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How to have a sustainable Christmas · She's On The Money

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Speaker 1: She's on the Money. She's on the Money.
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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast
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Speaker 2: for millennials who want financial freedom. Last week we went
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Speaker 2: deep on the twelve Saves of Christmas, but today we
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Speaker 2: want to talk a little bit more about sustainability when
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Speaker 2: it comes to gifting this festive season. My name is
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Speaker 2: Georgia King, and joining me as always is financial advisor
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Speaker 2: Victoria Divine Vhi. We have a couple of little disclaimers
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Speaker 2: we want to rattle off before we get into the
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Speaker 2: main chat today, don't we.
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Speaker 3: That we do? And I think it's really important to
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Speaker 3: ratt all these off because when we're talking about gifting
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Speaker 3: and talking about spending money, that is not a privilege
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Speaker 3: that is extended to every single person in our She's
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Speaker 3: on the Money community. And I know as well as
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Speaker 3: the rest of our community knows that this Christmas for
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Speaker 3: some people is going to be a really tough one.
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Speaker 3: It's not a new thing, which is really sad. But
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Speaker 3: I just wanted to at the start of this episode
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Speaker 3: really acknowledge our privilege because we do know that not
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Speaker 3: everyone can afford Christmas presents this year, but also not
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Speaker 3: everyone can afford fancy sustainable products, but we can definitely
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Speaker 3: all shop a little bit more responsibly and shop less,
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Speaker 3: which is also a huge piece of this whole puzzle.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's exactly right. So yeah, thank you for
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Speaker 2: kind of clarifying that up the top. I think that's
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Speaker 2: really important.
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Speaker 3: I just think it's really important because if we're going
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Speaker 3: to do episodes, this one was really really requested and
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Speaker 3: obviously we were really excited about doing it. But also
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Speaker 3: when we do whole episodes on gifting, sometimes you're like, oh, well,
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Speaker 3: this might not actually resonate with some people, and that's okay.
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Speaker 3: If this episode isn't your episode, that's totally cool. But
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Speaker 3: I'm so grateful that people want our advice on these topics, George,
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Speaker 3: and they reach out and say, hey, like, how would
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Speaker 3: I do this? Or is this a money when or not?
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Speaker 3: Like these are the conversations we like having with our community,
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Speaker 3: and I think that that's fun regardless of the situation you're.
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Speaker 2: In, one hundred percent, and I think when it comes
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Speaker 2: to sustainability as well, there's definitely a perception that it's
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Speaker 2: the more expensive route to kind of head down, and
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Speaker 2: that is the case with some of these higher quality,
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Speaker 2: more sustainable ethical brands, they are more expensive, but we're
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Speaker 2: not necessarily just talking about that today. We're talking about
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Speaker 2: a series of ways that you can save money while
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Speaker 2: also shopping sustainably. So before we do get into those tips, Fee,
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Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you exactly what the impacts of
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Speaker 2: our Christmas consumption are on the planet right now. It's
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Speaker 2: actually really scary, George, you're ready talk to me to
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Speaker 2: strap yourself in. The amount of waste reproduce increases by
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Speaker 2: thirty percent at Christmas time, which makes sense when you
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Speaker 2: break it down, and if you think about how much
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Speaker 2: wrapping paper and sticky tape and trees and gifts and
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Speaker 2: food and packaging all gets thrown away in your household,
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Speaker 2: especially at Christmas time, you kind of go, oh, A
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Speaker 2: thirty percent increase does make sense. We also produce, George,
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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five thousand tons of waste, which,
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Speaker 2: if you calculate that out, one hundred and twenty five
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Speaker 2: million kilos just from plastic packaging. Wow, that's so many
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Speaker 2: kilos of plastic packaging.
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Speaker 3: We also spend an extra five hundred and fifty four
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Speaker 3: million dollars on food at this time, and a third
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Speaker 3: of that ends up going to waste. So we really
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Speaker 3: need to start being way more sensible when it comes
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Speaker 3: to the silly season.
