Latest / Influencer Confidential / @CreateCultivate CEO Reveals the Power of Personal Branding, Community, and Women Empowerment 💪 [Creator Currency Ep. 12]
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- 0:00Speaker 1: When I first learned about Create Cultivate, it was through
- 0:02Speaker 1: a simple Google search when I was looking up women conferences.
- 0:06Speaker 1: I was looking for space in real life, in person,
- 0:09Speaker 1: where women, especially women founders, could connect and meet, and
- 0:13Speaker 1: that's where I learned about Create Cultivate. It's so exciting
- 0:16Speaker 1: for me here today at Influencer Confidential to now be
- 0:19Speaker 1: able to interview the CEO of this very business I
- 0:22Speaker 1: was researching years ago on Google. Marina Middleton is the
- 0:26Speaker 1: CEO and partner at Create Cultivate, the largest events and
- 0:30Speaker 1: media platform advancing women by providing accesses to resources, connections,
- 0:36Speaker 1: and opportunities. Within six months of becoming CEO, Marina secured
- 0:40Speaker 1: venture capital, which was a huge achievement as a first
- 0:43Speaker 1: time CEO and first generation Egyptian in a landscape where
- 0:47Speaker 1: only zero point thirty nine percent of venture capital is
- 0:50Speaker 1: secured by women of color. In today's episode, we're not
- 0:53Speaker 1: only going to learn about Marina's journey, the importance of
- 0:56Speaker 1: networking in real life, the importance of in person events.
- 1:00Speaker 1: We're also going to dive into the Create Cultivate Festival, which,
- 1:04Speaker 1: under her leadership, is basically been dubbed as the Coachella
- 1:07Speaker 1: for women. In business, think learning, think wellness, and a
- 1:11Speaker 1: hybrid of all the things that us women in business
- 1:13Speaker 1: are looking for Before acquiring Create and Cultivate in twenty
- 1:16Speaker 1: twenty three, she also built digital media campaigns for Fortune
- 1:20Speaker 1: five hundred companies at Yahoo Tumblr. She's consulted hundreds of
- 1:24Speaker 1: female founders helping them scale their businesses, and she is
- 1:28Speaker 1: going to dive into all of that and much more
- 1:30Speaker 1: in today's episode. I can't wait for you guys to
- 1:33Speaker 1: listen and learn the gem she's going to be dropping. Marina,
- 1:36Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. So I want to kind of
- 1:38Speaker 1: start off with your journey and like kind of how
- 1:40Speaker 1: you got into this. I read somewhere, I think it
- 1:42Speaker 1: was on your Instagram, that butterfly effect and that feeling
- 1:45Speaker 1: of you know, you said, if you weren't laid off
- 1:48Speaker 1: from some position that you were in, you would never
- 1:50Speaker 1: be the CEO of Create and Cultivate. So can you
- 1:53Speaker 1: kind of walk us through that moment and how it
- 1:56Speaker 1: changed everything for you.
- 1:57Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because I love this trend that was
- 2:00Speaker 2: happening of butterfly effect, because I think as we're living
- 2:03Speaker 2: day to day, it's really hard to take a step
- 2:05Speaker 2: back and be like, oh wow, like this happened for me,
- 2:08Speaker 2: not to me, you know, like this is such a
- 2:10Speaker 2: great opportunity that like I got laid off. Nobody ever
- 2:13Speaker 2: gets laid off or gets broken up with or whatever,
- 2:16Speaker 2: and they're like yay, like that was amazing. And so
- 2:19Speaker 2: I think hindsight, you know, it was twenty twenty and
- 2:22Speaker 2: it you know, I got laid off from Yahoo, which
- 2:25Speaker 2: was a job that I loved. I never thought about
- 2:28Speaker 2: really being an entrepreneur because I had in my community
- 2:31Speaker 2: on social and I was building that and I was
- 2:33Speaker 2: you know, influencing in my own space and then I
- 2:36Speaker 2: was working my nine to five's and it was awesome.
- 2:38Speaker 2: And so when I got laid off, it wasn't like, oh,
- 2:40Speaker 2: I'm going to be the CEO of Creighton Cultivate Like
- 2:43Speaker 2: that wasn't my first thought. My first thought was that
- 2:45Speaker 2: I wanted to be, you know, a lifestyle content creator
- 2:48Speaker 2: and I was gonna really focus on creating content and
- 2:51Speaker 2: being a blogger and traveling and all and highlighting all
- 2:53Speaker 2: the things that you know, happened in my life. And
- 2:55Speaker 2: so kind of now looking at it, six years that
- 2:59Speaker 2: went by, so much has changed, and I think it's
- 3:03Speaker 2: like I'm so grateful for that layoff, for.
- 3:04Speaker 1: That moment that made everything for you. And then how
- 3:07Speaker 1: did you discover Crete Cultivator or like how did you
- 3:09Speaker 1: kind of find your way within the company and rise
- 3:12Speaker 1: to where you are right now? Because that's EO.
- 3:15Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's funny when I I had just touched on,
- 3:18Speaker 2: like I wanted to be a lifestyle content creator and
- 3:20Speaker 2: I did that for or tried to do it for
- 3:22Speaker 2: about a month, and I think, now it's funny. I
- 3:25Speaker 2: don't think people realize how hard full time influencers or
- 3:29Speaker 2: content creators have it. Like it's a lot of work.
- 3:33Speaker 2: You know, my team marking side is like, hey, can
- 3:36Speaker 2: you create content for us like a day in life?
- 3:38Speaker 2: And I'm like, I'm rushing yesterday.
- 3:40Speaker 3: I'm trying to you know, put my tripod on, do
- 3:43Speaker 3: the thing that I'm doing, Go grab the tripod and
- 3:45Speaker 3: get it.
- 3:46Speaker 2: You know, it's a lot of work, and I don't
- 3:48Speaker 2: think people realize the amount of like effort and thought
- 3:51Speaker 2: and creativity and like everything that went into it. And
- 3:54Speaker 2: so after you know, trying for a month, I was like,
- 3:57Speaker 2: I don't know if I can do this, you know,
- 3:58Speaker 2: let me, let me pivot. And I think that that
- 4:01Speaker 2: is really what allowed me to step into this like
- 4:03Speaker 2: new season of my life. So I ended up pivoting.
- 4:06Speaker 2: I started a company called Empowered Confidence, and it was
- 4:09Speaker 2: focused on helping women build their personal brand and show
- 4:12Speaker 2: up on social and market their expertise and then eventually monetizes.
- 4:16Speaker 2: I had courses, masterminds, retreats, and I was really like
- 4:19Speaker 2: so grateful for the success that I had for Empowered Confidence.
- 4:22Speaker 2: But during that I googled like women conference or women
- 4:26Speaker 2: Empowerment conference, women in business conferences, and creating Cultivate came up.
