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Women’s Health: Making Room for Ourselves | Dr Mary Revelas | F*ck, I’m Nearly 50! · F*ck, I’m Nearly 50!

• 0:00
  Dom Hind: Welcome to season two of Fuck I'm Nearly 50.
• 0:03
  Dom Hind: I just turned 48, and on my 48th birthday, we hit 5,000 downloads.
• 0:08
  Dom Hind: 5,000, which honestly feels outrageous, and I'm so, so excited about it.
• 0:14
  Dom Hind: Season one was huge.
• 0:17
  Dom Hind: 17 episodes, 14 brilliant guests, two raw solo episodes where I process life in real time.
• 0:24
  Dom Hind: And our most listened to episode, the incredible Shanna Kennedy, who joined me twice and clearly struck a nerve with all of us.
• 0:34
  Dom Hind: What I've loved most isn't the numbers though, it's the messages, the DMs, the I thought it was just me moments.
• 0:41
  Dom Hind: And that's why we're back.
• 0:43
  Dom Hind: Hi, I'm Dom Hind, and fuck, I'm nearly 50.
• 0:47
  Dom Hind: Actually, I am now 48.
• 0:49
  Dom Hind: And this next stretch feels different.
• 0:52
  Dom Hind: Less panic, more power.
• 0:54
  Dom Hind: I'm not trying to rewind to who I was at 35.
• 0:58
  Dom Hind: I'm trying to understand who I am now.
• 1:00
  Dom Hind: My body, my energy, my brain, my patterns, and how to make this decade my strongest yet.
• 1:06
  Dom Hind: Because let's be honest, our 40s are confronting, our bodies shift, our tolerance drops, our hormones have their own agenda.
• 1:14
  Dom Hind: And suddenly the hacks that used to work don't.
• 1:17
  Dom Hind: We've tried the diets, the detoxes, the discipline, but what we actually want is clarity.
• 1:23
  Dom Hind: What matters, what's noise, and how do we back, take back control of how we age.
• 1:29
  Dom Hind: Lately I've been thinking a lot about that.
• 1:32
  Dom Hind: How much is mindset, how much is biology, and how much is written in our DNA, which is exactly why today's guest feels like the perfect way to kick off season two.
• 1:44
  Dom Hind: Dr.
• 1:45
  Dom Hind: Mary Ravellis is a longevity doctor and founder of AgeBantage.
• 1:50
  Dom Hind: And she has this rare ability to make genetics feel empowering instead of intimidating.
• 1:56
  Dom Hind: Because here's the truth you can't change your genes, but you can change how they behave.
• 2:02
  Dom Hind: This episode is about owning your next decade.
• 2:04
  Dom Hind: It's about understanding your body instead of fighting it.
• 2:08
  Dom Hind: And it's about realizing that nearly 50 isn't an ending.
• 2:13
  Dom Hind: It's a recalibration.
• 2:15
  Dom Hind: Because fuck, we're nearly 50.
• 2:17
  Dom Hind: And isn't it amazing that we still get to evolve?
• 2:22
  Dom Hind: Dr.
• 2:33
  Dom Hind: Mary Revelis is a longevity doctor, founder of Age Bantage, and an award-winning academic researcher.
• 2:41
  Dom Hind: She's cringing.
• 2:42
  Dom Hind: Who bridges microbiology, genetics, and the science of aging.
• 2:48
  Dom Hind: She's a Dean's Award recipient for outstanding PhD thesis titled, this is a very long title, Mary, The Genetic and Epigenetic Factors Associated with Human Exceptional Longevity and Successful Aging.
• 3:05
  Dom Hind: Her research explored why some people not only live longer but age better, uncovering what their genes, environment, and everyday choices can teach the rest of us about resilience and vitality.
• 3:21
  Dom Hind: No, don't.
• 3:25
  Dom Hind: It's great.
• 3:25
  Dom Hind: Before launching AgeVantage, Mary spent years in labs and research centres from studying antibiotic resistance in South Africa to investigating healthy brain aging at UNSW's Centre for Healthy Brain Aging.
• 3:39
  Dom Hind: Wow, who would have thought that it was called that?
• 3:42
  Dom Hind: She's taken all that science and translated it into clear, human-centered approach that helps people see the total view of their health.
• 3:51
  Dom Hind: What I love about Mary is that she makes complex simple.
• 3:57
  Dom Hind: She's not the kind of doctor who hides behind jargon or quick fixes.
• 4:01
  Dom Hind: She's deeply curious about why we feel the way we do, physically, mentally, and emotionally.
• 4:08
  Dom Hind: And she's passionate about helping people take control of their health span, not their lifespan, which is what I love.
• 4:17
  Dom Hind: This episode is for anyone who's ever thought, I don't feel like myself anymore, but I don't know where to start.
• 4:24
  Dom Hind: We also talk about genes, hormones, stress, energy, and the science of aging well, but also about self-awareness, agency, and the art of taking responsibility for your own evolution.
• 4:38
  Dom Hind: Dr.
• 4:39
  Dom Hind: Mary, welcome to Fuck I'm Nearly 50.
• 4:43
  Dr Mary Revelas: Thank you for having me, Dom.
• 4:46
  Dom Hind: If someone met you at a dinner party, how would you introduce yourself?
• 4:52
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, I'm not allowed to use the word doctor.
• 4:54
  Dom Hind: No, you don't, you can't.
• 4:55
  Dom Hind: Look, for you, I you can.
• 4:57
  Dr Mary Revelas: You can.
• 4:57
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um I would say that I am passionate about helping you live better for longer.
• 5:06
  Dr Mary Revelas: My focus is on health span and joy span.
• 5:10
  Dr Mary Revelas: Oh, joy span.
• 5:12
  Dr Mary Revelas: Joy span.
• 5:13
  Dr Mary Revelas: So I want to add life to your years, not just years to your life.
• 5:18
  Dr Mary Revelas: And there was this quote by this amazing sent uh octogenarian that I used during my speeches or during my PhD.
• 5:26
  Dr Mary Revelas: And her quote was the aim is to die young as late as possible.
• 5:31
  Dom Hind: Yeah, I love that.
• 5:32
  Dr Mary Revelas: I love that too.
• 5:33
  Dr Mary Revelas: And she was dressed, she would, she just looked phenomenal when she said it.
• 5:36
  Dr Mary Revelas: And I loved it and it stuck with me.
• 5:38
  Dr Mary Revelas: And I use it in every single one of my presentations.
• 5:40
  Dr Mary Revelas: And I'm particularly passionate about women in midlife because I want them to have clarity, energy, and I want them to feel younger than what's on their birth certificates.
• 5:52
  Dom Hind: Yeah, I think that's great.
• 5:53
  Dom Hind: I love Health Span and Joy Span together.
• 5:55
  Dom Hind: Together, sorry.
• 5:56
  Dr Mary Revelas: There's been a great um book release, Joy Span.
• 5:59
  Dr Mary Revelas: I forget the lady, the author's name, but it's about how she helped her mother focus on joy.
• 6:06
  Dom Hind: Joy.
• 6:07
  Dom Hind: And joy is where it is all at.
• 6:10
  Dom Hind: Okay, let's get into the questions.
• 6:13
  Dom Hind: What's one moment in your own life where your body gave you a massive wake-up call?
• 6:23
  Dr Mary Revelas: Oh, that's easy.
• 6:24
  Dr Mary Revelas: Definitely during my um PhD, I was raising a young family, and we all know that that's happy chaos.
• 6:32
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 6:32
  Dr Mary Revelas: My body was so dehydrated, and all I was doing was giving it caffeine.
• 6:36
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um movement didn't really exist in my world.
• 6:40
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah.
• 6:41
  Dr Mary Revelas: And I remember at the end, at the end of my research, you have to synthesize everything together and to make a cohesive into this dissertation.
• 6:49
  Dr Mary Revelas: It was late at night.
• 6:50
  Dr Mary Revelas: I was sitting at my desk and I was so wired, but I was exhausted.
• 6:55
  Dr Mary Revelas: And then I was just like, what am I doing?
• 6:57
  Dr Mary Revelas: I'm reading about the science of longevity whilst actively compromising my own health.
• 7:03
  Dr Mary Revelas: And I've done a stellar job of it.
• 7:05
  Dr Mary Revelas: I was like, time for change.
• 7:09
  Dr Mary Revelas: I think it was like when I was writing the summary, I was like, oh, I'm not doing that.
• 7:13
  Dr Mary Revelas: I said, I'm not doing that.
• 7:14
  Dr Mary Revelas: I'm not doing this.
• 7:16
  Dr Mary Revelas: And did you start doing it though?
• 7:18
  Dr Mary Revelas: I did.
• 7:19
  Dr Mary Revelas: It was at that it I had a light bulb moment, I suppose, because it was it was at my desk.
• 7:27
  Dom Hind: Yeah, and you weren't practicing what you were literally or researching.
• 7:32
  Dr Mary Revelas: Uh no, definitely not.
• 7:33
  Dr Mary Revelas: It was chaos.
• 7:34
  Dr Mary Revelas: It was chaos.
• 7:36
  Dr Mary Revelas: And what was the first thing you did?
• 7:38
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, I turned off my laptop because it was late.
• 7:40
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah.
• 7:41
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, and then I went to bed, I got a good night's sleep, and the next day I incorporated some movement, and then I sat down and I took some time to reflect uh to what's how I'm going to readjust because it wasn't working.
• 7:56
  Dom Hind: Is sleep really important for you?
• 7:59
  Dr Mary Revelas: Sleep is one of the most important things you can do for yourself.
• 8:04
  Dr Mary Revelas: So one of the signs of Alzheimer's disease is um a path is amyloid beta.
