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The Positivity Episode · Millennial Mental Health Channel

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  Speaker 1: Eddie, have you I ever actually showed you my California
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  Speaker 1: Mexican voice?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: No, Welcome to MMHC, your go to mental health podcast.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Eddie Coreo, a licensed professional counselor.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm Justin Romano, a Board certified Child and Adolescent psychiatrist.
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  Speaker 2: We created MMHC to give listeners evidence based information directly
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  Speaker 2: from professionals who work in mental health.
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  Speaker 1: We're not influencers, We're not trying to sell you anything.
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  Speaker 1: We just want to bring love, empathy, and understanding of
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  Speaker 1: mental health into this world.
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  Speaker 2: And we really think that learning about mental health should
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  Speaker 2: be fun, interesting, and most importantly honest.
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  Speaker 1: So thanks for tuning in. This is a show by
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  Speaker 1: two millennials, but it is intended to be for everyone.
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  Speaker 2: We hope you enjoy the show.
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  Speaker 1: MMHC is a production of Speaker from iHeartMedia.
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  Speaker 2: I HEARTMA. Let's hear it. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, hey Holmes, welcome back from MMHC. Do A destination
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  Speaker 1: for this was pretty bad? Am I gonna get.
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  Speaker 2: You? Ever watched the Spike Kids? You sound like, Uh,
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  Speaker 2: which one's cheach and which one's charm?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Cheech is the Mexican guy Latino. Yeah, he's in Spike Kids. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: who else is in it? Uh? Machete Danny, Danny Tray.
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  Speaker 2: That's damn well.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that you immediately thought of Cheach tells me
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  Speaker 1: that I did something right.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, too offensive, I mean, that's up to you.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, I've got one Mexican guy on board with.
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  Speaker 2: It, so I think it's kind of funny. But that's
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  Speaker 2: exactly what I thought you were gonna do. I just
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  Speaker 2: need you to know that that's exactly where I thought
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  Speaker 2: it was going. Oh, you got me sweating. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what it was.
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  Speaker 1: I told you I was gonna take a bit of
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  Speaker 1: a hail Mary on this one before we started the episode,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because I like doing voices, but I'm always
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  Speaker 1: so nervous doing any non white voices. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: I figured we're gonna do it a fun episode today,
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  Speaker 1: a positive episode to figure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's do it.
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  Speaker 1: So welcome back to MMHC.
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  Speaker 2: Summer break's done. We took a little break. Yeah we're busy, guys.
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  Speaker 2: We got stuff going on.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a busy summer. Yeah, we've we've been busy.
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  Speaker 1: Me and my wife have had like something planned every
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  Speaker 1: weekend for the past two and a half months and
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  Speaker 1: it's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I'm tired. Hell yeah, bro, you got something else tomorrow,
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  Speaker 2: so you're yeah, you guys are staying busy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, going to Vegas tomorrow. Backstreet Boys, Baby.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do it. Fucking cool. The videos I've seen of
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  Speaker 2: it that like it. It's crazy how much like music
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  Speaker 2: can like just lodge itself in your brain somewhere. There's
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  Speaker 2: songs that I haven't thought about in in forever, but
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  Speaker 2: then I'm watching people's videos or I'm watching tiktoks or
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  Speaker 2: the performances, and the words come back and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: holy shit, like I haven't thought about this in so long. Man.
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  Speaker 2: That's cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're pretty excited. We've actually tried to intentionally not
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  Speaker 1: watch the videos so that it's all gonna be one
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  Speaker 1: big superse.
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  Speaker 2: Did you did you already say on the on the
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  Speaker 2: recording where it's at, or like what it's.
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  Speaker 1: In the sphere, in the sphere, it's gonna be cool
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  Speaker 1: first time there. We're really excited.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'll see you there. Yeah, I'll check tickets
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  Speaker 2: while we record this.
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  Speaker 1: It would be so funny just the fog comes up
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  Speaker 1: and then Eddie comes in and out of nowhere, dressed
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  Speaker 1: in all white.
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  Speaker 2: I think I have enough clothes. That's all.
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  Speaker 1: What I had to buy clothes that.
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  Speaker 2: Was my white jeans are at the dry cleaner. Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, we are talking positivity today, just because it feels
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  Speaker 1: like we've been kind of downers lately. We've been talking
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  Speaker 1: a lot about some heavy stuff about some things going
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  Speaker 1: on in the country and politics, and we're like, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, we just need a palette cleanser. So we
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  Speaker 1: chewed on some ginger. We wrote up this this episode script.
