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Episode 103: Healing Gets Easier When You Do Less · Heal Yourself Podcast

0:01
SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the Heal Yourself Podcast, where we dive deep into all things healing.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm Kira, a traditional naturopath and functional nutritionist.
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SPEAKER_00: And I'm Denise, the speechly pathologist and the self-life coach for adults and teens.
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SPEAKER_00: And we are here to guide you through the transformative process of healing your body, mind, and soul.
0:21
SPEAKER_01: Which means we're not staying in one way.
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SPEAKER_01: One episode, we're diving the mechanical nervous system.
0:28
SPEAKER_00: And the next, we're unpacking identity frequency a whatever story for realizing we've been attached to that week.
0:36
SPEAKER_01: Because your body was never separate from the rest of you.
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SPEAKER_01: The gut, the nervous system, the story you carry about who you are.
0:42
SPEAKER_01: It's all one conversation.
0:44
SPEAKER_00: Honestly.
0:45
SPEAKER_00: Think of it less like a polished podcast and more like sitting in on a conversation between two besties who happen to also be obsessed with healing.
0:53
SPEAKER_01: So pull up a seat, no spiritual bypassing, no toxic positivity, just the truth about what it actually takes to come home to yourself.
1:02
SPEAKER_01: Your body already knows the way.
1:04
SPEAKER_00: Let's go remember it together.
1:20
SPEAKER_01: And yay! But sometimes we have a guest.
1:26
SPEAKER_00: You're right, you're right.
1:27
SPEAKER_00: You're right.
1:30
SPEAKER_01: You're so nice.
1:32
SPEAKER_01: Well, we're gonna talk, you know.
1:34
SPEAKER_01: Usually we go really spiritual, and this will still probably take that turn, but we're gonna also talk a little more physical today.
1:42
SPEAKER_01: So I just want to throw something out there that there's a difference between listening to your body and micromanaging it.
1:53
SPEAKER_01: And I feel like there's that fine line that so many people are walking and crossing and they don't even realize it, right?
2:00
SPEAKER_01: It's like, let me stack on supplements, let me do all of these biohacking things, let me do XYZ instead of just, oh, I'm not actually listening to my body and trusting my body.
2:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:15
SPEAKER_00: And no one wants to be micromanaged, right?
2:17
SPEAKER_00: You don't want to be micromanaged at your job, and neither does your body.
2:20
SPEAKER_00: Your body does not want to be micromanaged.
2:22
SPEAKER_00: And this is, I think, where um, you know, we make healing as our full-time job, even though a lot of us have other full-time jobs in addition to being a parent, in addition to having having other things to do.
2:37
SPEAKER_00: And so not every emotion needs to be analyzed, right?
2:42
SPEAKER_00: Guilty as charged um or journaled on, or let me, you know, um, or finding a resource for that.
2:50
SPEAKER_00: Not everything has to be traced back to childhood.
2:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, sometimes you're just irritated or frustrated, and you're irritated and frustrated, you know, just like we talked about, it takes 60 to 90 seconds for the emotions to pass.
3:03
SPEAKER_00: Just let it pass.
3:04
SPEAKER_00: I don't need to analyze why I'm irritated and frustrated and upset or whatever it is.
3:11
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes you're tired, you know, not because your body is lacking nutrients, it's maybe because you had a longer week at work, right?
3:20
SPEAKER_00: You had so many more meetings, you were waking up earlier, sleeping a little bit later.
3:24
SPEAKER_00: Your body's fine.
3:25
SPEAKER_00: It's just like you're tired, you know, you just give it a rest.
3:28
SPEAKER_00: And sometimes you just need to go out with your girlfriends and just have fun, right?
3:33
SPEAKER_00: So it's I think we just overly analyze, and this is where the micromanaging comes in because we have to find an analysis or a reason for every single thing.
3:43
SPEAKER_00: And this is where healing can become more than a full-time job, it can become an obsession.
3:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, a hundred percent.
3:50
SPEAKER_01: And I think, I mean, let's go back to what does healing even mean, right?
3:54
SPEAKER_01: Like we always hear people say, I'm on my healing journey, I'm on my healing journey.
