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Turning Inner Conflict Into Everyday Peace | Barbara With · The Midlife Rebel Podcast

• 0:03
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the Midlife Rebel Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's time to rewrite the Midlife story.
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  SPEAKER_00: For women who refuse to be put in a box.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because maybe midlife isn't a crisis.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's an awakening.
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  SPEAKER_00: On the 12th of September 2025, so not that long ago, I released an episode with Mar uh with Barbara Wyth, the International Peace Activist award-winning author and seasoned psychic channel.
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  SPEAKER_00: Today she's back on Midlife Rebel with an update from her world tour for peace, and she's here to offer practical guidance on how each of us can play our part in creating a more peaceful world.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's great to have you back, Barbara.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thanks.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for being here.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_00: We were just having a quick chat off the record, but uh decided to jump straight in and get on the record.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I was telling you about the change of the name of the podcast Midlife Rebel, and you kind of asked, what's all that about?
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_00: And um I would love to get your insights because as I explained that, you know, for many of us women, we get put in a box.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um, well, all women get put in a box, you know.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_00: This you are at this age, and therefore, these are the things that you will be.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and you're a wise elder, you're in your early 70s, so you've got you've been through that entire experience.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so yeah, I would love to hear your insights on that as we kick off.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_01: Well, how interesting too.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_01: As I was just reflecting back on this, we're when I was talking to my family about when I turned 40.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_01: I was counting out the years, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: What was I doing and where was I?
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's amazing how different of a person I was.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, still the fullness and the richness of what was happening, but all of those midlife things that are changing and you're and you're having to let go of even like oh 30, you know, I'm not 30 anymore, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: So when you get to be 70, and I got to 60 and I felt the loosening of some of those chains, but when I got to 70, and that was this year I turned 70, okay, it was like I can't wait for the 70s because the amount of freedom and really not even it's like second nature now.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's second nature, I don't look at my tummy, you know, or worry about how my hair looks or any anything.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_01: I still worry about things, of course, but um I think if I had to look back and tell my midlife person some advice, I would really say don't miss a second, don't miss a moment of even every agonizing change, you know, having to let go of this, and who am I now then anyway?
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  SPEAKER_01: And because when you get to the other side of it and there's this fullness and richness of a it's kind of like a unity, you know, inside now from all of that resilience, you know, as we get older and we it the odds are counting down, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: We're going kind of towards the passage, and so you don't want to miss a moment.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's really interesting.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm in my early 50s, and I say to to women who are even just a couple of years younger, me younger than me, that haven't reached 50 yet, you start to begin to realize that although, yes, there is a process in that whole midlife journey, but you begin to realize that the first part is the warm-up, and that you really have time and space if you choose to um connect with it to pick the bits that you learn from, but that you don't want to keep anymore, as you said, and and and yeah, move into this whole new being, this whole new person.
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  SPEAKER_00: But as you you know go along, the the midlife basically keeps going, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's it starts at about 40 and it just keeps giving.
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  SPEAKER_00: It really does, and you get a great stretch, yeah, and you get that gift when you're in your 70s of being the wise elder, of sharing your wisdom with others.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and that is a necessary role for all of us in in our world as well.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, but we do get told that it's game over, don't we?
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, they try to do that all the way back, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you're gonna be 30.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, I remember the hand wringing I had about being 30, and the and then, but when you get to be this age and you think, I got this far, you know, I got I got this far because what else is the alternative?
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_01: And then so now just not caring.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just you know, I just don't care.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_01: I don't care what you think of me, I don't care to chase the rats who are racing, and uh yeah.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_01: So that anyway, that would be my advice is just don't miss up any bit of it because 50, 50, that sounds young to me.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I guess I am old enough to be your mother.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_01: Just yeah, yeah, I just and I sure don't feel it.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_01: Like I we had talked earlier, is that if 70 is midlife, then you're reading my mind about the work that I've been doing on longevity, and okay, I don't necessarily want to live forever like my associate Heike.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_01: She's like, we're gonna live until we're 500, and you know, we won't have to worry about our hair or skin.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like I don't know if I want to live that long, but I would like to see how long a good lifestyle, a spiritual connection, um, all of the work that I do with conflict revolution adds to my youth and longevity.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so far, so good, I think.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_01: I think I'm doing pretty darn good.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_00: You are, you're cracking, you're killing it.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, love longevity is a big one for me as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think I had um my children late in life.
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  SPEAKER_00: So my eldest is only 11 and my little girl is nine.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I was in my early 40s, and I think I need I need to be like pushing a hundred so that if they decide to have kids that late in life, I actually get to experience them, and I want to be in good health to do that.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's one of the reasons.
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  SPEAKER_00: But again, I just want to see what's possible if you have a good life, as you said, and take care of yourself and yeah, have a have a good spiritual connection as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's possible, people are doing it.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's happening more.
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  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, 500 might be a bit of a push, but I'm not putting a cap, I'm not putting a cap on it either.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I don't want to go, oh well, I made it to 100.
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  SPEAKER_00: Game over.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_00: Time to go.
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  SPEAKER_00: Time to go.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, so great.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_00: Love it.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_00: Let's get stuck into what have you been up to?
