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Inside Sofia Franklyn's Team · Clyde Confidential

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: I have I think my favorite duo on the show.
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: Sorry everyone else.
• 0:05
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have you said that before I have met.
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: This is episode too.
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  Speaker 3: It's your favorite pair with the same name. That's correct.
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  Speaker 4: So, without further ado, Sophia Franklin Hi and her lovely assistant,
• 0:21
  Speaker 4: Sophia bro Hi. Okay, so you got engaged.
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: How long ago?
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  Speaker 2: I have been engaged for holy shit, ten days maybe?
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  Speaker 2: And I feel like a week of that doesn't even
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: exist because I was in Europe and then I was
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  Speaker 2: traveling back, and then I was like, you know, readjusting.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, it feels surreal still.
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  Speaker 1: So this is your first week back in New York engaged?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, wow, and it's kind of crazy. It's wonderful.
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  Speaker 2: By the way.
• 1:00
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I feel like I caught it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm so cryptic. I'm like, it's yeah, it's engaged.
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: I'm super super happy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you. Congratulations again, thank you.
• 1:16
  Speaker 4: We don't have to go into it too much, but
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  Speaker 4: I'm as a single woman, I am just curious. How
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  Speaker 4: did you know that he was the one?
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  Speaker 2: That's a really good question. I think I knew he
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  Speaker 2: was the one when I actually cared because this is
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  Speaker 2: the first time I've ever been in love, which is
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  Speaker 2: also insane because I'm, you know, in my thirties. But
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  Speaker 2: I think it was when I knew I really cared,
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  Speaker 2: and I think when I discovered how good of a
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  Speaker 2: guy he is. Those were like the two things, Like
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  Speaker 2: was there a moment where I thought to myself, oh
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  Speaker 2: my god. There were several along the way for sure
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  Speaker 2: where I was like, this is this is my guy.
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  Speaker 3: I also think you're someone that, like you obviously are
• 2:05
  Speaker 3: planning for your future and you want that and want
• 2:08
  Speaker 3: a family and those things. But I also don't think
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  Speaker 3: you necessary, like you have no idea what different engagement
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  Speaker 3: rings look like, you have no idea like different things
• 2:16
  Speaker 3: of a wedding, even the idea of like I already
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  Speaker 3: feel like you're a little bit social media verse and
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  Speaker 3: the averse, and the idea of like, oh, bridal era,
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna be doing that and we are going to
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  Speaker 3: be doing that, right. You don't. You just don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 3: You're oriented.
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  Speaker 2: That's not no, it's not my identity. And it's like
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  Speaker 2: I'm actually realizing, like I kind of built you know,
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  Speaker 2: a persona and a and a following based off of
• 2:40
  Speaker 2: being a man eater and treating them like shit. And
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  Speaker 2: that's actually genuinely how I was in my real life
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  Speaker 2: in my day to day was just like never gave
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  Speaker 2: a shit, you know. And but I think to What's
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  Speaker 2: Sofa saying, It's like I've never been that girl that
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  Speaker 2: has the pincher's board, but now I'm obsessed, Like now
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: I'm starting to get like I get the whole Bride
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  Speaker 2: era thing. But yeah, he's a great guy.
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  Speaker 1: And Soph as her assistant. When did you know that
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  Speaker 1: she had been bulldozed?
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  Speaker 3: I think that this was super intentional, like this was
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  Speaker 3: a part of just like a big life change of
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  Speaker 3: just like adulting, living your best life, like totally living
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  Speaker 3: your truest self. I think that it was honestly just
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  Speaker 3: like happened so naturally in a period of incredible self growth.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I Soph was actually integral to my breakup the
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  Speaker 2: the ex before I met my fiance, and I think
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  Speaker 2: after that there was so much growth that happened.
• 3:51
  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Breakups are like a time to glow up and grow up.
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  Speaker 1: Say it louder for the people in the.
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  Speaker 2: Back, They like they are so transfer permative and just
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: so good for you. Like they're just good for you.
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  Speaker 2: They suck, But I think it was. Yeah, it was
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  Speaker 2: like a natural thing, and I was ready and my fiance,
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  Speaker 2: I think, also is at a place where he was ready.
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  Speaker 2: So I do think there's a timing piece, you know, definitely.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so excited for you and I wish you guys
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  Speaker 1: are the best, and I hope you're enjoying this time.
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  Speaker 2: I am. I haven't enjoyed it quite yet because I
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  Speaker 2: feel like I've been on the go. But I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to We're gonna do fun stuff.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna do the wedding tryon.
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  Speaker 2: So we're gonna do I'm gonna do it all. I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna poste to like.
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  Speaker 3: More of your design tastes, like we love style and design,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that hasn't been able to shine as much.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so let's back up.
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  Speaker 4: I was actually trying to think about how we met
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  Speaker 4: because it was so long ago. I found an email
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  Speaker 4: from Chloe Sappern, who was referred to me by one
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  Speaker 4: of my other clients, Megan Group, and that's how you
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  Speaker 4: and I had initially clicked yeah yeah, in the search
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  Speaker 4: to find your person who is now Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But when we were looking for your assistant.
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  Speaker 4: Initially, I'm curious what were some of the things that
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  Speaker 4: came to mind and what was really important to you
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  Speaker 4: at the time in finding your right hand.
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  Speaker 2: So this is a fun story. I was working with
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  Speaker 2: Chloe and she was just kind of freelancing and was
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  Speaker 2: helping me run my socials and like helping me grow
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  Speaker 2: my socials and like, you know, there's a brand deal,
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  Speaker 2: like she would be handling it. And one day Chloe
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  Speaker 2: literally was like, so you need a personal assistant. You
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  Speaker 2: need an assistant and needs to be a personal assistant.
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  Speaker 2: I have other clients, I'm freelancing. You need someone on
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  Speaker 2: the ground with you. You need someone who is full time
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  Speaker 2: dedicated to you to like manage all this shit. I'm
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  Speaker 2: making myself sound like I'm like cuckoo, but I'm not
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  Speaker 2: the most well versed in social media. Doesn't come naturally
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  Speaker 2: to me. Everyone knows that. So it was really Chloe
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  Speaker 2: let me know I needed an assistant, and then yeah,
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  Speaker 2: she put us in touch, and it it did become
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  Speaker 2: like really clear. It was like, oh, no, I do
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  Speaker 2: need that. Because my whole team was actually not in
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  Speaker 2: New York, so that was very important.
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  Speaker 1: Where was the team at the time. Were they all virtual?
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  Speaker 2: They were all virtual, and we would you know, link
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  Speaker 2: up in Los Angeles. Sometimes they would come to New York,
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  Speaker 2: but it wasn't that that often. But they were based
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  Speaker 2: La Vegas, Utah. But no one on the East coast.
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  Speaker 1: So until SOF came around and she was on the ground,
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  Speaker 1: she was in it.