3:58
SPEAKER_01: And I've been guilty of saying that too, but I have stepped away from saying that.
4:03
SPEAKER_01: You know, um, of we're all on a healing journey.
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SPEAKER_01: If we look at it that way, like we are on it for the rest of our lives.
4:09
SPEAKER_01: But what is healing?
4:11
SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't have a solid definition.
4:13
SPEAKER_01: I haven't even Googled it.
4:14
SPEAKER_01: I'd be curious to know, like, what comes up with Webster Dictionary, like what is healing?
4:19
SPEAKER_01: But I think that is something for you to think about as a listener of what is healing?
4:25
SPEAKER_01: Like, when do you arrive?
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SPEAKER_01: Why is it, you know, Denise and I have talked about from the spiritual side, you never arrive.
4:31
SPEAKER_01: But then even from a physical body, do you ever arrive?
4:34
SPEAKER_01: Are you ever at a place where you will never have a symptom again?
4:38
SPEAKER_01: No, we're human.
4:39
SPEAKER_00: No, probably not.
4:40
SPEAKER_00: It's kind of like the house that you know, you constantly have something to do in the house, you all constantly have a project in the house for you know, in the house to do.
4:47
SPEAKER_00: And I know that we're gonna touch base on it next time, maybe.
4:51
SPEAKER_00: Next, I think you and I talked about it.
4:54
SPEAKER_00: We're like sometimes, you know, um maybe just considering that you are whole as you are versus having to fix all the time, right?
5:03
SPEAKER_00: I know that we're gonna talk about that too, but there's exactly like we said, there's no arriving because there's always something, and and there's always a phase, right?
5:12
SPEAKER_00: So let's say you may, you know, get all of the symptoms right now, let's say in your 40s, right?
5:19
SPEAKER_00: So 50 is something else, 60 is something else, 70s, whatever.
5:22
SPEAKER_00: So I think it's just like a house, a house, or there's always something to do at the house, right?
5:28
SPEAKER_00: You always remodeling, you're always changing the furniture.
5:31
SPEAKER_00: So it and it depends on the phase and stage in your life.
5:36
SPEAKER_00: So, what we want you also to start thinking about is are you addicted to working on yourself?
5:42
SPEAKER_00: Right?
5:43
SPEAKER_00: It could be what is the other next book that I'm gonna read?
5:46
SPEAKER_00: What is the next podcast?
5:48
SPEAKER_00: Ooh, this meditation is perfect, I'm gonna do it, or this course, or this specialized practitioner.
5:56
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
5:57
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, and because this is all communicating to your body that I'm still not enough.
6:03
SPEAKER_00: And I think this is when we're gonna touch base on that.
6:05
SPEAKER_00: You are enough, and stop over obsessing and fixing something and just let it be.
6:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
6:13
SPEAKER_00: And have fun.
6:14
SPEAKER_01: And I think it's really twofold here, right?
6:16
SPEAKER_01: Like from a spiritual sense, if you're working on emotions, you're working on trauma, you're working on all of those things, fine, but don't obsess about it.
6:26
SPEAKER_01: Like Denise said, you can overdo it.
6:28
SPEAKER_01: Just stress that it's okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Like I'm on this journey, I'm here, I'm present today.
6:33
SPEAKER_01: There's not a million things I need to do, but I'm also gonna throw in the health aspect here because I see it all the time with people that come to me of taking a million different supplements, supplements.
6:43
SPEAKER_01: And now it's well, I'm in perimenopause, so I need to stack in peptides and I need bioidentical hormones and I need XYZ.
6:50
SPEAKER_01: And it's like, but do you, do you really, you know?
6:54
SPEAKER_01: And yes, I am not ignorant, and you know, I know that symptoms will come on with perimenopause, right?
7:01
SPEAKER_01: As a female in my 40s, I get it.
7:03
SPEAKER_01: However, I think we can get through this time with grace.
7:08
SPEAKER_01: And we got through puberty, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Like, I didn't need anything to get through puberty.
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SPEAKER_01: We survived it.
7:13
SPEAKER_01: It's the same thing.
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SPEAKER_01: We're just going in reverse.