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_00: Because you're on this, um you're on your world tour still.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_00: It is this gonna be a lifelong endeavor now?
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_00: This is just gonna be you.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_01: You know, this term my world peace tour uh came about because I do a lot of traveling.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_01: I have through my whole life teaching and training and doing all of this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Of course, during COVID, we all switched to Zoom, which was advantageous in a way, because here we are.
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  SPEAKER_01: We would have been here, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I am thankful for that.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_01: But after that happened, I looked at my life and I was getting into my late 60s, and I thought, I don't, time's a ticking.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, what am I gonna do with the rest of my life?
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_01: And it's a different thing you ask yourself when you're pushing into 70 than when I asked myself when I was pushing into 50.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_01: It just has a whole different depth and shortness, you know, and there's this sort of arrogance.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_01: I think when you're 50, you still think you're gonna live forever, or that whole thing.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_01: And and I just thought I have this incredible body of work that I've been working on since I've been old enough to remember.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I want to dedicate my life to it.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's the world needs it, it's brilliant, it works.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm living proof of the of that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so I quit all my little day jobs that I had that supported me and have thrown everything into this work.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I thought now that it's over, I want to leave home again and travel.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_01: I'm uh I was in rock and roll when I was young and I traveled constantly.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_01: I just have been on the road forever.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_01: So being on the road, so I kind of borrowed from like the road trip tour.
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  SPEAKER_01: You you'd go out on a road trip and you'd give it a name, you know, the whatever.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, so I thought this is the world peace tour.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be the rest of my life, it's gonna be wherever I go, however, I do it, whoever I'm talking to.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_01: So a couple when I launched it, I ended up uh I was pet sitting across the UK for three months.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_01: And that was a tour.
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  SPEAKER_01: And everywhere I went, I could have these conversations about because people want peace.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_01: People want to know what in the world is going on and and what can we do about it.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_01: So uh, and it's led me just it's been there's so many stories, but the big one was last summer when I spoke at the Science of Consciousness conference in Barcelona and revealed all of the work I'd done channeling Einstein and the research that we'd done and the unified field theories, and coming away feeling like that is so affirming to my work.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_01: People took to it, they were cheering, yes, it's a black hole.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they're just it's like things that years ago I would have been like, what are you talking about?
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_01: People were, you know, so so now I'm I've shifted into a different gear with it, and it has to do with these conversations that we have, that we elevate, that we change the energy just by having them.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's it's we all love to have followers and listeners, however, I'm all about having the conversation and changing it from an energetic point of view with my elder energy, just like many, many, many years ago when I first started channeling Einstein in the 90s, and he was saying the center of the earth is a black hole, and um, it's the source, and it's like the world sort of grew up around those ideas, and now they're accepted.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_01: So, what we're doing now is laying the groundwork for seven, seven more generations ahead of us.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_01: If we're talking about waiting for your grandkids, yeah, you know, and uh, and that's that's really been my focus.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_01: So I have started, I'm just in the process of starting my own podcast, even though I have I publish on YouTube, I have for years.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not an influencer, I don't chase clicks, I just have a library.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_01: And it's it's kind of funny that I sort of pride myself on my 247 followers.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like I know each one of them is there because they they found it and they made the choice and they wanted to be there.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_01: So, and it's not a money-making thing in that way for me, it's really about that library.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_01: And I was approached by a gentleman in New York City who is uh he's a pro bono lawyer for people on a mission.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_01: He found me and uh he invited me to entertain the idea of having a radio show on New York FM.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_02: Cool.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so I've been in negotiations with him for several six, seven, eight weeks.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_01: We've been talking back and forth, and should it be this and that?
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_01: I've been being introduced to other radio show hosts I might have co-hosting with, talking about sponsorships and such.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_01: And I just decided, you know what, I'm just gonna do a prototype.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I decided after all the stuff it came down, um, it's all about this is what I do.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_01: I channel Einstein, and the answers are so brilliant, and they've never failed.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm calling it Let's Ask Barb.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_01: Because you know, when you have those burning questions about like parallel universes or the meaning of gods and goddesses, or what is synchronicity, or you know, all of those kinds of wild ideas.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, you ask me.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I've done my first prototype episode.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_01: I'm so excited because I'm also a musician and a composer, so I get to use my own music, you know, within the production of the show.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_01: And it really showed me my capacity after all these years of uh being able to produce a show completely, you know, the editing and the scoring and the whole thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: So so I hope you would come on.
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  SPEAKER_01: I would absolutely love to.
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  SPEAKER_01: And be I'm calling you I'm calling them questionnaires.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, questionnaires, you know, like imagineers or engineers.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's like all of us who just can't stop asking the questions, which is what we need to be doing.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I actually um I was in the car yesterday with my daughter, and I was like, I've I'm speaking with a lady tomorrow, Barbara, and um she's got a podcast, so we we put it on.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_00: I was only allowed to listen to half of it because you know she's nine.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I listened to it and and it did get me thinking, um, well, there's a couple of things I wondered.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_00: Firstly, it was interesting to hear you because you were channeling, but I don't know what I expected, whether I expected there to be a you know a line sort of drawn in the sand where you go, okay, I'm gonna channel now, and and but it just flowed quite naturally.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_00: So all of the things you were saying, they weren't yours.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_00: Is that how it works?
