Latest / Cage Match: A Roundabout Way of Meeting Nicolas Cage / Spider-Noir (Episodes 7 & 8)
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- 0:01Oh God. Oh, all right. Here's a quick correction.
- 0:25400 million is the number I was trying to think
- 0:27for like, it costs $400 million to make this
- 0:30whole show. I mean, that does feel high, but
- 0:33not like crazy. After having to pretty much recolorize
- 0:37the whole thing, it came out to about $400 million.
- 0:39$400 million is a lot for a TV show that runs
- 0:42on a single streaming service. Like the world
- 0:45of... Two. MGM Plus. So yeah, a single streaming
- 0:49service. Yeah, right. Huh. Welcome back to Cage
- 0:53Magical and Roundabout with me, Nicholas Cage.
- 0:55I'm Sean, here with... Peter. And me, Nick. Nah.
- 1:04And we're back. This is Spider Noir 7 and 8.
- 1:08Yeah. These are the last two episodes of this
- 1:11show, and I'm kind of sad about it. I have enjoyed
- 1:13it so far. Yeah, it was a ride. We finally get
- 1:18some like proper spider and about. Mm hmm. And
- 1:23somebody gets stabbed in the eye. Oh, yeah. I
- 1:26hate any eye stuff. Yeah, me too. uh we start
- 1:32off this episode with some uh some good old -fashioned
- 1:37nicholas cage drunk acting oh no we start out
- 1:41with cat reflecting on the men that she's entangled
- 1:44her life with playing the piano oh that's right
- 1:46with the dentist and yeah and thinking back about
- 1:50lon or not lonnie flint and how he pushed her
- 1:54away and then like seducing ben yeah but then
- 1:58she pushes ben away and he gets angry and she
- 2:01like slams it and then silvermane sends his i
- 2:04mean she doesn't so much push him away she betrays
- 2:07him and then he gets like cut up well she doesn't
- 2:11know he gets cut up but she betrays him and then
- 2:14uh silvermane and his crew show up and they're
- 2:18tell her about how the doc was making monsters
- 2:21and so they burn the place down And then Silvermane
- 2:24sends his goons out to cause havoc. And then
- 2:27he turns to the camera. He's like, you love it.
- 2:28You know you do. And I do. I do love it. Now
- 2:34it's Spider -Man or Ben sitting in a bar. Describing
- 2:40how spider legs work. He sends out the supers
- 2:44to go fuck up the mayor's shit. Yeah, he's like,
- 2:46go on, go out, cause havoc. Cause havoc. Fuck
- 2:49with the mayor. I think one of the things I liked
- 2:51about this scene, though, is it's like. Kat is
- 2:53given some sass back to Silvermane. And I like
- 2:56that they have like a certain level of respect,
- 2:59even though Silvermane could just fucking kill
- 3:01her. Yeah. But yeah, it's an interesting dynamic.
- 3:04But she's not a total sycophant. Right. And I
- 3:07guess that, to her point, is why he keeps her
- 3:09around. Yeah. He likes power. Yeah. Respects
- 3:13it. But anyway, then Ben gets drunk as fuck.
- 3:16Yeah. Ben gets drunk, talks about how spider
- 3:19legs work. hydraulics yeah just like a crazy
- 3:24party straws how many people do you think secretly
- 3:28know ben is the spider oh my god i mean there
- 3:33was that scene later yeah with janet but yeah
- 3:37he seems like he's bad at keeping a secret yep
- 3:42spiders a lot yeah sure I feel like the 30s were
- 3:49full of fucking weirdos, though. Yeah. And there's
- 3:51no Internet to spread these things around. Nobody
- 3:53has cameras in their pockets all the time. No
- 3:56one knew what autism was. Yeah. No one knows
- 3:59autism. It's all bootleg hooch. So it's probably,
- 4:02you know, fucking burning people's brains out.
- 4:04Yeah, it's got wormwood in it and shit. Everyone's
- 4:06fucking tripping balls. Heavily ethanolized.
- 4:10Yeah. But then then some dock workers come in
- 4:13flashing about the money that. silvermane's goons
- 4:16have been thrown about and talking about how
- 4:17you know the spider's a chump oh yeah i guess
- 4:20we blew over the scene where megawatt and uh
- 4:23sandman go tear up uh the mayor's election headquarters
- 4:30yeah and they're counting a lot of fucking money
- 4:33that's a lot of money yeah that's some dirty
- 4:36person money that is dirty person money for sure
- 4:38but yeah they take all his money beat up some
- 4:41cops and then they get away I did like that they
- 4:44beat up cops. Yeah. Kat goes to Ben's office
- 4:48looking for Ben because she heard about the fire.
- 4:51And then she's just met with Janet. They have
- 4:54a little talk. Janet starts to work the case.
- 4:56You can tell she's putting stuff together in
- 4:58her head. Oh, yeah. And then Kat leaves and Janet
- 5:02goes looking for Robbie. Boom. Dockside bar.
- 5:05Ben drunk. Spider talk. Bunch of chuds. A bunch
- 5:10of money. Yep. uh if i looked at my notes i wouldn't
- 5:14skip things yeah but that doesn't sound like
- 5:18us at all that doesn't sound like this podcast
- 5:19i mean i'm trying to just talk about like scenes
- 5:22i have stuff to talk about and you know i mean
- 5:24if people want to know what happens they can
- 5:25just watch the show well that's never been our
- 5:28thing also we're gonna spoil this whole show
- 5:30for you so brevity and uh brevity for this uh
- 5:37yeah So some dudes show up, they start shit talking.
- 5:42Ben's all like, well, have you ever considered
- 5:45that he has feelings and gets tired? And they
- 5:48just. Yeah. Yeah. And so Ben leaves. puts on
- 5:56the spider mask and then turns right back around.
- 5:59And I love that shot of him drunkenly going back
- 6:03down the stairs. Like it pulls his mask on. It's
- 6:06like, here comes the fucking spider bitches.
- 6:10and beats their asses beats the shit out of them
- 6:14web web web web web yeah the sound effects of
- 6:18him like flipping them up onto the walls in the
- 6:21end was great that whole fight like was so good
- 6:25mostly kind of single camera shot uh the dodging
- 6:29um just oh it felt so brutal the guy who just
- 6:32gets hunched across the bar yeah exactly That
- 6:37guy's dead. I know they never really like expressly
- 6:39say that Ben is super strong, but you see it
- 6:41in these little moments where he just like punches
- 6:43a regular dude and he goes flying or something
- 6:46like that. It's like, fuck, don't mess with the
- 6:48spider. Yeah. Strength proportional to in size
- 6:53to a spider. Crazy. He's so strong. Hydraulic,
- 6:56hydraulic, hydro limbs. Yeah. Yeah. And then
- 7:00the bartender pours him another. terrible whiskey
- 7:02or whatever yeah just sort of loosely peels up
- 7:05his mask oh my god yeah bartender amon's a good
- 7:10guy that's right good robbie walks into the the
- 7:14shit show that is the bar and takes him away
- 7:19without you know it takes away the antidote so
- 7:23ben can't keep like moaning and saying that he's
- 7:25just gonna do it and then it takes him away and
- 7:27then they reflect on a bench and they talk about
- 7:30bench stuff Yeah, pretty much. And then they
- 7:33go to the office and talk to Janet about all
- 7:35the reveal that he's the spider. And she's like,
- 7:37what? Yeah. I was also surprised that it wasn't
- 7:42an open secret with the three of them. Yeah.