• 8:11
  Dr Mary Revelas: It's like this protein plaque in your brain.
• 8:13
  Dr Mary Revelas: If you have a bad night's sleep, it increases your chance of amyloid in your brain by 4%.
• 8:19
  Dr Mary Revelas: Wow.
• 8:20
  Dr Mary Revelas: So think of that now when you had kids.
• 8:23
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah, yeah.
• 8:24
  Dr Mary Revelas: Think of a shift worker.
• 8:26
  Dr Mary Revelas: Ah, yes.
• 8:27
  Dom Hind: Like so it's a big thing.
• 8:29
  Dom Hind: Huge.
• 8:30
  Dom Hind: Okay.
• 8:31
  Dom Hind: I'm trying to get better at sleep.
• 8:33
  Dom Hind: I really am.
• 8:34
  Dom Hind: It's one of my things.
• 8:35
  Dom Hind: 2026 sleep.
• 8:37
  Dom Hind: Sleep hygiene.
• 8:38
  Dom Hind: Um, I know what your answer is going to be to this one, but you've seen so many health trends.
• 8:45
  Dom Hind: Which ones make you roll your eyes the most?
• 8:49
  Dr Mary Revelas: Oh my word.
• 8:50
  Dr Mary Revelas: Dom, definitely peptide stacking, peptide therapy.
• 8:55
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah.
• 8:55
  Dr Mary Revelas: Now I just want to classify GLP1 agonists.
• 8:59
  Dr Mary Revelas: I'm not talking about that.
• 9:00
  Dr Mary Revelas: I'm not talking about Azempic.
• 9:01
  Dr Mary Revelas: They've been through human um clinical trials.
• 9:04
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah.
• 9:04
  Dr Mary Revelas: I'm talking about every time I open Instagram, there's some wellness or longevity promising women that they can feel better and the brain fog will lift and start peptide stacking.
• 9:16
  Dr Mary Revelas: And I even had a DM from a prominence clinic in Double Bay.
• 9:20
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um so there's things like BB, BBC157, TB500.
• 9:27
  Dr Mary Revelas: Weirdest names.
• 9:29
  Dr Mary Revelas: Just yeah, so difficult to remember.
• 9:31
  Dr Mary Revelas: M TOC, and they are they promise things for like mitochondrial health, joint repair, yeah, anti-aging, and all a peptide is is it's a short chain of amino acids.
• 9:43
  Dr Mary Revelas: But those gray area clinical peptides, they haven't gone through not one human clinical trial.
• 9:52
  Dom Hind: Lots of rat trials.
• 9:53
  Dr Mary Revelas: Rat trials, I think in Croatia.
• 9:55
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 9:56
  Dr Mary Revelas: I have to confirm that.
• 9:57
  Dr Mary Revelas: But from memory, I think there was just actually like one.
• 9:59
  Dr Mary Revelas: And look, I'm excited about it.
• 10:02
  Dr Mary Revelas: I'm not saying that it's not there, possibly it could be there, but let's just design the study, make sure that there aren't any after effects, make sure that it's safe because what you're getting for ordering is not regulated.
• 10:15
  Dr Mary Revelas: So it is a massive no.
• 10:17
  Dom Hind: Okay.
• 10:18
  Dr Mary Revelas: Actually, can I add another thing?
• 10:19
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah, yeah, go on.
• 10:20
  Dr Mary Revelas: I have a pet peeve.
• 10:22
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah.
• 10:22
  Dr Mary Revelas: And I don't know, because this is a marketing background, but um, I'm sure I'm guilty of using the term biohack.
• 10:29
  Dom Hind: Yeah, yes.
• 10:30
  Dr Mary Revelas: But I remember I was listening to a podcast by Steve Bartlett, and he was interviewing um this one of the state's most prominent defense lawyers.
• 10:39
  Dr Mary Revelas: Oh, yes.
• 10:40
  Dr Mary Revelas: And they were talking about the art of conversation and the power of words, and then I thought about the word biohack, and it just irritates me now immensely.
• 10:48
  Dr Mary Revelas: I think it's an insult to the complexity of the human body.
• 10:52
  Dr Mary Revelas: It's just they're just trying to sell women a shortcut.
• 10:55
  Dr Mary Revelas: You cannot hack your way to health.
• 10:57
  Dr Mary Revelas: You have to understand your body, you have to support your body, you have to work with your body, and you have to do the work daily.
• 11:04
  Dom Hind: Oh, I love hearing that because biohack, it just makes me go.
• 11:08
  Dom Hind: It's clever.
• 11:10
  Dom Hind: Whoever came up with the city.
• 11:11
  Dom Hind: Oh, it is very great from a marketing background.
• 11:14
  Dom Hind: It is amazing, but I think you you the way that you put it is there's no shortcut.
• 11:19
  Dom Hind: There's no shit.
• 11:20
  Dom Hind: You actually do have to do the work or do understand your body.
• 11:22
  Dom Hind: You have to do the work.
• 11:24
  Dom Hind: It's probably gonna make me unpopular, but you have to do the work.
• 11:27
  Dom Hind: But that's what your, you know, what your background is.
• 11:31
  Dom Hind: So was there a time that you realized you were doing everything right, but still not feeling great?
• 11:39
  Dr Mary Revelas: Well, I don't think how life goes that you can always do everything right, but definitely, so that night at my desk when I was writing up, I did change a lot of things.
• 11:51
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, and one of the things I changed actually, because we were speaking about earlier.
• 11:55
  Dr Mary Revelas: Have you heard of the term chronotype?
• 11:57
  Dr Mary Revelas: So chronotype is when somebody says they are morning, um right, sorry, morning person or night.
• 12:04
  Dr Mary Revelas: So that's actually got a genetic basis.
• 12:06
  Dr Mary Revelas: There's a group of clock genes, and they are responsible for like your circadian rhythm, the onset of sleep and the duration of sleep.
• 12:15
  Dr Mary Revelas: And I'm actually a morning person.
• 12:18
  Dr Mary Revelas: So when I put the kids to bed and I was doing work at night, it didn't work for me.
• 12:22
  Dr Mary Revelas: So I I changed that and it helped me tremendously.
• 12:27
  Dr Mary Revelas: So you can actually tell that from your genes.
• 12:29
  Dr Mary Revelas: You can.
• 12:30
  Dr Mary Revelas: There's a few clocks, one per three.
• 12:33
  Dr Mary Revelas: There's another one I can't remember.
• 12:34
  Dr Mary Revelas: I think it's SIP one.
• 12:36
  Dr Mary Revelas: The names are quite complicated too.
• 12:38
  Dr Mary Revelas: But there's also interactions.
• 12:40
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, yeah.
• 12:42
  Dom Hind: Wow.
• 12:43
  Dr Mary Revelas: That's interesting.
• 12:44
  Dr Mary Revelas: It's so interesting.
• 12:45
  Dr Mary Revelas: And then actually, I've got another variant.
• 12:47
  Dr Mary Revelas: Have you heard of MTHFR?
• 12:48
  Dr Mary Revelas: It might be popular with a lot of nutritionists and naturopaths.
• 12:52
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 12:52
  Dr Mary Revelas: I know it sounds like an expletive.
• 12:54
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 12:56
  Dr Mary Revelas: But MTHFR is a gene name.
• 12:58
  Dr Mary Revelas: It encodes this protein, which stands for methyl tetrahydrofolate reductase, very mouthful.
• 13:06
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, but basically what that does is it converts folate in your body to um homocysteine and methionine.
• 13:14
  Dom Hind: Yes.
• 13:15
  Dr Mary Revelas: And my variant doesn't function as well.
• 13:17
  Dr Mary Revelas: So I simply switch that by making sure I have a lot of dark leafy green vegetables in my diet and I take methylated B vitamins.
• 13:26
  Dr Mary Revelas: And if I'm really desperate, I've had injectable vitamin um B12 uh vitamins as well.
• 13:33
  Dom Hind: Right.
• 13:34
  Dr Mary Revelas: So it's like little, I have those.
• 13:37
  Dr Mary Revelas: I think the chronotype was the biggest thing for me though.
• 13:39
  Dom Hind: Yeah, just yeah, turning into a morning person.
• 13:41
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 13:42
  Dr Mary Revelas: Well, I do my best work in the morning.
• 13:44
  Dr Mary Revelas: So if I haven't done it, it's not happening at night.
• 13:48
  Dom Hind: Um, okay, let's rewind a bit.
• 13:50
  Dom Hind: You began your academic journey in South Africa studying microbiology and antibiotic resistance.
• 13:58
  Dom Hind: What drew you to that?
• 14:00
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um well, growing up in South Africa, I saw how infectious diseases shape communities.
• 14:08
  Dr Mary Revelas: And um I suppose microbiology just gave me a lens into the invisible world which drives disease.
• 14:16
  Dr Mary Revelas: So it's funny how you'll never forget the simple things.
• 14:20
  Dr Mary Revelas: My first practical at university, so I just started with a Bachelor of Science because I wasn't sure what I wanted to do.
• 14:26
  Dr Mary Revelas: And they offer you microbiology term one, term two genetics, biochem.
• 14:31
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, and then not AI, we called it bio something else.
• 14:36
  Dr Mary Revelas: Biohacking, no.
• 14:37
  Dr Mary Revelas: And the first um, the first practical for microbiology, it was so simple, but it was so interesting.
• 14:45
  Dr Mary Revelas: We were in pairs and they gave us a little nutrient A Gardesh, and they said, go to the bathroom and touch a surface, any surface.
• 14:53
  Dr Mary Revelas: You want to be brave and touch the toilet seat square for your life.