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  Speaker 1: But it also brings up a really good point that
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  Speaker 1: in our lives in twenty twenty five, our phones give
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  Speaker 1: us a constant stream of negative information, and plus we
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  Speaker 1: get a constant stream of bad news from the twenty
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  Speaker 1: four hour news cycle. It's because negativity sells, and it's
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  Speaker 1: what gets the most views, it's what gets the most
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  Speaker 1: eyes on it. So we wanted to take some time
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  Speaker 1: to be intentionally positive, a little lighthearted, maybe even a
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  Speaker 1: little bit, you know, borderline racist with the cheech Marin impression.
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  Speaker 2: Is that his last name, cheech Marin? Yeah, cheech Marine
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  Speaker 2: If you will, I just let it even know I
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  Speaker 2: had a full name. That's so funny.
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  Speaker 1: He just thought he was Cheech.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he's like Chare.
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  Speaker 1: He just has one name, Cheech.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy because he he's been in like speaking of
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  Speaker 2: like Mexican American h He was in Spy Kids, right, which,
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  Speaker 2: like now looking back, was a very Latino movie, like
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  Speaker 2: the whole the whole cast is like super Latino Antonio. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember who the wife was. That's okay, we
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  Speaker 2: need yeah who was it anyway? Yeah, like but Cheech
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  Speaker 2: was in there. She was also a character on the
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  Speaker 2: George Lopez show.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah Grandpa right, yeah, uh no.
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  Speaker 2: He he was the who George and Benny thought could
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  Speaker 2: be his dad around the same time. Yeah. Yeah, so anyway, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: random random, let's see him throughout like media and stuff
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  Speaker 2: growing up.
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  Speaker 1: Even in researching this show, I even tried to like google, hey,
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  Speaker 1: what's some like positive news stories, and you know, all
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  Speaker 1: of the stuff that came up was just like fluff pieces,
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  Speaker 1: like stuff that wasn't really like positive good news of
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  Speaker 1: things going on in this world. It was like, watch
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  Speaker 1: this video of this hippo being sassy at the zoom
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  Speaker 1: and it was like, okay, like give me some real
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  Speaker 1: good news here, but it looks like like you found
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  Speaker 1: some good ones even in the world of psychology.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let me run through some positive stories in the
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  Speaker 2: psych world. In the psychology world. So the first one
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  Speaker 2: I found was that there's a school in India that
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  Speaker 2: has been incorporating daily positive affirmations to help build student
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  Speaker 2: emotional strength and focus. So they do this altogether every
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  Speaker 2: morning before school starts. The next thing I found was
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  Speaker 2: that the twenty twenty five World Happiness Report from Oxford's
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  Speaker 2: well Being Research Center, it's a long one, emphasizes the
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  Speaker 2: psychological benefits of communal dining. So Sharon meals is strongly
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  Speaker 2: correlated with better mental and physical health, stronger social bonds,
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  Speaker 2: and lower instances of depression. I have a friend Tim,
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  Speaker 2: who is a chef, and he I remember him mentioning
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  Speaker 2: this like a while ago, like how much like food,
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  Speaker 2: Not this specifically, but just like kind of in passing
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about something. He just mentions, how like sharing
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  Speaker 2: a meal together is like one of the most important
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  Speaker 2: things you can do. So it's kind of cool to
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  Speaker 2: hear this from Oxford's well Being Research Center. There's also
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  Speaker 2: research published in the Social Psychological and Personality Science that found,
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  Speaker 2: after following university students for three years that engaging and
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  Speaker 2: meaningful face to face interactions and hence well being and
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  Speaker 2: reduced loneliness. So in a world where a lot of
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  Speaker 2: us are on our phones, speaking of which a lot
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  Speaker 2: of stags, do you know that thirty one states have
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  Speaker 2: implemented some type of legislature or law with cell phone bands,
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  Speaker 2: either starting this school year or the next school year.
