Latest / The Mental Healness Podcast / Why It's Hard Dating After You Leave a Toxic Relationship
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- 0:00What is going on? Beautiful, beautiful folks.
- 0:04Lee Hammock, your favorite diagnosed narcissist here and
- 0:07we're talking about dating after a toxic relationship, dating
- 0:12after narcissistic abuse, dating after just anything like that's
- 0:19what we're talking about today, y'all?
- 0:20And I know a lot of people ask me this question like Lee, why
- 0:22is dating so hard after you leave a narcissist?
- 0:25Why is dating why? Why is the next the first
- 0:28relationship so tough? Like why, when will I be ready
- 0:30to date da da da blah blah blah. I get it, I get it.
- 0:35I promise you, I understand that.
- 0:38I get it can be a frustrating dynamic, especially when you're
- 0:40leaving a narcissist, when you're getting out of a toxic
- 0:43relationship, when you're finally, when you finally feel
- 0:46like you are starting to heal. Now you got to deal with a
- 0:50narcissist right now you have to deal with a toxic person.
- 0:53That's what goes on right here. So that's what today we talked
- 0:55about taking the necessary steps to be ready for your next
- 0:59relationship to to know when you're ready to start dating, to
- 1:03know when you like to know and also to recognize just in case
- 1:08you might be dealing with a narcissist right, 'cause some
- 1:10people out there, you might get back-to-back narcissist.
- 1:12I thought we talked about this yesterday or yesterday's live,
- 1:15right? I know we talked about this in
- 1:18yesterday's live to do this type of stuff right here.
- 1:22We we talked about understanding narcissistic abuse and knowing
- 1:26when you're ready, knowing when things go in your direction.
- 1:30And like I said, also back-to-back to back like Kobe,
- 1:33like Kobe Bryant or whatnot. If you're just joining the live,
- 1:35make sure to hit that thumbs up button.
- 1:37Y'all hit the thumbs up and also drop a comment.
- 1:39We're gonna do a question and answer at the end today.
- 1:41We'll do a special question and answer after I finish the live
- 1:44topic. I'll put the link in the
- 1:46comments and it will have a couple people come on and ask
- 1:49questions directly. If y'all like doing it right
- 1:51there, So what I'll do. And like, you don't have to turn
- 1:54your camera on. You don't have to turn again.
- 1:56You don't have to turn your camera on, but you can if you
- 1:59want to. So I'll drop the link right
- 2:01here. So y'all can, you can actually
- 2:03hop on the waiting room now. So I don't see what people hop
- 2:05on. But yeah, y'all, the first thing
- 2:09you want to do, like if you're terrified to start dating again
- 2:12because you're afraid that you'll just attract another
- 2:14narcissist, that fear is really your and your intuition trying
- 2:19to guard you, trying to protect you.
- 2:21It's like warning signs, right? It's like that fear that you
- 2:26feel, it really is like noticing A brightly colored snake in the
- 2:30wild, right? You know brightly colored things
- 2:34in nature, typically you want to avoid them, right?
- 2:37Like that brightly colored frog. It's pretty, but it's a poison
- 2:40dart frog. It's got the beautiful designs.
- 2:43That brightly colored lime green arachnid.
- 2:47You might want to stay away from it because it might bite your
- 2:50ass, right? It might be, but it might be a
- 2:51bitey animal. I used the word bitey.
- 2:54It might be very bitey, right? So you might, you might want to
- 2:58stay away from those type of those type of situation right
- 3:02there, right? Because that helps keep you
- 3:03safe, that helps protect you in the long run when you're dealing
- 3:07with highly narcissistic types of people, stay away from
- 3:10brightly colored narcissists. You know what I mean?
- 3:13The brightly colored ones, the ones who dress nice and stuff
- 3:17like that, right? That's it.
- 3:19In that situation too. Stay away from the brightly
- 3:21colored, highly colored, narcissistic people, right?
- 3:25And that's like what's going on right here in situations.
- 3:28So it's like being able to detect yourself, like
- 3:30understanding how that works, right?
