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- 0:00Today on the podcast, we're going to have some random
- 0:03conversations about why sales is hard, why sales can be
- 0:08discouraging and what we can do about it.
- 0:12The reason why we are tackling this today is because I heard
- 0:16back from a former student of mine who didn't show up for a
- 0:22while. So I reached out to her just to
- 0:25find out, you know, what was what was going on.
- 0:27And, you know, she made a series of interesting admissions.
- 0:33Let me just put it that way. And we've been texting back and
- 0:35forth, you know, we've been having a chat.
- 0:37And it occurs to me that, you know, because lots of times that
- 0:42I make the podcast, you know, I'm upbeat and I'm cheerful.
- 0:47I guess sometimes I haven't given you guys a realistic set
- 0:51of expectations to have when it comes to growing your business
- 0:56because, well, yes, to grow your business you have to get good at
- 1:02sales. And the principles that we talk
- 1:05about over here are going to be very, very helpful for you to
- 1:09improve your businesses. But unfortunately, I don't think
- 1:12I've given some of you the right expectations to have or how will
- 1:18I put it? I haven't done a good job of
- 1:20letting you guys know how hard sales can be and how long it's
- 1:24going to take before you start getting business results.
- 1:28So what we're going to do, this is plenty Taco.
- 1:32So it's not something that we can do in one conversation.
- 1:35So this is going to be a three-part.
- 1:39We're going to break this up into three parts.
- 1:40So this is going to be Part 1 where we're having random
- 1:44conversations about sales, why it's hard, what we can do about
- 1:49it, how long it's going to take for you to start seeing
- 1:52prospects for business growth when you're trying to increase
- 1:56your sales. Now, this your first time
- 1:58listening to the podcast. My name is Tavishima Ayede, I'm
- 2:01a former lawyer turned business consultant.
- 2:04And this is what we do over here on the podcast every single day
- 2:07or every other day. We're talking about how to grow
- 2:10your business is how to increase your sales because it is my core
- 2:16thesis of that. Until you get this sales thing
- 2:20sorted, sales and marketing in your business, until you get it
- 2:23sorted, you have no prospects for business growth.
- 2:27Basically, sales covers a multitude of sins, or rather
- 2:31money covers a multitude of sins when it comes to business.
- 2:34So until we get this money right, until we get this
- 2:36lifeblood of the business going, it is only then we can start
- 2:40worrying about other concerns like management issues or tax
- 2:45issues or branding issues or financing issues or whatever.
- 2:50We need to get this money going first.
- 2:54So if you love these sorts of issues, then subscribe to the
- 2:58podcast on Spotify, YouTube, Apple, or any player of your
- 3:01choice. And if you'd love to connect
- 3:02with me, you can call, send me a text message or WhatsApp message
- 3:06on the 08064662140. Now for those of you who listen
- 3:13to the podcast regularly, today is a Saturday.
- 3:16So comes as no surprise I'm making today's recording out
- 3:19about. I'm in the parking lot, I'm in
- 3:20church because the kids are having catechism classes.
- 3:23So there's going to be some noise in the background.
- 3:25In fact, plenty of noise in the background.
- 3:27You know, the children receiving the instruction.
- 3:30And there seems to be a program going on in the church hall.
- 3:33So there's lots of noise here and there.
- 3:37But don't worry, I always do my best whether there is noise or
- 3:40whether we have absolute quiet. I do my best to make sure that I
- 3:44deliver value to you guys. Now Speaking of value, I have a
- 3:48set of trainings that are going to be coming up next year.
- 3:51They're going to start from the 12th of January 2026 and it is
- 3:57going to be a two week course, well, weekdays only.
- 3:59So that's more like 1010 sessions.
- 4:03And it is geared for people who work in Tele sales, business
- 4:08consultants, self-employed people, basically anybody who
- 4:12would love to grow their business or who has
- 4:15responsibility for growing their business.
- 4:18But by using the phone primarily, I repeat, this course
- 4:23that is coming out on the 12th of January in 2026 is aimed at
- 4:30people who want to grow their businesses by using the phone
- 4:34primarily, by using the phone as the main thing.
- 4:38Those are the people who the course is aimed at, who the
- 4:41course is targeted at. So if you're interested in the
- 4:45course, get in touch. I give my phone number at the
- 4:50beginning and at the end of every single episode.
- 4:52So like I said, phone number 08064662140.
- 4:59So reach out. I'd like to have a chat with
- 5:00you, figure out if you're interested in the course, why
- 5:04you're interested in the course, whether you'd be a good fit for
- 5:06the course. Because I'm not just going to
- 5:08let absolutely everybody in. And the reason why is this, one
- 5:13of my former clients is actually looking to recruit some people.
- 5:17So we're actually hoping that from the people who come to this
- 5:19class, we will be able to send some candidates his way so that
- 5:23he can consider them for a job. So it's not going to be
- 5:26absolutely everybody that I'm going to let in for this, for
- 5:32this course. So sorry.
- 5:35One moment, I'll say hello to someone.
- 5:39OK, sorry about that. Like I said, I'm in the parking
- 5:41lot, so someone came by. I had to say hello to someone.