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_01: I I I don't know quite where we draw the line if we're all one.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_01: Right, you know, okay, yeah.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_01: And when I started learning about channeling, I was in high school and my friend's mom was a channel.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I'd never seen anybody else do such a thing.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um and then when I became a channel, I did it that way too, where she would close her.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_01: She actually never remembered anything she said, but I I would remember.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_01: But then the the channeling, which at the time were angels, said, We're going to teach Barb to channel with her eyes open.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_01: And I said, my response was, This is the 40-year-old me.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: What what are you talking about?
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not channeling with my eyes open.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I thought they meant that I would like sit on stage and say, okay, now we're going to channel, and then I'd have my eyes open while I was doing this thing where I looked, you know, like, but they meant that that there's a fluidity about it with me now, after all of a lifetime, I guess, of doing it.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_01: That are they my ideas?
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm sure I'm in there somewhere.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_01: But I I love the mystery of whenever because people will say to me, You were just talking, but I think you were channeling.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like, probably.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe, maybe, but what does that mean?
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: I've just I've created this condition in my life to be merged with some divine intelligence that shows up to me as Einstein and the party and the angels.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_01: But um, what a mystery.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, it's great to have that perspective, actually, isn't it?
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we talked about it a little bit um the last time we talked about that kind of you know, claiming it as your own and the these amazing theories that you've come you've brought into the world.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but actually not claiming them as your own, claiming them or you know, presenting them as Einstein's work.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um that's that's a pretty bold move, isn't it?
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like to actually not yeah, not just take it as your own and go, hey, look at how good I am.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_01: I I think so.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_01: And I and I but I also think that early on when I started to channel with groups with Kim and Teresa and the psychic sorority and we did groups, um there was such a sense of we were all discovering, it was very separated.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it was clearly this was not Barb.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_01: Because I was a really kind of an arrogant, I had a lot of rage, and I mean I had issues when we all started.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_01: We all had issues, we all have issues, but it clearly it wasn't.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_01: But as I myself have used the information, I think that's that's what I claim is that the three of us took that information and because they were telling us this process to resolve inner conflict that was going to lead to our wildest dreams coming true, and um so we took it and we worked it, and that's where I started to become that kind of a workaholic.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like I always tell people when they're learning how to do this process, you don't have to stop being obsessive, you just have to be obsessive about the things that you have control of that are yours to be obsessive about.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you know those people who keep their cars like pristine and they're always, you know, tuned up and they're everything's clean.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: You can that that when we do that about ourselves, worlds explode into creativity and and healing and manifestation and abundance, and and not that we stop feeling deeply and have to, you know, deal with a constant array of emotion of anxiety and anger, but when we learn how to use it and channel it, how to deal with emotion and in really a regenerative creative way, it becomes our fuel.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_01: And then everything changes.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's gonna be a good segue into talking more about how people can get this work practically into their lives.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, one thing that came up for me quickly before when you were talking about that was I feel like there's well, we've heard about the the dawning of the age of Aquarius since the 1960s, right?
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_00: This the the musical came out and there were songs about it, but it's actually started to happen in terms of the planetary shifts that have um been going on astrologically.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: And And it's there's a change in the way that we work as humans together.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like your work as a a gift, like you you haven't taken it as your own and gone, you know, I'm gonna run with this and it's gonna be mine, and I'm gonna be famous and uh, you know, make all the money.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, you've actually um chosen to share it as a way of changing the world, and that I feel is a real true reflection of how humans are evolving gradually into this new age, and it's something that's quite unfamiliar to a lot of us, to most of us, um, because there's always that you know, exchange.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_00: What am I gonna get out of it?
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: How much am I gonna make?
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: And and you're a living example of like the the shift that is happening.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think it's interesting because I started out wanting to be a rock star.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_01: You know, from the time I was little, I just was gonna be a rock star, and I actually composed all this music and went out on the road at 17 and won all these awards, but that wasn't what my destiny was.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_01: But I did have that drive, and it's really been in the past few years where I've been able to look back and see how many times I've stayed true to what I think this mission is about, which is not to get me to be rich and famous, but to teach people how to do this incredible, uh simple, effective process.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_01: And they used to tell us the angels used to say, just tell your story and get out of the way.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_01: Because I think once you hear the story of Einstein and how he came from afterlife through me, what the work that we all did, everything, it's it's like you can't unsee it.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: You cannot understand fully what it means, or you might not think it much of it, but you you've already seen it.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_01: Once you see the map of human consciousness in the unified field, and you hear about what conflict revolution is, very simple process, and I think it's designed to be so conflict revolution is designed to be so rudimental that it fits, it sort of fits under things, it fits under Christianity, you know, if it fits under uh legal systems, it fits under political things.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's sort of meant to have you take it and use it exactly as you would use it personally, you design it for yourself, and that's throws people off.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_01: People who want to be led and told, you know, here it is.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, no, you're the creator, but it gives you enough structure to sort of and and ultimately we are teaching you how to be your own coach, how you coach yourself.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_01: No, we all need help, of course, in life.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_01: The community, we're talking about new ways to have community, but ultimately, when we become the master of our own vehicle, um, that's that's the change I think that we're we're talking about here, the age of Aquarius.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_00: So on your website, you um have a 21-day conflict revolution challenge.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: And I thought we, to be honest, when we spoke last time, my mind was being blown left, right, and center.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_00: And I I think I was a bit like, uh I can't grasp all of the things.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_01: Imagine being me.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and we didn't really kind of get to the practicality of it, and I'm and I would love for you to share a little bit about how we can go on go onto your website, get that 21-day conflict revolution challenge download, um, what's the best material to support it and that sort of thing.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_00: And I was wondering when I was um thinking about this, would you call it practical woo-woo or practical science?