- 3:34But like today, we're going to help you move into like move,
- 3:38move from being paralyzed to being empowered, to making your
- 3:41own choices, to not being afraid of walking away and using the
- 3:45word no. Because that's what ends up
- 3:47happening right there. Y'all So many people get
- 3:49conditioned to to be to be afraid of using the word no that
- 3:53it can stifle you. It can absolutely stifle you
- 3:57'cause you're afraid to use the word no.
- 3:58You get stuck. You got like if you get out
- 4:01there and get ready, you have to be ready to use the word no,
- 4:05like you like the word no has to be in your book bag.
- 4:13It has to be you can't you look you, you got your purse, you got
- 4:17your wallet, you got your shoes, you got your underwear on.
- 4:20You got your shirt. You also have to pack the word
- 4:23no as you go. You got to be, I'm sorry.
- 4:34You have to be able to pack the word no as you go.
- 4:38Like seriously. Because if you don't, you'll
- 4:40just set yourself up for failure.
- 4:43You absolutely will. That's the way it goes right
- 4:46there. You will set yourself up for
- 4:47failure and whatnot and it will set you up It will 100% set you
- 4:52up, so you have to be able to use the word no.
- 4:54He doesn't accept no So what you got to give it a no you all
- 4:58means have no. You have to be able to back it
- 5:00up, though you know it has to be enforceable.
- 5:03You have to enforce the no you know you have to be able to
- 5:07force the no right now that you have to be able to enforce it
- 5:12and whatnot. Y'all sorry I got caught.
- 5:13I got distracted a little bit by something that's going on in my
- 5:16in my peripherals and whatnot. But also take your time.
- 5:26It's important you got to be able to take your time because
- 5:32if you speed is and always will be the weapon of the narcissist,
- 5:37it just is. The faster you go, the better it
- 5:41is for a narcissist because you are going to blow by the red
- 5:46flags. The faster you go, the more you
- 5:49will miss. The more you will miss.
- 5:52That's just factual data. Factual data.
- 5:56The faster you go, the more you will miss.
- 6:00Like realistically, like the faster you go.
- 6:05So do I tell people to slow your behind down?
- 6:10Because if you don't, you're going to get mixed up in
- 6:12toxicity and that's going to mess your life up.
- 6:15It's going to, it's going to counteract your life right here,
- 6:17right? It really is.
- 6:18So you got to retrain your nervous system to prefer
- 6:22consistency over the intense chemistry.
- 6:25Cause y'all be y'all be looking for that, that, that chemistry.
- 6:27Y'all be waiting for that. Y'all want the chemical
- 6:29explosion happening fast. Just like I need the fastness.
- 6:33I think I had a woman message me the other day.
- 6:34She said, Lee, what about when you're older?
- 6:36You don't have time to take it slow.
- 6:38You better take it slow. Like you better take it slow
- 6:42because you, you, you. If you don't want to take it
- 6:44slow because you're older, you don't get you going to be
- 6:46primed. You're primed to be manipulated,
- 6:50primed to be taken advantage of. You're priming yourself.
- 6:54You're nervous if you're priming everything to be able to take
- 6:57people to take advantage of you. So you have to be able to say
- 7:00no. He has to.
- 7:02And Tammy said yes. He saw the debate, saw that as
- 7:05debate time. When I said no, yeah, 'cause
- 7:06they want to. They want to challenge you.
- 7:08They want to change your mind. The more we debate, the longer
- 7:11we talk, the more we go back and forth, the more I think I can
- 7:14change your mind. I can, I can flip you off of a
- 7:17topic and mess it up. You see what I'm saying?
- 7:20You have to be able to say no and you also have to be able to
- 7:24enforce it because like this is what goes on, this what happens
- 7:28all the time in situations like this.
- 7:31It really truly does. And that's that, that's that
- 7:35mindset that so many people are facing when you're dealing with
- 7:39narcissists. They think they get you afraid
- 7:41to say no or they get you to the point where you feel guilty
- 7:43about saying the word no. You get like especially when you
- 7:46get there, getting to know somebody, you feel guilty about
- 7:49saying the word no, right that be happening.
- 7:52You feel guilty as hell about using and saying the word no,
- 7:57and that can mess with you. It really can.
- 8:00That's the part right there that gets into people's heads.
