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Master Your Mindset: How to Build Confidence, Resilience & Mental Toughness | Collin Henderson · Books4Guys

• 0:13
  SPEAKER_00: I got to play for some really, really good coaches.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of coaches here are doing some big things now, so it's cool to see them work.
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  SPEAKER_00: What position did you play in and what what coaches did you have?
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_00: So safety is what I played.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_00: Got to play for you know who Coach Drinkowitz is.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's at Missouri now.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_00: He was actually my high school coach.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_00: So to see him be uh a high school coach, now he's making 10 mil a year in the SEC.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's uh Wow, that's really cool.
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  SPEAKER_00: What how was he as a coach in high school?
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_00: He was awesome, man.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like I still root for him because I just know what who he is as a person.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_00: And he was just he's one of the favorite, one of my favorite coaches ever been around.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_00: Man.
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  SPEAKER_01: What what's one thing you you you learned from him?
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: What resonated with me is just how much he loved doing what he did.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_00: So even at that time, I mean, he's not making any money.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_00: I know it was tough for him to make the decision to get into college football because he had a young family and he had to start as a GA.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I learned what GAs make and they don't make nothing.
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  SPEAKER_00: They don't make anything.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're working for free.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: But to see now, I mean, how much that's paid off.
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  SPEAKER_00: But he never changed.
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  SPEAKER_00: He was always so energetic.
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  SPEAKER_00: He knew how to challenge you when you need to be challenged.
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  SPEAKER_00: He knew how to have fun.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like I he always had the perfect energy at the right time.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you can just tell he loved it.
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  SPEAKER_00: EQ his EQ must have been really good.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So he he just knew how to connect with people.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_00: And some people I, you know, obviously not everybody gets along or likes you know certain personalities or whatever.
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  SPEAKER_00: But for me, uh, I liked his like fun, intense just passion.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like it just radiated to it, it's it resonated with me.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's good.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, I I was uh I was a receiver.
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  SPEAKER_01: So if I'm in the slot, you're you're you're uh you know uh coming down.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_01: Do you do you like six by one or do you like press?
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_00: Man, it depends.
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  SPEAKER_00: So like I I like I played strong safety, and to be honest, I hate guarding slot receivers because y'all are a little fast and twitchy, and I'd rather come up and and stop the run and play short routes, but the game changed a little bit.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_00: We were always having like the fast little guys, and I was like, man, I hate it.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, once they start spreading out, going like four wide, five wide, is I mean, yeah.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_01: You can't you can't escape that.
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  SPEAKER_00: No.
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  SPEAKER_00: I to I and I'll be transparent, man.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_00: I give me zone.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I want to play a zone.
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  SPEAKER_00: I really don't want to guard one-on-one with the fastest, twitchiest player on the field.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh usually didn't go my way.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I did like to hit.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I like to get close, and if I could blitz or play short game, like that's where I was I like that a little bit better.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_00: Cool, man.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm sure we can talk X's N's forever.
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  SPEAKER_00: But especially now, man.
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  SPEAKER_00: It I mean, football season's upon us.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of a lot of guys who watch and listen to this are high school coaches, people who played, sports fans in general.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_00: So it'll be cool to share your background with them and uh see what they think.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_00: But no, Colin, man, I'm I'm excited to have you on the podcast.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's been pretty cool.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't, you know, Casey J.
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  SPEAKER_00: Cox, shout out to him, got us connected really a year ago, and it was the first time you and I talked.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_00: Timing lined up a little bit better now to have you on the podcast and spotlight some of your work.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I've got your latest book on the website, The Oz Method, uh, which, man, it's been cool if nobody, if anyone listening or watching this, go follow Colin on his socials.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_00: I man, you've been posting all kinds of cool things on LinkedIn.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's where I live mainly.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I follow a lot of what you do there.
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  SPEAKER_00: But man, just your background in general is cool.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think the coolest thing, and you can talk more about just your story, because you've, you know, you've been doing this a long time of mindset and and growth.
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  SPEAKER_00: But obviously, as a sports fan, you know, seeing your role as director of mental conditioning for UCLA women's basketball, I thought it was pretty cool because my wife is also a big sports fan, and I told her who I was, you know, having a podcast with today, and she that caught her eye.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_00: She was like, ask him about that.
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  SPEAKER_00: This, you know, I want to know more about that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, well, I'll ask him because that's pretty cool.
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  SPEAKER_00: But but call man, share your story a little bit because you've been you've been doing this for over a decade now of mental coaching and and at different levels.
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  SPEAKER_00: You have your own organization that you consult through.
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  SPEAKER_00: You've been in roles where you've worked with many different people.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you've got how many books you have out now?
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_00: Seven?
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_00: I have eight now.
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  SPEAKER_00: Eight, eight books out now.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I mean, just what I don't know, man.
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  SPEAKER_00: You went from a corporate role into doing all this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, what finally what got you interested in this psychology of mental toughness and the way we think?
