Latest / Lama Lena Teachings / [7/25] The Flight of the Garuda — Session 5 (Oct 2020)
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- 0:02SPEAKER_01: There was one group where every year they couldn't tell me what they'd already learned in it.
- 0:08SPEAKER_01: And I was doing it year by year.
- 0:10SPEAKER_01: And I would have to go back to the beginning every year, which we did for about, oh, four years.
- 0:20SPEAKER_01: Every time I came there, I was supposed to be teaching a continuing flight of the Garuda.
- 0:25SPEAKER_01: And every time I came,
- 0:26SPEAKER_01: nobody could remember where we were or even what topics we'd already covered.
- 0:33SPEAKER_01: So under those circumstances,
- 0:35SPEAKER_01: we kept going back to the beginning
- 0:39SPEAKER_01: and eventually started teaching something else there
- 0:41SPEAKER_01: because it was obviously not going in.
- 0:49SPEAKER_00: The consensus is either chapter seven.
- 0:55SPEAKER_01: Some people think it's seven.
- 0:57SPEAKER_01: You said either.
- 1:00SPEAKER_00: One vote for six.
- 1:01SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 1:02SPEAKER_01: We're in there somewhere.
- 1:05SPEAKER_01: That makes perfect sense.
- 1:09SPEAKER_01: It's probably on the end of six and getting towards seven.
- 1:35SPEAKER_02: Chukku kunduzongbo gombo yi,
- 1:40SPEAKER_02: Durji senpagyarab durji dang,
- 1:45SPEAKER_02: Shere senge baidu shin lepti,
- 1:48SPEAKER_02: Dei dhamma zantata tu seng chi,
- 1:53SPEAKER_02: Zogchen jupay lamala sol awade.
- 2:02SPEAKER_02: Ugyen Pema Junila Sol Va De.
- 2:13SPEAKER_02: Noor Je Chan Chitalo Narodham,
- 2:19SPEAKER_02: Marpa Milagompo Tatapa, Na Pupadham Palden Drupasut, Kargyu Lama Nam La Sol Vah Dev.
- 2:39SPEAKER_02: Ochen Lama Nam La Sol Vah Dev.
- 2:52SPEAKER_02: Ochen Lama Nam La Sol Vah Dev.
- 3:02SPEAKER_02: Satsang, Lama Namla, Sulu, Vahadev.
- 3:11SPEAKER_02: Satsang, Lama Namla, Sulu, Vahadev.
- 3:26SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna need glasses.
- 3:58SPEAKER_01: Not usually for this text, but yours are fuzzy.
- 4:21SPEAKER_01: So chapter six, we've been talking a great deal about Things you can call mind.
- 4:36SPEAKER_01: When at rest, the mind is ordinary perception, naked and unadorned.
- 4:45SPEAKER_01: When you gaze directly at it, there is nothing to see.
- 4:53SPEAKER_01: And yet it illuminates itself as all things.
- 4:59SPEAKER_01: Total presence.
- 5:02SPEAKER_01: It is the brilliance and relaxed vigilance of the awakened state.
- 5:09SPEAKER_01: Vigilance is not quite the right word there.
- 5:17SPEAKER_01: Effortless vigilance.
- 5:21SPEAKER_01: Of the awakened state as nothing specific for whatsoever.
- 5:27SPEAKER_01: A secret fullness.
- 5:30SPEAKER_01: The fullness of absolute emptiness.
- 5:38SPEAKER_01: Non-dual radiance and emptiness.
- 5:44SPEAKER_01: We're talking about mind here.
- 5:49SPEAKER_01: Transcend the words used to communicate understanding
- 5:56SPEAKER_01: and see what is actually meant.
- 6:00SPEAKER_01: Look at your own mind.
- 6:04SPEAKER_01: You have
- 6:07SPEAKER_01: access to infinite eternity in the here and now.
- 6:15SPEAKER_01: Instead of doing your usual
- 6:20SPEAKER_01: Obsessive-compulsive focus on stuff,
- 6:24SPEAKER_01: things that move, phenomena which are impermanent.
- 6:29SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you do that.
- 6:31SPEAKER_01: You've been doing that for eons.
- 6:35SPEAKER_01: This morning, before we started, what did you focus your attention on?
- 6:43SPEAKER_01: Your coffee?
- 6:45SPEAKER_01: Stuff?
- 6:47SPEAKER_01: How you felt?
- 6:48SPEAKER_01: What you thought about what you felt, what you thought might make you feel better or worse.
- 6:56SPEAKER_01: Is it not so?
- 6:59SPEAKER_01: Phenomena,
- 7:00SPEAKER_01: thoughts,
- 7:01SPEAKER_01: feelings,
- 7:02SPEAKER_01: perceptions,
- 7:04SPEAKER_01: the stimulus of the sense organs,
- 7:08SPEAKER_01: the story you tell yourself about those sensations,
- 7:12SPEAKER_01: what they mean, what they are, what causes them.
- 7:16SPEAKER_01: And the feelings you have about the story you tell yourself about the sensations of
- 7:22SPEAKER_01: the sense organs.
- 7:24SPEAKER_01: And you do this when you're awake and when you're asleep.
- 7:32SPEAKER_01: Instead of noticing the
- 7:36SPEAKER_01: experiencer mind itself,
- 7:42SPEAKER_01: You separate the experience from the experiencer.
- 7:48SPEAKER_01: And as
- 7:51SPEAKER_01: limited
- 7:54SPEAKER_01: personality of experiencer,
- 8:00SPEAKER_01: you perceive phenomena as an experience which reifies that personality
- 8:08SPEAKER_01: with all its neuroses.
- 8:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what we do all day.
- 8:15SPEAKER_01: Talk to ourself and have feelings about what we tell ourselves.
- 8:20SPEAKER_01: Thoughts.
- 8:21SPEAKER_01: Feelings.
- 8:24SPEAKER_01: And we narrow point focus our attention on that.
- 8:30SPEAKER_00: Don't we?
- 8:32SPEAKER_01: Look at your own experience.
- 8:34SPEAKER_01: Don't just take my word for this.
- 8:36SPEAKER_01: You're buying gold in Banaras.
- 8:40SPEAKER_01: Look at your own experience.
- 8:43SPEAKER_01: Is this so?
- 8:48SPEAKER_01: And if you find it to be
- 8:54SPEAKER_01: so, consider what it costs you in suffering.
- 9:02SPEAKER_01: All those things you focus on that you don't like,
- 9:13SPEAKER_01: Old age, sickness, poverty, death,
- 9:22SPEAKER_01: gaining weight.
- 9:25SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that stuff, it's after you.
- 9:32SPEAKER_01: It's coming towards you.
- 9:35SPEAKER_01: It'll get you.
- 9:37SPEAKER_01: And all those things you like,
- 9:43SPEAKER_01: Coffee.
- 9:46SPEAKER_01: The couch.
- 9:48SPEAKER_01: A good book.
- 9:52SPEAKER_01: Mac and cheese.
- 9:55SPEAKER_01: Chocolate.
- 9:59SPEAKER_01: It goes away.
- 10:01SPEAKER_00: You have to get up off the couch.
- 10:08SPEAKER_01: Coffee cup goes empty.
- 10:12SPEAKER_01: Lunch is done.
- 10:17SPEAKER_01: The beautiful sunny weather gets cold.
- 10:27SPEAKER_01: You can't keep it.
- 10:30SPEAKER_01: And you can't escape it.
- 10:34SPEAKER_01: This is the suffering of Samsara.
- 10:39SPEAKER_01: And yet,
- 10:45SPEAKER_01: It is made such a suffering by the limitations you impose upon it, not by its own nature.
- 10:58SPEAKER_01: To release yourself from those habitual limitations caused
- 11:06SPEAKER_01: by the oops of point focus.
- 11:12SPEAKER_01: By the oops of duality which separates the experience from the experiencer
- 11:19SPEAKER_01: and causes one to limit oneself to a limited singular aspect
- 11:26SPEAKER_01: of experiencer having specific limited only this but not that experiences
- 11:35SPEAKER_01: and liking them and not liking them and chasing the ones you like and running away
- 11:39SPEAKER_01: from the ones you don't like.
- 11:44SPEAKER_01: Let go of that duality.
- 11:52SPEAKER_01: Can't find the muscle to make it let go?
- 11:55SPEAKER_01: We got some tricks.
- 11:58SPEAKER_01: When your channels are in alignment,
- 12:01SPEAKER_01: your back is straight,
- 12:04SPEAKER_01: your feet flat on the floor if you're sitting in a chair,
- 12:08SPEAKER_01: cross-legged properly if you're sitting on a cushion,
- 12:14SPEAKER_01: Your hands in the position in your lap appropriate to your choice of chair or cushion.
- 12:23SPEAKER_01: Your back with whatever support your personal back needs in order to remain in proper alignment.
- 12:33SPEAKER_01: The hand positions help with this.
- 12:40SPEAKER_01: Your eyes.
- 12:45SPEAKER_01: Following the line of your nose outward and down.
- 12:53SPEAKER_01: Falling where they do naturally.
- 12:58SPEAKER_01: Since your attention tends to follow, your eyeballs stop looking at stuff.
- 13:12SPEAKER_01: Let the focus,
- 13:13SPEAKER_01: the muscles that focus the lens of your eyes relax so that the focus
- 13:22SPEAKER_01: of your gaze opens up
- 13:27SPEAKER_01: and peripheral and central vision are equalized.
- 13:43SPEAKER_01: With your gaze open.