- 4:31Speaker 2: And so I went to a New York event October
- 4:33Speaker 2: of twenty twenty one, and I was like, I love
- 4:35Speaker 2: this place, Like this is amazing. And I've been to
- 4:38Speaker 2: a lot of conferences and a lot of events, especially
- 4:40Speaker 2: in corporate, and they're either all male dominated, they're in
- 4:44Speaker 2: like shitty conference rooms, They're not really geared to the
- 4:47Speaker 2: content that I want to learn about, and so you're
- 4:49Speaker 2: like kind of pigeonholed to learn one specific thing. Creating
- 4:52Speaker 2: Cultivate was different than that, right. It was a bunch
- 4:55Speaker 2: of women that had big goals somewhere in corporate and
- 4:58Speaker 2: wanted to grow some more new moms others were influencers
- 5:03Speaker 2: that are now building empires. So it was just a
- 5:06Speaker 2: really cool melting pot of different types of women specifically,
- 5:11Speaker 2: and so I loved it. I kept going to all
- 5:14Speaker 2: the events, ended up making connections and really networking, and
- 5:18Speaker 2: ended up meeting Jacqueline Johnson, who was the original founder
- 5:21Speaker 2: of Creating cul Fate, but when I found the business,
- 5:25Speaker 2: she had already sold it to private equity, so she
- 5:27Speaker 2: wasn't really operating the business or anything like that, and
- 5:29Speaker 2: so we connected. I pitched her an idea to start
- 5:32Speaker 2: a Mastermind. We started it, and we had the opportunity
- 5:36Speaker 2: to buy it. She's like, Hey, do you want to
- 5:37Speaker 2: buy create and cultivate with me and back from private equity?
- 5:40Speaker 2: And I was like absolutely, And she's like, do you
- 5:42Speaker 2: want to operate as a CEO? It was like yes,
- 5:44Speaker 2: like one hundred percent, And so it was definitely a
- 5:47Speaker 2: full circle moment. Yeah, to say the.
- 5:49Speaker 1: Least, Yeah, there are no coincidences though, you know, like
- 5:53Speaker 1: it's all just kind of this divine intervention meant to
- 5:56Speaker 1: be sprinkled with persistence, preparation and every thing that you
- 6:00Speaker 1: know you did to get you to this perfect storm
- 6:03Speaker 1: or this perfect spot. And I love this story and
- 6:05Speaker 1: it just feels so relatable and attainable, Like how many
- 6:08Speaker 1: times do we think something is bigger than what it is?
- 6:11Speaker 1: But then like you went to these events, You're like, wait,
- 6:13Speaker 1: I know these people, they think I'm cool, we vibe
- 6:16Speaker 1: oh wait, Like there's that connection that I think really
- 6:19Speaker 1: truly manifests in the best possible way in real life.
- 6:22Speaker 1: You know, I always tell my community of creators like,
- 6:25Speaker 1: get out there, meet people, make those random connections. Like
- 6:28Speaker 1: your story is the perfect example of you going to
- 6:31Speaker 1: the events, being the customer, finding a connection with you know,
- 6:34Speaker 1: the founder, and then building something two point zero together.
- 6:38Speaker 1: Like I love that. It just shows that these moments,
- 6:40Speaker 1: these moments of magic happen in person. And I want
- 6:43Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about you know, today's digital
- 6:45Speaker 1: landscape feels so digital. It feels so driven by the
- 6:49Speaker 1: AI and the screen and the zoom calls, and we're
- 6:53Speaker 1: lacking humanness. And that's what I love about creat Cultivate
- 6:56Speaker 1: because you guys are like the og about in person
- 7:00Speaker 1: when it comes to in person around female especially millennial
- 7:03Speaker 1: women in business, Like I'm your target demo. You guys
- 7:06Speaker 1: really understand the in person So can you talk to
- 7:08Speaker 1: us also just from networking for the creators listening the
- 7:11Speaker 1: importance of the magic in person and real live events
- 7:16Speaker 1: and how that should be something that people are also
- 7:18Speaker 1: investing in as part of their brain power, you know,
- 7:22Speaker 1: to get out there and meet more people in person.
- 7:24Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I mean, so Creating Cultivate is the
- 7:27Speaker 2: largest events in media company for women. We have one
- 7:30Speaker 2: of the largest communities of creators and influencers ranging from
- 7:34Speaker 2: all all sizes, right from just starting out they're ideating
- 7:38Speaker 2: all the way to these like massive, massive creators that
- 7:41Speaker 2: have built empires. And so they all started and have
- 7:43Speaker 2: grown with Creating Cultivate. And which is why I love
- 7:46Speaker 2: the business and the community and the brand so much.
- 7:48Speaker 2: It's not because you know, I'm a big believer that
- 7:51Speaker 2: community is a byproduct of your business. You can't force community.
- 7:55Speaker 2: You cannot fabricate community, just like that's not how it works.
- 8:00Speaker 2: And so what we do for creat and Cultivate, and
- 8:03Speaker 2: I kind of to answer your question of why it's
- 8:04Speaker 2: so important, is like our number one goal is to
- 8:07Speaker 2: give you access to great people, like unbelievable people that
- 8:11Speaker 2: could help change your life. Give you access to tools
- 8:14Speaker 2: that maybe you're not using that could simplify how you
- 8:17Speaker 2: do business, simplify how you show up for your family,
- 8:21Speaker 2: for yourself. We introduce you to products that are unbelievable,
- 8:25Speaker 2: whether it's skincare, hair like everything. Personally and professionally, we
- 8:29Speaker 2: got you covered. And so what we do is dive
- 8:32Speaker 2: into all of the brands that exist, all the information
- 8:36Speaker 2: that exists, and we curate the most unbelievable activations to
- 8:39Speaker 2: make it easier for you to go in and say, Okay,
- 8:42Speaker 2: I really need to figure out like my banking and
- 8:44Speaker 2: so I'm going to work with Chase Inc. For credit cards,
- 8:47Speaker 2: like I know, I'm going to work with them. Rare
- 8:49Speaker 2: Beauty has the best new fragrance. I haven't been able
- 8:51Speaker 2: to get in store and to try it, so I'm
- 8:53Speaker 2: going to try it. So it allows you to kind
- 8:55Speaker 2: of like take a breath from all of the noise
- 8:59Speaker 2: and all of them that's coming to you online. The
- 9:02Speaker 2: other aspect of it why this is so powerful is
- 9:05Speaker 2: not only do you get like a more organized way
- 9:08Speaker 2: of consuming content like the panels and the sessions and
- 9:11Speaker 2: the workshops and like all of those stuff, but outside
- 9:14Speaker 2: of all of that, you're in a room of people
- 9:16Speaker 2: that are literally forcing you to dream bigger, Like you're
- 9:20Speaker 2: getting in there and you're like, my biggest dream was
- 9:23Speaker 2: to speak on the Crane Cultivate stage. That was hands
- 9:25Speaker 2: down like I went and I was like, I want
- 9:27Speaker 2: to be on that stage. That dream felt more attainable
- 9:31Speaker 2: the more I was going, the more I was being
- 9:33Speaker 2: surrounded with these women, and I was like, oh, wow,
- 9:35Speaker 2: like it really does matter getting in the room that
- 9:38Speaker 2: it doesn't matter how hard I work online, how great
- 9:42Speaker 2: my content is. If people don't have that human interaction
- 9:46Speaker 2: with me, they're never gonna know really who I am
- 9:49Speaker 2: and the energy that you cannot really show online. And
- 9:52Speaker 2: so that's kind of where the like aha moment or
- 9:56Speaker 2: the light bulb goes off. For these creators and influencers
- 9:59Speaker 2: and business own that are coming to create and cultivate,
- 10:01Speaker 2: they're like, oh, I get it, Like I get to
- 10:03Speaker 2: show up as myself, I get to meet other creators,
- 10:06Speaker 2: people start businesses together, they find brand partnerships in person,
- 10:10Speaker 2: they create their content. Like it's just a really cool experience.