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Speaker 2: Well that's the thing, isn't it, Because you kind of
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Speaker 2: everyone would think of gifts, but you don't really think
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Speaker 2: about the other things that you're throwing away, like the
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Speaker 2: food waste, the alcohol waste, the packaging waste. Like there's
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Speaker 2: so much to it, which I guess is what we're
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Speaker 2: discussing today. Let's get into our top tips. The first
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Speaker 2: point I have here is really simple, and you mentioned
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Speaker 2: it at the top of the show. Our first tip
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Speaker 2: is just to shop less.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a really easy kind of tip, right,
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Speaker 3: I mean, but it's also not the easiest tip to implement,
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Speaker 3: is it?
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Speaker 2: Like?
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Speaker 3: I feel like so many of us have the resolve
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Speaker 3: and we go, oh my gosh, this year, I'm going
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Speaker 3: to shop less, But what does that actually mean? Does
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Speaker 3: it mean Georgia King gets less presence? Because if so,
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Speaker 3: like I'm probably not going to buy you less presence?
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Speaker 3: Does that make sense? So it's harder to buy less
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Speaker 3: than we actually think it is. But it's pretty plain
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Speaker 3: and simple. If we buy less, the better we are
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Speaker 3: doing for our planet. And gee, as we mentioned in
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Speaker 3: last week's episode, Australian's a tip to spend twenty three
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Speaker 3: point nine billion dollars this year. That's ridiculous.
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Speaker 2: That's too much money.
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Speaker 3: That's actually insane. I genuinely think if we shift our
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Speaker 3: thinking and opt for fewer, higher quality gifts instead of
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Speaker 3: buying cheaper items that will likely be thrown out within
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Speaker 3: six months to a year, then that's a really good
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Speaker 3: place to start. In fact, g you and I were
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Speaker 3: having this conversation earlier today, and I don't know if
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Speaker 3: this is going to length strike no with some people
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Speaker 3: in our community, but I've obviously just gotten engaged and
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Speaker 3: low key. I already booked the wedding because if I'm
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Speaker 3: not a type AI kind of person, I don't know
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Speaker 3: who I am, So if anything, I'm organized. But I
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Speaker 3: started having this conversation with you about those bridesmaids boxes, yes,
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Speaker 3: and how I'm just not going to do them because
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Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, like I'll obviously give my bridesmaids what
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Speaker 3: they need, et cetera. But I just I feel like
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Speaker 3: every time I've been gifted one or I've seen them,
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Speaker 3: I'm like, what do people do with that stuff?
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Speaker 2: Like?
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Speaker 3: Is it reasonable? Is it fair? So I think this
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Speaker 3: whole why less actually extends into lots of areas of
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Speaker 3: our lives, like how do we just buy one quality
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Speaker 3: gift instead of, you know, something that looks big and
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Speaker 3: extravagant has lots of packaging.
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Speaker 2: Well what do you think though, V, Because I know
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Speaker 2: a lot of families do stockings, for example, and yeah,
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Speaker 2: you know you want to fill them to the brim
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Speaker 2: because that's the excitement of it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and little kids love stockings. Like one of my
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Speaker 3: favorite Christmas memories is getting al Santa sac and sitting
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Speaker 3: on mom and Dad's bed and going through them and
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Speaker 3: opening our present and at the same time Mum being like, oh, well,
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Speaker 3: why don't you open that one? And Alex opened that
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Speaker 3: one because like obviously she packed them and didn't want
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Speaker 3: us opening presents at different times because we always got
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Speaker 3: the same thing. So I'd be like, oh, how does
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Speaker 3: she know which ones we should open? That's so weird.
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Speaker 3: Maybe her and Santa are colluding.
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Speaker 2: Mystery, But so how do you do that sustainably? Then?
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Speaker 2: Be if we're encouraging, like we both have such special
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Speaker 2: memories of those stockings when we were growing up, how
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Speaker 2: can you do that more? Sustainably just opt for less,
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Speaker 2: smaller stockings.
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Speaker 3: I think opt for less, but again, kids love opening stockings,
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Speaker 3: so potentially converting that into things that we actually need.