- 8:04It really can. So you got to be able to say
- 8:07this. You got to be able to deal with
- 8:08this and whatnot and take your time.
- 8:12Please, y'all, please take your time because if you don't, it's
- 8:16going to mess with your head. It just is.
- 8:22The next thing on my list is like when you I say this, when
- 8:31you are out there getting to know someone and you feel the
- 8:35chemistry happening, you feel things are going well.
- 8:39Y'all resist the urge to trauma dump, right?
- 8:46Resist that urge to trauma dump. Resist it because the more
- 8:52information you give to this person, the more that they will
- 8:56use it against you, right? The more they will use it
- 9:00against you later on. Because if you trauma dump on
- 9:02me, if you, let's just say I'm a narcissist in your life, right?
- 9:05And we're, you're meet, we're meeting each other for the first
- 9:07time. You trauma dump on me.
- 9:10I'm a use it against you. I know what you've been through,
- 9:13right? If you tell me that you on our
- 9:15first date, if you tell me you've been with a narcissist
- 9:19before and then your last relationship was extremely toxic
- 9:22and you had a liar and a manipulator.
- 9:24I'm gonna just say, look, girl, I'm nothing like your ex.
- 9:30You know that, right? Like I'm not I'm here.
- 9:33God put me in your life to treat you good.
- 9:37Did not hurt. You did not put you this stuff.
- 9:40You know that, right? I'm not like your ex.
- 9:43I'm better than them. I'm going to treat you good.
- 9:46You can trust me. And then y'all head over heels
- 9:48in love. I believe you.
- 9:52I believe you. I trust you don't even know my
- 9:57don't even know my last name. Just understand.
- 9:59I got AI got a sultry voice and now you don't even know my last
- 10:03name. And now I got you.
- 10:06You ain't know my last name now I got you.
- 10:10What you going to do? Slow down, stop rushing the
- 10:14process y'all, because the I'm just telling you, the faster you
- 10:18rush, the more you're going to lose.
- 10:22I promise you 'cause you people give in like oh, I love you so
- 10:25much. You listen to me.
- 10:27Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. What'd you say?
- 10:34I did 7. I did 7 days behind bars.
- 10:36The judge had to go back to get the victim and her five warrant
- 10:40partners go oh wow wow goodness gracious.
- 10:44But you see how it goes though right there y'all slow it down,
- 10:48make people earn your trust make people earn the benefit of the
- 10:52doubt in this situation and whatnot make people earn it.
- 10:57You have to like because if they don't have to earn it, then
- 11:00there's no work to put in just think about it right there.
- 11:02If I ain't got if I don't have to earn the work, then there's
- 11:05nothing I need to do. Y'all make it too.
- 11:07Don't make it too easy on me right?
- 11:08Why would you make it easy on me?
- 11:10And now if it's easy, I'm going to keep doing what you got to
- 11:13do. You know what I mean?
- 11:14Don't make it easy on this toxic narcissistic bastard.
- 11:18So take your time. I'm not telling you to not share
- 11:21anything, but make them earn the information.
- 11:23Make them earn the fact that they're there, right rate them,
- 11:28make them earn it. And you also got to know when
- 11:31you got to look. Y'all hear this song?
- 11:32Got to know when to hold them, know when to fold them.
- 11:35That's you got to know when it's a red flag or when it's just
- 11:38somebody being human, right? You got to know know where to
- 11:42hold them, know where to fold them, but don't be afraid to
- 11:45fold them regardless, because if you're scared to, if you're
- 11:51scared to miss out on somebody that you just met, you're in for
- 11:55a wild ride. I promise you, you are in for a
- 11:59wild ride. You know what I mean?
- 12:01You, you, you just are. You just are it's going, it's
- 12:09going, it's going to mess your life up.
- 12:10You're if you were afraid to miss out somebody, you just you
- 12:15just like met. You're in for a wild and rough
- 12:18time. I promise you that right there.
- 12:21You know what I mean? I promise you, and that will
- 12:24mess with your head. So make people earn the
- 12:26information, make people earn your trust, make people earn it
- 12:31right. And also, let's say if you beat
- 12:33when you see a red flag, don't be afraid to run.
- 12:37You fast. You've been working on you.