- 10:13Speaker 2: And so for any of the creators listening, it is
- 10:16Speaker 2: so much easier to like even though that's hard, but
- 10:19Speaker 2: like so much easier to be home create your content,
- 10:22Speaker 2: go out with your like on your own create your
- 10:24Speaker 2: own like content on your tripods, all that stuff. But like,
- 10:27Speaker 2: you gotta get into the room. You just have to
- 10:30Speaker 2: so people know exactly who you are. I say this
- 10:32Speaker 2: all the time. It's a quote that like really has
- 10:34Speaker 2: stuck with me for the past four years. But best
- 10:37Speaker 2: known beats best, Like best known beats best. The more
- 10:41Speaker 2: people know you, the better people know you, the more
- 10:44Speaker 2: that you're out there. It doesn't matter how good you
- 10:46Speaker 2: are at anything, if people don't know you, doesn't matter.
- 10:49Speaker 1: So but it's it's so powerful, and I feel like
- 10:51Speaker 1: it's a wake up call too to not get complacent,
- 10:54Speaker 1: to not just sit and wait to be invited. So
- 10:57Speaker 1: many of us feel like we need to be invited
- 10:59Speaker 1: or wait to meet our future people. And I think
- 11:02Speaker 1: one of the key messages you're really honing in on
- 11:05Speaker 1: is no one's gonna do it for you. You got
- 11:06Speaker 1: to put yourselves in these rooms, you know. And the
- 11:09Speaker 1: beauty is everyone's there kind of together figuring it out. Excitement.
- 11:13Speaker 1: It's like fashion week, there's like an energy that's exciting.
- 11:16Speaker 1: Maybe after fashion week everyone's like closed off and scary,
- 11:18Speaker 1: but like during it, you're like let's vibe. Here's my card. Like,
- 11:22Speaker 1: there's just this power and magic that happens. It's kind
- 11:25Speaker 1: of like live theater, you know, there's magic that happens
- 11:28Speaker 1: at these events where I find people are open, People
- 11:31Speaker 1: are open to collaborating, opening to handing out their contact.
- 11:34Speaker 1: Like I've got some contacts at events, and I'm like,
- 11:37Speaker 1: that person would never give me their business card, but
- 11:39Speaker 1: at an event because I'm all, like, you know, just
- 11:42Speaker 1: connecting human to human. I think that it's important to
- 11:45Speaker 1: not wait, you guys, it's to also not wait to
- 11:47Speaker 1: be invited. You don't need permission to go. Go go
- 11:50Speaker 1: if it's alone, go if you need Yeah, you know,
- 11:53Speaker 1: being going to events alone as a vibe. Like for
- 11:55Speaker 1: some people that's scary, there's mindset around it, you know.
- 11:58Speaker 1: But I think what makes communities like yours that are
- 12:00Speaker 1: doing these events, you're creating safe spaces for people to
- 12:03Speaker 1: jump on in. And one thing that I love that
- 12:05Speaker 1: you said about like the activations, I know for me,
- 12:07Speaker 1: I'm busy. You know, I don't have time to go
- 12:09Speaker 1: to ulta and shore and try things. I literally don't
- 12:12Speaker 1: and the only time I do is because my eleven
- 12:14Speaker 1: year old is like I want to try something and
- 12:16Speaker 1: like what your eleven? No, But the point is is
- 12:19Speaker 1: like to be able to have like this space where
- 12:21Speaker 1: we can try these I want to try cool stuff,
- 12:23Speaker 1: like I want to try the new rare beauty, so
- 12:26Speaker 1: and so. I mean, but from a founder perspective, our
- 12:29Speaker 1: time is limited. So it's like this space where we
- 12:31Speaker 1: can have a little bit of everything. I think what's
- 12:33Speaker 1: interesting is that you guys have been able to kind
- 12:36Speaker 1: of create a space for women at every stage, because
- 12:39Speaker 1: I think that's the hard part, right, Like it's being
- 12:42Speaker 1: able to say you're an intern, Hey, you're a CEO,
- 12:45Speaker 1: Hey you're a creator, you're a founder. You know, you
- 12:48Speaker 1: guys have been able to find this like common thread.
- 12:50Speaker 1: I'm sure this was strategic to create this sort of vision,
- 12:53Speaker 1: but how are you enabling people at all spaces, all
- 12:57Speaker 1: levels to be seen? You know? How do we do that?
- 13:00Speaker 1: How do how do we create a space that from
- 13:02Speaker 1: the intern to the CEO there's something for everyone.
- 13:05Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. That was one of the questions that
- 13:08Speaker 2: I really had when I bought the company of just
- 13:10Speaker 2: like what can we do differently and how can we
- 13:14Speaker 2: as a company grow with her? Right, whether she's a
- 13:18Speaker 2: new mom, whether she just started out and needs like,
- 13:22Speaker 2: you know, support growing her business, figuring out how to
- 13:24Speaker 2: do brand partnerships, figuring out how to climb the ladder,
- 13:27Speaker 2: or maybe she's a seven figure founder now and you know,
- 13:30Speaker 2: she's she's built the business and now she's looking to
- 13:33Speaker 2: build her personal brand. And so we really questioned through
- 13:36Speaker 2: all of the different like journeys and stages of a
- 13:40Speaker 2: modern day working woman, you know, like what does that
- 13:43Speaker 2: look like and what are the conversations that she needs
- 13:46Speaker 2: to hear. We ended up creating different formats of events
- 13:50Speaker 2: for them, so each type of persona or person has
- 13:53Speaker 2: an experience. So if you're just starting out, we have
- 13:56Speaker 2: the Blueprint, Mastermind Accelerator. This is like really the coaching,
- 13:59Speaker 2: the mentorship, the handholding, six months of working and supporting
- 14:03Speaker 2: you to grow. Then you're now a six figure business owner.
- 14:07Speaker 2: We have the six figure Founder Retreat, we have the
- 14:10Speaker 2: seven figure Founder Retreat. We're spoiler alert launching a mom
- 14:13Speaker 2: retreat that's happening in October that we're really excited about
- 14:16Speaker 2: called Haven. We have the Future Summit that's all about
- 14:19Speaker 2: like our innovation and creativity.
- 14:22Speaker 1: That happens.