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Speaker 3: So something that my mum was really good at and
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Speaker 3: maybe we should have just got the Jude Star onto
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Speaker 3: the podcast today to have this conversation is we would
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Speaker 3: end up getting things we needed in our Santa Sax,
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Speaker 3: so I was equally happy to get a toothbrush as
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Speaker 3: I was some other present so often, and I'm not
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Speaker 3: saying she was doing this for sustainable reasons. I think
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Speaker 3: she was just being really practical. We would get new socks,
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Speaker 3: new undies, we would end up with our pajamas, we'd
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Speaker 3: get toothbrushes, we'd get some lollies and stuff like that.
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Speaker 3: But everything that was put into our Santa Sacks wasn't
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Speaker 3: just stuff that we would lose after six months. And
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Speaker 3: arguably kids do need new things like pajamas. And I
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Speaker 3: remember a few years in a row we'd get like
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Speaker 3: swimwear because obviously here in Australia it's summer, so new
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Speaker 3: pair of bodies or a swimsuit never went astray. So
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Speaker 3: I think it's about thinking about how you can pack
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Speaker 3: them full of exciting things that you actually need as
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Speaker 3: opposed to just feeling it full of stuff for the
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Speaker 3: sake of stuff.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, love it, good good calls. Okay, So our next
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Speaker 2: tip here is to ditch the wrapping paper. Yes, talk
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Speaker 2: us through.
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Speaker 3: I feel like this is such a fun tip because
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Speaker 3: a lot of people are going to be like, isn't
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Speaker 3: that half the reason we give presents so we can
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Speaker 3: watch other people unwrap them. But as much as wrapping
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Speaker 3: paper is lovely and usually gorgeous, unfortunately it's really bad
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Speaker 3: for the environment and not so fun. Fact, at Christmas
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Speaker 3: we use one hundred and fifty thousand kilometers of wrapping paper.
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Speaker 3: That's ridiculous. That's a lot of kilometers.
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Speaker 2: That's heaps of kilometers.
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Speaker 3: That's heaps of kilometers. It also often can't be recycled either,
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Speaker 3: even though it's paper, because it usually has glittery styles
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Speaker 3: or foil or coloring that actually can't be reused or recycled.
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Speaker 3: Another idea, George, is to get more creative and wrap
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Speaker 3: things in paper you already have around the house, like
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Speaker 3: newspaper or magazines, or wrap them in teatowels, or you
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Speaker 3: could put them in your grocery green bags, which is
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Speaker 3: very fun. But a hot tip from my friend Harriet,
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Speaker 3: who listens to every single episode because she's a dream
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Speaker 3: human being. She I'm pretty sure I got this tip
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Speaker 3: from her. If not, she can have full credit for it. Anyway,
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Speaker 3: go to op shops and buy those pretty scarves and
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Speaker 3: then use them to wrap your presence.
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Speaker 2: Ah how cute?
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Speaker 3: Right? Like, Yeah, the little silky scars you can tie
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Speaker 3: cute knots at the top and pot your tag on
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Speaker 3: and honestly, they look so gorgeous and they will only
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Speaker 3: cost a couple of dollars from the op shop. Arguably
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Speaker 3: that's what you were going to spend on wrapping paper anyway.
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Speaker 3: But you're bringing new lease of life to something that
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Speaker 3: was going to go to waste, which I think is
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Speaker 3: really special.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: If, though, g you can't part ways with wrapping paper,
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Speaker 3: we get it. We're not everything to everyone. Then there
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Speaker 3: are a couple of really sustainable brands to consider, like
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Speaker 3: Inky Co and the Brown paper Bag Packaging, which we
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Speaker 3: will link to in the show notes beautiful.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, they're more sustainable options.
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be going op shopping, though, I want to
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Speaker 3: go op shopping for scarves.
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Speaker 2: I do like that idea, But don't you think it
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Speaker 2: is weird that we've just gotten used to wrapping our presents,
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Speaker 2: Like it doesn't really make that much sense because we
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Speaker 2: just throw away the wrapping paper straight away, like it's
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Speaker 2: so wasteful.
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Speaker 3: I agree, but I also think that wrapping it up
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Speaker 3: is like special and when you get a gift wrapped present,
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Speaker 3: it like still holds some of the surprise. Like if
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Speaker 3: I turned up to your house and I had a
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Speaker 3: st you'd be like, oh, when present time comes, the
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Speaker 3: soaps just sitting under the tree and like, George, that's yours.