- 13:48SPEAKER_01: Not looking at anything.
- 13:54SPEAKER_01: Shift your attention
- 13:59SPEAKER_01: within your mind
- 14:03SPEAKER_01: from what you are thinking, feeling,
- 14:13SPEAKER_01: To where those thoughts and feelings are arising and dissolving.
- 14:26SPEAKER_01: This is mind-mind looking.
- 14:32SPEAKER_01: It is a relaxed gaze.
- 14:37SPEAKER_01: You release your attention from paying attention to what you think.
- 14:43SPEAKER_01: You are doing.
- 14:46SPEAKER_01: Feel you are doing.
- 14:50SPEAKER_01: Perceive you are doing.
- 14:54SPEAKER_01: And without paying any attention to whatever thoughts,
- 14:58SPEAKER_01: feelings and perceptions may or may not arise and dissolve.
- 15:07SPEAKER_01: You allow, not force, allow.
- 15:12SPEAKER_01: Your attention
- 15:16SPEAKER_01: to relax
- 15:24SPEAKER_01: into the ground of mind itself.
- 15:36SPEAKER_01: Indescribable and yet as humans we point with words.
- 15:45SPEAKER_01: Infinite open awareness.
- 15:49SPEAKER_01: Vast expanse.
- 15:53SPEAKER_01: Natural mind.
- 15:56SPEAKER_01: Not any of these.
- 16:01SPEAKER_01: When, as you have seen me do many times,
- 16:05SPEAKER_01: my finger points at a bell, my finger will never ring no matter how much I shake it.
- 16:14SPEAKER_01: No matter how much I pointed a bell.
- 16:18SPEAKER_01: And so these words given to describe nature of mind, mind itself, mind, mind looking.
- 16:33SPEAKER_01: They are not that.
- 16:35SPEAKER_01: They simply point.
- 16:40SPEAKER_01: Look past the end of the finger.
- 16:50SPEAKER_01: As
- 16:55SPEAKER_01: you relax
- 17:00SPEAKER_01: into this open awareness, the ground of mind itself, George.
- 17:12SPEAKER_01: Do not look at it.
- 17:19SPEAKER_01: Be it.
- 17:22SPEAKER_01: You are this.
- 17:42SPEAKER_01: Easy.
- 17:46SPEAKER_01: Relaxed.
- 17:50SPEAKER_01: Unconstructed.
- 18:05SPEAKER_01: This mind itself being the source of all phenomena of your thoughts,
- 18:13SPEAKER_01: feelings, and perceptions which arise in mind and dissolve in mind.
- 18:25SPEAKER_01: Allow mind.
- 18:36SPEAKER_01: Your habit
- 18:39SPEAKER_01: of fighting away this awareness by continuously grasping things
- 18:47SPEAKER_01: to focus your attention on.
- 19:01SPEAKER_01: This awareness is what focuses its attention or does not focus its attention.
- 19:10SPEAKER_01: There is no difference between whether it focuses or doesn't focus,
- 19:16SPEAKER_01: for there is neither anything other than this to be focused on or not focused on.
- 19:26SPEAKER_00: So you can have a giggle
- 19:30SPEAKER_01: and relax into what is.
- 19:40SPEAKER_01: It's not eternal,
- 19:43SPEAKER_01: for there is nothing whatsoever about it that can be proved to exist in any way.
- 19:55SPEAKER_01: Is, isn't, isn't, aren't.
- 20:00SPEAKER_01: It is not a simple void, a simple emptiness, a vacuum.
- 20:08SPEAKER_01: For there is brilliance and awakeness to it.
- 20:16SPEAKER_01: What we call the clear light nature
- 20:22SPEAKER_01: of the Infinite open awareness.
- 20:29SPEAKER_01: We use the words clear light.
- 20:33SPEAKER_01: See between my hands.
- 20:38SPEAKER_01: Do you see what is between my hands?
- 20:43SPEAKER_01: You don't.
- 20:43SPEAKER_01: You don't see anything there.
- 20:46SPEAKER_01: But anything I place in that place is visible to you.
- 20:55SPEAKER_01: Clear, transparent light between my hands.
- 20:59SPEAKER_01: We choose this word to express the innate, awake vitality of infinite, empty, open awareness.
- 21:15SPEAKER_01: We choose this word because it is by light that the seer sees
- 21:26SPEAKER_01: The word for seer in Tibetan is Rigpa.
- 21:33SPEAKER_01: Awareness is the seer, the one that's looking out from behind your own eyes.
- 21:40SPEAKER_01: That's your awareness, yeah?
- 21:43SPEAKER_01: So, if you will notice,
- 21:48SPEAKER_01: by what does the seer see by light?
- 21:55SPEAKER_01: What is it that allows the awareness to be aware?
- 22:01SPEAKER_01: We have no word for that.
- 22:06SPEAKER_01: We call it clear light.
- 22:10SPEAKER_01: We do not mean some kind of woo-woo bright light that goes wah-wah-wah
- 22:18SPEAKER_01: and dilates your eyes like I do on an acid trip.
- 22:22SPEAKER_01: Just because clear light is also a brand of LSD from our childhood does not mean
- 22:30SPEAKER_01: that what you see when you take that stuff is what we mean by clear light
- 22:35SPEAKER_01: in Tibetan.
- 22:37SPEAKER_01: Words get the damnedest associations.
- 22:42SPEAKER_01: So when people are trying to meditate and they start seeing lights,
- 22:45SPEAKER_01: they think maybe they see clear light.
- 22:50SPEAKER_01: You don't see clear light Your aliveness is what is meant by clear light.
- 23:02SPEAKER_01: As a word that points, the pointer is not the thing.
- 23:14SPEAKER_01: I'm not going to point at a bell again.
- 23:16SPEAKER_01: I've done that too often for y'all.
- 23:27SPEAKER_01: There is no existence to it, so it cannot be said.
- 23:32SPEAKER_01: It is real or eternal.
- 23:34SPEAKER_01: You can't really say anything about it and tell the truth.
- 23:41SPEAKER_01: My words are just fingers.
- 23:45SPEAKER_01: Don't stare at my fingers.
- 23:47SPEAKER_01: Go look where they're pointing.
- 23:59SPEAKER_01: It is not a unity, not a singularity, not one.
- 24:06SPEAKER_01: For the multiplicity of phenomena is self-evident in perception.
- 24:14SPEAKER_01: So if you think you have had a wonderful realization that we are all one and
- 24:21SPEAKER_01: that it's really like it, like that, the way you think it is.
- 24:28SPEAKER_02: Oops.
- 24:31SPEAKER_01: Very close, but not the banana.
- 24:40SPEAKER_01: It is not a multiplicity for we know the one taste of unity.
- 24:48SPEAKER_01: It is not an external function for presence is intrinsic to immediate reality.
- 25:05SPEAKER_01: Does a tree fall in the forest when no one hears the sound?
- 25:11SPEAKER_01: We'll never know since the forest is full of critters who hear.
- 25:26SPEAKER_01: Life is so all-pervading everywhere on Earth from the microcosmic
- 25:36SPEAKER_01: Microbes that live in the soil and the water.
- 25:42SPEAKER_01: To the vast beings that ride the magnetic lines between the stars.
- 25:55SPEAKER_01: Life.
- 25:59SPEAKER_01: Of one kind or another.
- 26:01SPEAKER_01: Awareness, awakeness.
- 26:04SPEAKER_01: Mind.
- 26:06SPEAKER_01: Clear light is everywhere.
- 26:16SPEAKER_01: Have you not noticed this?
- 26:21SPEAKER_01: Galaxies, stars, local groups of galaxies, nebulas,
- 26:29SPEAKER_01: clumps of light
- 26:34SPEAKER_01: and matter,
- 26:38SPEAKER_01: Places
- 26:40SPEAKER_01: where occurrences occur
- 26:45SPEAKER_01: and yet in between them in the emptiness
- 26:48SPEAKER_01: of outer space
- 26:55SPEAKER_01: it appears dark until something enters into it and when something is
- 26:59SPEAKER_01: in it you can see the something.
- 27:03SPEAKER_01: For the light pervades it, the light of the stars of the galaxies of the nebulous.
- 27:09SPEAKER_01: The energies, clear light,
- 27:15SPEAKER_01: as far as your imagination extends, your mind extends.
- 27:21SPEAKER_01: Do not limit it by obsessing with your laundry, your family, your supper, your stuff.
- 27:32SPEAKER_00: Open it up.
- 27:36SPEAKER_01: Wide.
- 27:42SPEAKER_01: Wide-er.
- 27:48SPEAKER_01: Relax into your own true nature.
- 27:51SPEAKER_01: It's no fanciness.
- 27:56SPEAKER_01: Complete simplicity.
- 28:00SPEAKER_01: Ah, words.
- 28:04SPEAKER_01: In the immediate here and now we see the face of the original Lord abiding in the heart center.
- 28:15SPEAKER_01: You Westerners,
- 28:18SPEAKER_01: by your training are taught to perceive yourselves in your head behind
- 28:28SPEAKER_01: the sense organs.
- 28:32SPEAKER_01: Tibetans,
- 28:33SPEAKER_01: By their training are taught to perceive themselves in the center of mass,
- 28:43SPEAKER_01: the heart chakra,
- 28:46SPEAKER_01: which is not up here where you say I pledge allegiance,
- 28:50SPEAKER_01: underneath the xiphoid process, back there where the apical pulses felt.
- 29:07SPEAKER_01: We speak in symbols because there is nothing else possible.
- 29:13SPEAKER_01: And all words are symbols.
