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What It Takes to Be a Global Content Creator: From Australia to England with Koby Falks · The Kink Consultant

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It's the King Consultant podcast where we're turning up the heat
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on all things kink and dating, relationships and pop culture.
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So close the door, plug in your headphones, and let's get down
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to it. Before we begin today's episode,
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I want to pause and share something important.
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My guest for this conversation, Kobe Fox, passed away after we
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recorded together. After talking with my team and
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with his, we felt that releasing the episode is what Kobe would
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have wanted. He was too humble for his own
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good, but anyone who knew him or spoke to him could see the
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fullness with which he lived his life.
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This episode is a chance to hear Kobe's voice, his story, and his
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spirit one more time. We share it with love and
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gratitude in memory of him. Hey everybody, and welcome to
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this week's episode of The King Consultant.
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I am joined by Kobe Fox and Kobe is a content creator on Only
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Fans on Instagram. Welcome, Kobe.
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Thank you for having me. I'm not just an only fans
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creator, I'm an adult performer so I I sort of am across
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multiple platforms. I have started doing live
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performances which has been a lot of fun.
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So after just being in my bedroom I'm now doing sex shows
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in front of people. So it has gone the full arc.
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What does that entail? What, There's a sex show in
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front of people? And this is in Australia, right?
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Correct. Yeah, it is in Australia.
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I don't know if you know, but we have states similar in the US.
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Some states are more liberal than others.
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I live in Melbourne. Here we can have sex on premise
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at licensed venues. In other states you can't.
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A lot of the the gay parties here are very sex positive with
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that. And part of that is live sex
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shows and I headlined quite a few of them.
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So that is performing live sex with someone else on stage for
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an audience. So everyone stops, music goes
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down, we come out, do a 1015 minute sex show and everyone
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kind of gets to enjoy it. So all right.
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The entire podcast has just become about this right now.
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I did not realize that. That is awesome.
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First question off the bat is do you get performance anxiety?
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I mean, I still get nervous. It's hard.
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I mean, I'm actually naturally a bottom for me, my brand has
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become more of a top, but I do have enhancements to help me
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perform especially live on stage.
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So and it is only 1015 minutes, but it was something that when I
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first did it was, you know, quiet.
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I'm sort of glad that I have doing it at the end of my career
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only fans because I've gotten used to being able to have sex
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in front of the camera with my partner when we started, then
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cameramen and then other people, and now I'm doing live shows.
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It's kind of been a little bit of a slow transition.
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If I if I was going straight into just doing live sex shows
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without that sort of background, I think it would be a lot more
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intimidating. OK, yeah.
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What came before Only Fans? What was like the mini step
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before that? Nothing really.
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I was just very conservative, very vanilla to be honest.
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I it was, you know, just a boy next door.
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You're still well, you're a daddy next door.
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From I'm a daddy next door, yeah.
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So when you say top and bottom, a lot of my listeners think kink
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bottom and top, but you're thinking gay bottom and top.
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Is it common for bottoms to play the top role for sex works,
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content creation, things like that?
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Yeah. I mean, look, for me it really,
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I sort of defaulted to a bottom I guess, because I wouldn't say
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that I have D in terms of erectile dysfunction, but it was
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just that you know, like so me topping it would only be like a
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couple of minutes or whatever or I never really like would
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sustain for hours kind of thing. And so it was a lot easier for
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me to default to a bottom. And obviously for guys, there's
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a lot of pleasure in bottoming through your prostate.
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So and it doesn't necessarily mean you're gay either.
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It's a physiological thing, whether you enjoy it or not.
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Absolutely, and I don't want to skip over that point.
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It is not a gay thing. I can guarantee a lot of
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treatment in enjoy having their prostate melt.
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The reason pegging is so popular?
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100% and I know plenty of other straight guys that do like us
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play as well. So yeah, absolutely.
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So like I use Tribix, which is sort of very common in the gay
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scene now and amongst performers, which is like a
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basically an injectable for your penis that gives you an
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erection. So it's kind of the next level
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after Viagra. So it's pretty much a guaranteed
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erection for a couple of hours. And since I found that a few
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years ago, I have become a lot more versed because I've been
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able to saying as a top essentially.
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And it's become a lot more enjoyable because it takes away
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the psychological element of, you know, I'm going soft, Like
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what's wrong with me kind of thing.
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Well, I'm not quite turned on right now.
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Like, I'm a bit tired, you know, like.
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That's a lot different for a man because everyone can see.
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As a woman, I'm like dry as the Sahara Desert, but no one except
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the person I'm with knows that. It could even be our little
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secret. But for men, it's a lot harder,
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especially on show. I mean, as a bottom, you know,
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there are times where I'm like, OK, it's been like 20 minutes
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kind of thing, and I'm just laying here.
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My back's kind of sore. But but I mean my back gets sore
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now topping too because I'm just at that age.