- 5:43So yes. Yeah, the course for January
- 5:4712th, 2026, that is in a couple of weeks time because I'm
- 5:51currently making today's recording in December of 2025.
- 5:55So if you're interested, reach out, let's have a chat.
- 5:58Or by the way, I forgot to mention successful candidates.
- 6:03That's people who pass through the training and who if you're a
- 6:10personal substance, you go through the training.
- 6:13And I'm confident enough that if I hand you over to this client
- 6:17of mine, you won't form my hand because I don't want to send a
- 6:20batch of people to him. You know, maybe like 1015
- 6:22people. And then he talks to all of them
- 6:24and then says establishment, these people are rubbish.
- 6:26Like if you guys do that, like you will really, really form my
- 6:29hand. So that's the reason why I want
- 6:32to talk to you guys, you know, before we will start the
- 6:34training because yes, money is good but I can't collect money
- 6:37from you if at the end of the day, I can't send you to people
- 6:40and then beat my chest. And I say look, now one of my
- 6:43graduates be this like I actually trained this person.
- 6:46So now because my client is based in Lagos, I will be
- 6:53keeping an eye out primarily for people who are based in Lagos
- 6:58because he wants to grow his business using the phone.
- 7:04The candidates will be expected to be in the office every single
- 7:07day, Monday to Friday, from 9:00 AM until close, and they'll be
- 7:12expected to man the phone. So not only are we looking out
- 7:16for people who are based in Lagos, we are also looking out
- 7:19for people who live around the island.
- 7:23So you know, Lagos Island via Lakey, that whole place, because
- 7:28my client's office is in Osaka. I think they call it Osaka
- 7:31London, even though I've been very vocal on the podcast that
- 7:35you guys should stop saying Osaka, London because there's no
- 7:37such thing as Osaka London. There are only two Londons in
- 7:40the world. There is London, England, and
- 7:43then there is Adipo, London. And Adipo London is in my own
- 7:47state in Benway State. If you don't believe me, go and
- 7:50ask your parents. There are only two Londons in
- 7:53the world. There is London, England, and
- 7:55then there's Adipo, London. So this one that people are now
- 7:57saying Osaka London, I was like, where?
- 7:59Where did that one even come from?
- 8:01So my client is based on Osaka, London in Lagos.
- 8:07And so because of that we're looking for people who already
- 8:10live on the island or who are close to the island because this
- 8:13one is a non negotiable. We need people who 9:00 they are
- 8:17already calling, not that 9:00 they're entering the office, not
- 8:22that 9:00 they are signing in. It is like 9:00.
- 8:26You have already started dialing.
- 8:29So for those of you who are interested in the course, yeah,
- 8:32reach out. For those of you who are
- 8:34interested in your Employment Opportunity, please bear that in
- 8:38mind. You will be expected to be
- 8:42making phone calls by 9:00 AM sharp.
- 8:46Not that you entered the building at 9:00 AM, not that
- 8:49you're clearing your desk at 9:00 AM or you're booting your
- 8:53computer at 9:00 AM. Nine AM.
- 8:55You don't. They dial.
- 8:57Work has started. All right, Now, where was I?
- 9:02OK, yeah. Now back to the conversation
- 9:04about sales. So like I said, I was talking to
- 9:08one of my former students, and she had just sent me an apology
- 9:12because she skipped a couple of classes.
- 9:14And the reason why she skipped her classes?
- 9:16Oh, sorry. Somebody's driving out next to
- 9:18me. Like I said, I'm in a car lot,
- 9:21so there's going to be some noise.
- 9:24So she skipped a couple of classes.
- 9:26And the reason why she's kept a couple of classes was because
- 9:29she was discouraged. She currently has her own
- 9:33business where she's into branding design, you know, all
- 9:38those sorts of things. So she has a business that's
- 9:41already up and running. And the reason why she has been
- 9:45discouraged is because even though she has been finding our
- 9:48sessions to be very useful, and even though she has been finding
- 9:52the concepts easy to understand and should I say easy to apply,
- 9:59she has not been able to get the kind of results that she has
- 10:02been looking for. And what she told to me word for
- 10:07word is this. She said sales is hard.
- 10:12And then after that, she said sales is, and I quote her, God
- 10:15of mercy, that's what she said. And at that point, I just
- 10:20realized that poor girl, I'm the one who failed her because I
- 10:28tried to make these concepts easy.
- 10:30Because like I say, easy to understand means easy to do.
- 10:35And if it's easy to understand, easy to do, then we stand the
- 10:38chances that we'll start seeing results.
- 10:42But maybe, perhaps sometimes I oversimplify the process.
- 10:45So I just take it that, look, it's my fault.
- 10:49I didn't let her and her cohort, her classmates know that look,
- 10:53we're here. We're laughing, was smiling,
- 10:57we're having fun, we're catching vibes, but our sales is hard
- 11:01work and our sales is sales is God of mercy.
- 11:06So I should have told them. So if you are listening to this
- 11:10podcast for the first time, please just know it.
- 11:14In fact, for those of you who are thinking you're interested
- 11:16in the training that is coming up on the 12th of January in
- 11:202026, please have the right perspective that sales is hard.