- 12:39You you fast. You've been working on this
- 12:41stuff. Take your don't be afraid to
- 12:44run. There's more.
- 12:45There's more fish in the sea. Did you learn how to you and you
- 12:49know how to swim. Come on now.
- 12:52You're better than that. You know better.
- 12:54You Yeah. You do know better, right?
- 12:59Right. You see what I'm saying?
- 13:02So don't let that happen right there.
- 13:04Take your time. And also, y'all in this
- 13:08situation right here, think about this right here in this
- 13:10last, I think is one of the last thing I got to say right here on
- 13:13this topic. Like in this situation right
- 13:16here when you're dealing with someone like this and you and
- 13:18their ex reaches out to you or multiple exes reach out to you
- 13:23and say, hey this person has been treating me horribly,
- 13:27right? This person has been treating me
- 13:31horribly. This person is a narcissist.
- 13:33This person is an abuser. Y'all got to understand that not
- 13:36everybody is lying to you right? There's so many people that I do
- 13:40one on ones with their biggest regret be not listening to the
- 13:45ex that reached out, be not listening to the person that
- 13:48tried to help them. That'd be the biggest regret,
- 13:52you know, I mean, that'd be the biggest regret.
- 13:53So many people like their ex reached out to me on Facebook
- 13:56and I just decided to block them instead of like I decided to
- 13:59block them instead of just taking what they said from face
- 14:01value. I just thought that they were
- 14:03jealous and wanted my new Boo who I just met 5 minutes ago.
- 14:08I, this is what I thought, you know, this is what I thought was
- 14:11going on. And then you get caught up and
- 14:13you be sad as hell, right? That's what ends up happening.
- 14:16That's a different that's what ends up happening in these
- 14:19situations right here, y'all. So we're going to transition to
- 14:22the next step. Next step I do have I have a
- 14:24one-on-one I got to do over zoom in a minute.
- 14:27So if you want to hop on and ask a a question or two or share a
- 14:30little bit, I just drop the link right here in here.
- 14:34So give me one second. We're going to hop to that next
- 14:36part of right here. We're doing live interviews.
- 14:38I'm going to start doing more of these right here.
- 14:39Y'all. Where are we at first?
- 14:47Can you hear me? It's beloved.
- 14:51I don't know if you can hear me. Yeah.
- 14:54What's up? How you doing?
- 14:57I'm good. What's?
- 14:59Going on, how can I help you out today?
- 15:06Hello. Yeah.
- 15:07Can you hear me? I'm sorry.
- 15:09Yeah, I can. I'm sorry, I'm at work.
- 15:10I'm trying to multitask all right.
- 15:13You you had a question or two while you're at work?
- 15:16No, I actually don't. I'm just listening.
- 15:19OK, we'll, we'll, we'll we'll chat in a little bit.
- 15:22OK. OK.
- 15:24Sorry about that. OK, we're OK.
- 15:28So, yeah, if you want to hop in the box, I just dropped it in
- 15:31the comment section, Right? It looks like this right here.
- 15:33Yeah, you ask a question or two and whatnot, but also y'all,
- 15:37another thing about the dating stuff right here.
- 15:39If you feel like you're attract, you're attracted to the same
- 15:41type of person and they just happen to be narcissistic, you
- 15:44got to just kind of, you might have to revamp what you who and
- 15:47what you're attracted to, right, Right.
- 15:49Everybody that you end up dating is a narcissist in some way,
- 15:54shape or form. You got to readdress what you're
- 15:56attracted to. Can you let me hear this?
- 15:58Can you hear me? It says it says Miss Banks, can
- 16:03you hear me? It's popping up.
- 16:07I don't know if you can hear me. You're it says you.
- 16:10You got you're on mute right now.
- 16:11Can't mute you guys because they chose to mute themselves.
- 16:13They say you mute it right now, Miss Banks, if you want to
- 16:16unmute yourself or just drop me a message when you unmute
- 16:23yourself, something might pop up.
- 16:24Can you hear me? Hello.
- 16:28Hey, what's up? How you doing?
- 16:30Hi. How are you?
- 16:30I didn't expect so quickly to be able to talk to you, but thanks.
- 16:34No. Problem What's?