- 7:45Oh, yeah. I mean, I think it is definitely open
- 7:47with all three of them. It's just who knows in
- 7:50the three, you know. yeah i do love all the cuts
- 7:55of all the times janet's just walked into the
- 7:58office and ben's been like half spidered out
- 8:01and the one time he's just hanging from the ceiling
- 8:04with a bottle of hooch in his hand he's like
- 8:06i'm the spider i'm the spider also but like flat
- 8:15hand just 90 degree angle flat hand seems like
- 8:19just the worst way to hang from anything Yeah,
- 8:21maybe. I do love when he's explaining to Janet
- 8:24all the shit that happened to him. He's just
- 8:26like, and then I got cut up and this and blah,
- 8:28blah, blah. And these things happen. And then
- 8:29they burned everything down and exploded. We
- 8:30got an antidote. And then I got plastered. And
- 8:36Robbie's like, and beat up some dudes at a bar.
- 8:39He's like, oh, and beat up some guys at a bar.
- 8:43Yeah. Cat and Flint have a thing. But Flint's
- 8:47like, I'm a silver main guy now. I'm hench for
- 8:49life. and it's interesting that cat actually
- 8:52does love flint yeah like i think that's fine
- 8:56you know i mean it felt like she was playing
- 8:58all the cards you know in the earlier episodes
- 9:00and then it's just like oh no she actually loves
- 9:03that guy yeah i mean it you know his big sandy
- 9:06dick exfoliating on the inside such dry dusty
- 9:15loads I mean, she seems to be the only character
- 9:18that really has like really want something out
- 9:21of this whole show. Like she's kind of the one
- 9:24who drives the entire plot. Yeah. Well, she's
- 9:28the one who brings the whole case and everything
- 9:29about. But yeah, she does genuinely care for
- 9:33Flint, which we find. And, you know, it's because
- 9:35Flint's always just kind of let her be her and
- 9:38loves her for the good and the bad. And that's
- 9:43what she she loves about him. That's tough. Yeah.
- 9:46And he's like a little pissy at her because he
- 9:48didn't she didn't trust him to do the murdering
- 9:50of Silvermane. Yeah. And because he caught her
- 9:54with Ben back at the. Yeah. The theater that
- 9:58he first saw her in. But she could at least explain,
- 10:01like, I'm playing him. Yeah. But yeah, I just
- 10:05wanted to kill for her. Yeah, that's tough. You
- 10:08don't want to kill for somebody. So then what?
- 10:11OK, so Ben makes more antidote from the antidote.
- 10:14He like divvies it up. Yeah, he just puts it
- 10:16into vials. Now he just builds in syringe. Syringes.
- 10:20Yeah, no stretching. Just. Oh, it's literally
- 10:23just portioning. Yeah, just portioning. Portion
- 10:25control. Who in that office was doing heroin?
- 10:28I know. Why did they have so many fucking syringes?
- 10:30Someone had a kit. Yeah. Well, it's racist to
- 10:34say it's Robbie. Robbie makes the point that
- 10:38he wants to like. kind of give lincoln lonnie
- 10:41uh like a way out doesn't want to just like take
- 10:45the fight to him like lonnie did him a solid
- 10:47he wants to you know he wants to give lonnie
- 10:49the same chance to walk away yeah yeah so when
- 10:53they hear on the radio that uh the silvermane
- 10:55crew is like busting up some warehouse full of
- 10:58the mayor's shit or no the uh the stuff that
- 11:01cops have seized in the raids he's like let me
- 11:03talk to lonnie first and then you can spider
- 11:05out and he's like okay so he talks to lonnie
- 11:08I was confused by the scene because when we get
- 11:11to the warehouse, they're just giving cops like
- 11:15they're just chumming around with cops and giving
- 11:17them like giving them bottles of booze. Yeah,
- 11:19they're dirty caps. Yeah, I mean, it's cops.
- 11:21So clearly these cops are still in the silver
- 11:24main pocket. Right. And prepared to remain just
- 11:27cops. They turn against Lonnie in a second. Oh,
- 11:31yeah. Well, when he doesn't have powers. Yeah.
- 11:34then he's nothing then he's just a black guy
- 11:36and then he's just a black guy in the 30s yeah
- 11:39all right fair racism kicked in yeah exactly
- 11:43he's no longer a super powered uh he had some
- 11:46protection because of that yeah now he's just
- 11:48a minority uh so ben ben jumps in when the talking
- 11:52doesn't help uh they fight a little bit he tries
- 11:56to cure lonnie but the needle bends i did like
- 12:00that he he does this big like hi -yah drop down
- 12:02onto him and the needle just goes yep it's like
- 12:05oh fuck before the hi -yah though when they are
- 12:08fighting like ben's getting up in the rafters
- 12:11and lonnie's throwing shit at him and then like
- 12:12ben like scurries away sneaks away and lonnie's
- 12:16looking at every direction butt up yeah maybe
- 12:20he's like a pig and he can't look up i don't
- 12:22know well the last time like he got away because
- 12:25he slung a door from a car that's lani so they
- 12:29were on the ground together yeah and he looks
- 12:31all around but yeah it doesn't look up which
- 12:33you would think it's based on how the spider
- 12:35fights people would just look up but what if
- 12:38you look up and he wasn't up he was down like
- 12:41he's hiding at your knees And then he uppercuts
- 12:44you. Speed bags your balls. I would rather, you
- 12:46know, I would take the educated guess. Yeah,
- 12:50I mean, I agree with you. There is an issue of
- 12:54Straczynski's Spider -Man where like a security
- 12:57guard just looks up once and like Peter's just
- 13:00there and Peter's like, you're not supposed to
- 13:02do that. So anyway, then like. Why is Robbie
- 13:09there? Well, Robbie was there because he was
- 13:10talking to Lonnie. He was trying to talk. It's
- 13:12all the still all the still the same fight. Yeah.
- 13:15This whole fight. All I can think is. All right.
- 13:19Well, you're not going to break the hide because
- 13:20bullets can't do it. So you either need to get
- 13:22him in the eye or the tongue. Dear God, please
- 13:25let it be the tongue. God in the hill for the
- 13:27eye. Robbie goes just fucking needle to the eye.
