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- Jo Fiddy: Hi, my loves. Today I'm joined by Charlotte Body a serial entrepreneur with more than 20 years experience building, scaling and selling businesses across healthcare, media and events. Charlotte is the founder of the Health Assembly, the group behind Pause Live, the UK's largest women's health event. She is passionate about improving access to trusted, evidence-based health education and driving better conversations around women's health. Pause Live returns to London on the 10th of October, and I'm personally incredibly excited to be part of it this year. Charlotte, I feel like this is Charlotte Body: Yeah. Jo Fiddy: menopausal royalty. Welcome to the pressing play pause. She's here. She's... Yeah. Let's Charlotte Body: of applause on a Friday. Let's do this. Jo Fiddy: bring the vibes. I am so thrilled you're here. I know you're busy. Pause Live is coming. Yeah. A month. Charlotte Body: I know it's a month. A month. Ten ten month. my gosh. Do you know what Jo Fiddy: GASP Charlotte Body: though? We we were just talking, weren't we off there? And I was saying, Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: I do seem pretty calm. I think it's the calm before the storm now. but yeah, we're so excited. We've got so much going on, haven't we? I don't know if one podcast is going to cover everything we've got. Jo Fiddy: No. Charlotte Body: But thank you for having me, Joe, and I'm really excited that you're part of this year's Pause Live. Jo Fiddy: thank you. And it's so fantastic because it's community, it's education, Charlotte Body: Mm. Jo Fiddy: it's healthcare, and there's so much to unpack. And I think let's go back to the beginning and what was happening in your own life when the idea for Pause Live first began. Charlotte Body: So as you may know it's Periumenopause Awareness Month in September and I always take myself back. I'm 52 and I was sort of very case book forty-six, forty forty-five, I had some symptoms, forty-six, I was hit with a sledgehammer and literally I was had every symptom you can possibly name within those within that time period. Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: The first ones were pretty horrific. Obviously being a businesswoman as well, I found it really difficult and challenging. A lot of those symptoms can be really debilitating, can't they? I mean like Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: brain fog, hot flushes and weight gain My hair was falling out, and I was in denial. Now I think this is really important actually that we address this situation at it being Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: perimenopause awareness month, that it usually takes probably four or five people to notice that the the difference in you and for them to highlight that it may well be perimenopause, and let's please look at the fact that. Just because I was text, but a lot of women are going into earlier perimenopause in the 30s. girls are starting their periods much younger. so you know, I think it's really important that we don't put an age on here, but we do look out for the signs to help signpost other people as well. So after four and five times of people telling me I think it might be perimenopause, me being in complete denial. What do you mean? I'm you know, I was living my best life, and then all of all of a sudden I'm not. went Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: to the doctors, I think it was five times. I say between four and five times, I can't actually remember. it was all a bit of a blur. my confidence went down. I didn't get the help that I needed there, I didn't get the answers. so I decided to set up menopause in practice, which is the sister event, which is for healthcare Jo Fiddy: Cool. Charlotte Body: professionals, working in the health sector myself. Myself, I felt that private aesthetic practitioners were in a really good place to signpost us women Jo Fiddy: Hmm. Charlotte Body: because if you look at the aesthetic market, it's not that old. And so a Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: lot of the practitioners are going through it themselves. And it was my practitioner that said to me, For God's sake, Charlotte, you know, go and get your blood stun, even if you have to pay for it, stop taking no for an answer. Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: And I I was shocked actually that I didn't know what was going on with my body and that I didn't really even know the word I didn't knew the word perimenopause, but I didn't really know n knew what it meant. And I thought, God, if that's me working in health What are other women going through? So Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: we set up Miniflosing Practice. It's i again, it's such a valuable event because what it does is it helps professionals, you know, even if they just want to signpost their patients to other, you know, to other professionals, it's a really good network. So that runs in February each year. And after that I said to my team, Do you know what? I think I want to do a consumer event and they all went, No Jo Fiddy: Hahahaha