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My back gets sore pegging people, so I get it.
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Tops have a tough job with that. Yeah, For me it's like a special
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occasion thing and it's a cardio workout.
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So very impressive that you do it as part of a show.
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How did you get scouted for that?
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It really was just about my brand or my profile being I'm
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not a stranger to the party scene here in Melbourne either.
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And a lot of the people who are a lot of the party promoters or
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a lot of the Go Go's who are in the party circuit here are only
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fans creators as well. So we've sort of built up a
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network here that helps us to connect with basically to be
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able to shoot scenes. As an aside of that, the party
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promoters are also in that network because it gives them
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access to people who are willing to perform, whether that is
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sexualized or not, just as sort of, you know, normal Gogo or
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they'll offer more like what I'm doing, which is live sex shows.
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So they're, and then it's kind of a payoff because then the
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only fans creators such as myself are also getting out
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there in front of a live audience.
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And it sort of just helps a little bit with the brand.
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So it's been really beneficial. Yeah, I could totally see it
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being good marketing because like people actually get to see
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you and then I assume you take orders for customs.
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Yeah. I mean, I don't do a lot of
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custom custom videos. I definitely do sell custom
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underwear for for some people, but yeah, it's, I mean, I do a
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lot of collabs. So I think in the gay space,
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customs are not as big as what it is with the straight space.
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I think the biggest thing I noticed between the straight,
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the mainly women and the only fans and and guys is that like
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the guys who are interacting with women are looking a lot
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more for a kind of girlfriend experience or that kind of
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online relationship that's a bit more personalized.
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Yeah, I think gay guys just consume, consume, consume,
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consume. They just want hot content.
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They don't necessarily want to do the a lot of engagement.
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So the problem is, is that sex is really accessible in the gay
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community. So your customers who are
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subscribing have a very different psychology of what
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they expect when they're paying compared to a straight guy who's
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logging on to only fans. Like a straight guy who's
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logging on to only fans will set a budget of maybe 100 or $200 to
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drop in a session with PPB chatting and getting personal
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videos and stuff. A gay guy going on to only fans
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wants to pay the monthly subscription and get access to
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everything on your wall. And it's simply because as a
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straight guy, sex is very much controlled by society.
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Whereas as a gay guy and just naturally through our community,
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sex is very prominent in the clubs.
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Like I was just talking about, you know, there's not many
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straight clubs you can go to and see a live sex show and have sex
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at the club in a specific room called a dark room.
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You can at every gay club here. So all of a sudden, you know,
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the, the access to sex is a lot lower in the gay market.
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So it's like, well, why should I pay 200 bucks tonight when I can
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just go somewhere else and get it for free?
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So I would say it's definitely still lucrative, but it's never
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gonna be as lucrative just simply to that sort of marketing
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psychology. Yeah, tough market.
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How much does a ticket to the sex show cost?
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Well, you know, if you come with me, it's free pretty much.
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Plus what? I make it to Australia.
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But generally, like, you know, normal entry door price, $2530
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or something. Are you serious?
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Too bad. That's so affordable.
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I go to like kink parties here and it's about the same.
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It's probably like $20.00. I do see sex.
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It's not a show and it's not guaranteed that sex is gonna
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happen. But you know, and they're all
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just house parties because in Vegas, where I live, BDSM is
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illegal. Like impact plan, stuff like
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that. So you can't own a dungeon here.
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So we have to go to health parties as opposed Interesting
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being able to. So you are talking about
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different states having different laws.
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We're the same. Here I mean it makes sense.
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Sort of the same. So how long have you been doing
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Only Fans for? This has been my fifth year that
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kind of. Makes you a veteran of only
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fans. Yeah, I don't feel like I am,
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but I kind of am now because when we started it, there are
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obviously quite a few people that were already established
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and it was just around the time of COVID and Onlyfans was kind
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of hitting the pop culture mainstream, but it hasn't quite
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taken off yet. We decided, my business partner
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Sam Brandel and I, who's my ex partner now, we decided to just
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jump on early to as a side muscle to make some extra money
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because we had time in COVID. I could probably have named all
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of the other gay creators who were willing to collab with us
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on one hand at that time. And now there's, you know,
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hundreds of people that I could reach out to here.
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And I've just seen it explode from over the last five years
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from, you know, being a select group of people to suddenly now,
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like, if you don't have an only fans, what are you doing?
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So money on the table, Do you think it's because it just
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became more societally acceptable to have an only fans,
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whereas in the beginning it was sort of still like, oh porn,
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you'll be on camera forever? I think it was just too like.
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It just made it so accessible for not just to consume like
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influences essentially that you were following and they had an
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only fans, you know, so it piqued your curiosity.
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But the flip side is it's just so easy to like, hey, I could
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put a nude up and get paid. You know, you don't have to be
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earning $1000 a week, but even just earning $10 a week is a
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coffee, you know, for some people.