- 13:31And it is. Oh, yeah. It's pretty brutal watching
- 13:35a guy. flap around with a needle in his eye i
- 13:38can't do i i can't do eye drops so watching someone
- 13:40get stabbed in the eye was rough and those are
- 13:42wet yeah so then he gets i don't care i don't
- 13:45like things touching my eyes it just makes me
- 13:47deeply uncomfortable how do you feel about eyelids
- 13:48do you have greater problems with eyelids all
- 13:52the time those are those that's automatic i have
- 13:55no control over that but like actually you do
- 13:57have control over that if i've learned anything
- 14:01you could not to blink you could cut those things
- 14:03right off okay and then you would never have
- 14:06anything touching your eyes except eye drops
- 14:08because your eyes would be really dry all the
- 14:09time or piss piss would do we do it here yep
- 14:16that's what's happening now okay you got me off
- 14:20the story and now we're just doing nick so lonnie
- 14:24has now been depowered Ben's pretty beat up by
- 14:26Lonnie. They all steal a police car tight and
- 14:30escape back to Robbie's place. Yeah, I think
- 14:35like at this point, Ben's he's not completely
- 14:37unconscious, but he's yeah, he's fucked up. He
- 14:40needs to do his recovery pose on the bed. Yeah,
- 14:42do his little spider. He needs to recharge. Yeah,
- 14:45he's recharging. The one other important part
- 14:47of the scene is he loses his webbing during the
- 14:50fight. He busted it all on the fucking. doc chuds
- 14:56yeah just web web web web web web refractory
- 14:59period takes a little while give it time he'll
- 15:02come back need a nap at a sandwich yeah that's
- 15:04right never got that sandwich no no but yeah
- 15:08they go back uh lonnie says he's gonna go to
- 15:12niagara falls with his mom and takes off with
- 15:15some money and you get a good shot of him like
- 15:17walking out into the streets and uh into the
- 15:21proverbial horizon yeah It's a good arc for Lonnie.
- 15:25Mm hmm. He's not a bad dude. Yeah, I don't think
- 15:27he and Flint are necessarily bad guys are just
- 15:30guys in bad situations. Yeah. And because of
- 15:33their powers and the kind of ticking clock on
- 15:38their lives because of said powers, they kind
- 15:42of throw in in the wrong spot. And, you know.
- 15:45Yeah. Lonnie doesn't want to work. Yeah. Lonnie
- 15:48doesn't want to work for anyone. He just wants
- 15:49to like live his life. And he knows he's on borrowed
- 15:52time. Where Flint is just like, Flint's like,
- 15:55I'm a goon. I'm fine with being a goon. You should
- 15:58come goon with me. let's not use that phrase
- 16:02we can power goon together brother all night
- 16:04long just just two brothers gooning yeah it was
- 16:07the 20s they were still allowed to be goons then
- 16:09it was it didn't have the connotation yeah you
- 16:12can stay gooning it's the 20s yeah it's the 30s
- 16:15whatever i think you can still goon in the 30s
- 16:16yeah just no gooning now in our 40s oh man i
- 16:20would die i just bust as fast as possible go
- 16:24to bed that's why we need the The eyelids and
- 16:27the water, the eye drops. Gross. For the wetness.
- 16:32That's kind of the end of this episode. It's
- 16:36interesting. Of all the episodes, this one flew
- 16:38by the fastest for me. I think it's because it
- 16:40was a little more loaded with fights in general.
- 16:43There's a lot more like fast action shit in there.
- 16:46Yeah, the pace is picking up for sure. Yeah,
- 16:48there wasn't as much of that. Like, here's all
- 16:50the threads that are being pulled around this
- 16:52entire thing. It's like, oh, shit, it's coming
- 16:54to a head. Yeah, we're approaching the climax.
- 16:56Yeah, for sure. After all the goonery, we are
- 17:00approaching climax. and the episode i think the
- 17:04only other main thing is the episode does end
- 17:06with like kind of interstitial split cuts of
- 17:09silvermane and the mayor kind of like coming
- 17:11together like not coming together but like their
- 17:13like ultimate plan as to how because they both
- 17:15find out that there is a cure for the super for
- 17:17the soups the mayor wants it to have power over
- 17:20silvermane silvermane wants it to have power
- 17:22over his people um so we get the like comic panel
- 17:28cut of both of them being like get me ben reilly
- 17:31yeah well the spider is just like laid up in
- 17:34bed yeah i think it was a strong way to finish
- 17:36that episode though yeah yeah it's a nice good
- 17:38visual like feels comic booky and it leads into
- 17:42this big finale so yep on to episode eight the
- 17:45man in the mask i forgot it starts off with like
- 17:50cat and silvermane hanging out at the bar or
- 17:52no it doesn't there's a little bit later but
- 17:54i i love that silvermane's just sitting there
- 17:56like munching down pistachios and all i could
- 17:59think of was bobo i was like god i love a bobo
- 18:02he does have big bobo energy he's got bobo energy
- 18:05for sure just pistachio shells all over the table
- 18:08exactly there's just a ham -fisted man this one
- 18:15just kind of generally starts out with lots of
- 18:18uh flint and megawatt in a car megawatt being
- 18:21annoying everybody calls him out on being annoying
- 18:23uh different shots with uh the silvermane and
- 18:27rig and cat we do get megawatt talking like we
- 18:31you know i mean this whole show show ever since
- 18:33he was introduced we kind of he's been the wild
- 18:35card he's been kind of the one who's who doesn't
- 18:37seem to care about silvermane at all and just
- 18:40wants more power for the sake of power yeah he
- 18:42definitely does not conform he's never been in
- 18:44silvermane's pocket he just is there any but
- 18:48he also is the one to point out to uh sandman
- 18:51that you know silvermane only wants this to control
- 18:55them like why are you working for you're the
- 18:58one with powers you're the one who is indestructible
- 19:00why are why are we the goons why aren't we running
- 19:04the show yeah we're grab yeah and uh fucking
- 19:09marco doesn't have an answer because he loves
- 19:12cat yeah he's got a really gravelly ass voice
- 19:16Like that actor. I'm impressed. I mean, he's
- 19:19made of sand. Why wouldn't that? That's right.
- 19:21That's just really tiny gravel. It was back in
- 19:25the last episode or two episodes ago when they
- 19:28bust Megawatt out. One of the cops goes, hey,
- 19:32man, you look pretty rough. I was like, God,
- 19:35that's so fucking dumb. Oh, yeah. OK, so, yeah,
- 19:42that's right. So Kat and Janet now have this
- 19:45whole. All the information is shared. The antidote
- 19:48story is going on. They know how much antidote
- 19:50is left. Kat really wants it to be used on Megawatt
- 19:55and Sandman. Yeah, she's like, give me the cure.
- 19:58I'll take care of them. They won't expect me.