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Speaker 3: You're like cool, I Rudy saw it, like there's no
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Speaker 3: surprise or magic to it. So I think it's about
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Speaker 3: maintaining that surprise and magic as well as being a
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Speaker 3: little bit more sustainable. I know. Another hot tip that
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Speaker 3: I'm going to bring up here is one of our
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Speaker 3: family friends actually makes their own wrapping paper. So throughout
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Speaker 3: the year they collect all of the brown paper from
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Speaker 3: our brown paper shopping bags and then they get eco
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Speaker 3: friendly paints at Christmas time and the kids decorate the bags,
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Speaker 3: so they cut them up and use the paper to
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Speaker 3: make Christmas paper. So the kids like use their hands
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Speaker 3: and do hand prints and then like decorate them with like,
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Speaker 3: you know, little pomp poms and stuff like that, which
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Speaker 3: I think is so so cute but also arguably really sustainable,
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Speaker 3: because George, I think every one of us has been
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Speaker 3: guilty at some point or another during the last year
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Speaker 3: of going to the supermarket without our green bags and
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Speaker 3: maybe getting one of the paper bags. So why not
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Speaker 3: use that?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great tip. Our next little point here,
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Speaker 2: v is to make our own gifts, like our own
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Speaker 2: wrapping paper. Can you kind of extrapolate on this? I
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Speaker 2: know we did touch on it last week, but just
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Speaker 2: a little refresher.
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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie I'd be much better at making
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Speaker 3: wrapping paper than your actual Christmas present. But if you
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Speaker 3: didn't listen to last week's episode, please go back and
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Speaker 3: do it. Georgia shared some very good tips on making
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Speaker 3: Christmas presents. We also chatted about Christmas crack, which I
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Speaker 3: will be making for the loved ones in my life
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Speaker 3: and we'll be showing you guys on Instagram Live soon
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Speaker 3: as well. I promise Georgia, this time, Jess and I
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Speaker 3: will not be setting the kitchen on fire like I
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Speaker 3: did last time. We tried to cook pasta, which literally,
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Speaker 3: when I say we set the kitchen on fire, no,
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Speaker 3: I literally did. It was arguably very embarrassing. We also
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Speaker 3: chatted on that episode, George about framing your own photos,
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Speaker 3: which was an epic idea from you.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much and even welcome. If you're like
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Speaker 2: me and you're just not a crafty gal, but you
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Speaker 2: have an oven and hands, then set yourself up with
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Speaker 2: some baked goods. Like, honestly, most of us can bake.
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Speaker 2: We can all bake. It's cheap as can eat the
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Speaker 2: batter all of us can.
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Speaker 3: But chriss crack is almost full proof, I'm telling you right.
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Speaker 2: Now and going hard on the Christmas crowd do I
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Speaker 2: really do?
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Speaker 3: And anybody who's had it, it's going to be like
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Speaker 3: I can understand why. Anyone who hasn't going to be
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Speaker 3: really confused. But the more rustic it looks the better,
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Speaker 3: and like rustic is how I cook.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, okay. Our last little tip before we
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Speaker 2: head to the break V is to shop locally and
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Speaker 2: to choose brands that are doing really good work in
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Speaker 2: the sustainability space. Talk us through it.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely After the year that was, the more local we
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Speaker 3: can shop, the better supporting small business is always a
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Speaker 3: priority for She's on the money. That's why I literally
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Speaker 3: started another podcast called The Business Bible, because I literally
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Speaker 3: love small business. When we shop local, we're reducing our
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Speaker 3: impact on the environment by not creating emissions from freight depends.
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Speaker 3: Maybe there was a little bit, but there's argue a
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Speaker 3: lot less. Plus there's no packaging from ordering online, which
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Speaker 3: I think so many of us, especially during this season,
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Speaker 3: our forgetting is existing. Like if you order something online,
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Speaker 3: it arguably comes with a truckload of packaging. The amount
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Speaker 3: of times I've ordered from Amazon George and gotten one
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Speaker 3: small thing and the biggest box you've ever seen is embarrassing.