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So all of a sudden, you know, people are jumping on this
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social media platform. To me it just looks like
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Facebook, you know, it's got the same layout, so it's super easy
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and all of a sudden you you're controlling your content and you
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can put a price on it. So it just kind of blew up,
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really. Which is impressive.
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I mean I think I know way more creators now because it used to
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be 5 years ago it would be people whispering like oh our
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neighbors and only fans creator and now it's something that's
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openly talked about among people.
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I think too, because you know, like only fans, it's not
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pornography, it's only fans. People don't say, oh, they do
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porn, They do only fans. Like it's sort of it is porn,
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but the name has changed it so that you can like talk about it
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in public and it's not really shaming.
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Yeah, it's become its own thing. Not gonna lie, you absolutely
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piqued my curiosity to a distracting level when you
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mentioned your business partner and ex partner.
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Who is this still your content creation partner?
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How is that working? Yeah.
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I mean, we still work together. We were together for six years.
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So wow, it's only just been recent.
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I mean, we both have new partners.
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When we started, we started as a couple, Kobe and Sam, and that's
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what our brand was built. And quite early on we did
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collaborations. We were one of the first Aussies
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to actually go overseas and collaborate with.
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Our first trip was to the UK and that was simply because there
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just wasn't the level of creators in Australia.
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Whereas in the UK there were some high profile people that we
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went over there to shoot with. And because we did that very
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early on, and I think within the first year that we started Only
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Fans, all of a sudden we got pushed out on to these big
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accounts and became known as the kind of the Australian.
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Couple. Eyes.
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Yeah, Kobe and Sam, you know, that brand is quite strong, so
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it doesn't make sense to split it up because people know us as
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Kobe and Sam. We could walk into a bar in
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Barcelona and people will turn their heads and recognize us
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now. So, you know, it's pretty crazy.
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That's really cool because five years ago, like, could you have
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imagined that being a reality? No, no, not at all.
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It wasn't like I set a business plan five years ago to be where
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I am. We just did as the side hustle
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and I built on, but yeah, it just seems to keep building.
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That's awesome. Are you and Sam still creating
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content together? We are, yes.
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We still have a heap in the pipeline that we haven't
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released. He's taken a slightly bit of a
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backseat, whereas I've sort of, I'm just planning my next return
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to the UK trip. So it would be exactly 4 years
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since I was in the UK first. This.
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That's awesome. And this is gonna be like your
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first solo trip then. It is.
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It will be my first solo trip, which is actually a little bit
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hard to swallow because for us, like, I've been really
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fortunate, especially because international trips are very
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taxing. We could be shooting three or
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five scenes a day and having someone there.
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It's because, you know, I have to wake up at 5:00 AM to start.
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We call it douche, you know, to prep for bottoming for your
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scenes. Yeah.
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The King community is. Being on set at 12, pumping
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scenes out, being exhausted, but having someone there with you
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the whole time just makes it a little bit easier.
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But this time being completely solo will be, you know, like a
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little bit, yeah. It'll be a bit hard to swallow,
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but something I have to. Do I just went through a breakup
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with my ex fiance of 7 1/2 years and I know there's like a
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recalibration that has to happen of like, oh, here's the thing we
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used to do together now doing it separately.
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But I have to commend you for even being able to like stay
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business partners. That's not tough.
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We broke up amicably, so we became apparent that our journey
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had kind of ended. However, our business journey
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continues and we remain friends, which is great.
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That's awesome. Now rolling it back to the enema
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slash douching. 5:00 AM. You're getting up 7 hours before
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you start. So I actually have in the last
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few years just do a light douche, but actually deep douche
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Now. The difference being that a
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light douche is just cleaning out the first.
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I don't know the technical terms, but the rectum, Yep, a
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deep douche. A deep douche will actually
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surpass that into the colon and go all the way through the
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intestine. The problem with that is, well
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there's positives and negatives. The positives is if you do a
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deep douche, you'll clean for a day basically.
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So like I could deep douche, I can go to a party, I'll be clean
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after the party, go home, I'll still be clean because you know,
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any food that's come down has to go through that whole extract
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before it gets there. The negative is that it does
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take longer to actually do the douche than a light douche.
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So generally for me, about 3 hours because you're putting
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water up there in sort of the first hour, you have to wait a
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couple of hours for that water to come out of your system.
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It doesn't just come out all at once.
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It will slowly drip down over a few hours.
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So you've kind of gotta like set a bit of a time.
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It's something you can't do 20 minutes before they rock out.
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You've really gotta be like, hey, I'm planning this, let's
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let's get to it. But like I said, the benefits
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are once you get that down pat, you can have a lot more fun.
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You can. Party Long.
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Long. Yeah.