- 20:01Yeah. Yeah. And Janet's like, that's a bad idea.
- 20:05But Ben's like, that's a great idea. And before
- 20:08that exchange can be made, Flint and. megawatt
- 20:14show up because they followed Janet so they know
- 20:17where they know he's over at Robbie's and they
- 20:21come pick up Ben. Oh, we get the return of the
- 20:22kid. Oh yeah, the kid. Oh yeah, the kid. The
- 20:26kid's kind of come back. He's done his geometries.
- 20:29Geometricals. He's trying to pick the lock on
- 20:31their money box. Yeah, I like that kid. Yeah,
- 20:35he's a good kid. Just curious, that's all. That's
- 20:38it. He's practicing his skills. Yeah, he does
- 20:41have that voice. so yeah so then uh ben gets
- 20:44picked up by megawatt and sandman and robbie
- 20:47tries to pass off his coat with the antidote
- 20:51in it but he's unable to unable to they'll keep
- 20:53him dry yeah cozy yeah uh so yeah and then he
- 20:58gets dragged back to uh see silvermane and silvermane's
- 21:02just trying to be like hey get us the spider
- 21:05on the phone because we want that cure and we
- 21:09want let bygones be themselves and such yep this
- 21:13has definitely this was definitely one of my
- 21:15favorite just interact character interactions
- 21:17throughout this whole show is when they're uh
- 21:19negotiating for uh ben like how much you know
- 21:22to pay ben because ben's like i'm not gonna help
- 21:25you it's like the mayor the mayor wants something
- 21:27you want something like we're negotiating and
- 21:30i think what uh silverman tries to lowball him
- 21:33uh ben sends 10 000 and there's just this great
- 21:37back and forth between uh gleason and cage and
- 21:40i absolutely love and when they finally come
- 21:42to a number at the end of it uh like silverman's
- 21:45like to be honest i would have given you ten
- 21:47thousand and cage is like you know yeah i would
- 21:51have taken the 100 yeah so uh yep so he calls
- 21:56makes a call and they're like to get the spider
- 22:01and it's just robbie on the other side pretending
- 22:05to be the spider and janet critiquing his ben
- 22:08voice like what is what is that what is that
- 22:11voice like i'm doing ben yeah it's a good ben
- 22:14impression it was pretty good yeah and so they
- 22:18have to wait for the spider to show up but in
- 22:22the meantime everybody starts to put it together
- 22:24megawatt puts it together where he uh like i
- 22:27knew you from morse argon yeah yeah he's been
- 22:30like recognizing ben this whole time he's like
- 22:32where do i know you from yeah so silvermane's
- 22:35like oh you were at the same place where they
- 22:37became super so maybe you're the spider so he
- 22:40concocts this plan to like hold fucking cat with
- 22:45a gun and be like the spider won't let her die
- 22:47so if you're the spider then she lives otherwise
- 22:51oh well and it'd be a real shame if i was wrong
- 22:56in this But that's when the spider shows up and
- 23:01Ben gets to say that Silvermane was just showing
- 23:04them how to kill an innocent woman or something
- 23:06like that. Right. It was good. All the while
- 23:08under the table, you got Ben desperately trying
- 23:11to bust. Trying to bust. Just dry webbing. Just
- 23:15dry webbing. Oh, gross. Yeah. And then we get
- 23:20a really good scene of Robbie pretending to be
- 23:24the spider. He comes in full costume. Yep. Full
- 23:27voice. He's a real asshole, which is on point.
- 23:30Yep. And then the idiot goons found Janet outside.
- 23:35She had the antidote. And so they're like, well,
- 23:39we've got all the cards now. And Megawatt's like,
- 23:41ah, I got this. And so he stabs the spider with
- 23:44an antidote. The second to last antidote. Yeah,
- 23:48I did have the thought seeing Robbie in the in
- 23:51the spider suit just for a minute being like,
- 23:54oh, yeah. What if there wasn't like a 62 year
- 23:56old man in that suit? That would look real cool.
- 24:00Yeah. Yeah, it fits Lamar Morris a little bit
- 24:04better. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think they made a
- 24:06second costume or just put him in the same one?
- 24:09That would I mean, that would have been hilarious.
- 24:11It's like him wearing his dad's clothes, a big
- 24:13old baggy suit. I. Also feel like they did get
- 24:17a second hat because the hat does fit the mask
- 24:19better in the last episode. I noticed it less
- 24:21after you complained about it. Yeah. Yeah. The
- 24:24final episodes, they gave him a better hat. Yeah.
- 24:27Yeah. Or a smaller head. So, yeah, Megawad zaps
- 24:31him, zaps Robbie. Yeah. Zaps him and stabs him
- 24:34with the antidote, which what is that going to
- 24:36do to a normal person? Seems like nothing. Well,
- 24:40let's find out in season two of Spider Noir.
- 24:44Only if the show makes $800 million for Amazon.
- 24:47I think it gives him Ben's psoriasis. Not psoriasis,
- 24:50cirrhosis. That's the joke I wanted to make.
- 24:54I smelled what you were stepping in. Yeah. We've
- 24:59been talking about eczema too much. Yeah. OK,
- 25:02so, yeah, Robbie goes down as the spider. They
- 25:04reveal. Yeah, yeah. They pull off the. mask and
- 25:09everything it's like oh he was the reporter the
- 25:11whole time and that's when ben gets his powers
- 25:14back he webs back the antidote starts busting
- 25:17yeah busting ben's busting again Big fight ensues.
- 25:23I love the guy with the Tommy gun who comes in
- 25:25and starts like just gunning down the place.
- 25:27And Ben does like a ceiling web swing that is
- 25:30like the lamest spider swing that has ever existed.
- 25:33To be fair, though, if you're swinging in an
- 25:36enclosed room, the web doesn't shorten. All right.
- 25:41It's going to look silly and stupid when you
- 25:43do the geometricals on it. If you do the geometricals,
- 25:46you're right. Yeah, so the little fight cat starts
- 25:52popping off. She's shooting henchmen. Yeah, that's
- 25:55pretty cool. Silvermane runs out of the room.