- 14:23Speaker 2: It's a free event. One of our largest events in
- 14:25Speaker 2: Austin every year during south By, so we allow everyone
- 14:29Speaker 2: to come together there. We have dinners that are more
- 14:32Speaker 2: intimate and their application focused, so you really are like
- 14:35Speaker 2: the caliber of attendees there are completely different than any
- 14:39Speaker 2: other events that we have, and we have all these
- 14:42Speaker 2: different formats, and it was important to create different formats
- 14:45Speaker 2: for a few different reasons. Well, not everybody learns and
- 14:48Speaker 2: receives content the same, so you have to share in
- 14:51Speaker 2: a different way, right, create different experiences for them. Everybody's
- 14:55Speaker 2: nervous system is different. So maybe like these two thousand
- 14:57Speaker 2: person festivals might be overwhelmed for someone, So how can
- 15:01Speaker 2: we strategically align with how they receive information and how
- 15:05Speaker 2: they can kind of be in a space and so
- 15:07Speaker 2: thinking through that. The other part is creating content that's
- 15:11Speaker 2: relevant for you specifically, right. I touched on it earlier
- 15:14Speaker 2: as like I went to a bunch of conferences when
- 15:16Speaker 2: I worked in corporate and if it was an AI conference,
- 15:19Speaker 2: all you're learning about is AI. If you're going to
- 15:22Speaker 2: you know, see, yes, your ad week, you're focused strictly
- 15:25Speaker 2: on marketing, and like, what if I want to focus
- 15:27Speaker 2: on this? What if I want to go to an
- 15:28Speaker 2: event that has a little bit of marketing, a little
- 15:30Speaker 2: bit of finance, a little bit of tech, a little
- 15:33Speaker 2: bit of sports, a little bit you know, like I
- 15:35Speaker 2: want to pick my tracks and the information that is
- 15:38Speaker 2: relevant for me and my goals. And so we do
- 15:40Speaker 2: that for creating cultivate and so to answer your question,
- 15:43Speaker 2: like we do it through different experiences, different format and
- 15:45Speaker 2: different types of content to make sure you're supported throughout
- 15:49Speaker 2: and we're like just with you along the ride. Like
- 15:51Speaker 2: creating called phase just like simply where women go and
- 15:55Speaker 2: they're connecting their learning and they're growing together.
- 15:58Speaker 1: At all phases at all level. And I can't stress
- 16:01Speaker 1: this enough to the viewers listening in on you guys know,
- 16:04Speaker 1: live events is something I am very passionate about. I
- 16:06Speaker 1: speak about it a lot all the time because again,
- 16:09Speaker 1: to me, I'm like, my secret sauce is like get
- 16:11Speaker 1: me in the room. Like it's always been very personality driven,
- 16:14Speaker 1: Like I'm like, let me just meet someone, Like I
- 16:16Speaker 1: know I can pitch or figure it out, but it
- 16:18Speaker 1: just got to meet you, you know. And I tell people,
- 16:20Speaker 1: you know, the email pitch is so flat. They can't
- 16:23Speaker 1: feel you, they can't hear your quarks, They can't hear
- 16:25Speaker 1: how your tone goes up, or maybe how you giggle
- 16:27Speaker 1: when you whatever the human is that connects us. You know,
- 16:30Speaker 1: I've really stress the importance of in person networking. So
- 16:33Speaker 1: in terms of networking, any tips for people who are
- 16:36Speaker 1: going to sort of events around networking to really make
- 16:39Speaker 1: the most out of these events.
- 16:40Speaker 2: Yeah, So spoiler alert, I actually get crippling anxiety from networking.
- 16:44Speaker 2: I get very very irrisk to being big groups of people,
- 16:47Speaker 2: especially if they're not my own events. Like my own events,
- 16:49Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm loving it, i feel safe, I'm comfortable,
- 16:52Speaker 2: but walking into a new space is really really hard
- 16:55Speaker 2: for me, and it's something that I avoided a lot.
- 16:57Speaker 2: But I also didn't realize the privilege that I had
- 16:59Speaker 2: working in corporate because they kind of helped facilitate those intros.
- 17:03Speaker 2: You weren't doing them on your own, and so when
- 17:04Speaker 2: I went out on my own, I was like, oh, God, like,
- 17:07Speaker 2: where do I meet people? How do I connect? And
- 17:09Speaker 2: so I would avoid going to large events or large
- 17:13Speaker 2: community gatherings or anything like that. And so one of
- 17:16Speaker 2: the things that has really really helped me, especially as
- 17:18Speaker 2: like an introverted extrovert, thinking through I'm going to go
- 17:21Speaker 2: to this event, like one, how do I want to
- 17:23Speaker 2: show up? Like literally, in the car, I'm just thinking
- 17:26Speaker 2: like how do I want to show up? Like how
- 17:28Speaker 2: do I want someone to like receive who I am?
- 17:31Speaker 2: Maybe that is like calm and you know and like
- 17:34Speaker 2: not even put together, but like calm and focused and
- 17:37Speaker 2: I'm in my building stage. Or maybe I'm going and
- 17:40Speaker 2: I'm just like I want to talk about motherhood at
- 17:42Speaker 2: this specific connection. So just figuring out like what are
- 17:45Speaker 2: the like tidbits that I want to leave. That's the
- 17:47Speaker 2: first thing. It kind of grounds me in the car.
- 17:49Speaker 2: But then I have a goal of either three to
- 17:51Speaker 2: five connections depending on the event in person. Once I
- 17:54Speaker 2: make those three to five connections, I can get the
- 17:57Speaker 2: hell out of there. You know, most often than not,
- 18:00Speaker 2: once you make those connections, you don't actually want to
- 18:03Speaker 2: leave because you end up finding people that you really
- 18:06Speaker 2: really enjoy, people that are like you know, you've been
- 18:08Speaker 2: able to connect with them on a deeper level, and
- 18:10Speaker 2: you're like, oh I can stay, Yeah, I'll grab a
- 18:12Speaker 2: drink with you, or let's go take pictures here. So
- 18:14Speaker 2: that is number two and number three, Like above anything
- 18:18Speaker 2: ask others about themselves, do not feel pressure to talk
- 18:22Speaker 2: about you. There's nothing scarier than feeling like you have
- 18:25Speaker 2: to give this whole bio in person. Ask some where
- 18:29Speaker 2: are you from? What do you do? What are some
- 18:31Speaker 2: goals do you have? Like what are you working on
- 18:32Speaker 2: this season? What are you most excited about? All? Like,
- 18:36Speaker 2: just focus on them. The more you get from them, again,
- 18:38Speaker 2: the conversation will be up like ending up being so fluid.
- 18:42Speaker 2: So yeah, those are like three big ticks ground in
- 18:44Speaker 2: the car before you go in, three to five connections
- 18:47Speaker 2: and if you want to leave, after leave, but three
- 18:49Speaker 2: ask as much questions to them.
- 18:51Speaker 1: This is so epic and I love that this conversation
- 18:54Speaker 1: is like really going into networking and like how to
- 18:56Speaker 1: prepare and all of that. Are people still doing business
- 18:59Speaker 1: car cards? Are you seeing or is that still a thing?
- 19:01Speaker 1: Like I'm a print gal again, millennial business owner, target demo.
- 19:06Speaker 1: I know people are like doing digital and the pupples
- 19:08Speaker 1: and the this, but like I find this still to
- 19:11Speaker 1: be a really exciting time to have business cards. Like
- 19:14Speaker 1: do you find that your your community or that people
- 19:17Speaker 1: that go to these events should have that printed? I
- 19:19Speaker 1: always get asked that and I'm like, yeah you should,
- 19:21Speaker 1: but maybe there are other things happening.
- 19:22Speaker 2: I don't know the business cards so badly, and there's
- 19:25Speaker 2: so many times that they're like, you have a business card.
- 19:27Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't really want to give you my number.