- 16:36Going on, I just had a question when the when the ex you, you
- 16:42had a big argument pretty much like you're breaking up, but
- 16:48they take a couple days, they start reaching out, texting,
- 16:51calling, but about everything but the argument.
- 16:56What, what, what, what are they trying to accomplish it?
- 17:00It was like, are you OK? And then like, OK, that's all I
- 17:03wanted. And then they hang up the phone.
- 17:06But then the text comes. I'm sorry.
- 17:09Oh, I need to talk to the friend that you referred me to about a,
- 17:12a business situation. Oh, thanks.
- 17:15Let me know when I can talk to him and then hang up the phone.
- 17:17And I'm like you just glazed over the whole argument we had
- 17:21like couple days ago. Yeah, because that's the goal
- 17:24right there is to glaze over it, right?
- 17:26The goal in that situation is to just verify that they still have
- 17:30some type of access to you, make sure that you're still answering
- 17:33the phone and responding and just hopefully the issue will
- 17:36just fade into oblivion, right? They just hope the issue doesn't
- 17:40have to get bought up again because they would rather it
- 17:43just pass. It would just pass by then to
- 17:46rather deal with it, right? So that's what ends up
- 17:48happening. So they don't want to act.
- 17:50They want, they will prefer to act like not not act like
- 17:53nothing happened and still get what they want from you and just
- 17:56gloss over whatever the issue actually was.
- 17:59You know what I mean? Yeah.
- 18:02I mean, I I don't understand it because how is that going to end
- 18:05well unless I accept it? Exactly, unless you accept it
- 18:09right, that's how it ends well for them because they they, if
- 18:12they hopefully and this does work sometimes right where they
- 18:15will just ignore the actual issues, ignore what they've
- 18:17actually done and just talk to you over and over again and then
- 18:21y'all just pick up where you left off like nothing happened.
- 18:23That's the goal there. They don't want to be held
- 18:26accountable for anything. They would rather just Hey,
- 18:28Luke. Yeah, and this the last argument
- 18:32that we had, he was dead wrong. And I, I got so furious because,
- 18:37you know, we end up being like people that kind of like people
- 18:41pleasers. Like you don't want to argue.
- 18:43You just say yes and, you know, let it go.
- 18:45But I, I got to the point where I, I started cursing and I, I
- 18:48told him, I said, you don't get the F and tell me that I'm the,
- 18:52you know, I just, I just went off.
- 18:54And I think that was like a shock because I had never done
- 18:56that before. Yeah, yeah.
- 18:59And that's what ends up happening, right?
- 19:02That's what ends up going on right there because you end up
- 19:04having a, a visceral reaction to the things that you've been
- 19:07going through. And then you pop off and then
- 19:10you look like the aggressor. They, they sometimes, sometimes
- 19:12they can be referred to as reactive abuse or just a
- 19:15reactive to what they've done to you and whatnot.
- 19:18And then you look like, like, why you yelling?
- 19:20See why I was just having to try to have a conversation now here
- 19:22you go right here. You know, so they try to make
- 19:24it, make themselves out to be the victim because they have a,
- 19:27you have a reaction to what they've been doing and how
- 19:30they've been handling it and whatnot, right.
- 19:32Right, So what? What's their whole point though?
- 19:34And and and starting this all over again because I'm supposed
- 19:38to be the one that's at fault. So here you're back, texting me
- 19:42about random nonsense. That's just that that's just
- 19:44keeping access to you right there, because that's just
- 19:47verifying that the relationship dynamic is not over.
- 19:50You're still responding to me. You're still I, you haven't
- 19:53blocked me. So I'm just making sure I'm in
- 19:55or I'm, I'm orbiting you right now, right?
- 19:58He's orbiting. He's just around.
- 19:59He's letting you know that he's still there, right?
- 20:02They're messing with you just as just say, hey, I'm still here,
- 20:05I'm still around. And whatnot and whatever comes
- 20:09next, because they want to be, they always want to be.
- 20:12Just know that they want you to know that they're still going to
- 20:14be around in some way, shape or form.
- 20:17Yeah, Yeah, I got it. Thank you so much.
- 20:20No. Problem.
- 20:21Thanks for hopping on and sharing.