- 25:59I love how slow he is. I mean, it's more of a
- 26:00shuffle. Yeah, well, he's got a cane. He's an
- 26:03old man with a cane. Hey, it's ableist of you
- 26:06to make fun of him. it's interesting it's interesting
- 26:11because like he is an effective bad guy like
- 26:13you you definitely feel like he could kill you
- 26:14at any time but he's also just like an old dude
- 26:17yeah he's no powers he's just an old opportunistic
- 26:21gangster you know so like watching him shuffle
- 26:24off to his like safe house you're like oh right
- 26:27yeah you can die but before that all kicks off
- 26:31just the tense like when they're all sitting
- 26:33at the table together just the low shots of um
- 26:37ben talking to silvermane you have those shots
- 26:40of just like silvermane's giant fist on the table
- 26:43and ben in the background just dwarfing him from
- 26:45the camera angles are so good and they're lit
- 26:48so well just this whole last episode visually
- 26:51was so astounding definitely yeah they nailed
- 26:53it with the camera work in in this episode just
- 26:56like they did with last episode yeah so let's
- 26:59talk about that because like the next big thing
- 27:00is that cat chases silvermane down into his like
- 27:03menagerie i love the sequence so good the those
- 27:08overhead like resident evil shots of like them
- 27:10moving through the mirror maze the mirror maze
- 27:14is so good i do appreciate in episode two when
- 27:16we see kat performing that whole thing is behind
- 27:19her so it's not just like why does this fucker
- 27:23have a mirror maze random yeah yeah so it was
- 27:26uh and just her shooting mirrors it like shattering
- 27:30and you getting multiple reflections of them
- 27:31like over each other just such good like such
- 27:35a good love letter to like old hollywood definitely
- 27:37yeah uh so then i guess i mean ultimately she
- 27:40shoots enough of the mirrors away that it's just
- 27:41the two of them standing there yeah and he's
- 27:44like you wouldn't do it and then he he like this
- 27:46little like cane knife out yeah as if he's gonna
- 27:49charge her or something and she's just like and
- 27:53so cold too i know boy yeah the way she takes
- 27:58him out that was uh he shouldn't have killed
- 28:00her fucking dentist yeah yeah although she came
- 28:04out of it with perfectly fine teeth that's true
- 28:08We forgot to mention when they're doing the whole
- 28:11questioning of Ben as the spider. Cat finally
- 28:16like just admits everything to try and get it
- 28:18off Ben. She was the one who tried to like have
- 28:21Silvermane killed that she did it for Marco.
- 28:25She loves him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So everybody's
- 28:29come clean to everybody about everything at this
- 28:32point. So then we get back up onto the street.
- 28:36Outside of the alcoves. The goon fight has been
- 28:39dragged out into the streets. We get the actual
- 28:44superhero fight. Ben takes a bit to put on the
- 28:47spider costume because we need a body double
- 28:49for Nick Cage. But this is where the episode
- 28:53mildly breaks down for me. It's just like, at
- 28:56this point, Marco and Megawatt are kicking the
- 28:59shit out of Spider -Man or the spider. And all
- 29:02I can think is... Why is Marco doing this? Yeah,
- 29:07I mean. You could get bloodlust. I don't know.
- 29:11None of none of this has affected him yet, though.
- 29:15The only reason he was working for Silvermane
- 29:18was to save Cat. Silvermane just threatened to
- 29:20kill Cat. And now like she's going after Silvermane
- 29:24and Marco knows there's an antidote. And it's
- 29:28just like just going to go just going to go have
- 29:30a punch up because maybe he doesn't like mouthy
- 29:32guys. Yeah. Maybe he doesn't like guys who tried
- 29:35to steal his girl. Maybe we just haven't been
- 29:39given a strong enough character moment for him
- 29:42to turn back. Maybe Cat needs to show up and
- 29:45try to shoot Megawatt, but she's out of bullets,
- 29:48so Megawatt goes to shock her to death. Maybe
- 29:51that's enough for him. Maybe he could step in
- 29:54at this moment. He gives her the shocker. The
- 29:57shocker. We've been doing it so long. You gotta
- 30:00get the shocker. Oh, my God. OK, so let's talk
- 30:03about the fight because the fight is pretty fucking
- 30:05good. It's a good fight. It's pretty good. I
- 30:07mean, they're all over the place. They're really
- 30:09wild. I mean, Megawad is so over the top. He's
- 30:13so theatrical. He's such a douchebag. Talks about
- 30:16his moment on Broadway. The people of New York
- 30:18are just. hanging out they like they boo him
- 30:22at one point i love that classic new york it's
- 30:26like are you not entertained and it's like boo
- 30:28you suck go yankees nobody is concerned about
- 30:33this at all no not at all they're all just sort
- 30:37of like a classic uh saturday night you know
- 30:40now to be fair the last time that these goons
- 30:42showed up in public they started giving out money
- 30:45so i would hang around for a little bit that's
- 30:47a good point there could be money involved yeah
- 30:49maybe maybe they've got some spare tommy guns
- 30:53laying around you never know yeah i haven't had
- 30:55a tommy gun yet i don't know maybe i want it
- 30:57maybe yeah I haven't tried that side of life
- 31:00yet. We'll find out what that one couple thinks
- 31:02of it. I wish they were there. I know. I am disappointed
- 31:05that that did not get a third appearance. I was
- 31:08bummed they didn't come back. I thought about
- 31:09that. I was looking for him. So I was really
- 31:11hoping that they were going to be there at some
- 31:12point. Yeah. Disappointing. Yeah. They have a
- 31:16good punch up. Good punch up. Megawatts like
- 31:18zapping the shit out of him. Flint is punching
- 31:21the shit out of him. Smashes his head into a
- 31:23car. Like looks gruesome. Yeah. Like some of
- 31:27the mask off. We get a weird Nicolas Cage head
- 31:30on not Nicolas Cage's body for a second. Oh,
- 31:32yeah. Battle damage body. OK, so what happens?
- 31:36So Megawatt gets injured or something. There's
- 31:39like a moment where it's just Flint and the spider.
- 31:42What happened there? Well, the spider took the
- 31:44two cars and he slammed it. This is at that moment
- 31:47where everything's kind of what led to that.
- 31:49Because, like, why wasn't Megawatt right in that?