7:16
SPEAKER_00: But I feel like you didn't pop them pills.
7:19
SPEAKER_01: I'm pretty sure.
7:20
SPEAKER_01: Um, but the wellness space is telling us you need all these things to feel amazing.
7:25
SPEAKER_01: You need all these things to help your bones, you need all these things, but do you?
7:29
SPEAKER_01: I don't I this is my belief, right, guys?
7:32
SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying that everyone should just own this, but my belief is that we don't all need the exact same things to feel amazing.
7:40
SPEAKER_01: I don't buy that I have to be on bioidentical hormones for the rest of my life to have solid bones.
7:46
SPEAKER_01: Like you're telling me that God didn't build me complete.
7:49
SPEAKER_01: He was like, you know what, guys, you're gonna need some bioidentical hormones.
7:53
SPEAKER_00: You know that, you know that, you know that, especially when we're gonna introduce spirituality, whereas like God is involved right now, it's like God put you as perfect as you are, the way that you are, the way that you think in this journey.
8:08
SPEAKER_00: So I think that knowing that we know that I don't need fixing, I just need to chill the fuck out.
8:17
SPEAKER_01: Yes, I need to pause.
8:19
SPEAKER_00: I think this is what it is like chill out and stop.
8:23
SPEAKER_00: And then you and I are guilty absolutely because we're like, oh, look at this course, look at this, this.
8:28
SPEAKER_00: And I know we used to overdo it now.
8:30
SPEAKER_00: We're like, we don't, and we just stop ourselves because that that came from awareness and our belief and faith that we are perfect, just like how God, you know, put us on this in this lifetime for uh in that body and whatever.
8:45
SPEAKER_00: Um, it's just um I forgot where I was going with this.
8:49
SPEAKER_00: I lost my train of thought.
8:51
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, I was rambling too.
8:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's okay.
8:54
SPEAKER_00: But I feel that we just really, really truly need to chill the fuck out and enjoy ourselves and enjoy that moment.
9:01
SPEAKER_00: And even if you're going through uncertainty and through hardships, whatever the it is, physical, financial relationship, understand that this is part of the plan.
9:14
SPEAKER_00: And I'm gonna go spiritual right now.
9:16
SPEAKER_00: This is part of your soul contract, and just and then sometimes there's isn't lessons to be learned.
9:21
SPEAKER_00: The lesson is like how you you may want to chill or relax or not react or just like sit your ass on the couch like yesterday, for example.
9:30
SPEAKER_00: I was like, oh my god, like even though I had a long day, I came home and then I was like, oh shoot, I still need to do my notes.
9:37
SPEAKER_00: I still I have so many meetings next week.
9:40
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, did niece just get your freaking book?
9:44
SPEAKER_00: Because I'm reading a book for book love, has nothing to do with healing, it's just it's a really nice story.
9:49
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, you know what?
9:50
SPEAKER_00: Fuck that shit.
9:51
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna read.
9:52
SPEAKER_00: The notes can wait, the meetings can wait, everything else can wait.
9:56
SPEAKER_00: And I just that's what your soul wanted in the moment, and that's what you need to listen to.
10:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
10:02
SPEAKER_01: But we don't do that, and that's I mean, I'm gonna continue on that spiritual piece, but tying in, like sometimes healing really does look like doing less and surrendering more, right?
10:15
SPEAKER_01: Not adding this other layer of control, which we I've said this before, and I've said it to you.
10:21
SPEAKER_01: We have no control, we have no control over anything.
10:24
SPEAKER_01: I knock on wood, I I could get struck by lightning.
10:28
SPEAKER_01: There's no there's no lightning in the area, so I think we're good with that.
10:31
SPEAKER_01: I could get struck by lightning in the next one.
10:33
SPEAKER_01: Oh, the lightning's gonna come.
10:34
SPEAKER_01: Like, okay, the people in Texas are gonna be like, who talked about lightning?
10:37
SPEAKER_01: Sorry, guys.
10:38
SPEAKER_01: Um, but you get what I'm saying.
10:40
SPEAKER_01: We have no control, we can't control anything.
10:43
SPEAKER_01: And so people are like gripping on so tight to this healing.