• 14:55
  Dr Mary Revelas: You want to touch the door handle, do it.
• 14:57
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, and then don't wash your hand, come back and do a little streak on the plate.
• 15:03
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 15:04
  Dr Mary Revelas: And then go into a control where you touch the same spot and you wash your hands.
• 15:08
  Dr Mary Revelas: And we incubated it and we see what grew the next day.
• 15:12
  Dr Mary Revelas: And I will I'll never forget the simplicity of washing hands because I saw the difference.
• 15:18
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 15:19
  Dom Hind: Wow.
• 15:20
  Dom Hind: I need to make sure my son listens to this.
• 15:23
  Dr Mary Revelas: Oh, you could do it, you can do it at home with him.
• 15:25
  Dr Mary Revelas: Okay.
• 15:25
  Dr Mary Revelas: Uh fun I don't look generally uh in women's cubicles, the cleaner's cubicle tends to be the first one.
• 15:31
  Dr Mary Revelas: Oh, really?
• 15:32
  Dr Mary Revelas: Okay, great.
• 15:32
  Dr Mary Revelas: That's it.
• 15:33
  Dom Hind: Um that's what I'm going to now.
• 15:35
  Dr Mary Revelas: I always go to the first one.
• 15:36
  Dr Mary Revelas: I don't know, it's sunk in since then.
• 15:38
  Dr Mary Revelas: Right.
• 15:39
  Dr Mary Revelas: And then I suppose antibiotic resistance.
• 15:41
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, it was during the HIV AIDS epidemic.
• 15:44
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 15:45
  Dr Mary Revelas: And a lot of people were dying, not from AIDS, but because they were immunocompromised.
• 15:49
  Dr Mary Revelas: So they were dying from secondary infections.
• 15:52
  Dr Mary Revelas: And I looked at tuberculosis and I was just amazed at how this little microorganism could outwit a drug.
• 16:00
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 16:00
  Dr Mary Revelas: And it just, I don't know, it's showed me what's not giving up is.
• 16:06
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 16:06
  Dr Mary Revelas: And adapting.
• 16:09
  Dom Hind: Yeah, that's okay.
• 16:10
  Dom Hind: That's a amazing way of doing it.
• 16:11
  Dom Hind: Or thinking about it.
• 16:13
  Dom Hind: Um at some point you shifted your focus to aging and longevity, earning your PhD.
• 16:20
  Dom Hind: Um, what inspired the transition?
• 16:26
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um well, I think there's two answers to that question.
• 16:31
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um firstly, from a personal point of view, my husband Peter's been very good with his grandparents.
• 16:38
  Dr Mary Revelas: Like he would always go and spend time with them and he'd always uh phone them whenever he could.
• 16:42
  Dr Mary Revelas: His grandmother on his maternal side suffered from dementia.
• 16:46
  Dr Mary Revelas: And I remember one Sunday we were at home and he had phoned to speak to her, and she didn't recognize him straight away.
• 16:52
  Dr Mary Revelas: And he was explaining, it's Peter, yeah, yeah.
• 16:56
  Dr Mary Revelas: And his heart was broken.
• 16:58
  Dr Mary Revelas: And I remember him saying, you know, you you kind of lose that person in increments.
• 17:04
  Dr Mary Revelas: And I haven't had um on my side of a family, I haven't had any dementia.
• 17:09
  Dr Mary Revelas: So it was my first sort of exposure to that.
• 17:11
  Dr Mary Revelas: We've had other things, we've got cardiovascular risk and cancers.
• 17:15
  Dr Mary Revelas: And then um when I got here, I couldn't work because of my visa constraints.
• 17:22
  Dr Mary Revelas: So I thought it would be great to do a PhD because then I could still stay current and then kind of upskill because I didn't have a job to go back to um after maternity leave.
• 17:34
  Dr Mary Revelas: So I went online and then I started just researching and I came across the Center for Healthy Brain Aging, who, by the way, do you know our senior Australian of the year, um, prof Henry Bode, I don't think I pronounced he's um the co-founder.
• 17:51
  Dr Mary Revelas: Oh wow.
• 17:52
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah, so I was very proud to see his name up there.
• 17:55
  Dr Mary Revelas: So he I started it with Professor Satch.
• 17:58
  Dr Mary Revelas: And then I just emailed them and I went in for a few meetings, and they had a few um projects available.
• 18:07
  Dr Mary Revelas: And then I just, I don't know, there was some that were quite heavily stats focused.
• 18:11
  Dr Mary Revelas: I was like, no.
• 18:12
  Dr Mary Revelas: And I just that's why I just wanted to see why some people age with vitality and youth and others fade away.
• 18:19
  Dom Hind: Yeah, and what like is there a key?
• 18:23
  Dr Mary Revelas: There's lots of things you can do.
• 18:25
  Dr Mary Revelas: Actually, I know Prof.
• 18:26
  Dr Mary Revelas: Brodete's on a mission um this year to raise awareness for dementia.
• 18:32
  Dr Mary Revelas: He says that he we need a slip-slop slap equivalent for dementia because a lot of the risk factors are modifiable.
• 18:40
  Dom Hind: And dementia starts early on because of the impacts or the way that you're living earlier in your life, doesn't it?
• 18:48
  Dom Hind: Like it is something that doesn't just happen.
• 18:50
  Dom Hind: It's a long-term impact or effect.
• 18:53
  Dr Mary Revelas: Dementia is like the umbrella term, and underneath dementia, you get like Alzheimer's disease, you get Lewy body dementia, you get Parkinson's dementia, you get vascular dementia.
• 19:02
  Dr Mary Revelas: But dementia is a disease of midlife with symptoms only appearing later on by your 60s or your 70s.
• 19:09
  Dr Mary Revelas: So exactly what you said, midlife is not um, it's a great time for reset.
• 19:15
  Dom Hind: Yeah, right.
• 19:16
  Dom Hind: Great.
• 19:16
  Dom Hind: Just after like a knee surgery and a shoulder surgery, you start exercising again.
• 19:22
  Dom Hind: Um you you received the Dean's Award for outstanding PhD thesis, which is amazing.
• 19:30
  Dom Hind: Like it's unbelievable.
• 19:32
  Dom Hind: What did you discover about why some people live so long and so well?
• 19:39
  Dr Mary Revelas: That it's not just about genetics, it's also how your genes behave.
• 19:44
  Dr Mary Revelas: But um, genetics definitely does play a role, and it's quite interesting.
• 19:49
  Dr Mary Revelas: So, your first step in uh when you begin a PhD is to summarize what's currently known so you can find what's missing and you can um uh contribute new content.
• 20:02
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, so I performed this meta-analysis, which is a really big study.
• 20:08
  Dr Mary Revelas: So, everybody around the world, whichever genes they associated with aging, you look at it and you do some stats and you see whether it is significantly associated with aging.
• 20:16
  Dr Mary Revelas: So five out of the nine genes were associated with aging.
• 20:19
  Dr Mary Revelas: Interestingly, your heritability of longevity is low, it's 7 to 15 percent.
• 20:27
  Dr Mary Revelas: But twin studies show us that after the age of 65, that increases to 30%.
• 20:32
  Dr Mary Revelas: Right.
• 20:33
  Dr Mary Revelas: So that tells us that when you're young, your behaviors and your environment play a more predominant role, but something does kick in later on in life.
• 20:46
  Dr Mary Revelas: We don't understand completely what it is, but there is a genetic basis.
• 20:51
  Dr Mary Revelas: And then there have been like two other studies.
• 20:53
  Dr Mary Revelas: There was a New England centenarian study and an Okinawan centenarian study, and they showed that if you had a sibling that reached 100 years of age, you were twice as likely as the next person to reach that.
• 21:04
  Dr Mary Revelas: Oh, wow.
• 21:05
  Dr Mary Revelas: So your genes definitely play a role.
• 21:08
  Dr Mary Revelas: We just haven't managed to understand the mechanisms, I supp I suppose, as yet fully.
• 21:14
  Dom Hind: Okay.
• 21:14
  Dom Hind: Wow.
• 21:15
  Dom Hind: Okay.
• 21:16
  Dom Hind: So what I mean, if lifestyle is a factor for helping you live a better health span and a have a better joy span, are there three things that you can actually go, make sure you're doing this, make sure you're doing that, make sure you're doing this?
• 21:35
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, it's lots of things because aging is cumulative, it compounds.
• 21:40
  Dr Mary Revelas: So I love that.
• 21:42
  Dom Hind: It is, it does compound.
• 21:43
  Dom Hind: And it it's interesting.
• 21:44
  Dom Hind: Even now I go, which is why I stopped running.
• 21:47
  Dom Hind: I need to think of my 80 year old body.
• 21:49
  Dom Hind: Yes or my 80 year old self because what I do today actually impacts myself down the track.
• 21:55
  Dr Mary Revelas: I love that well, Danton.
• 21:56
  Dr Mary Revelas: Hey plus There's lots, there's lots of things that we can do.
• 22:02
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um lifestyle choices, sleep, uh uh diet, exercise.
• 22:08
  Dom Hind: What about alcohol?
• 22:10
  Dr Mary Revelas: Alcohol is a no generally, but you can't negate so let's try and talk about joy span.
• 22:17
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah, yeah.
• 22:18
  Dr Mary Revelas: If you're meeting a friend and you're having one aproil split spritz and you're catching up with your best friend, I think that negates Yeah, yeah, okay.
• 22:25
  Dr Mary Revelas: You know, because there's that interaction.
• 22:27
  Dom Hind: But it's not to excess.
• 22:29
  Dr Mary Revelas: No.
• 22:29
  Dom Hind: Okay.