- 31:51action oh they all got like thrown into oh the
- 31:55marquee and everybody was kind of dazed for a
- 31:58second right so then it's flint versus the spider
- 32:01yeah and he gets the two cars yeah and he like
- 32:04slams them which is really cool because then
- 32:07he goes full sand yeah it was amazing and uh
- 32:10everybody's just kind of recovering after that
- 32:13megawatt starts drawing energy directly from
- 32:16like currents yeah yeah and cat's like uh but
- 32:21she's out of bullets and so that's when megabot's
- 32:24like i'm gonna kill you too because i can kill
- 32:27anybody so he zaps her so he starts zapping but
- 32:30then uh it just kind of like zaps her like to
- 32:32knock her down ish but then sandy is sandy sandy
- 32:38mandy also during this fight uh we lose all but
- 32:42one of the antidotes at this point yeah exactly
- 32:45we're down to the the final one final vial because
- 32:48one got used on uh robbie then there were because
- 32:51there were three left one for all the supers
- 32:54right uh one got used on robbie and then the
- 32:56one the spider was using to try and fight with
- 32:59got destroyed as well so there's only one yeah
- 33:01yeah out of his hand crushed in his hand yeah
- 33:04yeah um he's like oh no when that happened yeah
- 33:10and so sandman like intervenes um fighting megawatt
- 33:15but he's getting glassed because of electricity
- 33:18and that was so cool that was a cool concept
- 33:21i was sad when his little hand broke off but
- 33:23uh i was also sad when he showed him healed later
- 33:26he had all of his hands yeah i was like yeah
- 33:28he could have had one less hand it would have
- 33:30been okay um not a jerk with the left but yeah
- 33:34you know we all suffer he's got cat for that
- 33:35hey there you go he's got his gal uh then while
- 33:43he's like shocking sandman you know the spider
- 33:46intervenes uh starts getting shocked through
- 33:49the webs that he's holding megawatt back with
- 33:51but then he fucking swings him out and throws
- 33:54him in front of that train and that was so cool
- 33:56best way to like take out this end of this guy
- 33:59hit by a train yep and the people loved it yeah
- 34:03everybody cheers it's good it's happy and spider
- 34:08gives cat the final antidote to do with as she
- 34:11pleases which is clearly to heal fix flint yeah
- 34:15fast forward everything's cool right we have
- 34:19silvermane's funeral silvermane's funeral with
- 34:22nobody there except for flint and cat and ben
- 34:25ben in the background but he gets to be a total
- 34:28dick super dick so good that's great rightfully
- 34:32fucking so i mean i i don't disagree with you
- 34:35i think that was exactly how it should have gone
- 34:37but oh i would have chosen you had he not been
- 34:41in the picture it's like oh hey get fucked yeah
- 34:44right and she tells him to go to hell and he's
- 34:46like i'll keep a space warm for you yeah yeah
- 34:49i love that that's good stuff okay so yeah he's
- 34:55he's a dick to cat cat's a dick back uh -huh
- 34:57and that's the end of their arc yeah yeah then
- 35:00we just get a nice one has two fucking hands
- 35:02tie up uh in the office yeah ben and janet are
- 35:07now co yeah co -owners or whatever of the it's
- 35:12both of their detective agency now yeah riley
- 35:14ruiz yeah which i feel like is a nice way to
- 35:17finish it you know it kind of has that like door
- 35:20gets closed and the light casts through it so
- 35:22that you know the name of their business is cast
- 35:24on the ground yeah and you can see it you can
- 35:27see it right way instead of backwards yeah that's
- 35:32fine yeah just we'll go with it yeah it's good
- 35:35for the thematic you know element that it was
- 35:38just like oh man my favorite lighting scene at
- 35:43the bar with the light coming in through the
- 35:45fan so it just breaks up the background that
- 35:47way oh yeah really nice really nice oh yeah that
- 35:50just that that just industrial fan on the back
- 35:53wall Yeah, all the man. I mean, because that's
- 35:57the end of the show. I mean, all the visuals
- 35:59in this are really, really strong. Yeah, I think,
- 36:02you know, for for a TV show, for a superhero
- 36:04show like they did a great job setting that noir
- 36:07feeling. I mean, it's really beautifully shot.
- 36:10Yeah, I would say I don't have any complaints
- 36:13about the show. Yeah, the scenery is tight. The
- 36:16costuming is great. The cinematography is terrific.
- 36:21acting is solid like the storyline is good it's
- 36:25it's tight you know they threw a bunch of storylines
- 36:28out there and weave them together really effectively
- 36:30i mean yeah i don't know if i just took a a second
- 36:33to get used to the graphics in it but yeah i
- 36:37didn't really have any problems with it in the
- 36:39beginning I think it's just one of those things.
- 36:42It's like a TV show is never going to look as
- 36:43sharp as a movie, right? You know, like she Hulk
- 36:46attorney at law. I really liked that show, but
- 36:48the special effects cost a fucking fortune and
- 36:51didn't look that great. You know, so I enjoyed
- 36:54the whole thing. The one thing, if I could, if
- 36:56I could change one thing about this show is.
- 37:00i really love in the opening credits all the
- 37:04shots of the spider are kind of done at like
- 37:06a slightly slower frame rate so they look like
- 37:08more like a maquette i would have loved a little
- 37:13bit of that in the show um rather than interesting
- 37:15rubbery uh cg uh the too smooth cg look yeah
- 37:22because i mean you think about like um into the
- 37:24spider verse too there's a lot of that kind of
- 37:26like frame breaking kind of um it's as if the
- 37:31frame rate is slower for the like tight animation
- 37:33because it is you know cells of a comic book
- 37:36and i think that could have played well for what
- 37:39they were trying to do with the homage to 20s
- 37:43filmmaking yeah like harryhausen that shit a
- 37:47bit like just add a little bit of a filter i
- 37:49think it would have made it i it would have made
- 37:51the rubbery rubberiness a little less noticeable
- 37:54yeah well they could have just you know pumped
- 37:57up the budget and then shot this whole thing
- 37:58on film also there's that too i mean yeah they're
- 38:02already spending 400 million why not spend 450
- 38:05million yeah right i knew i mean if this is our
- 38:09biggest complaint about this show that's pretty
- 38:11telling right yeah like i think this fucking
- 38:14hit and it's a shame that it probably will never
- 38:16get a sequel series you know but i do appreciate
- 38:19because the show is such a big swing i do appreciate
- 38:22that the showrunners That's my second one. Your
- 38:27inadvertent jokes are way better than the joke
- 38:31we heard last week to open up last week's episode.
- 38:34Yes, last week. I don't even remember what that
- 38:37was. Something about Spider -Man -Man -Men. Yeah.
- 38:41Spider -Man? Spider -Man -Man -Men. It's raining
- 38:46Spider -Mans. And you're about to get webbed.
- 38:51Web, web, web. Web, web, web. what was he saying
- 38:56web i thought he was saying thwap no he was saying
- 38:58but he was saying web he was saying web yeah
- 39:03um This was I'll say this. This was a show I
- 39:08did not have to use subtitles on. I watched the
- 39:11whole thing without subtitles and I loved it.
- 39:14I actually felt because there was one episode
- 39:16I watched without it and realized that I had
- 39:18watched a full TV show without subtitles on.
- 39:20It was like, whoa. Yeah. Look at me. Yeah, it
- 39:23comes across real nice. I've got that reverse
- 39:25aging special power. My ears work. Oh, don't
- 39:29tell Ogden. He's going to come for your liver
- 39:31butts. Sorry, Ogden. Bloods. Liver butts? Yeah.
- 39:36It's fine. That's how you get to the liver, right?
- 39:38Through the butt? Yeah. I think everything gets
- 39:40there through the butt. Eventually. Yeah. If
- 39:45your gloves are deep enough. Long enough. Gross.
- 39:48The human body. Just a tube. Yeah. Well, that's
- 39:52it. No, I'm kidding. What were we talking about?
- 39:56Spider Noir. Episode 8. I just got distracted
- 40:00thinking about that old Bloodhound Gang song.