10:49
SPEAKER_01: And for any of my clients listening, I'm saying this for you, and you know who you are.
10:57
SPEAKER_01: There are lessons.
10:58
SPEAKER_01: There are lessons in here.
11:00
SPEAKER_01: Like you said it, Denise, and I'm reading Wayne Dyer right now, who talks about everything is a lesson.
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SPEAKER_01: Every person you meet, even the person who cuts you off in traffic, the bagger at the grocery store, there are lessons there, but we it goes back to the ego.
11:16
SPEAKER_01: It wants to keep us safe.
11:17
SPEAKER_01: So we don't want to look for those lessons.
11:19
SPEAKER_01: We want to be like, no, but I I really don't feel good.
11:22
SPEAKER_01: Like my body is not functioning well.
11:25
SPEAKER_01: I've got to be missing something.
11:26
SPEAKER_01: There's gotta be another supplement out there.
11:28
SPEAKER_01: You know what?
11:29
SPEAKER_01: You just missed something as my practitioner.
11:31
SPEAKER_01: Let's run some additional labs.
11:32
SPEAKER_01: And we could say the same for like the spiritual journey as well.
11:36
SPEAKER_01: But what if you paused?
11:38
SPEAKER_01: Like Denise said, slow the fuck down.
11:40
SPEAKER_01: Like, what if you literally just paused and said, What do I need?
11:45
SPEAKER_01: Instead of what is the next thing I need to do or add to my plate, creating more stress and telling my nervous system and my body more, hey, you're you're broken, fix it.
11:55
SPEAKER_01: What if you just learn to sit with it and be like, oh, okay, I'm observing, right?
12:00
SPEAKER_01: This is also a Wayne Dyer thing.
12:02
SPEAKER_01: I am just observing.
12:03
SPEAKER_01: I'm not my body, right?
12:05
SPEAKER_01: We are not our body, we are just in a body right now.
12:09
SPEAKER_01: So I'm observing what's happening and trusting that it's gonna be okay.
12:14
SPEAKER_01: And I don't know, like I could just sometimes healing.
12:17
SPEAKER_00: I was gonna say it came to me when you were saying, like, sometimes healing is just kind of like forgetting that word.
12:23
SPEAKER_00: Yes, forget that word, yeah, and just live your life.
12:27
SPEAKER_00: I think you focus too much.
12:28
SPEAKER_00: So it's kind of like when it's when people are so focused on work that they forget to live their life, they're so focused on their goals, they forget to live their life.
12:36
SPEAKER_00: You're so focused on healing, you forget to live your life.
12:39
SPEAKER_00: And we're not saying, again, people can misinterpret this and say, Well, you're gonna tell me to sit on the couch and eat bonbons.
12:46
SPEAKER_01: No, and I'm also not telling you to ignore symptoms either, right?
12:49
SPEAKER_00: If you feel like hell, don't just sit there and be like, oh, absolutely, but just don't obsess over it, don't go from one podcast to another to a course to a this to a that.
12:59
SPEAKER_00: Just and if you are that person, some people listening right now be like, Well, I'm not that person.
13:03
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes I chill out, like with me, sometimes I chill out, sometimes I, you know, stress over it.
13:07
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it's fine if you have that balance.
13:09
SPEAKER_00: I get it.
13:10
SPEAKER_00: But if you're constantly that person, like you know, Kira says, you're on so many supplements, you're on so many meditation protocols, you're on so many classes, you're on so many things.
13:19
SPEAKER_00: This is for you to actually step away from the conveyor, step away, step away and just breathe, dude.
13:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then a little bit, and again, we go back to the one percent shift, right?
13:33
SPEAKER_00: Your life, if you really want your life to change, your Monday morning, your Tuesday evening, your Wednesday afternoon need to change.
13:42
SPEAKER_00: So if you're constantly, you know, oh my god, I have so many things to do, guess what?
13:47
SPEAKER_00: You're gonna repeat the same thing over and over again.
13:51
SPEAKER_00: But when you take that initiative, you're like, you know what?
13:54
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna take that Tuesday morning and change it.
13:56
SPEAKER_00: Instead of like hustling and bustling in the morning, I'm going to have an easier morning.
