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Elevated Life: Welcome to Elevated Life Real Wellness and Transformation podcast, where we walk alongside the internally driven individual as they transform their life through wellness, movement, mindset, and personal responsibility. If that's you, you're in the right place. Let's jump in. Hey friends, if you're getting something out of this, connect with us on our social media platforms. We're at CJElevatedLife underscore on Instagram and TikTok and CJElevatedLife on Facebook and X. We're answering DMs, sharing daily content and building community with people ready for real transformation. For now, hit subscribe wherever you're listening, Apple, Spotify, YouTube. We drop two new episodes every week. And if this episode resonates, share it. Clint: Expanding your consciousness. Alright? I want you to go on YouTube. I want you to type in soft white underbelly. Go to the channel. And then I'd really like you to listen to Vinny's story about his near death experience. We just watched it last night, and if you guys know me at all, I love In-person participant 1: $67 each we also created the parasite detox blueprint at $37 and this is actually the exact protocol And while you're there sign up for the newsletter You'll get the weekly action steps and new tools. We've tested ourselves. Let's get back to the episode Elevated Life: That's how we reach more people who are ready for change. You can also find everything at CJElevatedLife.com. All right, let's keep going. Johnna: about his near death experience. We just watched it last night and if you guys know me at all, I love listening to testimonies of near death experiences because it flies in the face of burn baby burn. And wh why do you look at me like that? How so? Well, like, ⁓ you know, you die and if you don't keep these certain set of rules Clint - Mic: You'll get the weekly action steps and new tools we've tested ourselves. Let's get back to the episode. Clint: listening to testimonies of near death experiences because it flies in the face of burn baby burn. Hm. And wh why do you look at me like that? How so? Well, like, ⁓ you know, you die and if you don't keep these certain set of rules then burn baby burn. Okay. I got you. So fear based religion versus Johnna: Then burn baby burn, right? So fear-based religion versus love-based source, creator of the planet, all of those things. It will intrigue you and probably inspire you to listen to other near-death experiences. So let's talk about it. Let's talk ⁓ just I don't want to give certain things away with Vinny's story, but Clint: Love-based source, creator of the planet, all of those things. It will intrigue you and probably inspire you to listen to Sure. Johnna: ⁓ what did you think? What was your takeaway? 'Cause I loved every second of it. It's it's fascinating, just kind of the general takeaway. Clint: It's it's fascinating, just kind of the general takeaway, I guess. ⁓ because if you're not familiar with Soft White Underbelly, it it's essentially just an interview and the whole video is just the camera on the person that's talking and every once in a while you hear the the guy who makes it, you know, he asks a couple of questions, but it's not like ⁓ you know, every few minutes asking questions. It's this one was fifty six minutes or something and it's like fifty four minutes of Vinny talking. Yeah. Johnna: if you're not familiar with software underbelly, it it's essentially just an interview. ⁓ And the whole video is just the camera on the person that's talking. Mm-hmm. And every once in a while you hear the the guy who makes it, you know, he asks a couple of questions. But it's not like you know, every few minutes asking questions. It's this one was fifty six minutes or something. Yeah. And it's like fifty four minutes of Vinny talking. Yeah. And you know, there's just a background, you know, like a green screen thing, but not it's just color. Right. And that's it. Yeah. And it is so intriguing. Yeah. That hour went by so fast. It did. Just it it's just a a testament to a good story. Mm will captivate you. We don't need Clint: And y you know, there's just a background, you know, like a green screen thing, but not it's just color. And that's it. Yeah. And it is so intriguing. I mean, that hour went by so fast. It did. Just it it's just a a testament to a good story will captivate you. We don't need flashing lights and bells and whistles and everything. So just on the surface, not even talking about his specific story, just on that is is it it tells you a lot about what you need to know about South White Underbelly. You know, that's the kind of stuff that that he's producing. And I Johnna: flashing lights and bells and whistles and everything. So just on the surface, not even talking about his specific story, just o that is is it it tells you a lot about what you need to know about soft white underbelly. Yeah. The kind of stuff that that he's producing. And I am a bit obsessed with soft white underbelly because as, you know, ⁓ humans do such a good job, unfortunately, not all of us, but of judging people, right? Judging the homeless, judging the drug addicted, judging the whatever. And when you can sit and listen to their stories that got them to the point that they are currently, I mean it's just like, well, fuck no shit. Yeah. You know, your your compassion level Clint: Yeah. You know, your your compassion level really grows because people we said this Johnna: really grows because people we've said this before, they don't just wake up and they're like, ⁓ today I want to be a heroin addict and ⁓ you know, give my kids away and it's so touching and so real and raw to me that it just and sometimes I can't look at it, you know, based on whatever story is being told because it's just so heartbreaking. It's just so heartbreaking, but it really can help you understand Just humanity. Yeah, absolutely. So you want to get into this guy's story over there? Yeah, let's just talk briefly about it. So the the the the high level, super high level, ⁓ him and his buddy were young, mid twenties, bodybuilders, got some weird ⁓ supplement. Supplement from Thailand. Yeah, you know, 'cause it was recovery stuff, whatever, and