• 22:30
  Dom Hind: Not that I drink, but just for anyone listening.
• 22:33
  Dom Hind: Okay.
• 22:36
  Dom Hind: Your research at the Center for Healthy Brain Aging, which I think it that's like that that would be just fascinating to see.
• 22:44
  Dom Hind: It looked at genes, lifestyle, and environment uh over time.
• 22:48
  Dom Hind: What did that teach you about what really influences uh the way that we age?
• 22:57
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um again, that it's cumulative, so it's your genetic makeup, but your genes play a bigger role later on in life.
• 23:06
  Dr Mary Revelas: And it's other things on how we can express those genes, choices that we make with our food, with our exercise.
• 23:13
  Dr Mary Revelas: Exercise is the most bang for your back when it comes to anti-aging.
• 23:20
  Dr Mary Revelas: Because when you exercise, you release these myokines.
• 23:23
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 23:24
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, one specifically like irisin and IL6 goes, it transfer, it goes through the blood brain barrier, crosses the blood-brain barrier, and it activates another gene called BDNF, which is brain-derived neurotropic factor.
• 23:38
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah.
• 23:38
  Dr Mary Revelas: This is like fertilizer for your brain.
• 23:40
  Dr Mary Revelas: And the best way we know to tell your body to express it is through exercise.
• 23:45
  Dom Hind: And is that hardcore cardio exercise or is it just anything that gets your heart rate off?
• 23:51
  Dr Mary Revelas: So I believe variety, I think you need to hit everything.
• 23:55
  Dr Mary Revelas: So not just um, look, they definitely zone five VO2 max training.
• 24:01
  Dr Mary Revelas: Definitely there's um studies with strength training as well.
• 24:04
  Dr Mary Revelas: But I think you you have to take a step back and look at everything holistically because you need your lean muscle mass, you need strong bones, you need mobility and flexibility.
• 24:16
  Dr Mary Revelas: So I don't think there's I don't think it's just one thing.
• 24:19
  Dr Mary Revelas: I think you have to split it up and hits everything.
• 24:23
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 24:23
  Dom Hind: Um, it was fascinating.
• 24:24
  Dom Hind: I did a DEXA scan a couple of months ago, and it was great just to be able to go.
• 24:29
  Dom Hind: I didn't realise about bone density, and thank goodness mine's actually okay, but bone density sort of topped out at 30s, and then you're left with whatever you've set yourself up with for the rest of your life.
• 24:43
  Dr Mary Revelas: Bone density, you must read uh Dr.
• 24:45
  Dr Mary Revelas: Von der Rice.
• 24:46
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, and she's got a book Unbreakable and she's uh yes, that one, yeah.
• 24:49
  Dom Hind: That one is yeah, I parents we need jumping.
• 24:52
  Dom Hind: Yeah, I did uh because I always buy hope.
• 24:55
  Dom Hind: Um, and I do have a rebounder at home.
• 24:58
  Dom Hind: So buying hope.
• 25:02
  Dom Hind: Maybe some pep plates too, but um peptides.
• 25:05
  Dr Mary Revelas: No, peptides, Tom.
• 25:06
  Dr Mary Revelas: Not until they're regulated.
• 25:11
  Dom Hind: Um, you often talk about the total view of health.
• 25:15
  Dom Hind: What does that look like for someone listening right now who feels stuck or overwhelmed?
• 25:21
  Dr Mary Revelas: I think it's always very hard when you're stuck because you're in that position, but it's being able to take a break and take pause and step back and then seeing not just the symptoms, but seeing the patterns and the trends, and then try and joining the dots and understanding what your body needs as a whole, because it doesn't work in isolation.
• 25:43
  Dom Hind: I totally agree with that right now.
• 25:46
  Dom Hind: I'm feeling very like I've got to go back to basics for the next 48 years of my life based on knee surgery, shoulder surgery, eye surgery.
• 25:56
  Dom Hind: Like I just feel like everything I need to take that total view and take a step back and start from the basics.
• 26:02
  Dr Mary Revelas: Basics are the best.
• 26:03
  Dr Mary Revelas: And especially like also I I know women feel dismissed a lot of the time when they go to the GP and they said their bloods are normal.
• 26:10
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 26:11
  Dom Hind: And I understand, but it is also finding a great GP as well.
• 26:14
  Dr Mary Revelas: It's finding a great GP, but it's also, I think you also need to go in prepared.
• 26:18
  Dr Mary Revelas: I agree.
• 26:19
  Dr Mary Revelas: And I think you need to um take control of your own medical health dashboard and you need to go in and you need to say, right, okay, personally, my father's had a heart attack.
• 26:27
  Dr Mary Revelas: So I want LPA and APOB testing with my lipid panel.
• 26:31
  Dr Mary Revelas: We have cancer on my mum's side of the family.
• 26:34
  Dr Mary Revelas: I want not just the general thyroid panel.
• 26:38
  Dom Hind: You have to, I'm sure you How would someone how would a normal person know what to ask for?
• 26:43
  Dr Mary Revelas: Just help use chat to just be able to say these are the types of things that if family history Well, family history, you kind of have an idea before, even if you don't have a genetic test, you kind of know what your mom or what your dad had or what happens in the family.
• 26:56
  Dr Mary Revelas: And then just go and don't book a 15-minute appointment with your GP if you really want to delve in with it.
• 27:02
  Dr Mary Revelas: I mean, they're also human, they also, it's their job, they're seeing so many people during the day.
• 27:06
  Dr Mary Revelas: You can't expect the clinician to know Mary's here, oh Mary's dad has the you've got to be able to speak up for yourself and say, I'm worried about this, it's a stressful period of my life.
• 27:17
  Dr Mary Revelas: Can we check?
• 27:18
  Dr Mary Revelas: I don't know, inflammation markers.
• 27:22
  Dom Hind: Yeah, I think that it is it's so important for you to own your own health.
• 27:26
  Dom Hind: Like I literally just took all of my health records from Medicare, from my health, from every from all of the imaging and have just created one master summary so that I can actually go when a doctor says, What have you had done?
• 27:39
  Dom Hind: What surgeries, when, what, and I can just go, the ego.
• 27:43
  Dom Hind: I don't know how to do that.
• 27:44
  Dr Mary Revelas: Everybody should do that.
• 27:45
  Dr Mary Revelas: I haven't done that.
• 27:46
  Dom Hind: I'll send you mine and you'll be like, or I'll send you the prompt and you can do it.
• 27:53
  Dom Hind: Um how do you help people move from the information overload to clarity and action?
• 28:02
  Dr Mary Revelas: Okay, so I try and simplify.
• 28:04
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 28:05
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, I've developed, so I'm very proud of my Greek heritage, and um, with agevantage, everything that I've developed has like a Greek word in it.
• 28:13
  Dr Mary Revelas: So I've developed this agape framework, and agape is a Greek word for love.
• 28:18
  Dom Hind: Okay.
• 28:19
  Dr Mary Revelas: So I it goes, how do we activate what we have, guard it, absorb it, protect, and integrate.
• 28:25
  Dr Mary Revelas: And then depending on the result or depending on what it is.
• 28:28
  Dr Mary Revelas: So for example, I know everybody knows that VO2 Max is one of the greatest predictors of longevity, but what's not out there yet is that it's actually affected by your genetic heritability.
• 28:39
  Dom Hind: Oh, really?
• 28:40
  Dr Mary Revelas: 40 to 60 percent.
• 28:41
  Dr Mary Revelas: So you might be a high respondent, I might be a low responder, and then you might be getting fantastic results, and my results might not be that great, but at least you know, I need to worry about myself and stay in my own league and be like, it's fine, I'm still improving, but I might not be able to get there.
• 28:59
  Dom Hind: It's interesting because even like from a VO2 max perspective, I've got like mine's quite good, but my heart resting heart rate is so high as well.
• 29:08
  Dom Hind: And it's always I always joke with Justin saying I've got a budgy heart because it just it just beats all the time.
• 29:14
  Dom Hind: I'm just yeah, it just constantly goes.
• 29:16
  Dom Hind: But I'm like, you know, the one way of getting your VO2 up is by reducing your resting heart rate.
• 29:22
  Dom Hind: And it's like it's just me.
• 29:25
  Dr Mary Revelas: I think it's hard for women in general because I think I don't know, my heart rate variability score is woeful and my wearable.
• 29:32
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah.
• 29:33
  Dr Mary Revelas: If what I struggle with the most, but I think I don't know, we've just been trained to be in parasympathetic mode.
• 29:40
  Dr Mary Revelas: So we're always under stress and we're always on the go, and there's always something to do, and kids always need something.
• 29:44
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah, always like go, go, go.
• 29:47
  Dr Mary Revelas: So I understand why the heart rate is on, okay, what are we doing?
• 29:54
  Dom Hind: Um, so with your doing your the the five things, what do you actually do?
• 30:00
  Dom Hind: So what tests do you actually need to go?
• 30:03
  Dom Hind: So when someone comes to see you, what do you get them to do?
• 30:08
  Dr Mary Revelas: So as simple as swap and then we send it off to the lab four to six weeks, and then we get a whole lot of genetic information.
• 30:15
  Dr Mary Revelas: If they have a DEXA scan, that would be great.
• 30:17
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yes.
• 30:18
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, a DEXA scan VO2 Max would be great as well.
• 30:22
  Dr Mary Revelas: And grip strength would be also great.
• 30:26
  Dr Mary Revelas: And then um I talk to them because everybody will have different strengths and weaknesses.
• 30:31
  Dr Mary Revelas: So you have to maximize your strengths and work on your weaknesses.
• 30:35
  Dom Hind: Group strength is one that I'm just I'm terrible.