- 11:25It's hard as hell, which is the reason why lots of people do not
- 11:29like doing it. People will go and be doing
- 11:33everything else under the sun except sails because it is hard.
- 11:38So know that it is hard. If you're interested in the job
- 11:43opportunity and the training that is coming up next year,
- 11:47January 12th, know that this will be a hard journey.
- 11:51It is not for the faint of heart and it is not for people who do
- 11:54not have discipline and who are not willing to work hard.
- 11:58You don't have discipline. You don't love hard work.
- 12:01This thing will not work. Go and join the marketing
- 12:05department or go and join the branding department where your
- 12:08job will be creating posts and writing articles.
- 12:13Go and join them. Don't enter sales.
- 12:17It's not for everybody. Sales is hard.
- 12:21However, everybody can sell. Hear me please.
- 12:26Everybody can sell. Even if you don't fancy yourself
- 12:29to be a hard worker, everybody can sell because all we have to
- 12:32do is just change one or two things, learn some skills and
- 12:37change one or two things and everybody can sell.
- 12:39It doesn't mean you'll be a superstar, but you will be able
- 12:42to sell. And that's the reason why when
- 12:44you look around and you see people who have built successful
- 12:46businesses, and please do not deceive yourself that there's
- 12:49anybody who has built a successful business who did not
- 12:53sell. If they didn't sell themselves,
- 12:55they got other people to sell on their behalf.
- 12:57Or just know that there is no successful business that you see
- 13:00around you that was not built on the back of sales and selling.
- 13:07So that's the reason why we see tall people, they can sell,
- 13:11short people they can sell, fine people they can sell.
- 13:15Ugly people they can sell. Christian they can sell.
- 13:19Muslim they can sell. Atheist they can sell.
- 13:22Everybody can sell. If we just learned a couple of
- 13:25things now, this is the right perspective to have.
- 13:28Please my brothers and sisters listening here, I know I joke a
- 13:31lot and I try and oversimplify. So for the next three episodes,
- 13:36this is Part 1. Let me try and give you guys the
- 13:39right perspective so that you will know what you're signing up
- 13:41for. For those of you who say you
- 13:43want to be entrepreneur, this is what you are signing up for.
- 13:48If by the time you listen to what I'm about to say Part 1,
- 13:50Part 2, Part 3 and you say on modest things sounds too hard.
- 13:54Exactly. That is the reason why there are
- 13:56lots of people who start this journey and then after a while
- 13:59they caught out and they go and look for a paid job.
- 14:03That is the reason why you meet your friend in January of 2026
- 14:07next year and they will say this is the year I've joined the
- 14:11hostel, the year of entrepreneurship.
- 14:14And then by the time you see them in April, so boy, how far I
- 14:16say, you know, man was tough. And so where are you now?
- 14:22Oh, I'm working for so, so, so, so that is precisely the reason
- 14:25why because your friend will try entrepreneurship in January of
- 14:282026 and to figure out that, man, this hard work, I can't, I
- 14:32can't cut it. I can't hack it.
- 14:36So this is the right perspective that we need to have when it
- 14:39comes to growing your business, increasing your sales, getting
- 14:44good at sales. Number one, you need to know
- 14:46that sales is hard. It's arduous.
- 14:49I've been stressing it for 15 minutes, not because I'm trying
- 14:52to scare you away. I just want you to know what
- 14:54we're signing up for from the beginning.
- 14:56So for those of you who reach out that you want to do this
- 14:59course January 12th, 2026, just know we are signing up for hard
- 15:04work, especially if you want to be one of those people that I
- 15:08present to my client who is based in Lagos.
- 15:12To say that this guy or this girl, good candidates consider
- 15:15them. So #1 sales is hard, sales is
- 15:18arduous #2 sales requires learning some skill and then
- 15:25requires behavior change. You have to change your behavior
- 15:29small to get good in sales small.
- 15:34I'm not one of those people who tell you to change your
- 15:36personality, that if you're too bubbly, you need to calm down,
- 15:39or if you're too calm, you need to become the life of the party.
- 15:43No, but you have to change some behavior small.
- 15:50Then whenever you try to implement something, we should
- 15:57always try and figure out why did this implementation fail?
- 16:03Why didn't we get the results that we want.
- 16:08So remember, please, this is the right perspective.
- 16:10Number one, know that sales and selling is hard #2 know that you
- 16:16have to change your behavior small.
- 16:18You have to learn one or two things then #3 when you try to
- 16:24implement and you don't get the results that you want, you have
- 16:28to get into the habit of sitting down and saying, why did this
- 16:31thing not work? So why is sales hard in the 1st
- 16:38place? The reason why sales is hard is
- 16:39because #1 the statistics are not in your favor.
- 16:44The stats are just not in your favor.
- 16:47You will always have low conversions.
- 16:49A conversion just means the person who is willing to take
- 16:52the next step. So back in the university day,
- 16:55you come in Jamba Rush. You know there's fresh blood on
- 16:58campus and you decide that this is the year that you're going to
- 17:01have a girlfriend. So you go and try toasting
- 17:03number of babes. You talk to 1, you talk to two,
- 17:08you talk to three. Each of them you try and collect
- 17:10phone number. If you talk to 10 babes, only
- 17:12two of them gave you phone number.