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  SPEAKER_00: And then what led you to like, hey, I'm gonna like go on my own thing and build this platform out and help people and and do it in as many different ways as I can.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, thanks for asking.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for having me.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh if you're listening to Books for Guys, thanks for uh tuning in to the episode.
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  SPEAKER_01: Really grateful.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_01: And I love the mission of what we're doing here, and that is to encry improve personal development, personal growth, and getting men talking about these things, talking about uh, you know, our fears, failures, growth, striving.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_01: You talk about learning is cool, being smart is cool.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_01: And in this day and age, we have so many distractions pulling us away from learning, so many streaming things and apps and uh gambling, other things that are really not helping us grow.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_01: But what got me into this place years ago is uh grew up in in Seattle, Washington, just south of town called Pew Allop, about 45 minutes south.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_01: My dad played college football at Washington State University, was a quarterback, uh, was a professional racquetball player, was an elite softball, played in World Series.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I just grew up playing sports.
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  SPEAKER_01: And but my dad was a clinical psychologist, he has PhD.
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  SPEAKER_01: My mom was an educator, so uh they always taught about you know school first.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_01: And my dad used to say you can think a lot longer than you can run, like talking about and the mental stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: He also taught us, and he coached me in football and basketball.
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  SPEAKER_01: The victory doesn't go to the stronger, faster man, it goes to the one who thinks he can.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_01: So I always knew we always valued learning in our household, but my dad was very competitive too.
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  SPEAKER_01: So he was one of those like vocal, competitive coaches and dads.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think I quickly associated, you know, when I do well and we win, like it's all good.
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  SPEAKER_01: When we lose and I don't play well at the car at home, it's not so good.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh so I think I just innately uh started to associate, you know, sports and performance.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, man, if I don't do well, it doesn't feel good.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I think I innately just inherently developed this just anxiety about outcomes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Got a full ride scholarship to play football and baseball at Washington State, started as a true freshman, one or three freshmen to start that year, started four years in football, end up starting in baseball, captured the baseball team.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_01: But like underneath that starting performance, people knew who I was.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_01: Is if you visualize an iceberg, there's what I call the outer game and the inner game.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_01: The outer game is like 10, 15% of what everyone can see.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_01: The inner game is like, so there's there are two questions every human should should really think about deeply in is question.
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  SPEAKER_01: One is how do people experience you?
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  SPEAKER_01: Are you an energy giver or an energy taker?
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  SPEAKER_01: Does the room light up when you enter or or leave the room?
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  SPEAKER_01: What's your give to get ratio?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, how do people experience you?
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  SPEAKER_01: What do people's nervous systems do when you walk in the room?
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  SPEAKER_01: Is your reputation good or bad?
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, but the question that influences that is how do you experience yourself?
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_01: How do you experience yourself?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because pain that's not properly processed gets projected.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I think people experienced me as kind, humble, fun hard worker.
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  SPEAKER_01: But how I experienced myself was imposter, self-doubt, fear, shame.
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  SPEAKER_01: So no one knew any of this really well while I was doing my thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: And after graduate school, I got into fundraising at WSU, got into pharmaceuticals, and then got into device sales.
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  SPEAKER_01: So when you ask me, how did I get into this?
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  SPEAKER_01: I carried that weight of perfectionism, of people pleasing, of self-worth tied to performance.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'll just tell the listeners you know, what you resist persists.
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  SPEAKER_01: The longer you wait it as weight by not addressing some of those underlying anxieties and fears and shameful thoughts and being conditioned to believe self-worth tied to performance, it manifested in sales things.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sales and sports are very similar.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's a winner, there's a loser, there's competition, you have a leader, manager, coach, you're part of a team, you know, there's a scoreboard, like you are ranked and you are praised by how well you perform.
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  SPEAKER_01: So a very similar environment.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I carried the same stress and anxiety, and you know, it was just so draining.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_01: My blood pressure in my early 30s was in the high 140s, high 150s.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_01: I would go escape my selling, you know, selling to doctors.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'd go watch a movie, movies, you know, several times a week just to literally numb myself from reality.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_01: We would have verbal tests over the phone.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_01: I would just literally have take a Xanax, like panic attack.
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  SPEAKER_01: And my stress got so bad, I developed this kind of slight stutter that I kind of hid because again, perfectionism, very outcome-based, like thinking about what if I screw up, what if I don't say this right?
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_01: I would just, it was crippling.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_01: And then everything changed, Chris.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_01: When I changed companies.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I really believe when the student is ready, the teacher appears.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you and I talked about this pre-show, is on the unfortunate truth about men and young men, they aren't willing to do the work unless there's a crisis.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're not willing to get vulnerable, not willing to meet in a small group, not willing to get coaching, counseling, therapy, or whatever.
