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Burnout Recovery: Why You Need to Get Away with Crissy & Marie | Ep 22 · Two Girls and a Cup of Wellness

• Crissy and Marie: Hey everyone, welcome back for another Two Girls in a Cup of Wellness Conversation. Today it's just Marie and I. It's just us. And we are just gonna riff and see where it takes us. Yeah. So it was really funny because both of us were away at the same time. On trips. Like in Europe at the same time. I actually waved to you across the ocean. Legit funny thing. As we were leaving, so I was in Italy and Marie was in Spain and We literally flew over Spain. And I thought about you. I was like waving to you from the air. I swear to God. It's so funny. So yeah, it is really funny that we're both away with just our spouses, no kids, which is for me amazing. I have three children. So 15, 14 now, and 11. And Paul has always valued experience over stuff. So when the kids were little, he said, I would not rather buy them junk. Let's like get a museum pass or take them places or let them experience things. And plus he's British, right? And I love to travel as well. So the Europeans value holidays or vacations way better than Americans. For sure. For sure. It's part of their culture. It's part of their life. So it's it's a part of their their being. It's not a luxury. And it's a shame. It is. It's a shame. ⁓ A vacation is a reset whether you're going to a different country or you're you're just staying home. Staycation. And I think it's I read this la when I was away back in March that you don't actually start relaxing until day seven. ⁓ And you're like fully like so a ten day vacation is the best because you start unwinding the first few days, your nervous system like, you know, calms down and by day seven you're fully, truly relaxed. And most people are back on the plane going home. ⁓ yeah. Yeah. Right back to it. We were we were gone for eight days and definitely was hoping to have, I would have loved three more days for sure. Never fails. With that being said, when I went to Japan, we were gone for three weeks and I was like, ⁓ it's time to go home. Yeah. Right. I'm a 10-day. I'm a 10-day person. 10 to 12. I know ⁓ in the past we'd been to Italy and it was like 12 days. And I was kind of ready to come back. I was just like, you know, just to get back into the swing of things and schedule and routine. Because you like that. Our bodies like that. Yeah. But I do think that there's something to be said about vacations and I love that you guys do the experiential ones with your your kids. But as even couples, I love going away with my children, but there's you also have to need to or you have to take the time and get out with your spouse, right? Time for just you two as well and to experience things because we're no longer then in ⁓ parenting mode. We're back to ourselves and so wonderful. It's so different. Right. And it's not nothing taking away from our children at all. Like I love still traveling and I I we we have so many plans to travel with our kids, but there is something to be said about just going when it's just the two of you. Right. And it it's and even being there, like I went to the market in Barcelona and I thought, ⁓ my Joseph's gonna love this. Like he's such my little foodie and he would have loved that and the kids would have loved that. But being away and My kids are, you know, teenagers, those so they're a little miserable right now. But dealing with the who's getting up and who has an attitude and who doesn't like this and they're fighting at the table. I don't have to do any of that. Yeah. Which was Paul and I, and granted he was on business for the first few days, so I got to meet up with an old front. I told you that, which was awesome. But it was almost like Paul said, This is like a second honeymoon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So romantic. Well, yeah, the the romanticized experience of it. is number one. Number two, you don't have to worry about if everybody's happy, trying to get everybody out of the house to go do all of these museums and things like that. You get to do what you want to do and you can either over plan and and you know schedule everything or you can literally just take it to fly. Right. Which I like a little bit of both. I I like to have some things planned because I want to make sure I I see certain things. You're only over there for a certain amount of time. So but I don't like to be overly scheduled. I don't need, you know, something planned every hour on the hour all day. Yeah. One or two things per day. And then you can kind of get lost in the city and just give yourself the freedom to stroll and to meet new people and just to it truly experience their life because especially the Europeans are not overly scheduled. No. Their way of being is much more relaxed and just like You know, like in Italy, Ledged Vida, right? Living a sweet life. And sit outside, like they all sit outside and they're having their little coffee or their wine and they're watching people. And the second I got back in America and we were in the the Uber drive back and I'm just scrolling on Instagram and I see the weighted vest and I see the red light and I see the creatine and the collagen and make sure you're doing weight bearing eggs. And I'm like, ⁓ my gosh. I just left a country where people look a 100% healthier than us. They're eating better than us. They're happier. Because it's because it's the lifestyle, number one. But their lifestyle is not stress, do all the things. You have to be all of the things. You have to look early or young. You like it's not, it's just not that. It's not live life to the fullest. So their