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The best way to describe it is kind of like when you're light
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douching and you know how like sometimes you put too much water
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up there and it sort of passes the yeah, it like curves and
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then all of a sudden you're getting dirty water and it just
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won't stop because that water is coming from the others.
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So essentially what a deep douche does is like you continue
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pushing that water so it purposely goes past that point
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and rather than just stopping at the point, you keep going to
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fill it up. So you still use a very low
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pressure separate water, but you just rather than 10 seconds, I
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will hold it for like up to sometimes a minute to really
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fill that passage. And then it will take, you know,
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generally 5 to 10 minutes before things start to move.
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And all of a sudden everything will just move.
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Yeah, it can get a bit painful too, because sometimes, like,
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you've got to get the, the closure between the, the rectum
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and the intestine. You've got to kind of move to
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open it, to let the water flow. Sometimes it's easy, sometimes
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it's not. But yeah.
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It cramps, doesn't it? A little bit of cramping.
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Essentially, yeah. The water induces the cramping,
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which is actually your intestines moving everything
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through. Yeah, and it takes a full 7
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hours though before everything's fully out and you, you'll come.
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So I wouldn't say 7 hours, like 3 hours, but obviously if we're
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on set with people, we will kind of like the best thing about
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deep dishing actually is you can eat and stay clean.
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So we would deep douche, do our initial pass, go have breakfast
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soda and then come back and then finish off.
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And because you can eat. So it was a game changer because
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normally like before that, I would not eat like for half a
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day before we had a shoot day to make sure that like no food was
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passing through. And once we discovered deep
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douching, yeah, the fact that we could eat and still be clean was
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the game. Changer the day before.
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When were you not eating? Day of or day before?
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The day before we would usually stop eating around midday or day
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just to allow food to like fully pass and then light douche so
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that nothing was still coming down because the light douche
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only lasts like half an hour or something before yeah, we can
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move kind of thing. So.
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That makes sense. What's your schedule because I
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know you're quite busy. How often are you filming?
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How often are you posting? I post to socials everyday
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'cause you've just gotta feed the algorithm.
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Shooting wise, we kind of do content blocks.
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We'll try and shoot a bunch of content in a condensed time
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span, particularly if we're overseas or like I'm headed
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overseas in June, you know, I'll try and make get the most bang
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for my buck. But that allows me to then
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release a scene, you know, maybe once a week.
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And then I also do solo content too, which I also release once a
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week, which is a lot easier to film at home by myself.
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But for the collaborations, definitely we'll try and group
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them together and do that because when we first moved to
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Melbourne we were filming with a lot of creators and it was
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almost six months of filming with one creator every weekend
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and it just got too much because it took away life essentially.
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We were working during the week and then, you know, so I've
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learned to now try and group it together, maybe pump out one or
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two weeks of content and make that content then stretch out.
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So that you can actually take a day off and not have to think
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about work every single day of your life.
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Yeah, that makes total sense. I mean, I only create Instagram
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content like in addition to being a sex and relationship
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coach who takes clients and I find that extremely taxing just
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doing the social media and not even create right.
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What content pops off for you the most on like non only fan
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socials like Instagram? So for me, I've actually found
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that the the stuff that lands the best is is actually just
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looking straight at the camera POV, sort of answering fans
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questions. Having that personal access, I
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think is what people, you know, initially went to social media
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for. And and so the fact that they
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can kind of like I use not gonna lie, you know, NGL, for for
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followers to ask their questions and I'll just pick one and kind
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of do a video. And for some reason they always
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pop off. I don't know why.
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Maybe because, you know, everyone has the same burning
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questions and they want to know. But yeah, I think too, just
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because it, you know, gives a little bit of insight into your
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personality as well as opposed to just saying you get fucked on
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camera. You know, you can't really give
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too much away when you're just kind of bottoming or popping.
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I know people want that behind the scenes thing.
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They want your opinion. You already have a following in
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your own right, and then they get this extra.
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Piece so I can totally see that, but also curiosity, man, it gets
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everyone even like I get followers who aren't kinky, but
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they want to know what it's like.
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So like they'll check out the videos too.
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Very cool. So do you do anything special
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for these big trips as into prep, or are you kind of always
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in prep mode of like, I got to be at the gym, I got to be
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taking care of myself because this is what I do.
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I mean, I do, I do obviously try and ramp up my gym and stuff to
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look good because I know that in that wake of content I'm going
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to get X amount of videos, so I want to look my best.
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But in terms of like the trip itself, not really.
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It is quite far for me to travel.
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So it's kind of half vacation, half filming content.
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And then yeah, I guess just trying to line up other people
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is the hardest part because people's schedules don't always
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align obviously when I'm travelling.
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So there could be people who I've been wanting to work with
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for years that I've been chatting to and then I just
20:51
missed them because they have some other engagement on that
20:54
day and it can be really frustrating.