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Speaker 3: Like I actually get really mad about it because I'm like,
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Speaker 3: this is so unnecessary, Like if there was an option
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Speaker 3: to have things delivered unpackaged, I would tick that box.
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Speaker 3: But back to what we were talking about before, before
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Speaker 3: I go on another victoria around, there's obviously added benefit
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Speaker 3: for supporting small retailers. As I said before, we've had
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Speaker 3: a pretty rough couple of years, and supporting small business
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Speaker 3: is always just so much nicer.
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Speaker 2: Another handy tip v I know where obviously from the Peninsula,
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Speaker 2: and there are so many like Nina from the Niche.
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Speaker 2: There are so many cute little boutiques down here and
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Speaker 2: it's a really good way of finding local artists that
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Speaker 2: you can buy from.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, which I really like, so you'll go into them
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Speaker 3: and they often stock really good local brands. Like one
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Speaker 3: of your friends has a jewelry brand? Am I wrong?
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Speaker 2: Georgia King I have, I have a few friends. There's
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Speaker 2: Chloe Sophia and also Lacey Jewelry, Kate mcindo so pretty, ah, incredible, incredible,
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Speaker 2: So many great artists down here on the Mornington Peninsula,
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Speaker 2: so check them out.
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Speaker 3: And they're all obviously friends with Georgia, so fancy pants
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Speaker 3: Georgia is there?
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Speaker 2: No, We'll link them in the show notes, so for sure.
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Speaker 3: Another hot tip is actually head out to the markets
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Speaker 3: I know down on the peninsula where we're from. They
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Speaker 3: have incredible markets like Amu Planes where local makers sell
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Speaker 3: their incredible produce and creation. So if you're in Melbourne,
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Speaker 3: definitely check that out. But also if you're into State,
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Speaker 3: I have no doubt that there will be incredible Christmas
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Speaker 3: markets popping up near you, so do your research and
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Speaker 3: shop that way because it's actually really fun. Often the
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Speaker 3: owners of those brands are the ones that you meet
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Speaker 3: at the markets as well, so you can be like,
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Speaker 3: oh my gosh, why did you make these? And you
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Speaker 3: get the backstory. So when you get to give those
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Speaker 3: cute to your girlfriend, you could be like, oh my gosh,
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Speaker 3: so I met the person who made these and they
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Speaker 3: picked this color because of this reason, and it's made
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Speaker 3: of this, this and this, and I just feel like
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Speaker 3: that's really wholesome and really kind.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I agree with that. You get to meet the
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Speaker 2: person that's made your product and you can yes see
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Speaker 2: the impact that you're making by buying something to take away.
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Speaker 2: It's great, It's fantastic. The last little thing here v
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Speaker 2: as well was to use the resource the Good on
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Speaker 2: You out.
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Speaker 3: Oh I haven't heard of it.
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Speaker 2: It's also a website. I think, Emma, what's hermione? Hermione?
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Speaker 3: Oh, she's a good Egg, so it must be good.
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Speaker 2: She is a good Egg in so many ways. They
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Speaker 2: have really good They kind of rank the different brands
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Speaker 2: and tell you how sustainable they are and ethical in
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Speaker 2: their practices. So that is a really good resource that
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Speaker 2: we will link in the show.
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Speaker 3: Not as well, Yeah, let's pop that in the show notes.
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Speaker 3: But as we're doing that, We're going to go to
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Speaker 3: a quick break and we will be right back with
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Speaker 3: more chrissy tips for you.
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Speaker 2: Stay right there, okay, v straight back into it. Our
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Speaker 2: next tip is to consider gifting more creatively.
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Speaker 3: I hate when people say this g when they're like, oh,
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Speaker 3: be more creative, I'm like, I can't be. I'm not
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Speaker 3: very creative. Literally you are. Look, oh make you Christmas crack.
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Speaker 3: But that's because it can look quote rustic, and that
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Speaker 3: that makes it wholesome. But I really get frustrated with this,
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Speaker 3: But I guess that's a good little plugg for our
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Speaker 3: very own budget and cash flow masterclass. You can always
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Speaker 3: gift something like a course or an experience, and that
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Speaker 3: gives people an experience or something to do with having
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Speaker 3: very minimal impact on the environment, which I really really like.