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  SPEAKER_01: They just isolate like I did, grit their teeth, and just grind through and just suffer in silence.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_01: But when I switched companies, I had a sales trainer, his name is Frankie Pretzel.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_01: We're driving in Chicago in his territory.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_01: He's a sales trainer.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_01: We're we'll go into two accounts, he's teach me about the business.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_01: But we were listening to an audiobook on how thoughts become things, on how words are tools, on neurolinguistics, neuropathways.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_01: When you visualize, I forget the the teacher, but then he's like, All right, before you leave, and this is I'm in a small group, and we have like this book list.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_01: There's these books on business and marketing and sales.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_01: Don't worry about those.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna give you a list of 30 books on personal development, on neuroplasticity, on you know, the books like how the brain changes itself, the book like Think and Grow Rich, The Secret, all these different, you know, how to win friends and influence people, all these like things are not business specific, but it's more mental performance specific.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_01: And I was so hungry because I was so sick and tired of like not sleeping and just anxious all the time.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I really, because of that crisis situation, I was ready to do the work.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm here to tell you that book list changed my life.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_01: So, y'all listeners, books for guys.
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  SPEAKER_01: I had a mentor pour into me in my early 30s when I needed it most, and he didn't tell me to work harder, he told me to start learning.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_01: This is stuff they don't teach you in in your MBA, they don't teach this in your onboarding at work.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_01: Unfortunately, your sports coaches don't have this background, you know.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_01: But there is there is wisdom that people who have already been there done that for centuries.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_01: They're literally giving you the blueprint and the hack on what to do, but you would rather watch Instagram.
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  SPEAKER_01: You would rather like what I did.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_01: I would watch sports.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_01: You would you would rather like what I would do was just numb myself by watching box sets of shows either on Netflix or go watch movies.
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  SPEAKER_01: My life changed when I start to prioritize my personal development.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_01: People say, I don't like to read.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you know what, Chris?
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_01: There's this cool app called Audible.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_01: I don't have time.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you can bump that thing up to 1.7 speed if you like.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_01: So took that book list, consumed, I was reading like like five books a month for like two years, listening or reading.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_01: And not only was my health better, I stopped taking medicine for, you know, blood pressure.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_01: I was sleeping better, was more engaged with my family, but I started setting sales records, started doing things our company had never seen before.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_01: And it was nothing I learned from my company.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_01: It was all from this list of books.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, you're saying, you're saying what I try to say, but much better.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_00: And uh there's a couple things there.
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  SPEAKER_00: One, we talked about this too before we push record, was just you talk about you got a list of books in your 30s.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_00: Do you think you would have, and I'm assuming the the answer is yes, if you'd have read or listened to these books when you were between 18 and 22, how different would the rest of your twenties have been?
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: Probably a lot from from distress, it probably wouldn't have been as as high.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: Who knows what you could have succeeded because your mindset would have been so much different than what you had to go through before you got to the the book list that thankfully you had a great mentor, you know, provide for you.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_00: But that's kind of what we've been doing too here at Books for Guys, too, is how can we get young guys to start that personal development journey as early as possible and get those wheels turning that makes them hopefully to be the best person they can be, the best version of themselves before they hit a point like you did where it's like, man, I I gotta change something.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like this can't keep going.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is not what I'm meant to do or not the way I'm meant to feel.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_00: But so I'm so glad you talk about going through the struggle and then just the time in your life of when you actually changed.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_00: It was in your 30s.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, man, how can we keep how can we keep less men from getting to that age before they start, you know, making changes?
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_00: The other thing I really liked, Colin, I wanted to go back to this because one of the first things you said, and it was like the two questions that you were talking about we all should ask ourselves.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_00: And one of them specifically, I actually dug deep into like two weeks ago, and it was like, how do other people experience you?
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I was thinking of like what my purpose is and what my vision is on like what I want to accomplish as a person.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I got real nitty-gritty with it, and I was like, man, I want people to have, I want people to know me as someone that that adds fun, smiles, value, positivity, and good energy to their life experience.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_00: So the day I'm gone, I want people to remember Chris was always so much fun to be around.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_00: If I was ever having a hard time, Chris was somebody I wanted to call and talk to because I know he was gonna make my day better somehow.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_00: And uh just you talk about that positive energy a lot.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, man, that's that's funny you mentioned that question because that was a question I dug into personally, and I was like, that's that's what my calling is.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_00: I want to provide good experiences and be a blessing to others in the way I act or my actions, the things I do.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, that was just something else that caught my attention because I was like, I just kind of went through that personal exercise just on my own.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_01: That's really cool.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_01: I I experienced that with you right out the gate.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_01: Warm energy, kind, smiling, servant, servant leadership.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_01: So you're you're doing a great job there.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_00: No, appreciate it, man.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_00: Well, talk a little bit about master your mindset.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_00: So obviously, you you're reading these books, you're changing things up, you're setting records, you're, you know, you're doing things that you didn't know you could do, probably just a couple short years before that.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: What caused you to transition out of, you know, the pharmaceutical or the sales position into more of the psychology side of things and actually creating your platform there, creating your business.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_00: And then obviously that's taken you many different routes, you know, over the last seven, eight.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you started my master your mindset over, you know, a decade ago, but a lot of things uh seem to be six or seven years, you know, in the maybe.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: But talk about that transition and and what led you to or what pushed you to finally jump into the pool, sort of say.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I you know, when you uh when you find a good restaurant, you're gonna tell your friends about it.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: When you have a pair of uh, you know, you you're you're playing football at Arkansas State, man, you got these speed TD shoes, man.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_01: They're so light, they're durable, you feel like you're adding your 4640 to a 4-4 in those babies.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_01: You want to tell people about it.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_01: And I think what happened with me is I saw such transformation, something I was looking for that I didn't have.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: And then when I started to implement some of the principles and some of the learnings, and I saw the the success, I just wanted people to know about this is what has helped me.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_01: Because I think a lot of people are like the iceberg, they're they're they're not telling their their full story or they're they're putting on a front externally, but underneath there's again shame and fear, or either the two things I hear a lot is I'm not enough or I'm I'm not doing enough.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_01: But men don't really c communicate emotions and feelings very well.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: So they they just bury them, and their solution is to grind harder.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_01: So I was thinking, are you are you grinding or are you grooving?