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  Speaker 1: Yay thirty one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, at least from the Google search I did the
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  Speaker 2: other day. But yeah, like thirty one, yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 2: so yeah, I mean, in a world where we're in
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  Speaker 2: our phones a lot. I was at the doctor's office
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  Speaker 2: the other day and I got there a little early,
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  Speaker 2: and I checked in and all that, and I was
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  Speaker 2: waiting for them to call me and or call me back,
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  Speaker 2: and I had this I was like, I'm just gonna
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  Speaker 2: try to sit here without my phone. And I tried to.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of hard, man, Like, I'm I'm not much
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  Speaker 2: better than anybody else. It is tough. So anyway, and
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  Speaker 2: in a world where we're in our phones a lot,
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  Speaker 2: face to face meaningful interactions can be really helpful. And
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  Speaker 2: then the last one was that every day spontaneous pro
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  Speaker 2: social acts, so things like helping the neighbor helping someone
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  Speaker 2: in need. Just just being kind to people around you
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  Speaker 2: have been found to boost emotional well being. And this
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  Speaker 2: is more than scheduled things. So if like, oh, I
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  Speaker 2: was already going to go do this for my family
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  Speaker 2: member or for my friend, it's helpful. But just doing
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  Speaker 2: things like spontaneously has been shown to be good for
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  Speaker 2: your emotional well being, which I think is cool. Random
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  Speaker 2: maxim kindness, Yeah for.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, ding your like good deed for the day. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I like you point of how you tried to sit
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  Speaker 1: there and not use your phone. Doesn't that just show
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  Speaker 1: how much our brains have become rewired to do it
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  Speaker 1: all the time, to crave that phone. Like I noticed
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  Speaker 1: that if there's any space, if there's any time where
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  Speaker 1: I'm not doing anything, my automatic reaction is grab the phone,
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  Speaker 1: grab the phone.
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  Speaker 2: With our school doing the cell phone band this year
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  Speaker 2: and be wanting to try to be a good staff member,
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  Speaker 2: I've already I don't know if I mentioned this to
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  Speaker 2: you or on the show, but I I bought these
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  Speaker 2: little like almost like what detectives would use, like a
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  Speaker 2: little flip book where you just write notes. I bought
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  Speaker 2: it because usually I'm out there with my phone and
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  Speaker 2: I'll like look at my phone to pass the time
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  Speaker 2: or whatever when sudents you're passing. But sometimes the kid
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  Speaker 2: will ask me like, hey, can you help me with this?
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  Speaker 2: Or can I check in with you later or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: and I pull out my phone, put a reminder on
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  Speaker 2: my calendar. Cool, good to go. I'm going to try
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  Speaker 2: to not have my phone in me. So I bought
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  Speaker 2: these little books so that I could write the notes
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  Speaker 2: down and then I'm just gonna leave my phone in
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  Speaker 2: my office and we'll go nice. So, yeah, we're gonna try. Man,
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be. I've seen a lot on the TikTok.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of kids have gone back to school this
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  Speaker 2: week different states, and I'm seeing a lot of reactions
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  Speaker 2: from teachers and from teens just posting on social on
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  Speaker 2: TikTok of like I hate it, this is the greatest
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  Speaker 2: thing ever. This is the worst we'll see. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know it's gonna be. It's gonna be something I was
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  Speaker 2: like asking my patients on my young kids.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like, hey, are you really excited to go
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  Speaker 1: back to school? Kind of sarcastically, And I don't think
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  Speaker 1: I've had maybe one say like yeah, I love school.
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  Speaker 1: Most of them are like, no, I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: go back.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know if Colorado or Wyoming are doing any
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  Speaker 2: kind of cell phone rulings?
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  Speaker 1: Definitely not in Wyoming, but I'm not sure about Colorado.
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  Speaker 2: You know which one was interesting that I was a
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  Speaker 2: little surprised by. It was Texas. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, in Colorado, school districts are required to implement policies
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  Speaker 1: limiting students cell phone use by July twenty twenty six,
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  Speaker 1: So it's coming not this year, but.
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  Speaker 2: Thirty one states man. That's wild, that's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: I think it just got to a critical mass, like
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  Speaker 1: it was just such a big problem that something had
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  Speaker 1: to break.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's one of those where like we
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  Speaker 2: can start off really strict with our rules or with
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  Speaker 2: you know, whatever we're going to do, and then if
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  Speaker 2: we want to pay it back, we can. But it's
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  Speaker 2: harder to, like like we've kind of been doing, start
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  Speaker 2: with something that's a little more lax, and then try
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  Speaker 2: to like ramp it up. You get the reactions that
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  Speaker 2: we're getting now. But I think if we would have
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  Speaker 2: started a little more strict and then try to pull
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  Speaker 2: it back, maybe it would be easier on the youths.