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  Speaker 2: She was in New York, she was around. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: really funny, Megan, because I don't even know what I
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  Speaker 2: initially said I needed or wanted, but I remember you
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: sent over some options and then I interviewed, and I
• 7:05
  Speaker 2: remember I literally said I need you to pick. And
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  Speaker 2: you and I were not even friends at this point,
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  Speaker 2: like we had had one not saying that you weren't outstanding,
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  Speaker 2: and I didn't close yet.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't we didn't click yet in the interview.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think we probably did. I mean you, interviews
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  Speaker 2: are very awkward.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I always encourage in person before someone moves forward.
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  Speaker 1: You can't tell on zoom at all.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't bad in any way. It was in person.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think you know what I could tell
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  Speaker 2: about you so right away is you were you were
• 7:39
  Speaker 2: gonna make sure shit got done and you're gonna be
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  Speaker 2: on top of it, and you're gonna make sure it happen.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that I was like, I know, this
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  Speaker 2: is my girl, but it means that I gotta come.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta get comfy with the fact that I also
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  Speaker 2: will have to get shipped account.
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  Speaker 3: You know. I remember you said in the interview, you
• 7:59
  Speaker 3: were like, because I really wanted I feel like it's
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  Speaker 3: so rare to have people that are mostly in person now, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and it definitely I wanted something structured, and I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I do think it would be amazing if we could
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  Speaker 3: try to do three days to start with, and you
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  Speaker 3: were like, I want to build a room for you
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  Speaker 3: in my apartment, Like we will do a cubicle, we
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  Speaker 3: will have hours, we will add in the shit out
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  Speaker 3: of this, Like I want you here, and i'd actually
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  Speaker 3: like you move in right with social media and also
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  Speaker 3: just with entertainment too, and like you've worked with actresses
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  Speaker 3: and it's like it's not it is hard to live
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  Speaker 3: a structured life around work, and like, I think that
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  Speaker 3: was something really important for us to be Like, let's
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  Speaker 3: pretend we're clocking in yaking it, you know, because it'll
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  Speaker 3: make you feel better about yourself.
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  Speaker 4: You have to create, you have to be disciplined. It's
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  Speaker 4: definitely a preference. I have a lot of candidates who
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  Speaker 4: will always ask, can I work from home one day?
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  Speaker 4: Do I have to be at the office every day?
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  Speaker 4: Or do I have to be at their home every day?
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  Speaker 4: So it's a preference. I mean, I think we all
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  Speaker 4: know that things get done.
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  Speaker 1: Ten x when you're in person.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I do two to three days a week with my team,
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  Speaker 4: and it's always amazing. Mondays I never do in person
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  Speaker 4: because I mondays are rough for everyone, but I do
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  Speaker 4: for day for days.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I should think, little little hot tip. Sometimes we do.
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  Speaker 3: And I think this is obviously like once you've grown
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  Speaker 3: into the role and have so much mutual trust, and
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  Speaker 3: also like you are not a micromanager. We're both very
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  Speaker 3: like we'll run our ships. I'll like ask where your
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  Speaker 3: ship's at, redirect your ship, have your ship kind of
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  Speaker 3: to the same sea as me, But you don't try.
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  Speaker 2: To I do not micromanager's not.
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  Speaker 3: A micromanager at all. We've started saying this thing where
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  Speaker 3: like when we want to work in person for just
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  Speaker 3: pure accountability of like having a warm body next to
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  Speaker 3: each other, but we don't necessarily want to be accountable
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  Speaker 3: for like being on all day. We'll be like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna be in person, but we're just doing parallel play. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we're just doing a parallel play. Yeah, and like we'll
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  Speaker 3: check in, but you literally text me yesterday you we're like,
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  Speaker 3: if you come over, I need us to only talk
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  Speaker 3: every three hours.
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  Speaker 2: I said that for Beta, and then I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say because you know, it's hard. It's like
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  Speaker 2: you're hanging out with someone and you have like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so much shit you want to talk about, and you're like,
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  Speaker 2: if we go down that road, it's a lot to
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  Speaker 2: get you work done. Yeah, at all.
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  Speaker 1: I usually want to work.
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  Speaker 3: It's so hard. It's so hard.
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  Speaker 2: That part is hard. And I don't really think any
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  Speaker 2: other industry is like that when it comes to you know,
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  Speaker 2: talent and their assistant, except I guess high high profile people,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, like a fucking millionaire, billionaire businessman or politicians.
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  Speaker 2: But I think in like corporate America. You know, I
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: worked at Morgan Stanley. Like, you're assistant, there's no.
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  Speaker 1: You worked at Morgan Stanley.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, four years, and I was a glorified assistant. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't do anything cool.
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  Speaker 3: Well worked for a whole team of financial advisors.
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  Speaker 2: And when I say it wasn't cool, and I say,
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  Speaker 2: use the word assistant, this was it Morgan Stanley in
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  Speaker 2: a cubicle. So it wasn't cool. And I wish I
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  Speaker 2: would have known this whole world existed, because I would
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: have tried to be so would have been really scary.
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: Maybe not, Maybe you're.
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  Speaker 3: Really do you love some really? Sorry we're going no,
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  Speaker 3: I I know you were to add that is going
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  Speaker 3: to live in my thought free for the next three days,
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: like you have known. She's known true like corporate existential
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  Speaker 3: dreat like you've you've experienced the other side. I also
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  Speaker 3: do think specifically with influencing a lot of people, it
• 11:23
  Speaker 3: is kind of like their for a into having a career.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's not sometimes people don't have like a
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  Speaker 3: career before that. But you had a full you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, I had a full nine to five like serious ship.
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: Wow. Oh yeah, I'm just going to quickly say that
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: if we did switch places, you are very good at
• 11:41
  Speaker 3: the at the strict PA stuff of like flights.
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: I love like I like, I swear to God it's adall.
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: I swear to God, it's when I take out all
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: and then I just love like I live in the minutia.
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, and this is going to
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: be like two minutes later. But then we could like
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: kind of like do a hack here. And I like
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: to do the admin and I love that.
• 12:03
  Speaker 3: Amazon orders like you you, oh.
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  Speaker 2: My god, And I do research per day.
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: You crush it easier to do the Amazon set yourself.
• 12:12
  Speaker 3: I know she crushes it, but it's a deep dive.
• 12:16
  Speaker 3: One thing that he was gonna do is a deep dive.
• 12:18
  Speaker 3: She's gonna be like, but maybe I am keto tomorrow.
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: What grain do I want? And what is a grain?
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  Speaker 2: By the way, I am a podcaster. That actually is
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: what I do for work. This is just a side gig,
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: which we're talking about Amazon in the flight shopping is
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  Speaker 2: just a side hustle of mine.
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  Speaker 4: I am just picturing you are not topic having a
• 12:40
  Speaker 4: time like a sale, Like you will turn over every product,
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  Speaker 4: look up every review, like you are basically the online
• 12:49
  Speaker 4: version of like an intense not even coop on or
• 12:52
  Speaker 4: you just want your researcher you love.