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we we gain wisdom in one of two ways by experience or by by learning from others.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: I felt like I had learned so much from other great thinkers and I applied those those learnings.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_01: I wanted to just be of service.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_01: So I just started blogging.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_01: I started a blog in 2016 called Project Rise.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_01: And this was before AI.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: So I literally wrote every word in these blog posts, and it took like two to three hours.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_01: And this was before, you know, the average Instagram real view time is like five to six seconds, you know.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_01: So this is like you gotta sit down and but it was such a blessing to me.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_01: And a great question, too, I would ask any leader or any any performer who wants to be a lead is do you have a philosophy?
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: Can you duplicate what drives winning?
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_01: Do you know?
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_01: Could you whiteboard it?
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: Can you coach it?
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: Could you teach it?
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_01: Uh this is what my one of my mentors, Trevor Moad, used to call unconsciously competent.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_01: You have success, but you don't have a system.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_01: James Clear says we don't rise to our goals, we fall to the level of our systems.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_01: So the goal is to be consciously competent.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_01: You you know what drives winning.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_01: You know, when you're playing cover two, man, you know that your corner is gonna play the short routes, and you got over the top.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like you have a game plan of like what you're going to do and how you're gonna drive success for you.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_01: So I wanted to like, here's the things I've learned.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_01: Now I want to unpack what I think the laws of success are around self-talk and identity and and habits.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: And really, I built my first series of blog posts on gratitude and service, like what gratitude does for your brain and for your attitude and for how people experience you and how you deal with the challenge and version and change, but how service changes your attitude.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_01: Because it's hard to be, you know, hateful and grateful.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_01: It's hard to be selfish and serve at the same time.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_01: So, and then just starting there.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, and so I started blogging.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_01: And then after blogging for a year, I wrote a book.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_01: And then when you're blogging and writing books, they don't sell themselves.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_01: So I I started showing up online just talking about again, just giving it away.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_01: Just absolutely here's things that are helping me.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_01: I I if you're experiencing this, try this tool or try this tip or try this morning priming thing or try this application.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: And um, doing that for a few years, I got enough people who were reading and paying attention, and they'd have me come in, talk to their team, or talk to their sales team, or talk to their HR department, or I it was just it's very organic.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_01: There was no master plan of being like the next Tony Robbins.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_01: But after three years of doing it, I made this deal with myself.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_01: Once I make made consistently three plus months in a row more income, speaking, coaching, consulting versus selling catheters, I'm gonna go all in.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I I think I think that'd be a great.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe let's pause for a moment.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_01: And the application of this portion of our conversation is listeners, do you have a life philosophy?
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_01: Do you have a mission statement?
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_01: Do you have values?
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: Can you pinpoint three to five habits and behaviors that you're gonna lock in daily or weekly?
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_01: We're hoping that one of those daily non-negotiables is, you know, 20 to 30 minutes of either reading or listening to a book.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_01: And then pausing, how many times have you seen people?
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_01: Are you are you reading or listening for entertainment or for education?
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_01: Because what you don't use, you lose.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_01: Then take a moment to reflect on the learnings, jot down some notes, and what will you implement based off of what you just learned?
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that can't be uh overstated enough, Colin.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_00: I I struggle with that personally.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: I've got so many people writing so many different books, and I'm trying my best to read through them and take things away from them.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I just recently I've had to pause myself and say, hey man, you can't read every book that you put on your website.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: You know, eventually maybe so, but like I have to spend some time personal development and and read and actually dive in.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: I'm actually I'm a lot happier, I'm a lot calmer when I do that.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you talk about that.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: I've I've experienced some exently, not that much, you know, I'm I'm really a pretty calm level guy, but I find myself where I'm like, what am I learning?
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_00: I don't remember anything I'm reading, but I've got a stack of 10 books I say I just read, but what did I take from it and what am I implementing?