- 17:14Those two they gave you phone number that is a conversion, and
- 17:17your conversion rate is 2 / 10. Out of every single 10 babes you
- 17:21talk to, you can collect 2 phone numbers.
- 17:22That is 2 / 10. Now let's say you're a girl and
- 17:27you're trying to use a different strategy.
- 17:29You want somebody who is a lover of God, a disciple of Christ
- 17:34Jesus. So what you do is anybody that
- 17:35approaches you, you ask them, will you come to fellowship with
- 17:39me? And you will only agree to talk
- 17:41to the boys who decide to come to fellowship.
- 17:43So if 10 boys approach you and you say will you come to
- 17:46fellowship with me, at the end of the day, four boys show up in
- 17:49fellowship. That is a convention, somebody
- 17:52who was willing to take the next step, that is a conversion.
- 17:55And your conversion rate is 4 / 10 or 40%.
- 18:00By the way, if you ask 10 boys, will you come to fellowship with
- 18:03me? And then for sure or more.
- 18:05You are a star. Yeah, wife material, you're hot.
- 18:11So that is what a conversion is. But just know that the stats are
- 18:15not in your favor. Conversation, sorry, conversions
- 18:17will always be low in the examples that I gave.
- 18:20If you noticed, in fact, forget example in real life, there's no
- 18:25way that if 10 guys approaching and you say will you come to my
- 18:28fellowship, there's no way all ten of them will show up for
- 18:30fellowship. No way it doesn't happen.
- 18:32Then the same thing if you're a guy, there's no way that if you
- 18:34talk to 10 babes all time, we give you the phone number,
- 18:37statistically speaking, just not going to happen.
- 18:39So that's what we mean when we say the statistics are not in
- 18:41your favor. Now we have a similar dynamic
- 18:44when it comes to business and the way that Brian Tracy
- 18:47explains it is this. Not everybody you talk to is
- 18:50going to want what you have. Not everybody you talk to is
- 18:53going to need what you have or what you sell.
- 18:55Not everybody you talk to is going to be able to afford what
- 18:59it is that you have. And not everybody that you talk
- 19:02to is going to have a sense of urgency around your product or
- 19:05your service. So it's his memory recovering
- 19:09from a cold. So it was in this very parking
- 19:14lot last week. I'll be two weeks ago where I
- 19:16give the example of I think was what was it again the Tesla
- 19:22cyber truck. So if you sell expensive cars
- 19:25like the Tesla cyber truck, it is not everybody you talk to who
- 19:29wants the Tesla cyber truck. It's not everybody you talk to
- 19:32who feels like they need the truck.
- 19:34It's not everybody who you talk to who can afford the truck
- 19:38because that is a beast that costs 430 million naira.
- 19:42The last time I checked. That's for the model that I like
- 19:45purple colour core car, darker sweet dye.
- 19:48Although my wife said that the thing resemble Bangalow, that if
- 19:50I buy it, she won't drive in it. Well, for now is no quarrel,
- 19:54because I don't have 430 million, so down is just an
- 19:58intellectual quarrel between me and my wife.
- 20:00Me and the children, we said the car is sweet.
- 20:03My wife said the team resemble Bangalore.
- 20:06So not everybody can afford the Tesla cyber truck.
- 20:10And for those who have 430 million, excuse me, sometimes I
- 20:15feel as if and there's other things to do with money.
- 20:17Some people have the 430 million, but they want to
- 20:19invest. Or they have 430 million, but
- 20:22they want to maintain a side piece.
- 20:24Or they have 430 million and they think, you know what, let
- 20:28us give the money to church or whatever.
- 20:32But sure, not everybody has a sense of urgency around the
- 20:36Tesla cyber truck. So no matter what it is that you
- 20:39sell, the statistics are not in your favor because not everybody
- 20:46wants, not everybody needs, not everybody can afford to know.
- 20:49Everybody has a sense of urgency.
- 20:51If some of you are saying I'm being too dramatic and no
- 20:53problem, let's use another example.
- 20:55Consider pure water, cold water, especially now that the weather
- 20:59is hot. Not everybody wants your water.
- 21:04Not everybody needs your water. Shockingly, even for 10 year
- 21:11water, not everybody can afford that 10 year pure water.
- 21:16It's sad, but that's just the state of Niger.
- 21:19Sorry. It's not even 10 years of I
- 21:21think the last time I tried to buy, I think 1 was like, is it
- 21:2416 year? I'll be 100 and I can't even
- 21:25remember, but shall not everybody has that.
- 21:28So everybody can afford and then not everybody has a sense of
- 21:31urgency. Some people feel as if, well,
- 21:33you know what, I'm thirsty, but I'm really in the car and I'll
- 21:39be home in 30 minutes. You know, what's the worry?
- 21:43So you can see that whether Tesla, Cybertruck, or whether
- 21:46pure water, the statistics are not in your favor.