- 19:29Speaker 2: Giving you my email seems like weird, like let me
- 19:31Speaker 2: just give you a business card. So I definitely think
- 19:34Speaker 2: you should. But I have like the digital where it's gorgeous,
- 19:38Speaker 2: you know, like you know what.
- 19:40Speaker 1: It doesn't have my number, it has a QR and
- 19:43Speaker 1: it has a general email too, so it's like kind
- 19:46Speaker 1: of our catch all. But I feel like it's cute
- 19:49Speaker 1: enough creators only, you know, something you can kind of
- 19:51Speaker 1: like hold on. It feels kind of lucky, you know,
- 19:53Speaker 1: it feels thick.
- 19:55Speaker 2: No, So I definitely see a mix I do. Really
- 19:59Speaker 2: it's interesting saying because so business cards are one way
- 20:02Speaker 2: digital obviously as a QR code. There's like the app
- 20:05Speaker 2: called Hello that you can like create your digital business
- 20:08Speaker 2: card and then it goes saves right into their phone.
- 20:10Speaker 2: The reason why I don't love that is because then
- 20:12Speaker 2: I don't know, I guess kind of lost of like hey,
- 20:14Speaker 2: what was that person's name? And so I didn't really
- 20:16Speaker 2: get it. But what I see more often than not
- 20:19Speaker 2: are on site, being like, what's your Instagram, I'll connect
- 20:23Speaker 2: with you on Instagram. What's your LinkedIn, I'll connect with
- 20:26Speaker 2: you on LinkedIn. Those really are the two things. And
- 20:30Speaker 2: I don't mind it at all because I do think
- 20:33Speaker 2: people would like to know a little bit more about
- 20:36Speaker 2: you before the connection, which is why your Instagram is
- 20:39Speaker 2: so important and your LinkedIn and your digital presence is
- 20:42Speaker 2: so important because it's a reflection of who you are.
- 20:44Speaker 2: And so if someone is like, yeah, let me see
- 20:46Speaker 2: your Instagram and you're like, I'm private, Like I don't post,
- 20:49Speaker 2: I don't have it, it's like it might be harder
- 20:51Speaker 2: for them to really understand what you do. Maybe you
- 20:53Speaker 2: don't have Instagram, Maybe you have LinkedIn great, Maybe you
- 20:55Speaker 2: have I don't know, a public Facebook page. Maybe you
- 20:58Speaker 2: have a landing page that's your like portfolio, whatever it is.
- 21:02Speaker 2: It's just like a digital presence is so important to
- 21:05Speaker 2: really ensure people get to know you a little bit
- 21:07Speaker 2: more after they leave.
- 21:09Speaker 1: So I co sign this one hundred percent so our
- 21:11Speaker 1: community comes to us. Like my niche and my specialty
- 21:14Speaker 1: is brand deals and brand partnerships, pitching, pitching, pitching, Like
- 21:17Speaker 1: I am the pitching gal. That's what we teach and
- 21:20Speaker 1: a lot of times we tell creators when you pitch
- 21:22Speaker 1: the brand is going to go check out your ig.
- 21:24Speaker 1: It's like you have to audit, right. So it's very
- 21:26Speaker 1: similar for in person networking. If you're doing some in
- 21:29Speaker 1: person networking, audit your accounts guys before you go to
- 21:32Speaker 1: make sure everything kind of looks bottled up. So when
- 21:34Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, what's your Instagram? You know, your bio
- 21:37Speaker 1: is ready, your profile shot is there. It looks clean.
- 21:40Speaker 1: It's not just like hudy this, you know, like it
- 21:42Speaker 1: has that energy so that you present professionally. Before we
- 21:45Speaker 1: move on to the festival, because I'm dying to talk
- 21:47Speaker 1: about that, I did just have one last kind of
- 21:49Speaker 1: tie in. You mentioned about the power of the personal brand,
- 21:52Speaker 1: especially when influencers are getting to a certain level or
- 21:55Speaker 1: even business owners. You know, take us for example, we
- 21:57Speaker 1: built Sidewalker Daily to where it needs to go. I'm
- 22:00Speaker 1: branching out building my personal brand. Branding is important. Now.
- 22:04Speaker 1: One thing I love about the Create Cultivate brand is
- 22:06Speaker 1: y'all's branding is next level, Like give that person a raise.
- 22:11Speaker 1: And like I said, I you know, I love everything
- 22:13Speaker 1: you guys have done from your website, but it clearly works.
- 22:16Speaker 1: So can you talk to us about the importance of
- 22:20Speaker 1: branding when it comes to presenting yourself, whether it be
- 22:23Speaker 1: online or offline.
- 22:24Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what's most important is just how we
- 22:28Speaker 2: want someone to feel about branding. That's actually why I
- 22:31Speaker 2: went into marketing for college anyway, because I love this
- 22:34Speaker 2: idea of like marketing could have could make someone do
- 22:38Speaker 2: or feel something through images, colors, words like that's so powerful.
- 22:44Speaker 2: And so I think your personal brand is simply how
- 22:46Speaker 2: you make someone feel. And so your brand has to
- 22:49Speaker 2: be consistent throughout any touch point, just has to be
- 22:52Speaker 2: the same. I say that to say it is so
- 22:54Speaker 2: important that you allow your brand to evolve. And so
- 22:57Speaker 2: I think why people sometimes rebel against, you know, personal
- 23:01Speaker 2: brands or building your personal brand or online presence or
- 23:04Speaker 2: even sometimes creators and influencers get stuck in their career
- 23:08Speaker 2: is because they're not evolving. They feel like, Hey, I've
- 23:11Speaker 2: always showed up as a and I'll use personal examples
- 23:14Speaker 2: for me, I've always showed up as a fitness competitor.
- 23:17Speaker 2: I can't talk of like I can't now rebrand as
- 23:21Speaker 2: a women in corporate now I'm a mom, Like I
- 23:24Speaker 2: really want that to be part of my personal brand,
- 23:26Speaker 2: Like how do I do that? You just do it?
- 23:29Speaker 2: Now I'm a CEO. This is a new you know,
- 23:31Speaker 2: so it's like really allow yourself to evolve and grow,
- 23:35Speaker 2: and you can do that through photoshoots that you're getting done,
- 23:38Speaker 2: like really thinking creatively on messaging, thinking creatively of like
- 23:42Speaker 2: what is your tone. One of the biggest advices that
- 23:44Speaker 2: I can give is in a world where social is first,
- 23:48Speaker 2: just because everyone's doing video, don't feel like you have
- 23:50Speaker 2: to do video just because everybody's doing photos and parsel.
- 23:52Speaker 2: Don't feel like you have.
- 23:53Speaker 1: To do it.
- 23:54Speaker 2: If you're really good at talk to camera, do that.
- 23:57Speaker 2: If you're really good at writing, maybe start a substance,
- 24:00Speaker 2: Maybe go on LinkedIn, maybe have a block, you know,
- 24:02Speaker 2: like double down on what you're really really good at
- 24:06Speaker 2: and sure like try and test new things, but like
- 24:09Speaker 2: really figure out what you're good at, because that's where
- 24:11Speaker 2: your personal brand is going to shine more than ever
- 24:14Speaker 2: for sure.
- 24:14Speaker 1: Speaking to me like I needed this today more than ever.