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  Speaker 3: I think one of our differences to just in terms
• 12:57
  Speaker 3: of like something that doesn't matter at all is if
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: you love a you will read every like instruction review
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: to storial, I am so hands out, Like if we
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  Speaker 3: get furniture in, I'm like tearing it apart. She's YouTube video.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, we don't mean to look at the instructions.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just like.
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  Speaker 3: You read the reviews.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you also write the reviews.
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  Speaker 2: I don't do that. I couldn't bring myself to do it.
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: And I've like, there's been one or two times where
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: I felt very very slighted at the Mew MEU at
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  Speaker 2: the Mew Mew in Midtown.
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: Not quite an Amazon order?
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: Man, do we want to go into this?
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: What happened? I'm like taking over your podcast? This is
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: how you know. I just got back from Europe and
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: have been talking the same man for thirty days.
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  Speaker 1: I'm that guy.
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: Man, I'm just a random man. How about so, she
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  Speaker 3: said you pick me pick what she said? We had
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: our interview, then she said you pick. I'm going back
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: to megast.
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: Oh yes, us on try.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: I was very confused for a second. Okay, yeah, she
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: did tell me to pick, and I picked.
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  Speaker 2: You and I were on the couch and I knew
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: that it was you and I also another member from
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  Speaker 2: the team had interviewed you as well, and I remember
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: she told me after the call, she said, Sofa is
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: your girl, And I was like, yeah, but I mean,
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: is she is it going to be like I'm a
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: little bit like crazy and out there, my employee said,
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: She was like, that is exactly what you need.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: That is exactly what you need.
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  Speaker 2: You need someone who's gonna like keep you in check,
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  Speaker 2: in line, you know, and you can go be someone
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  Speaker 2: that can kind of manage the situation.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: Remind me how long it's been since you.
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: Two have been working together, almost a proper year and
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: a half. Yeah, wow, yeah, yeah, it's it's flown by.
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: I think that you. I think you've told me this before,
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: but I think you were a little bit worried I
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: was going to be a little bit but up.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, a little too button.
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  Speaker 3: Academic in our interview, like I don't know, because we
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  Speaker 3: also had a different member of the team that was
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: like steering in a stain way, so I could tell that,
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: but I thought I was a little bit more Yeah, let's.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Let's go back to the first impressions of one another.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you thought she was buttoned up. I thought she
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: was buttoned up what did.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: You wear to the interview?
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  Speaker 3: It was over the I don't know if you could
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: even see my I don't even think. I don't remember that.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: I think it was just you were, you know. And
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  Speaker 2: part of the reason I actually, uh had had personal
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: assistance before, obviously, and I was in a bit of
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: a little period where I didn't have anyone, but they
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: were I would kind of like birds of a feather
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  Speaker 2: flock together and like attract girls who were similar to me,
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  Speaker 2: party girls, let's get after it, let's get crazy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and those two things I think, you know, they probably
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: can work. And now I'm more of an adult and
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  Speaker 2: I think now I could maybe have an assistant that
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: was a little more like party girl. But this is
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: this yin and yang is why it works and what
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: I needed.
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  Speaker 4: It's also when you have an assistant, there were a
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  Speaker 4: representation of you out in society, so you leave her
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: apartment and people.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Know that you work for Sophia.
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  Speaker 4: So if you have a party girl as your assistant,
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  Speaker 4: it's not great.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, yeah, I remember there was a fashion week
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: event and I remember my she was freelancing, but she
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: was my assistant at the time. Showed up in like
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: basically what Kanye West Bianca like his wife, like what
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: he has her where? Okay, Like so no clothes, a
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: slightly better style, but it was a thong, and I
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: was just like, we're going to Lagen's or something like,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: there's no reason it's not Alexander Wing And still there's
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  Speaker 2: no reason, you know. And also am I taking pictures
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  Speaker 2: of you?
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Or like.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: You guys did get really good pictures together? We did?
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, but I just remember being like, wait, this
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: is kind of crazy because it is a representation. You know.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about that a little bit.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: Because a lot of assistants always ask what do I
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: wear to work or if I'm going to an event,
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: what do I wear when I'm walking around with my boss?
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: How do you handle those situations? And what are you
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: putting on your body?
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Sophia, It's actually really interesting. We talk about this kind
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: of a lot because we talk about everything under the sun. Yeah,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: mostly like being women in the world, So I forget
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: about this a lot. I think that we kind of
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: balance each other out in a way, Like I think
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: I can be a little bit in style and genuine
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: preference a little bit more matronly, and maybe that's where
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: you got the button the girl in the Yeah, but
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: like because I love the prep, like I just love prep.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: But then also I don't pick you as a prep.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it has That's why I like it. Jen used
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: to call me preppy. I don't. I guess I'm wearing
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: a rough.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: I see it as like like coastal.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Not like, man, it's not your vines.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: It's not vineyard vines. I think just like I like
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: a big pin stripe.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: She like sit down overdes I love the.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: Stripe, a caller, a Lily Pultzer, vineyard vines.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that in a way, though sometimes in
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: a totally appropriate way, Like sometimes I will feel a
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: little bit comfortable being slightly more revealing than Sophia in
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: a way because you also come from like Jewish, Catholic,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Mormon guilt yarrah, and like a lot of people telling you,
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Like sometimes you will look at me and be like,
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: is this crazy wear to therapy, And I'm like, because
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: we can see that you have shoulders, is this crazy?
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: No more? By the way, in Utah, girls are wearing
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: T shirts with tank tops over them. Okay, so they
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: cover their shoulder lies because it's like part of the
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: kind of culture there like be Mormons. It's intenating. But yeah,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I definitely can do that. But I think, you know,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: since your assistant is your representation in physical form when
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: you guys go anywhere, I'm pretty laid back in chill,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: you know. I think though it's like and also we
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: like go somewhere nice, it's dress up, do the glam,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: do the makeup. I think though, when it's honestly, if
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: anyone else was wearing what my assistant was wearing that
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Data fashion Week, I would have been stressed out. I
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: would have been stressed out. Why you know, it was
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: like wild, But I don't. I think that's that's interesting, Like, so,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: how do you know just as an assistant because everyone's
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: so different, Like Morgan Stanley, I knew I had to
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: dress business casual. How do you know?