- 29:19SPEAKER_01: And all symbols are not the things symbolized.
- 29:26SPEAKER_01: Everything you perceive with your eyes See with your eyes,
- 29:32SPEAKER_01: hear with your ears,
- 29:33SPEAKER_01: taste with your tongue, smell with your nose,
- 29:43SPEAKER_01: touch with your fingers.
- 29:47SPEAKER_01: It's all a symbol of the natural mind in which it arises and dissolves.
- 29:57SPEAKER_01: The practice of Tantra will bring you quickly to this awareness, should you choose that method.
- 30:15SPEAKER_01: In the immediate here and now, we see the face of the original Lord abiding in the heart center.
- 30:24SPEAKER_01: Identify yourself with this, my spiritual children.
- 30:36SPEAKER_01: Know this as who you really are.
- 30:51SPEAKER_01: Whosoever denies this,
- 30:55SPEAKER_01: wanting more from somewhere else is like the man who has found his elephant
- 31:02SPEAKER_01: and continues to comb the forest for an elephant.
- 31:11SPEAKER_01: He may comb the three dimensions of the microcosmic world system for an eternity.
- 31:20SPEAKER_01: But he will not find so much as the name of Buddha other than the one in his heart.
- 31:29SPEAKER_01: Imagine Buddha, whatever that word means to you.
- 31:32SPEAKER_01: Kuntuzangpo, Kuntuzangmo.
- 31:35SPEAKER_01: Guatama, the one previous to Guatama.
- 31:40SPEAKER_01: Maitriya, the one next.
- 31:42SPEAKER_01: However you see that word Buddha meaning,
- 31:49SPEAKER_01: Don't see it as out there somewhere.
- 31:55SPEAKER_01: Yar this.
- 32:00SPEAKER_01: True nature of your own heart.
- 32:05SPEAKER_01: Such is the nature of my introduction.
- 32:09SPEAKER_01: Intimating recognition of our existential condition.
- 32:14SPEAKER_01: Which is the principal realization of treasure in Zogchen.
- 32:24SPEAKER_00: Are there questions?
- 32:28SPEAKER_00: There's a couple of questions.
- 32:30SPEAKER_00: People may need time to formulate others.
- 32:32SPEAKER_00: Well, give me a couple or one
- 32:34SPEAKER_01: or two and then I'll go on.
- 32:36SPEAKER_01: There's more words in here.
- 32:39SPEAKER_00: Psalm 6 says the Hindu's self and the Buddhist's mind are the same.
- 32:45SPEAKER_00: Can Hinduism and Dzogchen be practiced at the same time?
- 32:52SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 32:52SPEAKER_00: I haven't tried that.
- 32:56SPEAKER_01: I found in my practice of Hinduism that it just got me magical powers
- 33:01SPEAKER_01: which were very distracting.
- 33:03SPEAKER_01: So I didn't practice that while practicing Dzogchen.
- 33:07SPEAKER_01: Too much distraction for me.
- 33:09SPEAKER_01: That's my experience with my karma.
- 33:17SPEAKER_01: Your story may be told differently by you.
- 33:25SPEAKER_00: Are feelings thoughts, strong thoughts that resonate in the body?
- 33:35SPEAKER_01: Feelings and thoughts are the same thing,
- 33:38SPEAKER_01: but feelings are not thoughts and thoughts are not feelings.
- 33:49SPEAKER_01: Brown hair and blonde hair are the same thing.
- 33:52SPEAKER_01: They are hair.
- 33:54SPEAKER_01: But blonde hair is not brown hair and brown hair is not blonde hair.
- 34:02SPEAKER_01: Put down what you learned in Algebra 1.
- 34:04SPEAKER_01: It does not apply to this reality.
- 34:10SPEAKER_00: What is the difference between clear light and awareness?
- 34:15SPEAKER_00: There isn't one.
- 34:19SPEAKER_01: Those are two different words.
- 34:20SPEAKER_01: They're spelled differently.
- 34:23SPEAKER_01: How about that?
- 34:25SPEAKER_00: Next.
- 34:26SPEAKER_00: Can you please briefly describe the pranayama and the visualization that goes with it again?
- 34:35SPEAKER_01: Pranayama?
- 34:36SPEAKER_01: Wait a minute.
- 34:37SPEAKER_01: That's Sanskrit.
- 34:38SPEAKER_01: What is that when it's at home in Tibetan?
- 34:40SPEAKER_01: I don't speak Sanskrit.
- 34:41SPEAKER_01: I'm not a scholar.
- 34:43SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 34:45SPEAKER_00: Do you know what Pranayama is?
- 34:47SPEAKER_01: Okay, let's let them fix that for me and put it in Tibetan.
- 34:51SPEAKER_01: It might be Tsalom.
- 34:52SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure.
- 34:56SPEAKER_00: And a question about are we going through the entire text of Flight of the Geruda?
- 35:02SPEAKER_00: I know it's not today, but over the series.
- 35:05SPEAKER_01: Yes, we will continue doing Flight of the Garuda throughout the entire text.
- 35:10SPEAKER_01: This is designed to be taught in this way as a practice text
- 35:18SPEAKER_01: where you are offered bites and then you go off,
- 35:24SPEAKER_01: finish chewing them and swallow them over the course of a couple of weeks,
- 35:30SPEAKER_01: a month, 10 days, whatever the schedule does.
- 35:35SPEAKER_01: After having done so, you are offered another bite.
- 35:40SPEAKER_01: That's how this text is designed to be used.
- 35:45SPEAKER_01: Each chapter in itself builds on the previous chapters.
- 35:51SPEAKER_01: Those of you following this, we have spoken at times of putting this into Zoom privately.
- 36:00SPEAKER_01: I like having it open.
- 36:04SPEAKER_01: But I would like people,
- 36:07SPEAKER_01: if they're intending to follow this,
- 36:10SPEAKER_01: if they like it and wish to follow it for more than just accidentally tuning
- 36:15SPEAKER_01: in one week and having fun,
- 36:18SPEAKER_01: then please start at the beginning and listen to the tapes.
- 36:24SPEAKER_01: They are available on the website.
- 36:25SPEAKER_01: They can point you out to where they are.
- 36:28SPEAKER_01: I know they're on YouTube, but I don't know how that's organized.
- 36:31SPEAKER_01: But the website is somewhat organized today.
- 36:34SPEAKER_01: As we have, and if it's not, we have volunteers who are going to make it so.
- 36:39SPEAKER_01: We just had a few people offer to help with such things, which is much appreciated.
- 36:47SPEAKER_01: I get together privately about once a month teaching with our handful
- 36:53SPEAKER_01: of very active volunteers, which is really nice to work with a small group.
- 36:59SPEAKER_01: Because they're not all doing the same practice and I have the time
- 37:02SPEAKER_01: for individual attention there.
- 37:04SPEAKER_01: With the rest of you we work with email because I find telephone tiring.
- 37:13SPEAKER_01: I can do one person a day by phone,
- 37:17SPEAKER_01: whereas I can do about a dozen of you by email answering your questions.
- 37:23SPEAKER_01: And we can have conversations back and forth by email.
- 37:26SPEAKER_01: I answer yours and you respond back.
- 37:28SPEAKER_01: Just keep them stuck to each other so I know what we're talking about
- 37:31SPEAKER_01: because I may be involved in several conversations.
- 37:35SPEAKER_01: That was a digression.
- 37:37SPEAKER_01: What question was I trying to answer?
- 37:39SPEAKER_00: You were trying to answer about going through the entire test.
- 37:43SPEAKER_00: Yes, we will.
- 37:43SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 37:44SPEAKER_01: Short answer.
- 37:46SPEAKER_00: To go back to the Pranayama question, they are talking about Salong.
- 37:50SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 37:51SPEAKER_00: So the question was,
- 37:52SPEAKER_00: can you please briefly describe the Pranayama,
- 37:55SPEAKER_00: the Salong, and the visualization that goes with it?
- 38:01SPEAKER_01: For what?
- 38:04SPEAKER_01: We don't use a visualization for Dzogchen.
- 38:09SPEAKER_01: And this is a Dzogchen text.
- 38:11SPEAKER_01: The Pranayama.
- 38:13SPEAKER_01: The channel work is simply to align your channels.
- 38:19SPEAKER_01: So this is sitting in the traditional full Vajra position with your left foot
- 38:27SPEAKER_01: on your right thigh,
- 38:28SPEAKER_01: your right foot on your left thigh,
- 38:31SPEAKER_01: and your hands right on top of the left,
- 38:34SPEAKER_01: brought into four fingers below your navel, the Dantian, in your lap.
- 38:40SPEAKER_01: If you happen to have short arms or a short torso where your hands have
- 38:48SPEAKER_01: to be supported by muscle to land there,
- 38:51SPEAKER_01: that isn't in your lap,
- 38:52SPEAKER_01: it's above your lap,
- 38:54SPEAKER_01: put a pillow under it so you are not supporting your hands by muscle but they're at
- 38:59SPEAKER_01: that level.
- 39:01SPEAKER_01: If you are chair sitting, the Maitreya position is appropriate.
- 39:08SPEAKER_01: You tuck yourself into a double chin.
- 39:10SPEAKER_01: You get your back straight.
- 39:14SPEAKER_01: You compensate for any scoliosis you maybe have.
- 39:17SPEAKER_01: I've got a touch of lordosis, so I have to pay attention to that.
- 39:21SPEAKER_01: And a little dextro, so I have to pay attention to that as I take my position.
- 39:28SPEAKER_01: You know your body.