and took it and instantly started feeling sick. Clint: Yeah, absolutely. So you wanna get into this guy's story a little bit? Let's just talk briefly about it. So the the the the high level, super high level, ⁓ him and his buddy were young, mid twenties, bodybuilders, got some weird ⁓ supplement from Thailand, you know, 'cause it was recovery stuff, whatever, and and took it and instantly started feeling sick. So they thought they needed food, went down to the Dairy Queen Johnna: So they thought they needed food, went down to the Dairy Queen, ⁓ just you know, right there local and barely made it in. He made it into the bathroom and got the door locked. His buddy just like made it to the first booth, started throwing up, passed out, whatever, so the you know, the medics got him the ⁓ the buddy. This guy died in the bathroom with the door locked. Yeah. And he was in there about an hour before somebody was complaining that, you know Clint: ⁓ just, you know, right there local and barely made it in. He made it into the bathroom and got the door locked. His buddy just like made it to the first booth, started throwing up, passed out, whatever, so the you know, the medics got him the ⁓ the buddy. This guy died in the in the bathroom with the door locked. And he was in there about an hour before somebody was complaining that, you know, the door'd been locked for an hour, so they unlocked it, went in there, found it. So Johnna: door been locked for an hour, so they unlocked it, went in there, found it. So all this time he's talking about what he can see. Yeah. And what he feels. And he can see the whole thing playing out. And he doesn't realize really that it's him in the bathroom. But, you know, he can he can see everything that's going on. He can see the the medics that come and and he can hear things that, you know, normally just Clint: all this time he's talking about what he can see and what he feels and he can see the whole thing playing out and he doesn't realize really that it's him in the bathroom but you know he can he can see ⁓ everything that's going on, he can see the the medics that come and and he can hear things that, you know, normally Just 3D humans don't hear. And so it's the first part of it is just him retelling this experience. Yeah, and that the Johnna: 3D humans don't hear. Right. And so it's the first part of it is just him retelling this experience. Yeah. And the the really just fascinating part about listening to NDEs is when they go into the afterlife, the the wave of love and feeling like they're home. Like, ⁓ my goodness, I'm finally home. Clint: Mm-hmm. Johnna: And I don't know about you guys, but I always feel like a stranger on this planet, like constantly. Like this is not where I originated from. I have felt that way since I was a child. And so so the the curious part is that everyone gets a life review, right? And their guides take them on this life review. And what I love about the life review is it's not just You know, the mistakes that you have made because there's compassion in those mistakes. It's not this, you did this, blah blah. There's compassion in that, but it's also like ⁓ the good things that you did. And then you get to hear and witness it from the other people that experienced your goodness, but also when you were awful to someone, because we're all human and we have those human moments, you can see the ripple effect. of your behavior you can hear the other people's thoughts that experienced that and that to me is just like beyond fascinating because you don't understand what ⁓ how your behavior affects other people even if it's just you know you walk by someone and you smile at them on the road and you say you know what I really like your shoes they look great today It just it so you get this life review where all these little things, you know, you can hear what the other people are thinking. Go ahead. That was the most fascinating part to me. Yeah. Is the ⁓ when he was talking about it and and it's not unique, you know, you know a lot of every single ND Clint: It just it so you get this life review where all these little things, you know, you can hear what the other people are thinking. Yeah, that that was the most fascinating part to me. Yeah is the ⁓ when he was talking about it. And and it's not unique, you know, you hear it in a lot of Andy's talking about there were there were negatives and positives that he didn't even realize. Yeah. And then got to experience those from the other people's perspective. Cause you know, I get it like, you know, I was a dick to somebody and then I saw, ⁓ yeah, that made ⁓ feel bad. Okay. You know, whatever. But the the times like you're talking about where where you have an interaction that you don't even think about. Yeah. And how it impacts somebody else. And then being able to see that from their perspective. Johnna: there were there were negatives and positives that he didn't even realize. Yeah. And then got to experience those from the other people's perspective. Cause you know, I I get it like, you know, I was a dick to somebody and then I saw ⁓ yeah, that made ⁓ feel bad. Okay. You know, whatever. But the the times like you're talking about where where you have an interaction that you don't even think about. Yeah. And how it impacts somebody else. And then being able to see that from their perspective. Yeah. Is incredible. And the joy that it brings them. And then, you know, like I said earlier, that ripple effect. So then what do they do? They're feeling good and lovely. And so then they do that to someone else. And then that ripple effect just goes on and on and on. I wish that humanity Clint: And the joy that it brings them and then And lovely, and so then they do that to someone else, and then that ripple. that humanity could I wish all of us could really understand this because we I had this epiphany. just real quick before we get into that, because that's gonna just to to promote this a little bit more without giving any spoilers, there were a couple twists in his story that were just John. Yeah. Like I mean Johnna: Could I wish all of us could really understand this because we I had this big epiphany. ⁓ just real quick before we get into that. Yeah. Because that's