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Like what I think that I don't know. I guess
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: it's kind of your own senses and also just having
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: your own And do other assistants.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Ask you for advice on this, because I I would
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: want to know.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Not assistance, but my friends who have corporate jobs or like,
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: they ask two things, one like what do you get
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: to wear? And also do you get to sit on
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: the couch and I'm like I do and my posture
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: is horrible, horrible posture. I also chose to be I
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: do this thing where I like performatively subconsciously, like for
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: her to know and us to know that I'm like
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: working really hard. I'll do like an extra hunch even
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: when I don't have to, like a signal that we're
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: really grinding, which is ridiculous. I do think though, one
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: piece of advice I think for assistance, I wonder if
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: you felt like this ever, I think I've had to
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: get very comfortable with, like the way I leave my
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: apartment is how I'm gonna look for the day.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: Like totally I do not I don't know what time
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: you're going home. No, you have to be in comfortable shoes. Yes,
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: you're gonna be running around.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: And I really really try to, like when we're going
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: to an event sometimes, like I'll have to, like when
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: we went to the gallop, I have to change when
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I'm with you. But I never want you kind of
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: have to like surrender any self consciousness. I don't ever
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: want to be like dressing my makeup. I never want
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: you to think like I'm wondering how I look like
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Sometimes we'll have fun moments and I'll be like this with
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: this like joke about my skinny scarf. But I always
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: wanted to feel like the skin I wore like a
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: little chiffon, like little skinny. Yeah. Yeah, but I was
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: doing I was doing a bit, she was doing a bit.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: I was doing a flip. I was doing a bit.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: But I never wanted I wanted to feel like it's
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: all hands on deck with you.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: I never want to be right, you know, and your.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Friend's stressing and you're all getting ready together, and then
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: it's like not fun. I just there's no you have
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: to surrender any of that. I try not to check
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: myself in the mirror.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: That's why job, because there are assistants that I've seen
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: who will do the whole lamp thing and make the
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: night about them instead of their boss.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: And that is where you get into trouble.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that yeah, yeah. I have ran into that,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: not often, not with SO, not with SO in the past,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: and it's it is a little bit like if I'm
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: needing to go to an event, I know I'm gonna
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: be photographed, like I'm I get self conscious, I get
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: in secret, I get stressed, I get anxiety and so yeah,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: you like depend on you know, your assistant one hundred.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: But that is crazy, like I I soph makes everything
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: seem so seamless. The fact that you're like avoiding mirrors
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: and shit, but I don't feel like you're like not
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: paying attention to me is crazy. But I get it.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: But like I get it.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Together, like I don't want, yeah, put that energy out.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: I also think that obviously we strike a balance, but
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: like sometimes you're a little we know when to like
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: be together and not be together, and it's very unspoken.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: But I also think it's not like, oh, then my
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: boss will go get ready and I'll go ready, Like no, no, no, everything.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: You're not getting ready.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: You're in the bathroom throwing a black dress on the stall,
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: and like I'll do a little to thirty seconds.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, little brush, you're out of there.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: And it's not. It's also like going into public and
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: going to events is not even though it looks so seamless,
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: it's not like it's a mind it's a mind fuck.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Like for your boss, you know, it's a trick. We're
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: we're talking why are we even doing this? We'll talk
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: through like how do we want to pose I'll like
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: mimic your poses back and forth, or we'll just like
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: put it on a ship. Getting ready is setting a
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: vibe and like you just want to be so present
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: for that as an assistant, or like be in the
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: other room like sometimes intentionally like we need space.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: But whatever it is, make a mo make.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: That is my number one comfort. Because you're drinking, I.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Normally don't drink it, like with courage.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: It's just having it there.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Yea, I understand.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: I'll take like one step and be like, oh my god,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: it's the alcohol. I okay.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: So, aside from sof not looking in mirrors, what makes
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: her the best assistant?
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, there's a lot of stuff that being
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: so an incredible assistant. I think there's things that make
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: her really good, just like objectively and would be true
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: across the board. I think for the relationship with me personally,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: the fact that she well, let me start with like
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: general broad so gives a ship and like, you know
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: when I worked at Morgan Stanley, do you think I
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: gave a flying fuck if I got back to my
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: financial Advisor's the billionaire client who's throwing a fit? I'm like,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: it's five PM. I like you know, unplug my phone
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: and I'm in the Slam's laptop.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: You should be.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: It's like bye, bitch, but so like she actually cares
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: and that is everything, you know. And then I think, well,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: she's very I mean, she's all these things right, She's
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: like very smart, she's well spoken. She gets the creative piece,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: she also gets like the administrative piece, she gets the
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: mental health piece. Like since working with sop, I've kind
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: of gotten insight into the world of being I don't
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I mean how to refer not yeah, like a talent person, celebrity,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: a talent person's assistant.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Famous podcaster, I do, and you're fremely famous podcast and
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: hello here in the field.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: You will not catch me re foring myself as famous.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: We are in the presence of someone very very.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Important on this couch.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: You see her on the mine.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I have Sophia Franklin in my apartment.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, entering, they said it, not me. But working as
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: a personal assistant in the entertainment world and for like
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: high profile people, high profile makes it better. She you
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: have to take care of not just be a creative
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: and the content and make sure like the logistics are there.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: You have to be a mental health professional. You have
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: to be a therapist.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Emotional intelligence that but also.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Like know what my needs are before, anticipate, anticipate and
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: kind of just like know and make decisions right so
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I don't need to make them. There's so much shit
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: that goes into it. It's like you guys should have CEO,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: CFO COO and all the above in any role you
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: could be in a company on your guys' resume, because
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: that's what the system is. It's fucking crazy.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: I genuinely think we have a lot of mutual admiration
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: for each other. Yeah, I think like I take so
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: much pride in being your system. I believe in you,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: like I believe in your story, and I think that
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: that is so shared. Like I think we just had
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: so many crazy Yes I wasn't like a party girl,
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: but you're not either now now.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Now, it took a minute, I get that out of
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: my system.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: We've had very different, like external lives, I feel like,
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: but we are so similar in a lot of weight.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: We're very like kindred in a way, you know, and
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: like weirdly, when I started working for you, like immediately
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: had like very similar experiences you would have had like
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: literally a year before like totally a lot of stuff overlaps. Also,
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: I think our biggest thing is we really clicked with humor. Yeah,
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: that's how we connected.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, which is major. You're spending that much time one
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: on one time intimate, it's it's intimate as ship, so intimate.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Who is funnier?
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: That was the exact same I'm going to say.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: So, I'm gonna say me, just get yourself, but like,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: you're fun you can do things I can't do, but
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: I can crack you up.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: She can crack We're both very funny, similar humor, but
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: then we kind of have our own vibes.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Start laughing all day long, all day cackling.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Also, we start screaming at each other this close to
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: each other all day. We also have the same I
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: would say comedy inspo, which is the real housewise of
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: New York. I mean like those are women, those are
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: and girls.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: And girls enviep, ENVIEP. Yeah, So, but's also humor. I
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: guess that's why it's like, how the fuck do you
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: see if you vibe there during a zoom.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: In right right?