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  Speaker 2: But it is what it is. We'll give it full youths.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, get the cats out of the bag. And you
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  Speaker 1: look at everywhere. It's got different numbers and different sources.
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  Speaker 1: And if the cell phone companies just were honest with
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  Speaker 1: us and told us what the numbers were, we would
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  Speaker 1: get more accurate data. But most accurate. It looks like
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  Speaker 1: kids are on their phones average about eight hours per.
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  Speaker 2: Day, Yeah, which is a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Which is a lot, and a lot of them when
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  Speaker 1: you talk about them, surprisingly a lot of them are
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  Speaker 1: saying like, I'd like to be on it less. I
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  Speaker 1: would like to not have to be on this all
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  Speaker 1: the time. So some of them are okay with some
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  Speaker 1: of the screen limits of not being able to use
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  Speaker 1: them in school. Yeah, So we got some discussion questions
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  Speaker 1: for today, keeping with the positive theme, what's something positive
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  Speaker 1: going on right now? Just again your personal life.
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  Speaker 2: We'll go back to work next week. I say it
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  Speaker 2: as a positive because I've kind of been ready to
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  Speaker 2: go back to work all summer, after like two or
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  Speaker 2: three weeks. And again, I had that doctor's appointment recently,
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  Speaker 2: and I told the doctor and I've talked about it before.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just someone who kind of runs anxious. We just
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  Speaker 2: kind of have a little bit of a hard time
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  Speaker 2: if I don't know what's going to happen next, and
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  Speaker 2: you get probably a little more stress than I need to.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm telling the doctor this, like, oh yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 2: just I've found that over the last few years, I'll
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  Speaker 2: sometimes have like physical symptoms I think related to stress
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  Speaker 2: and anxiety. But again, I've found that like the more
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  Speaker 2: that I go to the doctor or I talk to
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  Speaker 2: myself about like, oh this is just because I'm stressed,
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  Speaker 2: the better it gets, and like it gets, it resolves
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  Speaker 2: pretty quickly. So I'm telling them all this because this
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  Speaker 2: is the first time seeing this doctor and he's like, okay, listening,
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  Speaker 2: and I forgot how we got on the topic. He's like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: so work, You're going back to work next week. Do
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  Speaker 2: you think that's going to negatively impact your mental health?
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, WHOA, Like, I know I say
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  Speaker 2: that I'm anxious and stuff, but I love my job,
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  Speaker 2: Like it's great, all the things that I enjoyed a lot.
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  Speaker 2: It's fulfilling, it's all the things. So I think, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited to go back to work. I was reflecting
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  Speaker 2: on things that I get to do and that Kevin
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  Speaker 2: and I do in terms of travel and things that
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  Speaker 2: we do together. The trips we've taken just this summer,
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  Speaker 2: the trips we've taken even the last few years together
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  Speaker 2: has been awesome. I'm just getting to do that and
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  Speaker 2: my adult life is something that I don't even think
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  Speaker 2: I just thought of, So it's really cool to get
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  Speaker 2: to do that stuff together. I fixed the exhaust fan
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  Speaker 2: in our bathroom today. That was fucking cool. Like, I'm
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  Speaker 2: so hyped about that. I texted Kevy too, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm hyped. It like just kind of went out yesterday
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  Speaker 2: and then I just started to kind of slowly look
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  Speaker 2: up how to do it. And then I only went
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  Speaker 2: to home people once, so like that's like, right, hey, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you get in. I don't know, just some good stuff.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a good summer. Things that we get to
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  Speaker 2: do as adults has been cool. All of the above,
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  Speaker 2: I guess is where I'm at. But what do you got?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but a man one trip to home depot.
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  Speaker 2: That's huge.
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  Speaker 1: It's fun being able to like fix stuff. I think
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  Speaker 1: I may have mentioned in the past that like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: my dryer went out when we were living in Omaha,
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  Speaker 1: and my wife was like, either call someone or fix it.
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  Speaker 1: So I was like, ah, I'll try and fix it.
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  Speaker 1: And then I was like, I know nothing about dryers,
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  Speaker 1: and then you start looking up on YouTube, and before
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  Speaker 1: I know it, I'm like, yeah, I think the Tenser
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  Speaker 1: Pulley went out and we got to order some parts.