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: I need to go back to the basics and uh, like you said, pause, underline, take some notes, and uh apply those to my life so I can actually, you know, find some benefit there.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: And podcasts are the same way, man, for me.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_00: I got a lot out of, I think maybe podcasts even led me to reading more because I would listen to people who have written books and they share their story and they talk about things.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, man, I gotta get that guy's book or I gotta get that girl's book because what she's talking about on Joe Rogan or Andy Frasilla or Ed My Let's podcast.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, okay, I need to dive in deeper to what they're saying here.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um so those are some examples too of you know, if you need something to kick kick your journey off, just go listen to these guys who are doing big things and and then read their books like yours as well, Colin.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_00: But I wanted to ask you too.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_00: So you you wrote a book, everything's happening organically, which which seems to happen when you get a little vulnerable vulnerable.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I wanted to key in on that piece too before I ask you another question.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because we always talk about these things.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_00: Well, people, when you get a little outside of your comfort zone, that's where this like massive growth can happen.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_00: And and a piece of that is becoming vulnerable.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I and I've experienced it personally.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: I was at a men's group with my dad two weeks ago.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it was like a Bible group, and everybody was a good group of men.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't just around, you know, the Bible, but all these men that are older than me were so vulnerable, sharing struggles in their life.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm sitting there thinking, like, these guys.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Are so successful, you know, going into the to the meeting.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_00: And then at the end, I was like, man, like I just feel so much more at peace, weight lifted off.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm not as like far behind these guys as possible.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like everyone's struggling at different levels.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_00: And to hear these men who are, you know, either millionaires, big business owners, like open their hearts and be like, man, here's what I'm struggling with this week.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: You know, my business is struggling here.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like, but that iron-sharpened iron, you got people to lean on.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm sure, you know, one question I always ask people on this too is like you, you mentioned a mentor already.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like, who are some of those people that you became vulnerable with, and how did you see that play out to where all of a sudden organically things started to happen because you did open up more and you were talking to more people and you were sharing your story and struggles.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm sure there were people along the way that resonated with that and were like, hey, Colin, I've been there, man.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: Let me let me tell you about my story, and here's where I'm at now, and you you can be there too.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what did that look like for you in your journey of mentorship and and leaning on others and becoming vulnerable with them?
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think that you can get vulnerable in a in a variety of ways, and there's a variety of outlets.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_01: I think we need to highlight that that suicide is four to one male versus female.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: Hmm.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_01: Didn't know that.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_01: And then the attempt is like seven to one.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, men and boys tend to isolate and don't surround themselves, uh, don't ask for help.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_01: So a question to think about is what does the warrior and the coward have in common?
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_01: They both feel fear.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_01: The coward feels it and runs away, the warrior feels it and runs in into battle.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: So calling a a mentor, a friend, a parent, and just saying, I'm kind of struggling right now, processing this, or I'm unclear about this, or I'm I'm being, I'm I'm consumed by this thing, or I had self-doubt here.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_01: Or I think what happened with what set a chain reaction is when I was 27 years old, my dad had a conversation.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, You should go to speech therapy.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_01: Because my anxiety kind of really started amping up in like fifth, sixth grade, and I started stuttering during that time.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_01: I changed schools, was in a new environment, was in an honors program, had to read out loud.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_01: I kinda kind of got stuck on a word, and that moment uh created this blanket of shame.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: And there's a powerful book called The Body Keeps the Score, as in trauma and fear and like stored in your nervous system.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_01: And then that experience, that one failure setback, formed in a fear and an identity of a label.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like I'm I guess I'm not good at speaking in public.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_01: Or so then it kind of got worse over time.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_01: And even I was okay kind of one-on-one, like the iceberg, like I could hide it enough to where it wasn't like super known, but people in my inner circle knew there was times I, you know, just couldn't speak in public or read.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_01: I remember I was at a golf tournament at Washington State and they asked me to read a script for the radio because I was, you know, four four-year starter and I couldn't read it.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like I couldn't like read a paragraph into like a recorder.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_01: I was just, I can give a million examples.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_01: I was just traumatized.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_01: And I didn't seek speech therapy until I was 27, where I sat down with a professional who helps people at all ages.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we all have different struggles, and everyone has a different one.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_01: And you think you're the one is bigger than everybody else's, which is not true.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_01: You think you're the only one, you think people are gonna judge, but everyone is carrying something that we have no idea what it is.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_01: And that speech therapy, you know, reading a newspaper in front of a stranger when I could barely read the whole newspaper was so I was so embarrassed and it was humiliating, but you show up the next week and you get a little better.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_01: Show up the next week, you get a little better.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_01: And that kind of set a chain reaction of just practicing being vulnerable.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_01: Victory goes to the vulnerable.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_01: You want to be a savage, you want to be a beast, get vulnerable.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_01: Like weakness is not asking for help.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_01: Weakness is hiding.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_01: So I think we need to, for young people, young men especially, we need to just model, man, victory goes to the vulnerable, the manly arena.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like you're getting your ass kicked and you're unsure.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_01: Talk to someone about it.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_01: That's being a savage.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_01: And um, maybe I can just pause there if you want to reflect on that, and I can keep kind of adding on to it.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_00: No, man, I I again everything, everything you're saying, there are things that I think about and I talk about, but the way you word it makes just a lot more sense.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_00: The way you're phrasing it.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: And I loved your example, like the coward and the warrior having the courage to to go forward with it.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't know, man.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't yeah, it's hard for me to think of examples of just my personal life, but I have noticed like when I my wife challenges me with something to communicate a little bit better.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, why why are you quiet today?