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's impossible. No one's gonna crack a joke in
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: the middle of their assist an interview.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: It would have to be like a dad joke, which
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: that would be fucking crazy to do. That would be insane.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: When I first met you, you like, there's so much like
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: physical comedy too. I want to one day make a
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: TikTok of us, like impersonating each other because the way
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: you walk around. When I first walked into Sofia's apartment
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: the first day, she left the door unlocked for me.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: I come in. She comes creeping on her tiptoes outside room,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: and she's.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Like, I'm sorry.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: I feel like I just hit all my stuff in
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: my room because my mom's checking if I cleaned up.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Here's my here's my special little honey I got in.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: The Lower East Side. I definitely could have gotten it
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: for four dollars, but it was thirty two dollars. Such
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: a rip off. But also try it and I was
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: like this, this is awesome. It's not like incense. I
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: was like, this person has an identity, though, like such a.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Full You're such a full. I have a person's study. Yeah,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I definitely have an identity and a personality. You also
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: remember you said I was holding like a big first
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: pen and juicy note, and I had a list and
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I want to tell her what the list was. I
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: want to I literally want to jump out of my.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: Spirit because I could tell you were like, okay, you
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: really planned. But she had a little juicy furry juicy
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: coutur notebook furry pen and it was sitting on the
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: coffee table and it said so task list or something
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: and it said like the first thing was like.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know the oh.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: The first thing was take take come up with it.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: No, take product pictures because you had like a heap
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: of like.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, you had a heap of gifting.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Imagine how much gifting, so much stuff.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: And then the next one was just fine, TikTok, I
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: think I'm gonna get the job.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Product TikTok.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: I think I.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Can handle this.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: And then I also asked you the most basic, like
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: before we left for a recording, I was like, have
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: you eaten? Are you gonna need food? And you were
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: like this is when you know you gotta keep a
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: girl around and I was like, I mean yeah, like
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: we're gonna be gone for four hours.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: That is one of the most crucial parts of being
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: someone's assistant.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Hey, have you eaten today? If you are if you
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: have fifteen minutes in between meetings. Do need something to eat?
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: You need a coffee? Do you need a salad?
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Having that ready?
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: Being inntspiratory, my god, crucial and had one sip of water.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: That's very important. I don't be honest, We're so bad.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: It's so bad the water I have, Like I thought
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I had rabies. I have like an aversion to water.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Do you know that that's a symptom of having rabies?
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Water scares you.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: My arm started to twitch one day right here because
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: I was dehydrated. I was at lunch with my friend Christina,
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: and she goes, you're you're chitchen because I was dehydrated
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: and muscles.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're probably gonna get a cramp.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know what. My eye will do
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: that sometimes when I'm dehydrated, really or when I haven't slept.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: Have you guys seen that water bottle on Amazon that
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: says it has all the lines of motivational I try
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: to get you to drink what I have one it
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: doesn't work.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: So if you also you're a tracker, so you also
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: need to be having it from the water, like the
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: water you do drink. You want to know how much
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: it was, so I can't just give you a random glass.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. I do have like little kind
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: of ocd ish tendencies and certain things, not like that crazy.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I think we all do to a certain degree. But
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: the water is a hard one. Yeah, for sure.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Remind you to drink more water? Yes, also remind me please?
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you know, I'll text you, want to text
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: you whenever we're like, okay, it's three have we had
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: one bit water group chat?
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do that.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that will get us to drink water.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I haven't checked the last five group chots, and.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Like, let's make merch's kind of make an event out
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: of it, and like maybe we'll we'll drink water.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: So are you guys big on how do you communicate?
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: Are you big on group texts? Are you big on text?
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: Are you callers?
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Are you emailers? What is the vibe?
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: I think that that has evolved. I mean, our relationship
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: now compared to what it was in the beginning is
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: two completely different things in the best way. But I
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: think we text a lot. I need to get used
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: to like doing a fucking voice now and then and
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: then we're in person.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: I've told Megan, I was like, we have to talk
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: about the way we text each other, because we will text.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: If you were to read our text, you would think that,
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: like we are talking to each other off the verge.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: It is like a disclaimer to a disclaimer to a
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: disclaimer and then with like the most stoner stoner emojis
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: ever to like create peace, and then an invisible text
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: that's like nothing crazy in any way, Like we The
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: way we're taking care of each other overtext is not okay.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: You would think we're both like in a street rack
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: and like the rocking around, respective rocking around. Yeah, it's
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: we do techarry we do.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: You should get on the voice note trade and it's
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: kind of amazing, is it well?
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: And now it transribes.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, which is very helpful.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: I so helpful.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: Be I bet I will meet someone and then immediately
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: just go into voice notes.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: And some people aren't prepared for it or.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Down for it.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: But I'm I'm that's just who I am. You send away,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: I send it to my team group chat a lot.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: I send it to I don't text, you don't not really,
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, you do the voice if it's a quick okay,
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I prefer a voice note Okay, well.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: I you know what, will never listen back to an
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: episode I recorded Sophie the Enough when I do voice notes, listen,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I love to listen to.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Of course it's so bad.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: It's still so cringe. I don't know, but it's so cringe.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: But for some reason in that setting, I like it.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Me because I'm being authentic, because I'm like, oh, this
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: is going to my best friend.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Ally, I like it for story time.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: If you're tell one of your girlfriends something funny, or
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: if you're trying to say something to someone and you
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: really would like them to understand your tone.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I think a voice is crucial.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Wait, that's really it's not the tone because sometimes if
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: if I think to myself, Okay, I'm I need to
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: tell this person x y Z, but that might come
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: off bitchy or rude.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna send a voice note so they understand
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: that I'm calm and I'm not angry.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: It's just wow, try to deliver some info.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: I help you really like that, I will just send
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: it and say I'll just if there was anything, I'll
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: just bring it up tomorrow. And that's not the way
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: to do it, you know. I.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: Let's let's voice no, we're going to voice no it
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: we're going to each other to drink while Yes.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Do you think though this is a gen because I
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: think this. I think it's in my mind it's a
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: little bit inappropriate for me to voice no, because I
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: think that's putting more work on her. Like I'm like
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: you voice oute me and figure it out through the
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: voice note. But for me, I want to like give
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: you the most clear easy headlines headlines. For some reason,
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: if I was telling you a story and like something
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: crazy happened, I would totally I feel like.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: You think as an assistant, I would. I was a
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: big texter with headlines and bullet points to the point
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: deliver information. But if I was telling a story right
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: and or like describing or describing something or saying something
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: that I didn't want to put in writing, then I
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: would voice note.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, yes, I would you feel about getting a
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: voice no.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I think I've gotten like very very few part between.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: But like I remember, I think one time you had
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: a last minute in the clutch, like get me like
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: a bag or like a dress for some of them,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: and then you were like describing the thing to me,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: and I like needed right this was a one time thing,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: so it's like, oh my god, I sent voice. It
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: was one time and it was it was needed, and
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: you can.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: The other time because it was a Sunday and I
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: was going to a movie and it was raining, and
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: I was like, it's Sunday, it's raining. Someone allowed to
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: send your voice.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Note You're probably like, what do you mean Sunday night
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: and it's raining.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that mean.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Girls quote she goes, it's already raining.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: I would not be offended if you sat me.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Quite interesting. I'll think about it.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: It just takes a couple of and then you're gonna
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: get used to it and then you can't stop.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really fun.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: I'm very excited for that.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, wo have been some some challenges. I know, you
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: guys are super close and obviously have an amazing relationship,
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: which is so lovely to see it because I did this,
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: you did that fully. But what is maybe challenging work
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: being so intimately intimately close with your assistant.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Do you want to take it away? You want? You?