• 30:38
  Dr Mary Revelas: I had um when I had kids with the Pram, I've had cortisone injections in my wrists.
• 30:43
  Dom Hind: Ah, right.
• 30:44
  Dr Mary Revelas: So my grip strength isn't what are you doing to uh I'm trying to hang.
• 30:48
  Dr Mary Revelas: So when I take my kids to Lyme Park, I'm on the monkey bar.
• 30:52
  Dr Mary Revelas: And I'm like, go me, come.
• 30:54
  Dr Mary Revelas: How long do you get?
• 30:56
  Dr Mary Revelas: I haven't, I think my score wasn't great.
• 31:00
  Dr Mary Revelas: I'd say 45 seconds, but I'm working on it.
• 31:03
  Dom Hind: You know what?
• 31:03
  Dom Hind: It's funny, I've just swapped gyms because I can't do strength training.
• 31:08
  Dom Hind: I've literally got to go back to basics.
• 31:10
  Dom Hind: And every time I leave the gym, I literally just hang on the bars in between the big gym bros, and I'm just there hanging.
• 31:18
  Dom Hind: That's good.
• 31:18
  Dom Hind: That's great.
• 31:19
  Dom Hind: That's great.
• 31:20
  Dom Hind: I do think they look at me and go, can you just get out of our space?
• 31:26
  Dom Hind: But I don't care.
• 31:27
  Dom Hind: Um, a lot of women hit their 40s and feel like their bodies have betrayed them.
• 31:32
  Dom Hind: Their energy has gone, their sleeps all over the shop, the mood, the weight.
• 31:38
  Dom Hind: How do you help them get back control?
• 31:42
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, through education and compassion.
• 31:46
  Dr Mary Revelas: So knowledge is power and knowledge is agency.
• 31:50
  Dr Mary Revelas: So when they come and speak to me, we unpack everything that's happening biologically.
• 31:56
  Dr Mary Revelas: So hormones, inflammation, diet, perimenopause, because I think that once you understand it, it moves away from fear to empowerment.
• 32:05
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah.
• 32:05
  Dr Mary Revelas: And that as soon as it just takes a little bit of a change and then it has a knock-on effect, and then you get better.
• 32:12
  Dom Hind: Yeah, and I think it that you are so true.
• 32:14
  Dom Hind: The knowledge does help to open doors and help you to see and have an awareness of what you should and you shouldn't be doing as well.
• 32:22
  Dr Mary Revelas: Because I think it's just natural we always fear the unknown.
• 32:25
  Dom Hind: Yes.
• 32:25
  Dom Hind: Yep.
• 32:26
  Dom Hind: And how much of what we experience at this stage is biology versus belief?
• 32:33
  Dr Mary Revelas: I love that question.
• 32:35
  Dr Mary Revelas: I love that question.
• 32:36
  Dr Mary Revelas: Okay, so biology definitely sets the scene, but mindset directs the story.
• 32:41
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um amazing.
• 32:42
  Dr Mary Revelas: There was a study in super ages.
• 32:45
  Dr Mary Revelas: There's a part in your brain, I'm just trying to see if I can remember the name.
• 32:48
  Dr Mary Revelas: People have dubbed it the willpower gene.
• 32:52
  Dr Mary Revelas: And in these super ages, it's larger.
• 32:54
  Dr Mary Revelas: And you know how it grows?
• 32:56
  Dr Mary Revelas: It grows when we do hard things.
• 32:58
  Dr Mary Revelas: So when you don't give up and when life throws problems at you, and it's how you deal with those adversities, and how you get up and dust yourself off growth mindset, it's probably in the growth mindset.
• 33:10
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah.
• 33:10
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, I I'll put in the notes after the names escape me now.
• 33:15
  Dr Mary Revelas: I think it's a and oh no, I forgot any.
• 33:18
  Dom Hind: Anyway, you know what?
• 33:18
  Dom Hind: I think the more important thing is it's that resilience and grit to get back up and do it.
• 33:23
  Dom Hind: Definitely.
• 33:25
  Dr Mary Revelas: Mindset, mindset matters.
• 33:27
  Dr Mary Revelas: And even if it's just daily, even if it's like trying your best to hold the plank, and even if you collapse the two seconds before, as long as you could try the next day, yeah.
• 33:36
  Dr Mary Revelas: Just as long as you keep on pushing yourself.
• 33:39
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 33:39
  Dom Hind: Okay, good.
• 33:40
  Dom Hind: I like that.
• 33:41
  Dom Hind: Uh, what's the biggest myth about aging well that you wish could be debunked forever?
• 33:48
  Dr Mary Revelas: That it's about looking younger and that it's about a number on a scale.
• 33:51
  Dr Mary Revelas: So when you said you went for a DEXA scan, you made my heart happy because I'd rather know your bone mineral density, I'd rather know your lean muscle mass.
• 34:00
  Dr Mary Revelas: I don't care about the kilograms.
• 34:03
  Dom Hind: Yeah, oh, I don't care about the kilograms either.
• 34:05
  Dom Hind: I just want to make sure that it's all in right proportions.
• 34:07
  Dom Hind: And I was really worried just about the bone density.
• 34:11
  Dr Mary Revelas: But I think I don't know, growing up, we were taught to care about the kilograms, and I don't want um, I've got a little girl and I don't want to I want them to worry about the right things.
• 34:23
  Dom Hind: Oh, and being strong.
• 34:24
  Dom Hind: And um I mean I've dealt with my mum having anorexia for 55 years, and it's horrific because all of that is about a number on the scale rather than it about her being healthy.
• 34:36
  Dom Hind: Hope being healthy or strong.
• 34:37
  Dom Hind: Strong.
• 34:37
  Dom Hind: Yeah, which is what it's all about.
• 34:40
  Dom Hind: Because I think the number on the scale, that would have a massive impact on your health span as well, and your mindset with that, rather than, you know.
• 34:51
  Dr Mary Revelas: Well, there's a bit of that's a bit tricky because there's um there's published papers that say caloric restriction helps extend.
• 34:58
  Dr Mary Revelas: Oh really?
• 34:59
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yes.
• 35:00
  Dr Mary Revelas: But that that I would argue and say where's the where's the joy span in this?
• 35:08
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah, yeah.
• 35:08
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah.
• 35:08
  Dr Mary Revelas: Life is messy.
• 35:11
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah.
• 35:11
  Dr Mary Revelas: So you have good days, bad days.
• 35:15
  Dom Hind: Yep.
• 35:16
  Dom Hind: Um, which at the everyone is talking about longevity at the moment.
• 35:21
  Dr Mary Revelas: And it's become when I started studying, nobody knew what I was doing.
• 35:24
  Dr Mary Revelas: So I did it part-time while having kids, and everybody's like, What?
• 35:27
  Dr Mary Revelas: Now there's like a longevity buzzword.
• 35:29
  Dr Mary Revelas: You can't open up Instagram without there's a wellness influencer talking about biohacking every two minutes.
• 35:34
  Dr Mary Revelas: I know, but so you really are the original longevity researcher.
• 35:39
  Dr Mary Revelas: I don't know if I'm the original I'd say the rules.
• 35:41
  Dom Hind: One of the Prof.
• 35:42
  Dom Hind: David Sinclair.
• 35:45
  Dom Hind: Yeah, probably.
• 35:46
  Dom Hind: Probably.
• 35:47
  Dom Hind: But you have been doing it a long time, and it hasn't just been something that you've added on to your bowl of achievements or your string of things that you're doing.
• 35:57
  Dom Hind: It is something that has been ingrained in really everything that you've been doing.
• 36:02
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 36:03
  Dom Hind: You're like, yep, uh, what do I need to say?
• 36:06
  Dom Hind: Okay.
• 36:08
  Dom Hind: Um, so you are now opening a new chapter for you.
• 36:12
  Dom Hind: Um what draws you to that now?
• 36:18
  Dr Mary Revelas: That's um that's quite difficult to talk about because um so my mum's recently been diagnosed with cancer.
• 36:27
  Dr Mary Revelas: And um longevity, I think Dr.
• 36:32
  Dr Mary Revelas: Peter Atia talked about it most in his book.
• 36:34
  Dr Mary Revelas: So longevity medicine explains how there was medicine 2.0, which is where we wait for the heart attack to happen and it's all reactive.
• 36:42
  Dr Mary Revelas: Longevity medicine is about, you know, understanding your genetics, looking at your biomarkers, mitigating your risk.
• 36:49
  Dr Mary Revelas: So I think you can sum it up by saying it's preventative and it's proactive.
• 36:55
  Dr Mary Revelas: And what I wouldn't give um to go back for, you know, a screening test, because prevention is really priceless.
• 37:05
  Dr Mary Revelas: And I think um, especially for women, you know, you always put yourself last because you're busy.
• 37:11
  Dr Mary Revelas: Women are actually leading the longevity race, but we spend more time of that um suffering chronic disease and disability.
• 37:20
  Dr Mary Revelas: Apparently, we don't complain as much and we just get things done.
• 37:23
  Dr Mary Revelas: Isn't that like the grit coming out again?
• 37:26
  Dr Mary Revelas: We make um the appointments for everybody else.
• 37:29
  Dr Mary Revelas: And I'm actually like I'm frustrated myself as well because Peter and I are overdue for our skin cancer checkup.
• 37:35
  Dr Mary Revelas: Oh my goodness, man.
• 37:36
  Dr Mary Revelas: I know, I know, and I got um my children spend a lot of time in the sun, and normally the dermatologist never wants to.
• 37:43
  Dr Mary Revelas: I want the dermatologist to assess each of my kids properly so I can take them.
