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- 0:06Hey everyone, welcome back to the Nadia Chapman Show. It's a pleasure to be
- 0:10sitting here this evening.
- 0:12It's been over a month, I think, since I recorded a podcast.
- 0:16So I'm very happy to be here. And today's topic has to do with the fact that,
- 0:22gosh, so many people that I talk with is feeling unmotivated,
- 0:28has low energy, is a little bit foggy,
- 0:32in, you know, taking the next step towards what they want, or maybe they've
- 0:37given up, or maybe they're plattering.
- 0:39Whatever you are in your life, in whatever you're trying to pursue,
- 0:43whether you are an athlete or a parent, a student,
- 0:48no matter how old you are, how young you are, this podcast is for you because
- 0:52we all love to feel highly motivated.
- 0:56And sometimes we just feel kind of blah. Yeah.
- 1:00If you know what I mean. And what is motivation anyway?
- 1:04Where does it come from? How do we keep it? How do we get it back?
- 1:08This episode is going to be like a little kick in the butt or a gentle nudge,
- 1:13however you want to see it, to get you feeling really energetic and inspired again.
- 1:19So listen up. All right. I'm going to start with asking you a question.
- 1:25Surprise, surprise. You know me as a coach. I love asking questions.
- 1:29So have you ever woken up one morning feeling like you could just conquer the freaking world?
- 1:36All right. Like you're going to exercise.
- 1:40You're going to go, you're going to start eating better.
- 1:42You're going to organize your whole house, start a business,
- 1:46finally work on that one project that you've been talking about for 10 years,
- 1:50maybe drink more water, become a superhuman, a better human.
- 1:55And it's funny because as I'm saying this, I picture in my head,
- 1:59January 1st, January 1st, we feel very, very motivated on January 1st,
- 2:05then comes January 2nd and 3rd and 4th.
- 2:08And you know, motivation kind of disappears, right?
- 2:11So we all we've all been there, we all have a big plan and something that gets
- 2:16us excited and inspired and practically makes us want to be a new person.
- 2:22And then three days later, you're sitting on the couch, scrolling Instagram,
- 2:28watching reels for an hour, eating something straight out of the container.
- 2:33Wondering where the hell that motivated person went.
- 2:37Like, seriously, where did she go? Where did he go?
- 2:41And as you know, these episodes and any coaching sessions with me anyway,
- 2:46or whenever you ask yourself questions and you try to self-improve yourself,
- 2:51do personal growth, it always has to come with judgment.
- 2:55So don't listen to this podcast thinking, oh my gosh, I am just a lazy bitch.
- 3:01Because yeah, you might be right now, but you know, putting yourself down and
- 3:05beating yourself up and judging yourself for your actions is only going to make
- 3:10things work. So always approach things with curiosity.
- 3:15Yes, curiosity over judgment. So instead of saying, you know.
- 3:20I am very unmotivated. I suck at everything. I can never keep up with reaching a goal.
- 3:25Just ask yourself, why am I losing motivation? Just become curious,
- 3:29curious about your behavior, your thoughts, and your action. All right? Capisce?
- 3:35So let's start at the beginning here. What is motivation? What is it?
- 3:40Where does it come from? Why does it disappear? And most importantly, how do we get it back?
- 3:47And I promise you, I'm not going to say you need to get up at 4am and take an
- 3:51ice bath and juice some celery and kale and write, you know,
- 3:5550 affirmations and become a millionaire before breakfast.
- 3:58Because frankly, that sounds unrealistic and exhausting.
- 4:04But let's start at the very beginning. Let's understand something.
- 4:09Motivation isn't some magical woohoo personality trait that certain people are born with.
- 4:18All right. So, you know, you probably have people around you,
- 4:21people that seem to have endless energy and they're always working out and building
- 4:25something new and learning something and chasing goals.
- 4:29And you look at them and you think, wow, I wish I had that motivation. Well, here's the thing.
- 4:36They're not necessarily more motivated than you.
- 4:40They simply have better systems. Yes, they have better systems.
- 4:45They have stronger habits or maybe a clearer reason for doing what they do.
- 4:51So let's talk about the science of motivation for a second.
- 4:56Your brain has a chemical messenger called the dopamine, and I'm sure you heard about it.