- 39:33SPEAKER_01: Once you're in the position, relax all the muscles.
- 39:43SPEAKER_01: Let your gaze fall naturally.
- 39:48SPEAKER_01: The place it lands naturally will usually be between one and two meters in front of you.
- 39:56SPEAKER_01: Two meters is pretty average.
- 40:03SPEAKER_01: Relax the focus of your eyeballs.
- 40:09SPEAKER_01: Your teeth are not clenched, they're slightly apart.
- 40:12SPEAKER_01: Your tongue lies naturally on the roof of your mouth.
- 40:21SPEAKER_01: In this position,
- 40:24SPEAKER_01: your channels are in alignment and your chi will flow as smoothly
- 40:30SPEAKER_01: as considering your karmic squirks it can.
- 40:39SPEAKER_01: In this position, relax.
- 40:46SPEAKER_01: And gently allow your attention to lose its point focus.
- 40:57SPEAKER_01: And so no longer paying attention to what you think, feel and perceive.
- 41:09SPEAKER_01: Your attention opens into perception of the perceiver mind itself.
- 41:21SPEAKER_01: This is not a visualization.
- 41:27SPEAKER_01: If you visualize this, it won't work.
- 41:33SPEAKER_01: You are not specifically moving qi here and there in the channels as is common
- 41:40SPEAKER_01: in many pranayama practices, solemn practices.
- 41:49SPEAKER_01: This is different.
- 41:50SPEAKER_01: This is not path of accumulation.
- 41:56SPEAKER_01: This is path of actualization.
- 42:00SPEAKER_01: Dzogchen, not Kerem.
- 42:03SPEAKER_01: So you are not doing.
- 42:07SPEAKER_01: The instructions I give you are preliminaries to assist you in shifting from doing
- 42:14SPEAKER_01: to not doing, but you will not actually succeed.
- 42:21SPEAKER_01: Wrong word.
- 42:23SPEAKER_01: You will not actually be rest as in treacherous.
- 42:29SPEAKER_01: As it actually is until you are not doing that.
- 42:35SPEAKER_01: The hump of shifting from doing to not doing is quite a hump for us doing folks.
- 42:42SPEAKER_01: We actually have a Ruchen called the Outer Body Ruchen that definitely gets you over
- 42:50SPEAKER_01: that if done properly and for long enough.
- 42:55SPEAKER_01: It's not one I will teach online, too accident prone.
- 43:02SPEAKER_01: I have taught it in South America out in the jungles of Brazil once,
- 43:08SPEAKER_01: and in Canada quite far north once.
- 43:12SPEAKER_01: And our plan this year was to teach it in Poland, where we found a suitable place for it.
- 43:18SPEAKER_01: Unfortunately, then there was COVID.
- 43:23SPEAKER_01: When it is safe for traveling and gathering together in groups again,
- 43:32SPEAKER_01: We have put this on the rain check, and it will be one of the first things I do at that time.
- 43:41SPEAKER_01: Who's handling the sign-ups for
- 43:43SPEAKER_00: that, Sasha?
- 43:45SPEAKER_00: Wait, for Poland?
- 43:47SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's Sasha, isn't it?
- 43:49SPEAKER_00: I don't know, I can
- 43:50SPEAKER_01: check.
- 43:54SPEAKER_00: I think so.
- 43:55SPEAKER_01: Yeah, those of you guys who are really wanting to be on that,
- 44:01SPEAKER_01: Go on the forum on my website,
- 44:04SPEAKER_01: start an Outer Body Ruchen as a topic and get your names and emails in there so
- 44:12SPEAKER_01: that we have one place to look when we are able to schedule it again.
- 44:17SPEAKER_01: How does that sound?
- 44:20SPEAKER_01: Because Sasha will see it there and Sasha has been taking care of that with Jan.
- 44:24SPEAKER_01: But Jan's doing a lot of other things right now so I don't want her doing that because it's not
- 44:31SPEAKER_01: Who knows when we're going to be able to do that?
- 44:35SPEAKER_01: But it does get you over that damn habit of doing everything since Treksha is not done.
- 44:46SPEAKER_00: One more question and then I'm going to go back to the text.
- 44:50SPEAKER_00: This may be a digression, but here goes.
- 44:53SPEAKER_00: Could you tell more about those magical skills you learned from the Hindu practices
- 44:58SPEAKER_00: and how it distracted you?
- 45:00SPEAKER_00: I have the idea that I recognized that with practicing Tantra.
- 45:07SPEAKER_01: I really didn't have that problem with Tantra, but I did with the Hindu practices.
- 45:15SPEAKER_01: Do you know how distracting the wish-fulfilling jewel is
- 45:19SPEAKER_01: when you can have everything you want, anything you want?
- 45:25SPEAKER_01: Oh, God, men, beautiful men, gorgeous women, food,
- 45:36SPEAKER_01: clothes, jewels.
- 45:41SPEAKER_01: When you're 25, 20,
- 45:46SPEAKER_01: A little kid.
- 45:48SPEAKER_01: That is damn distracting because you've got all this energy and
- 45:51SPEAKER_01: then somebody just handed you an entire warehouse full of toys.
- 45:58SPEAKER_01: Holy shit.
- 45:59SPEAKER_01: Of course you're going to go play and then of course things are going to happen.
- 46:07SPEAKER_01: I'm not going to tell all those stories today, but I will say there is a Tibetan saying.
- 46:14SPEAKER_01: Which is very important.
- 46:18SPEAKER_01: Should a Yogi suddenly find himself able to fly,
- 46:25SPEAKER_01: he is strongly advised not to fly over large bodies of water,
- 46:33SPEAKER_01: especially since he can't swim.
- 46:39SPEAKER_01: This shit wears off.
- 46:42SPEAKER_01: Usually at the most inconvenient moment possible.
- 46:48SPEAKER_01: So you get the power of invisibility and you start smuggling stuff all over
- 46:52SPEAKER_01: the world and nobody sees you.
- 46:55SPEAKER_01: And once right in the middle of the border, it wears off.
- 47:01SPEAKER_01: And you got six kilos in your backpack.
- 47:03SPEAKER_01: This is the kind of shit that happens.
- 47:09SPEAKER_01: So I strongly recommend you not pursue magical powers.
- 47:17SPEAKER_01: Been there, done that.
- 47:20SPEAKER_01: It's not nearly as fun as you think it's going to be.
- 47:24SPEAKER_00: Next question.
- 47:26SPEAKER_00: Let's see.
- 47:27SPEAKER_00: I had one.
- 47:32SPEAKER_00: Do you recommend first stabilized Treksha before practicing Togil?
- 47:38SPEAKER_00: Yes, I do.
- 47:39SPEAKER_01: And that is under debate.
- 47:45SPEAKER_01: So I will say usually
- 47:49SPEAKER_01: for most people I do, there are exceptions.
- 47:55SPEAKER_01: There are a few people that I would encourage to use Dogel to assist in stabilizing Treksha.
- 48:08SPEAKER_01: For example, anyone in their 80s.
- 48:13SPEAKER_01: You don't have time.
- 48:16SPEAKER_01: If you're going to go rainbow this time, let's get on it.
- 48:20SPEAKER_01: Speed things up.
- 48:21SPEAKER_01: You're out of time.
- 48:23SPEAKER_01: The lifespan is 80 years.
- 48:24SPEAKER_01: You're past that.
- 48:26SPEAKER_01: You're on borrowed time.
- 48:30SPEAKER_01: That's one of the places I make exceptions by age.
- 48:34SPEAKER_01: And I have taught Togel To older people,
- 48:40SPEAKER_01: older than me, who I wasn't sure were quite ready for it,
- 48:48SPEAKER_01: but I wasn't sure weren't.
- 48:52SPEAKER_01: Or weren't going to become ready for it before I saw them again.
- 49:00SPEAKER_01: So although I am not a person who tends to Worship absolutes.
- 49:09SPEAKER_01: I do not tend to teach Togel to young people who have not gotten quite far
- 49:19SPEAKER_01: in stabilizing treachery.
- 49:24SPEAKER_01: Least they do themselves a mischief.
- 49:29SPEAKER_00: Anything else before I go back to the text?
- 49:34SPEAKER_00: How long do you recommend doing open mind meditation?
- 49:39SPEAKER_00: Is it length of a session or frequency that matters?
- 49:43SPEAKER_01: Frequency is more important than length.
- 49:46SPEAKER_01: You should do it just a little bit longer than it is easy for you.
- 49:53SPEAKER_01: So push a little bit, but don't push much.
- 49:58SPEAKER_01: But the more frequency with which you can do this,
- 50:03SPEAKER_01: The recommendation is long sessions pushed to a little bit longer
- 50:10SPEAKER_01: than you're comfortable with in the morning and the evening with six mini sessions,
- 50:17SPEAKER_01: six to eight during the day,
- 50:20SPEAKER_01: lasting only about one to two minutes,
- 50:23SPEAKER_01: but in the proper position with your channels in alignment, plus
- 50:35SPEAKER_01: 80,000
- 50:39SPEAKER_01: itty bitty teeny tiny sessions lasting a tenth of a second each
- 50:48SPEAKER_01: per day.
- 50:51SPEAKER_01: If you do that, you will get where you're going.
- 51:00SPEAKER_01: Those are the instructions.
- 51:02SPEAKER_01: The instructions work.
- 51:04SPEAKER_01: But most people do not choose to follow the instructions now.
- 51:12SPEAKER_01: They will follow them later.
- 51:16SPEAKER_01: I'll start tomorrow.