Charlotte Body: Run the heels. And I get that, because you know you worked in events. Right, run a consume event. But I said, look, let's do it. So it's not for profit, it's passionate, you know, that we're gonna really help other women with it. And Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: that's what we do. it is tough. It it was really tough to continue to do it because it ends up you know, it's already well it being not Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: for profit, but it ends up costing us, you know. So we we have to Jo Fiddy: I'm sure. Charlotte Body: keep continuing to do the good work. But anyone will tell you that's been to pause. when some people come up and say, I didn't know that there was all these solutions out there. We're all about the solutions, we're all about the support, we're all about the education and I think that makes my job worth Jo Fiddy: I love it. I love it. I could just imagine this because it can feel such a place where you feel lost and I think just the expectation of you have to just get on with it or that feeling of is it me or am Charlotte Body: Yeah. Yeah. Jo Fiddy: I alone? And you're just bringing this fantastic community together of not only women and men as well. And we'll talk about that who's coming in as but also is for everybody, isn't it? But Charlotte Body: No. Mm. Jo Fiddy: also you've got such a line up. If if you're brand new. and you're coming in, what can you expect? I mean, the line-up's incredible. I feel like you should tell us all about it. It's just, mean, wow. Charlotte Body: wow. Do you know what was we been a little bit over ambitious as always? I'm more Jo Fiddy: Hehehehe Charlotte Body: of a question of like, let yeah, let's just do this. So I was diagnosed with ADHD during my perimenopause. Okay. and I was so manic, it was shocking. And when I look back at how manic I was, even looking Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: at Jim Podcast back then, because you'll remember I was on the journey of the perimenopause as well. but it was good because every symptom I got I I I met A doctor or I debunked it myself or I, you know, I I learnt Jo Fiddy: fantastic. Charlotte Body: not what to buy. You know, we we we talk about all of the different things that we're going to be doing there, but I think the most important thing is you've got exhibitors, which are all hand-picked, we turn business away all the time. I've got a drawer, a thousand pound worth of stuff that I brought for my hair loss, which you Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: know, I might as well have not bothered. So I don't want other women having to go through that. I think Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: that's really important. you know there'll be something for everybody there from an exhibitor point of view. And we've got this fat fantastic new venue as well. Like wow. Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: So it is all brand new. It's just opposite St. Pause you can see St. Pause from the building. All on one floor. Jo Fiddy: which is, yeah. Charlotte Body: So you have the educational stage on one side, which is all the best doctors and professors in the country, talking about symptoms head to toe. And there'll be symptoms there that you didn't even know that you had until you actually sit down and listen to the symptoms. Then you've got the live stage, which is just so much fun. If you think sort of loose women but on another level, loose women on mushrooms, maybe. Little mushrooms, obviously, yeah, lions maybe. Jo Fiddy: Yeah, fantastic. Charlotte Body: and on there we've got the lovely Cherry Healy, Nina Rambrose from Rants in Pant Big Pants. And these women are women that are supporting Women, you know, they're not asked asked for thousands of pounds to be on that stage for the day. so I think what they bring to the party is humour. We're we're discussing on their relationships, because as we know, it's very difficult when you're going through perimenopause, not just for you but for those around you, and Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: navigating that. Our men's panel is always always literally. Last year we had Dr. Hillary Jones, which was amazing. So we've got lots of celebrities that come and give up their time for free. but when we're talking about sex, we're Sinitta talking about sex. the lovely Sinitta again, she's just such a wonderful woman. Jo Fiddy: Bye. Charlotte Body: you know, she's 60 and she's having the best sex of her life. She's fallen in love, Jo Fiddy: I love it. Charlotte Body: you know, and I think, wow, what a woman. So we've got these powerhouses of women, but we've also got real people that will Jo Fiddy: Thank Charlotte Body: be you know, hopefully. on the stage, and you can relate to them with your own journeys, and I think that's really important. So, workshops. my gosh. So, last year we decided we realized the huge gap in women's health. It's not a little gap, it's a huge gap. Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: And we wanted to bring in endometriosis as a workshop. We noticed younger women were coming along. we know that the rate of women that have got endometriosis has gone up. used to be one in ten, I think it's one in seven now. takes ten and a half years to get a diagnosis. We know that there are so many solutions out there. Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: And we have the best endogynecologist speaking in the workshop. So if you know anyone that's got gyne any gynee issues, we've got PMOS, you know, AKA PCOS Jo Fiddy: Yep. Charlotte Body: workshop which is always for menopause and cancer. Now again we hear time and time again from our community that, you know, they've had cancer treatment. And then the women go straight into menopause, especially if it's estrogen-based cancer. There are a lot of things that you can have and you can do, and we've got the best doctors there speaking about that. So unfortunately it's always full up that one, but that all the workshops are free of charge. and just generally I think dealing with from menstruation right through to postmenopause, and every woman's got a like a journey, every woman's got the story, and Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: every woman's probably had some sort of you know women's health issue within that. and we need to educate support within that journey. So we've got the wonderful WACA Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: which do the period parents and do so much for period poverty and they're gonna be doing Jo Fiddy: Brilliant. Charlotte Body: some stuff. So really anyone can bring their daughters, bring their you know nieces, bring everybody along because it's a lot of education with regards to what happens to our bodies. Now, women always put themselves last. It we have you know we Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Yeah. Charlotte Body: do. And I think this is the day that you put yourself first, you come along. and the experience hub. We've got so many different things that you can try. Yoga, Pilates, tapping, you know, there's lots of different things. We do have wonderful soundbath at the end of the day as well. It is going to be hard to pick some of the things that you want to do and you can meet an expert. So you can sit down, if you've got issues with you know, you want you're thinking about maybe going on HRT, which does makes a huge difference to a lot of women, including Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Yeah. Charlotte Body: myself, you can sit and talk to somebody about that. If you're thinking about maybe going on GLP ones, you're a bit concerned about the constituents. So there's we've got ten experts that are gonna be there all day. You can book online. I know twenty pound. And if you don't turn up for any reason, the twenty pound will go to charity, but we we just wanted an ownership on with that because, you Jo Fiddy: Incredible. Charlotte Body: know, they're giving up their time to speak to you guys, Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: and give you the best advice possible. It's not a consultation, it's more of a chat, more of an a you know, more of an advice and more of signposting, which is what we need, Joe, isn't it? More signposting. I've probably missed something Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Yeah. my goodness. Charlotte Body: out, but that sounded really exciting. I wish I was gonna go just to enjoy it for the day. Jo Fiddy: I mean it's everything in there and I think what I really love is how many people are waiting on waiting lists or Charlotte Body: Why not? Jo Fiddy: trying to get through to people and you can't get through to anybody and you've just brought this whole wonderful community of experts and workshops and everything they can do and it's in one day. You can go Charlotte Body: Yeah. Jo Fiddy: around in one day, a brand new beautiful venue, it's all on one level and Charlotte Body: Yeah. Jo Fiddy: everyone is there. And also, I was reading earlier and I love it, you can go on your own. Charlotte Body: Yeah. a hundred percent. Jo Fiddy: They're such a lovely community there, 100%. Charlotte Body: Yeah. I mean, we have a lot of women come on their own because Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: and also with younger women, what I've found is that they don't have the same support groups that maybe older women do because you have a situation where you have like one person start to go into perimenopause and then it's like a domino effect and then you find that the whole group are then talking about perimenopause. Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: you'll get the odd one that's, you know, not having any symptoms, which you know, again, which a lot of women don't have any symptoms and need to remember that and not not feel guilty that you're not having any symptoms. did an interview with Angela Ripham. for our Pause magazine, And she had didn't have any symptoms at all, but her mother did. So it you know it really do I think it really does Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: vary. but yes come along because what we have we have like chaperones that will walk you around and usually what happens is we don't even need to use the chaperones because our team is so welcoming everybody's so welcome in there. And as I say But we are there if you need us. and I think people have made friends that, you know, they've stayed friends with. And if you could bottle up that energy, you know, you would and sell it. You we would all be multi millionaires 'cause the energy, women supporting women and you know, and meaning it. Now that's the difference, I think, as well. The energy is just Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Yeah. Charlotte Body: gorgeous. Well, it gives me goosebumps, there you go. Jo Fiddy: I know what it all happened now. Because community is really clearly at the heart of Pause Live isn't it? It really, Charlotte Body: Yeah, yeah. Jo Fiddy: really is. And I was going to say also, there's a new edition this year. It's the Neurodiversity, Safe Space and Stage. Now, Charlotte Body: Yes. Jo Fiddy: talk more about that, but what inspired you to create it and what can women and your audience there expect to find from that? Charlotte Body: okay, well, it's really interesting actually because I can announce this now. Obviously, we've got Nadia Soala and Jo Fiddy: Okay. Yeah. Charlotte Body: Laura Dowling. these women are just just fabulous. I take my hats off to them because with their celebrities and they, you know, they could charge thousands of pounds to be but they haven't. And that just says it all about these women. Yeah. but They have both got ADHD like myself and they were saying, wouldn't it be nice if we could do it on a stage where we're not we're gonna feel comfortable because there's no loads loads of noise going around. Because Pause life can be noisy with the live stage, you've got radio there, you've got all sorts of things going on. So they were like that I said, wow, that'd be brilliant. Let's let's get a safe space where even if you haven't got any neurodiversity like sensory issues or or whatever it might be, somewhere where you can maybe just go, you know, if you're having a hot flash or you're not feeling 100%, you can just go and sit in there with on one of the sofas. and I think that's really important. So we've got three sessions running. we have got the most amazing doctors as well. that are going to be speaking. So we've got a session at eleven o'clock where we're going to be talking about how to get a diagnosis. You don't have to get a diagnosis. It's very clear sometimes that you have got ADHD like myself. But it's how you manage that. So they'll be talking about that. And then Nadia and Laura will be interviewed by the wonderful Michelle Ford, who also has ADHD, which I just think is going to be just wonderful listening to them. Jo Fiddy: sick yeah Charlotte Body: you know, all talk. So I'm definitely going to be sitting in on that one. and I think in the afternoon we've got a workshop, but we're gonna be doing it within that space on ADHD. So it's sponsored by the wonderful Centrum Healthcare, who you Jo Fiddy: Wow. Charlotte Body: know, support. women that are trying to look for midlife diagnosis. Now it's hard enough when you navigate in perimenopause, put put something else in. and it really, it really is difficult. So I think yes it's going to be a great space. You don't obviously have to have, I think people want to understand it a bit more as well. And so I think that'll be a really busy one during the day. So yeah, it's exciting. Jo Fiddy: I reckon. It's so exciting. And also I love that you're a mum, you before were a mum and you were a grandmother, mum to two daughters. And you've Charlotte Body: Hmm. Yeah. Jo Fiddy: spoken about wanting like better health information for future generations. How important is it to you that mothers and daughters and grandmothers can have that conversation together and what they can experience at Pause Live? Charlotte Body: Yeah. I mean I think that's I think that's a great thing to say with him. And I'm I know my daughters are hugely proud of me with this. even when they read my week of masturbation in one of the magazines. Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: They were still super proud and I thought it it You know, you that get to that point where they're older where you get you did you know, you have that sort of friendship with them, even though first Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: with their mum. and yeah, I think it's really important. I think, you know, with my granddaughter, we you know, we we call our body parts Vulvas and Vaginas. We you know, we have those sort of my mum was very much like that as well. You know, we were all brought up by a liberal mum and I think she was very much, you know, it's not a flower and I think that's so important, Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: that we what we've noticed as well, Joey is, you know We've got we're working in the men's health, I mean which we'll we'll talk about later, but Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: they're allowed to say anything, you know. We we're not Jo Fiddy: That's true. Charlotte Body: yeah, we're not allowed to say Vulva and vagina without getting Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: banned from Facebook. But you know, if we're talking about erectile dysfunction or penis, so there we're still and Google alerts Jo Fiddy: death. Charlotte Body: that the we get hundreds of them for men's health and very few for women's health. And the investment in women's health is still so small. Jo Fiddy: so small. Charlotte Body: Yeah, and we've we've got to change that. So with what we're relying on, and you said earlier about my team being so passionate, you know, there are younger women, Jo Fiddy: Amazing. Charlotte Body: and I feel like we're they're they're doing it for the next generation too. and they will they they will be more clear, they won't take no for an answer. so that you know, working with younger people I think's really important and I think that's why we feel that whatever age group comes along, I think we have lots of post menopause women come along every year because they just have the best day out and you get the best goody bag and and and what have you. So if you just want a good girl Jo Fiddy: this. Charlotte Body: girls' day out, Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: it's a laugh. We always have, you know, drinks going on and things like that. There's something for everyone really. and it's in St. Pause and which is a beautiful area. So I think yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be Good one. As I say, so much to pick from, but don't get overwhelmed with it. We are going to record the stages so you can always Jo Fiddy: You Charlotte Body: watch them back. And I think that's a really important thing to say. So if you Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: yeah, we're recording the stages. So if there's anything you haven't seen, it'll be up on our YouTube channel anyway after. because I know myself I get quite overwhelmed when I go to events. Like what can I I want to do this but I also want to do that and then Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: yeah, and then end up probably doing nothing and just drinking in the bar. Jo Fiddy: I love it, I love it. Charlotte Body: Okay. Jo Fiddy: I really love it. And I also know what you're saying about how you welcome everybody. Like Charlotte Body: Yes. Jo Fiddy: men are welcome and I've seen what men are, men come, men come along too. So yeah, come along, find out more. Charlotte Body: They take yeah. And really really important, Joe, for me at the beginning. I sat down when we were looking at marketing strategies and things and I said, Look, I personally feel like the menopause has been very much aimed at white middle class women and I don't want to be that. You know, if we were g doing it for them for Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Yeah. Charlotte Body: for for money it would be, let's aim at the ABC ones, get the private clinics there, blah, blah, blah. But the community to start had to be about bringing everybody together because, you know, other ethnic races have different menopause. Like African women will start menopause early, South Asian women will start earlier. And how they communicate their menopause is very different to how we might communicate Jo Fiddy: city. Charlotte Body: ours. And their symptoms are very different. Now I was very aware of that and everyone treads quite carefully for one reason or another. But we we were just like look we're gonna mark it. You're gonna mark to each each and in e everybody and but we're gonna do it properly. And I had a beautiful lady come up to me last year and she gave me a massive hug. And I said, I love a hug. Give me another one. And she said, I didn't expect to see so many people that look like me here. Well done. And that, you know, again, we need to do that Jo Fiddy: Sick. Yeah. Charlotte Body: because at the end of the day, it is everybody, you know, it can affect everybody, including men. I noticed women bringing men along much more now. because we have met so many men on our journey. And they really want to help women. They want to help their loved Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: ones. They're lost, you know, and they're like, How can I help? How much do I pay to sort about? said one guy. I said, if only it was that easy, darling, we'd all be dead. Jo Fiddy: from them. Exactly, but it's that wanting to help because they can feel like they're losing their partner or their auntie or whoever it is. Yeah, really. Charlotte Body: Yeah. Yeah they have and they do. People have really unnecessary divorces within that time. You know, you've got Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: men going through andropause midlife. Yes, it is a real thing, your testosterone levels go down. You've got women going through you know, perimenopause, you might have teenagers, elderly parents doing this awful, you know, shit sounds really, and then the communication Jo Fiddy: videos. Charlotte Body: stops and like, well, where do you go from there? And I've seen couples get divorced that really shouldn't have, if the communication had been open. We've got wonderful relationship workshop by the midlife mentors, the wonderful James and Claire. again, Jo Fiddy: you. Yeah, brilliant. Charlotte Body: bring your husband along to that or your partner, or just come on your own, just to give you some pointers on how you know how to keep that connection going when everything around you just it seems too much. I think it's really important and that they're fabulousies too. So yeah. there's so much to do, isn't there? Jo Fiddy: So much to do, I know. Charlotte Body: Yeah, Jo Fiddy: Well, I think you'd be doing the whole weekend, maybe. Could you imagine? Charlotte Body: I don't know if we could I don't know if in my team team would take that actually, but we we would Jo Fiddy: No, haha Charlotte Body: love to take pause to other areas because we went it's so expensive to get to London and Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: we did try and do some deals with some travel companies but we just couldn't get a hold of anyone. So if anyone knows any travel companies, please let me know. Just because I thought Jo Fiddy: Yeah, tune in. Charlotte Body: we will always gift tickets. if people haven't got finances to do so, please just DM us and we would gift a ticket 100%. If someone couldn't afford the ticket. Ticket's twenty Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: nine ninety nine, but and you get the goodie bag, you get everything included within that but and there's discounts available. But I think it's really important that, you know, people don't miss out of that. But then they've got to travel into London. So Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: we would love to take it to other areas where we can obviously, you know, help and support all over the country rather than just London. In fact, Manchester might be the new capital, you never know. What what Angel's doing. no, I just Jo Fiddy: Yeah, could be, could be. Yeah, Charlotte Body: I taught politics on a not. I don't care. I yeah, I don't care. Yeah. Jo Fiddy: everything's welcome on this pod. I tell you what, love, so pause like opposite covers lots of serious subjects, but I can't let you go without talking about you're a day raver. So how, Charlotte Body: I know, right? Jo Fiddy: and I'm all about pressing play. I'm more like with the forward being over 40, it's not the last dance. It's a brand new dance floor. And that's what it's all about with press play. And Charlotte Body: yeah, yeah, yeah. Jo Fiddy: with that, how important for you is having that. fun community and that sense at Pause Live as well. Charlotte Body: Yeah. Do you know what? I absolutely love dancing. I'm a dancer and Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: yeah, and I love music. I haven't been day raving as much as one would like this year because as you know, we have taken on quite a few projects here. However, when I have I've had a really good time. And you know, you meet the most amazing people on the dance floor as well. and I think it's a way of keeping fit, which I think is really important. I do a lot of dancing. on YouTube in the mornings to get me going. That really helps. It doesn't always have to Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: be like going out for the day rave but I want to probably be in bed by ten o'clock. might Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: have had a dirty kebab before I when I say dirty, just the chicken breast kebab, but that's dirty, isn't it? But no, I think I think we were talking off there, weren't we, about Jo Fiddy: Yeah, we're so the same. Charlotte Body: like now I've come, you know, out the other side of the min Jo Fiddy: Mmm. Charlotte Body: menopause. I haven't had a period now for over a year. Yay. so that officially makes me in the menopause. But I think, you know, learning new things is really important to me. And I really feel I'm really pleased that I went through what I went through to make me the person that I am today. And I always say to everyone, remember that this isn't gonna last. And actually I know it a cliche, but what you go through, whatever that might look like, you you'll come up the other side. And not having any periods is just such a a wonderful thing in itself. So there you go. and also you'll get Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Freedom. Charlotte Body: you'll get lots of period products at our event because Lilettes have sent us like thousands of boxes. So take yeah take a take an extra bag with with with the goodie bag just fill it up with to take him to work or or whatever but they're very generous of them we're very lucky to have such generous speakers that give up their time for free, the celebrities that give up their time for free. But also, you know, you guys, the the you know, the the the real roots that do these podcasts for us and get the spread of the word. so thank you, Joe, for having me on your podcast. Jo Fiddy: It's pleasure. Well, I have one more question for you, then I will release you back in the world. What... That Charlotte Body: Good luck, that's Jo Fiddy: you are free. What are you pressing play on next? Charlotte Body: Yes, the men's event. Woo! Do you know what we've been researching this? we work within the functional medicine longevity market as well. We've