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Speaker 3: You can also buy things that will stand the test
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Speaker 3: of time Georgia like plants. Well, I guess that depends
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Speaker 3: on how good you are keeping them alive and whether
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Speaker 3: you have a green thumb or not. But plants are
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Speaker 3: usually a really cute gift, especially if you've propagated them
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Speaker 3: yourself and you're gifting something to your friend that was
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Speaker 3: once a part of yours. I don't know. I really
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Speaker 3: like that again, with your partner, you could completely ditch
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Speaker 3: traditional gifting and opt for like date gift vouchers or
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Speaker 3: something I saw in Kiki Ka the other day a
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Speaker 3: Christmas card that had like little tear off vouchers so
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Speaker 3: you could fill in little gifts. And I just thought
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Speaker 3: that was so cute and a really sustainable way of
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Speaker 3: gifting something thoughtful to your partner that they are going
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Speaker 3: to adore.
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Speaker 2: I love that. It's very very cutesy and romantic.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you don't even have to be creative. You
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Speaker 3: just have to go buy the fancy card from Kiki K,
17:18
Speaker 3: which will probably cost you five dollars, but it'll be
17:20
Speaker 3: a good money win long term because the present technically
17:23
Speaker 3: cost you five dollars. It's cute, you get to customize yourself,
17:26
Speaker 3: and it came with the envelope not sponsored by Kiki K.
17:29
Speaker 3: But I would not say no Georgia genius.
17:34
Speaker 2: Okay. Our last t PV is to shop second hand,
17:38
Speaker 2: which everyone probably expected would pop up on this list.
17:42
Speaker 2: But ve tell us why this is such a good idea.
17:45
Speaker 3: I love this the idea that I would be given
17:47
Speaker 3: something that has already had a life is really really special.
17:51
Speaker 3: I know that that sounds really lame. I'm not saying, hey, George,
17:54
Speaker 3: just going to the oup shop and pick up something
17:55
Speaker 3: random and gift it to your friends, like I think
17:57
Speaker 3: thinking about it, maybe finding something online. You might be
18:00
Speaker 3: able to check eBay or gum Tree if there's something
18:03
Speaker 3: particular that you're really looking for for a friend. I
18:06
Speaker 3: mentioned this on the pod last week, but Steve's side
18:09
Speaker 3: of the family we do secondhand, handmade or homemade, and
18:12
Speaker 3: that is actually really fun. Yes, it takes a little
18:15
Speaker 3: bit more organizing and planning, but if you get ahead
18:19
Speaker 3: of the game, it is so fun and you feel
18:21
Speaker 3: like you're really giving back. But also you can get
18:24
Speaker 3: some really really good presence that you arguably couldn't have
18:27
Speaker 3: afforded for your friend or your family member had you
18:29
Speaker 3: bought it full price, So it's a money win. The
18:32
Speaker 3: beauty of secondhand things is that we aren't supporting the
18:35
Speaker 3: manufacturing process, which is obviously damaging for the planet. So
18:38
Speaker 3: this is a very good win. You're it cheese on
18:40
Speaker 3: the money. We do know that consumption culture not only
18:43
Speaker 3: contributes greatly to carbon emissions, but it also uses an
18:46
Speaker 3: incredible amount of water and we spoke about this on
18:49
Speaker 3: our fast Fashion episode we did yolks ago g king.
18:53
Speaker 3: But remember it takes twenty seven hundred liters of water
18:57
Speaker 3: to create a plain white T shirt.
18:59
Speaker 2: That baffles me, Like what.
19:01
Speaker 3: Plus there's whole issues around this around worker rights and
19:05
Speaker 3: animal exploitation and all of that, but I won't get
19:07
Speaker 3: into that because I will actually start ranting. So shoving
19:11
Speaker 3: this way really close this loop and slows down consumption.
19:14
Speaker 3: You have to be really mindful and really intentional when
19:16
Speaker 3: you shop, because obviously it is a little bit harder,
19:19
Speaker 3: and you do have to think quite hard about well,
19:21
Speaker 3: what am I going to get? What am I looking for?