20:56
That, I imagine, is annoying or like, worse, they're possibly,
20:59
like, out of town that one weekend that you've, yeah, like,
21:01
organized to work. Well, for them as well, they're,
21:04
they're in London or they're, you know, like you know, they
21:06
get people coming through all the time.
21:08
No one really comes through Melbourne.
21:09
That's because it is far for everybody, right?
21:12
It's like Australia is it's one of those places I've always
21:15
wanted to go but somehow have never made it.
21:17
And I'm like, I work for myself. Now is the time to make it there
21:21
and it's still so far. It feels impossible to actually
21:24
get to. So I'm impressed you've made it.
21:27
You go yearly or every? Have you gone like once every
21:29
year? Pretty much like even twice a
21:31
year, like I've shot in the UK, I've shot in Spain, I've shot in
21:34
Mexico, I've shot in the United States, shot in Amsterdam,
21:37
Berlin, like Germany, I've shot in a lot of places.
21:41
And what's been great too, is that like I've shot in multiple
21:44
countries with the same creators.
21:46
One of my first people I worked with, PJ Knox, and we met in the
21:49
UK. He was then in Barcelona and we
21:52
shot together. We then caught up again in
21:54
Mexico and did a scene. And you know, it's so great to
21:58
run into these people all the time that you're working with
22:00
in, in different countries because it's, it's just like,
22:03
oh, hey, you know, like it's so nice to see you again.
22:05
And we're here in X and like, you know, it's, that community
22:11
is, is quite small. So it it just adds a bit of
22:13
familiarity and it's nice. Do you have a favorite city you
22:17
go to? Definitely Barcelona is a bit of
22:20
a hotspot for creators or for gay content, and we work with
22:23
the producer there, Macho Jim. Sam and I recently just got
22:27
nominated at the European Gravities for best top and best
22:30
Pornhub models for our work that we've done with him.
22:33
Wow. So that was really great.
22:35
Somewhere where I really wanna go is Sao Paulo in Brazil.
22:38
So that has starting to become a bit of a creator hotspot down.
22:41
I've never been to South America, so I would love to head
22:44
over there. So that's like next on your hit
22:46
list for a new destination. Maybe next year, yeah.
22:50
And congratulations on the nomination.
22:52
That's huge. Yeah, it was really unexpected
22:54
as well. So we had no idea.
22:57
And to be nominated with like all of those big creators and
23:00
you know, we still feel like we're in the small fish in a big
23:03
pond kind of thing, being so far away from everyone, you know, we
23:07
just, we don't have the constant access.
23:10
So it was really nice and really to get that recognition.
23:12
That's awesome. When you came to the States,
23:14
where did you go? Obviously, LA and you know we've
23:17
spent some time in Florida as well and we are looking at we've
23:22
got a relationship now with some creators and looking to go up to
23:25
the Midwest later in the year too to shoot content up there
23:29
and possibly cool. You really you do travel a lot.
23:32
Aussies do travel. I think because we are so far
23:35
when we do head overseas, we don't just go for a few days.
23:38
We always take like two or three weeks.
23:41
Like my Europe trip coming up is 4 weeks because we want to make
23:44
it worth it. The flight is 24 hours at least,
23:47
you know, and expensive. So we don't.
23:49
We don't. Want to just as an American, I'm
23:50
like, will your job be waiting for you when you get back after
23:54
four weeks of travel? But yeah, yeah, unheard.
23:57
Of here we do. I think the standard is four
23:59
weeks leave 20 days. All right, that's a lot of time.
24:03
I love that. I love that you're making the
24:05
most of it. Oh.
24:06
I have to, Yeah, definitely. And then you're able to fit in
24:08
vacation because it does sound like you're working a lot.
24:11
So like being able to mix it up and get the best of both worlds.
24:15
What are your personal kinks? So I never used to, but this is
24:18
something that has developed over time, isn't actually really
24:21
enjoyed what we call cum dumps. It's kind of like a gang bang,
24:25
essentially a group of guys just fucking me like a line, kind of
24:30
like a Bonnie Blue style have. A good training, sort of like,
24:34
yeah, one after the other, all coming inside you.
24:37
Yeah, anonymously as well. So I kind of like to be
24:40
blindfolded and just be put there and then have guys go
24:44
through me. And so that's a really big turn
24:47
on for me, I think mainly because it's kind of giving up
24:50
control. And I'm a very sort of
24:54
regimented and controlling person.
24:56
So it's kind of me being able to release and just give in to
25:01
whoever it is and the situation. But I've decided this trip to
25:06
try and maybe do a condom Same. So I'm trying to organize that
25:10
at the moment. Awesome.
25:11
OK, Yeah, that makes total sense too.
25:13
It's like letting the floodgates open and releasing all of that.
25:17
Like controlling energy, Yes. Is.