- 40:04you and me baby yeah isn't that where they talk
- 40:06about like snakes are just like a really long
- 40:09pussy wait no what am i thinking about yeah i
- 40:12mean i'm sure that's bloodhound where have i
- 40:13heard is that guar fucking a snake something
- 40:18about fucking a snake fucking an animal maybe
- 40:20it is fucking an animal yeah yeah that's a guar
- 40:22song okay no i remember what i was gonna say
- 40:24uh i really do appreciate that given the fact
- 40:28that the show was you know long odds that we'd
- 40:30get a they didn't leave anything, any hangling
- 40:35threat, any hanging threads. There's no, like
- 40:38this person was secretly in the background or
- 40:40was like, Ooh, next season. They're just like,
- 40:42this is probably not going to get a second season.
- 40:44We are just going to wrap this up and leave the
- 40:47characters in a place where they can pick up.
- 40:49But if the show doesn't get a second season.
- 40:54There's never going to be a, oh, but what, what,
- 40:56what would have happened? Yeah, exactly. Like
- 40:58the biggest, what would have happened is like,
- 41:00what would the spider do in the city? What would
- 41:03Ben and Janet do in their business? You know,
- 41:05who, who fills the power void? If this does get
- 41:09a second season, who do you, what classic Spider
- 41:11-Man villain do you want to see? 19, 1930s. Do
- 41:15you want to see Noir? I want a like steampunk
- 41:22Doc Ock. steampunk doc ock would be fucking cool
- 41:25and actually i think in the same way like a steampunk
- 41:27green goblin could play out pretty cool yeah
- 41:30yeah although i guess modern versions of green
- 41:33goblin have gotten more like tech i think this
- 41:35would be a great mysterio opportunity oh yeah
- 41:39he's always been my favorite so i'll always advocate
- 41:41for mysterio but this would be a good one because
- 41:44it would play really well with all the like smoke
- 41:47and mirrors kind of special effects things yeah
- 41:49for sure that'd be cool that would be really
- 41:52cool rhino would be a pretty cool one oh he's
- 41:56so good for like bank robbery shit and everything
- 41:59yeah yeah oh you could do craven as like a ringling
- 42:03brothers like barnum and bailey yeah that would
- 42:06be fun yeah i could like that too that and you
- 42:09could bring in rhino that way as one of his like
- 42:11instead of instead of him trying to hunt uh you
- 42:15know be the world's greatest hunter he's just
- 42:17trying to like get a menagerie of like freaks
- 42:19and like animal people to like take on the road
- 42:22that'd be cool oh i did like when nick cage was
- 42:25making fun of the the three of them in silvermane's
- 42:28office and he brought up that like 1930s movie
- 42:30freaks oh yeah the google gobble one of us one
- 42:33of us the leaper that would be a good one i don't
- 42:38know the leaper yeah he jumps Okay. He's a French
- 42:43guy who jumps. He's a French guy who jumps around.
- 42:46He was briefly seen in one of the Spider -Man
- 42:50movies. Was it Spider -Man or Avengers? Captain
- 42:53America. Captain America, yeah. Civil War. When
- 42:56they were on the boat or something. I don't know.
- 42:58Got it. He leaps around. He does parkour and
- 43:02kicks. Cool. Yep. He's such a dumb... But also
- 43:06French. What do you want me to say? The wall?
- 43:08Yeah, okay. Let's bring back the wall. He was
- 43:12just a brick wall. I mean, sure, why not? What
- 43:16would a noir Venom be like? Spider noir Venom
- 43:19be like? Full color. Mostly just because I want
- 43:25to see... Yes, make the black and white character
- 43:27full color. They'll never know. I would love
- 43:32the chance to see evil Nick Cage talk to normal
- 43:36Nick Cage. I mean, there'd be an interesting
- 43:38aspect to that. Like if you think about the sort
- 43:40of Tom Hardy venom instances that we've gotten
- 43:43to see, it's like, if you played some of that
- 43:45with him discussing things with himself and fighting
- 43:48this inner demon and that could be pretty cool
- 43:51actually. Yeah. I think there's more thematically
- 43:56appropriate. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're just going
- 44:00through the rogues gallery. Yeah. So, um, yeah,
- 44:04I think my favorites would be, rhino doc ock
- 44:09mysterio mysterio or maybe we get instead of
- 44:13doc ock the lizard and we kind of get that sort
- 44:15of like yeah that works uh intention to cure
- 44:19himself kind of keep that moving as he's looking
- 44:22for a cure right um but who knows do you think
- 44:27robbie gets spider powers well so that's what
- 44:29i'm curious about right like i made the joke
- 44:31about cirrhosis of the liver but like what would
- 44:34happen if you got like the antidote put into
- 44:38you yeah as i mean he got his powers from being
- 44:42bitten by the man spider so if does his blood
- 44:45give normal people powers but it seems like the
- 44:49antidote was concocted specifically just to erase
- 44:52the mutation yeah no it probably does nothing
- 44:55yeah i think it just isolates yeah isolates the
- 44:59neck yeah i'm just spitballing cool stuff that
- 45:01they could do Totally, yeah. I mean, the interesting
- 45:04and sad aspect of this is that we probably will
- 45:06never find out what they would do with the ability,
- 45:09you know? Or, you know, if this has good enough
- 45:11reviews, which it has done very well in that
- 45:14regard, I mean, Amazon, I don't know if they
- 45:16make any money on these kinds of things. Probably
- 45:18not. How do they quantify it? Nobody fucking
- 45:20knows. It's a black box. I mean, they run ads
- 45:24now, which I find infinitely annoying. Very,
- 45:28very annoying to break the flow of that show.
- 45:31if it did well enough in a, a claim kind of way,
- 45:35which it seems like there's no reason that they're,
- 45:38they couldn't then decide to make a movie. Like
- 45:40if they can sink $400 million into a TV show,
- 45:43they could probably sink $400 million into a
- 45:45movie, get some more real world data, you know?
- 45:49Yeah. I would go see a spider noir movie. Oh,
- 45:52hell yeah. I like it better as a serial. Yeah,
- 45:54I would much prefer $400 million for eight more
- 45:57episodes. Me too. Yeah. Then $400 million for
- 46:01an hour and a half. They'd get us a solid hour
- 46:0545. Yeah. But still, I'd rather have that long
- 46:09form. And I think Cage appreciated being able
- 46:11to stretch out this character. I do too. It's
- 46:15kind of cool to see as a guy who has exclusively
- 46:17been. movies you know embracing that one role
- 46:21for that one period of time i don't know i think
- 46:23it's kind of cool to see him in this and i'm
- 46:25excited that he's going to do uh mind oh not
- 46:30minor but uh the talks of him doing fifth season
- 46:34of true detective yeah right that would be really
- 46:37cool um has there like other than the initial
- 46:39rumor has there been any more talk about that
- 46:41i don't know last thing i saw was like it's all
- 46:45just like his people are talking to their people
- 46:48and like, we'll see what happens if it happens.