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I will, I'm your assistant, right. It is like, uh,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: any other important relationship that you have in your life.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: It's it is a work. One but it is you know,
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: a personal one too, and the nature of the job
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: is okay, well, life is content. Content is life, right,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: And like, I think one of the more difficult things
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: is knowing what are the boundaries, because you can't it's like, yes,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: we can say, you know, the entertainment world is fucking crazy.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Boundaries don't exist. Well, it's like, well they do, like
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: you do have to be somewhat respectful, you know, and
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: have parameters or else it's like, Hi, you're actually moving
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: in with me tomorrow and we're sleeping in the same
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: bed and you know, like it can get and traveling
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: together yes, and my trip and being with each other
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: twenty four to seven, and that means for so if
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: like she feels like she needs to be on the
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: entire time, you know, it's not how I probably feel,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: where it's more like we're just shooting the shit, like
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: what's up.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Which we are. I think I think a good way
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: to put parameters on it that we did maybe like
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: six months in is just like trying to have some
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: sort of hour that's nice, which was good because because
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: it's like then that's easier. It's like okay, within that, Yeah,
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: these are crazy. You know whatever, but let's like, I
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: think we started to be like, Okay, do we need
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: to be texting because we would be like I'd be
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: we're sending each other dresses, like we don't need to
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: be doing that, you know.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: I was it the type of thing where like just
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: every day in the morning, it was let's decide if
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: we're being in person today or not, because that already
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: is like stressing me out right now.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we were different, like you were just different. Are
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: in a different place yes, mentally, but physically were in
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: a different place. We were doing the like later start,
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: later end sort of thing, and then we started doing
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: earlier start but then didn't stop the later end. And
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: then we're like, wait, so did.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: We start working like in person like really a lot
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: of the days and then started doing more remote a
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: lot of the days.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: No, I kind of feel like we did less. We
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: did less of a person, and then like we weren't
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: finding as hard at the beginning.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Are you we were?
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: We were I'm meditating for an hour at the beginning,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: I was a different bitch, like quite literally, I was
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: just in a.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Completely different place. But we had a you know, we
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: had to like build foundation and structure and trust trust
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: before we can, you know, start doing the big mos.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: I think because these assistant jobs are so opposite of
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: a corporate environment, setting these little practices on the daily
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: to create some sort of boundary or some corporate ish
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: structure is always really helpful, but the lines get blurred.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: And I think at the end of.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: The day, uh, maybe voicing just being really communicative with
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: each other and and having that that open dynamic to say, hey,
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: this isn't really working for me, or this is working
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: for me and seems like you guys have figured that out.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: I think we could be better at the communicating.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Like we're just so we're so like it's such a
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: show together in a way. We're so like we will
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: get so excited about ideas and just run with stuff,
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: and like it is such a small team that I
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: feel like we're so like you fork in the moment
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: in doing things. But it's like sometimes we need to
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: visualize just pausing and being like, how do we feel
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: in our ways right now? Like let's just pause, because
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: that's like the foundation of everything. So then sometimes we
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: can get to the moment where we're like we've already
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: gone past it, and then we have to like work backwards.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: We need to prioritize check ins.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how are we questions?
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: So Jena and I used to do check ins once
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: a quarter and I would sit down with her and say, Okay,
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: tell me everything I'm doing wrong, and she would and
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: it was awesome and I would take that feedback and
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: then I would go on, you know, go on with
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: my day. But I was really receptive to feedback, which
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: I think is something that kept me in that job
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: for a long time.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: And I think any assistant needs.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: To be really receptive to feedback. Bosses also need to
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: be receptive to feedback. Lucky, I was very lucky. She
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: was the best boss ever. But there I you know,
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: I definitely didn't get everything all the time. So I
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: think growth as an assistant really comes from being like, hey,
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: just checking in, it's been six months, how am I doing?
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Are you happy?
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: And you know, vice versa. I think it's really healthy
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: to have those conversations.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Totally.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: I think we want to we want to do that definitely.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: And I also will say, like I this is you know,
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: like I'm three years out of school. This is maybe
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: I'm three years out of school, three years out of school,
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: like I'm the old thing as I wish I hired
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: an old assistant. It's like, but I'm learning a lot,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: like I think for assistance too. It's just I think
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: this is a general this is just like a life thing.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: But like it's very easy to be like, Okay, I
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: will like meet the things that meet me, you know,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: and like I will deal with the things that are
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: given me, and that's like how I'll proceed in my life.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: But also like you need to advocate for yourself and
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: you need to like there's a way to like really
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: make your life and job what you want it to be.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: And it's not always just like go in with the flow.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: And I think you learn that, yeah, through working, and
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: like I think there's so many ways that like you
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: can have such a more enriching experience if you take
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: the more charge you.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: Take totally, Totally, You're here for a long time, not
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: a good time. So you want to make sure that
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: you're both investing in each other and making sure that
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: both of you are happy in this relationship.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: But is like dating, Yeah, it is like dating.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I was I was thinking about coming when
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: I was like on the way here, and I was like, okay,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: I've been thinking a lot about my fiance. Why is this? Okay,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: what I'm about to talk about right now is like
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: in a similar vein. It's like another like you know,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: very interwoven relationships. It is like a relationship.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: And you you protect me in a lot of ways too.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: I actually wonder for you because you and Gen were
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: really close.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: In age, right, and two years apart, two years and
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: two days.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Okay, two years and two days, so like you don't
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: need to say we have no but we have an
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: age gap. And I'm just wondering from your perspective, like
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: how you think about that in the pairings and if
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: that does affect bonding, like we work so well. But
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: I also think that that is a dynamic, like you're
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: a protective I.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Think there can't be too giant of an age gap.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: I think because we were only two years two days,
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: we were very wildly similar. We also grew up with
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: all brothers, so that bonded us really early. But I
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: think you have to be sort of in the same moment.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: When I think about when I was twenty five I'm
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: now thirty three, I was real different, and I.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Don't I think now I'm finally a little bit more
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: of myself.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I agree, I'm thirty three too.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: I think it can't be that giant because you're just
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: in totally different places in your life.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, so when you know, these guys
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: are like seventy with this sexy secretary who's like twenty one,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: and it's like, bitch, what are you doing? But I.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: Totally no idea where you're going.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: I totally agree with you, Megan. I think it's hard
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: sometimes in the dynamic to know who needs to be
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: the one who sucks the quarterly meeting, who means to
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: be like the boss and you know, kind of like
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: laying down the structure and holding people accountable, and because
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: it's like it's kind of this this seesaw that you do.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: That's something I recommend to all candidates I place and
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: all of my clients.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: I give them advice, I mentor you've you've called me
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: a bunch.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: That is sort of what I am therefore to offer
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: those because I've learned from my own mistakes and just
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: from being an assistant, how necessary those.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Meetings are, right? Yeah, but yeah, how is how's working
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: with me?
