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[#6] Naked Awareness Spontaneously Arising (Mar 2026) · Lama Lena Teachings

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  SPEAKER_01: You are live.
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  SPEAKER_03: Good morning, everyone.
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  SPEAKER_03: Today is the public continuation of the Guru Rinpoche teaching that we've been working on.
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  SPEAKER_03: Translators, I believe we may be on or about Chapter 9.
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  SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
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  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
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  SPEAKER_02: Dorji Sempagarab Dorjidam,
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  SPEAKER_02: Shere Singi Pardushin Labdi,
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  SPEAKER_02: Deidam Havzantata Tusam Chi,
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  SPEAKER_02: Zogchen Jupe Lama La Sol Vahadip,
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  SPEAKER_02: Urgen Pema Junila Sol Vahadip,
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  SPEAKER_02: Durjichang Chichalo Narodang,
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  SPEAKER_02: Marpa Milagompo Tsatsapa,
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  SPEAKER_02: Na Pupadang Palden Drupad,
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  SPEAKER_02: Kargyulama Namla Soluwa De, Ochen Lama Namla Soluwa De,
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  SPEAKER_02: Druchen Lama Namla Soluwa
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  SPEAKER_03: Kaginwari Lama Namla, Solo Ahadib.
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  SPEAKER_03: Shakya Lama Namla, Solo Ahadib.
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  SPEAKER_02: Nyandu Dangyundrun Lama Namla,
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  SPEAKER_03: Solo Ahadib.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_03: Previous chapter,
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  SPEAKER_03: and the one before it,
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  SPEAKER_03: and the one before that, was introducing you to your own true nature.
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  SPEAKER_03: Dharmakaya, Sambhogakaya, Nirmanakaya, Chukulonku and Truku.
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  SPEAKER_03: Since it is empty and not created anywhere, it is the Dharmakaya.
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  SPEAKER_03: Since its luminous clarity represents the inherent transparent radiance
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  SPEAKER_03: of emptiness, it is the Sambhogakaya.
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  SPEAKER_03: Since its arising is nowhere obstructed or interrupted, it is the nirmanakaya.
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  SPEAKER_03: These three trichea being complete and fully present as one is its very essence.
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  SPEAKER_03: We're talking about you.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, your totality.
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  SPEAKER_03: One says sometimes totality of self, but it's not particularly self-ish.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because it's everything as well.
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  SPEAKER_03: Because it does not fall into the dichotomy of self and other.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's the duality.
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  SPEAKER_03: Original oops that you keep falling for.
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  SPEAKER_03: Again and again in every single moment.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's not enough to understand
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  SPEAKER_03: all the many definitions of dharmakaya, sambhogakaya, nirmanakaya.
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  SPEAKER_03: You gotta recognize yourself
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  SPEAKER_02: as that.
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  SPEAKER_03: You are.
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  SPEAKER_03: Ultimately, empty.
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  SPEAKER_03: No thing.
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  SPEAKER_03: Can't even find a speck of matter in there once you get down to the quantum level.
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  SPEAKER_03: And as far as a self goes, at the best you're in ecology.
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  SPEAKER_03: A particular clump of critters
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  SPEAKER_03: all trying to survive in a single form.
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  SPEAKER_03: There's you and the bugs in your gut and the bugs on your skin,
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  SPEAKER_03: the bugs in your mouth and the bugs in your hair.
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  SPEAKER_03: And you'd be surprised how many of your choices
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  SPEAKER_03: and motivations are hormonally driven and your bugs mess with your hormones.
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  SPEAKER_03: There is a very interesting parasite That spends part of its life cycle in mice
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  SPEAKER_03: and part of its life cycle in cats.
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  SPEAKER_03: When a mouse suffers from this parasite, it makes it brave.
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  SPEAKER_03: Therefore, more likely to be eaten by a cat, less cautious and fearful.
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  SPEAKER_03: When eaten by a cat, the critter goes into the second part of its life cycle.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's not to the advantage of the mouse brain.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's to the advantage of the parasite to be brave in that way.
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  SPEAKER_03: Mice aren't supposed to be brave.
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  SPEAKER_03: They're at the bottom of the food chain.
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  SPEAKER_03: Everything eats mice.
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  SPEAKER_03: They're supposed to be timid.
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  SPEAKER_03: A brave mouse don't live very long because everything eats mice.
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  SPEAKER_03: How many of your motivations
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  SPEAKER_02: are really not
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  SPEAKER_03: yours?
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  SPEAKER_03: Your bugs come up with them.
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  SPEAKER_03: Karmically, how does this affect you?
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  SPEAKER_03: You don't all die at the same time.
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  SPEAKER_03: Some of them will live on and digest your body in the grave.
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  SPEAKER_03: Some of them will die when you do.
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  SPEAKER_03: How's this going to work?
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  SPEAKER_03: You don't all, you the clump you, doesn't all reincarnate in one place.
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  SPEAKER_03: You fragment in the bardo.
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  SPEAKER_03: All there is is a pattern of continuity.
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  SPEAKER_03: That pattern of continuity that has been occurring since your infancy,
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  SPEAKER_03: as far as you can remember,
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  SPEAKER_03: but has actually been occurring from beginning in this time.
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  SPEAKER_03: Each piece creates the next piece, creates the next piece.
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  SPEAKER_03: Only...
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  SPEAKER_03: All sorts of beings and stuff,
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  SPEAKER_03: each with their own agenda,
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  SPEAKER_03: participate for a while and then go participate in something else for a while.
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  SPEAKER_03: There's nobody in there.
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  SPEAKER_03: You are empty of independent existence.
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  SPEAKER_03: You and your beasties need to notice this.
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  SPEAKER_03: Dharmakaya, nature of mind.
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  SPEAKER_03: And yet, you are lucid.
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  SPEAKER_03: The symbol of lucidity is luminosity.
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  SPEAKER_03: Lucidity means you are able to think.
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  SPEAKER_03: You can't think anything you want to think.
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  SPEAKER_03: You think what you're going to think, but you can still do it.
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  SPEAKER_03: You are able to move.
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  SPEAKER_03: You are able to perform deeds, make ripples, create causes, receive effects.
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  SPEAKER_03: Lucidity.
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  SPEAKER_03: This is the clear light nature of the Dharmakaya.
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  SPEAKER_03: The luminosity of the Dharmakaya arising as the Sambhogakaya.
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  SPEAKER_03: The central pivot.
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  SPEAKER_03: The awareness form.
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  SPEAKER_03: And because it is lucid,
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  SPEAKER_03: that means it can think and move and do, it will think and move and do.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that thinking and moving and doing forms the nirmanakaya and they're not separate.
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  SPEAKER_03: Three aspects of the svabhavakaya.
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  SPEAKER_03: As one.
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  SPEAKER_03: And you be all that.
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  SPEAKER_03: Y'all.
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  SPEAKER_03: Because each one of you is a y'all.
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  SPEAKER_03: So y'all be all that.
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  SPEAKER_03: When you are introduced in this way,
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  SPEAKER_03: through this exceedingly powerful method for entering into the practice,
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  SPEAKER_03: You discover directly that your own immediate self-awareness is just this
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  SPEAKER_03: and nothing else.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you, y'all.
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  SPEAKER_03: Sitting there thinking you're John or Mary
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  SPEAKER_03: or whoever the hell you think you are today.
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  SPEAKER_03: You aren't.