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  Speaker 2: Our washer went out a year or two ago, and
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  Speaker 2: we fixed with a single piece from Amazon just by
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  Speaker 2: watching videos.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Cool? Yeah? What else you got though? What else I'd
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  Speaker 2: say for you? You got to talk about your personal life.
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  Speaker 2: I rambled on and on.
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  Speaker 1: Do you fixing the bathroom fan is all the joy
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  Speaker 1: I need in my life?
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  Speaker 2: It's loud. Yeah, this new one is prime, It's Optimus Prime.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I would say this past weekend, I just had
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of time with my family, me, my brother's family,
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  Speaker 1: my parents. We got to go to Grand Lake in
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  Speaker 1: Colorado and we stayed at a house and all hung
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  Speaker 1: out for a couple of days. And it's just that
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  Speaker 1: stuff is so good for me.
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  Speaker 2: I love just.
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  Speaker 1: Spending time with the family and being around people I love.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really lucky that I live like fifteen minutes for
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  Speaker 1: my parents. I live like ten minutes from my brother.
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  Speaker 1: We're all super close. So I would say that's that's
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  Speaker 1: the thing that I'm so thankful for.
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  Speaker 2: It's nice.
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  Speaker 1: It's nice to be able to go on vacation with
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  Speaker 1: each other and enjoy it. You hear so many people
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  Speaker 1: talking about time with their family, and it's always like,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta go spend time with my family.
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  Speaker 2: What about professional life? What do you got going? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Well, is it time to break the news to.
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  Speaker 2: The mental heads?
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  Speaker 1: To the audience out here, that's what we're calling you
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  Speaker 1: fans now, hope to mental head But Eddie and I
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  Speaker 1: actually got an offer from a company called Sword Health
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  Speaker 1: to make some mental health educational videos and so we
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: get to actually like fly to Portugal and go to
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: their recording studio and record this. And so I'm pumped.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: I get to spend some time with my good friend Eddie,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: see a new play, start a new project, do something
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: that's totally different for us. So I'm really pumped on that.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: That's probably the biggest thing going on professional wise, how
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: about you that.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: I mean other than that, because that's a huge thing
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: for us. Yeah, I mean I was on the news
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: again the other day talking about back to school kids
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: and here in the Portland area, so that was pretty cool.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: I recently taken over as president of the Organ Counseling Association.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: It's not my year long.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Term, so mister President.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of changes happening. I think we've talked
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: about it, but just our Medicare, Medicaid, the organ Health
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Plan has made a lot of changes recently. They made
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: a huge change as of the thirty first of July
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: basically saying that they're no longer going to reimburse non
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: contracted providers. So basically what that means if you're not
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: paneled with Oregon Health Plan for individual therapy, they're not
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: going to reimburse you anymore. And it's it's tough because
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: I think the company Care Oregon, they've made a lot
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: of changes six seven years ago that they were the
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: exception rather than the rule. They used to allow non
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: licensed providers to build for OHP Medicare and Medicaid. That's
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: not very standard across the country. So that was kind
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: of a nice gesture, but it was because of the need.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: And so they've made a lot of these changes and
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: now they're kind of going back on them, and I
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: won't say like going back. I think it's now time
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: for them to make a change. But I think the
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: way that they've rolled out has been really fast, and
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: it's hard for people because there's a lot of people
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: who have their providers who are maybe not contracted with
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: the insurance and so we'll see. That's sorry, that's not
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: as positive. But I'm excited to be helping the providers
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: across the state just try to get things worked out.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I think with the organ counsting association with
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: work and just getting to spread the words that we
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: know and the knowledge we have, I think has been
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: really cool. I mean, over the last five years, just
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: to get to do that, it's pretty cool.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: And that kind of work touches so many lives. It
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: really helps people get the therapy that they need. So
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I really admire you that you're doing that and taking.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Oh we'll see how it goes.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: What do you feel like is the activity in life
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: that recharges your batteries.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: The laying around and doing nothing. I think Kevin and I
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: are pretty good at that when we need a break.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I told Justin I've been reading a lot this summer,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: so that's been super cool and helpful. Just taking breaks.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's life goes pretty fast and sometimes we're
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: super go go go, So I think that take breaks
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: is helpful. I feel you.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I'm in the same boat too, where it's like over
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: the summer, we are just busy, busy, busy, busy, busy,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: and it's nice to be able to take a break.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: And specifically, I love watching old movies that I really
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: enjoyed growing up, so like sitting and watching The Water Boy,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: watching Joe Dirt, watching ace Ventura, like all these movies