- 51:19SPEAKER_01: Today is busy.
- 51:21SPEAKER_01: I'll start later.
- 51:25SPEAKER_01: I'll start when this is done or when that is done or after this.
- 51:34SPEAKER_01: Sound familiar?
- 51:37SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I do it too.
- 51:40SPEAKER_01: I will clean the bathroom.
- 51:44SPEAKER_01: But not today because I'm working today.
- 51:46SPEAKER_01: I'm teaching online,
- 51:47SPEAKER_01: so I don't have to do any work today, so I'm not going to clean the bathroom.
- 51:50SPEAKER_01: I'll do it tomorrow.
- 51:52SPEAKER_01: Oh, tomorrow we're going grocery shopping.
- 51:55SPEAKER_01: Okay, I'm tired after grocery shopping, disinfecting all the groceries, yada, yada, yada.
- 52:01SPEAKER_01: Tomorrow.
- 52:05SPEAKER_01: Eventually my bathroom will offend me greater than
- 52:13SPEAKER_01: my ability to procrastinate.
- 52:20SPEAKER_01: Yeah, if you want to procrastinate housework, keep your procrastination in where it belongs.
- 52:26SPEAKER_01: Housework.
- 52:28SPEAKER_01: Nobody dies because your house is a mess.
- 52:37SPEAKER_01: Do your practice anyway.
- 52:41SPEAKER_00: Zogchen is easy.
- 52:45SPEAKER_01: For your practice to work, it should be effortless.
- 52:55SPEAKER_01: And the only way it's ever going to work is if you do it now.
- 53:00SPEAKER_01: Right now.
- 53:02SPEAKER_01: This now.
- 53:04SPEAKER_01: Not the next now, this one right now.
- 53:08SPEAKER_01: Put your mind, mini session, quick glance.
- 53:13SPEAKER_01: Yep, infinite open awareness.
- 53:14SPEAKER_01: It's still there, didn't go anywhere, huh?
- 53:18SPEAKER_01: Go on to the next thing you're doing, the next sentence, the next phrase.
- 53:22SPEAKER_01: Check again.
- 53:22SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, it's still there.
- 53:26SPEAKER_01: This brings you forth to the third word of Garibdorji, Sopa.
- 53:35SPEAKER_01: To develop absolute certainty is the third vital point.
- 53:42SPEAKER_01: You will get certain
- 53:47SPEAKER_01: by this method of frequent itty bitty teeny tiny mini sessions.
- 53:54SPEAKER_01: The first point, yeah, you got to see your mind.
- 53:56SPEAKER_01: You got to be able to shift your attention from point focus to open awareness.
- 54:03SPEAKER_01: You develop that ability and there is a Rushen, Nundro,
- 54:10SPEAKER_01: called the Inner Mind Rushen,
- 54:14SPEAKER_01: which will develop that ability in which I occasionally teach
- 54:18SPEAKER_01: in small groups online.
- 54:21SPEAKER_01: Rushens I tend to teach in Zoom groups just so I can give the individual attention needed.
- 54:35SPEAKER_01: The first point is Tawa.
- 54:42SPEAKER_01: Find Tawa.
- 54:43SPEAKER_01: See the nature of your mind as it is.
- 54:47SPEAKER_01: Relax as that.
- 54:53SPEAKER_01: The second point is to practice.
- 54:55SPEAKER_01: Keep doing it again and again at all times and in all circumstances.
- 55:00SPEAKER_01: Relax as that again and again.
- 55:07SPEAKER_01: By doing this,
- 55:08SPEAKER_01: the absolute certainty which no longer allows your thoughts to fool you
- 55:18SPEAKER_01: as
- 55:18SPEAKER_01: to what they are arises spontaneously.
- 55:25SPEAKER_01: Do you understand?
- 55:27SPEAKER_01: This is very important.
- 55:30SPEAKER_01: This is How to Get Enlightened 101.
- 55:34SPEAKER_01: Simple words, real easy.
- 55:37SPEAKER_01: You are perfectly capable of doing it if you choose to do it now, in this now.
- 55:50SPEAKER_01: Check on your mind.
- 55:54SPEAKER_01: Still there.
- 56:07SPEAKER_01: Dzogchen is not difficult.
- 56:13SPEAKER_01: Oh yes, some teachers are really into obtusification with words,
- 56:20SPEAKER_01: but it is not necessary to do that.
- 56:26SPEAKER_01: Some people find it fun, which is just fine.
- 56:33SPEAKER_01: Playfulness is never wrong.
- 56:38SPEAKER_01: Unless it harms folk.
- 56:45SPEAKER_01: Emma Ho,
- 56:48SPEAKER_01: once more listen attentively, my noble sons and daughters.
- 56:54SPEAKER_01: The three modes of Buddha being essence, nature and responsiveness, reflectiveness.
- 57:10SPEAKER_01: And the five modes of being,
- 57:15SPEAKER_01: as well as the five aspects of primal awareness,
- 57:20SPEAKER_01: are completely perfected in the natural,
- 57:24SPEAKER_01: luminous, intrinsic awareness of the year-end now.
- 57:29SPEAKER_01: This now.
- 57:34SPEAKER_01: We break Buddha nature down.
- 57:39SPEAKER_01: Into three, only for the purpose of talking about it.
- 57:44SPEAKER_01: The breakage is not real.
- 57:47SPEAKER_01: There really isn't a Dharmakaya, a Sambhogakaya, and a Nirmanakaya as separate things.
- 57:59SPEAKER_01: The Dharmata, all that is and all that is not.
- 58:05SPEAKER_01: Wakantanka in Lakota.
- 58:09SPEAKER_01: Thusness.
- 58:14SPEAKER_01: Nameless.
- 58:24SPEAKER_01: Because nothing can be said of it.
- 58:31SPEAKER_01: And we are humans and we gotta talk.
- 58:36SPEAKER_01: Help, I can't shut up.
- 58:42SPEAKER_01: You talk to yourself at 2 a.m. about what worries you, right?
- 58:47SPEAKER_01: You can't shut up.
- 58:50SPEAKER_01: This is human.
- 58:51SPEAKER_01: We gotta talk.
- 58:53SPEAKER_01: So in order to talk to ourselves about the totality of the dharmata,
- 59:03SPEAKER_01: we talk about its infinite, open, empty, vast,
- 59:12SPEAKER_01: Nature.
- 59:18SPEAKER_01: We talk about the clear light which is inherent to that.
- 59:27SPEAKER_01: And we talk about the reflective, responsive manifestation of that.
- 59:38SPEAKER_01: And we name those dharmakaya, sambhogakaya, nirmanakaya.
- 59:43SPEAKER_01: But they're ways of talking about three qualities of one thing.
- 59:50SPEAKER_01: For example, Lama Lena is old,
- 59:58SPEAKER_01: is a yogi,
- 1:00:03SPEAKER_01: is cis female,
- 1:00:09SPEAKER_01: is shorter than she would like to be to reach the top shelf.
- 1:00:17SPEAKER_01: I'm not talking about something different.
- 1:00:19SPEAKER_01: I'm talking about things that make up the personality Lama Lena,
- 1:00:24SPEAKER_01: who's often kvetching about being too short.
- 1:00:31SPEAKER_01: You gotta kvetch about something.
- 1:00:36SPEAKER_01: It's the Russian side.
- 1:00:40SPEAKER_01: We also break down the liveliness
- 1:00:47SPEAKER_01: into five aspects
- 1:00:54SPEAKER_01: which can be related to
- 1:00:57SPEAKER_01: the five realms,
- 1:01:02SPEAKER_01: which can be related To the five categories of emotion,
- 1:01:11SPEAKER_01: which can be related to the five kinds of wisdom intrinsic in natural mind.
- 1:01:19SPEAKER_01: So these patterns do not exist outside of mind.
- 1:01:26SPEAKER_01: They are mind made cultural patterns used as fingers.
- 1:01:41SPEAKER_01: Since they may be new to you,
- 1:01:45SPEAKER_01: they will require more explanation than if these are second nature to you
- 1:01:55SPEAKER_01: and therefore can be used to point something else.
- 1:02:05SPEAKER_01: The essence of total presence.
- 1:02:10SPEAKER_01: Indefinable by any terms such as color, shape or other attribute.
- 1:02:16SPEAKER_01: The openness,
- 1:02:17SPEAKER_01: the indefinable emptiness,
- 1:02:20SPEAKER_01: empty of characteristics is the Dharmakaya, the inherent radiance of the emptiness.
- 1:02:30SPEAKER_01: Is the light of the Sambhogakaya, clear light by which the seer sees.
- 1:02:35SPEAKER_01: We talked about how the words clear light symbolize awareness.
- 1:02:43SPEAKER_01: As does the word Sambhogakaya.
- 1:02:51SPEAKER_01: The unimpeded medium in which all things manifest is Nirmanakaya.
- 1:03:02SPEAKER_01: All this here.
- 1:03:06SPEAKER_01: Of course, you don't actually see Nirmanakaya as it actually is.
- 1:03:12SPEAKER_01: Not until you manage rainbow.
- 1:03:14SPEAKER_01: What you see is your own projections on the rainbow-colored light of Nirmanakaya.
- 1:03:27SPEAKER_01: Taken in your confusion as solid.
- 1:03:36SPEAKER_01: The three modes are explained figuratively like this.
- 1:03:42SPEAKER_01: The Dharmakaya is a crystal mirror.
- 1:03:58SPEAKER_01: The Sambhogakaya is its reflective nature, the brilliant clarity of that.