- 21:49So because of that, just know that you're up for an arduous
- 21:52journey. You will always have to make
- 21:54sure that you're doing your best to target people who want, who
- 21:58need, who can afford, and who have a sense of urgency.
- 22:03And it will always be hard work whether you sell Tesla cyber
- 22:06trucks or whether you sell pure water, whether you sell mobile
- 22:09phones or whether you're an architect or whether you're a
- 22:13business consultant or whether you run a medical laboratory or
- 22:16whatever it is that you do. The statistics, sorry, forgive
- 22:20me, cheer my mouth. The stats are not in your favor.
- 22:25You'll always be starting from a period of low conversions.
- 22:28So that is the reason why sales is hard work.
- 22:32Please don't get me wrong. Go.
- 22:34I'm not trying to chase any of you away.
- 22:37I'm not. I just don't want to be in this
- 22:39situation where I have a promising student in my class
- 22:42and then she disappears and then when she calls back, she says,
- 22:45ah, that sales is hard. I just want to make sure we're
- 22:48prepared and we have the right set of expectations going in.
- 22:53I don't want to give anybody false hopes that what I'm saying
- 22:55here is easy. I don't want anybody to believe
- 23:00that there's one or two magic phrases that will say I will
- 23:02triple our business overnight. I'm trying to be strict with you
- 23:05all. Yes, I like money.
- 23:10That money is good. And the more of you pay me, yes,
- 23:13I'll be happy. Well, I just want to set you up,
- 23:16set you up with the right expectations.
- 23:18I'm not going to lie to you and say that this thing is easy so I
- 23:20can collect as much money from you guys as possible.
- 23:23I won't do that. So I'm not trying to scare you
- 23:26away, I just want you to have all the information that you
- 23:29need before we engage, before we continue, because I don't want
- 23:33anybody to run away again that they were discouraged.
- 23:37I want also know the fights that we're signing up for right from
- 23:39the beginning. Then apart from the fact that
- 23:44sales is hard, and I've explained why sales is hard,
- 23:49part of the right perspective is, like I said, you have to
- 23:53change your behavior. Small, small behavior change.
- 23:56Now this is the behavior change that I want you to adopt.
- 23:59Your personality is OK. Leave it as it is.
- 24:03No matter what your personality is.
- 24:04You can sell, you talk too fast, you can sell, you talk too slow,
- 24:08you can sell, you don't talk at all.
- 24:10You can sell. It doesn't matter.
- 24:11So keep your behavior, But this is one small behavior that you
- 24:15have to change in order to get good at sales ad selling.
- 24:20We have to learn how to do things consistently over over
- 24:24time. That is all that we have to
- 24:26learn how to do. That is the only small change,
- 24:30the only small change we need to make.
- 24:32We just have to get into the habit of doing some things
- 24:34consistently. Like somebody asked me one time,
- 24:37the person said, Sir, no, Vex. But the first time I saw you, I
- 24:40was wondering to myself, is this guy on drugs?
- 24:43And I laughed because I understood what she was talking
- 24:45about. He says, Sir, how can you do it?
- 24:49At the time she was asking me, I think I had done about 800
- 24:52episodes of the podcast. You know, right now I've done
- 24:55over 1300 this. How do you do it?
- 25:00I say, well, I just have to do it every single day.
- 25:04Well, not every single day. I told her that the plan
- 25:07actually was for me to do it, you know, two or three times a
- 25:09week. But I know myself that I'm a
- 25:11lazy sobi, lazy die. So I knew that the only way this
- 25:15will work is if I just try and do it every day.
- 25:18Because if I try and do it every day, at least I know that two or
- 25:21three days I'll do it. But I'm not a very disciplined
- 25:23fellow. If I say our podcast Monday,
- 25:25Wednesday and Friday, what will happen is I'll miss one Monday
- 25:29and before you know it, I'll wake up and then it's Thursday
- 25:31and then something else has come up on Friday.
- 25:33And that's how you know it. One week don't pass.
- 25:36I've missed my recording deadlines, so I try to record
- 25:39every single day and that's how I've done it.
- 25:42So to grow your sales, the only behavior change I'm asking of
- 25:47you, small behavior change. When we figure out the thing
- 25:51that we need to do to increase our sales or to grow our
- 25:53business, just get in the habit of doing it consistently over
- 25:57time. That's all.
- 26:00So for those of you who are going to join me in the training
- 26:05on the 12th of January in 2026, the only habit I'm asking of you
- 26:11is 9:00. Be at your desk.
- 26:13That's all. Be at your desk with your
- 26:17headset. You have your list.
- 26:19You're ready to make your calls. That's all.
- 26:22I'm not asking you to finish the day.
- 26:25The thing is, even if you start at 9:00 and then by one you're
- 26:28tired, and you say I'm not the only person who killed Jesus,
- 26:32and then you say I'm done for today.
- 26:34You'll be the best. You'll be better than the person
- 26:36who is not doing anything at all.
- 26:41Behavior change, small discipline is not easy.
- 26:45Believe me, I'm telling you, it's not easy.
- 26:49I record podcast episodes, I make calls, I take meetings.