- 46:51Right. He did a good job in this. I think he's
- 46:54really over the top. He's a cartoon character.
- 46:56He's also very serious. He's Humphrey Bogart.
- 46:58I mean, it was cool. It was a fun experience.
- 47:01Yeah. I'm sad that it's done. It's going to be
- 47:04one of those shows that I will, I will rewatch
- 47:07this at least two more times. I feel like at
- 47:10least two. I really wish they would have released
- 47:12this weekly. i would i would fully agree i think
- 47:17we said it back in our second episode but you
- 47:19know that that like big cliffhanger of you know
- 47:22who got shot at the end of the episode and then
- 47:25immediately you're 20 seconds later you're watching
- 47:27it and it's like man fuck yeah it would have
- 47:29been fun to have to like think about it you know
- 47:31yeah yeah even though we probably would guess
- 47:34the correct answer maybe not sure but you know
- 47:37yeah i don't know i think that serialized television
- 47:41deserves to be watched in a paste release how
- 47:45did we not how we got all the way to the wrap
- 47:47up and we didn't even talk about the two idiot
- 47:51henchmen standing outside of the uh the laboratory
- 47:55before silvermane left oh yeah pudge and the
- 47:57other guy and they're just like i i think i got
- 48:00something in my teeth and he's like yeah you
- 48:02got something in your teeth he's like well does
- 48:03it make me look stupid yeah it makes you look
- 48:05stupid and they're like trying to figure it out
- 48:07he just sort of like sneaks by yeah i just love
- 48:11idiot henchmen those guys they're so good they're
- 48:15good they're good dopes i like when one of them's
- 48:17just sleeping in the car yeah every scene they're
- 48:21in they do a good job i i want to pay attention
- 48:24to them so i hope they survive to that shootout
- 48:27and they go on to work for some other big bad
- 48:30villain how many folks did uh the spider glass
- 48:34in this show because that was his go -to move
- 48:36it was web a bottle smash someone in the head
- 48:39with it Oh yeah. A good like three or four times.
- 48:42It was at least three. Yeah. I mean, that's a
- 48:45good classic move. Yeah. I've never had a bottle
- 48:48bashed into my brain, but like, I feel like it
- 48:51would not feel good and it would probably take
- 48:54me down. Mythbusters did this. It's not, it's
- 48:58not good. Your brain, your brain gets jostled
- 49:00bad. Yeah. I believe it. Glass bottles can actually
- 49:04put up with a lot of pain, but you know, glass
- 49:07bottles made out of sugar. Less so. Different.
- 49:10Yeah. If it's going to immediately explode. Yeah.
- 49:14But that's because he had that super force. Super
- 49:16force. Yeah. All right. Final thoughts. Last
- 49:19words. Good show. Go watch it. Yeah. Yeah. I
- 49:23agree. Thanks for going on this journey. We're
- 49:26going to be back at our normal cadence here coming
- 49:29up in July when we have Daryl back on for the
- 49:33beef episode, which is going to be great. beef
- 49:35uh if you were interested which is actually called
- 49:39what um i don't even remember uh time to kill
- 49:44nope that was that bad yeah we've done it um
- 49:46what was uh what was the hayden christiansen
- 49:50one again outcast outcast i had someone the other
- 49:54day i had someone the other day be like oh sean
- 49:57i was thinking about you the other day because
- 49:58i saw this nick cage movie that you probably
- 50:00haven't heard about i'm like but go on. It was
- 50:04called, it was like, it was called Outcast. I'm
- 50:06like, is that the one with Hayden Christians?
- 50:07He's like, yeah. I'm like, yeah, fucking seen
- 50:08it. Yeah. The idea, the audacity that anyone
- 50:13would come to us at this point and be like, I
- 50:14bet I know a Nick Cage movie that you don't know.
- 50:16It's like, I bet you don't. I bet you are thinking
- 50:20of one that I've already forgotten about. Guaranteed.
- 50:24I will remember it as you say it to me. Yeah.
- 50:26But I don't think about it. It takes up zero
- 50:30space in mine. Is it never on a Tuesday? Unless
- 50:33it's never on a Tuesday. No, you haven't. I do
- 50:36think about never on a Tuesday. I think that
- 50:38I think about that movie way more than I probably
- 50:40should. Yeah. Every once in a while, I'm on the
- 50:45cage match Reddit and just like talking shit
- 50:48and talking about cage stuff. And every so often,
- 50:51never on Tuesday comes up and I'm like, yes,
- 50:53what a dumb movie. I love that fucking piece
- 50:57of shit. So we'll be returning to that. Yeah.
- 51:02Back in action with the beef one, which I don't
- 51:05know. I need to look for a score to settle. I
- 51:08need to know. A score to settle. Boom. I did
- 51:09it. Yeah. Good job, Nick's brain. I knew it had
- 51:12something to do with beefing. Yeah. You got there.
- 51:14And it couldn't be a fart related joke. Beef?
- 51:17Beef? You think I've got beef? okay anyway thank
- 51:23you for supporting us thank you for listening
- 51:25and if you are interested in supporting us you
- 51:26can uh follow us on patreon .com slash cage match
- 51:29thank you to our sparkle buddies josh josie matt
- 51:31adam bill stewart and willow um cage dancers
- 51:35john freeman nathan john freeman nathan and cameron
- 51:40and to Bill Panks for our intro music. We are
- 51:44doing a Con Air showing at The Beacon in Seattle
- 51:46on June 27th at 7 o 'clock. You can find ticket
- 51:51information on our website at cagematch .fun.
- 51:55I will make sure I put that on there. Neat. We're
- 51:58holding you to that. Yeah. It's about time you
- 52:01finally do something for this show. I still have
- 52:03to finish that Marvel intro. That's going to
- 52:06be good. I think we've all got some work to do.
- 52:09Yeah. That's worse than saying NyQuil. No, NyQuil.
- 52:27NyQuil's great. I fucking love NyQuil. Yeah,
- 52:29I prefer Tussin. Have you ever robo -tripped?
- 52:32I've never robo -tripped. You should try it.
- 52:35You've talked about robo -tripping. I've never
- 52:37robo -tripped. You should. You should do it.
- 52:40You got nothing going on. You're not leaving
- 52:41the house today. Go get yourself some DM. Yeah.
- 52:45Put on your jammies or a robot costume. I highly
- 52:49recommend doing it dressed as a robot. Do I have
- 52:53a robot costume? I don't. I need a robot costume.
- 52:55What are you even doing with your life? You're
- 52:56what, like 42, 41? 41 for a couple more months.
- 53:01Yeah. Get yourself a robot costume. It's high
- 53:05time. Yeah. It is high time.