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: Been?
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: And and what are some of the time I know
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: we've been in touch a lot, and what are some
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: of the things if you don't mind sharing that you've
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: leaned on me for.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: So many things, my knowledge, so many things, so many things.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Well also because we kind of it was like I
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: had worked with taught me, not I didn't find it
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: through you. So then it's like I was already working
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: for one of your clients and then was just like
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: shepherd to you. And that was like, yeah, the biggest
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: game changer and like life changer truly, and that was
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: like the beginning of me in New York and having yeah,
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: just like my life start here. And I think it's
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: really amazing because I think that with such an intense
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: one on one job and something so untraditional, like you
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: don't always have an HR, you don't always have this
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: like bigger structure. You don't have this like what is
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: the industry standard for planning a what for planning an
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: engagement party?
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: What is the for gifting? What is this thing? But
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: also like for extreme emotional care and like finesse and
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: being delicate and also like learning when to step up.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: And you're just so helpful in all those intricacies and
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: also just make me feel like it's okay and it's normal.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Like I think a lot of the times when we talk,
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: I kind of end up talking myself, like just having
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: you there makes me feel like it's okay. So are
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: like it's just you don't know what.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: I ask for advice and I say, this is totally normal,
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: You're fine, and.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: This is how I would handle X y Z.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: And I think half the time after when we hang up,
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: I say, just since set that meeting, have that conversation, yeah,
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: And You're always like okay, yeah, yeah, okay.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Which is really right, which is really interesting because I'm
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: asking soap with the industry's standard is like what the fuck?
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: Well, I think sometimes you're like if you've had like
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: a bad like I remember last summer calling my game
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: one day and I was just like, oh, this stuff is.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: It was in the pros. Yeah, oh my god. And
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: I was like smoking a cigarette with like these flip
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: flops on my roof. I remember just like, not tell
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: me that in circles and I was just like, you
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: know what, you know what, let's just do this. Let's
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: just you know, let's just post this.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: And it wasn't about my sois or anything.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: I was just like, I want her to feel taken
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: care of it.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: And I also you said, Sophia is having a really
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: tough day. What can I do to be the best
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: support system for her?
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: What would you recommend?
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: How do I help.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: Her in this moment?
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: And I think I said, just listen and get them
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: sous over there.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Like I think that it's good because you also remind
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: me like you do know the like the assistant knows
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: the relationship best, Like I actually do know what would
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: make you feel good, and it's it's not like it's
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: it's also not bad. I think of advice to assistance too.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: It's not a reflection on you when like your boss
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: is having a bad day, because I do want to
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: preempt those things.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Not personal. It's not to be able to separate that.
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: The emotional aspect of the job is really tough if
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: you take it personally.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Take it personally.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: Everyone we don't wake up No one wakes up happy
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: every single day. Imagine and then imagine having to have
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: someone who works for you come over when you're having
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: a tough moment or when you're going through something. It's
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: like there's a lot of pressure and Yeah, at the
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: end of the day, you have a great relationship and
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: you just have to be able to look at Sophia
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: and go, Okay, this is what's happening with her.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be right here.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna do my thing.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: She's gonna be fine.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: We're all fine.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, this is what she needs, this is
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: what I'm to do.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: It's help me handle it.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been dying to ask you what your assistant is,
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Like I would be It's like as if I was,
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: you know, going to do I mean, actually was gonna
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: do an American Idol reference and I haven't watched the
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: table television in seventy years, but like, it's I would
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: be scared to be your assistant because you run an
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: assistant agency and you know everything.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: My very first assistant, her name is Grace. She now
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: works for Clyde.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: She's a talent coordinator. She is a sweetie and a
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: half her high Grace.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: I found Grace through the Chapman University Career Center and
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: she started as my part time assistant while she was
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: still in college, and then when she graduated this past May,
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: we brought on full time in a different capacity because
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: and now I have a new assistant named Emily. Emily
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: is a precious, precious.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Sweet another sweetie.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: I met Emily.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: Because I did this big fire relief project in LA
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: right after everything happened in February.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: I saw that that was amazing, Thank you amazing.
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: And I posted online saying, I need some interns for
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: this project because at the time, my entire team was
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: in New York. Sweet Emily walked through the door at
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: the fire relief center, first one in every day, last
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: one to leave. When she met me, I was so
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: chaotic and I looked at her, I go, okay, you're in.
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: I hired her on the spot as an intern, and
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: then realized how damn good she was at doing all
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: things assistant. And I knew that Grace wanted to be
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: more on the client side, client facing, recruiting side, so
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: it was a very synthetic.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, Grace, you like doing more.
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: Of the stuff anyways, and I want Emily to be
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: my assistant.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Emily is just we love her, we adore her perfect well.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: I know, and the team expand she's in La.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I go back to La on Sunday.
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: There, Yeah, we're doing the split thing right now. But
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: my whole team for the most part, besides Patrick is
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: in LA It's great.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: We do in person twice a week. I'm very lucky.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: I have a great team around me.
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: But similar to you, I like doing a lot of
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: the admin stuff, so I don't have Emily touch my calendar.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: I do that myself.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Better at it, literally, who could be better at it?
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: I just I I need a picture of your calendar,
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: so color code. Will you flash it to me after this?
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know where my phone is, but I will.
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: Okay, there's still some things that I like to have
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: control over. I don't have her book any of my travel.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: Shout out to Angelo. Angelo does my travel, but I
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: also do. I'll book a flight, you know, right, not I.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: I like to book my flights too. And it's a
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: little bit was summed up on the calendar. But I
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: love how you're saying, like referring to your assistance, they're
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: so sweet. They're so sweet, and they're killers. There's no
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: way someone's working for you and it's not like secretly.
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: I have an amazing, amazing team, and I feel very lucky.
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: And I think because I was an assistant for so long,
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: there's nothing I'm going to ask these people to do
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: who work for me.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Work with me. Rather, that's crazy. I never asked Emily
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: for something to mind.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: You know, she's very good with my dogs.
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: I have two dogs now they're not here because my
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: Golden still a puppy and she would eat this micro
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: Also what and you.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Would you travel with two dogs? Damn damn girl.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Service animal right, two of them.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: But you go to the justify to service animals.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: I hope no one from Jets, because I go up
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: to that jet blue counter stoneface, they go, what service
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: do your dogs provide?
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: That go, you know, say my little bit and they
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: go proceed.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: They've never once been like that.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: It was my fault.
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: A couple of years ago, I was flying from l
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: A to New York around the holidays and my French bulldog.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: He's eight, was Tate.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: He's a sweet little man.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: Instead of his service animal vest I had him in
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: a Ralph Lauren dog sweater and the dud jerk at
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: the counter. He was in angry alf He goes, that's
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: not a service animal, and.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: He declined and lappy, so insane.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, it was my fault, fully, my fault, but
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: that's the one time I did get in trouble.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Was like, this is my service, the animal and it's
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: wearing a green preppy Ralph Lauren like a probably button
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: up collar.