- 26:53It is not easy. I'm the laziest person on this
- 26:56planet. But how for do I have to move my
- 27:05ministry? So therefore, I guess make some
- 27:08changes, small change. That's all I'm asking of you.
- 27:13You just need to learn how to do some things consistently over
- 27:16time, no matter what The thing is.
- 27:19So if it is sending emails, we need to figure out how you can
- 27:23be sending your emails consistently.
- 27:26If we decide that your cadence is Monday, Wednesday, Friday,
- 27:29that's all we need to do. Monday, 9:00 have we sent our
- 27:33e-mail? Wednesday 9:00 have we sent our
- 27:35emails. Friday 9:00 Have we sent our
- 27:38emails if his phone calls 9:00 have we started if it is
- 27:42visiting meetings, have we scheduled the meeting for Monday
- 27:459:00? Wednesday 9:00, Friday 9:00?
- 27:50We need to figure out what it is we have to do and then we have
- 27:53to learn how to do those things consistently over time.
- 27:56That is the small behavior change I'm asking of you.
- 28:00Your personality is fine, don't change it.
- 28:04Your accent is fine, don't change it.
- 28:05Too many people come to me and they're worked up about their
- 28:07accent. It is fine.
- 28:09There was one training that I was doing.
- 28:11We decided to role play and then one girl was like she said may
- 28:14we know you And then people, you know, they begin, they laugh.
- 28:17I was like, why are you guys laughing?
- 28:20Like laughing for what? Now, Nigel, we do.
- 28:23Now we're in Nigeria. There are some people who talk
- 28:25like that. There's some people who talk
- 28:26like that. May we know you?
- 28:28If you are a may we know you girl or you are a may we know
- 28:31you guy, it is OK If you're if you're the kind of guy who says
- 28:37may we know you and you start trying to form fun, you would
- 28:39disgrace yourself. So if that's how you grew up,
- 28:43may we know you go in there and may we know you, it's OK.
- 28:48People know who they're dealing with immediately from the
- 28:50beginning, like it's you authentically.
- 28:52You know they form don't form. Your accent is fine.
- 28:59Your personality is fine. There are some of you that need
- 29:04to change your personal hygiene. You understand some of you guys
- 29:07use perfume and bath well before you go out, but outside of that
- 29:11you are fine. The only behavior change I'm
- 29:14asking of you is we need to figure out what it is that you
- 29:16need to do in your in your situation.
- 29:18Then we need to come up with a plan for how we're going to do
- 29:20this thing consistently over time.
- 29:22That is it. And please, another thing I
- 29:28forgot to mention, when the sales is not coming in, when
- 29:32things are not moving, when you're feeling discouraged,
- 29:34please know there is nothing personal.
- 29:36Ain't nothing personal at all. You can see that the stats are
- 29:40not in your favour. It's nothing personal.
- 29:46You can see that we have to do some small behavior change.
- 29:50So it's no fault of yours. If you've not been doing the
- 29:55right amount of work for the right amount of time, the
- 29:58results will. The results won't come in Bosha.
- 30:05Stop taking it personal when you don't see results.
- 30:08Don't fall into your funk. Don't ask yourself what is wrong
- 30:11with me. Don't ask yourself what is the
- 30:14problem with me. Don't ask yourself will I ever
- 30:18make it. It ain't personal.
- 30:23Don't worry, we're here, we'll figure it out.
- 30:28So #1 sales is hard. It starts out on your favor.
- 30:33So we need to make sure that we're targeting people, the
- 30:35right kind of people #2 we need some small behavior change.
- 30:40Keep the rest of yourself the way you are.
- 30:42You like bright clothes is not a problem if you dress like a
- 30:45Ghanaian school teacher, just like me.
- 30:48It's not a problem for those of you who are Ghanaian school, the
- 30:50school teachers or you're the child of a Ghanaian school
- 30:52teacher. I beg no vets.
- 30:55One day my wife was abusing me and that's that's how she
- 30:57described my fashion sense. And when she said everybody
- 31:00begin to laugh and my mom. So I was like, yeah, that
- 31:02actually is true that you do dress like a Canadian school
- 31:04teacher. But what I'm trying to say is
- 31:08you have fashion sense is OK. You don't have fashion sense is
- 31:11OK. It's all good.
- 31:13We just need small behavior change.
- 31:18Now the final thing that I want us to know, remember this is a
- 31:22three-part series. After this, I'll move on to Part
- 31:242 because I don't want to make this an episode that is going to
- 31:27last one hour, 30 minutes. Let me break it up into small
- 31:30chunks. Now, the final thing that we
- 31:32need to know is that when we try to implement and the thing
- 31:38fails, we don't get the right results.
- 31:40We need to get into the habit of asking ourselves, why did this
- 31:45thing fail? Now the first thing that we need
- 31:48to look at is did we use the proper technique?
- 31:53And then the second question we need to ask ourselves is did we
- 31:56make a sufficient number of attempts?
- 31:59Did we try enough? So those are two big questions.
- 32:02Did we use right technique and did we try enough?