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_00: Why why are you struggling?
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_00: What's going on?
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_00: I am an intro, like an introvert at that point.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't really want to share my problems, I can handle it, you know, all good.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_00: I don't need why do you care?
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_00: You know, there's not anything you can do.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: But when I do talk it out and she's she kind of listens, like, it does feel better.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe there is a solution, maybe there is something I'm not thinking about, but it takes it takes me getting over the hurdle of just, you know, not wanting to talk about it as most men are in that same boat.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's just interesting, man.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_00: I think these and I and I hear these conversations on other podcasts, and it thankfully it encourages me, like, hey man, you gotta open up a little bit more, you gotta share your story a little bit more.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like we're all, like you said, we're all struggling with things.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_00: We all have things where we want to know if someone else is going through the same thing.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_00: And then that's that's like books too, you know, if you're trying to do something, someone else has experienced it.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_00: You know, someone else has lost a parent or a brother or a job or something, you know, other people have gone through similar things.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_00: And to be able to find that connection, that connection with those people, man, it helps a lot.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_00: But you gotta be you gotta be willing to get a little vulner vulnerable, like you said.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and and I I think of these two different phrases from two different angles.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_01: Pain and shame cannot be fully healed unless it's shared.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_01: And conversely, happiness cannot be fully actualized unless it's shared.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_01: So nobody should worry or win alone.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_01: That just should be on every every dude's, you know, on the front temple of their prefrontal cortex.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's just like I I'm not gonna be fully happy unless I can share this with someone.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna be fully healing from, you know, loss, a setback unless I share it with someone, unless someone walks in and we're social creatures by nature.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_01: God designed us, you know, Adam Adam was lonely.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we we we crave it's called oxytocin.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_01: We are we are social creatures.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_01: But really, top-selling book of the 90s is Men Are From Mars and Women Are From Venus.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_01: It was a viral book.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_01: Basically, you know, men and women, our our our neural makeup is just kind of different.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you can even say we're a different species.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_01: We we we process things differently, we talk differently, you know, how we get re recharged, I think.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_01: And you can't universally, it's not just black and white, but generally speaking, and um, based off of the book, it's this idea that, you know, women are tend to be more report talkers, men are more report talkers.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_01: As in just the facts, you know, we usually when women get together, they got all the details, men we just cover the basic stuff.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_01: We just don't need, you know, we we tend uh women usually tend to to communicate, you know, and heal face to face.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_01: Men heal shoulder to shoulder, using their hands, doing something physically, you know.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_01: But just being together creates the opportunities to um just to check in on people and to talk through things.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_01: It just provides clarity.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think people sit down and actually think, but the very word mindfulness or mindful means to pay attention.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_01: So if we're not mindful of our day, our week, our goals, our challenges, and kind of brainstorm some some ideas.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_01: And I I've heard, I've heard many successful, successful business owners and husbands and fathers, they've met with the same group once a week or once every two weeks to do nothing more of like we're learning something or we're just talking through our week.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_01: They have an outlet.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_01: And I just feel like there are so many best practices that that were that we're missing.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_01: Or peer pressure goes both ways.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_01: It can be a negative influence or a positive influence.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_01: And I I lean on uh research from Northwestern University about being in proximity with certain groups.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_01: If you're within 25 feet of a top performer, your performance outputs increase by 15%.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_01: If you're around 25 feet of an underperformer, your output and performance decreases by 30%.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_01: So what circles are you in?
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_01: There are three types of people in the world, and a minus, an equal, or a plus.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_01: So a question could be you've heard the quote from Jim Rowan, you're byproduct the five people you spend the most time with.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_01: So who's in your five?
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_01: Who do you who are the five people you spend the most time with?
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_01: Are they a minus, an equal, or a plus?
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_01: How many pluses can you add to who's in your five?
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: Because how they speak, their behaviors, their discipline, their motivation, you know, learning about real estate, about credit, about investing, about relationships, uh, about, you know, a hack on, you know, sauna, cold plunge.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_01: Just high performance and all things.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_01: I just, I just want to us to think about, you know, there's 168 hours in a week.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_01: Let's just say you go to school or work and you sleep eight hours.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_01: That's 100 hours.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_01: You got six to eight hours.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what are you doing with that six to eight hours?
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_01: Who are what are you consuming?
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_01: What are you listening to?
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_01: Who are you talking to?