- 24:18Speaker 1: Just doubling down because we get overwhelmed. There's so much.
- 24:21Speaker 1: It's like I gotta do short form, I gotta do
- 24:22Speaker 1: long I gotta do video. I gotta do this. It's
- 24:24Speaker 1: like overwhelming, you know, Like this idea of like leaning in,
- 24:27Speaker 1: doubling down what you're good at and just kind of
- 24:29Speaker 1: drowning out the noise is aimen to that. Okay, So
- 24:33Speaker 1: the festival, the festival, the festival. I am so excited
- 24:37Speaker 1: to dive deep into this. It's been dubbed as the
- 24:40Speaker 1: Coachella for business women, and I think that's just gives
- 24:43Speaker 1: such a great visual. We could all see what that means.
- 24:46Speaker 1: And I read that you announcing Dochi and Ciarra. This
- 24:50Speaker 1: was like a huge career highlight for you. So what
- 24:54Speaker 1: has made this festival so personal for you?
- 24:57Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so excited for the festival. I mean, I
- 25:00Speaker 2: cannot even begin to explain what we're bringing to life.
- 25:03Speaker 2: So we launched the world's largest festival for women in business.
- 25:07Speaker 2: It is the first of its kind. It does not exist.
- 25:09Speaker 2: It's insane to think that. You know, we have over
- 25:12Speaker 2: two thousand attendees there, from students and interns all the
- 25:16Speaker 2: way to executives and CEOs and founders. We have companies
- 25:19Speaker 2: bringing to their teams. It is really this beautiful blend
- 25:22Speaker 2: of business to business and business to consumer. You'll have
- 25:25Speaker 2: everybody from like I said, corporate founders, creators, influencers, celebrities
- 25:31Speaker 2: across all industries. So we have four stages and I'll
- 25:34Speaker 2: kind of explain really the thought process there, but we
- 25:36Speaker 2: have four stages. One of those stages our center Core.
- 25:39Speaker 2: It is all focused on the business of women in
- 25:41Speaker 2: sports and highlighting sports as a whole. We have one
- 25:45Speaker 2: all for creator. Compound is a content creation It's a
- 25:48Speaker 2: two hundred and ninety billion dollar industry. Of course we're
- 25:51Speaker 2: going to have a whole stage for it talking about
- 25:53Speaker 2: and learning from some of the best companies and best
- 25:56Speaker 2: creators and influencers. Main stage is where doci's gonna, you know,
- 26:00Speaker 2: so perform and our keynotes are going to be there.
- 26:02Speaker 2: It's going to be amazing. All Things Finance that's owned
- 26:05Speaker 2: by Chase, Inc. And so it's really cool. We have
- 26:08Speaker 2: a marketplace in food hall, We have live demos, We
- 26:11Speaker 2: have a wellness DN so that allows you to have
- 26:13Speaker 2: like massages and soundbath and like sensory moments throughout the festival.
- 26:18Speaker 2: And so, you know, I share all of those things
- 26:20Speaker 2: because they're so important to create what's so different and
- 26:24Speaker 2: what doesn't exist there? Right? You know, the festivals traditional
- 26:28Speaker 2: musical festivals, and there are a lot and you probably
- 26:31Speaker 2: end up leaving like overwhelmed and hungover and burnt out,
- 26:33Speaker 2: and you probably didn't met anybody besides your friends. And
- 26:35Speaker 2: sure they're fun, but like you don't really get much
- 26:38Speaker 2: out of them. Then there's the business conferences that exist,
- 26:41Speaker 2: and they've always exist, and they're very stagnant and stale,
- 26:45Speaker 2: even if they change their locations, like it just doesn't
- 26:48Speaker 2: really land. And we know Creating Cultivate is truly the
- 26:51Speaker 2: best at producing events like that is hands down our
- 26:55Speaker 2: bread and butter. That's what we do. So we blended
- 26:57Speaker 2: those like business conference and music festivals together to bring
- 27:01Speaker 2: the world's Art as festival for women in business. I
- 27:03Speaker 2: think the other thing I was going to say is
- 27:05Speaker 2: like it was important for me to create it specifically
- 27:08Speaker 2: in this new Create and Cultivate two point zero because women,
- 27:12Speaker 2: like everyone's eyes on women right now right women's sports,
- 27:15Speaker 2: in political offices, all this, like everything is like, oh,
- 27:18Speaker 2: what's this woman doing?
- 27:19Speaker 3: What? You know, how is she growing? How's she balancing work?
- 27:22Speaker 3: How is she going to be a mom and working
- 27:23Speaker 3: as a founder? Oh, she's starting her business? Like all
- 27:26Speaker 3: of these that investing there's so many different things women
- 27:29Speaker 3: are doing and it's all kind of magnified. However, women
- 27:33Speaker 3: only get these small spaces at events, right, You'll see cs.
- 27:37Speaker 2: AD week cans anywhere. It's just like a small little
- 27:41Speaker 2: lounge and it's just for women, or a small little
- 27:44Speaker 2: pop up just for women. It's like, no, no, we
- 27:46Speaker 2: need the whole event to be focused on how we
- 27:49Speaker 2: can grow. We control twenty trillion dollars worth of consumer spend, like,
- 27:53Speaker 2: we literally are the decision makers. Why wouldn't we have
- 27:56Speaker 2: one focus, one event that is focused on ampleing us
- 28:00Speaker 2: so we can pour back into the economy. And so
- 28:02Speaker 2: that's why we brought the festival to life. And it's
- 28:05Speaker 2: been truly insane to see the support, the tickets that
- 28:10Speaker 2: are sold, the sponsors that are doubling down on their
- 28:12Speaker 2: investment in person, Like, it's really crazy, and our lineup
- 28:15Speaker 2: is crazy.
- 28:16Speaker 1: Obviously your lineup is insane. And I'm gonna link everything
- 28:19Speaker 1: below so people that are looking for this type of
- 28:21Speaker 1: immersive Coachella for business women experience, you know, can enjoy
- 28:25Speaker 1: the festival. Did you guys just kind of like think
- 28:27Speaker 1: of this on the sofa, Like this feels like one
- 28:29Speaker 1: of those ideas that like you think of and then
- 28:31Speaker 1: you're like, oh yeah, like the execution of it. And
- 28:34Speaker 1: I feel like your team are just the definition of
- 28:36Speaker 1: doers because everyone wants to dream but executing. So like,
- 28:40Speaker 1: when did you guys come up with this? And like,
- 28:42Speaker 1: was it just kind of like this aha that you're like,
- 28:45Speaker 1: we need to do this because I'm like, I think
- 28:47Speaker 1: about my journey as my business. Like we were talking
- 28:49Speaker 1: about the other day, we're like Coachella, like love you
- 28:52Speaker 1: just not where I'm at right now in my life personally.
- 28:56Speaker 1: And it's not to say that I can't find space
- 28:58Speaker 1: for it maybe down the road. I have my kids
- 29:00Speaker 1: are in a funky age five and eleven, Like I
- 29:02Speaker 1: just I'm really pouring my love into my family and
- 29:05Speaker 1: my business at the moment, you know, And how did
- 29:08Speaker 1: you guys kind of idea, generate this awesome concept and
- 29:11Speaker 1: then decide internally as a team we're executing because this
- 29:14Speaker 1: is a big endeavor.