- 32:06Because remember in the beginning I spoke about
- 32:09conversions and that because the stats are not in our favor, your
- 32:14conversions will always be low. Everybody starts with low
- 32:19conversions. Everybody does because it
- 32:23doesn't matter whether you're growing your business or looking
- 32:25for husband or looking for wife or trying to sell a cow or
- 32:28trying to sell bread or whatever, your conversions will
- 32:31always be low. There's no situation where you
- 32:32talk to 10 people and 10 people are interested in you or what
- 32:36you have. It just does not happen except
- 32:39if you know all those, you know, those of you based in Lagos, you
- 32:42know those guys now you know like Down or Bannon Day when I
- 32:46was in school as you see, you should see those advertisements,
- 32:49you know those places, you know Guru Maharaji Guru these Guru
- 32:52that yeah, don't go and give you 1 ring, you use the ring and
- 32:56touch your mouth and then when you go out and you open your
- 32:59mouth, whatever you say, people just follow you.
- 33:01So except if you know people who have that kind of jazz, there is
- 33:03no way you would talk to 10 people and 10 people are
- 33:06interested in what you have or interested in you or what you
- 33:09sell. And by the way, please don't
- 33:11mess with that kind of stuff. It is just money that we are
- 33:14looking for while you go and start courting all kinds of
- 33:18spiritual forces, playing with demons because you want to make
- 33:20money. Is it worth it?
- 33:24So if you saw any of those places today, please do not go
- 33:27there. Don't call that phone number.
- 33:31Don't go and meet that person and ask for that ring, Ask for
- 33:34that powder, ask for that jazz or whatever it is.
- 33:38For what? For business success.
- 33:39Then you sell your soul. Life is hard, but please don't
- 33:44call those phone numbers. I beg.
- 33:47Anyway, I was like, so two things.
- 33:50Did you do the right technique and then did you have a
- 33:52sufficient number of attempts? Did you talk to enough people?
- 33:58Because some of you say sales is hard, you say business is hard.
- 34:01By the time you ask some questions, you see that the
- 34:02person has not done enough. Let me use one example.
- 34:06There was a time in my life when I was very angry, very, very
- 34:10angry. I said, tarish my way, the vex.
- 34:13I said because I want to do MBA, MBA, that's a master's in
- 34:17business administration. I want to do MBA Business
- 34:19School. They know they take me, they're
- 34:21not accepting my application. I was very, very angry.
- 34:24So one day one of my friends asked me which school did you
- 34:27apply to? And so I told him, I said I was
- 34:31considering London School of Economics.
- 34:34That's LSE said, did you apply? My mind, I was now thinking shy
- 34:40because actually I was considering LSE London School of
- 34:42Economics binding apply then you know, and I say I was also
- 34:49thinking about Harvard. Did you apply?
- 34:52I say, no, I didn't, I didn't meet the criteria.
- 34:54So I didn't bother applying. So OK, so no problem.
- 34:58And then and I was OK. Which school did you apply to?
- 35:01I So I applied to University of Aberdeen for the MBA but they
- 35:05told me that I didn't have enough work experience that's
- 35:08why I was angry. By the time my guy asked me some
- 35:12questions, I realized one thing. I was angry that Business School
- 35:15is not is not taking me. Meanwhile I only looked at 5
- 35:18schools and I only made one application.
- 35:22So if you are laughing at me now.
- 35:23But here is the truth. I was angry that schools are not
- 35:26accepting me. Meanwhile I only considered 5
- 35:30schools and I only made one application.
- 35:33Then I was getting angry, like why was I getting angry?
- 35:42I didn't want it enough. For people who want to get into
- 35:45business schools. I mean, they definitely consider
- 35:48more than five and they definitely send in more than one
- 35:51application. Remember, the stats are not in
- 35:54your favor. The conversions will always be
- 35:56low. So proper technique and
- 36:03sufficient number of attempts, the applications that I made,
- 36:07the application I made to University of Aberdeen, was it a
- 36:09good quality application? Now I was telling myself that's
- 36:12one question. Then let's assume that the
- 36:15quality of my application was good.
- 36:17Did I send it to enough schools? So it doesn't matter what it is.
- 36:23Are you using the right technique and did you try enough
- 36:26times? Sometimes some of you say sales
- 36:29is hard but you've not tried enough.
- 36:32There's some people who come, they say they're struggling.
- 36:362025 was a struggle. OK, let's sit down.
- 36:38Let's look at your trading history.
- 36:40Let's look at number of people that I spoke to, blah, blah,
- 36:42blah. And there are some people that
- 36:44in December of 2025, they only spoke to 10 prospects.
- 36:50I repeat, there are some people that in all of 2025, they're
- 36:54complaining that business is hard.
- 36:56You only spoke to 10 people. How would business be hard even
- 37:01if your conversations were correct?
- 37:02Conversations how? Like how you make progress in a
- 37:07whole year talking to only 10 people.
- 37:10The person who is having 10 business conversations in a
- 37:13month is putting himself was putting herself in a better
- 37:17position. Remember 10 conversations a
- 37:19month means at the end of the year, that's how much that's
- 37:2312120. That means at the end of the
- 37:26year, the person has spoken to 120 people.