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  SPEAKER_03: Just passing through.
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  SPEAKER_03: All made up, gonna come apart again.
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  SPEAKER_02: You're bigger than you think you are.
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  SPEAKER_03: Your limitations are illusions.
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  SPEAKER_03: As long as you believe that you independently exist as something
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  SPEAKER_03: which you will define as male, female,
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  SPEAKER_03: non-binary,
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  SPEAKER_03: European,
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  SPEAKER_03: American,
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  SPEAKER_03: South American,
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  SPEAKER_03: of this descent,
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  SPEAKER_03: of that descent,
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  SPEAKER_03: of this religion,
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  SPEAKER_03: of that religion, being brave, being cowardly, being persnickety, having OCD.
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  SPEAKER_03: All these little definitions you're going to have,
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  SPEAKER_03: which create this set of limits that you live within.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it's completely unnecessary.
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  SPEAKER_03: You see, enlightenment is It's a natural state.
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  SPEAKER_03: If it was something that had to be built or created, it would be lost again.
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  SPEAKER_03: It is the baseline.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's actually taking a great deal of effort for you to avoid it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Resistance is futile.
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  SPEAKER_03: Enlightenment is inevitable.
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  SPEAKER_03: In the fourth time,
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  SPEAKER_03: So you might as well give up trying to not be enlightened and just relax and let go
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  SPEAKER_03: of your hopes and fears.
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  SPEAKER_03: This constantly chasing what you want and running away
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  SPEAKER_03: from what you don't want is what prolongs the illusion of duality for you.
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  SPEAKER_03: Just don't bother.
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  SPEAKER_03: You don't have to do anything.
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  SPEAKER_03: You just have to stop hitting yourself over the head.
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  SPEAKER_03: Then it'll stop hurting, okay?
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  SPEAKER_03: Too simple for you?
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  SPEAKER_03: I'll give you some complex words.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that your own immediate self-awareness is just this and nothing else
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  SPEAKER_03: when you stop Poken at it.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that it has an inherent self-clarity which is entirely unmade up.
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  SPEAKER_03: Unfabricated, uncreated, unmade up.
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  SPEAKER_03: How can you then speak of not understanding the nature of mind
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  SPEAKER_03: when there is no thing there To either be understood or do the understanding of it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Just let go.
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  SPEAKER_03: Moreover, since you are meditating without finding anything there to meditate upon,
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  SPEAKER_03: how can you say that you are not able to meditate properly?
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  SPEAKER_03: There is no meditation.
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  SPEAKER_03: Just let go and relax for a few minutes.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like this.
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  SPEAKER_03: Don't make anything of it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Don't strive to get anything out of it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Don't work hard.
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  SPEAKER_03: Just relax.
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  SPEAKER_03: If you notice,
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  SPEAKER_03: thoughts of hope and fear arising, let them do that.
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  SPEAKER_03: No squishing, no grabbing.
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  SPEAKER_03: Leave it be.
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  SPEAKER_03: Let it do what it's going to do.
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  SPEAKER_03: Eventually, the display completes itself.
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  SPEAKER_03: That means the habit patterns run down.
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  SPEAKER_03: And unless you wind him up again, there you are.
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  SPEAKER_03: I should probably try to stop making this so simple.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's going to scare you all.
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  SPEAKER_03: Since your own manifest intrinsic awareness is just this, exactly this,
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  SPEAKER_03: How can you say that you cannot find your own mind?
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  SPEAKER_03: The mind is just that which is thinking.
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  SPEAKER_03: And yet,
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  SPEAKER_03: although you have searched for the thinker,
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  SPEAKER_03: How can you say you do not find him when you are constantly listening?
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  SPEAKER_03: You have such a limited idea of placeness.
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  SPEAKER_03: And when not finding the thinker in a place having sufficient placeness for you
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  SPEAKER_03: to call it a place,
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  SPEAKER_03: which is separate from another place, this place, not that place, without that,
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  SPEAKER_03: You think you can't find them.
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  SPEAKER_03: And yet that isn't exactly it.
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  SPEAKER_03: With respect to this, nowhere does there exist the one who is the cause of mental activity.
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  SPEAKER_01: The thinker.
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  SPEAKER_03: Since the thinker is not a place or a thing,
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  SPEAKER_03: who are you?
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  SPEAKER_03: In the practice of Rangrit, one gazes
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  SPEAKER_03: into one's own eyes without using a mirror.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's metaphorically speaking.
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  SPEAKER_03: To see if there's anyone there.
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  SPEAKER_03: And keeps at it until you're absolutely sure that there's nobody home.
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  SPEAKER_03: Since there is nowhere the cause of mental activity,
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  SPEAKER_03: You cannot find a thinker of the thoughts,
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  SPEAKER_03: and yet, since mental activity exists, you cannot deny its such activity as arising.
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  SPEAKER_03: Since merely allowing thoughts to settle into their own condition without trying
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  SPEAKER_03: to modify them in any way is sufficient,
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay, my text just disappeared.
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  SPEAKER_03: Since leaving thoughts in their natural state, look, catch one.
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  SPEAKER_03: One thought.
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  SPEAKER_03: Look at them wiggle.
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  SPEAKER_03: Even if you think
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  SPEAKER_03: of my coffee mug,
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  SPEAKER_03: you don't just think of my coffee mug.
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  SPEAKER_03: And now can you maybe figure out what the hell that just did?
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  SPEAKER_03: The thought of the coffee mug.
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  SPEAKER_03: You're not thinking, it's not one single thought.
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  SPEAKER_03: You're having a lot of thoughts about the coffee mug.
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  SPEAKER_03: Each single thought,
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  SPEAKER_03: if you examine them carefully while they're moving,
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  SPEAKER_03: since they're always moving, that's any time,
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  SPEAKER_03: What you find is that no individual one has duration.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's obvious to see that no individual one is matter, has substance.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, because I can think of like a shelf here, but it's not going to hold my coffee cup.
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  SPEAKER_03: It has no substance.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's just a thought.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thoughts by themselves obviously have no substance.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thoughts by themselves are obviously transparent and As in, imagine a pumpkin between my hands.
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  SPEAKER_03: You see?
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  SPEAKER_03: You can see right through it, no matter how hard you think it there.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_03: What had it done?
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  SPEAKER_01: It wandered off to a different text that was in Japanese for a little bit.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Why?
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know why.
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  SPEAKER_01: My iPad's getting long in
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  SPEAKER_03: the tooth.
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  SPEAKER_03: Life is like that.
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  SPEAKER_03: Let me find my place.
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  SPEAKER_03: There.
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  SPEAKER_03: So when you get upset about something,
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  SPEAKER_03: what this is talking about here,
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  SPEAKER_03: let's say you have a fight with a person close to you
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  SPEAKER_03: because usually one doesn't bother to fight with strangers unless you're nuts.
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  SPEAKER_03: I know people who fight with strangers.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay, never mind that.
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  SPEAKER_03: You will more likely have a serious fight that disturbs you with someone close to you.
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  SPEAKER_03: So you're fighting with a person close to you.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then, you know, they're gone.
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  SPEAKER_03: They're not in the room with you.
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  SPEAKER_03: You're all by yourself and you're...
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  SPEAKER_03: These are your thoughts.
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  SPEAKER_03: Now what is upsetting you
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  SPEAKER_03: Are the thoughts, the story you're telling yourself about the circumstance.