gonna just to to promote this a little bit more. Yeah, let's do that. Yeah. There were a couple twists in the story that were just jaw dropping. Yeah. Like, I mean, we you know when we were Clint: We you know, when we were talking about it after we got done watching it, like, can you imagine that happening? Yeah. You know, stuff when when he ⁓ came back. Mm-hmm. Cause it turns out I don't think is a spoiler. He was he was brain dead for days. Yeah. And then, ⁓ you know, came back, whatever. And then when he was talking about ⁓ after coming back and some things that happened are just like the It gives me chicken. ⁓ I was just say I It's just ⁓ like Johnna: Yeah. You know, stuff when when he came back. Mm-hmm. It turns out I don't think this is a spoiler. He was he was brain dead for three days. Yeah. And then, you know, came back, whatever. And then when he was talking about after coming back and some things that happened that are just like the It gives me chicken skin. Like right. I I'm it's just like the most amazing thing and it really when you d dig deep into N D Clint: The most amazing thing and it really when you dig deep into ND NDEs, you understand that source is not s you know, a guy in the sky that's just ready to zap you. Right. You did this back. ⁓ you suck. This is your very first human experience that you're aware of. And you have to do everything perfect and fear-based garbage. That is not who Johnna: NDEs, you understand that source is not you know a guy in the sky that's just ready to zap you. Right. You did this bad. ⁓ you suck. This is your very first human experience that you're aware of, and you have to do everything perfect and fear-based garbage. That is not who the creator is. It just isn't. It and so when you hear Clint: the creator is. It just isn't. And and so when you hear story after story after story, it's just like, okay, this is really painting a clear picture because so many live in that fear, anxiety of dying and it it was so interesting to me with Benny because he's like, I just want to go back. Like, I'm ready to go back. You know, he's like I'm not towards the end, I'm not doing anything to like off my Johnna: story after story after story. It's just like, okay, this is really painting a clear picture because so many live in that fear, anxiety of dying. And it it was so interesting to me with Vinny because he's like, I just want to go back. Like I'm ready to go back. You know, he's like, I'm not towards the end. I'm not doing anything to like off myself, but man, like I have zero fear. Clint: myself but man like I have zero fear yeah of the afterlife. Yeah. And I just also think that it would be good for humanity to study that you know MDEs so that you can understand how your behavior affects other people. You know, just these small seemingly ⁓ nothing interactions, how they really ⁓ contribute Johnna: of the afterlife. And I just also think that it would be good for humanity to study that you know, NDEs, so that you can understand how your behavior affects other people. You know, just these small, seemingly ⁓ nothing interactions, how they really ⁓ can change the world. So on Clint: So on that note, let's talk about your epiphany. Yeah, yeah. Johnna: Yeah, I had this epiphany ⁓ last week. So we're s we're selling the gym, we're in talks with some people, whatever. And ⁓ you know, we had this meeting and it was expressed h how much the gym is loved and you know, it's just really sad that there's a potential of it just we're closing doors. Clint: So we're s we're selling the gym, we're in talks with some people, whatever. And you know, we had this meeting and it was expressed how much the gym is loved and you know, it's just really sad that there's a potential of it just we're closing doors. And it really got me thinking, and just some other events that have happened in this past year Johnna: And it really got me thinking, and just some other events that have happened in this past year, why are we so ⁓ tight-lipped with expressing to people how much we love and care and appreciate them? Why is that? Why is it that you know we have to have a death or a sickness or something, a business that you love? why are we so ⁓ tight-lipped with expressing to people how much we love and care and appreciate them? Why is that? Why is it that you know we have to have a death ⁓ or a sickness ⁓ or something, a business that you love? Clint: be so ⁓ tight lipped with expressing to people how much we love and care and appreciate them. Why is that? Why is it that you know we have to have a death or a sickness or something, a business that you love closing down. For for be so ⁓ tight lipped with expressing to people how much we love and care and appreciate them. Why is that? Why is it that you know we have to have a death or a sickness or something, a business that you love closing down. For for Johnna: closing down for for us to be able to express real raw human emotion. And I seriously it made me cry. it is so sad that it has to get to that point before ⁓ we can freely it costs nothing, ⁓ nothing to kind things to each other. ⁓ Why do wait? closing down for for us to be able to express real raw human emotion. And I seriously it made me cry. Like because it just is so sad that it has to get to that point before we can just freely it costs nothing, nothing to say kind things to each other. Why do we wait? I'm asking you. Clint: us to be able to express real raw human emotion. And I seriously it made me cry. just so sad that it has to get to that point before ⁓ we can just it costs nothing. Nothing to say kind things to each other. ⁓ Why do we us to be able to express real raw human emotion. And I seriously it made me cry. Like because it just is so sad that it has to get to that point before we can just freely it costs nothing. Nothing to say kind things to each other. Why do we wait? I'm asking you. Do you know Beard of Knowledge? That's a great question. Why do we do that? Johnna: Do you know beard of knowledge? That's a gr why we wait. Why do we do that? And it's well so Clint: And it's well, so before I give my thoughts on that, the the added part of that that's fascinating to me is how often when when people talk about those things, you