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_00: Because I love practicality.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_00: I love like, well, how am I going to get this into my life?
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_00: But I was like, well, is it woo-woo or is it science?
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_01: You know, that's the beauty of it.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_01: It is it's both.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's a unified field theory, it covers both, and it's woo-woo because of how it came about.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_01: Truly, it can only be woo.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_01: In fact, when I first started training it in the 90s, I had a whole made-up story about where it came from because I couldn't walk into a corporation or a business and go, Well, I channel this for my uh the angels, whatever.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_01: So, but it's also the science in the sense of after the angels were teaching us how to make peace amongst ourselves, then Einstein stepped up, and that's when I started channeling the unified field and the maps of human consciousness.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_01: So when you see that, which is very science-y, and the scientists who see it are absolutely intrigued, because there's everything on it, but it shows the theory of why the woo-woo works.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: Why, when they told us this very simple process, which is you know, you can go on barberwith.com and right on the corner click on the downloads and get some free stuff, but it's very simple.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's really very simple.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_01: I think it fits in with many, many, many practices around the world because it stems from this unified field.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_01: And it's that we have three human dimensions intellect, intuition, and emotion in the solar plexus.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_01: And then we have a witness to be able to observe our our own, how our own operating systems.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_01: So you make a the decision that you're gonna observe your like you're looking at your car, like how's the car running?
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_01: And there's certain ways that emotion, intuition, and intellect work together like parts of a car or parts, and then we go from there in learning.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_01: We sort of we learn this completely different way to deal with emotion, completely just overturns all of psychology.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: We learn about what happens in the intellect, what's going on, what are the definitions, what it what is the um uh um descriptions and the ego, and then we learn what is it to follow intuition?
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_01: How does that work?
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_01: And so in it's and you can see even in that short description, different belief systems and understandings and how it all works, and the crucial point that no one can do but you is are you gonna do it?
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_01: Are you gonna do it?
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_01: And you can have the best process in the world.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: That's why people they learn process after process after it's not that you don't know the process, it's that you don't know how to make yourself do the process that you know, and that's like a different skill set.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_01: And what I like about this process is that you see immediately, you get immediate results uh results.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_01: Once you see yourself, because you're observing yourself, doing the things your intellect is telling you somebody else is doing to you, you know.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_01: We get so mad.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_01: Well, they just don't respect me.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, okay, let's revolve that around.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_01: You don't respect yourself, let's watch and see the decisions that you're actually making that are not listening to your intuition.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_01: And we all do it, you know, intuition says rest.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_01: Your body says, Rest.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_01: And then um your head says, I can't rest, I've got a hundred things to do.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_01: So you it's that's what I mean, it's hard to unsee it, yeah.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_00: And it's so logical once you've been in that process and you use it consistently, it's just becomes uh second nature, I I would assume.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_01: It really does.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_00: It really does.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_00: Can you explain a little bit more about the intellect versus emotion versus intuition?
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_00: Break and um stepping outside of yourself.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if every does everyone do that and anyone can but can you can you touch on each of those a little bit?
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_00: Because they're all sort of they're important to understand, aren't they?
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_00: As part of the entire process.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_01: There's they they are our sort of key areas that are ours to be in charge of.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_01: No one else can think your thoughts, no one else can feel your feelings, no one else can figure tell you what your intuition is telling you.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_01: And when we separate them out, just like you know, you have a heart, you've got a kidney, you've got a liver, everything works together.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_01: So, and we put them physically so that when you're starting out and you're going, oh, you wake up tomorrow and you're going, Oh, Barb said, you know, I'm supposed to watch myself.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_01: What am I looking for?
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you're looking at your solar plexus where your emotion, that's where it, you know, roils, you're feeling into your heart where intuition is going to be heard, and then you're paying attention to the thinking processes that are, you know, you know, constantly racka racca.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_01: And the idea is in a when we're aligned to compassion, as we call it, because we compassion is basically the God energy, the fundamental force of the universe, we are feeling all of our feelings.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_01: And probably the biggest difference here is that we want to feel everything, we need to move everything through our bodies because it's been suppressed too long.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_01: We've been, like you said, we're told you can't be angry, you can't do this.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_01: No, no.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_01: So, in order to do that, we train people how to just use it with breath.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_01: And we're so used to having our intellects say and define, well, I'm mad because so and so did this, and that's all intellectual, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_01: That's not really feeling and moving.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_01: So we do that with our breath.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_01: And if yeah, I always tell people, if you can't stop that squirrel in your head, right?