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  SPEAKER_03: If you experience desire rather than aversion,
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  SPEAKER_03: say you're looking through a catalog of many juicy things that you might want.
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  SPEAKER_03: And you want this thing and that thing and the other thing.
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  SPEAKER_03: Those are also thoughts.
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  SPEAKER_03: Now, if you fight with those thoughts, And you try to make them go away.
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  SPEAKER_03: They're going to fight you back.
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  SPEAKER_03: When you push on something, you give it energy.
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  SPEAKER_03: When you grab something and pull it towards you in want, you also give it energy.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's the same energy.
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  SPEAKER_03: The energy is just energy.
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  SPEAKER_03: Push adds energy, pull adds energy.
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  SPEAKER_03: So the trick with those thoughts that are making you have feelings about something
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  SPEAKER_03: Is to let go.
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  SPEAKER_03: And stop the push-pull shit that you're doing with them all the time.
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  SPEAKER_03: I shouldn't be thinking this.
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  SPEAKER_03: This is not good Dharma thoughts.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm thinking of sticking a knife in that bastard's gut.
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  SPEAKER_03: And a good Dharma student doesn't think these things.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I shouldn't think these things.
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  SPEAKER_03: And how terrible person I am for thinking these things.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know how it can go.
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  SPEAKER_03: And if kittens get involved, it's even worse.
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  SPEAKER_03: So...
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  SPEAKER_03: Once you see the thoughts for what they are,
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  SPEAKER_03: in the mind for what it is,
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  SPEAKER_03: and the method of doing this is called sitting on the cushion and practicing,
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  SPEAKER_03: and you just leave them like that.
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  SPEAKER_03: You don't push and you don't pull.
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  SPEAKER_03: Since merely allowing thoughts to settle into their own condition without trying
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  SPEAKER_03: to modify them in any way is sufficient,
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  SPEAKER_03: how can you say that they upset you when you're unable to remain in a calm state?
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  SPEAKER_03: Do you see that?
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  SPEAKER_03: Next time something bugs you,
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  SPEAKER_03: there's something that comes up that'll bug you.
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  SPEAKER_03: Or there's something that comes up that you want.
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  SPEAKER_03: One of those two is going to happen probably in the next hour.
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  SPEAKER_03: Coffee.
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  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't mean...
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  SPEAKER_03: To force yourself to avoid acting on thoughts.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's a forced condition.
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  SPEAKER_03: If it itches, scratch it within reason.
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  SPEAKER_03: All the extremes that one can go to in attempting to do this,
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  SPEAKER_03: it's a matter of leaving them be Without forcing yourself to either follow them
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  SPEAKER_03: or refrain from following them,
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  SPEAKER_03: but allowing everything to flow in a completely natural state.
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  SPEAKER_03: Since allowing thoughts to be just as they are,
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  SPEAKER_03: without trying to do anything whatsoever about them is sufficient,
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  SPEAKER_03: How can you say that you're not able to do anything with regard to them,
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  SPEAKER_03: that they plague you?
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  SPEAKER_03: They don't even exist.
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  SPEAKER_03: Something to exist, it needs to occupy time and space.
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  SPEAKER_03: Otherwise, it doesn't exist in the time-space continuum.
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  SPEAKER_03: That means it needs a size,
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  SPEAKER_03: and it needs to exist for a certain number of moments, even a billionth of a second.
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  SPEAKER_03: Some little particles only exist that long.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's still allowed they have an existence during that period.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thoughts don't.
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  SPEAKER_03: No substance, no matter.
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  SPEAKER_03: And no duration.
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  SPEAKER_03: Don't believe me on this, please.
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  SPEAKER_03: I want you to sit down and watch.
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  SPEAKER_03: Don't think about watching.
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  SPEAKER_03: Don't talk to yourself about your thoughts while thinking.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's not watching.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's just entangling yourself in your own threads.
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  SPEAKER_03: What you want to do is sit in a very relaxed way with your channels in alignment.
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  SPEAKER_03: Zogchen gaze will help, which means the eyes are not point-focused.
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  SPEAKER_03: They're open awareness, open focus.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then watch them go.
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  SPEAKER_03: Without talking to yourself about watching them go or what they're doing while they do that.
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  SPEAKER_03: However, if that naturally arises as your thoughts, don't squish it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Just metaphorically take a step back and watch it do that too.
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  SPEAKER_03: Hopefully somebody understood these instructions.
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  SPEAKER_03: Because it's real easy as soon as you stop making it complicated.
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  SPEAKER_03: If you want a complexity,
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  SPEAKER_03: go have an interesting Pali affair with several people who have not done that
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  SPEAKER_03: before.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_03: And you can have some complexity, but keep it out of your Dharma practice.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_03: Since clarity,
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_03: awareness,
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_03: and emptiness are inseparable and are spontaneously self-perfected,
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_03: how can you say that nothing is accomplished by your practice?
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_03: Think about this line.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_03: Clarity, transparency, it means.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_03: Awareness.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_03: Awareness is what's there when you stop thinking about it, but it's still awake.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_03: You are awareness.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_03: You are aware.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_03: Probably.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_03: Emptiness.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_03: All of these are inseparable.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_03: Emptiness.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_03: And inherently there,
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_03: spontaneously self-perfected means you don't have to do anything about it.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_03: Just be like that.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_03: It's like, how much effort do you go to every day to hold the sky up?
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_03: Seriously.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_03: Seriously.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_03: I have encountered occasional mythologies where the priest is responsible for doing
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_03: that and has to stack symbolic stones in places to hold the sky up.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I guess that keeps him in work and he has a job, stacking stones to hold the sky up.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_03: Not a bad job.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_03: However,
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe you don't have to do that.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_03: Since it's naturally like this, how can you say you haven't accomplished it?
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_03: It's not an accomplishment.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_03: Stop trying.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_03: Since intrinsic awareness is self-originated and spontaneously self-perfected
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_03: without any antecedent causes or conditions,
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_03: Intrinsic awareness,
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_03: that natural state of being a wide awake aware, even in your dreams.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_03: Intrinsic awareness.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_03: Since it does not require being created,
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_03: acquired,
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_03: or accomplished,
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_03: self-originated,
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_03: And it is naturally,
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_03: spontaneously,
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_03: right of its own side,
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_03: completely grown up and perfect,
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_03: without anything causing it or any condition required.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_03: Since that is the case, how can you say that you're unable to accomplish it by your own efforts?
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_03: Well, probably not.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_03: You're trying so hard and it's sitting there on your left shoulder going,
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_03: but you're trying so hard you'll never see it.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_03: Relax.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_03: Let go of all the crap and the embroidery and the theories and the philosophies and
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_03: the instructions and everything else, including your hopes and fears.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_03: And just leave it alone and sit there.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_03: Allow the display to complete itself.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it gets a little bumpy while it does that.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_03: Meh.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_03: So what?
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_03: It's going to get bumpy whether you're doing that or not.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_03: Bumpy be the nature of the display.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_03: You know, like Samsara and it hurts.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_03: Meh.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_03: You just sit there.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_03: Doesn't even take all that long to complete itself.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_03: Less than a lifespan.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_03: In case you're starting late.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_03: Since the arising of discursive thoughts
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_03: and their being liberated occurs simultaneously,
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_03: How can you say that you are unable to apply an antidote to them?