mindset is completely different than it is here. And we can, you know, the you see left and right of doing all the things, right? People still get sick. It's because their mindset is not right. Right. Or they're holding on to past trauma ⁓ in their cells. Right. And so there we gotta change something about the mindset and just living life in a more joyful, simpler way. Right. And all the people together that to get there was this place and we went to Kedequise. Ketekis. So it's a little village on the water, which is quite difficult to get to. So we ended up having to rent a car. And there was a building on the waterfront called a casino. And we just assumed it was a casino, but it's not. A casino in Spain is a place where friends and people get together and gather. And at night on the Friday night we were there, Paul and I just thought it was hilarious because everybody's sitting outside, they're all cracking up laughing, all ages, young, old, there's kids running around, there's dogs, there's seniors, and they're all they're all smoking their cigs, they're drinking their wine, and everybody's happy. And I was like, What? We are messing. And it goes back to that the first episode. Where we talked about that little area in Pennsylvania, that togetherness of that Italian culture, even though they were eating poorly. So we are missing something. Yeah. Big time. And talk about the food. ⁓ Are you kidding me? I mean, just we did so Robbie and I went to ⁓ we went to ⁓ Cinquatera, we went to Florence, and we went to Siena Tuscany. And in Siena we did a cooking class. And it was like legit in you guys cook. ⁓ we cooked Papa Al Pomodoro, which is kind of like a a soupy porridge. It was it was delicious. It was made with like stale bread and tomatoes. It was delicious and onion. Really good. And then we made this gorgeous zucchini cream sauce. And then we made peachy, which is a certain kind of pasta. Okay. And ⁓ it the interesting thing is the pasta was not made with the egg. It was literally just water, was it water, flour, salt? I think that was it. Okay. And and just how it was a it it was like a little bit thicker than a spaghetti. And they said if you ever go into a restaurant and you see peachy and it looks perfect, it's not handmade. It's not hand rolled. Yeah. ⁓ so I definitely want to try to make that. It was like delicious. I'm gonna wait for that. Yes, yes. But we were in this literally this Italian home. This was a family home to where we had our one chef cooking. We had to have a interpreter because he only spoke Italian. And the the 15 year old son was literally going into the refrigerator while we're doing all this to grab stuff. Like that's how legit it was. Awesome. Which was so amazing. but just like how they take pride in the cooking and the food and ingredients. Yes. Yes. And they love it. Yeah. Yeah. It's You know, the the taste of tomatoes in Spain and I did a paya cooking class in somebody's apartment, which I was like, Am I gonna get murdered? But there was eight of us and it was fine, I didn't get murdered. But he just talking about the spices and he gets up every morning and he goes and collects the fish for this paella and he picks it and he knows everybody at the market and the spices and the love for food, and you taste it and there's so much flavor and and it's simple. Like one salad we had was sliced tomatoes, sliced onion, a little bit of olive oil and balsamic vinegar. They do love their salt and I do too. And tuna. Mm. And I it was so good. And I tried to recreate it. And it was very good when I made it last night. However, our tomatoes taste like junk. Like there's no juice. There's no fl like what are we doing wrong? We produce so much food. Well, we know what we're doing wrong. But it's the greed, unfortunately, you know. But we we say this time and time again when we start talking about diet and nutrition. It's just our food chain is dwindling and it's sad. Cheap and good out there and like it lasts forever. Again, because people are wanting that fast life. They're wanting that fast lifestyle. And I need to eat on the go and I need to eat something quick because I gotta be on to the next thing. Rather than the really truly slowing down and being able to chew your food and enjoy your food and really taste your food. And for the food to be good and and nourishing and delicious. Like it just it's just I don't know. It is sad. And I know a lot of people won't ever make it over to Europe, whether it's ⁓ due to timing or due to to the cost, right? It's expensive to to go over there. But with what we've done a few times, and this is a good tip for some people who really want to go over there but are trying to save some money. There's many ways that you could still go on on a budget. ⁓ but we would save all of our our credit card points. Yes. And use those for flights. And because the flights are typically super expensive. And then once you get there, there are really cheap ways to travel from town to town, whether it's the trains or the buses, ⁓ you can find less expensive resorts and hotels or Airbnbs or I'm always I'm a cheap traveler. Yeah. I'm not gonna stay in a hostel, but right, right. I'm too old for that. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But there is. You don't need to get the super fancy anything. and their food and stuff like that is not expensive there for for us to go out to all of the dinners that we did. And don't get me wrong, we had our fair share of wine as well. And I mean these dinners were a a third Of what we would spend over here. Same in Spain. It was just amazingly inexpensive. And that's another thing. I'm not gonna condone drinking alcohol. However, me and Paul did sit one night in a cafe and we polished off two bottles of rose and I thought this is gonna be terrible. I gotta get up tomorrow morning early and we gotta do this, that, and the and no. No headache. No headache. The birds are chirping out of Cinderella. What is up with that? It's I mean, I know it's the sulfites, yeah. It's the it's the We want something to last on a shelf forever. That's what somebody said to me the other day when I ta was talking about it. In which when we came back from a vacation. So before we left, it was my son's birthday. And we had a bunch of people over and we just grilled hamburgers and hot dogs, which is the worst thing ever. But anyways, the buns were still on the counter. And I said, Dad, I haven't gone for seven days. I make my own sourdough bread. So I usually my kids typically do not like store-bought bread. So I make sourdough bread. I have a bread machine as well. And if my sourdough bread is good for that day, the next day, and after that, if I don't freeze it for like homemade bread crumbs or something, it's gotta go in the trash 'cause it's going to mold. And all those hamburger buns and dis I threw them all away. Where if it were real solid ingredients, they would be right. You said molded or, you know, right just turned brown and all of the things. So And then you just think what are those things that aren't molding it? What are they doing to our body? Yeah. Yep. Exactly. Exactly. So I mean, you know, coming back to like just traveling and hitting that reset, I know again, so many people are will give the excuse, I don't have time. And it's I hate that excuse. Cause I I wonder what the average amount of time that an American vacations Probably it's probably just the two weeks, right? What do you do? I mean and listen, there's there's so many times that I know my husband would rather just go on like a a four day quick weekend. Great, like a great You know, we could do that going to like the Cayman Islands, which is it's not a far flight. Or even if we were to go out to like Colorado or something, or go up north to New York or something. Because the flight isn't as long, then you don't feel as bad like going. But when you're going to Europe or somewhere like even California or Hawaii, if if it's a long flight, you gotta really make it like make it make sense. Make it work it. Make it work it. And everybody is worthy of that. But there's isn't it interesting that there are some people that don't care if they never see other parts of the world? I just find that interesting. Yeah. Because it's just so not Me, I mean not me either. I love Don't get me wrong. Like I love to travel. We find certain places that we love and we want to go back, like the Cayman Islands, like Cinquatera, like Italy in general, right? We just we we love it. But and I know there are certain other areas of the world that we want to see too, but we can sometimes kind of get into like, but I could just go back to Cayman Islands and I love it so much, or I could just go back to Italy. ⁓ I mean I'm trying to step outside of our comfort zone a little bit more and experience, but being able to experience other cultures is enlightening. It's eye-opening. And you bring something back with you every trip. Every trip, right? Whether it's like a new way of cooking something or slowing down or just appreciating, just even that just sense of gratitude to who And it also just rejuvenates you to get back. To get pumped up about your job or whatever you're you're doing at that moment that you're excited about it, it you know, you start thinking, how can I implement this? How can I implement that into my practice or into the podcast? Or you just start getting ideas and it's you get your juices flowing. I think it's good for the mind. ⁓ absolutely. Absolutely. And and not even like when I was over there, I was also kind of going through a lot, you know, just personally too, where I really was trying to just work through some grief. ⁓ My father passed away literally the day I was leaving for Italy. So that was beautiful, beautiful timing, but also very difficult too, right? so I really used that that trip as a way to be fully present and be present with my my my husband. ⁓ also with my own feelings and just being like, okay, I'm in another gorgeous country and my father would want me to be happy. Yeah. And just being able to to enjoy myself. But then it's like, but then coming back, it I really try to allow myself to number one, like you said, get excited about like life and coming back to your own life. There's something to be said about that. Being able to come back to your own home. If you love your home, you're excited to come back home. Yeah. And you want to see all your friends and family. ⁓ but like with you know, with my father too, I know I needed to like give myself some time to actually like open up to grieve as well. Which is hard. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's it's ⁓ it's been a beautiful experience as as is Death can be. That could probably be another whole conversation. But for me, the that's when I really needed to like grieve. Like I played in Italy and it gave me the time to like play. And every now and then I'd have feelings come up and come and go. And I would just let them. And my husband knew, let just let me, you know. I don't want to suppress anything. But when I was able to come home and feel the true peace of my house, that's when I was able, like, okay, let me get a good cry out. Like really let it let it go. And I'm sure many of those will come up. But I am grateful that I had Italy to kind of like, you know, like some cries out in Italy, but then just the appreciation of being at home also. ⁓ to come back to that was really, really beautiful. So what is like what is one of your favorite things that you brought home from Spain, not physically, but like that you're bringing home into either your life or it can be physical. Hmm, it's probably just the concept of eating cleaner, even though I eat pretty I was gonna say, girl. ⁓ my gosh. But I I'm more passionate now about working on that garden because the flavor of the food is so much better. And unless even going to a farmer's market, I don't know. I mean if things are gonna taste good or it's it's hard, it's hard to get good quality ingredients like they can in Spain. And you have that gift of being able to really grow a garden, know what you're doing. Yeah. Yeah. Even we went to the market and we got these little ⁓ they're green, they're called I think they called c padron peppers. And they're not spicy, but they just kind of tossed them on the grill real quick or like a black stone and then just sprinkled them in ⁓ salt and it was a flaky salt in olive oil. And that was one of my favorite things that I ate. That sounds delicious. So I I'm gonna order those seeds and try growing those because it's it's like we're in a good zone of those types of peppers. But the tomatoes, they make this like pan tomato, whatever. It's basically you just take a slice of bread and you slice garlic in half and you rub it, the fresh garlic, on the bread. And then you take the special tomato, which we can't get here in America, slice it in half and just squeeze it, not the skin, but just squeeze it in salt, thyme. It's delicious. It's sim simple. Yeah. But really good. Yeah. but again, it comes down to the ingredients, the good quality bread, the good quality tomato, you know, so the herbs and Our soil is so depleted here. But I always like I made paella last night, had all the friends over. We made paella. So just trying to use different ingredients. I always try to bring home some the cooking and then, you know, just really re reflect on what what is wrong here and how I can help my patients, you know, balance it all and and know that they don't have to again take there's no magic pill. There's no one magic pill that's gonna fit every fix everything and You know, maybe you need a supplement here and there, but again, I think there's a a bigger picture that ooh we're all missing, right? That big circle, that big blue zone. What what are all the just different components? There's not a quick fix to anything. Yeah. I think for me, I was so appreciative of the physical body, especially when you go to Europe or you know, all of the walking, the walking and the climbing and the hiking, even to just go see some of these beautiful features like we well we did the duomo in Florence and hiking up to the top to see this gorgeous 360 view of Florence. I mean I saw some people that were like that couldn't do it that couldn't do it that are huffing and puffing as they're going up there and I we were coming down as people were going up and I was just like trying to cheer them on like you've got this Just know that there's such a gift at the top. Just keep going. They were almost there. And I think just being in good physical shape. So important. And and do this traveling. Don't wait till you're retired. Because that's the thing. Once you're retired, your body is older and you're not physically able to do some of these things. Unless you I mean, I mean, don't get me wrong. Some people who are retired are I mean, I saw an eighty year old guy hiking in the Cascades. National Park, which I think is in Washington. And I said, What's your secret? And he said, I just don't stop moving. You're eighty years old. Yeah. And we're like, Right. Hiking of this money. I well, we saw we saw ⁓ that we were hiking in Chinquetero. ⁓ so there's it's the five towns and we were trying to hike through the towns. And we came across this older couple, they were probably in their seventies, maybe late seventies, and they got their hiking backpacks, their hiking walking sticks. And they were just getting after it. And it was like, that's what I want to be like. I want to have my body be strong enough, mobile enough, flexible enough to be able to do whatever I want to do as I age. Yeah. When I worked in home health, I I came out realizing that it's your mind and your mobility. Those are two things that I don't want to lose. Yeah. And especially we love hiking. We've hiked so many national parks. I love it. So And the Chinkatera, that is some Yeah. I mean, that's some crazy footing and crazy trails. They're not beautiful trails. They're tricky. You can easily hurt yourself. ⁓ then so I met a guy in the Chinkatera last time I was there last year, and he said the the people that live there that are from there, excellent hearts, terrible knees. Alrighty, yeah. I could see that you can appreciate that after doing some of that. A lot of steps, even though it's just kind going to get down to the train that can take you to all different. All the different villages. ⁓ just the steps in general, right? So good shoes is what I think you need. But it's beautiful, it's breathtaking. If you do go there, you have to do the hiking. Yeah. Cause it's gorgeous. And so it's just like leaving there, I had such appreciation for it. It was like I cannot wait to go back, right? But I think that is one of the biggest things that I've taken back with me. And this is also kind of been that recurring theme of what I bring back, even when I did some of the hikes that I did last year. It's just having that strong, flexible, and mobile body to be able to do all of these things. Because, you know, when you are down low, you don't get the sights and the