14:03
SPEAKER_00: And please don't tell me easier said than done.
14:05
SPEAKER_01: No, it's a choice, everything is a choice.
14:08
SPEAKER_00: No, it's a choice because Kira's busy and I'm freaking busy.
14:11
SPEAKER_00: She has a business to run, I have business to run, I have kids, she has kids, she has a child with special needs, I teach children special needs.
14:19
SPEAKER_00: I'm busy all the darn time.
14:21
SPEAKER_00: And everything is a choice.
14:24
SPEAKER_00: No, and you can slow down.
14:26
SPEAKER_00: And if you're telling me that you can't slow down, then it's a problem.
14:32
SPEAKER_00: It's a big, it's a big problem.
14:34
SPEAKER_00: It's a big problem.
14:35
SPEAKER_00: And if you're getting offended from this, it's an even better to look and say, why?
14:42
SPEAKER_00: Why?
14:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
14:46
SPEAKER_01: I mean, man, I was gonna say something and then I totally forgot where I was gonna go with it.
14:51
SPEAKER_01: But there's just so much I could say on this topic.
14:53
SPEAKER_01: Let me go back to what I was starting to say too of like, don't ignore symptoms, but there's there's a balance, right?
15:02
SPEAKER_01: What you focus on grows.
15:03
SPEAKER_01: That's where I was gonna go with this, right?
15:05
SPEAKER_01: We we have said that so many times, and there's so much that proves this, right?
15:09
SPEAKER_01: If you were continuing to focus on, oh, I've gotta do the next thing, I've got to add more supplements, I gotta do more meditation, I gotta do more journaling, you're focusing on that, right?
15:20
SPEAKER_01: And that gap of, oh, I'm not healed, I really need to work on it more, is just gonna continue to grow.
15:27
SPEAKER_01: So don't ignore the things that you know need some work.
15:31
SPEAKER_01: But like Denise said, change something, right?
15:34
SPEAKER_01: That might be something like, okay, I wake up and I feel absolutely horrible in the morning.
15:40
SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, what are you doing right now?
15:42
SPEAKER_01: Do something different tomorrow morning.
15:44
SPEAKER_01: Go sit outside in the sun, go take a walk, like power through some of this and see how your body responds.
15:52
SPEAKER_01: Um skip several days on your supplements.
15:56
SPEAKER_01: Sit with it, learn to muscle test yourself.
15:58
SPEAKER_01: Ask yourself, like we have intuition, guys.
16:01
SPEAKER_01: Go back to that episode with Jenny.
16:03
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what number it is, but if you don't know how to listen to your intuition, that is a great starting point.
16:08
SPEAKER_01: We all have intuition.
16:10
SPEAKER_01: You can ask yourself, what do I need today?
16:12
SPEAKER_01: Do I need more water?
16:14
SPEAKER_01: Do I need joy?
16:15
SPEAKER_01: Like, what is missing in my life that I, you know, do I need some girlfriends?
16:18
SPEAKER_01: Do I need to join a mom group?
16:20
SPEAKER_01: Do I need XYZ?
16:21
SPEAKER_01: But again, the ego keeps us safe and we don't go there.
16:25
SPEAKER_01: And so safe is let me hire someone else, let me go sign up for another webinar, let me add another supplement because I saw on Instagram that this helps everybody feel amazing.
16:37
SPEAKER_01: And we get stuck in that cycle, and we don't want you getting stuck.
16:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we just don't.
16:44
SPEAKER_00: So I think what we're asking you today is to we're giving you permission to put that healing quote unquote on pause.
16:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, don't forget about it.
16:57
SPEAKER_00: We're not telling to forget about it, just pause it, right?
17:00
SPEAKER_00: If you're watching a show and it's irritating you, you pause it or you stop it.
17:06
SPEAKER_00: So pause that.
17:07
SPEAKER_00: And I love what you said.
17:08
SPEAKER_00: You know, one of the choices could be if you're on if you're on 25 supplements, you can take a break for two days.
17:14
SPEAKER_00: Nothing's gonna happen.
17:15
SPEAKER_00: No, it's a supplement holiday.