know, at a funeral or at something closing, one of the things that you hear so much is exactly what you're saying. Like, why didn't you know, why didn't we honor this person when they were alive? Yeah. When they could have have heard it and been part Johnna: one of the things that you hear so much is exactly what you're saying. Yeah. Like why didn't you know, why didn't we honor this person when they were alive? Yeah. When they could have have heard it and been part of it. You know, why don't we do that? Why, why, why, why and then never happens. Rarely. Sometimes, but it never does. And I think it's you know I really think it is Clint: Part of it. You know, why don't we do that? Why, why, why, why and then never happens. Or rarely. Sometimes it does, but it never does. And I think it's, you know, I really think it is a wiring in us and I don't know where it comes from. I used to think it was just our like our caveman animal instincts. I don't know anymore. I don't know I don't know shit about shit is what I do know. But the more you start to know the more you Yeah. But so wherever it comes from, I think we are we're wired to see danger. Johnna: a wiring in us and I don't know where it comes from. I used to think it was just our like our caveman animal instincts. I don't know anymore. I don't know I don't know shit about shit is what I do know. Yeah, the more you start to know the more you d don't know. Yeah. But so wherever it comes from, I think we are we're wired to see danger slash negative. You know, 'cause it's kinda that kind of lives in the same world. Clint: slash negative, you know, 'cause it's kinda that kinda lives in the same world. And so when that's also being fed to us all the time. Sure, but Yeah. So we're wired to see this Johnna: And so when And it's also being fed to us all the time. Sorry, I just wanted to add that back. Yeah. So we're wired to see this the the dangers, you know. So if you go back to like caveman time and I just heard I judged read or something about just as a quick aside, there's a a kindergarten, I think was in Japan. Clint: The the dangers, you know, so if you go back to like caveman time and I just heard I judge read or something about just as a quick aside, there's a a kindergarten, I think it was in Japan, that all the kids at nap time they they sleep outside and if there's no bird sounds they'll pipe in bird sounds because bird sounds are so calming to humans because one scientifically one thing they indicate if you know if you go Johnna: that all the kids at nap time they they sleep outside and if there's no bird sounds they'll pipe in bird sounds because bird sounds are so calming to humans. I agree. Because one scientifically one thing they indicate if you know if you go back like what I'm talking about, if the birds are chirping, it's everything's probably okay. When the birds stop. Clint: go back like what I'm talking about, if the birds are chirping, it's everything's probably okay. When the birds stop, something's going on. Well can't you do I mean it's this is just triggering a conversation that we've had because we love to sit out and look at the birds and listen to the birds. Johnna: Something's going on. Well, can't you d I mean it's this is just triggering a conversation that we've had because we love to sit out and look at the birds and listen to the birds. And if it's summer, spring, or bird time, yeah. Even in winter for us, we have birds in the winter. Yeah. We're like, why are the birds quiet? What's going on? So yeah, we've had that conversation. So it's interesting. I'm sorry I didn't want to cut you off, but go ahead. So then if you if you extrapolate that out into what we're talking about. Clint: And if it's summer, spring or bird time. Yeah. Even in winter for us, we have birds in the winter. Yeah. We're like, why are the birds quiet? Yeah. What's going on? Something yes, exactly. No, that's that's great. Go ahead. So then if you if you extrapolate that out into what we're talking about here, it's kind of the same wiring of I'm not recognizing in my you know, in my subconscious or in in my wiring, I'm not recognizing positive because it's just good. I don't need to react to it because there's no danger in it. There's no, you know, I don't have to fend off a saber toothed tiger or whatever. It's just it's just Johnna: in my you know, in my subconscious or in in my wiring, I'm not recognizing positive. Because it's just good. I don't need to react to it because there's no danger in it. There's no, you know, I don't have to fend off a saber tooth tiger or So I don't need to feed the good. It's just existing. Or not even think about it. Clint: there and I just get to be in it and then it becomes so easy to just take it for granted or not even think about it. But then when you know when danger, when negativity, somebody dying or getting sick, a business closing, somebody even leaving, you know, moving away, whatever, though that triggers the now I'm thinking about this. And so then you go, you know, you start reflecting, like, ⁓ there was so much good here, but I didn't really like Johnna: But then when you know, when danger, when negativity, somebody dying or getting sick, a business closing, somebody even leaving, you know, moving away, whatever, th that triggers the now I'm thinking about this. Right. And so then you go you know, you start reflecting like, ⁓ there was so much good here, but I didn't really like Clint: Okay. just as an example, for any of the people that we're talking about with the gym, if if we asked them or somebody asked them about the gym, they would have said the same things. You know, we love it. It's a great community, you know, and th yeah. But it's just not at the forefront because, you know, even that asking then triggers that thought. We just we don't have the the capacity with everything going on to hold positive thoughts in the front of our mind because we don't need to Johnna: just as an example for any of the people that we're talking about with the gym, if if we asked them or somebody asked them about the gym, they would have said the same things. You know, we love it, it's a great ⁓ for sure. And they've done that. And yeah. Yeah. But it's just not at the forefront