Latest / The Dr. Psych Mom Show with clinical psychologist Dr. Samantha Rodman Whiten / Who Are The Men Who Get Treated Like Kings?
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- 0:05Hi everybody and welcome to the Doctor's Psych Mom Show.
- 0:09Today I'm going to be talking about.
- 0:10Who? The men are who get treated
- 0:13quote like kings, right? And so this is an extension of
- 0:17my post about who are the women that got?
- 0:19Treated like princesses. Which I linked to in the
- 0:21description. And before we get to this,
- 0:25please do subscribe. Most recent subscriber episode
- 0:28was Remember, there's a little Honeymoon stage every month and
- 0:30there's almost 150 other episodes that are paid that you
- 0:35can get if you if you subscribe. So there are a lot of.
- 0:40People on the Internet that say things the my favorite
- 0:45interaction recently there's all these guys who say like you got
- 0:49to get a like these are not my clients these are just people on
- 0:51the Internet that. Say that you.
- 0:53Have to get a woman from a different country so that she
- 0:57treats you like a king because you know women from different
- 1:01countries are not as you know they they I guess don't know in
- 1:05theory that they can you know I don't know do anything except
- 1:09that and that that's how they were raised and whatever.
- 1:12And then there was some guy who responded and it sounded like it
- 1:17was from experience and he said. No if you.
- 1:22Get a woman from another country.
- 1:23It's like that at the beginning, but after that it gets worse
- 1:27than it would have been with a woman.
- 1:28From this country. So I guess the the moral of the
- 1:34story is that the honeymoon stage fades for everybody
- 1:39including women from quote other countries, which I always just
- 1:42find so, so funny when when guys say that there is no female
- 1:48equivalent. By the way I've never heard a
- 1:49woman say that she needs a man from another country who knows
- 1:53how to treat women better. But but who knows.
- 1:55I mean that that would be certainly, certainly.
- 1:59Never say, never say. Never.
- 2:00Maybe I will see that in the comments too.
- 2:02I don't know what country that would that would.
- 2:04Be may oh, I guess the. Equivalent is there are women
- 2:06who think accents are really cute, like British accents.
- 2:09So I mean, maybe it's that. But the point is.
- 2:13The point is that if you are trying to hack the system.
- 2:17And get treated. Like a king without
- 2:19understanding. Who?
- 2:21Really gets good treatment from their wives.
- 2:25Then you will probably end up as in AS.
- 2:27Bad a situation. As that poor a man who tried to
- 2:30get a woman from a different country.
- 2:31And then she ended up not. Liking him anyway.
- 2:34And you can. You can see plenty of this if
- 2:36you do like 90 day fiance or things like this.
- 2:39Those relationships are not perfect either.
- 2:41So the point is that, much like in my post about women who get.
- 2:47Treated like princesses. The people who get treated.
- 2:50Well. Are the.
- 2:51People who? Treat their partner.
- 2:53Well, I just cannot. Say this enough.
- 2:58If you. Are expecting that you can be
- 3:02negative and annoying and just. Selfish.
- 3:06And then you're gonna get some woman who treats you like a
- 3:09king. You're talking about a certain
- 3:11kind of relationship called a low.
- 3:12Self Esteem Woman. In the honeymoon phase, that's
- 3:16what that. Is so you could just you're
- 3:18gonna get a low self. Esteem woman who doesn't, she
- 3:21deserves to be. Treated well and is terrified to
- 3:23lose you. And she's.
- 3:24Still in the honeymoon stage? Where?
- 3:26She puts you on a pedestal. Women with borderline
- 3:28personality. Disorder, for example, have.
- 3:32Zero, you know. Confidence in themselves
- 3:35usually, and will try to find a fairly narcissistic, selfish man
- 3:39that they could kind of hitch their wagon to, and after a
- 3:44little while this will turn into a volatile, horrible mess when
- 3:48he falls off the pedestal. So.
- 3:51If you if you don't want that, if you want long.
- 3:54Term to get treated like a king, which of course to most.
- 3:57Men means sex. And physical touch and kindness
- 4:01and laughing as jokes and stuff. What does that mean you have to
- 4:05do? That means that you yourself
- 4:07have to be. A kind, loving, responsible guy.