got another event for healthcare professionals called Future Patients. So obviously I've had my foot within that and it sort of opened my eyes very much to what is available and and you know, and our whole you know healthcare system and how how it's run. Now, as I mentioned earlier, I meet a lot of men on my travels. that are suffering with andropause or just generally really struggling with midlife. and we some of our planning meetings were really interesting because we obviously created a man. I think we c called him Melvin at one point he's now called John. But poor John, I mean literally the whole team were crying when we went through all of his symptoms. You know, he's got a wife that's got perimenopause, he's got teenage daughters from his first marriage, you know, little children he's got He's not having any sex, he can't get it up, he's Jo Fiddy: Everyone. Charlotte Body: last on the pecking order, you know, mum and dad are elderly. and we literally all of us said, like, you know, he is last to the pecking order, but he's still working. He doesn't go to Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: the gym anymore because he's worried about his weight, he's losing his hair, and he doesn't actually know what whether he's coming or going. So Jo Fiddy: Mm. Charlotte Body: we felt that there was a there was a gap. For us to feel where we could support men going through that journey Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: to help them support women. So the men's optimizing your health isn't about or Jo Fiddy: of it. Charlotte Body: it's not about keeping fit and you know, you know, your metabolic age or anything like that. It is about how midlife affects you, Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: and burnout, you know, and mental health. Now we know, you know, from all the studying that we've done on it, that you know, the mental health issues, the suicide rates, a divorce, and all of those sort of things. So if we can support men on their journey and support women and they can communicate, we'll have you know, better chance of keeping relationships together, families together. You know, the the big picture really here is we need to change our healthcare system. But we also need to change men need to feel like they're needed. you know, that's in their makeup. Jo Fiddy: Yeah, that's true. Charlotte Body: Women don't need men as much. So how do we get them to communicate on that level throughout here? Jo Fiddy: Yeah, I'm married now. Yeah. Charlotte Body: So it's really important. So during the day, our men's event will be for healthcare professionals. It's on November the 19th, which is actually International Men's Day. Now, when I put that right, guys, I know you're listening, I didn't know that. Okay. I rang one of the doctors that's that's chairing it and I said, Guess what? We've got the nineteenth of November in the day. He darling, well done. It's international mainstream. I was like, is it? So anyway, so in the evening we've got a couple of really good celebrities that we're speaking to at the moment, which obviously are gonna come along and do a TED talk about their midlifes, and I think that's really important. But we're gonna be talking about erectile dysfunction, testosterone, it's gonna be like a podcast sort of environment, really chilled, you know, lots of questions and you know, and also I think just lot of men might know that half of those things men might even know what the anthropause is. So yeah, if you know anyone that, you know, is suffering, and I know a lot of the women will probably buy tickets for their other halves, you can go to men's health event dot com and it all the details are on there. But I think it was was always gonna be the next step for me because I couldn't ignore all the men that I was meeting. and people like John really do need need need s you know support. it will it will Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: help the the bigger picture and I'm all about the bigger picture. But then I think for me we're not gonna be doing anything else. We've got an well at the Health Assembly have got all of their portfolio events. and what I tell you what we do do the menopause Jo Fiddy: Yeah. Charlotte Body: don't we? So yeah, it would be good. I think we're gonna do a new category as well at best podcaster Joe, you must get your entry in there. Yeah. Jo Fiddy: Absolutely, absolutely. Charlotte, it's been a joy. It's been so fantastic. I'm gonna put absolutely everything in the show notes so people can see that. And I Charlotte Body: Brilliant. Brilliant, thank you. Jo Fiddy: just wanna say the biggest thank you. I can't wait to see you at Pause Live in October. Yeah. I know. Charlotte Body: I know, I can't wait to have a hug. And I love it that you're attended with your flowers. That's you know, it's beautiful, isn't it? Jo Fiddy: it Charlotte Body: Thank you, Joe. I've really enjoyed it. And thank you for listening, everybody. And you can go to pauselive dot com, use the code PAUSETEN to get a ten percent discount from us. Jo Fiddy: Wonderful. Thank you so much. I'm to clap you out because you're just so magnificent.