- 5:02And often people call it the pleasure chemical. Dopamine is heavily involved
- 5:07in motivation and learning and the anticipation of a reward, right?
- 5:12It's part of what makes your brain say, ah, you know, hey, that might be worth pursuing. So let's go.
- 5:19So here's something very interesting. Your brain doesn't just respond to getting the reward.
- 5:26It also responds to the possibility of getting one.
- 5:30Think about booking a vacation for a second. So sometimes the anticipation of
- 5:37the vacation is almost as exciting as the vacation itself, right?
- 5:41You're looking at hotels, you're planning, you're booking tickets.
- 5:46You're looking at restaurants online, you've got maybe pictures you save of
- 5:50the beach where you're going.
- 5:51So you're imagining yourself out there and your brain is already getting pretty
- 5:57darn excited about what's coming up. And that's the part of the motivational
- 6:02system at work right there.
- 6:04But here's the catch. Your brain is also constantly evaluating and scanning
- 6:10and looking around whether something is worth the effort or not.
- 6:15And if a goal feels too big and unachievable or way too far down the road,
- 6:22or maybe uncertain or way too exhausting to go after, your motivation can take a nosedive.
- 6:30And not because you are lazy, but because your brain is kind of,
- 6:34you know, waiting the effort against the expected reward. So which brings me
- 6:39to something I see all the time in my coaching.
- 6:42Why does motivation disappear?
- 6:45And there's a few reasons for that. There's a few reasons why we lose motivation.
- 6:49And I want you to see if you can recognize yourself in any of these.
- 6:53The number one is the excitement wears off. So when we start something new,
- 6:59we get all excited and we get what we call the honeymoon phase.
- 7:03You know, oh, I got a new gym membership. It's super exciting.
- 7:07Or I've got this crazy business idea and I feel really good about it.
- 7:11I got myself a journal and a new agenda, and I'm going to keep track of my goals
- 7:16and what I eat or whatever it is that you're getting into, you know.
- 7:20But then eventually, life happens, things get in the way, and reality kicks
- 7:25in, like we say. So the gym actually asks of you to go to the gym.
- 7:32To get up early and go to the gym.
- 7:34The business will ask of you to do all the boring paperwork and not just put
- 7:40all the cute stuff on Instagram. And the beautiful planner, well,
- 7:43now it's October, and the last thing that you wrote in it was...
- 7:47From January. And when the novelty disappears, which is normal,
- 7:52we sometimes see it as, oh, there's a loss of motivation. But really,
- 7:57we've just entered the least exciting part of the process.
- 8:02And if you keep going, and if you keep pursuing, the motivation will go back up.
- 8:08The number two reason where we lose motivation is we are overwhelmed.
- 8:14And this is a big one. Sometimes we don't lack the motivation at all.
- 8:18We have just too many things competing for our attention.
- 8:22We have work and family and responsibilities and bills to pay and appointments
- 8:26and very big expectations and maybe 5,000 more things running through our head.
- 8:33And then someone tells you, hey, just stay motivated.
- 8:37OK, well, thank you, Cheryl. Why?
- 8:39I didn't think about that. Really? Like when you're mentally exhausted,
- 8:43even something that you really want can feel like another obligation and your
- 8:49brain will start looking for relief instead of another challenge.
- 8:53The number three reason we lose motivation is that we're chasing goals that no longer matter for us.
- 9:01And this is interesting because this is where I got the idea for this podcast,
- 9:06having a conversation with somebody who was pursuing a goal,
- 9:10pursuing a dream that she actually outgrew.
- 9:15So this one might sting a little if you recognize yourself in this.
- 9:20Sometimes we're trying to stay very motivated and work really hard towards something
- 9:25that we don't even truly want anymore.
- 9:28A lot of people go after goals that really look impressive or that someone else
- 9:35is doing and they want to do it.
- 9:36But here's the question I want you to ask yourself. And please be honest.
- 9:40Do I actually want this or do I just want to be the kind of person who has it?
- 9:47And there's a big difference between the two. All right. Research on self-determination
- 9:52theory suggests that motivation gets stronger and more sustainable when we feel
- 9:58autonomy, competence, and connection.