- 1:04:11SPEAKER_01: The Nirmanakaya is the unobstructed medium in which the reflection appears.
- 1:04:18SPEAKER_01: Look.
- 1:04:40SPEAKER_01: Dharmakaya.
- 1:04:43SPEAKER_01: Is analogized by this object in my hand.
- 1:04:51SPEAKER_01: The glass.
- 1:04:55SPEAKER_01: Pretend it extends to infinity in all directions and is not made of matter.
- 1:05:05SPEAKER_01: The reflective surface of the glass is the vitality.
- 1:05:11SPEAKER_01: Sambhogakaya.
- 1:05:14SPEAKER_01: Look inside the glass.
- 1:05:16SPEAKER_01: Do you see that whole world in there?
- 1:05:21SPEAKER_01: That's Nermanakaya.
- 1:05:26SPEAKER_01: This is an analogy.
- 1:05:30SPEAKER_01: It's not real, guys.
- 1:05:32SPEAKER_01: It's an analogy.
- 1:05:34SPEAKER_01: Don't go literalist on me.
- 1:05:41SPEAKER_01: From the beginning, people's minds have existed as these three modes of being.
- 1:05:49SPEAKER_01: If they are able to recognize this spontaneously,
- 1:05:56SPEAKER_01: it is unnecessary for them to practice even so much as a formal moment
- 1:06:03SPEAKER_01: of meditation.
- 1:06:06SPEAKER_01: The awakening to Buddhahood is instantaneous.
- 1:06:11SPEAKER_01: And this does happen.
- 1:06:16SPEAKER_01: We call those for whom you simply point out and they get it and are fully enlightened, Jik Jawa.
- 1:06:28SPEAKER_01: They're rare.
- 1:06:31SPEAKER_01: Rinpoche and I thought they were mythical and didn't happen anymore until we met one.
- 1:06:36SPEAKER_01: Just once.
- 1:06:39SPEAKER_01: In all the many years of me translating fur into him and him teaching.
- 1:06:46SPEAKER_01: Chik Chawa once.
- 1:06:54SPEAKER_01: From the first people's minds have existed as these three modes of being.
- 1:07:00SPEAKER_01: They have never been other than this.
- 1:07:06SPEAKER_01: The whole point of all the practice you do.
- 1:07:11SPEAKER_01: Is to see your own true nature as it is.
- 1:07:16SPEAKER_01: Rather than as you are afraid it might be or hope it will be.
- 1:07:20SPEAKER_01: But you have to stop trying to improve yourself and fix yourself and repair yourself
- 1:07:27SPEAKER_01: and polish yourself and
- 1:07:32SPEAKER_01: disparage yourself and blame yourself.
- 1:07:37SPEAKER_01: And you just have to stop.
- 1:07:41SPEAKER_01: And you just stop for a moment making something out of yourself and just be there as you are.
- 1:08:00SPEAKER_01: Without separation.
- 1:08:04SPEAKER_01: Without grasping.
- 1:08:06SPEAKER_01: Without rejecting.
- 1:08:09SPEAKER_01: Without trying to apply your concept of perfection on the innate natural state of perfection.
- 1:08:28SPEAKER_01: In this introduction to the three modes, they are defined separately.
- 1:08:35SPEAKER_01: In truth,
- 1:08:35SPEAKER_01: my heart,
- 1:08:36SPEAKER_01: children,
- 1:08:37SPEAKER_01: do not fall into the error Of believing them to be separate or belonging
- 1:08:43SPEAKER_01: to different continuums.
- 1:08:47SPEAKER_01: From the beginning, the three modes of being are empty and utterly pure.
- 1:08:53SPEAKER_01: Understanding them as a single essence that is the union of radiance
- 1:09:01SPEAKER_01: and emptiness rest in a state of detachment.
- 1:09:10SPEAKER_01: The triad of essence, nature,
- 1:09:13SPEAKER_01: and responsiveness again corresponds to Dharmakaya, Sambhogakaya, and Nermanakaya.
- 1:09:21SPEAKER_01: Understand these three as mystic union of emptiness and radiance.
- 1:09:29SPEAKER_01: Conduct yourself in a relaxed state of detachment.
- 1:09:42SPEAKER_01: Are there questions specifically on this Dharmakaya,
- 1:09:46SPEAKER_01: Sambhogakaya, Nirmanakaya before I move on to the next?
- 1:09:51SPEAKER_00: There is a question about what is the difference between Dharmakaya and Dharmadhatu?
- 1:09:58SPEAKER_01: Dharmadhatu is the word used to refer to the combination of Dharmakaya,
- 1:10:04SPEAKER_01: Sambhogakaya, Nirmanakaya as one thing.
- 1:10:08SPEAKER_01: That wasn't easy.
- 1:10:12SPEAKER_01: Sometimes it's called dharmata, sometimes dharmadatu.
- 1:10:18SPEAKER_00: Rainbow bodies seem so rare, is it even possible for regular people?
- 1:10:24SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:10:26SPEAKER_01: There was a guy from... Where was he from?
- 1:10:32SPEAKER_01: Down the peninsula somewhere in California
- 1:10:37SPEAKER_01: who managed it back in the 40s.
- 1:10:44SPEAKER_01: And let's see, Jungchub Dorji's daughter pulled it off in the 70s, I think she did it.
- 1:10:54SPEAKER_01: So yeah, it still happens.
- 1:10:58SPEAKER_01: Even Injis do it occasionally.
- 1:11:01SPEAKER_01: Not that often.
- 1:11:04SPEAKER_01: Too many distractions.
- 1:11:07SPEAKER_01: But doable.
- 1:11:19SPEAKER_01: Do you remember my teaching you in Dreamtime about changing something red
- 1:11:25SPEAKER_01: to something blue by passing it behind your back and not looking at it
- 1:11:32SPEAKER_01: while it changes?
- 1:11:40SPEAKER_01: My understanding is that you can't do that while anybody's watching.
- 1:11:51SPEAKER_01: No, that's not quite right.
- 1:11:58SPEAKER_01: Rainbow body is what the people who noticed afterwards that one had gone call it.
- 1:12:12SPEAKER_01: No, that's not quite right.
- 1:12:13SPEAKER_01: It's very hard to talk about how it works and how you do it.
- 1:12:19SPEAKER_01: The recommendation is not to speculate over much on the subject,
- 1:12:25SPEAKER_01: but simply follow the instructions,
- 1:12:30SPEAKER_01: which I gave you about ten minutes ago.
- 1:12:34SPEAKER_01: Just do that.
- 1:12:39SPEAKER_01: Without speculation and not speculation.
- 1:12:44SPEAKER_01: Without hope and fear.
- 1:12:48SPEAKER_01: Without trying to write the script of it,
- 1:12:53SPEAKER_01: without trying to get something from it,
- 1:12:57SPEAKER_01: a self-improvement of some kind, which is a self-grasping.
- 1:13:05SPEAKER_01: Just follow the instructions.
- 1:13:10SPEAKER_01: That's all.
- 1:13:15SPEAKER_00: Of course it's possible.
- 1:13:16SPEAKER_01: Lots of people do it.
- 1:13:19SPEAKER_00: It sounds like there are phases to trick you.
- 1:13:23SPEAKER_00: How do I know which phase I'm in?
- 1:13:26SPEAKER_01: Why do you care?
- 1:13:27SPEAKER_01: Just do the practice.
- 1:13:37SPEAKER_01: And that you can come back to me with why you care
- 1:13:39SPEAKER_01: and why you think it might be important to recognize that.
- 1:13:44SPEAKER_01: But I might not agree with you, which is okay.
- 1:13:47SPEAKER_01: We can disagree.
- 1:13:49SPEAKER_01: Those are thoughts.
- 1:13:50SPEAKER_01: Come on, check.
- 1:13:51SPEAKER_01: Is your mind still there?
- 1:13:52SPEAKER_01: Take a look.
- 1:13:53SPEAKER_01: Follow the instructions.
- 1:13:58SPEAKER_01: Nine is, have you lost yours?
- 1:14:02SPEAKER_01: Have you lost your mind?
- 1:14:04SPEAKER_01: Well, go find it.
- 1:14:07SPEAKER_01: It's important.
- 1:14:10SPEAKER_00: Remember back in the day when we had an actual toy brain around the house?
- 1:14:16SPEAKER_00: So if anybody lost their mind, we could find that one at least.
- 1:14:19SPEAKER_01: I wonder what ever became of that.
- 1:14:24SPEAKER_01: Yeah, stuff comes and goes.
- 1:14:27SPEAKER_00: I pray for realization or want it,
- 1:14:29SPEAKER_00: but sometimes I don't even know if that is what I really want.
- 1:14:34SPEAKER_00: Why is that?
- 1:14:36SPEAKER_00: Your karma.
- 1:14:43SPEAKER_01: You're just listening to the sound of the wind whistle through your channels
- 1:14:47SPEAKER_01: and thinking it's making something important, like we all do.
- 1:15:02SPEAKER_01: Praying is nice, mon lam, wish path, which is not the same as the Western idea of prayer.
- 1:15:18SPEAKER_01: Following the instructions and doing the practice is better.
- 1:15:25SPEAKER_00: Next.
- 1:15:25SPEAKER_00: A couple more questions on Rainbow Body.
- 1:15:28SPEAKER_00: Plus,
- 1:15:29SPEAKER_00: I mentioned in the comments there's an actual book about Rainbow Body Phenomena done
- 1:15:35SPEAKER_00: by a Francis Tissot.