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_01: Think, think, think, just re redirect to a different.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I don't need to know why I feel this.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_01: I just need to sit here and breathe.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_01: That's all I need to do right now.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_01: So then by doing that, we incite intuition.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_01: When we feel all our feelings and let them move through our body, then intuition gets stronger to impel us.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_01: So intuition is the small impelling statement or movement telling us the next most advantageous step for the good of this whole situation, which the voice of God knows, but our intellects don't.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_01: So we're moving this, and you know, maybe there's this anxiety, right?
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_01: Let's say that.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_01: And intuition says, rest, and then it gets the intellect where the ego is, and this is what actually controls the decision-making process.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_01: If you're going to turn to the right, it's the intellect that grabs the steering wheel and turns to the right.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_01: And um, and not the you know, intuition can be telling you to turn right, but it's the intellect that actually makes the free will decision, and that it has been given this power to say no to intuition, to say, no, I'm not going to rest.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm not going to turn right.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_01: And right there, that is the root of Einstein says every conflict that manifests on the planet.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's not that's it's the intellect running amok, as they'd say in Australia.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's running amok.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, it's where all the trouble begins.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's just that's it.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_01: And so as you as you see this about yourself, and even when you're we always say we do the work while while we're you know stuck in traffic or standing in line at the supermarket, because that's where you have time to go.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, well, wait a minute.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_01: What am I thinking?
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_01: What am I feeling?
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_01: What is intuition telling me?
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_01: What's what's going on with all that?
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_01: And uh it's it's amazing when you well, they say if you observe the um experiment that it changes, changes the outcomes.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_00: Is that the um coming out of your well, I'm gonna say coming out of your body and looking from outside.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that that's kind of those moments I find often, you know, I'll be just going about my everyday, and and then I'll just go, oh, this is kind of cool or weird, or like all of these people and cars and things going on around.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_00: How weird this whole thing is, and the fact that we create all of that as well, don't we?
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_00: Through our yeah, yeah, it's all a bit mind-blowing, Barbara.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_01: I know at any point it's kind of fun as well.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um, okay, yeah, I could just carry on having my mind blown, but let's try and get practical so that so that our people can go away and go, all right, well, how do I actually what how do I actually get this done?
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_00: And I've I'm just opening up the um the download that you um have on your website um to take us through the steps of what it is um to begin conflict revolution within ourselves.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I wanted to ask a question actually about conflict because one of the first things is to identify a conflict that's happening in your life.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I wondered, I don't have any conflict really that's happening, you know, on a day-to-day basis.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: For example, I don't fight with my husband or or whatever.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I have some things that I've had conflict about in the past that probably probably the other person doesn't even realize is still a thing for me, but it's a thing for me.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_00: So would that count as a conflict?
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_00: That was a question, and also just that inner conflict, you know, the psycho babble, do this, don't do that.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_00: Does that count as conflict as well?
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, good.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_01: So I got some conflict going on, yeah.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_01: And and this very simple way that we define it, that identify it, is the trigger, it's the emotional trigger.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_01: So the emotional trigger is the well, as the angel said, it's like somebody pouring a little salt on your wound, you know.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_01: There's this, mmm, and then usually what happens is because it's an emotional reaction, there's also intellectual triggers.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_01: So stories, yes.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_01: So you know how we have patterns from our childhood that just grow up with us, and so an emotion comes up, there's an automatic trigger, and generally it has to do with something outside ourselves as the source of this, you know, when we get mad, somebody comes in and says something, and we get triggered, and we start to say, Well, they just don't respect me, and how dare they insult me.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_01: And so there's all these stories that start to get generated by that emotional trigger.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_01: So carry on.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_01: No, that so yeah, so you you have uh um an emotional trigger about something that's you know, two sides in your head, right?
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_01: Doesn't have to even be your husband or anybody outside you, uh because conflict is a natural part of the operating system.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, it's just it's it has to be.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_01: Conflict is what triggers the creativity, right?
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_00: How does fear play into that?
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_00: Because there's this whole sort of uh, I don't know, tribal um behavior that we have where we might want to do something and the fear can be the one that sort of comes in and says, don't do that, it's not safe, you know, and yeah, all the self-talk going on.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_00: So is that would you consider that conflict and how does that relate to fear?
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_00: Is that intellect as well?
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_01: Well, there are it again, if we're taking the three human dimensions, there are fearful thoughts, yes, and then there is fear, the the raw feeling of fear itself.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_01: And the way we look at emotion is the raw feeling of fear itself is we want to move that through our bodies.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, we don't and we don't want it to attach itself to the fearful thoughts, yes, like here comes the fear, the anxiety.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, I'm not gonna have enough money next week.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so the fearful, so but we don't want to stop the movement of the fear in the flow of emotion, we just want to stop it from feeding those fearful thoughts.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_01: And what's interesting is that, and this is kind of counterintuitive in a way, but because there's no judgment about any of the range of emotion, emotion is this sacred fuel, it's our connection to our source, it's our very God energy itself that's you know informing our intuition and creating the world.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_01: So we don't want to not flow it through us.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_01: But if we can get to a point, which is and I finally, after all these years, can kind of do this where when I'm in that really deep anxiety, I just went through this last week.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_01: I had these couple days of just deep anxiety, and it was sort of money related, and and but when we use our breath to move our emotion and let it fuel a positive, powerful, abundant thought.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it does the the fear itself isn't what creates the victimization and the da-da-da.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_01: It's when it marries itself to the thoughts that project and then you know, outsource the well, they're making me feel this this way.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_01: Way.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_01: But when it and that's what I did, I had this sort of mantra of you know, feeling and breathing and crying, but going, you know, I have nothing but abundance here.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_01: And sure enough, just synchronicity after synchronicity, providing what I what I need, and then I can calm down and the fear can subside.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_01: So it's but this is this is work.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_01: This is people have to want to, or I think part of it is we get pushed into a corner where we have to, we have to change.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_01: We've all been there, yes.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we get sick enough or enough conflict, and you're forced.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that that um really made made sense and um gave me some clarity around that.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_00: I love that, but it's it's the presence, isn't it?