- 10:02When we have some choice in what we're doing and possibilities and believe that
- 10:07we can improve and feel that it matters to us or connect us to others, we will keep going.
- 10:13So if you're constantly forcing yourself towards a goal that doesn't really
- 10:18align with your values, it's worth asking why.
- 10:23Number four reason we are losing motivation is that we're not seeing progress.
- 10:28And this one is so huge. So imagine working towards something for weeks or months
- 10:34or even years and feeling like you are going nowhere.
- 10:39It can be so frustrating. And when you don't see progress, you will definitely
- 10:45start questioning the effort.
- 10:47Is this even working? Am I wasting my time and energy?
- 10:50And sometimes progress is happening, but we are so damn focused on the finish
- 10:55line that we completely miss it.
- 10:58All right. So let's talk about the part I really want you to remember about this podcast.
- 11:05You don't always need motivation to take action. Sometimes taking action is
- 11:10what create motivation.
- 11:12Maybe that is the writer downer for today. You don't always need motivation to take action.
- 11:19Sometimes taking action is what creates motivation. So I'll read that again and again, guys.
- 11:27Because most of us have it absolutely backward.
- 11:31We think the sequence is, ah, feel motivated, then take the action,
- 11:35then get the results. And I'm sure sometimes that happens, but very often the
- 11:41sequence works the other way around.
- 11:43You take a small action, you feel a sense of progress, maybe very little,
- 11:49but ah, your confidence increases and now you're more willing to take the next step. All right.
- 11:56I was reading something the other day. It was very interesting.
- 11:59Psychologists have studied something called behavioral activation in the context of depression.
- 12:06And one principle is that engaging in meaningful activities can help improve
- 12:11mood and really reestablish momentum, even when the desire to act isn't there
- 12:17in the first part. Very interesting.
- 12:19For everyday say, motivation struggles, the broader lesson is incredibly useful.
- 12:25So action can come before the feeling.
- 12:28So think about exercising for a second. How many times have you not wanted to
- 12:33go the gym or go move or go on a walk and you come up with a million excuses? Don't worry, I do it too.
- 12:40Oh, it's cold. I'm tired. It's hot. It's windy. My shoes are downstairs.
- 12:46My dog is tired. I think I pull a muscle the other day.
- 12:50But then you finally go.
- 12:52And 20 minutes later, while you're doing it, you're thinking,
- 12:55oh my God, I'm so glad I did it. I'm so glad I'm doing this, right?
- 13:00You didn't wait to feel motivated. You started moving and your mental state completely shifted.
- 13:07And that is so powerful. And it's something that I remind athletes and people all the time.
- 13:13You don't have to feel confident to start, you don't have to feel ready to start,
- 13:18and you certainly don't have to feel motivated every single day.
- 13:22Sometimes you just need to begin. All right, so play with me for a second and
- 13:28let's have fun. I want you to do a little experiment with me.
- 13:32I call this the five-minute motivation test. And you can use this with almost anything.
- 13:38Maybe you've been putting off cleaning your house, maybe you've been putting
- 13:43off dealing with bills, maybe you want to write something but you never do,
- 13:49maybe you want to go work out, you need to go study,
- 13:53maybe you want to start a project, whatever it is, here's what you're going to do.
- 13:58Tell yourself, I'm only doing five minutes. That's it.
- 14:03Not an hour, not until it's finished. Five minutes.
- 14:07And give yourself permission to stop after those five minutes.
- 14:12Okay? Here's why this can work.
- 14:15One of the biggest obstacles to getting started is what psychologists call task
- 14:21initiation. So basically, task.
- 14:24Effort of starting can feel way bigger than the effort of continuing.
- 14:30And when we make that first little stupid step so small and so doable, well, guess what?
- 14:38We reduce that barrier. Because here's a secret.
- 14:41Once you're moving, continuing gets easier.
- 14:45Not always, I'll be honest, and that's okay.
- 14:48But you've given yourself a chance to create momentum instead of just sitting
- 14:53around and waiting around for the motivation to magically arrive on a unicorn. All right.
- 15:00And if you only do five minutes, well, congratulations, you still did five minutes
- 15:06more than you were going to do.
- 15:08And that's a win. But if you do more, oh, well, you'll feel very proud of yourself.
- 15:13Now, before we wrap this podcast, I want to talk about how to get that motivation back.