because, you know, even that asking then triggers that thought. Sure. We just we don't have the the capacity with everything going on to hold positive thoughts in the front of our mind. Because we don't need to, you know, physiologically, I guess, or you know, there's no threat with positivity. Well, I would just want to inspire people to start to rewire your brain and look for the good and speak it out. If you s be observant. Can we start being just like self-aware? Clint: you know, physiologically, I guess, or you know, there's no threat with positivity. Well, I would just want to inspire people to start to rewire your brain. Mm-hmm. And look for the good and speak it out. If you s be observant, can we start being just like self aware and observant of the humans and the situations around us and being able to speak to infuse that with more positivity or kindness. Right? I mean how hard is it if you're passing someone on the street to give ⁓ a smile? Yeah. How hard is that? Or just to say, your hair looks nice today. I like your dress. Whatever. Like the smallest acts Johnna: And observant of the humans and the situations around us and being able to speak to infuse that with more positivity or kindness, right? I mean, how hard is it if you're passing someone on the street to give them a smile? Yeah. How hard is that? Or just to say, your hair looks nice today. I like your dress. Whatever. Like the smallest acts. have the hugest impact. And so anyway, go ahead. I was just gonna say it reminds me of you know we've done several Clint: have the hugest impact. Mm-hmm. And so anyway, guys. I was just gonna say it reminds me of you know, we've done several podcasts, but w in the way back when we first started talking about tools for, you know, your if when you're elevating and ch you know, raising your frequency and vibration and everything, and gratitude and how critical gratitude is and how it can be hard if you're you know, if you haven't lived in gratitude for a long time, it can be overwhelming almost. Johnna: the way back when we first started talking about tools for, you know, your when you're elevating and ch you know, raising your frequency and vibration and everything, and gratitude and how critical gratitude is. And how it can be hard if you're you know, if you haven't lived in gratitude for a long time. It can be overwhelming almost. But just find one thing. Yeah. Find one little thing. Or it could be a big thing, but just find one thing in a day that you're grateful for and live in that for even just a couple seconds. Yeah. And then once you start you know, that's how you start building that muscle. That's the one snowflake. And then yeah, exactly. That builds into a bomb. So then this is the exact same thing. If you Clint: But just find one thing. Find one little thing. Or it could be a big thing, but just find one thing in a day that you're grateful for and live in that for even just a couple seconds. Yeah. And then once you start, you know, that's how you start building that muscle. And then yeah, exactly. Yep. So then this is the exact same thing. If you, you know, if you smile at one person or hold the door open or, you know, whatever those find one. Johnna: you know, if you smile at one person or hold the door open or, you know, whatever those find one little thing, little, quote unquote, ⁓ that you can do, then then you start building that habit and then and then it's the snowflake and all of a sudden it's lots of snowflakes and then you're you're building that momentum. Clint: one little thing, little, quote unquote, ⁓ that you can do, then then you start building that habit and then and then it's the snowflake and all of a sudden it's lots of snowflakes and then you're you're building that momentum. And then it's a ripple effect to humanity. Johnna: And then it's a ripple effect to humanity. It's so easy right now to get, guys, this world we live on is just fucked up. Okay, on all levels. It is so exhausting to live here and also like participate in the exhaustion. We already know that every single thing is corrupted. It is all corrupted. Clint: is just fucked up. Okay, on all levels. It is so exhausting to live here and also like participate in the exhaustion. We already know that every single thing is corrupted. It is all corrupted. And you can let that consume you Johnna: And you can let that consume you, or if you want to be the change, right? Everyone talks about being the change, and then they're like, ⁓ that guy, he's the next leader. ⁓ that person, ⁓ they get to do that, them, them, them. If you start just being the change for yourself, then that ripple effect can absolutely be the massive change. And I'm just gonna circle back to the NDE. Clint: Or if you want to be the change, right? Everyone talks about being the change and then they're like, ⁓ that guy, he's the next leader. ⁓ that person, ⁓ they get to do that, them, them, them. If you start just being the change for yourself, then that ripple effect can absolutely be the massive change and I'm just gonna circle back to the NDE because every NDE story that I've heard and I'm obsessed with them all is that. Is the good being the massive ripple effect that literally can change humanity. So why aren't we doing it? Right. Why? Because we're not aware. We're really in our own world thinking about our own shit Johnna: Because every N D E story that I've heard, and I'm obsessed with them all, is that is the good being the massive ripple effect that literally can change humanity. So why aren't we doing it? Right. Why? Because we're not aware. We're really in our own world thinking about our own shit, ⁓ main character syndrome. And we all ⁓ Clint: ⁓ main character syndrome and we all Johnna: Have moments, right? I'm not like pointing the finger of going, You're a main character person. I've you know, we all are. ⁓ but just becoming more aware of how you can be a blessing in that day. And if you don't know how, ask Spirit, like Spirit, sh give me an opportunity to be a blessing to someone, to say something nice to someone, to hold the door, to help someone with groceries. ⁓ just to smile. You know, if you're an introvert, just to smile. Like that might be a big thing. Clint: have