Are Red Meat Warnings Based on Flawed Science? Dr. David Klurfeld on Nutrition Myths and Industry Bias

The Dr. Gabrielle Lyon Show · Jun 17, 2025 · 1h 49m

In this episode, I sit down with Dr. David Klurfeld—longtime USDA scientist and one of the few insiders to publicly challenge the WHO's classification of red meat as a carcinogen. We go deep into the flawed evidence behind the infamous 2015 IARC report, why nutritional epidemiology often fails to prove causality, and how a small group of researchers helped shape global policy with low-quality science. If you've ever felt confused about meat, saturated fat, or dietary guidelines, this conversation will help you think critically about what “counts” as evidence—and who gets to decide.

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