- 20:23Yeah, have a good one. You as well poo poo.
- 20:28If anybody else I just drop the link in y'all.
- 20:30If y'all want to hop on ask a question or two, of course you
- 20:35don't have to, but like I said, I'm just trying to get more
- 20:38involved and have more like more guests hop on and whatnot.
- 20:41The link looks like this right here.
- 20:43It says this is the link to come on.
- 20:44It says it's a stream yard. I don't know.
- 20:46I know it kind of looks like spam, but it's a link to
- 20:49actually come on and share like ask a question or two or what
- 20:51not. You can drop it in the comment
- 20:52section. I'm still reading the comments
- 20:53y'all. They do want love.
- 20:54They won't love, but they don't know how to receive it or to
- 20:57give it right. It's kind of crazy.
- 20:59They want love, they want to be loved, but they don't know how
- 21:02to give love or receive it. And that's what ends up
- 21:06happening right there. They don't have to give love and
- 21:09or receive it and what not that it just goes on right there.
- 21:14On Week 2 of Escaping my Narc, it's harder than I thought, but
- 21:16so much better. Having to regulate my emotions
- 21:19is hard. Yeah, it's going to be, it's
- 21:20it's hard. It's going to be hard, right.
- 21:22When you're dealing with emotional regulation, especially
- 21:25after leaving a toxic relationship, it's very
- 21:27difficult because when you're in a relationship with a
- 21:29narcissist, you tend to have to bottle your emotions up because
- 21:33of what's what's happening, what you're going through, right?
- 21:36You have to bottle those things up because of how things go.
- 21:39Like you're afraid to get a reaction from that person.
- 21:41You're afraid of them saying or doing something to you.
- 21:44So you bottle everything up, you really do.
- 21:49And this ends up happening. So when you get out of it,
- 21:52right, So you leave it, everything you don't, you're no
- 21:54longer in that bottle, right? You're no longer in that bottle
- 21:58and that will end up happening. Is it possible to go from the X
- 22:03that's getting recycled to a relationship again?
- 22:05I might want to clarify that just a little bit.
- 22:07Can you hear me? Hi.
- 22:10Hey, what's up? Can you hear me?
- 22:12Yeah, I can hear you. Yes.
- 22:13All right, so there's this guy and he's a little bit older than
- 22:19I am, and I'm not necessarily young.
- 22:22So we were dating and it was, I was in the beginning, I was
- 22:25like, well, let's just keep this casual.
- 22:27I mean, as long as my theory is is, you know, we're too old to
- 22:32be boyfriends and girlfriends. You know, we see each other, we
- 22:36date, you know, he's a little older, I'm older.
- 22:41A true relationship for me at this point is marriage.
- 22:44If we're not married, you know, then we're just basically
- 22:48friends. So it was going really well.
- 22:52We were dating. We were going to, you know,
- 22:54shows and concerts. And then his behaviors changed.
- 23:00So I start noticing the behaviors changed.
- 23:03And then I kind of backed up myself.
- 23:05So of course, I'm going on different dates with other
- 23:09people. And then that kind of, you know,
- 23:12unnerved him. Yeah.
- 23:14So after that he started dating himself and I'm like, OK, so I
- 23:20didn't give a reaction. And I would see these different
- 23:24types of people that he would go on dates with and I wasn't, I
- 23:28wasn't jealous, you know, and I think that really bothered him
- 23:32to the fact that I wasn't jealous.
- 23:33So I'm at the standpoint is that since I've seen these type of
- 23:38people that you're dating with, I just feel like he's no longer
- 23:42someone that I should date. So now he's doing like these
- 23:45weird things like sending me screenshots of me when I'm at
- 23:49events, you know, saying, oh, you're always here.
- 23:52You're always there. And I'm like, I'm going to live
- 23:55my life like what? And he's trying to make me feel
- 23:59bad about, you know, continuing on.
- 24:05Yeah, but they they happen sometimes right there.
- 24:07They want to make you feel bad and make you feel guilty because
- 24:10that keeps you stationary and hopefully in that kind of dating
- 24:13zone, like in the in kind of in the warm zone to date or be able
- 24:17to reach out to you later on if it even if he's dating other
- 24:20people, right? That happens too.