moments, right? I'm not like pointing the finger going, You're a main character person. I've you know be all course. Yeah. ⁓ but just becoming more aware of how you can be a blessing in that day. And if you don't know how, ask Spirit. Like Spirit sh give me an opportunity to be a blessing to someone, to say something nice to someone, to hold the door, to help someone with groceries. ⁓ just to smile. You know if you're an introvert, just a smile. Like that might be a big thing, right? Just lift your head up and smile at someone else. Instead of the constant chatter of, ⁓ did you see blah blah blah? ⁓ did you see what Donald Trump's doing? Did you see what, you know, whoever, whatever that that looks like. You're also feeding into that. So let's shift our gaze and start feeding into the positive. And yes, it starts with gratitude. That's just Johnna: Right, just lift your head up and smile at someone else. Instead of the constant chatter of, ⁓ did you see blah blah blah? ⁓ did you see what Donald Trump's doing? Did you see what, you know, whoever, whatever that that looks like. You're also feeding into that. So let's shift our gaze and start feeding into the positive. And yes, it starts with gratitude. That's just what it is. One of the other Clint: One of the other things and again I don't think this is really a a spoiler, but it really it really hit home with me. ⁓ one of the things that Vinny said when he was when I mean when he was dead, when he was experiencing his interesting how Johnna: Spoiler, but it really it really hit home with me. ⁓ one of the things that Vinny said when he dead. He was experiencing It was interesting how he called himself the body. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was so curious. I know we didn't anyway, that just triggered. I was like, yeah. Yeah, that was fascinating too. but he said one of the things that that his guide told him was, you know, humans get so caught up in thinking bas well, I'll just say this. He said Clint: The body. Yeah. Yeah. That was so. Yeah. Yeah, that was fascinating too. ⁓ but he said one of the things that that his guide ⁓ told him was, you know, humans get so caught up in thinking b bas well, I'll just say this. He said this is a clo the earth. Johnna: This is a c earth. Earth is a classroom, not a courtroom. ⁓ we didn't even talk about that. Yeah. Say that again, louder for the people in the back. Earth is a classroom. Clint: Earth is a classroom, not a courtroom. ⁓ we didn't even talk about that. Yeah. And louder for the people. Earth is a classroom, not a courtroom. And you know, so that with if you go back to the idea that we're talking about here, plus it goes it just touches on so many other things. Like we're all here to learn. We're not here to be judged. We're not and we're not here to defend ourselves. You know, we're not we're not here to make a point. Johnna: Yeah. And you know, so that with if you go back to the idea that we're talking about here, plus it go it just touches on so many other things, we're all here to learn. We're not here to be judged. We're not and we're not here to defend ourselves. You know, we're not we're not here to make a point. Yeah. We're here to learn. Totally. And and help each other learn. Yeah. And that's just one way to do that, to learn love. Clint: We're here to learn. Totally. And and help each other learn. Yeah. And that's just one way to do that. To learn love. Smile at somebody. Right. Johnna: Smile at somebody. Right. It you know, it's hard because I don't care what religion you have ever been a part of, except for maybe Buddhism or okay, there's a couple of them. Sure. You are taught that this earth ⁓ is a courtroom and ⁓ judge, and baby, burn. So when you have someone have an NDE and their spirit guide is walking them through in love and compassion and saying it's not a courtroom. Clint: You know, it's hard because I don't care what religion have ever been a part of, except for maybe Buddhism or okay, there's a couple of us. Sure. You are taught that this earth is a courtroom. Mm-hmm. ⁓ And judge, jury ⁓ and burn baby burn. So when you have someone have an NDE and their spirit guide is walking them through in love and compassion and saying it's not a courtroom, it is a classroom, I I would think that the average Joe who started researching this, the weight of ⁓ my gosh, fear based, I can't move, but then as I was thinking about it, you know, the God of the Old Testament Johnna: It is a classroom. I I would think that the average Joe who started researching this, the weight of ⁓ my gosh, fear-based, I can't move. But then as I was thinking about it, you know, the God of the Old Testament, very much a judge. Yeah. Very much, I'm jealous, but you better not fucking be jealous. I'm gonna kill people, but you better not kill people. Clint: Very much a judge. Very much I'm jealous but you better not fucking be jealous. I'm gonna kill people, but you better not kill people. Right? So it's just like now I understand ⁓ the reason why people who ⁓ just are are crippled by religiosity are so judgmental. Yeah. Because that God Johnna: Right. So it's just like now I understand ⁓ the reason why people who ⁓ just are are crippled by religiosity are so judgmental. Yeah. Because that God is so judgmental. That's just what it is. And it was like this massive epiphany this morning where I was like, ⁓ well, of course the the followers beget the leader. Clint: is so judgmental. That's just what it is. And it was like this massive epiphany this morning where I was like, ⁓ well of course the the followers we get the leader. Right. Even though Yeshua, separate from the God of the Bible, in my opinion says the exact opposite. Mm-hmm. So that the reason why I believe it's separate is because scripture says God doesn't change. Mm-hmm. Right? The same yesterday, today and forever. Johnna: Right? Even though Yeshua, separate from the God of the Bible, in my opinion, says the exact opposite. So that the reason why I believe it's separate is because scripture says God doesn't change. Right? The same yesterday, today, and forever. So how can it be judge, jury, executionist, jealous? ⁓ you know, all of those things, and then all of a sudden it shifts. Clint: So how can it