- 37:29The probability, the odds are more in your favor if you talk
- 37:32to 120 people than if you talk to only 10.
- 37:37So some of you shouting sales is hard.
- 37:40Your technique, you might be doing the right things and your
- 37:42technique might be on point, but you haven't had a significant
- 37:45enough number of attempts. Now, these are more things that
- 37:50we're going to talk about in future episodes.
- 37:52So let me not go into that here. Excuse me, Boscha, remember what
- 37:59I said. I'm not trying to chase any of
- 38:02you away. I'm not trying to discourage you
- 38:04people. I just want you to know that for
- 38:06those of us who I said will be good in business, we've signed
- 38:08up for hard work. Or for those of us who are going
- 38:11to be career salespeople who want to sell on behalf of
- 38:13somebody else, we have signed up for hard work.
- 38:16Excuse me now, the reason why it is hard is because the stats are
- 38:19not in our favor. Conversions will always be low
- 38:22when we begin, so we need to do some small behavior change.
- 38:26We need to figure out what it is that we need to do that will
- 38:29move the results. Then we need to do those things
- 38:31consistently over time. That is where we will get the
- 38:37best results. Then realize that it's nothing
- 38:40personal. So your personality is fine,
- 38:42Your accent is fine if you your background is fine.
- 38:45If you come from a poor background, it's OK.
- 38:47You come from a rich background. It's OK.
- 38:50Your looks are OK. If you're ugly, it's all right.
- 38:52If you're pretty, it's all right.
- 38:54Doesn't matter. Then we also need to make sure
- 39:01that we ask ourselves some questions when we don't see
- 39:03results. Am I using the right technique?
- 39:06Did I talk to enough people? Then we can start figuring out
- 39:10where the problem is. It is harder to do this when
- 39:14you're doing it alone. So try and talk to somebody
- 39:17else. If there is that senior
- 39:18colleague that you respect, it's OK to call the colleague up to
- 39:22say broccoli, I beg, while I did say what's happening, so guy,
- 39:29this is my life. I don't know what's happening.
- 39:32Bosha, let me just pick your brain.
- 39:35Since I entered this real estate hustle, like I'm not seeing
- 39:39progress. Going front, I don't know, going
- 39:41backward, I don't know, am I stagnant?
- 39:43I don't know. So Broccoli, I beg, let me come
- 39:45and see you in the office on Friday, Quasi.
- 39:48Now, Brockie Lichi. And these are the conversations
- 39:51you're going to have, the techniques you're using, the
- 39:54strategies you're using are using the right things.
- 39:57You guys can have a conversation.
- 39:58He will help you try and figure it out.
- 40:02Then also have the frank conversation with him because
- 40:05I'm sure Brock Lichi will ask you.
- 40:07OK, how many people did you talk to?
- 40:08Be honest, You Brock Lichi. Even the last month you only
- 40:12spoke to two people. Be honest with him.
- 40:14Be honest with him. I know will make you look bad
- 40:19because it has happened to me before because I felt like I
- 40:21need you when my friend was asking me questions and then it
- 40:23became clear that I say I want to do MBA Master's in Business
- 40:27Administration. It became clear.
- 40:29I only considered 5 schools in one year and only sent one
- 40:32application in one year. And I was getting angry.
- 40:35What was I getting angry for? So I feel like you're fool so I
- 40:38understand, don't worry. But at least your eyes will be
- 40:40open and you now know what the next step is supposed to be.
- 40:46Why? So let me end it here and
- 40:48remember, for those of you who are interested, the training
- 40:52January 12th, 2026. It is aimed at anybody who wants
- 40:57to grow their business by using the phone primarily.
- 41:02So if you're in Tele sales, this would be a good training for
- 41:04you. If you're an intrapreneur, it's
- 41:07a good training for you. Your honest actual consultancy
- 41:12business is a good training for you.
- 41:16But also remember that in this training, I'm looking out for a
- 41:19set of candidates that I can show to my client who is based
- 41:23in Lagos to say that these people are vetted them take a
- 41:29look at these people. You can build your next sales
- 41:31team from here. So because of that, I'll be
- 41:36taking anybody for the training, whether you're based in
- 41:39Maiduguri or Abuja. But for the job placement, it
- 41:42would only be people who are based in Lagos.
- 41:44Please do not lie about where you're based because you'll be
- 41:48required to be in the office. Monday 9:00, you're already
- 41:53dialing. In other words, signing in will
- 41:58be like around like 830 sign in, sit down, get your headset Jihsu
- 42:04people eat Gala boot your computer so that 9:00 sharp
- 42:09you're calling. So for the job opportunity is
- 42:14only those people who live on the island you live in VI live
- 42:19in Leckie. My client is based on South by
- 42:22London. You're based around those
- 42:23places. Yeah, cool.
- 42:24Those be the candidates that are be handing over to him at the
- 42:26end of the day. So if you're interested in the
- 42:30opportunity or you just want to connect with me, it's not a
- 42:34problem. You can call, send me a text
- 42:36message, send me a WhatsApp message on 08064662140.
- 42:44So thank you very much for your time and attention.
- 42:45I'll catch you all some other time.