- 15:18Let's talk about what you can actually do when you feel stuck.
- 15:22And I'm going to give you five things I want you to try.
- 15:25The first one is reconnect with your why.
- 15:28And I don't mean some generic motivational quote that you find on Pinterest.
- 15:33All right, guys, I mean an actual reason. Why did you start?
- 15:38Why does this matter? Why are you going after that goal?
- 15:41Why are you trying to do xyz and what will change in your life if you follow through
- 15:48and what might happen if you keep pulling it off what is this going to cost
- 15:52you if you never lift the finger and move forward
- 15:55and let's be honest sometimes we lose motivation because we are getting so disconnected
- 16:00from the meaning behind our action and that's okay and that's another honest
- 16:04conversation that you need to have
- 16:06maybe you need to go back to the beginning maybe that goal that you're trying
- 16:10to chase doesn't even align with what you want anymore so give yourself permission
- 16:14to discover if your goals have changed and you're allowed to want different
- 16:19things at different stages of your life all right
- 16:21Second, stop making everything so freaking big.
- 16:26And I see this constantly. People set these enormous goals and then they wonder,
- 16:31oh my gosh, this is so much work. It's so overwhelming.
- 16:34Well, yeah, I want to completely transform my life.
- 16:38Okay, that's wonderful. But what does that actually mean for Tuesday afternoon
- 16:43at 3.30? Because that's where your life happens.
- 16:47Not in some imaginary future version of yourself. your life happens in ordinary
- 16:52moments. So instead of asking yourself, how do I change my entire life?
- 16:56Well, maybe ask, what's one thing I can do today that will move me into the right direction?
- 17:02Maybe send an email, maybe go on a walk, maybe write a page of a book,
- 17:06maybe have a conversation, maybe make a decision. So make the next step so clear
- 17:12and doable that you don't have to negotiate with yourself for 20 minutes. All right.
- 17:16Number three, create evidence that you're making progress.
- 17:20I talk about this a lot because it's something that I believe is incredibly
- 17:24important. Your brain learns from experience. So every time that you follow
- 17:28through on something, even if it's very small, you're creating evidence that
- 17:33you're capable of doing what you said you would do.
- 17:36One tiny action isn't going to magically rewire your entire brain overnight,
- 17:42but repeated experience of success, yes, can absolutely make a difference over time.
- 17:48And that matters. So stop waiting for some massive achievement to celebrate
- 17:52yourself. Notice the small win.
- 17:55Celebrate the small wins. Write them down. And at the end of the day,
- 17:59ask yourself, what did I do today that my future self will thank me for?
- 18:04And maybe it's not that big and grandiose and spectacular.
- 18:08Maybe nobody will notice and that's okay. Maybe nobody will applaud,
- 18:12but you did it. You did it anyway. And that's how you built momentum.
- 18:17Number four, change your environment. And this one is my favorite because sometimes
- 18:22motivation is not the problem. Your environment is working against you.
- 18:26You want to read more, but your phone is always in your face.
- 18:30You want to eat better, but your kitchen is full of shitty food.
- 18:34You want to work on a project, but every single time that you sit down,
- 18:38there's a million distractions around you.
- 18:40So we love to talk about willpower, but sometimes the smartest thing you can
- 18:45do for yourself is make the behavior you want easier and the behavior that you don't want harder.
- 18:53So put your walking shoes by the door. All right. Leave the notebook on the desk. I don't know.
- 18:58Put the book that you want to read by your bed.
- 19:02That way, maybe you reach out for the book instead of reaching out for your phone.
- 19:05So turn off the notification, turn off the distractions, and make a good choice
- 19:11convenient. Because relying on your willpower all the time every single day is exhausting.
- 19:18Number five, check your energy before you criticize your motivation.
- 19:24This one is important, especially these days, because it seems like everybody,
- 19:29me, myself included, did.
- 19:31Get so tired. Everybody's so tired right now.
- 19:34So this one is important. Sometimes you don't need another motivational speech
- 19:40or motivational podcast.
- 19:42You need sleep. You need a rest. You need a break.
- 19:46You need to eat a good meal, go outside, connect with someone,
- 19:52stop trying to do a million things all at once.