- 29:16Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's yes, it is big, and you're talking
- 29:18Speaker 2: to me ten weeks before, so this is like also
- 29:20Speaker 2: a rare sighting of me because it was not actually
- 29:24Speaker 2: yeah doing ten weeks now. It's it's so crazy. So
- 29:27Speaker 2: the good. The one thing that like I would say
- 29:29Speaker 2: is my superpower is like execution, like and Jacqueline's superpower
- 29:33Speaker 2: is also like visionary and dreaming bigger. And so it's
- 29:36Speaker 2: really cool to be able to build together with her.
- 29:38Speaker 2: When we bought the business, she we sat down and
- 29:41Speaker 2: she asked, if you could do anything, if you could
- 29:44Speaker 2: build anything and change anything for creating, cultivate, what would
- 29:47Speaker 2: that look like? What would you want to bring to life?
- 29:49Speaker 2: And I was so so gung ho on this festival,
- 29:52Speaker 2: Like I was felt so strong on making something this
- 29:57Speaker 2: large and that grows year over year. We're doing this
- 29:59Speaker 2: every and it's only going to get bigger. And like
- 30:01Speaker 2: so we did it. We just decided like, hey, we're
- 30:04Speaker 2: going to do this. This is how we're gonna do it.
- 30:05Speaker 2: We're gonna build this team, we're this is a location.
- 30:07Speaker 2: She really drives the creativity, what the stages look like,
- 30:10Speaker 2: what's the feel of the event. I drive all financials
- 30:14Speaker 2: and everything that comes to, you know, around the wording,
- 30:17Speaker 2: the messaging, the marketing and the and the finance of
- 30:20Speaker 2: the event. And so we kind of double team it
- 30:22Speaker 2: and yeah and.
- 30:24Speaker 1: Just go for it. And it's like just do it.
- 30:26Speaker 1: Do it scared do it anyways? Like just having these
- 30:29Speaker 1: dreams and making them come to life. I love that.
- 30:31Speaker 1: And in terms of like success, you're in the ten
- 30:33Speaker 1: week I'm sure, like you said, this is a rare sighting,
- 30:35Speaker 1: So thank you for making the time when you guys
- 30:38Speaker 1: do a reflection. And outside of the numbers, what would
- 30:42Speaker 1: success look like for you all for this event? What
- 30:45Speaker 1: does success look like?
- 30:46Speaker 2: I think success looks like for me, And it's less
- 30:49Speaker 2: financial numbers. It's more of the volume. Success will be
- 30:53Speaker 2: all two thousand people there, like success will be seeing
- 30:57Speaker 2: women like cry and hug and feel like they like
- 31:01Speaker 2: really feel transformed. I think for us, as a first
- 31:04Speaker 2: time festival, the world's largest festival, what success means is
- 31:08Speaker 2: like an accomplished event that people are like, well I
- 31:11Speaker 2: get it now, you know, like I get what you're building.
- 31:14Speaker 2: Because there's so many people that are like, hey, we'd
- 31:16Speaker 2: love to talk about twenty twenty six, And it's like
- 31:17Speaker 2: always say are you sure, like are you sure listen
- 31:22Speaker 2: today's or what is it? What's the what does Fat
- 31:24Speaker 2: Joe say? He says, like the day prices is not
- 31:27Speaker 2: tomorrow's or do you know like it's gonna go up?
- 31:30Speaker 2: Prices go up.
- 31:31Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's not wrong. I mean I
- 31:34Speaker 1: we put on like a sixty five person Creator retreat
- 31:38Speaker 1: last summer, and I remember just being like saying, you
- 31:40Speaker 1: know again, this is like a drop in the bucket,
- 31:42Speaker 1: this is what you guys always do. And we realized, wow,
- 31:44Speaker 1: in person events are so hard, yet they're so fulfilling.
- 31:48Speaker 1: And I think anyone listening in, like I've said one
- 31:51Speaker 1: hundred times again, the magic of the in person beats everything.
- 31:56Speaker 1: You know, it just beats everything. And it's something that
- 31:59Speaker 1: I know our team is going to look to do
- 32:01Speaker 1: more of now that you've taken this huge undertaking. Before
- 32:04Speaker 1: we wrap up today's interview, I do want to talk
- 32:06Speaker 1: about an element that many of us would be like, well,
- 32:09Speaker 1: how does she do this? How is she planning two
- 32:11Speaker 1: thousand person event all whilst being a mother? And this
- 32:14Speaker 1: concept of motherhood. I know I've read on your Instagram
- 32:18Speaker 1: you talked about, you know, being a single mom at
- 32:21Speaker 1: twenty three and like building your son's crib alone, and like,
- 32:26Speaker 1: now look where you are, like just fast forward. Can
- 32:29Speaker 1: I have it all? Can I do it all? Is
- 32:31Speaker 1: this possible? I think your living proof that it is.
- 32:33Speaker 1: But maybe you could share some words to the moms
- 32:35Speaker 1: listening in or the parents in general, just about how
- 32:39Speaker 1: that inevitable trade off that one may feel.
- 32:42Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's interesting. I had Sebastian when I
- 32:45Speaker 2: was twenty three, so like he kind of grew up
- 32:47Speaker 2: with me in the sense of like and was with
- 32:50Speaker 2: me throughout my career as I continued to you know,
- 32:53Speaker 2: leave New York and find a job here and start
- 32:56Speaker 2: working at Yahoo that was my first big corporate job,
- 32:59Speaker 2: and then go out on my own and then buying,
- 33:01Speaker 2: create and cultivate. Like he's kind of just like rode
- 33:03Speaker 2: this out with me throughout, and so he just feels
- 33:06Speaker 2: like we're just like growing up together. You know. It's
- 33:09Speaker 2: like kind of one of my favorite things about being
- 33:11Speaker 2: a mom. But it's interesting because I had to remove
- 33:14Speaker 2: the word guilty from my vocabulary very early on. Again,
- 33:18Speaker 2: I was twenty three, I was single, I was trying
- 33:21Speaker 2: to find a better job, I was, you know, trying
- 33:24Speaker 2: to build my life, and I always felt really guilty
- 33:26Speaker 2: for doing that, and so I had to remove that
- 33:29Speaker 2: and I had to shift and say, oh, it's not guilt,
- 33:31Speaker 2: it's just sadness. I feel sad that I'm not with Sebastian.
- 33:34Speaker 2: I feel sad that I have to, like you know,
- 33:37Speaker 2: sacrifice a little time here, a little time there. And
- 33:39Speaker 2: so I think over the years, I've kind of programmed
- 33:42Speaker 2: on myself to understand that there's certain things that I
- 33:45Speaker 2: kind of have to give to get something else. And
- 33:47Speaker 2: so there's different seasons in your life. So if if
- 33:49Speaker 2: you're a mom and you're listening, just know that, like,
- 33:52Speaker 2: there are different seasons, and it's okay to have a
- 33:55Speaker 2: tougher season to get to an easier season or more
- 33:58Speaker 2: like privileged season. And so that's like one of the
- 34:01Speaker 2: things that kind of keeps me grounded. I think the
- 34:03Speaker 2: other thing is I have a very very very strict
- 34:06Speaker 2: like boundaries that I implement, and so you know, before
- 34:10Speaker 2: I do anything, like even for the year. Again, we're
- 34:12Speaker 2: in events business, so we do events throughout the year.