• 37:47
  Dr Mary Revelas: So I had two appointments and I've gotten them for my kids in April, and I'm like, Pete and I also need appointments.
• 37:54
  Dr Mary Revelas: But it's on my list, and I will do it, and I'm not gonna leave it.
• 37:57
  Dr Mary Revelas: But that's a perfect example.
• 37:59
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 38:00
  Dr Mary Revelas: But it's hard, I don't know.
• 38:01
  Dr Mary Revelas: With women, it's just you always you never prioritize yourself.
• 38:06
  Dom Hind: Do you know what?
• 38:06
  Dom Hind: It that used to be the case for me as well.
• 38:10
  Dom Hind: But when I started owning my medical history and my medical record, I now make it a priority.
• 38:18
  Dr Mary Revelas: I think I need to learn that from you.
• 38:21
  Dom Hind: Yeah, like well, because if you're not healthy, you can't take you can't take care of everyone else.
• 38:27
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 38:27
  Dom Hind: So it has to be a priority.
• 38:30
  Dom Hind: And I'm going to make you after we leave here.
• 38:35
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah, as I made the book, I knew, and I I went, I got my referral and I was like, yes, and I'm like, but it is hard, like you do have to do the referral.
• 38:42
  Dom Hind: But I mean, I always go and see my doctor who I love, uh, she's the best, in like the first week of January.
• 38:49
  Dom Hind: And I'm like, okay, first week of January, I need all of these referrals for all of these doctors that you've referred me to.
• 38:56
  Dom Hind: I also need to get all of my bloods done and anything else you need, think that I need to get done.
• 39:02
  Dom Hind: And we do it all then, so that then I'm set up for the rest of the year.
• 39:05
  Dr Mary Revelas: Well then I think I need to.
• 39:06
  Dr Mary Revelas: January is a good time to do it.
• 39:08
  Dom Hind: Well, it's not that busy and everyone's away.
• 39:10
  Dom Hind: So if you are here, it's a perfect time to be doing it.
• 39:13
  Dr Mary Revelas: True.
• 39:14
  Dom Hind: There you go.
• 39:15
  Dom Hind: Um, so longevity sounds really intimidating or elitist, or actually, you know what?
• 39:23
  Dom Hind: I think biohacking just sounds very elitist now.
• 39:27
  Dom Hind: Oh, how can everyday people make longevity and good health span and joy span achievable?
• 39:36
  Dr Mary Revelas: Okay, so you have to fix your fundamentals.
• 39:38
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, and I've got another little acronym, a Greek one.
• 39:42
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah.
• 39:42
  Dr Mary Revelas: So it's um VIOS, it means life.
• 39:46
  Dr Mary Revelas: So B stands for brain fitness.
• 39:49
  Dom Hind: Uh-huh.
• 39:49
  Dr Mary Revelas: So your brain's got like four cognitive domains.
• 39:52
  Dr Mary Revelas: It's got um executive function, which is basically like the CEO and structures and reorganizes everything.
• 39:59
  Dr Mary Revelas: It's got processing speed, it's got um attention, you know, as you get older.
• 40:05
  Dr Mary Revelas: If you want to, do you lower the volume on the radio so that you can reverse into a car park?
• 40:10
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yes.
• 40:11
  Dom Hind: Not yet.
• 40:13
  Dom Hind: I turn up the volume when the kids are in the car so I can't hear them.
• 40:16
  Dr Mary Revelas: Is that uh what else?
• 40:19
  Dr Mary Revelas: Do I say processing speed memory, attention, and executive function?
• 40:22
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 40:23
  Dr Mary Revelas: So ideally, you want to be training your brain as well.
• 40:27
  Dr Mary Revelas: I actually bought a brain grain.
• 40:29
  Dr Mary Revelas: Okay, go on.
• 40:30
  Dr Mary Revelas: Let's do it.
• 40:30
  Dr Mary Revelas: Okay, let's do it.
• 40:32
  Dom Hind: So hang on, and what does so training your brain, how do you do that every day?
• 40:36
  Dom Hind: And is that like luminosity, like all those things, or is it can I do like Seduca or like what is training your brain every day?
• 40:44
  Dr Mary Revelas: All of that helps.
• 40:45
  Dr Mary Revelas: There's a study, um, there's published studies for reading and writing.
• 40:49
  Dr Mary Revelas: So we uh writing's actually huge, and that's uh quite a big worry for our children because they have a lot of online things.
• 40:57
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um I think the study was in Japan, in the Japanese centenarians, it sh it was for writing.
• 41:06
  Dr Mary Revelas: And and just as in journaling or just writing?
• 41:09
  Dr Mary Revelas: Just writing, creative writing.
• 41:10
  Dr Mary Revelas: Writing, because we aren't writing anymore.
• 41:12
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah, right.
• 41:12
  Dr Mary Revelas: It just fires up different neurons.
• 41:15
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, because every it's like your retirement fund, every sort of little thing you do, it's a training it for later in life.
• 41:23
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, what else is there?
• 41:25
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, even just novelty.
• 41:28
  Dr Mary Revelas: So it loves if you not everybody can go out and has the time to learn a new hobby or learn a new language, but if you even just taking a different route home and seeing something different or changing your walking route is good for you.
• 41:42
  Dom Hind: Yeah, wow, that's actually really interesting, isn't it?
• 41:44
  Dom Hind: Like every yeah, or starting a podcast or something.
• 41:47
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 41:47
  Dr Mary Revelas: So well done.
• 41:48
  Dr Mary Revelas: This is actually, I think they call it it's the stroop challenge.
• 41:52
  Dr Mary Revelas: Okay.
• 41:53
  Dr Mary Revelas: So it's quite, let's see.
• 41:55
  Dr Mary Revelas: I think um you've got to say the first time, you've got to say uh the word and not the colored cardboard.
• 42:02
  Dom Hind: Okay.
• 42:03
  Dom Hind: Okay, you ready?
• 42:03
  Dom Hind: So what colour am I saying the word?
• 42:05
  Dom Hind: You're saying the word saying the word.
• 42:06
  Dom Hind: Okay, blue, green.
• 42:08
  Dr Mary Revelas: What you're faster than I could turn.
• 42:10
  Dom Hind: I can't even read that.
• 42:10
  Dom Hind: Does that say yellow?
• 42:11
  Dom Hind: Yellow.
• 42:12
  Dom Hind: Okay, black.
• 42:14
  Dr Mary Revelas: Well done.
• 42:15
  Dom Hind: I'm too slow.
• 42:17
  Dom Hind: Oh, I can't even.
• 42:18
  Dom Hind: Does that say red?
• 42:19
  Dom Hind: Red.
• 42:19
  Dom Hind: Yeah, okay, great.
• 42:20
  Dr Mary Revelas: Okay, now you've got to say, now you've got to say the colour of the cardboard, not the word.
• 42:24
  Dom Hind: Okay, red, yellow, purple, white.
• 42:28
  Dom Hind: Oh, come on, Mary.
• 42:31
  Dr Mary Revelas: I know.
• 42:31
  Dr Mary Revelas: Green.
• 42:32
  Dr Mary Revelas: Well done.
• 42:33
  Dr Mary Revelas: I was gonna say next you need to say, um, then you can improve this each time.
• 42:37
  Dr Mary Revelas: You can say the in colour, and then you can say odd and even.
• 42:40
  Dr Mary Revelas: But clearly I'm not as and then you keep on building.
• 42:43
  Dr Mary Revelas: Okay, right.
• 42:44
  Dr Mary Revelas: And then now you say like these um numbers, but you say them backwards.
• 42:49
  Dom Hind: Okay.
• 42:50
  Dr Mary Revelas: So 56 is 65.
• 42:52
  Dr Mary Revelas: 822?
• 42:55
  Dom Hind: 228.
• 42:56
  Dr Mary Revelas: 741.
• 42:58
  Dom Hind: 147.
• 42:59
  Dr Mary Revelas: I'm too slow for rotating this.
• 43:01
  Dr Mary Revelas: My skills, that's 2080.
• 43:04
  Dom Hind: 2080, is it?
• 43:05
  Dom Hind: It is 82.
• 43:08
  Dom Hind: Uh two, hang on, because I can't see because my eyes are I have to do.
• 43:12
  Dr Mary Revelas: So you are 80 would be 82.
• 43:14
  Dom Hind: 2080.
• 43:15
  Dom Hind: Oh no, an 80.
• 43:18
  Dom Hind: Yeah, it'd be 820, 802.
• 43:20
  Dom Hind: 2080, because you don't say the zero.
• 43:23
  Dom Hind: You don't say the zero.
• 43:25
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 43:25
  Dr Mary Revelas: 3,764.
• 43:28
  Dom Hind: 4,670.
• 43:30
  Dom Hind: What's that first letter?
• 43:31
  Dr Mary Revelas: Three.
• 43:32
  Dom Hind: Three?
• 43:32
  Dr Mary Revelas: Well done.
• 43:33
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, so there's actually um in an ideal world uh where, you know, like elite athletes like Formula One drivers and tennis players, like they have gyms where they're working on their physical fitness, but then they have to do dual tasking with um a ball?
• 43:53
  Dom Hind: Is that like where they use the ball?
• 43:54
  Dr Mary Revelas: With the ball.
• 43:55
  Dr Mary Revelas: Like they'll say you've got to maybe only hit the red light bulbs coming up on the wall.
• 43:59
  Dr Mary Revelas: Uh yes, where they're on that screen and they're there playing that.
• 44:02
  Dr Mary Revelas: Or if we did this now but we had to be lunging, like it would be a lot more difficult if you were lunging and you were like blue, blah.
• 44:08
  Dr Mary Revelas: Not just sitting down, it would.