- 4:12You know otherwise. Any woman is going to eventually
- 4:17realize that you're a Dick. And she's not going to treat you
- 4:20well. So the point the same thing with
- 4:23women. So there's like a lot of women
- 4:25who are mad at the world. Because of the way that they
- 4:28were treated as kids and which I feel for them and they had
- 4:32difficult time and they saw their mother.
- 4:34Get treated like shit by their father, usually.
- 4:36And then they say, oh, any. Woman who gets treated well by a
- 4:39man she's probably exploiting. Him in some way.
- 4:43Or she's taking advantage of. Him in some way.
- 4:46Or or it's just not even. True.
- 4:48And And that doesn't even really happen.
- 4:49Of course it happens. Of course, women get treated
- 4:52really well by their husbands, but.
- 4:54Those are the women who are nice to their husbands, so a lot of
- 4:57people want a. Free lunch and this is.
- 4:59No, you know, I say. All the time.
- 5:01There's no free lunch. You cannot just like obtain, you
- 5:05know, a human being that will treat you like royalty without
- 5:09you having. To be that way in return at
- 5:12least not past the. First couple of years and at
- 5:16that point that person will leave you.
- 5:18You know if if you do, not if. If they grow at.
- 5:21All in their self-confidence, like I discussed in my prior
- 5:24podcast, Why does your marriage Tank when?
- 5:26Your mental health improves well if there are people and there.
- 5:30Are who will? Treat you very well in the
- 5:32absence of being treated well themselves, then as soon as they
- 5:36grow a little bit in the confidence domain they're going
- 5:38to be. Out of.
- 5:39This relationship So what sort of men get treated like kings?
- 5:44Men who are kind. Men who are loving, Men who are
- 5:46generous emotionally. Not financially, Emotionally,
- 5:52men who think everything is about money, that's usually
- 5:54'cause they were raised by. Parents who are fixated on
- 5:56money. Women, mothers and fathers who
- 5:59called. Women gold.
- 6:00Diggers, etcetera, etcetera. So what?
- 6:03I mean is generous emotionally, so somebody who's not nitpicking
- 6:07somebody. Who's not playing devil's
- 6:08advocate somebody? Who's not negative?
- 6:11And critical. There is no woman with any self
- 6:14esteem who's going to treat a man well when he's picking at
- 6:17her, criticizing her, saying negative things about her all
- 6:21the time. Or.
- 6:22Really. At all.
- 6:23You know, like calling her any names or making.
- 6:26Fun of her. And there are many men who do
- 6:29this. It's it's interesting too, when
- 6:31I am, you know, as a social media presence, you know, I see
- 6:36there's it attracts the most negative people.
- 6:38Right who comment? Either it's people who try to be
- 6:41supportive, which is very nice, but if there are people who are
- 6:43negative, it's like, what kind of man?
- 6:48Sits there and goes on to a random.
- 6:51Woman's Facebook, you know. And says negative shit.
- 6:55How's that man gonna be in his marriage?
- 6:57Right. Like like think.
- 6:59About it, you know, is there a human being in the world that's
- 7:02like a? Loving.
- 7:04Man in a relationship and like a a great husband.
- 7:08And a great dad, but just has this like cute quirky hobby.
- 7:12Of just going. On women's social.
- 7:14Media and being like you're terrible and you're.
- 7:18Wrong. And you're ugly.
- 7:19I mean, like, no. Like, we all know that, right?
- 7:23But yet. And I'm not saying that anybody
- 7:26who's listening to. Certainly at least the paid
- 7:28version of this podcast, because paywalls really do.
- 7:31Weed out people who are trolls. But this is a free one still
- 7:35though. I mean, you know anybody?
- 7:37Who's going to listen to like? This I don't know.
- 7:39I would doubt are the same people that are trolling on
- 7:42social. Media, but think.
- 7:43About it like. I mean those guys, they say all
- 7:47women suck My wife. Cheated on me.
- 7:50Like and everything that you write and and you say is stupid.
- 7:54So it's like right there you could see.
- 7:57Why did things go bad? Why did?
- 7:59This guy not get treated. Well, and I don't believe that
- 8:02he's lying. I believe the woman did cheat,
- 8:03right? But still.