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_03: People sit and try to meditate.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_03: And they think,
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_03: because there are some forms of meditation that are like this,
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_03: not Treksha,
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_03: but in some forms of Shinne, resting in stillness, one refrains from thinking.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, you can do that.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_03: It's doable.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_03: You get into a trance state, you know, Om Shanti.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_03: And a lot of people who are trained in some spiritual practices,
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_03: but not in Dzogchen, think that's what you're supposed to get.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you see, the problem with that is it wears off.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_03: Inevitably.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_03: One time, Saraha,
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_03: and he was married to a young Dakini,
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_03: and one day it was summertime,
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_03: and they're pretty high altitude,
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_03: but they had some cattle, yaks or whatever they had.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, it was the time of summer, spring,
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_03: summer, so there's lots of milk, and they're also growing vegetables, and it's warm.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_03: So he says to his wife one day, His Dakini.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_03: He says, oh, I'm going to sit down and meditate for a while.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_03: Why don't we have some Raita for lunch from cow's milk yogurt and daikon?
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_03: This is very specified in the story.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know why, but maybe for some generation in the future, that will be important.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_03: So you always keep the little bits in because you just never know when it's going
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_03: to be a key someday in some other culture.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_03: So he goes and he sits down to meditate and she makes the lunch and she goes
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_03: to check on him and he's tranced out.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_03: Om Shanti.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_03: So she gets pretty hungry so she eats her share.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_03: And evening time comes and she goes to check on him.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_03: He's still tranced out.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_03: So she probably eats the rest of the Raida.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_03: That's not in the story, but I would assume she's a practical woman.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, this goes on for 12 years.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_03: Now, since the story was written by men,
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_03: it does not say whether she dusted him or put a dust cloth over him.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_03: My guess would be she dusted him on a fairly regular basis.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_03: And went about her life and lived her life normally while he was tranced out in the back room.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_03: Twelve years later, he wakes up.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, that was a nice session.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_03: That was a really good session.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_03: Wife of mine, where is that raita?
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_03: Raita is a salad made of great yogurt and you great yogurt, listen to me.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_03: You great daikon, the big long white radish that looks like a dildo.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_03: And then you mix it with yogurt.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_03: It's called raita.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_03: And you season it with salt and pepper and things.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe a little coriander.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_03: And she says, husband, it's winter now.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_03: You've been asleep for 12 years or you've been tranced out for 12 years.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_03: There is no daikon in winter.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_03: The ground's frozen.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_03: And the cows don't give milk in winter.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_03: So no raita right now.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_03: Sorry.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_03: He says, oh my, 12 years, really?
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_03: You know, he kind of checks his hair length and says, yeah, plausible.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_03: He says, well,
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_03: I guess I better,
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_03: should just as,
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_03: might as well go on further up the mountain to a hermitage and meditate there.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_03: His wife gives him the hairy eyeball,
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_03: looks him and says,
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_03: husband, you've been sitting there in Trance State, in Sheenae, for 12 years.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_03: And you're still thinking about daikon and yogurt.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_03: Makes you think it's going to be any different higher up on the mountain.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_03: And that was Sarah's first realization that there was something beyond sine.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_03: He's thinking, oh, she's got a point there.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_03: So all of you who've been trained to have a nice sine,
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_03: That's very relaxing and it's excellent for your blood pressure.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_03: But if a car backfires or they start shooting out front because the gang is upset
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_03: with the other gang,
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_03: it's going to interrupt you and you will start thinking again.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_03: And that is inevitable.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_03: First, Bardo is rather like Shiné,
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_03: where you sit too dumb, and you can't sit too dumb forever.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, there's a story about a guy who was so good at Shiné that he sat too dumb
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_03: after death,
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_03: and they buried him,
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_03: and they dug him up like 200 years later because they were going to put a road
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_03: through there or something, and the guy's still alive.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_03: He wakes up from too dumb.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_03: Now medical science is able to, you know, do stuff.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_03: And a friend of mine got yanked back out of Tutam.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_03: I was so fucking pissed off at his students.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_03: He actually went into Tutam.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_03: He was doing really well.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_03: They called the ambulance.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_03: If you ever do that to me, I'm fucking going to haunt you.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_03: The point I'm making is that that utter peace of mind, stillness, you cannae keep it.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_03: It wears off its nyam and experience.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_03: Very nice one.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_03: Like orgasms, no reason not to have some occasionally.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_03: But you can't keep them.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_03: You can't keep shenay any better than you can keep an orgasm.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_03: They come and go.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_03: So look for something
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_03: that doesn't come and go because true enlightenment is not a come and go.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_03: You get to keep it,
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_03: which means it can't have a beginning because everything with a beginning has
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_03: an end.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_03: So if enlightenment began at one point of time for you,
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_03: It would end at another point of time.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_03: It wouldn't be the real one.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_03: As you see, the real one
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_03: is already there.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_03: Right there in the fourth time that pervades all the entire time and space continuum
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_03: that holds it in its hands like a mother holds her child.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_03: This is what makes it so easy Because you don't have to make one.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_03: So since every single thought you think arises and vanishes simultaneously,
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_03: the analogy is writing with your finger on water.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_03: It arises and vanishes in the same moment,
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_03: no mark is left, like the footprints of a bird across the sky.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_03: Traditional analogies.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_03: Where are last Tuesday's thoughts?
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_03: Did they bother you on Tuesday?
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_03: Do you even remember?
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_03: Since they arise and are liberated simultaneously,
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_03: how can you say that you are unable to get rid of them?
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_03: Get rid of what?
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_03: It's gone.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_03: It's gone.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_03: This in the three words of Garab Dorji refers to SOPA.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_03: SOPA is the state where all your thoughts,
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_03: obviously without exception,
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_03: arise and vanish of their own accord,
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_03: having neither substance and duration,
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_03: and so they don't fool you into thinking they're real.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_03: Since your own immediate awareness is just this,
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_03: how can you say that you do not know anything with regard to it?
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_03: That was the end of chapter nine.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_03: Pithy, are there any questions?
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_01: One question is,
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_01: where does the thinker go when one is knocked down,
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_01: I guess, knocked out or in deep sleep?
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_03: Jenny, we're at the end of number nine, starting on number 10 next, but we're doing questions.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_03: Good question.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_03: Where does the thinker, it's the same place the thinker goes between the thoughts.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_03: Well, look,
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_03: I can't tell you that because it does not fit into words in this
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_03: or any other language I know.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_03: In between the thoughts, where's the thinker?
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_03: Go look there.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_01: How can ADHD help me in my practice?
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_03: Since there are several types of ADHD, it would depend on the type.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_03: If it is one of the hyper-focused types,
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_03: where if you have an interest in something,
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_03: you go hyper-focus,
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_03: and you can't focus on something you're not interested in,
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_03: It's up to you to develop a strong interest in Dharma.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_03: And then you'll focus on it.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_03: If you have the kind that is constantly multitasking,
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_03: should be easy for you to learn to meditate while thinking.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_03: Which actually is not a multitasking, but it sort of feels like it at first.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_03: So I would say those are two ways.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_03: It really just depends on which way your ADD goes.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_03: Hyperfocus with subject of interest will allow you to explore the Dharma thoroughly
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_03: in all its directions and minute until some part of it catches even more
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_03: of your interest and then you can delve deeper there.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_03: This will be useful in finding out what your path is.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_03: Scatterfocus type where It's impossible to focus on one thing at a time.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_03: It requires several to keep the other tracks busy or they'll fight.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_03: In Dzogchen,
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_03: what you would do is pay attention to the breathing and make sure you've got
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_03: the right body position breathing pattern while paying attention to what
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_03: the thoughts do without talking to yourself about that.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_03: While paying attention to the little drifting fish eyes,
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_03: which will stop drifting in shine and in treksha.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_03: You can be thinking in treksha and they still won't drift if you've got the rest of it right.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_03: So pick these three things.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_03: If you want to add in a fourth, I have you breathing and physical.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_03: I gave you watching the thoughts arise and vanish.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_03: See if you can get a glimpse of what's in between them,
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_03: behind them, where they be happening at the same time.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_03: See if that works for the scattergun type.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_03: I've got hyperfocus autism, so I'm not speaking from inside on that.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_01: Can you give advice for how to deal with the conceptual mind wondering, am I doing it right?