• 44:11
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um okay.
• 44:12
  Dr Mary Revelas: I stands for inputs.
• 44:15
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um inputs uh is just whole foods, I suppose.
• 44:20
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yes.
• 44:20
  Dr Mary Revelas: Some pro Mediterranean whole food.
• 44:22
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 44:22
  Dr Mary Revelas: Output would be your exercise.
• 44:24
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yes.
• 44:25
  Dr Mary Revelas: And S would be what you're gonna work on this year, your sleep and social connections.
• 44:30
  Dr Mary Revelas: Okay.
• 44:30
  Dr Mary Revelas: You don't need social connections.
• 44:34
  Dom Hind: But you know what, sleep is hard because I get up so early in the morning to go to gym before you get the kids up from school, because it's really the only time for me.
• 44:42
  Dom Hind: If I'm not going to bed at 9:30, which doesn't happen often.
• 44:46
  Dom Hind: It needs to happen often.
• 44:47
  Dom Hind: Why is it not happening often?
• 44:48
  Dom Hind: Oh, just because I don't know, just things to do.
• 44:52
  Dom Hind: Yeah, okay.
• 44:53
  Dom Hind: I think it I just need to set leave the things to do.
• 44:56
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah.
• 44:57
  Dr Mary Revelas: You need to look at your priorities because your brain needs to hit different phases.
• 45:01
  Dr Mary Revelas: It needs that deep sleep.
• 45:03
  Dr Mary Revelas: They call it the gymphatic.
• 45:04
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, it's when it like, in essence, it takes out of it takes the trash out.
• 45:08
  Dr Mary Revelas: Uh so it's clearing your brain out.
• 45:10
  Dr Mary Revelas: I always like I tell my kids go sleep.
• 45:13
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yes.
• 45:13
  Dr Mary Revelas: It's good for you.
• 45:16
  Dr Mary Revelas: Okay, good.
• 45:18
  Dom Hind: Um, and I guess my next question is probably gonna be you're gonna tell me one of them is gonna be sleep better.
• 45:24
  Dom Hind: Um, if we all did just three things differently after 45, what would they be?
• 45:30
  Dr Mary Revelas: Number one would be sleep.
• 45:31
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yes, thanks, Mary.
• 45:32
  Dr Mary Revelas: Sleep, but like it's your longevity lever.
• 45:35
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah, number two would be um strength train.
• 45:39
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yes.
• 45:40
  Dr Mary Revelas: So there's actually a study which was undertaken here in Australia and it's been referenced quite a lot.
• 45:44
  Dom Hind: Oh, yes, I know that one.
• 45:46
  Dr Mary Revelas: Lift long.
• 45:46
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah.
• 45:47
  Dr Mary Revelas: So they took a group of um 65-year-old women that had osteoporosis and they made them strength train two to three times a week and they actually increased their bone mineral density.
• 45:57
  Dr Mary Revelas: So even if your DEXA scan, um your dexter scan you said was okay or average?
• 46:02
  Dr Mary Revelas: No, no, it was great.
• 46:02
  Dr Mary Revelas: Oh, great.
• 46:03
  Dr Mary Revelas: That's great.
• 46:04
  Dr Mary Revelas: So even now you get your DEXA scan, you still lift heavy because you're increasing your bone mineral density.
• 46:09
  Dr Mary Revelas: Well, lift heavy in six months.
• 46:11
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah.
• 46:11
  Dr Mary Revelas: Uh and the third thing I think would be to get curious about your genetics because then it just gives you a little inside information.
• 46:22
  Dom Hind: Yeah, I think and I think genetics, one of the things that scare like uh there has been a lot of talk of is getting your genes tested and then worrying about the data.
• 46:34
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah.
• 46:34
  Dr Mary Revelas: You can request to have it.
• 46:36
  Dr Mary Revelas: I was quite it took me so long, actually, because I was very um uh my standards were quite high for the laboratory because I've worked in a lab before and I wanted to make sure it was I it had all the accreditations that um privacy, they don't sell your data.
• 46:53
  Dr Mary Revelas: You can request to have your data destroyed afterwards.
• 46:56
  Dom Hind: Right.
• 46:57
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um but yes, uh because people sometimes ask me if I've tested my kids and I haven't yet, actually, because I think I don't know, I think a part of me see sees it as it's their choice to make.
• 47:13
  Dom Hind: Yeah, right.
• 47:14
  Dr Mary Revelas: Although another part of me thinks that in the future it'll just be what happens when you have a baby at the hospital.
• 47:20
  Dr Mary Revelas: Like you know, your blood type, it got your genetic information as well.
• 47:24
  Dom Hind: And your genes obviously don't change over time, or do they?
• 47:28
  Dr Mary Revelas: No, well, you I try and explain you you're born with your genes.
• 47:33
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yes.
• 47:33
  Dr Mary Revelas: So if you are born with an inherit an inherited disorder, then you have a mutation on a certain gene, and this is the disease that you have.
• 47:42
  Dr Mary Revelas: The genes that we're looking at are all of the stuff, the all of these studies have noticed um that this variant is associated with this ju uh disease.
• 47:53
  Dr Mary Revelas: So it's looking at your risk.
• 47:56
  Dr Mary Revelas: So it says that you are at a higher risk compared to the average person at developing diabetes.
• 48:03
  Dr Mary Revelas: Right, okay.
• 48:04
  Dr Mary Revelas: But it's not inherited.
• 48:06
  Dr Mary Revelas: You can do that type of testing, but it's just two different forms of testing.
• 48:10
  Dr Mary Revelas: Okay.
• 48:11
  Dom Hind: And it does that mean that at least if you know, you can take those steps to make sure that it minimizes it or so.
• 48:18
  Dom Hind: Yeah, okay.
• 48:19
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 48:19
  Dom Hind: Which is not a bad thing.
• 48:20
  Dom Hind: It comes back to that knowledge is power again.
• 48:23
  Dr Mary Revelas: And I mean, I don't know, you you follow a recipe before you start cooking.
• 48:27
  Dr Mary Revelas: You do you?
• 48:30
  Dom Hind: Maybe you maybe you do I'm like halfway through chat.
• 48:34
  Dom Hind: Uh, what do I need to do?
• 48:36
  Dom Hind: You don't, um, you don't just get on the road and start driving.
• 48:40
  Dom Hind: Like Yeah, yeah.
• 48:41
  Dom Hind: You need a plan.
• 48:43
  Dr Mary Revelas: It's just minimizing your risk.
• 48:45
  Dr Mary Revelas: You're not gonna go swimming if you can't swim.
• 48:47
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah.
• 48:48
  Dom Hind: Unless you're on Bondi Bay.
• 48:50
  Dom Hind: Um, how do you personally switch off and recharge?
• 48:57
  Dom Hind: Oh my gosh, I struggle with that.
• 48:59
  Dom Hind: That is what I have to work at the hardest.
• 49:02
  Dom Hind: Um, you've got two things.
• 49:03
  Dom Hind: You've got to prioritize you and you've got to learn how to switch off.
• 49:06
  Dom Hind: Yeah, I can't.
• 49:07
  Dom Hind: You've got a big year, Mary.
• 49:10
  Dr Mary Revelas: My um, I I mentioned previously my heart rate variability is woeful.
• 49:14
  Dr Mary Revelas: I think I'm on the bottom here.
• 49:17
  Dr Mary Revelas: One of my gorgeous friends said, Come try yoga with me.
• 49:20
  Dr Mary Revelas: Let me tell you yoga did not work.
• 49:22
  Dr Mary Revelas: I was in downward dog, and I'm like, right, if I take the dog to the parlor, then I stop at Wheeze, and I guess the dog.
• 49:27
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um I have okay, I've tried lately.
• 49:31
  Dr Mary Revelas: Peter plays golf.
• 49:32
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yes.
• 49:33
  Dr Mary Revelas: So does my son.
• 49:34
  Dr Mary Revelas: And on a Saturday, if we get the chance, if Saturday sports lines, yeah, we'll all go to the golf course and have lunch.
• 49:42
  Dom Hind: Okay.
• 49:43
  Dr Mary Revelas: And then um the kids are allowed on the golf course after half past three.
• 49:47
  Dr Mary Revelas: So then we go and play the back nine, and then there's no phones.
• 49:50
  Dr Mary Revelas: We're out in nature, it's pretty.
• 49:53
  Dr Mary Revelas: And what I love about it is that every relationship gets some time.
• 49:58
  Dr Mary Revelas: So eventually I have to drive the cart on the first hole and the last hole.
• 50:02
  Dr Mary Revelas: I hope no one from the golf course is listening to me.
• 50:05
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, so then Catherine and I get to touch base if there's anything worrying her at school.
• 50:10
  Dom Hind: Yeah, yeah.
• 50:11
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, eventually Haralum Boss uh gets in the buggy with Catherine and they they fight or have a hard time.
• 50:18
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, Alan Kidd and I get to walk and chat, and then it's it's nice.
• 50:23
  Dr Mary Revelas: I really I think that would be the one.
• 50:25
  Dr Mary Revelas: And um the second thing is I really treasure my female friendships.
• 50:30
  Dr Mary Revelas: And I think especially in midlife, you need to, I don't know, there's nothing like a good friend.
• 50:38
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 50:38
  Dom Hind: There if, yeah, you know what?
• 50:40
  Dom Hind: It it does, it makes going through the shit so much easier when you've got someone you can talk to, or just go, I'm just not feeling it.
• 50:50
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah, and it's like I suppose we all have to go through it.
• 50:52
  Dr Mary Revelas: Like in the twin in your twenties and your 30s, you were out, you know, a lot of now you just want quality.