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: that most adults probably wouldn't find that funny or good,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: but I just loved them growing up for some reason.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: It's fun to go and revisit them and just kind
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: of get reminded of a simpler time. That's something I
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: really enjoy.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: What do you like to do with your friends? You
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: know that thing about the communal eating, like really like
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: stuck out to me. Yeah, I think you know. We've
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: had we had friends recently, our friends Brandon Leslie, my
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: friends from high school. They came and visited us a
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: few months ago, and just get to take them out
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: to eat and places together and give showing them places
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: that we like to go eat. I had a friend
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: text me recently, I'm going to meet up with them
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: for coffee here soon, and I think their text was like,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: you pick the place, you know all the best places
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: in the area. That kind of stuff is, like, Kevin,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: I really like to try new places, even if it's
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: just the communal eatings, just me and her just trying
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: new places together. I think it's cool we have with
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: friends too. Just again, I think I get it from Tim,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: just the idea of like communal eating. We went to
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: LA about a year ago for a friend's wedding and
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: we met up with him at a restaurant that him
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: and his now wife used to like to go to
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: and they lived in LA and it was just a
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: bunch of us friends from high school and he was like, Hey,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: do you care if I order for the table, like
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: if the food will be here when you get here.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't give a shit you order. I
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: trust you like you I trust you with food. So
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: that that kind of stuff, I think is one thing
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I like to do with friends. We're just sitting around
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: and bullshit in thinking about old times. I was with
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: a lot of high school friends recently, and so yeah,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I think those those two things.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny how like the older you get, the
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: less you need to like do something. Just like sitting
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: around and talking with friends is like the main attraction
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: is the best part.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: What else do you got for friends?
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I also really love playing jack box games with friends.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I love plenty.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: It's so much fun and you get to bring out
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: such humor and people that you don't always get to see.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: And so we've done that quite a few times where
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: we have friends over and we're like, okay, let's break
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: out the jackbox games and it's always a riot, like
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: to the point where you're laughing so hard that you
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: can barely breathe, and it's just.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: That's a that's a grad school throwback, man.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I know when COVID hit, we didn't together with all
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: the optometry school kids. It was so much fun.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I remember we play on like Cush's Xbox. He got it,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: so we can play it. Well, you switched a living
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: by each other.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have any interests that has like nothing
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: to do with your profession anything that people would be like, huh,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that about you.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: That's that's cool that you like.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: That kind of thing.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I've really enjoyed reading the last few years. Yeah, ever
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: since I got a kindle. The books have just kind
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: of stacked, which has been cool and flying through them. Man, Yeah,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: I think that's been cool because I think when the
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: summer started, I was I was behind on my goal
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: for the year, and now that summer's almost over, I'm
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: caught back up, which is quite a lot of books
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: to read to get caught up. But yeah, I think
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: reading has been something that's been cool. I would say,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: like they try new food stuff, but like as a
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: as a larger gentleman, I think it's pretty obvious that
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I like to eat.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: But everybody loves to eat too.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I think it's cool to try new places, especially around Beaverton,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Portland area with Kevy has it's been cool. Let's go
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: with those two things. Yeah, what do you got?
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: I am fascinated by like renewable energy videos and so
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: like I am constantly watching YouTube videos on solar panel technologies,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: battery technologies, electric vertical takeoff and launch vehicles and like that,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: like side of the cool electrification tech. I just I
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: find it fascinating And then my wife makes fun of
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: me all the time because I'm always like watching prefab
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: home videos.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: You know. Okay, I forgot who told I think Kevy's
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: sister told her this a while back that like guys
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: and YouTube, they always have like the random, special interesting
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: that they'll watch, And that made me think of, like
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: my YouTube thing right now is all smooth jazz with
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: like a backdrop coffee shop on Beyonce Plane, because that's
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: all like read when I have that on, Yeah, we'll
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: watch like DJ sets they just have like oh yeah, fun,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: they'll do like a barrier hip hop R and B.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: And then I really like this channel called pack Hackers
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: where it's like all about travel stuff like gear and
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: things like that. So yeah, maybe those things too cool.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Who's someone you really admire?