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_00: It's taking the time, it's having that awareness, what is actually going on rather than getting caught up in the oh, I'm angry again, or oh, I'm anxious again, or whatever the feeling is.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um and yeah, using that breath to ground you in presence so that you can let that feeling move through you, but you can also change the thought that's associated with it.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_01: And it's it's it's a tremendous amount of present moment commitment.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and isn't that what we're we're trying to do anyway?
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, and I think sometimes people hear, well, we just live in prison, if we just live in present moment, and it's like, yes, but sometimes present moment is tremendously painful.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_01: We have to move pain and anxiety through our bodies, but as we do it, something happens.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_01: There's this solidification that takes place when we accept all of our emotions, we learn how to love them and move them and channel them into regenerative ways.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_01: There's this inner strength and unity that takes place that's that's really amazing.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_01: I I it's not like I knew when I started out on this journey, right?
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_00: How this was all gonna turn out, but it's probably just a little bit of fun learning how to channel when you're in high school, wasn't it?
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yeah.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_01: He tried to tell me, I guess, but yeah.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_00: All right, so let's um get an example here so that um our listeners can kind of start to get a bit of a an idea of how the process works.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_00: So step one is naming your conflict, isn't it?
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, step one.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_00: So naming your conflict.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_00: Let uh can we okay?
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_00: I'll give an example.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um it's not a big one, but it definitely could turn into one.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_00: My daughter's nine, she's starting to become a bit resistant.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_00: We homeschool, she's starting to become a bit resistant to her homework, and we have had some kind of uh butting of heads.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_00: So there's my there's my conflict.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: Because I have noticed, I have noticed the um my internal dialogue being, well, she needs to do as she's told, and then there's a little bit of do I really want to ruin my relationship over home?
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_00: We froze for a moment there.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_00: Did you get that?
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_01: Do you really want to butt heads over homework?
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_01: Do we so what I would what would you call it?
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_00: Butting of heads, butting of heads, yeah.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_01: Because that will encompass any head butting, not just head butting with your daughter.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yeah, true.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_01: So what we do is we separate out the story.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so there's the emotion, there's the there's the intellect of it.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like usually one or two sound bites of parboiling down.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_01: What is the thing that's pissing you off the most about your daughter and her resistance?
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_01: Just as simple as a statement as you can get it, because you know the intellect will go on and on and on and on, and we get lost.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_01: So we create these little tiny, like um, I had one conflict, I called it the drunken marketing manager.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_01: And I worked for this woman at work, and she was always giving, I didn't work for her, but she was always giving me work to do and then complaining about it.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so it took me a couple of weeks to get the soundbite because it just was so infuriating.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_01: She makes me do her work, and then she criticizes me for it.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_01: That that was really the heart of what bugged me the most about it, that she made me do her work and then she criticized me when I did it.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_01: So find that sound bite.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_01: What is it about your daughter's stubbornness?
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_00: Uh there's a couple of things.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's the the old parenting story, you know, a child should do as they're told.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_00: There's a bit of that.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_00: I feel that I'm quite fair, and so um it seems unfair that she is responding in this way, and probably a little bit of my responsibility as a homeschooling parent, making sure that she gets it done.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, some I don't know what the word would be.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if it's anxiety, but some kind of like we need to get it done.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_00: This is part of my role.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_01: We need to get it done.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_01: Must have people.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_01: We need to get it done.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's very me.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, all right.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_01: So we need to get it done.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_01: The butting of heads, we need to get oh, this could be any of us.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_01: I mean me.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, then we just identify the emotion of it without reasoning, without this is why, blah, blah, blah.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_01: Just the frustration.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_01: What I'm I don't want to tell you what your emotion is, but you know, anger.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, yeah, frost it's frustration, a little bit of anger.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_00: Not I don't I don't blow up.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_00: I can feel it boiling though.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_01: So there's the emotion, and then there's what you do with the emotion.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_01: So you have the emotion, but you're not doing anything with it, right?
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_01: Which is, you know, good.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so the so the emotion, the it's gotta get it done, and then we reach in to speculate what intuition might be impelling you to do in this situation for for the drunken marketing manager.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um my intuition was impelling me to get some help, call a friend, and keep working the process.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_01: That's all I, you know.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_01: So I ended up calling a friend saying, I don't I don't understand.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_01: I don't understand what's going on here.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_01: So intuitively, you're thinking about the oh the roiling, hmm, you're thinking about the hmm.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_01: Take a breath and just kind of feel into it.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what would intuition the next step be to do for the good of the whole?