19:23
Speaker 3: Because if you just walk into an op shop, you're
19:25
Speaker 3: going to be overwhelmed, I would say, But you're giving
19:28
Speaker 3: an item a second life and preventing it from being
19:31
Speaker 3: tossed into landfill. And I think that's really special.
19:33
Speaker 2: Definitely, And if anyone listening is like, oh gross up shops,
19:38
Speaker 2: like firstly wrong.
19:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, actually you're wrong, incorrect? Yeah, just I like that.
19:44
Speaker 3: That's probably the only time on the podcast we can
19:47
Speaker 3: like aggressively be like no, you're wrong.
19:49
Speaker 2: Wrong, bad, naughty? Yeah if you are, if you're not convinced,
19:53
Speaker 2: I would say, like, think kind of creatively. I know,
19:56
Speaker 2: for me, it wasn't from an up shop. It was
19:59
Speaker 2: from an old camera store. And I bought an old
20:02
Speaker 2: film camera for harps and it was like one hundred dollars.
20:05
Speaker 2: It was so old, it was amazing, so cool, and
20:08
Speaker 2: now we have a lot of these amazing film photos
20:11
Speaker 2: on our wall. It's great.
20:12
Speaker 3: Hey, that's a really good suggestion.
20:14
Speaker 2: It's a good idea.
20:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good idea.
20:17
Speaker 2: That's a fun one.
20:18
Speaker 3: The other thing I really like is like fancy wine glasses. Yes, yeah,
20:22
Speaker 3: going and getting like, you know, two beautiful champagne flutes,
20:26
Speaker 3: or you know, like the crystal like you know, like
20:28
Speaker 3: the crystal cocktail glasses, like those are so pretty and
20:33
Speaker 3: crystal is so expensive, but at the opshop it's like
20:36
Speaker 3: dirt cheap.
20:36
Speaker 2: Like two dollars.
20:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, it's crazy. The other thing I really like,
20:41
Speaker 3: as well, now we're going on a tangent, is if
20:43
Speaker 3: I'm going into an op shop, I'll often check out
20:46
Speaker 3: like the crockery and see things like little pieces of
20:49
Speaker 3: crockery I really like because they become things like ring
20:53
Speaker 3: dishes and stuff that you can gift to a girlfriend
20:55
Speaker 3: and be like, oh my gosh, I saw this. It's secondhand,
20:59
Speaker 3: but I thought of you. It was really pretty or
21:01
Speaker 3: really beautiful or really practical. You don't have to be like,
21:03
Speaker 3: oh gee, I just popped to my local op shop
21:06
Speaker 3: to see if I could find you something you can
21:07
Speaker 3: be like, Look, I went looking for something. I really
21:10
Speaker 3: wanted to buy your ring dish because I know you
21:12
Speaker 3: know you always take your jewelry off, all your earrings
21:14
Speaker 3: off before bed, and I just feel like this was
21:17
Speaker 3: really you and yet secondhand, but I just knew that
21:19
Speaker 3: this one would suit you. Like, that's really cute, right, yeah,
21:22
Speaker 3: ring dishes for the win, really cute little presents that
21:25
Speaker 3: are arguably very cost effective and we're saving the en moment.
21:29
Speaker 2: Well, that's ITV And as well as op shops, we
21:31
Speaker 2: didn't say that, you can also shop on eBay, gum
21:34
Speaker 2: Tree and Marketplace. They're all really good ways of closing
21:37
Speaker 2: that kind of fast fashioning loop that we talk about.
21:41
Speaker 2: So to recap our tips for today, we had shop secondhand,
21:45
Speaker 2: consider more creative gifts like experiences instead of tangible products.
21:50
Speaker 2: We had shop locally and choose those brands that are
21:53
Speaker 2: doing really good work in this space, ditch wrapping paper
21:57
Speaker 2: that was a big one, and make out.
21:59
Speaker 3: We can buy sky or ge. How many of us
22:03
Speaker 3: are short on tea towels?
22:04
Speaker 2: I actually am short on teatowels? Are you not?
22:07
Speaker 1: I am?