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_03: Those are thoughts.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_03: Treat them like any other thought.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_03: Watch them arise.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_03: Watch them dissolve in the same moment they arose.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_03: And then there's the next one.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_03: Which might be, I want a piece of chocolate.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_03: And then there's the next one.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_03: Which wonders if it would be right or wrong to have a piece of chocolate.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_03: And then there's the next one, but this is all happening within a tenth of a second.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_03: You just watch him do that.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_03: It don't matter none what you're thinking.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_01: Keep your eye on where.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_01: Next question.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_01: What if someone allows the natural flow of thoughts and it leads to actions
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_01: with negative results?
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_03: Ah, that was Rahula's problem.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_03: Allow the natural thoughts to flow while sitting on your cushions.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_03: You
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_03: see,
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_03: if it is still the point where your thoughts might lead to negative actions,
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_03: then it's still time to stay on the cushion.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_03: At some point, it will be obvious that that can't happen.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_03: Now, I don't
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_02: mean it quite like that.
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_03: Better words.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_03: At some point, they are so obviously unreal that there's no reason for them to lead to actions.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_03: Get there while on the cushion.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_03: Then I'll give you the next piece.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_03: If we run out, it's okay.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_03: I'll go on to a bit more, but
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_01: How does one cultivate a natural flow of action?
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_01: When I practice natural awareness, I feel more free but passive.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_01: When I don't practice, I feel controlled or controlling and unfree.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_03: You can't.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_03: It has to do you.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_03: You can't do it.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_03: You're still too much in the middle there.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_03: Watch the thoughts
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_03: arise and vanish
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_03: and get really good at that
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_03: before permitting actions to participate on the cushion.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_03: The thoughts
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_03: need to be seen much more clearly for what they are
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_03: before
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_03: one permits
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_03: the flow to govern activities.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_03: Stay within the rubber buggy bumpers until you're a better driver.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_03: That means the six parameters.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_03: That means the awareness from the four turning minds of exactly how karma works
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_03: and following along with that.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_03: Stay on the cushion.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_03: There are exercises, practices, retreats for when it is time to step off the cushion.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_03: They're called rushens.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_03: Different rushens will help with that.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_03: But...
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_03: As long as you're getting this dichotomy, stay on the cushion.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_03: Don't try to find the flow.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_03: It will find you when it's ready.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_03: It arises from sopa.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_03: And sopa itself arises from gom.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_03: And gom itself arises from tawa.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_03: So if you need a methodology...
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_03: Which is not a big deal in Dzogchen, but some people like them.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_03: Tawa on the cushion until you're really sure.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_03: It's really clear.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_03: You can see Tawa any time you want.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_03: You can even see Tawa on the cushion while thinking.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_03: Now, Gom.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_03: That's the beginning of your exercises off the cushion.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_03: Gum will cause SOPA.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_03: You can't do SOPA.
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_03: So stop trying.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_03: It won't work.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_03: Do gum really, really well.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_01: What is a good practice to let out trapped grief and have a really good needed cry?
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 54:19
  SPEAKER_03: Lilith, you've got an answer on that one.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_00: This is one that you told me that worked very well,
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_00: and that was to dance to whatever
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_01: music felt good.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, movement and dance, dancing to whatever music I liked, moving freely.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_00: Moving with the music,
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_00: into the music,
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_00: moving into the spaces in the body and allowing emotions to arise
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_00: and express themselves within that movement.
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_00: And that was very powerful and continues to be very helpful.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, good answer.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_03: See, I don't know everything.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_03: Even though I told her that originally, I can't remember it now.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_01: Let's see if I had one.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_03: If not, I'll go on.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_01: There was one more,
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_01: somebody asking about how many times should one practice Tawa during the day and get
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_01: a look at George or whatever it is?
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, billions.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_03: If you're doing GOM.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_03: Five or six if you're doing Seated.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_03: Five or six seated sessions a day.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_03: They only have to be five minutes long, if that, three minutes long.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_03: It's more,
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_03: make a long one in morning and evening,
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_03: but during the work day, grab five minutes here, grab five minutes there.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_03: And in the other spot.
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_03: Coffee break, lunch, pee break.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_03: All of these are potential sessions of two or three minutes.
• 56:12
  SPEAKER_03: Frequency is more important than duration at this point,
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_03: although it is good to make a nice 10 to 20 minute,
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_03: depending on your abilities, twice a day, morning and evening.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_03: On the cushion, in the good position.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_03: You can actually, on most toilets, use the Maitreya positions.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_03: In case that's the only bit of privacy you can get.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_03: If you've got toddlers,
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_03: you're just going to have to learn to meditate in any position
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_03: while doing other things.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_03: It's just the nature of the beast.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_03: If you've got toddlers,
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_03: the prescribed practice is Keep your eye on Tawa the way you keep your eye on
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_03: the kid.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_03: Because,
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_03: from somewhere about six or seven months until about three years,
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_03: they seem to be spending most of their time trying to off themselves by drinking,
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_03: eating weird substances and getting their heads caught in weird places.
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_03: So you really have this eagle eye on the toddler and you always know where the kid is.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_03: Unless you really trust the person you left them with.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_03: And even then, you've kind of got an awareness in the back of your mind.
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_03: Treat Towa like that.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_03: Was that our last question?
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_03: Or do we have more?
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_01: One more question is,
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_01: could you please talk a little bit about the phrase, putting Rigpa in one's eyes?
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_03: I've never heard that phrase before.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_03: So I have no idea what that means.
• 58:09
  SPEAKER_03: I apologize.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_03: If that's a traditional dharmic phrase, quote, tell me where the text is.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_03: I would like to see what was meant by that in that place.
• 58:26
  SPEAKER_03: Sounds like somebody's being poetic.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_03: And I like Dharma poetry.
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_03: Any more?
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's it for this section.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_03: We'll start chapter 10, but we may go over it again next time a little bit.
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_03: Just because not everybody comes to these sessions in order.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_03: Eh, wander in, wander out.
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_03: It is certain that the nature of mind is empty and without any foundation whatsoever.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_03: Is it not?
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_03: You should have looked by now and noticed this.
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_03: Your own mind is insubstantial like the empty sky.
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_03: You should look at your own mind and see whether it is like that or not.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_03: Don't take my bleeding word for it.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_03: Look for yourself.
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_03: I could be trying to sell you a bridge.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_03: Look for yourself.
• 59:47
  SPEAKER_03: Being without any view that decisively decides that it is empty.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_03: Do you understand that?