be judge, jury, executionist, jealous, ⁓ you know, all of those things and then all of a sudden it shifts, right? There's there's no ⁓ consistency in that. And and that's confusing to people. Yeah, and it helps, you know, it it helps put people in that are especially that are followers, especially of the old testament God in some form. Johnna: Right, there's there's no ⁓ consistency and that and and that's confusing to people. So anyway. Yeah, and it helps, you know, it it helps put people in in that are especially that are followers, especially of the Old Testament God in some form. ⁓ it it helps shed light on really what their mindset is and the driver Clint: ⁓ it it helps shed light on really what their mindset is and the driver of so many of their behaviors because if you're well, just as a quick aside, you know, I don't think we talked about on here the Johnna: so many of their behaviors because if your well just as a quick aside, you know, I don't think we talked about on here the the other documentary that we've ⁓ I was gonna mention it. Bring it up. We've been documentarying it up. Yeah, so it was just briefly, it was a documentary about the fundamentalist Latter day Saints, and essentially it it started when Warren Jeffs, who was their leader, went to prison ⁓ and then Clint: the other documentary that we watched. I was gonna mention it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So it was just briefly, it was a documentary about the fundamentalist Latter day Saints. And essentially it it started when Warren Jeffs, who was their leader, went to prison. ⁓ and then, you know, there were a lot of different sex sects within the sex and sex well both, yeah. Ex and Johnna: sex within the sex and sex. Ex and T. Yeah. ⁓ w within the FDLS community. And this is just one guy that was like, ⁓ hey, I'm the prophet now. Well it was called the Prophet on Netflix, right? The ⁓ false prophet. Okay. But Prophet was in the Sure. For sure. Yeah. ⁓ but but so it was you know th so this new guy and then Clint: wi within the FDLS community and this is just one guy that was like, ⁓ hey, I'm the prophet now. Well it was called the Prophet Netflix, right the ⁓ false prophet. Okay. But Prophet was in the t title for sure. ⁓ but but so it was you know, th so this new guy and then and then these women, you know, it it's very if you've done any research or watched anything about FDLS communities, it followed, you know, it followed along the same lines. There wasn't anything like earth shattering and that. But it was just such another example of, ⁓ this is this is just how so many of them were raised from infancy to this is what you believe Johnna: And then these women, you know, it it's a very if you've done any research or watched anything about FDLS communities, it followed, you know, followed along the same way. There wasn't anything like earth shattering and that. But it was just such another example of ⁓ this is this is just how so many of them were raised. From infancy to this is what you believe and if you don't believe this, you're gonna burn in hell for eternity. Yeah. And and so just like what we're talking about, this is what reminded me with the you know, the the judgmental god, if that's just w the only thing you've ever known, how can you not think judgment is appropriate? Totally. That's just that's Clint: And if you don't believe this, you're gonna burn in hell for eternity. And and so just like what we're talking about, this is what reminded me with the you know, the the judgmental God, if that's just w the only thing you've ever known, how can you not think judgment is appropriate? Because that's just that's my dude is telling me because this is what he's showing me. You know, and so so it's it it really helps me to put things into perspective of ⁓ no, this is why these people, you know, this group ⁓ is like this. This is why they're judgmental and everything, because that's all they've ever known. Yeah, and that's their God and also that's their prophet. Right. I mean we ⁓ it the fear is just like, you know, at the end of the documentary Johnna: My dude is telling me. Totally. Because this is what he's showing me. Yeah. You know, and so so it's it it really helps me to put things into perspective of ⁓ no, this is why these people, you know, this group ⁓ is like this. This is why they're judgmental and everything, because that's all they've ever known. Yeah, and that's their God and also that's their prophet, right? I mean we've ⁓ it the fear is just like, you know, ⁓ At the end of the documentary, they interviewed some girls that had gone to prison and kind of you know turned away from all that. And they first of all, they were like, Prison set me free. Yeah. Okay. So this is that was bonkers to me. I'm like, ⁓ prison set me free. But then also I was so scared to burn in hell. Clint: they interviewed some girls that had gone to prison and kind of, you know, turned away from all that. And they first of all they were like, prison set me free. Yeah. Okay, so this is that was bonkers. Like, prison set me free. But then also I was so scared to burn in hell. Johnna: Forever and ever and ever and ever. That is scary. People will do things to not do that, right? Who who's like, I wanna sign up for that, right? It's just, I mean, we watched another documentary about TikTok dancers who got sucked into a cult too. Same situation. You're gonna burn in hell forever. It's a perfect way. If you don't give me money, you're gonna burn in hell forever. And because they're like, ⁓ and these were not charismatic. Clint: forever and ever and ever and ever. That is scary. Mm-hmm. People will do things to not do that. Yeah. Who w who's like, I wanna sign up for that, right? It's just I mean, we watched another documentary about TikTok dancers who got sucked into a cult too. Same situation. Exactly. Burn in hell forever. Yep. It's a perfect way if you don't give me money you're gonna burn in hell forever. Yeah. And because they're like ⁓ and These were not charismatic cult eaters. No. You know, I was like, well, hell, you can totally just be a complete derelict ⁓ and have a cult Donald Trump. Yeah. So anyway, ⁓ it's just curious how when you infuse fear, you can have the population