- 1:15:37SPEAKER_00: I don't have a link to post into the comments.
- 1:15:40SPEAKER_00: But to go back to the Rainbow Body...
- 1:15:42SPEAKER_00: I don't vouch for that book.
- 1:15:45SPEAKER_01: I haven't read it.
- 1:15:46SPEAKER_01: Don't know if it's somebody talking through their toot or not.
- 1:15:50SPEAKER_01: Don't know that it isn't.
- 1:15:52SPEAKER_01: Just haven't read it myself,
- 1:15:53SPEAKER_01: so don't consider that you heard about it from me and I vouched for it.
- 1:15:59SPEAKER_00: Is it true that when you go rainbow body,
- 1:16:02SPEAKER_00: you totally exhaust your karma with this world,
- 1:16:05SPEAKER_00: so your work reincarnating as a guide for others will be hindered?
- 1:16:10SPEAKER_01: No.
- 1:16:13SPEAKER_01: That is not true.
- 1:16:15SPEAKER_01: You simply will reincarnate as a guide for others according to their karma.
- 1:16:25SPEAKER_01: And who do you think you, the
- 1:16:30SPEAKER_01: perceiver, are anyway, other than the perception?
- 1:16:39SPEAKER_01: Rainbow body, the exhaustion of karma.
- 1:16:44SPEAKER_01: It's not you as you believe yourself to be in this moment that does that.
- 1:17:03SPEAKER_01: Next question.
- 1:17:06SPEAKER_00: Let's see.
- 1:17:07SPEAKER_00: Can you only obtain rainbow body when you die?
- 1:17:18SPEAKER_01: There is no such thing as death.
- 1:17:34SPEAKER_01: I'm actually looking for a way to phrase an answer to that question
- 1:17:38SPEAKER_01: that is even slightly accurate.
- 1:17:46SPEAKER_01: It's not something That you go on with your life afterwards.
- 1:17:54SPEAKER_01: So in that way, yes.
- 1:18:00SPEAKER_01: But as the 16th Karmapa's last words upon dying were,
- 1:18:12SPEAKER_01: nothing happens.
- 1:18:21SPEAKER_01: Birth and death.
- 1:18:29SPEAKER_01: No different than the arising and vanishing
- 1:18:36SPEAKER_01: of the manifestation of each moment.
- 1:18:42SPEAKER_01: Next question.
- 1:18:44SPEAKER_00: Can lying down put your channels into alignment?
- 1:18:51SPEAKER_01: No, it tends to sway back you.
- 1:19:03SPEAKER_01: Lying down on your back.
- 1:19:05SPEAKER_01: You'll get a better alignment lying down on your side than on your back.
- 1:19:11SPEAKER_01: If you do,
- 1:19:13SPEAKER_01: due to physical problems,
- 1:19:14SPEAKER_01: need Two, practice lying down on your back, say because your back is broken.
- 1:19:23SPEAKER_01: Do have your knees propped up quite high so that your ass is almost in
- 1:19:29SPEAKER_01: a sitting position because the lower curve of the spine and
- 1:19:33SPEAKER_01: the channel is straightened by that.
- 1:19:42SPEAKER_00: Next, when should someone ask for instructions on togel, if ever?
- 1:19:48SPEAKER_00: When they feel
- 1:19:54SPEAKER_01: with a certain amount of certainty
- 1:19:59SPEAKER_01: the third word of Garabdurji.
- 1:20:07SPEAKER_01: Feel is the wrong statement.
- 1:20:09SPEAKER_01: Acknowledge, recognize,
- 1:20:13SPEAKER_01: Might be a better word for it.
- 1:20:18SPEAKER_00: Next.
- 1:20:21SPEAKER_00: What is a lung?
- 1:20:23SPEAKER_00: Is this teaching a lung?
- 1:20:25SPEAKER_01: This teaching is a lung.
- 1:20:29SPEAKER_01: A lung is the reading of a text out loud.
- 1:20:36SPEAKER_01: Not necessarily with any explanations.
- 1:20:40SPEAKER_01: The lung is the reading of the text.
- 1:20:43SPEAKER_01: The Qi is the explaining of the text and the Wong is the esoteric transmission of
- 1:20:54SPEAKER_01: the essence contained in the text.
- 1:21:03SPEAKER_01: They may be done separately or together.
- 1:21:07SPEAKER_01: Next.
- 1:21:08SPEAKER_00: Can this online session be considered a transmission for the practice?
- 1:21:13SPEAKER_01: Yes, we believe
- 1:21:21SPEAKER_01: that
- 1:21:24SPEAKER_01: online is effective
- 1:21:28SPEAKER_01: for both Lung and Tri and many teachers,
- 1:21:35SPEAKER_01: not all,
- 1:21:37SPEAKER_01: believe that online in person,
- 1:21:41SPEAKER_01: actually being present at the same time, Is effective for wongs.
- 1:21:50SPEAKER_01: I think that lung and tree can record perfectly well.
- 1:21:57SPEAKER_01: For a wong to be taken across time as well as space,
- 1:22:04SPEAKER_01: much depends not, well,
- 1:22:07SPEAKER_01: also on the person giving the wong,
- 1:22:09SPEAKER_01: but a great deal depends on the person receiving it.
- 1:22:14SPEAKER_01: Yes, you can if you're ripe.
- 1:22:18SPEAKER_01: No, you can't if you're not.
- 1:22:21SPEAKER_01: Of course, that's true of wongs in person too.
- 1:22:24SPEAKER_01: But you don't have to be as ripe if you're there in person to get the wong as you do
- 1:22:32SPEAKER_01: if you're over distance or over distance and time,
- 1:22:37SPEAKER_01: such as using a prerecorded video.
- 1:22:44SPEAKER_01: I think some Wongs will record and can be received by some people,
- 1:22:51SPEAKER_01: but the person receiving the Wong has to be able to reach not only across space
- 1:23:00SPEAKER_01: and believe that they can have the faith in that,
- 1:23:05SPEAKER_01: but they need to have the faith that they can reach across time as well and
- 1:23:11SPEAKER_01: at least some concepts
- 1:23:15SPEAKER_01: That allows them to perceive across the space-time continuum rather than only one aspect of it.
- 1:23:34SPEAKER_01: I have found, uh, lungs record fine.
- 1:23:38SPEAKER_01: You can get a lung off a tape.
- 1:23:40SPEAKER_01: I get a lot of lungs off tapes, wander around YouTube and find somebody who's doing the lung.
- 1:23:45SPEAKER_01: For something I want, and okay, I can get it.
- 1:23:50SPEAKER_01: That's always nice.
- 1:23:54SPEAKER_00: There are a couple of questions of the,
- 1:23:57SPEAKER_00: are we there yet variety that you refer to, how to know when your practice is going.
- 1:24:02SPEAKER_01: When you're sure, then you are there.
- 1:24:10SPEAKER_01: Third word of Garib Dorji, to develop absolute certainty is the third vital point.
- 1:24:16SPEAKER_01: How to know if you're going in the right direction?
- 1:24:19SPEAKER_01: Are you following the instructions?
- 1:24:22SPEAKER_01: So if you have questions about the instructions, now is the time to ask them.
- 1:24:28SPEAKER_01: But if you're following the instructions, you're going in the right direction.
- 1:24:32SPEAKER_01: It's very simple.
- 1:24:37SPEAKER_00: What are the five modes
- 1:24:39SPEAKER_01: of being?
- 1:24:41SPEAKER_01: This refers to the mandala of the Dhyani Buddhas.
- 1:24:59SPEAKER_01: Which refers to many of the chakras.
- 1:25:10SPEAKER_01: Which refers to the categories of feelings.
- 1:25:15SPEAKER_01: Which refers to the five wisdoms.
- 1:25:19SPEAKER_01: And I am going to save going on about that for next time.
- 1:25:26SPEAKER_01: Because it will take the entire couple of hours to introduce and deepen the subject
- 1:25:36SPEAKER_01: to the depths for which it goes.
- 1:25:46SPEAKER_00: Next question.
- 1:25:49SPEAKER_00: There aren't more that are related to the actual Garuda text.
- 1:25:53SPEAKER_01: There are more general practice questions.
- 1:25:55SPEAKER_01: Give me one or two general practice questions.
- 1:25:58SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 1:25:59SPEAKER_00: Somebody needed a clarification on what is Togel.
- 1:26:05SPEAKER_01: Togel is a set of yogas with positions and eye gazing done
- 1:26:14SPEAKER_01: in Once trepture is relatively stable,
- 1:26:18SPEAKER_01: for one must rest in trepture while undertaking these specific physical positions
- 1:26:27SPEAKER_01: and gazes of the eyes.
- 1:26:30SPEAKER_01: This is usually considered the last practice taught.
- 1:26:36SPEAKER_01: And the only person I know who has taught it openly and publicly
- 1:26:42SPEAKER_01: that I've ever heard of Was Norbu Rinpoche shortly before the end of his life
- 1:26:48SPEAKER_01: because he was out of time.
- 1:26:52SPEAKER_01: So he couldn't wait for all his students to ripen.
- 1:26:57SPEAKER_01: So he taught it to generally all the students so that they would have the teaching
- 1:27:05SPEAKER_01: and the blessing of the teaching when they did ripen.
- 1:27:13SPEAKER_01: I may do that
- 1:27:16SPEAKER_01: if I hear I'm terminal,
- 1:27:20SPEAKER_01: but I haven't heard that yet.
- 1:27:22SPEAKER_01: All I've got wrong with me right now is old age.