- 34:14Speaker 2: Like his birthday, I block off. He has soccer as basketball,
- 34:19Speaker 2: like I try to make it to everything. Shonda Rhime
- 34:22Speaker 2: said something during an interview that really hit me. She said,
- 34:26Speaker 2: if you see me succeeding in one area, know that
- 34:28Speaker 2: I'm failing in another. If you see me on stage
- 34:32Speaker 2: at Creating Cultivate or at a retreat during the school year,
- 34:35Speaker 2: know that I'm missing bedtime or know that I'm missing
- 34:38Speaker 2: a football game, or know that I'm missing a basketball game,
- 34:40Speaker 2: like those things happen. But on the flip side, like
- 34:43Speaker 2: if I'm doing bedtime and making dinners, I'm not answering
- 34:46Speaker 2: my emails, I'm not answering slack like know that there's
- 34:49Speaker 2: something that's being like given up and that is okay,
- 34:53Speaker 2: that's part of it. And so there's no like I
- 34:55Speaker 2: wish I could tell everybody that they could do it all,
- 34:58Speaker 2: and I think that online I show that it feels
- 35:00Speaker 2: like I do it all. But trust me, like there's
- 35:02Speaker 2: a lot of times that I mom facetimes while I'm
- 35:04Speaker 2: traveling and I'm like, I'm sorry aboud, like I'll be home.
- 35:07Speaker 2: You know, I'll be home soon, like I can't wait,
- 35:09Speaker 2: and we make the best out of it. But I
- 35:11Speaker 2: just pour my heart into anything that I'm at during
- 35:14Speaker 2: that time.
- 35:14Speaker 1: Into how old is your son? Again?
- 35:16Speaker 2: Nine?
- 35:17Speaker 1: Okay? So funny enough. I brought my eleven year old
- 35:19Speaker 1: to like the office, take your take your daughter to
- 35:21Speaker 1: work day, And when I tell you, like the eleven
- 35:24Speaker 1: years I've put into my business to see her little
- 35:27Speaker 1: face being like, my mom is low key cool and
- 35:30Speaker 1: she's you know, proud in this this way that I
- 35:33Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, it filled me in a
- 35:34Speaker 1: way that I've never felt to see. Also, your kids
- 35:39Speaker 1: look up to you in a way and see that
- 35:40Speaker 1: hard work pays off. Like it is more emotional for
- 35:43Speaker 1: me than any of it. I was like, it's worth it,
- 35:45Speaker 1: or the office, her lighting up, being like, my mom
- 35:48Speaker 1: is cool.
- 35:49Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's so funny. So Sebastian, it comes to
- 35:52Speaker 2: a lot of things with my husband, Matt and I.
- 35:54Speaker 2: Matt is also an entrepreneur. He also does large scale
- 35:57Speaker 2: festivals and conferences as well. And you know, we take
- 36:01Speaker 2: Sebastian out for a week in September from school and
- 36:04Speaker 2: every single September, We've done it for three years now.
- 36:07Speaker 2: And he comes to MAT's conference and festival in California,
- 36:11Speaker 2: and it's like watching this little boy just walk around
- 36:15Speaker 2: and in awe of the activations and the stages and
- 36:18Speaker 2: sitting through a conversation about I don't know, like wealth advisors.
- 36:22Speaker 2: Like it's the coolest thing to see him see the
- 36:26Speaker 2: end result. And I think that that is the biggest thing,
- 36:29Speaker 2: is like he gets to see the end result because
- 36:31Speaker 2: he's living in the process every single day. He sees
- 36:35Speaker 2: when we're on calls, he sees when you know, we're
- 36:37Speaker 2: we're traveling, and so to be able to see the
- 36:39Speaker 2: end result and be like, oh, that's what my parents
- 36:41Speaker 2: are doing, like they're so proud of us. And so
- 36:43Speaker 2: I think it's a privilege that our kids get to
- 36:45Speaker 2: see us do this for sure.
- 36:46Speaker 1: And for many of us also, our children are a
- 36:49Speaker 1: force of why we do what we do. We want
- 36:51Speaker 1: to build better lives, we want to live the dreams
- 36:54Speaker 1: our parents didn't get to, you know, all these things.
- 36:56Speaker 1: And I think that for those of us that are
- 36:59Speaker 1: looking to start and really ramp in our businesses, but
- 37:02Speaker 1: that's why we got to invest in ourselves, right, whether
- 37:04Speaker 1: it's through mentorship or in person. Yeah, also for our
- 37:08Speaker 1: families because of legacy that we're building too. Instead of
- 37:11Speaker 1: having that what if I could, should, I would have.
- 37:14Speaker 1: You're also a role modeling for your kids. I mean
- 37:16Speaker 1: therapy one oh one. Your kids get what you model.
- 37:19Speaker 1: You model fear. They're getting fear. You model resilience and confidence.
- 37:23Speaker 1: And my mom wants an event by herself, or my
- 37:26Speaker 1: mom is doing this, or it's funny I'm talking to
- 37:29Speaker 1: my therapist about anxiety. How do you prevent a child
- 37:31Speaker 1: from being anxious? You got to model it. The work
- 37:34Speaker 1: is on you, it's not on them. They just soak
- 37:36Speaker 1: up what you are. So if we walk into spaces
- 37:39Speaker 1: without fear holding us back, if we walk into conversations,
- 37:42Speaker 1: if we pitch the CEO of creating cultivate and say, hey,
- 37:44Speaker 1: come on a podcast, let's do this like they model
- 37:47Speaker 1: these activations and it seeps into them. So a big
- 37:51Speaker 1: part of entrepreneurship, especially for the parents out there, is
- 37:53Speaker 1: just modeling, and we gotta do it first. We can't
- 37:56Speaker 1: expect them to do it for us. We got to
- 37:58Speaker 1: do it first. You know.
- 38:00Speaker 2: I love that.
- 38:00Speaker 1: So awesome, Marina, thank you so much for your time,
- 38:03Speaker 1: your vulnerability, sharing so much around not only the festival,
- 38:07Speaker 1: the power of in person events, your journey. We're so excited.
- 38:11Speaker 1: I'm going to link and every thing below, but in
- 38:13Speaker 1: the meantime, can you let us know how we can
- 38:15Speaker 1: connect with you all.
- 38:16Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, thank you so much for having me. This
- 38:18Speaker 2: was so much fun, and I hope that you know
- 38:19Speaker 2: your community was able to take some nuggets away that
- 38:22Speaker 2: they can borrow and implement. And you know their day
- 38:25Speaker 2: to day, but you can find me on Instagram. That's
- 38:27Speaker 2: kind of where I hang always. Marina A. Middleton and
- 38:29Speaker 2: then in La for our festival July nineteenth.
- 38:32Speaker 1: Yes, create cultivate the festival. Guys, It's going to be
- 38:36Speaker 1: an epic experience and I know that so many people
- 38:39Speaker 1: in the community are going to benefit. So we'll either
- 38:41Speaker 1: see you in La or in the next episode. Thanks everyone,