17:17
SPEAKER_00: I highly recommend it.
17:18
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely nothing's gonna happen.
17:20
SPEAKER_00: Take a couple days, chill out.
17:22
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it takes a while to swallow 25 pills.
17:25
SPEAKER_00: So maybe maybe that gives you 10 minutes of like breathing or going outside, right?
17:30
SPEAKER_00: So, what we ask you to do is really pause and start one start not wondering, start putting in your head that I am whole as I am, even in this body, even in this body that has aches, even in this body that has some symptoms, even in this body that you think is broken, or in these emotions, or in this mental state that you think is broken, and you know if you want to fix it, just accept it that you are whole the way that you are.
17:58
SPEAKER_01: And it goes back to what you said about soul contract.
18:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, this is a trigger for many, and it was a trigger for me the first time I heard it.
18:05
SPEAKER_01: But then I was like, you know what?
18:06
SPEAKER_01: This is a beautiful way of looking at it.
18:09
SPEAKER_01: You signed up for this.
18:10
SPEAKER_01: Somewhere in your life, your soul said, you know what?
18:13
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna do this.
18:15
SPEAKER_01: So here you are.
18:17
SPEAKER_01: Don't cop out, go through it and trust that you agreed to this to learn the lessons that needed to be learned.
18:25
SPEAKER_01: And we can't I can't tell you what those lessons are, right?
18:28
SPEAKER_01: I'm everything for me.
18:30
SPEAKER_01: Just have fun in the process and trust.
18:32
SPEAKER_01: And that's the thing.
18:34
SPEAKER_01: When I go back to we don't know what's guaranteed, lightning could hit me in the next 25 minutes.
18:40
SPEAKER_01: If you're so focused on what is wrong, you aren't even living.
18:45
SPEAKER_01: You're not even here.
18:47
SPEAKER_01: Like, where are you?
18:48
SPEAKER_01: Do you get what I'm saying?
18:49
SPEAKER_01: Like, I hope this makes sense.
18:50
SPEAKER_01: But if you're just I gotta do this next thing and I feel so terrible and I got all this trauma that I haven't worked through, and I need to do X, Y, Z.
18:58
SPEAKER_01: Okay, but if you're not here tomorrow, is that the same way you're gonna live today?
19:02
SPEAKER_01: Because please don't do that.
19:04
SPEAKER_01: Go enjoy your life.
19:06
SPEAKER_01: Even if you're in pain, even if you're unhappy, find a way to enjoy it because that is a choice.
19:12
SPEAKER_01: You can choose that, you can choose it right now.
19:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
19:20
SPEAKER_00: And just you know, live it, enjoy it.
19:23
SPEAKER_00: Pause it for a minute, nothing's gonna happen.
19:26
SPEAKER_00: No, the symmets are gonna be there, the stress is gonna be there, the work's gonna be there, the meditations are gonna be there, that's probably gonna even be better or different, you know, because there's something like especially in in uh in our world right now, there's just a new thing and new technology and new shit that can make you feel better because there's that belief that we're broken.
19:49
SPEAKER_00: But if you work on that belief that you're not broken, you don't need and I mean we we we talk about resources and tools, don't get us wrong, but sometimes just uh people just overdo it.
20:02
SPEAKER_00: You are not broken, Ikira's not broken, I'm not broken.
20:07
SPEAKER_00: So stop chasing the next thing and just sit with it and say, I am the way I am.
20:13
SPEAKER_00: Because God wants to help, you know, did it on great on purpose, yeah, not in a bad way, but yeah.
20:21
SPEAKER_01: And I I mean, pausing on all of these tools and techniques and things that you're doing too.
20:28
SPEAKER_01: I'm amazed at how many people feel better.
20:30
SPEAKER_01: Like, I have a client right now, I'm curious if she listens to this episode, but she said, because I am a big fan of supplement holidays, I'm like, we overdo it.
20:38
SPEAKER_01: Take a few days every month, take take a few days, just off, stop everything.
20:42
SPEAKER_01: And she's like, I am actually feeling so much better now that I've like cut way back.
20:47
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, yeah, because your nervous system has no idea what good stress and bad stress is, it's just overwhelmed.