do anything. Yeah. And you know, we were not given a spirit of fear, right? Johnna: Cult leaders. You know, I was like, well, hell, you could totally just be a complete derelict and have a cult, Donald Trump. ⁓ did I just say that? Okay. So anyway, ⁓ it's just curious how when you infuse fear, you can have the population do anything. And, you know, we were not given a spirit of fear, right? But of peace and a sound mind. Clint: But a peace and a sound mind. That is a scripture. So wait a second, were we given a spirit of beer or were we not? Like, mm, there's some stuff going on there. So anyway, it's been really curious to watch these documentaries and again not out of judgment because you know, if you are born and raised in a situation like this, you don't know any different. You don't. And if you're told you're gonna burn forever Johnna: That is a scripture. So wait a second, were we given a spirit of air or were we not? Like there's some stuff going on there. So anyway, it's been really curious to watch these documentaries and again, not out of judgment, because you know, if you are born and raised in a situation like this, you don't know any different. You don't. And if you're told you're gonna burn forever, y you might do anything to not burn forever. Clint: You might do anything to not burn forever. Yeah. But then there's this flip side called Johnna: But then there's this flip side called NDEs where people have gone to the other side and they've come back and they have messages and we can learn from them and learn love and compassion and that again earth is a school, it's not a courtroom. Doesn't that just make you exhale? You know what I mean? I think Clint: a school, it's not a courtroom. Doesn't that just make you exhale? You know what I mean? I think the since we went back to the NDEs, I think ⁓ another fascinating component of them and and not as much this guy because he had some religious background before he had it. Johnna: And not as much this guy, because he had some Clint: But the ones that are truly fascinating to me are the ones that, you know, I was an atheist or I was just so agnostic about everything. I didn't, you know, cause we could atheism and agnosticism are different, but ⁓ I just I didn't I didn't know, I didn't care. You know, I was like, whatever. Johnna: But the ones that are truly fascinating to me are the ones that, you know I was an atheist. I know. I was just so agnostic about everything, I didn't you know, 'cause we could atheism ⁓ I just I didn't I didn't know, I didn't care. Yeah. You know, I was like, whatever. And then they have this experience. So it's not like it was programmed into them you know, that some guide or angel No, they didn't even believe in that stuff. Yeah. I don't even know about it. You know, I'm not I'm not whatever. I'm as far away from that as possible. And then Clint: And then they had this experience. So it's not like it was programmed into them, you know, that some guide or angel was gonna come and like, I don't believe in any of that shit. I don't even know about it. You know, I'm not I'm not whatever. I'm as far away from that as possible. And then all of a sudden all this stuff happened that they couldn't explain, but they had details. Yeah. And the other curious thing is that in zero of the NDs Johnna: all of sudden all this stuff happened that they couldn't explain, but they had details. Yeah. And the other curious thing is that in zero of the NDs do they die and go straight to hell or well that I've watched. I know there are hell ones and I am gonna start doing that. But in zero of them also, especially with that ⁓ atheists Clint: Do they die and go straight to hell or well that I've watched though there are hell ones and I am gonna start doing that. But in zero of them also, especially with that atheists, there's never you have to say this prayer and accept Jesus into your heart or you're gonna burn. You know what it is? It's look at how you're treating people. Johnna: There's never you have to say this prayer and accept Jesus into your heart or you're gonna burn. You know what it is? It's look at how you're treating people. Look at you know, love people, have compassion and understanding. Look at what happens when you judge people. And that is so fascinating to me. Like, nope, there's no thing that's like say this prayer and then Clint: Look at you know, love people, have compassion and understanding. Look at what happens when you judge people. And that is so fascinating to me. Like, no there's no thing that's like say this for her and then you get to get your McDonald's hamburger and be safe forever. I'll I'll say something that you generally say on this. Johnna: You get to get your McDonalds hamburger and be saved forever. I'll I'll say something. Clint: It's almost like that's what Yeshua was trying to or not trying to say, what he was saying but that message was corrupted. Like it's Johnna: was saying but that message was convoluted by Paul, who everybody holds his teachings before who they say is the Messiah. Like it's it's really interesting. So anyway, we just wanted to take this time on this podcast to talk about the documentaries and the NDE and just inspire you to don't wait to be kind. Don't Clint: It's really interesting. So anyway, we just wanted to take this time on this podcast to talk about the documentaries and the NDE and just inspire you to don't wait to be kind. Don't try not to do that. Now you're human, give yourself grace, right? Everyone has moments. But let's if we really want to start a revolution and we really want a different planet Johnna: Try not to do that. Now you're human. Give yourself grace, right? Everyone has moments. But let's, if we really want to start a revolution and we really want a different planet, it starts with being kind to yourself and then to others. Because you can't be to others what you're not to yourself. Yeah. All right. Thank you so much for listening. I hope you guys have a lovely day. Clint: It starts with being kind to yourself and then to others. Because you can't be to others what you're not to yourself. Right. Yeah. All right. Thank you so much for listening. I hope you guys have a lovely day. And we'll talk to you soon.