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Hmm, I'll probably give the cop out answers not a
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: cop out, but I think my parents for sure. I
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: think of like every time I go back to the
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Bay Area, I see how much like things have changed
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: and how like it's really expensive. But I think the
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: the lucky unfortunate part is like how much my friends
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: and I relate on like we all live here and
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: our families live here because our immigrant parents at some
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: point like took a chance and just moved to Milpitas, California,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: shout out Milpitas, and so like I think for them
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: to kind of come to this country, figure things out,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: get together, have this house and life and things that
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: they have and do now, and they travel a bunch more.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: And even if it's just to see me and my sister,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: and they have like the fridge is full of Trader
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Joe stuff, which is like, we never had that shit
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: when we were younger. So like that's one where I'm like, well,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: what the hell, But I get it. But yeah, just
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: to get them to get to see them kind of
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: live their lives and do things that they like to do,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I think it's super cool. Now.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny to see your parents go through different
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: stages of life as they retire, as they get older,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: as the kids move out of the house, and what
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: they gravitate towards.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Rot.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Even before we started the episode, I was thinking about this.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, my mom, you know, not to
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: give the cop out answer of what you already said. Yeah,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: but if she grew up in a household that wasn't
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: always the most emotionally sensitive, and instead of letting that
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: pull her down, she learned a lot about it. She
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: overcame it. It's like the movie It stops with us,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: like she stopped that trauma and she learned from all
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: the mistakes of her parents instead of perpetuating a lot
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: of the mistakes from her parents. She's brilliant. She was
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: like the top of her nursing class. She really instilled
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: in me an admiration and a respect for women, which
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I am so glad that I have. So boy, yeah,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: a big shout out to my mom. I think she's
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: an incredible woman.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I'll let you ask the next question. This one's for you, Eddie.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: What's something you admire about our country?
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: I think, even when faced with adversity, and there's still
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: a lot of people who don't take no for an
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: answer and feel like they care about the well being
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: of the country for people beyond them, not just for them,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: but for other people. And I think that's important. It
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: helps me keep going. I think about like the teens
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: that we work with. Teens get a shitty rap. They
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: always have. I mean, our parents when they were teens,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: their generation got shipped on the generation before them. When
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: we were teens, we got shipped on. Teens just get
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: shit on, for lack of a better phrase. But they
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: kind of keep trying to figure things out and I
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: think that's that's one of my favorite things about working
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: with teams. So we'll do those the younger generations always,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: and then just the amount of people that don't let
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: bullshit stop them, because there's a lot of bullshit. What
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: about you Just.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: The art and the music in this country and the
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: things that the people are capable of creating, and the
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: creativity that in America, we have lots of opportunities to
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: express ourselves through art, and I think it's such a
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: powerful way to change minds in a powerful way to
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: make this world a better place. So I think it's
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: a cool thing for us as Americans. Yeah, along those
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: same lines of like what music are you into right now?
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Who's who your top artists?
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I'm all over the place to music like there's there's
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: just so I don't know. I kevios is like you
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: listen to the same songs, but it's like whenever I
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: get some new ones on the I like to playlist
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: on Spotify. I kind of tend to just start from
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: the top and work my way down and and everything.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: I think going home and going to a couple of
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: weddings and just hearing a lot of just like throwback music.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: One song that's really stuck out to me recently by
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Cooling the Gang Ladies night Man. That song is so good,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: like it's you know a song I'm talking about right, I.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Don't know if I do if maybe if I heard.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: It, but you'll have to look it up. I wouldn't
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: do it any justice. But like cool in the Gang. Uh,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at my thing right now. Some Luther Van Dross.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: He you know, I got him like some new addition.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: I really liked some of those, like older songs that
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: like either I I liked when I was in high
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: school because I heard him, like, oh this is really good,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: or I hear now like Temptations. I really like the
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Temptations when I was younger, and like recently it's been
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: a TikTok sound. They used one of their songs treat
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: like a Lady Temptations that was good, new edition all
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: this stuff, but like that's been coming up. My boy
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Colleeds dropping a new song tonight. I'm just yeah, just
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: a little bit of everything. It's kind of always been
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: what my iPod looked like back in the day.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Dude, you got great taste in music.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: All over the place. We're all over the place.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Good, especially like that old school R and B like