- 19:56We live in a culture that sometimes treat rest like it's weakness.
- 20:01And that's something that I personally have a hard time with.
- 20:04I certainly don't like to sit down and do nothing or go to bed early.
- 20:09So it's my own inner battle. I always kind of criticize myself.
- 20:13But as I get older, and I do need to honor, I need to honor myself and sleep
- 20:18better and just be more conscious about the way I rest mentally and physically.
- 20:24Rest and recovery are part of a very sustainable performance,
- 20:28whether you are a regular person, an athlete, no matter what you're doing.
- 20:32You cannot train at maximum intensity every single day without consequences.
- 20:39And life is the same way. Before you label yourself as lazy,
- 20:43just ask yourself, am I unmotivated or am I depleted?
- 20:47Because those two things require very different solutions.
- 20:52And if your loss of energy is persistent, especially if it's affecting your
- 20:57everyday life, well, maybe take a break. Take a break.
- 21:01Talk to a health care professional rather than thinking that you've got a discipline problem.
- 21:07Number five, stop waiting to feel like it.
- 21:11Here's something I want you to think about. What if you stop asking yourself,
- 21:17do I feel motivated today?
- 21:19Instead, ask yourself, what matters enough for me to show up today?
- 21:25Even if I don't feel like it, because sometimes you're not going to feel like
- 21:28it. But what matters enough for me to show up today?
- 21:32Motivation is going to come and go guys. It always has and always will.
- 21:39And some mornings you're going to wake up feeling on top of the world,
- 21:43ready for anything. And other mornings you're going to wake up thinking,
- 21:47can everybody just leave me alone for like six business days?
- 21:53Welcome to being human. The people who make meaningful progress in life aren't
- 21:59necessarily the people who feel motivated all the time, I'm telling you, all right?
- 22:04They're often the people who have learned how to keep moving,
- 22:08you know, on good days and bad days, but keep moving when excitement disappears
- 22:13because it's not always there.
- 22:15So not by forcing themselves to operate at 110% every day,
- 22:21but by building habits, a system, creating supportive environments,
- 22:27and learning how to take those small, manageable steps that I've been telling you about.
- 22:34And here's another thing. You are allowed to start again.
- 22:39I don't care if you started the same goal 10 times.
- 22:43I don't care if you abandon your new year resolutions on January 3rd.
- 22:48I don't care if you were doing great for six months and then completely fell off track.
- 22:53You can begin again and again. And you can begin today.
- 22:58You can begin tomorrow, next Tuesday.
- 23:01There is no rules that say that you only get one chance to become the person you want to be. Okay?
- 23:07And stop turning one unproductive day or one bad month into a story about who
- 23:14you are. All right? I didn't work out today.
- 23:18So I'm lazy. I haven't made progress lately. I'm a failure.
- 23:22I lost motivation, so maybe I'm just not disciplined. No, no, no, no, no, no.
- 23:28You had a day, maybe you had a week. Hey, you know what? Maybe you had a year,
- 23:33maybe a very difficult season, but that is not your identity.
- 23:38Again, it's information. Remember at the beginning of the podcast,
- 23:42I say we approach this with curiosity, not judgment.
- 23:47So what I want you to remember from this podcast, and you can save it for later
- 23:52if you need that little kick in the butt again.
- 23:55Here's what I want you to remember today. Motivation is amazing.
- 23:59It's wonderful. It feels good.
- 24:01But I don't want you to build your entire life around waiting for that feeling
- 24:06because feelings change, energy change, circumstances change.
- 24:11And if you only take action when everything is all pink and rosy and perfect,
- 24:16you're going to spend a lot of your life waiting.
- 24:20I'm going to leave you with this. You don't have to feel motivated to make progress,
- 24:24but making progress might just help you feel motivated again. All right.
- 24:30Thank you so much for spending this little part of the day with me.
- 24:34I really appreciate that you are tuning in to listening to the Nadia Chapman Show.
- 24:39If this episode made you think of someone who maybe is feeling a little stuck,
- 24:44please send it to them. Sometimes all we need is just a little reminder that
- 24:49we can start again. All right.
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- 24:59mindset growth and just figuring out this crazy, beautiful thing called life.
- 25:05I'm Nadia Chapman, and I'll talk to you next time.