25:21
There going to be like a sharpie somewhere where they can sign
25:23
you on their way out or no? So generally I do wear, I wear a
25:29
jock strap and there is a marker and they do a little telly on
25:32
the jock strap, you know, like 4 and then across, four and
25:36
across. And so, yeah, you can count
25:38
count the number of loads. And then I sell the jockstrap.
25:41
Usually, you know someone wants to buy it.
25:44
Oh man, OK, so now what's your record number?
25:47
Question 1. And #2 what's the motion gotten
25:49
for a jockstrap? A used jockstrap like that.
25:53
It was it was 56 loads in Miami, but it wasn't filmed.
25:57
It was it was just something I did personally.
25:59
You're. Allowed, yes, to have a
26:02
personal. Moment you know a lot of people
26:04
are like that's impossible how did you organise that blah blah
26:07
blah blah blah and it really wasn't hard I you know I was in
26:10
Miami I have sniffies that and a gay app that just you know you
26:15
can connect with people I'm recognisable so lots of people
26:18
messaged me and there are lots of hot guys in Miami they were
26:21
all asking for one on ones and I was like I'm never going to get
26:24
through all these guys I'll just make a group and started biting
26:27
them into the group and it just grew it just went like from like
26:30
you know 5 to suddenly like 40 something guys and I just set a
26:34
time in the group thing and waited and they all showed up
26:38
so. Wow.
26:39
Well, of course they did. They you never know.
26:42
How long did it last it? Was three hours.
26:45
So, but I did it for 6:00 and 9:00.
26:47
And I remember like at 6:00 I like put on my blindfold, got on
26:51
the end of the bed and the doors sort of unlocked at the hotel.
26:53
And I sort of waited and I, I waited for like 15 or 20
26:57
minutes. I thought, oh God, no one's
26:59
gonna come. And then I heard the door.
27:01
So the door opened and you know, there's one guy and then all of
27:03
us a sudden like you keep hearing the door.
27:05
I actually, I think that's what I get off on, is hearing the
27:08
door open most of all. So for some.
27:11
Reason I don't know. Why?
27:12
I there's like the IT builds the anticipation, you know it's
27:16
coming. And you don't, you know, but you
27:18
can't see. And you know, they're about to
27:20
touch you, but you, you don't know when.
27:22
And then you feel something rushing on you.
27:24
And it's, yeah, I do remember at the halfway point, you know,
27:27
like, I sort of felt like I was getting shared by like two or
27:30
three guys. I, I had to like just take a
27:33
break to compose myself a little bit and just get some fluids
27:36
because, and after an hour and a half just sweating or whatever.
27:40
So OK, I'm just going to, you know, I'll be back in a second.
27:42
So I stood up. I took the blindfold off
27:44
expecting just to see, you know, two or three.
27:47
But there was like a lot of about 10 or 12 guys down the
27:51
hallway all naked with hard arms waiting for their turn and all
27:54
smiling at me. And so I had to walk past this
27:56
line, went and just tied it up, came back and I was like, oh,
27:59
here we go. All right, So that was.
28:02
Moment that's that's so amazing a line of people who have shown
28:06
up to fuck you yeah very hot but like what an efficient crew by
28:12
the way to get through that many people in three hours I'm
28:15
impressed like. Yeah, well, that average.
28:17
Time. I'm not sure I'm.
28:20
Like pulling out a calculator in like 180 minutes divided by 56
28:24
people. 3 minutes. Just over 3 minutes.
28:27
Each. That's not bad.
28:28
That's pretty generous. I think a funny clue.
28:30
They only got like one, one thing and it was like next kind
28:33
of thing, like, yeah, because she was going for a record kept.
28:36
The Line movie, were you alone or did you have a facilitator
28:38
there, like someone to lookout and make sure it was OK?
28:42
I was, I was, I was alone. Yeah.
28:44
I think I haven't had any issues like that.
28:47
I think, you know, generally gay guys are pretty respectful and a
28:50
lot of them, too, are usually discreet or married as well.
28:54
So they're not really looking to cause trouble.
28:56
And I'm obviously not a small guy either.
28:59
So, you know, should something arise, you know, it's not
29:02
exactly gonna be easy overpower me.
29:05
And generally, I think with other people there as well,
29:08
probably the hardest thing would be people filming, maybe.
29:11
So those private ones, I always ask no filming, because you know
29:14
when I respect the privacy of whoever's showing up.
29:16
Everyone in the room. Not so much to myself, I'm not
29:19
worried about, but obviously people are coming expecting
29:22
privacy. But obviously for this one in
29:24
London, that's gonna be films. So making sure that everyone is
29:27
verified on platform before they arrive will be something, you
29:31
know, that I'll do. Preview event.
29:32
So just because people need to be very, you're probably gonna,
29:34
it's gonna be fewer people for that reason alone.
29:37
Right, actually, yeah, but we'll see early days.