- 24:22Like they can be out here dating other people, seeing, seeing
- 24:25multiple people and yet still doing the same exact thing,
- 24:28right? Just not necessarily committing
- 24:30to you, but playing these games to kind of keep you on the hook
- 24:33and whatnot. And like you, you say, if you
- 24:35see the type of people that he's dating and he trying to date you
- 24:38and he's trying to include you, that type of person that he's
- 24:40dating, right? So that we that happens too,
- 24:43right there as well. It's kind of like deciding what
- 24:46you want or how you want things to kind of go as well are going
- 24:50to be extremely important too, right?
- 24:52Those things will be extremely important, but I'm not really.
- 24:55I'm not really dating. I mean, I'll go on the dates,
- 24:58but I'll lots of times I'm not like on social events with my
- 25:01with my with my work friends or my home girls or things like
- 25:04that. And he's out physically with
- 25:07these other women, like holding arm and the whole thing.
- 25:12But yeah, stills like telling me, oh, you're always in the
- 25:15street, you're always here, you're always there.
- 25:18And I'm like, I'm not supposed to live my life.
- 25:22The no, you're not supposed to live your life.
- 25:24You, you, you're, you're supposed to be there waiting,
- 25:27waiting around on him to settle down and just stop dating other
- 25:31people, right? That's what he's doing.
- 25:34I said that's what it sounds like he's doing right there
- 25:35because it sounds like he's projecting what he's actually
- 25:38doing onto you. You know, he's not like, he's
- 25:40like he's doing out here in the streets and dating and doing all
- 25:43this other stuff, but he's trying to make it seem like you
- 25:45are to kind of keep you right where you are, to kind of keep
- 25:48you stuck and whatnot, right? That's typically what that
- 25:50mindset goes as well with what they're trying to do with how
- 25:54they're going about doing things as well, you know?
- 25:58So that's just my manipulation to keep me stagnant, huh?
- 26:01That's what you're saying. They keep you, they keep you
- 26:03stagnant, right? They keep you from moving on and
- 26:06just making the decision that you want to just be free or live
- 26:09the light, live your life how you want to live it.
- 26:12That's precisely what he's doing right now.
- 26:14It's it's very game like. That's why he's not, that's why
- 26:16he's not committing. He's just playing these games
- 26:19and whatnot. And just also saying, telling
- 26:21you that you're the one out here playing the games and you're the
- 26:24one who's not committing to him or blah, blah, blah, whatever it
- 26:28is, right? He's just trying to make it seem
- 26:29like you're the bad guy here. We haven't done anything wrong,
- 26:33but that's the mentality. That's what that's how you, when
- 26:35that's when you're dealing with a narcissistic person, that's
- 26:37kind of what you get right there.
- 26:39That's the end result of it right there.
- 26:40They just necessarily, they want to keep you around, but don't
- 26:43necessarily want to commit. They just want to have their
- 26:46cake and eat it as well, right? All right.
- 26:48Well, thank you. How do I hang up on this?
- 26:50I got, I got it. I can do it.
- 26:51Thank you for hopping on. Thank you all.
- 26:53Right. Bye bye.
- 26:56Is that I got a few more minutes.
- 26:57Y'all going on somebody else wants to hop on Doo Doo Doo.
- 27:02I'll drop the link right here. Here's the link.
- 27:07Here's the link right here if y'all want to hop on.
- 27:09Yes, it's projecting. Yep, absolutely.
- 27:12And why do they keep lying and the lies doesn't stop?
- 27:15Because lying. It's going to sound weird when I
- 27:17say this, but lying is a form of control.
- 27:22I know that sounds weird, but lying is absolutely a form of
- 27:25control by a narcissistic person.
- 27:27Because if I lie, I control what the truth is.
- 27:32I control how things are viewed. I control how people are viewed,
- 27:36right? I control the narrative.
- 27:38So you will get a lot of lying ass narcissistic people out here
- 27:43that do this type of stuff as well.
- 27:45They just be lying asses. Are they really 100% do this be
- 27:48the mentality that so many people face and that so many
- 27:51people are dealing with as well? Because that's the, that really
- 27:53is part of it. You know, when you're dealing
- 27:55with somebody who has this mentality, it can be very
- 27:57difficult as well. But they self sabotage by line.
- 28:01Yeah. Self sabotage is kind of like
- 28:03self sabotage is kind of like a core of narcissism, right?
- 28:06It's kind of a core. It's kind of like a root.
- 28:09Like most narcissists are going to sabotage themselves in some
- 28:12way, shape or form, right? Most are going to do it.
- 28:16I'm dropping the link. I said the link is a stream yard
- 28:18link. Yeah, I'll drop.
- 28:19Like I said, I dropped it in the comments already, but it's a
- 28:22stream yard link. It looks, it just looks weird.
- 28:25I'll drop. I'll drop it like this.
- 28:27I'll drop it directly on here. Is that y'all just join the
- 28:31live, make sure y'all hit the hit the thumbs up on the live as
- 28:33well. Just hit the little thumbs up
- 28:35like live and then drop a comment.
- 28:38I'm reading the comments as y'all going to see.
- 28:42I wonder if it go back to relationship If what go back the
- 28:45person lies so much. Yep Yep.
- 28:48Is lying also Yeah, no, absolutely lying is lying is
- 28:51100% a formal manipulation. Yeah, it it really is because
- 28:56they're trying to change the narrative, they're trying to
- 28:58manipulate. They're trying to get people to
- 29:00believe what they want to believe.
- 29:02He said if I just say yes, honey, then we'll be fine.
- 29:05The control they want is unreal. Yeah, that's that's that.
- 29:08You know, if you think about how dumb that, if you think about
- 29:10how dumb that is right there, that's crazy as hell to say out
- 29:14loud. If you just say yes, honey to
- 29:16everything, we'll be fine. Really.
- 29:25How dumb does that sound? Oh, y'all that sounds this, this
- 29:27sounds stupid. That sounds ridiculous right
- 29:30there. If you just say yes, honey,
- 29:32we'll be fine, we'll be fine. What?
- 29:35But the line is mixed with a bunch of effort and good
- 29:37behavior, but there's still lies and other types of behavior.
- 29:39He's like 5050. So is so is 50.
- 29:42You got to ask yourself out here, local, local, local Luna,
- 29:46you got to ask yourself, is 50% truth good enough to stay with
- 29:49or be around? Could you say 5050?
- 29:52That's that's a horrible ratio right there for telling the
- 29:55truth. That's a horrible ratio for
- 29:57being honest in a relationship. I'll be real with you.
- 29:59That's a that's a horrible relationship.
- 30:01That's a horrible ratio to be live.
- 30:04I mean, to be in a relationship like that, you know what I mean?
- 30:06So 5050 enough 50 people people be people be argue about paying
- 30:1150% of the 5050 of the bills, not 5050 honesty.
- 30:15You know what I mean? Not 5050 honesty. 50% of the
- 30:19bills we were talking about 50% lies and honesty, right?
- 30:30That's me. Why do they reject intimacy if
- 30:32you're married to a narcissist? Because intimacy, like some
- 30:35narcissist can be condemn there be asexual where they don't
- 30:38require any type of intimacy at all.
- 30:41But others do it just to mess with you.
- 30:43Others do it just to mess with you and hurt your feelings.
- 30:45So let's let's just say you put on some some lingerie in front
- 30:49of Bernard like you, you you super nervous.
- 30:51You're super kind of you're kind of self-conscious about your
- 30:53body, but you decide to put on some lingerie and you reveal
- 30:57yourself and they're like they're like, damn, we you look
- 31:00stupid as hell with that on. That's to hurt your feelings.
- 31:05You look dumb. Put some clothes on sometimes.
- 31:08Sometimes they do things on purpose just to hurt your
- 31:10feelings and whatnot. Y'all so I do have to get prep.
- 31:14Y'all have a one-on-one here in the next few minutes.
- 31:16Y'all. So I do have to get prep for my
- 31:17one-on-one. I do phone calls.
- 31:19I do phone calls, I do Zoom calls.
- 31:22Everything is available at mentalillness.net.
- 31:25So if you see it right here, mental illness.net, check it
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- 31:36I'll just have guests on because I'm tired of doing just doing
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- 31:40We're going to have guests on the next live.
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