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: No, t was in the American flag turtle neck navy sweater.
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: He yeah, he actually looked like a little grandpa and
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: he was like smarring, like okay, and they're.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, your dog, you're out.
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: That is some So yeah, but I don't think that
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: guy works at the blue counter anymore because I haven't
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: seen him.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a wrap.
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: Okay, So we're gonna do a little thing before I
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: released you, ladies.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: We are going to prank phone call.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: We're gonna play prank caller. Let I'm gonna close my eyes.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: But aren't they gonna know it's your voice? Your voice
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: is very well.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Probably when you guys are gonna talk. Okay, I have
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: seventeen Chris is in my phone. Should I just call
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: it from my number four one five area code? But
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: then is it even fun if we don't even know
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: who the fuck they are? You don't know who there's
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Look at how many.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: Guys name Chris, Oh my.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: God, Christian Christian Christian Christopher, Christopher c J c J.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Chris Chris, Chris Christ.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: You are very liberal with exchanging. Let's be fair.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: I give it six seven.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna protect. Let's let's start sixth seven.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: But let's prank.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: You know what's a really funny one. Oh oh, I'm
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: about to do this live. This is a treat Hey,
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: I'm here with your stuff. Who's this? This is Madison.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: I'm on the corner of State Street. You're here with
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: my stuff. I have no idea who you are?
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: Wait street, I remember State Street when I lived in Utah.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: I'm in California with your weed. I have your weed.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: Who am I? You're Chris? State Street? State Street? Wait?
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Where do you live? Who is this? This is Madison Kinsley.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know who that is.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you didn't ask me for a fifth of weed. No,
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: you don't smoke marijuana.
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, like occasionally, but yeah, I know that's the.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: You never purchased any kind of drug before. We doesn't
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: even drug. Really Okay, Well, I'm so sorry. I must
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: have the wrong number.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Well I'm Chris and this is my number.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, I'm in Utah, so it must be
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: another Chris okay, okay, Well, if you ever need weed,
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: I'll just I'll just text you my number. I'm the plug. Bye.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: I have I have zero idea who that is? Why
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: did he just let someone like you? Do you.
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: Like he was down l O L that You're like, yeah,
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: some drugs, you smoke weed.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, I've done that before and been like I'm on
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: the corner of stage like State Street with your like
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: can you come outside and like run down to the
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: car and get it that it's a hypothetic. It's a
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: hypothetical story. I'm not actually on the corner. I just
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: pretend to be a drug dealer and it's so funny.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: But it's way funny. Like no, I've had people be like,
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: oh ship like maybe my friend, but that's usually like
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: at night.
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: Why was he into your boy?
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: Like he literally wanted to Did he not just try
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: to hit on this? Guys are disgusting discussing he has
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: no idea what I look like? No? Nothing? Yeah. Also,
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: who has a blocked number called them and says yes
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: I buy drugs sometimes and answers Okay, well that was
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: really fun and thrilling.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: I have I have one I have won assistant thing
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: one less assistant. Go, let's go. I could just you
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: had asked my biggest fuck up. You know what I'm
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: about to say, I just want pants. I don't know laundry.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. Okay, So to this day, like has
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: trauma over this.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: I liked to died everything. I died everything. It was
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: I died everything.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: It really was not like that big of a deal. Also,
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: I was having her do an emergency laundry load when
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: I had a flight in about four hours. Pulling it
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: was we were pulling it all nighter. It was frantic,
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: it was chaos. It was crazy, but soph to this
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: day because like I don't ask you to ever like
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: help with that. I guess I.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: Just like to do You're so diligent with laundry. And
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: also it was unhew.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: Did you die everything?
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: New black sweatpants, new black sweatpants, And I just like
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: put everything in there, like I just was not thinking.
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: And then I remember when you checked it, like you
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: were not being mean in any way. You opened and
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: you're like, yeah, this wasn't right. It was I am
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: going to disappear. I'm gonna disappear.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: That I didn't remember that. You're like, you know what
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about like, no, I don't implication of.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: Like I know how to do my laundry. I know
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: how to do my laundry.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: Laundry, but you don't. Also, she doesn't do her own laundry.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: It's kind of all.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: I don't have a laundry. I do it at the washingful.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: I don't do it. A washing fold does it in Chinatown.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: Previous to that, I did my own laundry.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: So if I never thought.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: I do when I'm home, I do when I'm home.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: That's the most offensive thing is if you think so
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: if I can't do launch, which I know you can
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: do laundry. I know that.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to say that.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: That's you've got that off.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: I bring it up to that out.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: Okay, guys, lastly before we go, because it's Friday, what
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: advice would you give someone who's a trying to get
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: their foot in the door in media or entertainment and
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: maybe other Sofia, someone who is just graduating and trying
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: to get their first job figure out what they want.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: To do career wise. So start with Sophia number one.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: If you want to get your foot in the door
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: in the entertainment industry, I think going and being an
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: assistant is actually a pretty good way to do it,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: and you should go to Clyde Staffing Agency and submit
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: your application. I'm not even drove that because I think
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: you know, whereas back in the day, I would say
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: post on your socials posts like crazy shit, the game
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: now is like really like you can't really rig it anymore.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: It is so saturated, It is so like crazy that
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, going the assistant route and like me,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: people and figuring out what you like and what you
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: want to do in the entertainment space is actually really smart.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: I love that answer.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't tell her to say anything.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: She did, Oh she did.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: Clyde is where you need to go.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: Also, just don't be intimidated if you want to do
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: something in entertainment and don't have any experience in that.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: Maybe like I studied history in English. That's like what
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: I was super passionate about.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: I start nursing.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah I hate blood so.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: But like there's exposure therapy. Yeah, exposure therapy.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: And I know because your path too, and like doing
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: the celebrity styling and all these things, there is a
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: domino effect that will happen and like if you have
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: critical thinking skills and are a kind person and a
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: social person like you will find your people. And it
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: can be in any arena. Like I didn't go to
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: film school. I didn't you know, study communications like or
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: anything like that, but you can still that's really.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: Helpful for people to hear because there are so many
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: schools believe it or not, that's still don't have film
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: programs and kids who want who are curious about the
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: entertainment industry but are worried because they maybe didn't major
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: in film or no background or no internship.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: You can still make it. Your twenties are the time
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: to figure it out. And I didn't know what I
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: was doing until my late later.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: Twenties, so there's always time, there's always Networking is really important.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think saying yes to everything like just
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: try don't say no, like just be okay with like
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: feeling uncomfortable and embarrassed and just try it.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: Try it. You don't have to try it off their paths.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: It does not have to be linear.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: I mean I kind of did a little Morgan Stanley.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: Podcast ever be over that, Like I you know, I
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: talked to New York, like you don't you have come
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: out of n y U, no shout out. Wow, you're
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: the best so much yay.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: Thank you everyone who's watching.
• 1:04:04
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• 1:04:09
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• 1:04:11
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• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Bye bye guys,