views and the gorgeousness and the vastness of how beautiful this earth is. And when you go up a little bit higher and you are just looking at some of these views for days and you're like, How is this even real? How is this even real? Right. And that's just talking about the earth, but like also too going to Europe and looking at some of these gorgeous buildings that were built thousands of years ago. And you're just like, how is this even possible? You just can't be in the howl because you'll never understand. Like ⁓ even just walking around Rome at night and you just turn a corner and then there's the Trevi Fountain and you turn the corner, there's the Pantheon. And then it's just like What is going on? How is this even possible? Right. It's beautiful. It really is. So did you walk up? There's a hill that you can walk up and there's like a another David in In Florence. Yeah. You can look down over the whole city. That's pretty well. So we did ⁓ there was this beautiful in the rose garden in Florence. ⁓ we heard that you could go walk up it and see the sunset. So we did that one day and it was ⁓ my God, it was yeah. I mean, you are literally overlooking all of Florence and surrounded by also the the gardens, right? So the liveliness, the oxygen. Were they blooming the roses? ⁓ no. No, no. ⁓ but just like the greenery and the trees, every time I walk into a forest, I can feel the energy of the earth. Yeah, it's it's it's powerful. So I was happy that we were able to get to that point also in Florence because some of the cities are obviously very city, right? You everywhere you're you're on concrete or marble or right. And it's building after building and you don't really get a lot of greenery in life. ⁓ so it was really nice to do that. That's and I really appreciate how we did our trip. We started in Siena Tuscany. We went to Florence, then we went to Chinquatera. And That was beautiful because then we could really be outside and on the coast and you see the ocean and the sunset and just it was spectacular. So that's awesome. I just love I just love our earth so much and I love being you don't have to pay a lot to be able to appreciate our earth and the the gorgeousness, the beauty that it that's When we traveled we were in a camper for eighteen months with the kids and we traveled America and we were all about the national parks and you buy the pass for the year and you hike. Yeah. That was our Itinerary hiking and all you need is water and a good pair of shoes. Yeah. Yeah. Sunscreen and a hat. Yeah. So it's not like we had to travel all over America and see all these different things and eat all these different fancy places. We hiked those national parks and I f Paul remembers how many miles. All the kids and everything. Okay. Well, Faith was still little. She was on his back a lot, screaming her head off. Yeah, so I like it. I did it we did a nine mile hike and ⁓ Catequis. We passed Dali Salvador's like summer home. It was like the two heads on the top. It was weird. ⁓ but it was it was a challenging hike and there's all these gorgeous water holes around the way where you can go swimming. Nude, of course, because it's Spain. And then we got to the top of the lighthouse and had a nice lunch and a sangria. And I actually didn't want to go back. I wanted to get a cab. Yeah. Which we did that in Chinquetera. I was like, honey, I don't want to. I don't want to just get a cab back to the hotel and sit by the pool with my legs. Cause it was flipping hot. Yeah. It got really hot the last few days we were there. Yeah. But we hiked all the way back and it was a good workout. So the point of us doing this chat is really people get out, live life, don't wait because If you wait, it'll just be too long. I know so many people that wait until they're retired to do it and then they have trouble getting out and walking around and and you know, all of the ground, especially in Europe, the ground is unsteady and and you know cobblestone and different yeah. But even if you can't get to Europe, we have great cities. So many beautiful places. Yeah. You can just get in the car, you can go down to Miami and you can feel like any other country. Yeah. Right. You know what I mean? And get Like ⁓ Orlando has a great like Asian strip. I don't know if you've ever been there on Colonial. And I take the kids to the grocery stores and they are in awe. They think they're in another country. It's great, you know. Yeah, yeah. So there's so many other ways. But yeah, get out, keep your body moving, refresh your soul and your spirit and it's a really re it's a slowing down and detaching from your your your ⁓ titles and your responsibilities and your job sometimes, not sometimes, is necessary to detach for just a little bit and you can choose the time, but hopefully it's like seven to ten days. Right. At least once, you know, once a year or once every couple of years, try to go away for that long. But it's really important for your soul. And It is really nice to be able to get out and experience other cultures or ways of doing things. And that could just be state to state, city to city is even. Yeah. Right. If you can't make it over. Yep. So hopefully you guys enjoyed this chat and just ⁓ just a little catch up for us. Right. We haven't seen each other in a little while. So it's kind nice. Yeah. All right, guys. Well, let us know if you guys want to hear any. Topics, want to talk about things, have any questions? I mean, we would love to get some to do. Yeah, maybe we do one that's just like a a QA. Right. So you guys send us, email us what you want your your questions are, and then we'll do a kind of QA quick chat. So all right, guys. Until next time. Peace. Ciao.