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_03: A view, a point of view, a belief system, don't even.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_03: Once you get it in words, it's distorted.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_03: It is certain that self-originated primal awareness has been clear,
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_03: transparent and luminous from the very beginning.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_03: Like the heart of the sun, which is self-originated.
• 1:00:39
  SPEAKER_03: Let's get this into a more modern analogy.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_03: Like the existence of light, energy, and matter in the universe.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_03: It is without both cause.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_03: Something that happened before that that caused it.
• 1:01:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I know, they're always making up theories, but never mind.
• 1:01:11
  SPEAKER_03: It really is without a cause.
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_03: Light, energy, Movement, energy is movement.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_03: Light is just the fastest movement we know of.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_03: Heat, light.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_03: Movement.
• 1:01:28
  SPEAKER_03: Matter.
• 1:01:30
  SPEAKER_03: Quantum physics.
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_03: There's no thingies in there that are actually doing the moving.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_03: So the existence, non-existence of matter and energy
• 1:01:47
  SPEAKER_03: Is itself self-originated, uncaused, always been there in one form or another.
• 1:01:55
  SPEAKER_02: It might have been real compressed and hot.
• 1:01:59
  SPEAKER_03: It might have been real spread out and cold.
• 1:02:04
  SPEAKER_03: It might be going back and forth like taffy.
• 1:02:08
  SPEAKER_03: This we don't know.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_03: But nothing before.
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_03: Nothing after except the same thing.
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_03: I suspect it might be a rerun.
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_03: That was a joke, a Tibetan joke.
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_03: Look at your own mind.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_03: See whether it is like that or not.
• 1:02:46
  SPEAKER_03: Uncaused.
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_03: Your quirks can have causes.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_03: Quirks come and go.
• 1:02:54
  SPEAKER_03: Having a mind to have quirks in,
• 1:03:01
  SPEAKER_03: that has no cause.
• 1:03:03
  SPEAKER_03: Mind has always been there.
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_03: It hasn't always been yours, but it's always been there.
• 1:03:09
  SPEAKER_03: You are just a particular clump of quirks.
• 1:03:18
  SPEAKER_03: It is certain that this primal awareness,
• 1:03:25
  SPEAKER_03: which is one's intrinsic awareness, is unceasing.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_03: Like the main channel of a river that flows unceasingly,
• 1:03:41
  SPEAKER_03: you should look at your own mind and see whether it is like that or not.
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_03: You guys getting homework out of this chapter.
• 1:03:51
  SPEAKER_03: Do it if you want the next chapter to have its proper effect.
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_03: It is certain that the diversity of movements arising our mind
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_03: are not apprehendable
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_03: by memories.
• 1:04:12
  SPEAKER_01: You can't remember everything you think.
• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_03: You can't remember every little willow with a wisp of feeling drifting by you,
• 1:04:23
  SPEAKER_03: desire and aversion.
• 1:04:25
  SPEAKER_03: Too many.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_03: Not possible.
• 1:04:31
  SPEAKER_03: They are like insubstantial breezes moving through the atmosphere.
• 1:04:35
  SPEAKER_03: You can't catch those either.
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_03: But look at your own mind and see if this is true or not.
• 1:04:49
  SPEAKER_03: It is certain that whatever appearances occur,
• 1:04:52
  SPEAKER_03: your display, all of them are self-manifested arising by themselves.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_03: You didn't make them.
• 1:05:00
  SPEAKER_03: Like images in a mirror being self-manifestations that simply appear.
• 1:05:06
  SPEAKER_03: You should look at your own mind and see whether or not it is like this.
• 1:05:13
  SPEAKER_03: It is certain that all the diverse characters of things are liberated into their own condition.
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_03: Like clouds in the atmosphere that arise out of atmospheric conditions
• 1:05:27
  SPEAKER_03: and dissolve back into them being self-liberated,
• 1:05:33
  SPEAKER_03: look at your own mind and see whether it is like this or not.
• 1:05:39
  SPEAKER_03: So this chapter, 10, Is a homework chapter.
• 1:05:48
  SPEAKER_03: Look at your own mind.
• 1:05:52
  SPEAKER_03: Is it empty?
• 1:05:53
  SPEAKER_03: Does it have a foundation?
• 1:05:54
  SPEAKER_03: Does it require support?
• 1:05:57
  SPEAKER_03: Does it require a body?
• 1:05:59
  SPEAKER_03: Is it still there when you're dreaming?
• 1:06:02
  SPEAKER_03: Who were you before you were born?
• 1:06:08
  SPEAKER_03: Is it solid?
• 1:06:09
  SPEAKER_03: Is it in a place?
• 1:06:11
  SPEAKER_03: Is it to the left or the right,
• 1:06:12
  SPEAKER_03: above or below, inside or outside, in front or behind,
• 1:06:20
  SPEAKER_03: in your head or your elbow?
• 1:06:24
  SPEAKER_03: Where are your thoughts happening?
• 1:06:31
  SPEAKER_03: Is there a place?
• 1:06:35
  SPEAKER_03: And if so, is that place made of substance?
• 1:06:51
  SPEAKER_03: Be very careful
• 1:06:55
  SPEAKER_03: of a belief system about it is like this and like that.
• 1:07:00
  SPEAKER_03: Those are simply analogies.
• 1:07:04
  SPEAKER_03: It is empty like the sky.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_03: There's this lovely debate that's been going on in Kargu Line.
• 1:07:11
  SPEAKER_03: For, you know, a few centuries, maybe in a year or two.
• 1:07:16
  SPEAKER_03: As to whether the mind is like the sky or the mind is the sky.
• 1:07:25
  SPEAKER_03: I've always enjoyed that debate.
• 1:07:29
  SPEAKER_03: So you'll come back to me next time after having looked and checked to see
• 1:07:36
  SPEAKER_03: if your mind is empty like the sky
• 1:07:41
  SPEAKER_03: Or if it is the sky.
• 1:07:43
  SPEAKER_03: Remember the word in Tibetan for sky is space.
• 1:07:47
  SPEAKER_03: So that includes all space in the ultimate universe as sky.
• 1:07:54
  SPEAKER_03: Not just like a blue dome.
• 1:07:58
  SPEAKER_03: Naungka.
• 1:08:03
  SPEAKER_03: Like Naungkai Norbu.
• 1:08:05
  SPEAKER_03: Pronounced that way, it would mean the sky's jewel.
• 1:08:09
  SPEAKER_03: The jewel that arises in the sky.
• 1:08:13
  SPEAKER_03: It's a name.
• 1:08:19
  SPEAKER_03: It's certain that it has always been there.
• 1:08:23
  SPEAKER_03: This awareness, this awakeness, which is the nature of your mind, does it come and go?
• 1:08:31
  SPEAKER_03: You go look for yourself.
• 1:08:34
  SPEAKER_03: Go on, get blind, drunk, unconscious, and see if there was still a mind there.
• 1:08:39
  SPEAKER_03: Regardless of how stupid.
• 1:08:41
  SPEAKER_03: Do this in a safe place.
• 1:08:44
  SPEAKER_03: And not if it's dangerous for you.
• 1:08:47
  SPEAKER_03: Okay?
• 1:08:50
  SPEAKER_03: Safely.
• 1:08:53
  SPEAKER_03: See if coffee, wine,
• 1:08:59
  SPEAKER_03: or other substances change the nature of your mind or simply what it's going
• 1:09:06
  SPEAKER_03: to be thinking.
• 1:09:10
  SPEAKER_03: Do not take things you are unfamiliar with or things that are bad for you physically.