- 1:27:29SPEAKER_01: So I ain't teaching you Dogel online.
- 1:27:34SPEAKER_01: Maybe we do a retreat when I can travel again with a few people who I think are ready for it.
- 1:27:42SPEAKER_00: Is Chud training useful for Dzogchen?
- 1:27:45SPEAKER_01: Yes, especially if you are plagued by fear or anxiety and distracted by that particular pattern.
- 1:27:57SPEAKER_01: When fear or anxiety is the pattern that you are suffering from at a given time
- 1:28:06SPEAKER_01: in your life, practicing Chud is excellent To get you past that.
- 1:28:16SPEAKER_01: Highly recommended, lovely practice.
- 1:28:20SPEAKER_01: And since there are so many things to be anxious about in life,
- 1:28:26SPEAKER_00: I highly recommend you learn and practice it
- 1:28:31SPEAKER_01: according to your choice of lineage.
- 1:28:36SPEAKER_01: That would be Nyingma, Tromachud, Argue, Machik.
- 1:28:43SPEAKER_01: Or Bon, which I am less familiar with, but which has a lovely form of Chud.
- 1:28:51SPEAKER_01: So, pick the one you feel closest to.
- 1:28:56SPEAKER_01: Find a teacher teaching it.
- 1:28:59SPEAKER_01: Learn it.
- 1:29:01SPEAKER_01: And do it if anxiety is at all a problem for you.
- 1:29:08SPEAKER_00: Next.
- 1:29:10SPEAKER_00: What does it mean to have a transmission of a teaching?
- 1:29:20SPEAKER_01: There are levels, four levels of transmission.
- 1:29:27SPEAKER_01: There is an intellectual level which explains
- 1:29:35SPEAKER_01: And an emotional level which sings and resonates.
- 1:29:43SPEAKER_01: Then there is a symbolic level which involves the transmitter
- 1:29:54SPEAKER_01: doing things,
- 1:29:55SPEAKER_01: manipulating implements in front of you.
- 1:30:22SPEAKER_01: Sometimes that involves hitting you over the head with a vase,
- 1:30:27SPEAKER_01: touching your throat with a mala.
- 1:30:33SPEAKER_01: All sorts of things,
- 1:30:36SPEAKER_01: symbolically done, pantomimed, that point.
- 1:30:42SPEAKER_01: And then there is a telepathic component,
- 1:30:46SPEAKER_01: which is directly transmitted mind to mind for those who can hear it.
- 1:31:13SPEAKER_01: In different tantras, different symbols are used.
- 1:31:24SPEAKER_01: In Dzogchen, which is also called Ati Yoga, Ati Tantra,
- 1:31:33SPEAKER_01: certain symbols are used.
- 1:31:37SPEAKER_01: I think that answered that question.
- 1:31:39SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 1:31:40SPEAKER_00: That's the end of the questions for this part.
- 1:31:42SPEAKER_01: Then I think we are complete for today.
- 1:31:47SPEAKER_01: I don't want to enter deeply into the pattern of the five Dhyani Buddhas.
- 1:31:56SPEAKER_01: The directions, the emotions, the colors, and the associated channels and realms.
- 1:32:10SPEAKER_01: I'm going to give you a simple today because I'm not exhausted or tired
- 1:32:15SPEAKER_01: and we still have just a little bit of time.
- 1:32:22SPEAKER_01: Good coffee.
- 1:32:30SPEAKER_01: Consider yourself as a mandala.
- 1:32:34SPEAKER_01: You are.
- 1:32:38SPEAKER_01: To the north of you.
- 1:32:48SPEAKER_01: Imagine the color green.
- 1:32:54SPEAKER_01: Imagine competition transformed into competence, all accomplishing wisdom.
- 1:33:09SPEAKER_01: To the south of you,
- 1:33:13SPEAKER_01: Imagine the color gold.
- 1:33:19SPEAKER_01: Ratnasambhava, the wishful filling jewel.
- 1:33:31SPEAKER_01: To the east of you.
- 1:33:39SPEAKER_01: Vajrasattva, mirror like wisdom of equanimity.
- 1:33:44SPEAKER_01: White in color.
- 1:33:47SPEAKER_01: The transformations of fear and anger.
- 1:33:53SPEAKER_01: To the west of you.
- 1:34:01SPEAKER_01: Behind the sunset.
- 1:34:06SPEAKER_01: The brilliant red of Amitabha.
- 1:34:14SPEAKER_01: Lust transformed into great-hearted,
- 1:34:18SPEAKER_01: open-heartedness,
- 1:34:19SPEAKER_01: where your lust and your jealous,
- 1:34:23SPEAKER_01: separate,
- 1:34:23SPEAKER_01: individual,
- 1:34:24SPEAKER_01: grasping love is no longer point-focused to a single entity,
- 1:34:31SPEAKER_01: my lover, my family, but wide open to all life in the universe, the very vitality
- 1:34:48SPEAKER_01: And in the center, utter spaciousness.
- 1:34:54SPEAKER_01: Where exhausted depression opens up into space
- 1:35:02SPEAKER_01: and leaves room for phenomena.
- 1:35:07SPEAKER_01: See yourself as this pattern A clump of emotions with words justifying them.
- 1:35:17SPEAKER_01: Jealousy, competitiveness.
- 1:35:22SPEAKER_01: Comparativeness to the north, green in color.
- 1:35:25SPEAKER_01: Fear, anger to the east, white in color.
- 1:35:32SPEAKER_01: Avarice, unsatisfactory desire, unsatisfiableness.
- 1:35:39SPEAKER_01: To the south, golden color.
- 1:35:45SPEAKER_01: Lust, love,
- 1:35:49SPEAKER_01: grasping,
- 1:35:51SPEAKER_01: fear of the loss of the lover,
- 1:35:57SPEAKER_01: singularity of love,
- 1:36:00SPEAKER_01: falling in love,
- 1:36:03SPEAKER_01: fear of not being loved back,
- 1:36:06SPEAKER_01: all of that stuff balled into a great ball of bilblah together.
- 1:36:14SPEAKER_01: To the center, your depression.
- 1:36:18SPEAKER_01: I can't be bothered.
- 1:36:21SPEAKER_01: Sludge, I don't wanna move.
- 1:36:22SPEAKER_01: I don't wanna do anything.
- 1:36:24SPEAKER_01: Don't wanna.
- 1:36:26SPEAKER_01: Standard COVID depression where we have all this time and we don't wanna do anything
- 1:36:31SPEAKER_01: with it and we're bored.
- 1:36:34SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's in the middle.
- 1:36:36SPEAKER_01: See yourself as this mandala and then let go.
- 1:36:44SPEAKER_01: Of the thought patterns that support the twist of emotion and allow them to open up
- 1:36:50SPEAKER_01: and resolve themselves into the mirror-like wisdom,
- 1:36:55SPEAKER_01: white in the eastern direction that reflects all phenomena equally.
- 1:37:02SPEAKER_01: Into the wish-fulfilling jewel of the richness of the textures of samsara of
- 1:37:08SPEAKER_01: the south, where samsara and nirvana match in the bliss of texture.
- 1:37:15SPEAKER_01: To the wide open Bodhisitta Buddha consciousness,
- 1:37:21SPEAKER_01: the clear light nature of love of the Western direction.
- 1:37:28SPEAKER_01: To the utter competence.
- 1:37:32SPEAKER_01: All accomplishing wisdom which dances within the pattern as the pattern,
- 1:37:38SPEAKER_01: accomplishing the pattern which has always been accomplished of all buddhas,
- 1:37:43SPEAKER_01: all sentient beings arising as all buddhas.
- 1:37:47SPEAKER_01: So it is,
- 1:37:48SPEAKER_01: so it has been,
- 1:37:49SPEAKER_01: so it will be of the northern direction and the infinite open vastness
- 1:37:57SPEAKER_01: without constriction of the center.
- 1:38:01SPEAKER_01: Relax.
- 1:38:06SPEAKER_01: Yara, this.
- 1:38:11SPEAKER_01: Infinite dance of awareness, playfully sparkling and shimmering nature of clear light.
- 1:38:22SPEAKER_01: Yara, the mandala of the Dhyani Buddhas.
- 1:38:26SPEAKER_01: And so I have introduced it And we'll continue in more length next week.
- 1:38:35SPEAKER_01: Here is your image.
- 1:38:38SPEAKER_01: Should you wish a screenshot?
- 1:38:41SPEAKER_01: Am I holding it straight?
- 1:38:43SPEAKER_01: I think so.
- 1:38:44SPEAKER_01: Let me double check on my
- 1:38:46SPEAKER_00: other screen.
- 1:38:53SPEAKER_00: There's a bit of lag in between the playbacks.
- 1:38:59SPEAKER_00: Yes, it looks fairly clear.
- 1:39:01SPEAKER_00: Hold it.
- 1:39:02SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 1:39:05SPEAKER_00: This has west at the top,
- 1:39:08SPEAKER_01: east at the bottom.
- 1:39:27SPEAKER_01: Contemplate being this mandala
- 1:39:32SPEAKER_01: and we will return again soon with more of this.
- 1:39:39SPEAKER_01: We are in the middle of seven working with the Dhyani Buddhas,
- 1:39:46SPEAKER_01: showing them and how they dance as the mandala which makes up you.
- 1:40:03SPEAKER_01: Maybe I won't sneeze.
- 1:40:25SPEAKER_02: Soha.
- 1:40:42SPEAKER_01: We are complete.
- 1:40:50SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 1:40:58SPEAKER_00: Okay, you are all fine.