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_00: For the good of the whole spend some time with my daughter and not worry about the homework would be my intuition.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, and if you could, you know scrunch it down into you know, like be there, be there, yeah.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so so now there's three parts.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_01: One is whatever the roiling anger is to use that breath work while it's happening.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_01: Now you'll have a little, now you'll have a sound, we'll get to the intellect in a second, but now you'll have a little sound bite when you're in it next, when you get it's like, and you're like, oh well, um, and what was the soundbite?
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_01: Let's get it done.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_01: So maybe the revolution of that, we're gonna revolve that to, and this is the kind of the arty feeling into things.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what does that really mean if you revolve it?
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_01: Let's get it done, let's not get it done.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_01: Ah, okay.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_01: Let's just go spend some time.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_01: And then and and feeling that, and you can already you can already feel that I can anyway, that this is shifted already.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_01: Like, if you were to do that in the times where she's butting heads, it's not like she wouldn't learn what you eventually needed to teach her.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_01: You know, if that were if that were to be the case.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_01: But now we're we're taking into account that the next time it happens and you take that breath, intuition is gonna tell you then what to do.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's not necessarily gonna be that thing that we thought today, but it's gonna be there for you know, maybe it'll tell you, keep pushing.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_01: You know, maybe she needs to learn, and maybe it's gonna say, Oh, back off.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_01: But the more you're in tune with this, to be able to let that then guide your intuition, who's now it's this emotion is not fueling this.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_01: You've cut it off, you're gonna feel and breathe it and move it over here.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_01: And so this is even less powerful, and it it's ready to make the decision that intuition intuition is gonna tell you to make rather than trying to, you know, we're not gonna rest.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna keep pushing.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_00: Do you find um that people have patterns with the same feelings um and the way that they think about them?
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_00: And so this is like the the pattern interrupt.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_01: Honestly, there's only about two conflicts in the whole world.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_01: Really, I mean, it's and it it has to do with conflicts don't happen necessarily when you're in your in your joy and all aligned.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_01: So the one conflict is um the denial of emotion.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we were all had patterns, especially us women, where we were denied and not taught how to feel.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_01: And then when that gets into your intellect, the projections, you know, year after year, that we're we create the same victimization, you know, the pattern plays out, and so we break that pattern this in this way, and get a kind of immediate people.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_01: Can get immediate like aha moments by because nothing is going to change you as deeply as when you f catch yourself in the act of making a decision, because even though it's the pattern, you're still deciding to do it, and then deciding not to do it.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_01: That is the ultimate rudimental transformation that we can have and and and systemic, so it it it doesn't repeat, you know.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that makes so much sense.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_00: When so if we're doing this um 21-day challenge, are we kind of going through all of the emotions as they come up?
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_00: And it um obviously, I guess depending on where someone is in their journey, um that big the self-awareness piece is the first step, isn't it?
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_00: Just stepping out of yourself, looking at the situation and and and then breaking it down into those parts, like what am I feeling, what am I thinking about that feeling, and and shifting it.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_00: So would you suggest that that's what we do over a 21-day period?
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_01: And that's that kind of habit-changing exactly that's why, that's why it's because once you do it, you you can't undo it.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_01: Once you start taking control and you find this, it's self-love.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, it's the self-love that we've been looking for, and the ego doesn't like it.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_01: The ego's gonna kick up a whole bunch of junk.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_01: My ego is still kicks up stupid stuff, and and not nearly as much.
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_01: I I kind of have in my head, I call it a panic room, right?
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_01: Or can sit in my ego when it's like, wait a minute, we're gonna do what?
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_01: It's like go ahead, but uh yeah, and uh, and then I as I said, what keeps you going is the results that you get.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_01: That the relationships start to deepen, you start to relax, even just everybody in this world today is so stressed out.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_01: I don't care who you are or where you are, the world is so stressed out.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_01: So just every now, and again, take that space of a breath where oh okay, yeah, it goes a long way.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_00: We do get exposed, well, we are all exposed to so much in the world, aren't we?
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_00: And it can feel very overwhelming and feel like life is out of our control.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_00: Whereas a practice like this is really a step to taking some control over our piece of the our piece of the what the pre the our puzzle piece.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_00: We're we're each puzzle pieces that connect to the whole, aren't we?
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_00: So so this is yeah, taking taking a step towards making a change.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I love that kind of idea of that reframe of it starts with us, because we can't it can also be a little bit like, well, there's so much going on in the world and there's nothing I can do about it.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_00: But in fact, this is saying, Well, yes, you can.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_00: And if everyone did this, then how different our lives.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_01: Let's say, how different our lives are gonna be when we all start doing this, and people are, even if it's not officially conflict revolution, uh everywhere I go, people are just like bing, bing, bing, of course, oh, this makes so much sense, and yes, and uh as we do it and it contributes to the peace ripples, peace out from inner to outer macro.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I think it's why getting back to the beginning of the conversation where I was saying I'm not an influencer, and I I'm not, of course, I charge for my readings and I sell books, but I don't chase that and I don't chase that fame.