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: the Temptations and stuff that they had so much talent
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: and they would they were so good together.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, what'd you got to.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Top right now? Or I went on a big billy
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: strings kick the bluegrass artist.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: He's awesome.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: And then there's a local band which I've never really
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: ever gotten like way into a local band, but this
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: band out of Greeley, Colorado, called the Burrows, and they
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: kick ass. They're a funk band. They're so much fun
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: to listen to. So as much as I can promote
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: the Burrows, because I think they should be on like
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: the Grammy level, like competing for Best Funk Album because
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: they are so talented, I just can't stop listening to him.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Like so they are so much fun. And that's the
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: thing I like about that kind of music and that
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: funk music is it just puts you in a good mood.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Recently, one of the weddings that I went to, my
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: friend was giving me shit to Kevy like he was like,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: speaking of like local band. There's a band when I
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: was growing up called the hold Up. They're from San Jose, California,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: and they're like a white guy reggae band. I like
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: really liked their songs. And I don't know how he
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: got on the topic, but I remember my friend he
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: was like he told Kevy, he's like yeah, and he
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: used to talk to talk about them, like he's like,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: you know, like Revolution, like like the big name reggae band,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, they're kind of like them, but they're like
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: from San Jose, Like I really hyped them up back
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: in the day. I fucked with the hold up man,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: like they they made some good jams you were speaking of,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: like some I don't know, like some just like Vibe Music,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Lake Street Dive are you familiar with Yeah, dude, they're
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: like my my like Caucasian funky music man. Anyway, I
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: just had to shout them out too, because I really,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I don't even know what kind of music, but it's
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: good for sure. Have you listened to the song Hypotheticals?
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: I can't think of it off the top of my head.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Put that on, turn the speaker up, and just just
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: feel it. Like it's one of those songs that I
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: I gotta like, I gotta turn it up a little
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: bit when I listen to it. Nice you got it? Yeah?
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Music great? Thank you? Thanks for bringing up the question,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I got to talk to music more.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Maybe we should do a whole music episode. Yeah, maybe
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: we should even do like best depressing songs best.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't do that though. I've never I've
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: never been someone that listens to sad songs when I'm sad.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: I know I had friends like that growing up that
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: would try to get me too, but I just never
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I never did that.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: You think, yeah, well, how about last question, who's your
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: dream guest? If you get anyone on the show.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: This is gonna be sound so lame, but I promise
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: it's kind of cool. I think it's like for a
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: long time, and I even tried. I think I told
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: you this, like I've reached out to like their agents.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: I really wanted to get either Darren Waller or Max
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Crosby on the show. Ye both. Darren Waller's not a
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Las Vegas Raider anymore, but Max Crosby is. But they've
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: both been very vocal about that her journey with addiction
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: and just how much like they've gone through rehab and
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: just you know they failed come back, Phil come back
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: like Darren Waller's story. If you've never heard, it's like
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: pretty intense in terms of like Georgia Tech, when he
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: was in college, in and out of the drug and
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: alcohol protocol. Same thing when he made it to the league,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Max Goana to rehab, So yeah, I'll go with them.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I would say Selena Gomez has always been one of
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: our top targets. It was what two years ago we
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: said she would be on in five years, so we
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: got time. And then I would say Jim Carrey. Jim
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Carrey would be He was like a father figure growing up,
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  Speaker 1: and I loved his movies. I just thought he was
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  Speaker 1: the man and the funniest man on earth. And I
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  Speaker 1: know that he's really struggled with some mental health stuff
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  Speaker 1: and his mindset has changed so much, and hearing quotes
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  Speaker 1: about him and he's like, you know, everyone wants money
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  Speaker 1: and fame, but when you find they get it, you
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  Speaker 1: realize that it's not everything. So yeah, I love that
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  Speaker 1: he learned a lot throughout his life and his mindset
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  Speaker 1: changed and he wasn't afraid to just walk away and
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  Speaker 1: say like I don't want this life anymore. I think
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  Speaker 1: I think that makes him a really cool and interesting person.
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  Speaker 1: And I think I had mentioned a while back that
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  Speaker 1: one time while I was watching The Grinch. I tried
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  Speaker 1: to slide into his DMS and I was like, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: watching The Grinch, think you're brilliant. Want to come on
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  Speaker 1: the show. Never heard anything back. Yeah, so, Jim, if
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  Speaker 1: you're hearing this, or if anyone knows Jim out there,
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  Speaker 1: tell him. We'd love to have him.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think we've been smiling the whole time. So
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  Speaker 2: thanks for bringing up a positive episode for us. We
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