22:08
Speaker 3: If I wrapped your present in a nice little tea
22:10
Speaker 3: towel and then you get to kick double double present
22:13
Speaker 3: brilliant from you cleaned and washed obviously yeah, like we're
22:16
Speaker 3: not talking, Just like, grab it off the oven and
22:19
Speaker 3: just wrap Gee's present up and it smells like food. Like, no,
22:23
Speaker 3: not that tea towel.
22:24
Speaker 2: You never know. It's good to clarify, but you could.
22:26
Speaker 3: Pick festive tea towels and wrap them up and put
22:29
Speaker 3: I'm all about it, to be honest. Every time someone
22:32
Speaker 3: has gifted me something that has alternative wrapping, I'm always like.
22:35
Speaker 2: Yes, I love this, yeap, love it. Love it. The
22:38
Speaker 2: final two tips there were making your own gifts and
22:41
Speaker 2: buying less which we love for you before we do
22:43
Speaker 2: leave it for today. How would you recommend someone broach
22:48
Speaker 2: this topic with their family or their partner if they
22:51
Speaker 2: are wanting to integrate sustainable gifting into their lives? How
22:55
Speaker 2: do you do it?
22:56
Speaker 3: I feel like there's two ways of answering this or
22:59
Speaker 3: two ways this cook go right, Like your family could
23:01
Speaker 3: completely embrace it, and mine did, And I know that
23:05
Speaker 3: because my mum's always been like a bargain hunter and
23:07
Speaker 3: always been someone who's like good at finding a good
23:10
Speaker 3: piece of furniture or a good piece of like clothing secondhand,
23:14
Speaker 3: So she would absolutely adore this. But I know it's
23:17
Speaker 3: not for everybody, So I guess you could tell them
23:19
Speaker 3: to listen to the podcast episode, or tell them you
23:22
Speaker 3: listen to a podcast in how would we do that,
23:25
Speaker 3: or even just introducing the fact that you're going to
23:27
Speaker 3: try to do something one time. It doesn't mean that
23:30
Speaker 3: absolutely everybody has to get on board. I think there's
23:33
Speaker 3: a lot of beauty in you guys leading the way
23:35
Speaker 3: and going you know what, I don't mind if the
23:37
Speaker 3: rest of the family isn't going to do this, but
23:39
Speaker 3: I'm going to put the time, energy and effort into this,
23:40
Speaker 3: and I'm going to see how I can make this work,
23:43
Speaker 3: because it's not always about doing everything. It's just little steps,
23:47
Speaker 3: and little steps are still steps in the right direction.
23:49
Speaker 2: Right Gee. Finally, I just wanted to say as well
23:53
Speaker 2: that obviously today's show was all about sustainable gifting, but
23:57
Speaker 2: food waste is a massive issue this time of year.
24:00
Speaker 2: So if you are entertaining, really just like trying not
24:04
Speaker 2: to go overboard with what you're providing, Like, don't have
24:07
Speaker 2: enough food for twenty when there's only five of you there.
24:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, just do more planning. Often we end up with
24:13
Speaker 3: a lot of food waste. One because we get really
24:14
Speaker 3: excited because there's all these really exciting Christmas snacks and like,
24:18
Speaker 3: who doesn't want cherries at Christmas? So we're obviously getting those.
24:21
Speaker 3: And then in our family, my mum adores prawns at Christmas,
24:24
Speaker 3: so we always get that, but we need to make
24:26
Speaker 3: sure that we're working out at what time we're eating those.
24:28
Speaker 3: Otherwise they go in the fridge, they go off, and
24:31
Speaker 3: then they end up in the bin and that is
24:33
Speaker 3: not productive, especially at a time when so many people
24:36
Speaker 3: don't have heaps to put on their Christmas tables themselves.
24:39
Speaker 3: So plan a little bit better when it comes to Christmas.
24:42
Speaker 3: So as you said, gee, you're only hosting five, you
24:45
Speaker 3: don't need to cater for twenty. But also maybe have
24:48
Speaker 3: a little bit of think about how you could donate
24:50
Speaker 3: some food this Christmas or give back to people who
24:53
Speaker 3: really need it because I promise you there are lots
24:56
Speaker 3: of food drives going on and I think that we
24:58
Speaker 3: could have a real impact this Christmas. But that is
25:00
Speaker 3: more than enough preaching from me. I think it's probably
25:03
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