20:53
SPEAKER_01: And if you're like, but I have to do this and this and this and this, but it's all good for me.
20:58
SPEAKER_01: I don't know that it is because now your nervous system is overwhelmed, right?
21:02
SPEAKER_01: There's a 12-step morning routine and a chaotic one.
21:05
SPEAKER_01: What's the difference?
21:06
SPEAKER_01: Your body doesn't see a difference.
21:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just want to add you're allowed, you have permission to enjoy yourself while you're still figuring your shit out.
21:17
SPEAKER_00: So enjoy yourself and just it goes back to don't take yourself too seriously and don't get too caught up in the I'm so serious.
21:30
SPEAKER_00: Crap.
21:33
SPEAKER_01: I hit mute.
21:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I was laughing at you too.
21:35
SPEAKER_00: And I yes, I'm with you.
21:40
SPEAKER_00: I know there's no graduating from healing, you know what I mean?
21:43
SPEAKER_00: Like, oh, I got my.
21:53
SPEAKER_00: And then you start living because what is healing?
21:57
unknown: Exactly.
21:58
SPEAKER_00: Live at the same time, and again, I also want to point out, Kira, that I think people might listening to us might be like, you guys changed a like a lot of your views, and this is absolutely 1000% correct.
22:12
SPEAKER_00: We are not the same people who started that podcast, we don't have the same beliefs of the people who started the podcast, and this is beautiful because we are continuously growing, changing, and enjoying ourselves in the process, right?
22:29
SPEAKER_00: So maybe the first two episodes that you heard are have nothing to do with who we are right now, and in a year it may look like a lot of people.
22:39
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, absolutely.
22:41
SPEAKER_00: So we may be like, you're like, oh, you're contradicting yourselves.
22:44
SPEAKER_00: Guess what?
22:45
SPEAKER_00: Yes, maybe, because we're different people.
22:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're a lobby.
22:48
SPEAKER_00: We have different beliefs, yeah.
22:49
SPEAKER_01: I've I've actually had people reach out to me because 10 years ago when I started my practice, it was like, well, let's track your food and let's do this and let's optimize supplements and let's run labs.
23:00
SPEAKER_01: There's a time and a place, and I still enjoy talking about that, but very much so that's not where I go now because I'm like, that's not what moves the needle enough, right?
23:11
SPEAKER_01: It's not.
23:13
SPEAKER_01: And so people are like, but you're what do you mean?
23:15
SPEAKER_01: That's what you do.
23:16
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, not anymore.
23:17
SPEAKER_01: It's okay to evolve.
23:18
SPEAKER_01: And I, you know, if you want to see someone that just does that, that's fine.
23:21
SPEAKER_01: It's not me though.
23:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
23:25
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
23:26
SPEAKER_00: Uh I think the mantra is sometimes the yield response is fun.
23:31
SPEAKER_01: I like that.
23:32
SPEAKER_01: I it's funny, I had one too, and so you guys put in your head what feels better.
23:36
SPEAKER_01: Okay, what is it?
23:38
SPEAKER_01: Uh I heal and rest, not effort.
23:42
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so I'm not gonna repeat them.
23:44
SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, yeah.
23:44
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna guide you through the thing.
23:46
SPEAKER_00: So the two mantras are I'm gonna say sometimes the yield response is fun.
23:52
SPEAKER_00: Yours.
23:53
SPEAKER_01: I heal and rest, not effort.
23:56
SPEAKER_00: There we go.
23:56
SPEAKER_00: Alright, you know the drill.
23:58
SPEAKER_00: Close your eyes.
24:01
SPEAKER_00: Close your eyes driving.
24:02
SPEAKER_00: Unless you're driving, do not.
24:04
SPEAKER_00: Like, the knees told me to go fall.
24:06
SPEAKER_00: Um, hand on your heart, one on your belly if you want to.
24:10
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna do four, four, six.
24:12
SPEAKER_00: Inhaling for four, two, three, four, hold for four, two, two, three, four, exhale for six, five, four, three, two, one, repeat, whatever mantra calls to you again.
24:29
SPEAKER_00: One, two, three, three, four, hold, two, three, four.