29:40
It's funny. It's like, yeah, you're right.
29:42
I don't know, maybe like maybe there's 100 people who are ready
29:44
to show up and verify I. Don't know who.
29:47
Knows do you mind that there are a lot of married men who do this
29:53
just for the release of it of like they wouldn't identify as
29:56
gay at all, but like they want to enjoy the sex side of it.
30:00
Oh, definitely. I mean, I think too, you know,
30:02
like sexuality is very I don't really believe anyone is fully
30:05
straight or fully gay. I don't see myself as fully gay.
30:08
I always think that there is always the potential that I may
30:12
meet someone that I, you know, would would go to for a sexual
30:16
encounter, especially as I've as I've gone through, you know,
30:19
only fans and stuff can become more, I guess, you know, like
30:22
open to kinks and more assured about my sexual identity, you
30:26
know, like that exploration. But definitely, you know, like,
30:28
I mean, in my personal time, I hook up with a lot of straight
30:31
men who just, you know, just come over for a blowjob or want
30:34
to fuck me or, you know, like I'm an escort as well.
30:36
So they do, they do book me. And it's simply because, you
30:40
know, I guess one of the main things is they feel like they're
30:43
not cheating because I'm not a woman.
30:45
For them, it's very transactional.
30:47
There's no confusion there about a potential relationship
30:50
crossover because I'm a man and it's never, they're not gay
30:54
specifically, they're never gonna get romantically involved.
30:57
So it's a lot easier to draw that line that it is just sex.
31:01
I think men to the biggest difference is that men are very
31:05
impulsive when it comes to sex. We get horny and we act on it
31:08
straight away. And women hold the power in sex
31:11
because I think women are a lot more attuned to sex.
31:14
So they're a lot more aware of their needs.
31:17
And so they're able to control their sexual urges a lot more,
31:20
which means because they can control it, you know, they can,
31:22
you know, and men are kind of like uncontrollable.
31:25
We just acted in the moment. That's the paradigm.
31:28
So I actually think women are much more, no, I think women are
31:31
much more in tune. I think women are much more in
31:33
tune with their sexual sexuality that met by that.
31:36
I mean, is that like because women can, because women are so
31:40
ensuring with their sexuality, they they can control it and
31:43
they can know that it can be used to control men essentially
31:47
who can't control it. We get the urge and we just get
31:49
horny and we're like, we wanna fuck something now, you know,
31:52
and we don't think until after we do it, you know, so.
31:56
I think that's true to accept, but men can control themselves,
31:59
otherwise they'd be out raping. Oh, of course, but you know,
32:02
generally, but even still a little be like, you know, Oh my
32:05
God, I've gotta I have to go jerk off in the in the in the
32:08
cubicle or something. That's true, yeah.
32:10
It's like things like I need to get that post nut clarity
32:14
otherwise I'm just not gonna get any work done today.
32:16
Whereas I feel like women are a bit more sexually like able to
32:19
control themselves. So I wouldn't say
32:23
compartmentalize. So that is an area where.
32:25
The. Women are strong in
32:27
compartmentalizing of like, oh, I would like to do that.
32:29
Let me put that on the back burner and I'll like make a
32:31
mental. Note to do that later where.
32:33
It's not AI need to do it now in saying that, yeah, I have had
32:37
moments where I have had to be to do it like right now.
32:40
Always exceptions, but as a cause.
32:42
Exceptions. But it's not.
32:44
Yeah, it's not the rule for me. See, it's not fucking the
32:47
things, but just. Yeah, a lot of the straight guys
32:49
will be like, hey, I'm just super horny.
32:50
I just need to blow now. I'm driving down this street.
32:53
I'm not on my way to a meeting. Are you free?
32:54
And it's like, yeah, swing by, you know, and it'll be like
32:58
Bang, Bang, bum out and they're gone, you know, so.
33:01
Which is kind of crazy to me because as an adult, trying to
33:04
organize anything at all is difficult.
33:07
So being able to organize this on the fly with all of these
33:09
apps and I guess ways to stay connected, it does make it
33:12
easier. But it's still crazy to me that
33:15
it's that accessible. I wish Kink was that accessible.
33:18
Genuinely. I wish I could say to someone
33:19
like I wish there was an app where I could just swing by for
33:22
a because that's my thing, my kinky thing.
33:24
I would avail of that if it was an option.
33:26
Yes, absolutely. Well, there could be a gap in
33:29
the market, who knows? Believe me, there is not enough
33:33
of a gap in the market. I would even if I wanted to pay
33:35
for such service, it doesn't exist.
33:37
That is how rare it is a gap I guess in the market of what you
33:40
provide. So what do you have plans to
33:43
expand the business like I mean, obviously you have your fingers
33:46
in a lot of different pies here. I feel over the course of this
33:49
conversation you like a couple of things have come up like, oh,
33:52
I also do this, I do that. I'm also doing this.