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_01: There's people that have less intelligence, less resources, less IQ than all of us.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_01: They're killing all of us because they've gotten in the right rooms.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_01: They're they're reading or learning from the right things.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_01: And there's just so much that school does not teach us.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_00: No, 100%, man.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_00: 100%.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: Also, big sauna fan.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'll be there tonight, and I can't wait.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_00: I was there this morning.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_00: I've learned to love the sauna.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_00: Thank, thankful for my wife who talked me into uh to getting my own membership.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_00: And uh yeah, I look forward to that most days.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_00: Colin, I'll I just one question I want to ask.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_00: I know we're we're getting close on time, but there's one I wanted to ask because it was transitioning in that way.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_00: You were talking about that book, Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_00: And it was a question I was gonna ask you specifically.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_00: I told my wife I'd ask you about this, your work with the UCLA women's basketball team.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_00: Pretty cool because they were just in the final four, you know, they've been very successful in recent years.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_00: And we were talking about too, because we obviously we talk a lot about men here.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_00: And part of part of you know, being a good man is learning how to communicate with women, you know, specifically your wife, your daughters, your mother, you know, all those things too.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot that goes into in the dynamic.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm curious to know just your number one, like how what did the process look like for you to land that position to work with the UCLA women's basketball team?
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_00: And what were the dynamics of working with those athletes, female athletes specifically, on mindset and performance?
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_00: Was it different than how you talk with like if you were working with me as a man?
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like what were the dynamics there?
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_00: What did you learn in that role yourself?
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_00: And just kind of what was that experience like for you?
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it's interesting.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_01: I've actually, in my collegiate contracts in my uh sport and performance mindset consulting, I've had way more women teams than men teams, uh ironically.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_01: Because there is this hunger, humility of growth and seeing that you can train your body, your craft, and your mind.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_01: And a lot of you know, athletes spend time in the weight room, bigger, stronger, faster.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_01: They spend time on their skills, whether it's dribbling, throwing, shooting, kicking, you know, what with your backpedal, you know, as a DB, Chris.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but that that third bucket, the mental, I think Coach Close won a lot of accolades as a coach of the year, you know, first final four two years ago, champion this year.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_01: Trevor Moad was a mentor of mine, worked with UCLA prior to me, and he had passed away.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_01: And coach um Tasha Brown was kind of kind of running some of the mindset stuff and saw some of my videos and learned from Trevor about me, I believe.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_01: And then I was speaking at a church conference in LA in fall of 2021, and we just set up a meeting.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_01: And coach Coach Shannon and Coach Tasha, we literally just talked for like two hours, and it was like time did not pass, you know, just about philosophy and about mindset.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_01: And then met with Coach Close, and you know, the Coach Close has always had try to bring in some consultants.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, we just made an agreement on, you know, how often I come in and gonna be live uh on campus once a month.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna do virtuals.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_01: And I I brought in a program that I I it was inspired by the by the book Mind Gym by Gary Mack.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_01: It was written in in 2001.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_01: And Gary Mack was a mindset skills coach with the Mariners and some other organizations, I think the Cardinals in football.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_01: But we called it the mind gym, where we're gonna train our brain like we train our body.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna call it this mental conditioning, like feels like we're gonna like equate getting our mental sweat on.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_01: You exercise, you got to inner size, like we're gonna just treat it like this is a disciplined skill that this program is gonna commit to do.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_01: But I think what I try to do is make the esoteric accessible.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_01: Make the, because I think what I found, you know, when I was at Washington State, we had sports psychologists kind of work with us, but I never connected the dots that I needed it, even though I needed it so bad.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_01: So using storytelling, using real-world analogies and examples, whether it's hip-hop or movies or but bringing evidence-based things, but I think making the application very simple.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_01: So you there's a skill of poise, a skill of present moment of focus, a skill of confidence, a skill of resilience, a skill of being process focused, a skill of identity, how you see yourself, a skill to reset quickly on the court, which we called next place speed.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_01: What's the drill that we're going to practice as a team that gets us that skill?