• 50:57
  Dom Hind: Yeah, I think that is and the thing that I also think is you want experience as well.
• 51:01
  Dom Hind: It's like you have to go and do things like go to the opera house tonight, or uh, you know, go and actually make memories with your friends rather than just doing the everyday.
• 51:11
  Dr Mary Revelas: I think you have to schedule it in though, because if it's not in the calendar, it doesn't happen.
• 51:15
  Dr Mary Revelas: So even with exercise classes, you just have to put it in the same way you schedule a meeting and you're like, nope, sorry, can't do it then.
• 51:21
  Dom Hind: Yeah, exactly.
• 51:22
  Dom Hind: And it needs to be a priority to do that too.
• 51:24
  Dom Hind: Um, what does health mean for you beyond test results?
• 51:30
  Dr Mary Revelas: Oh, that's easy.
• 51:31
  Dr Mary Revelas: It's definitely how you feel, definitely if you're happy, if you have clarity.
• 51:35
  Dr Mary Revelas: Actually, there's another study.
• 51:37
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 51:38
  Dr Mary Revelas: So this started in 1938 in Harvard.
• 51:41
  Dr Mary Revelas: The only problem I have with it is that they didn't have women in Harvard at that time yet.
• 51:45
  Dr Mary Revelas: So it was all started with men.
• 51:47
  Dr Mary Revelas: I think um John F.
• 51:49
  Dr Mary Revelas: Kennedy was originally in it.
• 51:51
  Dr Mary Revelas: And it's the longest study on health.
• 51:54
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 51:54
  Dr Mary Revelas: It's like the 80 plus study.
• 51:56
  Dr Mary Revelas: And it later grew, it's incorporated their children and their offspring.
• 52:01
  Dr Mary Revelas: And the number one factor that came out for if you have a healthy, happy life was not genes, was not epigenetics.
• 52:09
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, so your lifestyle factors, your exercise, your diet, and all of that.
• 52:13
  Dr Mary Revelas: It was the strength and quality of your relationships.
• 52:16
  Dr Mary Revelas: And I, yeah.
• 52:18
  Dr Mary Revelas: It is I do think there's something to be said for that.
• 52:22
  Dr Mary Revelas: And also, um, Prof.
• 52:25
  Dr Mary Revelas: Bodretsi had organized a Living to 100 conference a few years ago.
• 52:29
  Dr Mary Revelas: I I think I must have just started, I would have been like first year.
• 52:32
  Dr Mary Revelas: And at the end, he had five um centenarians because we have our own, there's a Sydney centenarian study, and there's also an older Australian twin study, and I don't know where they came from, which study they came from, but they came onto the stage.
• 52:46
  Dr Mary Revelas: And one woman, I'll never forget what she said, they were asking her about diets, and she has she survived the Holocaust, and she was explaining how I don't know how long she spent hidden in a room and how many days she hadn't eaten or something frightful.
• 53:04
  Dr Mary Revelas: And she said, I will eat anything that sits still long enough on my plates.
• 53:09
  Dr Mary Revelas: And I was just so you can't quantify everything.
• 53:14
  Dr Mary Revelas: No, yeah.
• 53:16
  Dr Mary Revelas: And then there was another man who played golf every Sunday with his son, and they had whiskey and a cigar.
• 53:24
  Dom Hind: So it's not just it's everything, and this is the whole thing.
• 53:29
  Dom Hind: It is holistic.
• 53:29
  Dom Hind: Like it is a holistic health actually is holistic, and it's not just what you put in your body, it's the environment that you're into.
• 53:38
  Dr Mary Revelas: I do think it's what you put in your body because I think, but you know, that was her life experience because she went through such a traumatic event.
• 53:45
  Dr Mary Revelas: I I've been lucky enough to not have to go through that.
• 53:47
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 53:48
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, yeah.
• 53:51
  Dom Hind: Interesting.
• 53:51
  Dom Hind: Is there a daily ritual that makes you feel grounded?
• 53:55
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um, calling my mom and I try and get morning sunlights and have my morning coffee and peace.
• 54:03
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah.
• 54:04
  Dr Mary Revelas: 60 to 90 minutes only after I've worked it up, though.
• 54:09
  Dom Hind: Okay, uh, rapid fire questions.
• 54:12
  Dom Hind: Supplement you swear by.
• 54:13
  Dom Hind: Okay, there's five.
• 54:14
  Dom Hind: Oh, okay, great.
• 54:18
  Dr Mary Revelas: And fish oils.
• 54:19
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yes.
• 54:19
  Dr Mary Revelas: Vitamin D and with K3, so the three tells it to stay out of your arteries, NMN and magnesium.
• 54:26
  Dom Hind: Okay, good.
• 54:27
  Dom Hind: Doing all those.
• 54:28
  Dom Hind: Um, most overrated health fad?
• 54:31
  Dom Hind: Peptides.
• 54:32
  Dom Hind: Peptides dom.
• 54:33
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 54:34
  Dom Hind: Midlife mood in one word.
• 54:37
  Dom Hind: Fears.
• 54:38
  Dom Hind: Great.
• 54:39
  Dom Hind: If your body had a playlist right now, what's the first song?
• 54:43
  Dr Mary Revelas: I think I've been interested, I've been influenced by my Swifty daughter.
• 54:47
  Dr Mary Revelas: I'd probably say shake it off.
• 54:48
  Dr Mary Revelas: But there's sometimes you can try your best, but your hormones and your moods are not playing along, and you just need to dance it off and forget it.
• 54:57
  Dom Hind: Um, your dream dinner guest for conversations about aging.
• 55:02
  Dr Mary Revelas: That would definitely be my late grandmother, my mother's mother now, because um shh, all of her ancient wisdom, we can now sort of explain the science behind it.
• 55:14
  Dr Mary Revelas: And I just uh I'm a Codelian, I love her very much.
• 55:18
  Dr Mary Revelas: We've had only one girl in the family for seven generations, so it was very special.
• 55:23
  Dom Hind: Right.
• 55:24
  Dom Hind: Nice.
• 55:25
  Dom Hind: Um, what's one truth about health, aging, or levit longevity that people need to stop ignoring and start believing?
• 55:35
  Dr Mary Revelas: Um to stop ignoring and start believing that you have the power to start now and change your trajectory.
• 55:45
  Dom Hind: Yeah, but to actually start.
• 55:47
  Dr Mary Revelas: Start.
• 55:47
  Dr Mary Revelas: The hardest part is getting started.
• 55:50
  Dom Hind: Yeah, it always is taking that first step because people get scared or find other things to do.
• 55:57
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yes, procrastination.
• 55:58
  Dr Mary Revelas: There's a part in the brain of that as well that's escaping me.
• 56:01
  Dr Mary Revelas: No, no, no.
• 56:04
  Dom Hind: Yes.
• 56:05
  Dom Hind: It's also a fear trigger as well.
• 56:06
  Dom Hind: If you uh procrastinate, it means that you are a little bit scared to actually do something.
• 56:12
  Dom Hind: Okay, last question before we wrap.
• 56:14
  Dom Hind: Okay.
• 56:15
  Dom Hind: If I could try something before I'm 50, which is now only in two years, what would you recommend that I do?
• 56:25
  Dr Mary Revelas: Oh, that's easy, but I think I'm gonna give you a biased answer.
• 56:29
  Dr Mary Revelas: I'm gonna say, get curious about your genes.
• 56:32
  Dr Mary Revelas: Yeah, I think I'm de I definitely after today, are we you can use it as a roadmap not just to survive but thrive.
• 56:41
  Dom Hind: I think that is it.
• 56:42
  Dom Hind: Survive but thrive.
• 56:43
  Dom Hind: And biased though.
• 56:45
  Dom Hind: No, no, no, but I think if you've you've been doing the research for so long, so and it is that roadmap, it does give you the knowledge so that you can live a better, healthier, healthier, fun, more joyous life.
• 57:01
  Dom Hind: I think so.
• 57:02
  Dom Hind: Okay, great.
• 57:03
  Dom Hind: All right, Dr.
• 57:05
  Dom Hind: Mary.
• 57:06
  Dom Hind: Thank you for bringing science, honesty, and heart to this conversation.
• 57:11
  Dom Hind: You make health feel less like homework and more like self-discovery.
• 57:19
  Dom Hind: You've taken something as complex as genetics, which it really is, and aging, and turned it into a conversation about possibility and what we can be doing and what is actually in our control, no matter our age or how we are actually feeling.
• 57:37
  Dom Hind: And what I love most is that you reminded us that longevity isn't about chasing youth or a number on a scale, it's about owning this season of life, our choices, our energy, our mindset, and giving ourselves permission to actually evolve.
• 57:55
  Dom Hind: You showed that living well isn't about doing more, it's about having more fun and being more focused on our health and letting go of what doesn't matter and building habits that thrive and not just let us survive.
• 58:12
  Dom Hind: So if you've been listening and thinking, I'm tired, I've tried everything, I don't know where to start, maybe today is the reminder or the push that it's not too late to start again, smarter, slower, and move in tune with yourself.
• 58:29
  Dom Hind: So if you want to learn more about Dr.
• 58:31
  Dom Hind: Mary's work at Age Vantage or generics, uh generics.
• 58:36
  Dom Hind: Genetics, I'll link everything in the show notes.
• 58:40
  Dom Hind: And if you've enjoyed this episode, share it with a friend who's ready to take the next step and make sure that they are learning more about themselves.
• 58:49
  Dom Hind: Uh, because the conversations that we have like this help us shift what aging looks and feels like for all of us.
• 58:57
  Dom Hind: Because fuck, I'm nearly 50, and isn't it amazing?