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_01: I think because all those years I was chasing the fame and had to be the rock star, I was looking for this inside me.
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_01: And the thing that I trust now, because I didn't used to trust anybody or the world, is me.
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_01: That I have learned how to have control of my emotion, and I can get up in the day and go, you know, I'm gonna make this day really great for myself and then the people around me.
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_01: And I can go out in public and I can like I get this kick out of just being kind to people, like random people and line at the supermarket and just being bubbly and happy and when I can.
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_01: And that's such a difference of living life.
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_01: And at the end of my life, am I gonna go, God, why didn't why wasn't I that rock star?
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_01: Darn, I don't think so.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_00: You've still got some life in you, you might become a rock star.
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm thinking.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_01: We never do it.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_00: Breaking the rules.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_00: We're breaking the rules, exactly.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, I love this.
• 58:25
  SPEAKER_00: What's happening in your world as we um come into 2026?
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_00: Are you continuing on your tour?
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_00: Do you take, do you um go and do presentations, or is this really about living your life and spreading the word just through the people you meet and the podcasts you do and your new podcast?
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_01: It's a little bit of everything.
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_01: I uh I travel to uh do, I like to do small groups.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_01: I um so I do that.
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I I we've I've been traveling quite a bit in the past couple of years.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but um I think right now, uh in 2026, I'm gonna concentrate on the podcast.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_01: I'm also gonna do a I want to start doing a book club because I've got some really interesting books and Party of 12, the afterlife interviews, yeah, which is where I met Einstein.
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_01: As it's 20, it'll be 25 years, the 25th anniversary of of that uh historic book.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna re-release that and do a book club so we can read it.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_01: And that way I can also I'll have the material to be able to publish my audio books with me reading them.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, great.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_01: Because that's such a it's such a huge job to do.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_01: But I thought if I had a book club and people are interested in these, we I can read and then we can discuss uh chapter by chapter and just have some fun.
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_01: And I've got some more classes coming up next year.
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_01: Right now, I'm working on a how to live an intuitively driven life, and it's just been phenomenal.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_01: And I love I love teaching in small groups, yeah.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_01: And and also the we'll see if I get on to New York FM radio.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm finagling, I'm hoping to see if that will be something.
• 1:00:15
  SPEAKER_01: I uh my dream is to put the let's ask Barb show on a midnight and have it be remember coast to coast and it was on late.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_00: No, but I remember other yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it was yeah.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_01: And uh and then just keep intending because the more I intend and the happier I get with myself, the more amazing things happen to me.
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_01: So
• 1:00:41
  SPEAKER_00: One last question from me in regard to to your work um and you, Barbara, and and the journey you're on, is do you ever ask your angels or Einstein um to help you out with those kind of things?
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like the can they give you insight or guidance as into the direction you're going?
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_00: For example, the the um the radio show.
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_00: Can you say, can you give me a hand?
• 1:01:11
  SPEAKER_01: Or I do.
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_01: I I I remember one particular ask was my I my my washer broke at one point.
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I didn't have enough money to replace it.
• 1:01:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I and I've never been a very wealthy person, which is just fine with me.
• 1:01:33
  SPEAKER_01: I'm abundant and wealthy, but and I said, Why?
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_01: Why?
• 1:01:39
  SPEAKER_01: If I you know I know all the secrets of the universe and I'm supposed to be able to manifest and and I don't have the money for a washer and why?
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_01: And and he said, Because if you had money, you'd go buy a washer.
• 1:01:53
  SPEAKER_01: Now you have to manifest a washer.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, and I said, Well, I just think that's just a cruel trick, you know.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_01: And then about three hours later, a guy friend of mine who is a property manager called up and said, Hey, I just replaced the washer in the my unit, and I got this one.
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_01: Can I come over and install it too?
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, how cool.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_01: And just recently, it was the the last week with the with the anxiety and stuff, and it's like you have to ask.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_01: That's what that's what I heard from them.
• 1:02:31
  SPEAKER_01: And then it was like, alright, you want me to ask?
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I'd go on my walk and like please, I need this, you know.
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'm asking for that, I'm asking for help.
• 1:02:41
  SPEAKER_01: And and every time I'd ask, something would happen, and it was answered.
• 1:02:50
  SPEAKER_01: So I think by uh this Thanksgiving, I'm just so I'm so excited about life.
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_01: I'm so optimistic about the world, even though it looks like it's falling apart.
• 1:03:03
  SPEAKER_01: I just think we're on the cusp of this incredible transformation that we're part of.
• 1:03:09
  SPEAKER_01: We get to kind of push it forward.
• 1:03:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_00: Barbara, this has been such a great conversation.
• 1:03:16
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so glad that you were able to join me for a second time.
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'm looking forward to coming on to um your podcast as well.
• 1:03:23
  SPEAKER_00: That would be good.
• 1:03:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I'll have to think of some juicy questions.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um thank you so much.
• 1:03:29
  SPEAKER_00: Enjoy your Thanksgiving celebrations with your friends and loved ones.
• 1:03:35
  SPEAKER_00: And um, yeah, I look forward to catching up with you again soon.
• 1:03:39
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you too, Nadine.
• 1:03:41
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• 1:03:43
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• 1:03:48
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• 1:03:57
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