- 8:06You don't turn into a very difficult, mean, critical
- 8:11person. Everybody doesn't turn into that
- 8:14because somebody cheated on them, right.
- 8:15So most people are like, oh, that's unfortunate, That was a
- 8:18bad relationship. And I'm going to pick myself up
- 8:20and move forward, you know, after I grieve, process,
- 8:23etcetera. Most people don't turn super
- 8:24bitter. So the people that are super
- 8:27bitter after something bad are usually the people that were
- 8:29super. Bitter before.
- 8:31And that could have led. To something bad happening right
- 8:34where they get. Into relationships.
- 8:35That are very volatile and contentious where things happen
- 8:38like cheating and lying and all sorts of things.
- 8:41So if you are a bitter or critical person and how can you
- 8:46tell? Are you mean to anyone?
- 8:48Basically anyone. From like random people on the
- 8:51Internet to Rd. raging at people to your kids when they don't do
- 8:56what they want you what you want?
- 8:58Are you kind of a mean, impatient, critical man?
- 9:02Then you're not going to get treated like a king by your wife
- 9:05if she has an ounce of self esteem or self worth 'cause
- 9:09you're not nice, you know? So the the hack here, it it's
- 9:13like the women who try to say, oh, there's a lot of ways to be
- 9:16a Good Wife without touching my husband.
- 9:18No, you know, there's not, you know, there's really not.
- 9:21Those things don't exist. That's fiction.
- 9:23That's not real. There are not ways to be a.
- 9:25Good Wife without touching your husband.
- 9:26Just like you can't be a good mother to a.
- 9:27Baby without touching the baby. So I, I and I say it straight
- 9:32out and very clear. There's also.
- 9:34No way to be a good. Husband, if you are critical and
- 9:37negative, they're just not if you're cold, critical, negative,
- 9:42demeaning any of these things really to anyone in your life.
- 9:45Because a lot of men try to pretend to themselves that
- 9:48they're not that way to their wife, but they'll recognize it.
- 9:50Like, Oh yeah, I'm a great husband.
- 9:52But like, I'm impatient with the kids.
- 9:54I have terrible road rage. I've been written up at work.
- 9:57You know, my work evaluations are that I'm not a team player.
- 10:00I used to get into fights when I was a boy, you know?
- 10:04No, then you're not a nice person.
- 10:06You could be a nice person in your heart, but somehow now you
- 10:10your behavior is not that of a nice person.
- 10:12So the number one way to find somebody who will treat you like
- 10:15a king is to treat them like a queen.
- 10:17And you can't be like that if you're negative, critical,
- 10:20nasty, impatient, cold, any of these things.
- 10:24I have a podcast called Most Men Don't Criticize their wives in
- 10:27bed and how you ended up in a dynamic where that would happen
- 10:31something like that. Because most men don't.
- 10:33Most men are like, all right, you know, my wife loves me.
- 10:37We're having sex and they take kind of a a positive spin on it.
- 10:40Is it the most exciting thing that ever?
- 10:41Happened. No, but.
- 10:42You know what? She's trying in her way and I
- 10:45love her. That's like the securely
- 10:48attached people how they think about sex being boring, but
- 10:51people who are very negative and critical, they'll give their
- 10:54wife like a A5 bullet point things that.
- 10:57You should improve. After every sexual performance,
- 11:00a woman who stays with that man hates him.
- 11:03She hates herself more because she's, you know, has low self
- 11:05esteem enough to stay in that situation, but she hates treats
- 11:09him too on some level and therefore she will not treat him
- 11:12well because he's kind of a bastard, you know, And so that
- 11:16is really the TLDR. Here and it's.
- 11:19Not a lot of people that I see in counseling because for
- 11:22somebody to get into. Counseling, you know.
- 11:25They have to be somewhat open minded, although it is some some
- 11:27guys who. Get dragged in by their wives
- 11:29right are. Really.
- 11:32Just assholes, you know? And they're always assholes
- 11:35because. They got treated.
- 11:36Bad themselves. So it's not like you can't
- 11:38change. It's not like you can't grow to
- 11:40be a man. That a woman would want to.
