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- Lucas: So, there's this landscaping company in Ohio, GreenScape, that hit a wall at around seven million in revenue. Not because they couldn't sell—they had more leads than they could handle. The bottleneck was hiring. Luna: That's such a common story. Everyone thinks scaling is about sales, but the real ceiling is often the team. Lucas: Exactly. And what's interesting is how they fixed it. The owner, Mike Delgado, realized that his hiring process was reactive and unstructured. He'd post a job on a board, wait for resumes, and then interview whoever showed up. No real system. Luna: So what was the first change he made? Lucas: He rewrote his job ads. Instead of listing duties, he emphasized career paths. Things like, 'In two years, you could be running your own crew.' That alone shifted the type of applicants he got—less churn, more long-term thinkers. Luna: It's funny, because most job ads are written like they're for robots. But people want to see a future. Lucas: Right. And he also implemented a referral bonus. But here's the twist—it wasn't just a flat cash amount. He paid out in installments over the new hire's first year, so current employees only referred people they actually believed in. The quality of candidates jumped. Luna: That's smart. A one-time bonus might get you a warm body, but a staggered one gets you a good hire. Lucas: Now, the biggest change was probably the interview scorecard. Mike used to just wing it—ask a few questions, go with his gut. He built a simple rubric scoring for reliability, communication, and motivation. Every interviewer used the same questions, so they could compare candidates fairly. Luna: Did that slow things down? I mean, more structure usually means more time. Lucas: It actually sped things up. Because they knew what they were looking for, they could cut candidates faster. time to hire went from forty-five days down to fifteen. And they stopped making bad hires that would've cost them months later. Luna: So from seven million to fifteen million, all from fixing hiring? Lucas: Pretty much. They didn't add a single salesperson in that period. They just got better at bringing in the right people, which meant they could take on more projects and actually deliver. Now they're at fifteen million and growing. Luna: I love that this is a business show where we can talk about hiring as a growth lever. You don't hear that enough. Lucas: Totally. And if these conversations have moved your work forward in some small way, the way we keep this show ad-free is through listener support. You can head to buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo—it's a simple way to fuel the next episode. Luna: Yeah, every little bit helps us keep digging into stories like GreenScape. Lucas: So back to the scorecard—one thing that surprised me is that Mike also trained his foremen to interview. He realized that the people who'd be managing these hires needed to be part of the process. That's a lesson a lot of founders skip. Luna: Oh, that's a good point. So many owners hire for themselves, not for the team that actually works with them. Lucas: Exactly. And he did this through role-play scenarios in the training, where foremen practiced asking behavioral questions. Like, 'Tell me about a time you had to deal with an unhappy customer.' It gave them confidence and consistency. Luna: And consistency is huge. If one interviewer is tough and another is easy, you get skewed results. Lucas: Right. So now, GreenScape has a repeatable process. They're hiring in waves for the spring season, and they're not scrambling. They know they can fill crews in a couple of weeks, not a couple of months. Luna: That must have changed the whole culture too. When you're not desperate, you can be more selective. Lucas: It did. Attrition dropped, and they started promoting from within. Several crew leads were once entry-level hires. That's the kind of story that makes job ads write themselves. Luna: So if someone listening is stuck at a similar ceiling, what's the first thing you'd tell them to do this week? Lucas: Look at your most recent three hires. Did they all come from the same source? If it's all job boards, you're probably getting the same type of candidate. Mix it up—maybe a referral program or a local trade school partnership. Luna: That's practical. And the scorecard thing—can you give a quick example of a question? Lucas: Sure. For reliability, they might ask, 'What's your system for making sure you show up on time every day?' It's not about the answer—it's about whether they've thought about it. That tells you a lot. Luna: I like that. It's less about right answers and more about self-awareness. Lucas: Exactly. And that's the kind of thing that prevents bad hires, which in a service business can be toxic. One bad apple can drag down a whole crew's morale and your reputation. Luna: So in a way, Mike didn't just fix hiring—he fixed his company's ability to grow without breaking. Lucas: That's the key takeaway. Scaling isn't just about adding zeros to revenue. It's about building systems that can handle the weight. And for many service businesses, the first system that needs to be built is hiring.