• 1:09:18
  SPEAKER_03: Be sensible.
• 1:09:20
  SPEAKER_03: Come on, I'm counting on you guys to have common sense.
• 1:09:25
  SPEAKER_03: That's a Tibetan thing.
• 1:09:27
  SPEAKER_03: A Tibetan without common sense does not survive adolescence.
• 1:09:31
  SPEAKER_03: It's too frigging cold up there.
• 1:09:34
  SPEAKER_03: So a Tibetan teacher will simply presume you have the common sense to manage
• 1:09:38
  SPEAKER_03: to survive their teachings.
• 1:09:44
  SPEAKER_03: Something that frequently goes without saying, causing Westerners not to survive all that well.
• 1:09:56
  SPEAKER_03: No guardrails.
• 1:09:58
  SPEAKER_03: You are responsible for falling in the hole if you fall in the hole.
• 1:10:05
  SPEAKER_03: I will try to tell you where the holes are, but there's a lot of holes.
• 1:10:10
  SPEAKER_03: So you keep your own eyes open.
• 1:10:14
  SPEAKER_03: A hole is a symbol of a meditative accident where you get really bad lung
• 1:10:19
  SPEAKER_03: and go flippy or something.
• 1:10:26
  SPEAKER_03: Where did your mind come from?
• 1:10:30
  SPEAKER_03: The mind you have in this very moment.
• 1:10:32
  SPEAKER_03: I don't mean what was the traumatic cause of it having this particular flavor.
• 1:10:39
  SPEAKER_03: Go past the flavor.
• 1:10:41
  SPEAKER_03: Past the flavor which is made of thoughts and feelings.
• 1:10:46
  SPEAKER_03: Mind itself.
• 1:10:48
  SPEAKER_03: When did it start?
• 1:10:50
  SPEAKER_03: Does it end?
• 1:10:53
  SPEAKER_03: Go look and see for yourself.
• 1:11:02
  SPEAKER_03: If you and I decided to go camping on an island,
• 1:11:09
  SPEAKER_03: And we got near and we're picking up supplies at the local place.
• 1:11:12
  SPEAKER_03: We got a boat to go to the island.
• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_03: And people around there start saying, you know, there's tigers on that island.
• 1:11:19
  SPEAKER_03: You sure you want to go camp out on that island?
• 1:11:21
  SPEAKER_03: They got tigers over there.
• 1:11:23
  SPEAKER_03: And other people say, no, no, no, that was 50 years ago.
• 1:11:27
  SPEAKER_03: The tigers are extinct on that island now.
• 1:11:29
  SPEAKER_03: There's no tigers anymore.
• 1:11:32
  SPEAKER_03: And you go on the island with me because I tell you now, now they're extinct.
• 1:11:36
  SPEAKER_03: It's safe.
• 1:11:38
  SPEAKER_03: And you got to listen to your teacher.
• 1:11:40
  SPEAKER_03: And we're in our little tents at night and you hear from behind your tent.
• 1:11:51
  SPEAKER_03: That's actually a leopard noise, not a tiger noise.
• 1:11:54
  SPEAKER_03: But anyway, something like that and the sound of a thick stick breaking from weight on it.
• 1:12:01
  SPEAKER_03: How will you sleep in there?
• 1:12:05
  SPEAKER_03: Now, if we went to the island in the early morning,
• 1:12:09
  SPEAKER_03: and you yourself,
• 1:12:11
  SPEAKER_03: it's not a very big island,
• 1:12:13
  SPEAKER_03: searched the entire island under every bush,
• 1:12:16
  SPEAKER_03: behind every tree,
• 1:12:18
  SPEAKER_03: in every crevice,
• 1:12:20
  SPEAKER_03: and couldn't even find any tiger shit,
• 1:12:25
  SPEAKER_03: so that you were sure by a scat,
• 1:12:27
  SPEAKER_03: so you were sure by your own experience that there were no tigers on the island,
• 1:12:35
  SPEAKER_03: You'd be sleeping a hell of a lot better.
• 1:12:38
  SPEAKER_03: That's the analogy of this chapter.
• 1:12:43
  SPEAKER_03: Go look.
• 1:12:46
  SPEAKER_03: Go look and look again.
• 1:12:49
  SPEAKER_03: Does the thought chain stop?
• 1:12:54
  SPEAKER_03: Does it start again?
• 1:12:58
  SPEAKER_03: Are you in control of it?
• 1:13:00
  SPEAKER_03: Is it in control of you?
• 1:13:04
  SPEAKER_03: Go look.
• 1:13:08
  SPEAKER_03: Do you remember what was going on there exactly 27 minutes ago?
• 1:13:16
  SPEAKER_02: Go look.
• 1:13:20
  SPEAKER_03: It will be easier to see clearly if you sit with your channels in alignment.
• 1:13:29
  SPEAKER_03: Maitreya position in chairs.
• 1:13:36
  SPEAKER_03: Eyes straight ahead.
• 1:13:41
  SPEAKER_03: Lose the focus.
• 1:13:46
  SPEAKER_03: Lips slightly apart.
• 1:13:52
  SPEAKER_03: Tongue natural.
• 1:14:01
  SPEAKER_03: You know, there's some practice where you put, you curl it backwards.
• 1:14:07
  SPEAKER_03: Not like that.
• 1:14:09
  SPEAKER_03: In this one, it's natural.
• 1:14:13
  SPEAKER_03: In-breath, slightly shorter than the out-breath.
• 1:14:20
  SPEAKER_03: Slight resting pause at the end of each out-breath.
• 1:14:31
  SPEAKER_03: If feeling agitated,
• 1:14:34
  SPEAKER_03: take a deep breath in through your nose and blow it out slowly
• 1:14:37
  SPEAKER_03: through your mouth like this.
• 1:14:50
  SPEAKER_03: Just settles the chi in your channels a little bit, makes it easier to see.
• 1:14:55
  SPEAKER_03: And then go look.
• 1:15:00
  SPEAKER_03: Are there any questions?
• 1:15:04
  SPEAKER_03: Let's see.
• 1:15:08
  SPEAKER_01: I find thoughts relatively light.
• 1:15:11
  SPEAKER_01: What drives me forward is aversion towards negative sensations.
• 1:15:17
  SPEAKER_01: How can I work with that?
• 1:15:20
  SPEAKER_01: I practice Zogchin mostly.
• 1:15:24
  SPEAKER_03: So this is thoughts.
• 1:15:33
  SPEAKER_03: I don't like this.
• 1:15:35
  SPEAKER_03: It hurts is a thought.
• 1:15:40
  SPEAKER_03: When your knee acts up or your thumb, you know, there's always something.
• 1:15:50
  SPEAKER_03: So when your body is acting up and you are having an unpleasant sensation,
• 1:15:57
  SPEAKER_03: it is unpleasant because you are calling it such.
• 1:16:04
  SPEAKER_03: You are thinking about it.
• 1:16:10
  SPEAKER_03: It is just a sensation in between the thoughts.
• 1:16:19
  SPEAKER_03: Also,
• 1:16:22
  SPEAKER_03: I have met once a person who found that eating canned asparagus wrapped up in
• 1:16:32
  SPEAKER_03: a slice of Wonder Bread with Miracle Whip on it was pleasurable.
• 1:16:42
  SPEAKER_03: Really?