- 11:42Treat Well, you certainly can't, but you have to know what you're
- 11:45starting off with. What you're usually starting off
- 11:47with. Is that you?
- 11:49If she doesn't treat you well, you treat her a lot less well
- 11:51than you. Think you do.
- 11:53Because it's a very common conceit.
- 11:55To make up that you're the martyr and she.
- 11:57You know, unilaterally treats you poorly, but you treat her
- 12:01well. She treats you like shit, but
- 12:03you treat her well. I see that so rarely, man, I
- 12:06really do. I see that so rarely.
- 12:09So rarely. Do I see?
- 12:10It that, and I talk about it like the martyr and the.
- 12:12Ice. Queen, you know, or all my
- 12:14preoccupied avoidance stuff. So if you're a preoccupied avoid
- 12:18attachment guy and you're always following your wife around
- 12:21asking if she loves you, you think you're nice.
- 12:24You're not. You know you're being.
- 12:25Very. Selfish, self-centered,
- 12:28irritating, needy. And women do it too.
- 12:31So the woman that follows her husband around being like you
- 12:33don't love me enough. Oh shit, no wonder because
- 12:36you're being so difficult all the time.
- 12:38So the first thing, and I say this was.
- 12:40Love. Tough love.
- 12:42The first thing, if you're preoccupied attachment, is to
- 12:44work on your own self-confidence, you know.
- 12:47And if you can work on that and can get to a place where you're
- 12:51not, like basically creating Co, creating a dynamic that will
- 12:56continually disappoint you. Because the more that you're up
- 12:59somebody's ass saying do you love me, do you love me?
- 13:01The less they do. I mean, because you're bothering
- 13:04them so much. All the.
- 13:04Time. And this is you could listen to
- 13:07all myself on preoccupied attachment husbands.
- 13:09Because what we're talking about in this.
- 13:10Specific podcast. Is why you don't get treated
- 13:13like a king. Well, if you're a.
- 13:14Preoccupied attachment guy. You may think you're treating
- 13:17her well because you're quote focusing on the relationship.
- 13:20You're not treating her well. You're not giving her any space
- 13:23to be a person. You're not being supportive of
- 13:27her being her own human being every time she wants to go do
- 13:30something with friends or by herself or reject you for sex,
- 13:34you're a total asshole about it. So in those cases, of course
- 13:38she's not going to want to be going out of her way to treat
- 13:40you. Well, just like men don't treat
- 13:43women like princesses if the woman is just a real bitch to
- 13:45them all the time. I mean, it's just if if the
- 13:48woman is always kind of up their ass criticizing them, nothing is
- 13:52ever good enough. Why would they go out of their
- 13:55way to make her life romantic and wonderful where they're not
- 13:57that stupid, right? I mean, she may call them
- 14:00stupid, but they're not that stupid to go and try to make her
- 14:03happy when it's obvious that she's never happy with them
- 14:05anyway. So the first thing, if you want
- 14:08to be treated like a king is to make sure that you're treating
- 14:10your wife like a queen. And if you are and you got like
- 14:15and and then you got to think, how do I treat other people in
- 14:17the world? Because if you think you treat
- 14:19her like a queen. But then there's all these other
- 14:21people around that engage with you in ways where you are
- 14:25obviously not being very nice and you've ever gotten that
- 14:28feedback. From anybody else.
- 14:30Then you may not be treating her as well as.
- 14:31You think? If you're generally considered
- 14:33to be a. Difficult person.
- 14:34A critical person you know, then it's odds are that you're not
- 14:39treating her as well. As you think you are, because
- 14:41you need to work on that. Core.
- 14:42Aspect of your. Personality which is.
- 14:45Likely there because you were treated like that as a kid
- 14:47because you got yelled at a lot and criticized.
- 14:49Et cetera, et cetera. All right.
- 14:51I hope you found this interesting.
- 14:52This would be a good one to. Introspect about to bring to
- 14:54your therapist and to think about if it at all made you re.
- 14:58Examine your expectations. And situate them differently.
- 15:03More like, hey, wait, should I really get this thing that I
- 15:06think that I deserve? Do I really?
- 15:08All right, I'll talk to everybody soon.
- 15:10Have a great day guys.