33:54
Yeah, look, I'm just really, I don't really have a plan.
33:58
I'm just keep going with the flow.
34:00
You know, as opportunities come, I sort of just take them as
34:04
opposed to being like, this is where I want to be in New Year's
34:07
time or whatever. I'm sort of just enjoying it
34:09
because I do work full time as well.
34:11
And I know that this side hustle is not kind of a forever,
34:15
forever thing. So I'm just building on it, you
34:17
know, And if something pops up, I'll be like, yeah, but I'm not
34:20
actively pursuing too much. And I think that's the best way
34:23
to kind of go about it because this is a very up and down
34:28
industry. You know, trying to be your own
34:30
boss in any business is, you know, very tumultuous, let alone
34:35
in the sex working field or sex industry because one minute
34:39
you're hot, one minute you're not.
34:40
You know, it all depends on socials, anything like my
34:43
Instagram account just got shadow banned for a month or
34:46
something from a post I did. So, you know, all of a sudden
34:49
now my reach is like limited for a month, which, you know,
34:52
obviously effects revenue. So it's just it's so
34:54
unpredictable. And then I think sometimes if
34:57
you had these kind of big goals in such a industry that is in so
35:01
much turmoil all the time and big turnover, you can maybe set
35:04
yourself up for a bit of failure.
35:06
So it's best to not get too attached.
35:08
But definitely, you know, I have key people that I want to fuck,
35:12
so and I've took them off my list.
35:14
So I do have some goals. I love that the goal is like
35:19
good to fuck the people I want to fuck you like the age range
35:23
isn't going to be for like isn't I guess you just mentioned that
35:26
the high side hustle isn't going to be forever.
35:28
What's the age range of content creators you see still working?
35:32
Like you mentioned earlier, it's.
35:34
Pretty it's so broad and you know, I've worked with fresh
35:38
content creators like Melbourne Frank, who was 20 and then I've
35:41
worked with, you know, like gay daddies like Mr. Dickie James
35:45
are in their like mid 50s kind of thing.
35:47
You know, I myself now I'm moving into my 40s and you know,
35:51
I'm a, I'm a dad, I guess. I mean, I was nominated best
35:54
daddy for Pornhub awards, so I guess I could claim that I'm a
35:57
daddy. But you know, I think that's one
36:02
of the things that only fans has done as well, is that it's
36:06
allowed people to step outside the stereotypes of the studio
36:09
system. And, you know, people are
36:11
interested in all sorts of ages and ranges.
36:14
I mean, I'm so surprised about the amount of young guys now
36:17
that are interested in me because I'm a daddy, you know,
36:21
you wouldn't have looked at me in my mid 20s.
36:23
And so the age range is so broad.
36:26
It's really broad. That's a really cool thing,
36:29
though. It's not like it's not
36:30
constrained to one specific age and everyone is that age and
36:33
that's like, I guess mass amount of people.
36:36
OK, if you understand what I'm saying.
36:37
OK. Your new partner?
36:39
Do you film with them? No, we don't.
36:40
And I've, I've, I've specifically asked not to.
36:43
We, we've, we've made like some, Yeah, well, I think part of why
36:47
Sam and Sam and I sort of, you know, we, we've shot over 500
36:51
scenes together. As in professionally.
36:53
And so, you know, obviously that does have a bit of an impact on
36:56
your personal life because then, you know, the, the sexual
36:59
intimacy sort of started to taper off.
37:03
And it did start to feel like work because we would fall into
37:07
the routine of doing what we would do in a scene.
37:09
And we worked really well in a scene, but we're doing it from a
37:12
perspective of the camera. Someone we were alone, you know,
37:15
like it just, it didn't have, it sort of just started to help
37:19
that divide became a little bit more apparent.
37:22
So, yeah, my current partner, we, we, we don't work together.
37:25
So in fact, you'll be travelling with me in Europe, but won't be
37:28
there during the content part. We'll be somewhere else and then
37:31
I will catch up with with him afterwards.
37:34
So something to look forward to then, so.
37:36
Yeah, and I think too 'cause he obviously doesn't wanna like
37:40
just be sitting on the sidelines kind of thing, although it would
37:43
be really nice to have him there for me, like for aftercare or
37:46
whatever. I understand as well that, you
37:48
know, it's not the easiest thing to watch your partner like work
37:52
with all these people or feel like a condom scene, you know,
37:54
so. Yeah, so he's open.
37:57
It's just hard to be there to watch it and sit there just
38:00
twiddling your thumb, not getting.
38:01
Involved, yeah. That makes sense.
38:04
Well, Kobe, thank you so much for joining me today.
38:07
This was a really fun conversation.
38:10
It was great to get your perspective and just the stories
38:13
you brought were amazing. Oh, thank you so much.
38:16
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