• 1:16:42
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 1:16:51
  SPEAKER_03: I think I'd rather stick my foot in the fire.
• 1:16:55
  SPEAKER_03: But then I have an intense aversion to canned asparagus.
• 1:17:03
  SPEAKER_03: What you find pleasurable and what another person finds displeasurable will vary.
• 1:17:15
  SPEAKER_03: So take the thing you find as a
• 1:17:20
  SPEAKER_03: Displeasurable sensation, an itch, a pain.
• 1:17:29
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, I got an itch in my nose.
• 1:17:33
  SPEAKER_03: Working with that.
• 1:17:37
  SPEAKER_03: The story.
• 1:17:41
  SPEAKER_03: That it is named itch.
• 1:17:45
  SPEAKER_03: That it is in a particular place in my body.
• 1:18:00
  SPEAKER_03: It's just a story.
• 1:18:02
  SPEAKER_03: Those are thoughts.
• 1:18:04
  SPEAKER_03: So when I allow the thoughts to do the thing thoughts do,
• 1:18:08
  SPEAKER_03: which is arise and vanish,
• 1:18:11
  SPEAKER_03: leaving no residue,
• 1:18:14
  SPEAKER_03: I still have a sensation in my nose,
• 1:18:18
  SPEAKER_03: but it is neither an itch nor not an itch, nor is it pleasant nor unpleasant.
• 1:18:24
  SPEAKER_03: It's just a sensation.
• 1:18:26
  SPEAKER_03: So there's no urge to do anything about it.
• 1:18:30
  SPEAKER_03: Now, if I replace and decide to think of it as an itch, of course I'll want to scratch it.
• 1:18:37
  SPEAKER_03: Whereas if I think of it as pain, I'll probably want to rub it.
• 1:18:44
  SPEAKER_03: Whereas if I think of it as warmth,
• 1:18:51
  SPEAKER_03: the warmth of my breath, then there's nothing I want to do about it.
• 1:18:58
  SPEAKER_03: It's all the same sensation.
• 1:19:06
  SPEAKER_03: Try with small ones, not big ones.
• 1:19:13
  SPEAKER_03: Don't try this with a broken leg.
• 1:19:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yet.
• 1:19:20
  SPEAKER_03: What you really want to do is get good at it with itches.
• 1:19:27
  SPEAKER_03: Life contains itches.
• 1:19:30
  SPEAKER_03: With the minor pains of existence.
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  SPEAKER_03: The little stuff, the twos and threes.
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  SPEAKER_03: And try the fours.
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  SPEAKER_03: Don't push it too fast.
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  SPEAKER_03: Get it up to fives and sixes.
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  SPEAKER_03: See how high you can take it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Don't go do yourself some damage to get an unpleasant sensation.
• 1:20:02
  SPEAKER_03: Life will do shit anyway.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, and getting old happens.
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  SPEAKER_03: You just sort of work with it.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's the catastrophizing and the labeling which are done with thoughts.
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  SPEAKER_03: You pretty much work with it like working with emotions.
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  SPEAKER_03: Although I do want to do a retreat that goes in between working with emotions
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  SPEAKER_03: and working with perceptions called working with sensations.
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  SPEAKER_03: That will probably be an online.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that will be working with things like this.
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  SPEAKER_03: Pain and itches.
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  SPEAKER_03: So start with the little ones.
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  SPEAKER_03: Strip them naked of the thoughts that call them hurt.
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  SPEAKER_03: Or itch.
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  SPEAKER_03: And all the thoughts about what you might do about it after Checking
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  SPEAKER_03: to make sure your foot isn't on fire.
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  SPEAKER_03: This is important.
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  SPEAKER_03: Common sense.
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  SPEAKER_03: If it's a cold winter day and you got your feet propped up in front of the fire
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  SPEAKER_03: with your socks sort of steaming because they're wet on your feet and
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  SPEAKER_03: then your foot starts hurting, don't just work with it meditatively.
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  SPEAKER_03: Go put the foot out your sock first.
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  SPEAKER_03: We've seen this happen.
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  SPEAKER_03: In the winter days.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, put out the fire on your sock.
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  SPEAKER_03: Make sure your foot is not badly burned.
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  SPEAKER_03: Take care of it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Then you can work with the sensation.
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  SPEAKER_03: Does that make some sense?
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  SPEAKER_03: Do not abandon common sense in this practice.
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  SPEAKER_03: Other questions?
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  SPEAKER_01: Wood should work For intense fear of the realization of what falls in the relaxation into Tawa.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_03: I highly recommend it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Go get some instructions on it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: The question is, appearances are starting to feel like thoughts, but with color.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is that to be expected?
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  SPEAKER_03: That's a nyam.
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  SPEAKER_03: Keyword, starting to, means it's finite in time.
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  SPEAKER_03: However, good signpost, whatever you're doing, keep doing it, you're doing it right.
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  SPEAKER_03: That was the correct signpost for the road you're on.
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  SPEAKER_03: Next question.
• 1:23:04
  SPEAKER_01: Can you explain what means taking refuge on a secret level?
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  SPEAKER_01: Is that related to this?
• 1:23:13
  SPEAKER_03: That is not related.
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  SPEAKER_03: Please save that for the next Q&A.
• 1:23:18
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:23:19
  SPEAKER_03: We're going to stick with the topic of this text today.
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  SPEAKER_01: And let me just double check, but I think we've gone through.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's see what we have.
• 1:23:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's more general questions, but none related to the topic.
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  SPEAKER_03: I want this text for today.
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  SPEAKER_03: Then I think we are complete for today.
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  SPEAKER_03: We've done a couple of chapters.
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  SPEAKER_03: I want you to do the practice.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's not just listening to the pretty poetry here.
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  SPEAKER_03: These are teaching texts.
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  SPEAKER_03: They are designed to be eaten slowly, given in bites and practiced along with.
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  SPEAKER_03: Sometimes in optimal situations, you're all in the same place on a mountainside.
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  SPEAKER_03: The teacher gives a text and the students practice it intensively for a day or two.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then the teacher gives the next part,
• 1:24:22
  SPEAKER_03: goes over that part with them and then gives the next part.
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  SPEAKER_03: However,
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  SPEAKER_03: those circumstances used to be much more common in the old days than they are now,
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  SPEAKER_03: where everybody's hanging out on the mountainside.
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  SPEAKER_03: Now we have online.
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  SPEAKER_03: And we also have the busyness that goes with maintaining a Western lifestyle,
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  SPEAKER_03: which was not the case then.
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  SPEAKER_03: So because of that, we'll give you time to practice it rather than a two-day intensive.
• 1:24:58
  SPEAKER_03: See, in the old days, yogis didn't go to town and work.
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  SPEAKER_03: They'd occasionally go do a begging round,
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  SPEAKER_03: get some grain when they were out of it,
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  SPEAKER_03: and live up in the caves and do their practice.
• 1:25:12
  SPEAKER_03: But we didn't have jobs, houses.
• 1:25:18
  SPEAKER_03: Cars, families, responsibilities.
• 1:25:23
  SPEAKER_03: So things were done a bit differently.
• 1:25:27
  SPEAKER_03: We're having to adapt awfully fast since time has gone and speeded up for the Kali Yoga.
• 1:25:36
  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, I will see you all next time.
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  SPEAKER_03: Ge-wa-di-he.
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  SPEAKER_03: May all beings recognize their own intrinsic freedom.
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  SPEAKER_03: We are complete.