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_01: So we'll create a common language, we'll create, you know, in the moment, a routine or a process, time to reflect, you know, individually and in a small group and bring that into the practice and to, you know, off the court and on the court.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_01: And uh there were two end measurements uh that we measured a few years ago.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_01: And that was we led the conference in positive plays after a live ball turnover.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_01: And we called it next play speed.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_01: Every player had a reset, you know, reset strategy in the moment, whether it's a verbal cue, a physical routine, or a visual to be a goldfish, have a short memory, and not go from bad to worse.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_01: Another stat our our stat team shared with me is we led the conference in execution after timeouts, which we worked on shifting your don'ts to your do's.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_01: Because a lot of times, think about it, Chris, when there's a timeout or you're at safety and they they call the defense and you're focusing on, all right, don't give up a touchdown, don't get crossed up, or don't, you know, you even said out loud, I can't guard the shift too fast.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like we don't say negative stuff out loud.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_01: We focus on what we do want, not what we don't.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_01: We we fill our brain with the execution key of seeing what we want before it happens versus don't give up a shot, don't turn it over, don't miss, don't get scored on.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_01: No, we train our brain when that moment in between the moment, what we want to see and our execution key that we focus on in the moment.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so so four, four seasons of you know working every single week and this past year, having Tasha take over the mind gym and giving her, getting her equipped to run the sessions because I traveling every single month was tough, and seeing the fruit of that work.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_01: And I'll maybe I'll end with these two things talking to the coaching staff.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_01: Two things that was most impactful.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_01: Number one is having a system, the mind gym system, self-awareness, self-identity, and self-talk.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_01: But of the three, the greatest, most powerful mental lesson was on identity.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_01: You never outperform your self-image.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_01: And it was great watching Coach Close and podcasts, like just sharing that you never outperform your self-image.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_01: The most powerful is how you see yourself.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_01: If you we don't believe that we're a championship team, we will not be a championship team.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_01: If we put a ceiling on our vision on what we think is possible, then our habits, behaviors, our boldness is going to mirror our belief.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_01: But talking to Coach Tasha, who's now with the the Huskies, University of Washington, the number one tool that Ucille implemented on that run was having a reset strategy, a reset plan.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_01: And and watching, um, watching Gabby Hawkes, who was a first-round draft pick, you know, being interviewed in as a as a pro player, got to shift to neutral.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_01: Your ability to reset is gonna dictate your performance on the court.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_01: So listening to professionals now, first-round draft picks using the mind gym language in life and as a paid professional has been awesome to watch.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_00: Man, that's so cool.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_00: I I love learning about that stuff, just tricks and how people I love the psychology of so many different things, but specifically with athletics and just how passionate, you know, I am about them.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_00: My wife is, my friends, like just digging in and learning those development tools that you can use in in any area of life.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_00: You don't have to be an athlete.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_00: You can use it in business, with family, with whatever you're trying to build and accomplish.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm so glad that you shared that.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_00: But Colin, dude, this has been this has been better than I could have ever dreamed or expected.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_00: I can't wait to share this conversation with everybody who listens and watches, and to share with those that that haven't yet.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_00: I think this right here will lead them to listen and watching more.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_00: But man, it's so cool just to see everything you're doing and just all the stuff that you're learning along the way and teaching.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, man, we've got your latest book on the website.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_00: I'm in the process of giving them, getting them all on there.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_00: But dude, just keep doing what you're doing, man, because it's so cool to see guys like me are watching and then just enjoying and learning from you and taking notes.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_00: And so, man, just know that what you're doing is having an impact on people you may not even realize.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_00: And so, man, just keep it because it's cool to see.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_01: I appreciate that.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_01: And I I want everybody, maybe I want you to check out the book, The Slight Edge, by by uh Jeff Olson.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_01: The the the slight edge is said differently, the aggregation of marginal gains, the compound effect.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_01: So if you're listening to this right now, I think a lot of people want that hack, that AI quick fix.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_01: But the slight edge is if we can just read 10 pages a day, what that's gonna do per month, per six months, per year, over 10 years, and just that consistency, that consistency, it's like pushing a boulder up a hill.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_01: The moment you take some days off, it goes backwards.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_01: But the moment you keep pushing, pushing, pushing over, I don't know, two, three, four, five years, you hit to the top and then it's downhill because you have them ingrained.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_01: You've got the systems, you've got the learning.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so I would just love everyone listening to this.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_01: What is your entertainment to education ratio?
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_01: Let's start to implement, whether it's podcasting, whether it's books, every single day for 10 to 30 minutes to an hour of some kind.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_01: You are going to leapfrog your peers.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_01: Once you, once it hits that threshold, once it hits that, you know, threshold of enough times, it's going to start to click and you're going to be so more equipped than everybody else.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_01: And I'll just end with this story.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_01: Have y'all read the book Rich Dad, Poor Dad?
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_01: The the the well, the the author is shares about how one of his friends, his house got broken into.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_01: Have you heard the story?
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_01: Chris.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: So, so a mansion, you know, bazillionaire.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_01: He got all the things, all the bells and whistles, all the tech, and they end up stealing some stuff.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_01: And the owner of the house was like completely relieved.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, these robbers were idiots.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_01: I have a book study library worth the billions of dollars of dollars.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_01: They did not take one book.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_01: And that's the idea is there's wisdom out there.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_01: There's people who have been there, done that.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_01: This is called drafting.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_01: You can, like, you know, like a bird behind another bird or a race car behind another race car, you can draft behind someone who's already been there, done that.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_01: That could it helps with efficiency, it helps with with speed, it helps with you know taking the right path.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_01: So I just wanted to end with make a daily commitment to add learning and education uh to your skill set.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_01: And y'all are adults.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_01: We have to respect your right to be average.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_01: But but leaders are readers, readers are learners, learners are earners.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_00: Man, we'll leave it, we'll leave it with that.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_00: And thank you so much, Colin, man.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_00: We appreciate it.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_00: It was a pleasure, Chris.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks.