Latest / The Dr. Psych Mom Show with clinical psychologist Dr. Samantha Rodman Whiten / Your Wife Has No Idea What Turns You On
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- 0:05Hi everybody, and welcome to the dr.
- 0:07Cyclops show today. I am going to be talking about
- 0:11that your wife has no idea what turns you on.
- 0:14Even if you think you've told her, you've not.
- 0:17If you're at all anything less than happy with your sex life,
- 0:22it is worth exploring. Whether you have in fact told
- 0:25her what she is doing wrong, which most men have not before
- 0:29we get into that, though. Please do subscribe.
- 0:31My most recent subscriber episode was on the kind of porn
- 0:34that actually helps. Sex lives and it's not what you
- 0:37think. So you have to subscribe to hear
- 0:39that anyway. So a lot of guys say that they
- 0:42like told their wife, what would excite them?
- 0:45And they have not because I get their wives and session their
- 0:48wives have no fucking idea. And so, the reason that this
- 0:51disconnect happens is because guys have this like whole like,
- 0:56you know, like this whole vast understanding that they're like,
- 1:02excellent. Like technically already,
- 1:04nothing. Manifests in any way, like, in
- 1:06real life usually but they have like this vast knowledge of
- 1:10pornography. And so therefore they know more
- 1:14about like kind of sex and and what it is, then women because
- 1:19women don't watch the porn, you know.
- 1:21So they don't know and they usually do not know in any other
- 1:25way. They don't like you know take
- 1:27sexology courses or anything, they have no idea and they
- 1:30usually have less experience than their husbands who may have
- 1:32very little experience themselves.
- 1:34But anyway, A they don't really know.
- 1:36So it's kind of like if you take a Calculus class and they're
- 1:39talking about something, but you don't know addition then you're
- 1:42not going to know like you're going to nod your head and maybe
- 1:46you'll think you know what they're talking about but you
- 1:48don't. So if the guy who's teaching you
- 1:50the calculus does not kind of simplify the explanation and go
- 1:55back to basics and you're not going to get anywhere because
- 1:57you don't know Edition. So a lot of women don't know
- 2:00what dition in this analogy. So I have and this isn't only
- 2:04men and women sometimes. A the woman is far more sexually
- 2:07experienced and she's trying to say to the man, what something
- 2:11like take charge, why don't you just take charge and so she's
- 2:15been with Myriad guys or at the very least.
- 2:18She's watched many movies where the guy let's say, picks her up
- 2:23and put her down on the bed and hold her hands over her head and
- 2:27tells her like, you know, you've been bad or something, let's say
- 2:31right, the guy has no fucking idea which is no idea at all.
- 2:35All which is talking about, not like you could for a million
- 2:38dollars, he wouldn't be able to guess that, that's what she
- 2:39means by take charge. So this poor guy.
- 2:42He says, hon. Let's go upstairs.
- 2:45Now, and he thinks man here I am really taking charge, right?
- 2:48And it's not even remotely what she wants.
- 2:51She thinks that he's being deliberately obtuse and in
- 2:55reality, he's being unintentionally up to us because
- 2:58he has no idea and also take charge means different things to
- 3:00different people. But in the situation, I'm
- 3:03talking about here, So that's, you know, when the so that's one
- 3:08situation, right? Where the woman keeps trying to
- 3:10tell the guy had to be more dominant.
- 3:12I have a whole post about this. I think I have a podcast about
- 3:14it too. When the man no I have opposed
- 3:18he was like eight ways to be more dominant in bed and nine
- 3:21ways to avoid common mistakes and execution.
- 3:23So I mean if you're a real literal list then you know you
- 3:26just kind of follow the bullet points there.
- 3:28But I'm talking hear more about the situation where the guy says
- 3:32to the woman, something like I just wish you were more.
- 3:35Or flirtatious. Who the fuck does that mean?
- 3:37Like she doesn't know what that means, she was never
- 3:40flirtatious. Like the guy also has to get his
- 3:42head out of his ass because frequently, he's like, oh yeah,
- 3:45used to be so great when we were in the honeymoon phase because
- 3:48he doesn't is called cognitive dissonance reduction.
- 3:51He doesn't want to think that he was an idiot that missed.
- 3:53All these red flags. So instead, he puts the early
- 3:56relationship on a pedestal. When I'll tell you something, a
- 3:59woman that does not know how to flirt with you and she's 40.
- 4:01Also didn't know what she was 25.
- 4:03It's not like she forgot, she Never knew she was just a cute
- 4:06little thing when she was 25. So it looked flirtatious when
- 4:10she just said, hello to you, but she wasn't flirting then either,
- 4:13you know, I mean there are certain things that you gotta go
- 4:15back so it's not to have like a lot of hostility and resentment
- 4:19in your relationship. You got to go back and be like,
- 4:21what really happened? And I talked about this a lot,
- 4:24you know, in terms of trying to accept your partner and
- 4:27empathize with them and not make things too difficult for them in
- 4:31a way. That's unfair the woman who
- 4:33doesn't know what you mean. Bye.
- 4:36I want you to be more flirtatious or I want you to you
- 4:39know I want you to want me. This is like a good one.
- 4:42This is a good one. That guy say, it's so funny
- 4:44because guys are like, oh women are so indirect, you want to see
- 4:48indirect on both genders become a couples therapist.
- 4:51Guys will be like, I don't know. It's like, you know, I just want
- 4:54her to, you know, want to do it. The hell does that look like in
- 4:58her mind she wants to do it because you're not raping her.
- 5:00So she wants to do it of if she did not want to do it, you would
- 5:04not do it. You know, in her mind there's no
- 5:07world in which you were forcing her to do it.
- 5:09Thank God. So thus she wants to do it so
- 5:12she has no clue that. What you mean is like a little
- 5:16Montage of the way that three different women that you love on
- 5:19PornHub. Look at the god which is really
- 5:22truly. It probably mixing with your
- 5:24high school Crush you know like you have a certain way that you
- 5:28think that a woman needs to communicate that she wants you
- 5:31and it's completely unfair to think that your wife is just
- 5:34going to know what That means, could you've never told her if
- 5:38you're like, why should I have to tell her?
- 5:39Well man, why should you have a better sex life?
- 5:41I mean, I'm with you then let's just forget it.
- 5:43Go play checkers, think about something else, but if you want
- 5:45to work on your sex life, then you got to be articulate.
- 5:48The same as men are always saying, women have to be direct
- 5:51men have to be direct and both genders are equally indirect
- 5:55about particularly about topics that they assume well that are
- 5:59awkward and that they assume the other person will know what they
- 6:02mean. They don't know what you mean,
- 6:04same as when a wife says. The husband be more romantic and
- 6:07he says, I don't understand, I bought her flowers, it was like
- 6:09three weeks ago. I bought her flowers, was the
- 6:11fucking problem. So with the same thing, when the
- 6:13guy says to the wife, I want you to act like you wanted, she
- 6:16wanted. She's there, she's having sex in
- 6:20her mind. It's like a total Miss
- 6:21Attunement. She has no idea what that means
- 6:23and you're not explaining it. So what would it look like to
- 6:26explain? It is like, I wish that you
- 6:29would make eye contact with me more in bed.
- 6:32I would like you to tell me that you want.
- 6:35At me, I want you to speak. I want.
- 6:37And, and so a lot of guys say to the wife, I wish it wasn't so
- 6:39silent. So she says that the, what does
- 6:42that mean? So she tries to like, do a
- 6:43little heavy breathing, she doesn't know what it means
- 6:45because she remember is not a porn Aficionado and so you know,
- 6:51you gotta tell her. So you would say, I want you to
- 6:54say, you know, whatever it is that you want her to say, which
- 6:58you can tell her because it's a hell of a lot better than you
- 7:00just assuming. She knows because I will swear
- 7:02to you now that she does not know if I knew she would have
- 7:06done it already because you mean this is another place where guys
- 7:10have to be real if she knew how to be more sexy and more
- 7:14alluring and more into it, she would have already done these
- 7:19things. If she is somebody who used to
- 7:21do it and you are in that small circumstance.
- 7:24Then you know that's not a lot of guys.
- 7:26Remember the vast majority of guys were with a woman who when
- 7:30they're really not good in bed now they never used to be but
- 7:32they just used to be more willing, more, happy more Young,
- 7:35You know, is novelty Etc, but let's say that you're in one of
- 7:39the guys were. She totally changed everything
- 7:41that she did and she used to talk extensively, dirty, talk
- 7:45and how she doesn't at all. Well then say, I used to like,
- 7:47when you would say XYZ, can you say that stuff again?
- 7:50And don't go down this bullshit, where if you have to ask for it
- 7:53it doesn't count. You would real on your wife like
- 7:56from your, oh my God. Imagine if she said, I want this
- 7:59special thing for my birthday and I know that it's going to
- 8:02like make me so sad if I don't get it, but I can't tell you.
- 8:05It is I can't tell you because then it wouldn't be special.
- 8:08You'll be like, what the fuck? What kind of game playing
- 8:10bullshit? Is this?
- 8:11But yeah, guys do that in bed all the time because they want a
- 8:14special thing but they won't tell the woman what it is
- 8:16because she just supposed to know because it's supposed to be
- 8:18spontaneous and organic, give me a fucking break, right?
- 8:21It's marriage. You're going to have to work on
- 8:23it. Same as parenting, you love your
- 8:25child but you also want to know what the hell they want for
- 8:28Christmas, right? So that you can give them
- 8:30something they like and not something that you used to like
- 8:33when you were 10 years old or whatever.
- 8:35So the point is that in a relationship as adult, you got
- 8:39to think I have to learn, and I want to help my partner.
- 8:42Learn. We have to learn.
- 8:44Yes, we are ganic. Ali have a connection of some
- 8:46sort. But after that, over the years,
- 8:48we change and grow, and we have to learn how to make each other
- 8:51happy in a very objective and open way, where were both
- 8:55receptive to feedback and willing to give feedback, which
- 8:58is often a greater problem than being receptive to feedback, is
- 9:01the partners unwilling to give the feedback in the first place.
- 9:04So you want to Your wife, this is what turns me on.
- 9:07This is what I like in a blow job.
- 9:08This is what I like with sex. This is what I like you to wear.
- 9:11This is this, this is that. And so what I was saying before
- 9:15is in the situation, where a guy, where the woman totally, I
- 9:19have two different in the honeymoon stage and she doesn't
- 9:20now remember to she was as I've discussed a million times,
- 9:25basically drunk on new Love and her hormones were raging.
- 9:28So with like saying to a girl, hey, can you just dance like you
- 9:32did when you were wasted just do that right now.
- 9:35I know you're ready to go to work.
- 9:36You guys taking the kids to daycare Just Dance though.
- 9:39Like right now, like you did when you were out, partying with
- 9:43me, when we went to Aruba that time.
- 9:45Five years ago, when you were wasted out of your mind, just
- 9:47dance like that right now do it, she can't do that.
- 9:50So, that's what it's like to ask a woman to just do what you used
- 9:53to do now in the honeymoon stage.
- 9:55If you say to her though, and she's not ready to take the kids
- 9:59to daycare, Etc, and she's willing.
- 10:01And she just, you know, is hanging out with you and you
- 10:03say, hey, can you You know, dance like you did in Aruba when
- 10:07you did x y z and she's in a good mood and it's just the two
- 10:10of you and you told her what XYZ is then maybe she'll do it
- 10:14because she doesn't fucking remember.
- 10:16And that's how a lot of women are after the honeymoon stage.
- 10:18The guys all the sexual memories imprint because it's very
- 10:21important to them. So they know exactly where they
- 10:24were when they got there. S the first second and third
- 10:26best blow jobs, right. The woman has no idea.
- 10:28She's basically in an altered trance State when she's turned
- 10:32on anyway, frequently and I should probably do a podcast
- 10:34about This, she's drunk. So, you know, I mean, it's like
- 10:39the way that she knows the kids first second and third word, you
- 10:42know, the way that she knows where she was like when she
- 10:46realized that she was having a boy and and those the, you know,
- 10:50or a girl or whatever, the things with the kids, all those
- 10:53Milestones that's the way that you remember, the sexual
- 10:56encounters, she remembers that shit with the kids.
- 10:58So it would be just as unfair for her to turn to you and say,
- 11:01do you even remember what Johnny's fourth word was?
- 11:05No, you don't fucking remember. It doesn't mean you don't love
- 11:07Jonny, but it's just like how she doesn't remember.
- 11:10You know what happened after she was Dirty Dancing with you in a
- 11:13rubra. She does it.
- 11:14Even though it may have been the highlight of your sexual life,
- 11:16she doesn't remember because she was hyped up on probably, as I
- 11:20said, drunk and also the new hormone love phase or whatever
- 11:25iteration of that, you know, because that can Wax and Wane if
- 11:28you take her to a new place or something, that sometimes you
- 11:30got a little bit of that Honeymoon Feeling, and those
- 11:34hormones, Ali just like hijack, her brain and she doesn't really
- 11:37record memory. The same way as you do.
- 11:40Certainly not, certainly not with the visuals.
- 11:42Remember her eyes are closed a lot of the time, I mean it just
- 11:45makes sense if you think about it, but a lot of guys don't
- 11:47think about it. And they take it personally like
- 11:49that the woman doesn't remember, the last time we had sex, this
- 11:51happens all the time. Couples counseling.
- 11:53Like, when was the last time you had sex?
- 11:55She was like I think it was like two weeks ago and he's like it
- 11:59was March 4th. It was in the evening.
- 12:01Remembers March 4th in the evening.
- 12:03And prior to that, yet. It was April 15th, it was in the
- 12:07morning, you know, and it's so funny because it's so different.
- 12:10But if I said to her, you know, anything about the children, she
- 12:13would remember that. And he would not or the most
- 12:16romantic thing that he ever did, she would remember that he would
- 12:19not. So, it's just all in what's
- 12:21really Salient to. You might have more
- 12:23testosterone, they're recording these memories more.
- 12:25So, anyway, the point is you got to tell your wife, what turns
- 12:28you on and if you think you did, you didn't because unless she
- 12:31hates you which is its own you no problem.
- 12:34You need to Get into couples counseling, then she would be
- 12:37trying to do more of the things. If you actually told her what
- 12:40they are, if she wants to be happily married and you say you
- 12:44know, can you can you tie me up with this thing that I'm
- 12:50handing? You can you take this scarf and
- 12:52tie up my hands? You know and be in charge like
- 12:56that by tying me up. You know, then she'll be like oh
- 13:00that's what he meant for 15 years about taking charge.
- 13:03I thought that he meant that I should take his hand and lead
- 13:04her To the bedroom, you know? And I did and I did do that and
- 13:08he always looked like he was not too happy.
- 13:10Well, I guess it's because he wanted to be tied up, right?
- 13:13So I mean you got to actually give the person a chance to do
- 13:17something that you like and if you think it's embarrassing to
- 13:20talk about these things, and that's why the sex life is some
- 13:22part. You have to get over your fear
- 13:25of direct communication, or of turning her off, or if her
- 13:28thinking, you're a pervert, or whatever.
- 13:30Because believe me, she already knows that.
- 13:32You're disappointed. You're not as good an actor as
- 13:34you say. Thing, you know, because women
- 13:36come in all the time after the guy said, oh yeah, she doesn't
- 13:38really know how this is dissatisfied.
- 13:40I am and I said, you know why, you're here?
- 13:42And she's like, because he's incredibly dissatisfied in the
- 13:44bedroom. I mean, she's not a moron, you
- 13:47know. I mean you you soak you know,
- 13:49you and you make faces, you saw. I liked it.
- 13:52Plenty of ways that you let her know that she's like not a rock
- 13:56star in the bedroom but you got to actually give her feedback so
- 13:59that she can improve, you know. And by the way, as there are
- 14:04many men who Ever criticize their wives in bed because
- 14:07you're just so happy to be with the whites.
- 14:09And this is like this is the majority of happily married met.
- 14:12So, you know, if your wife does respond to feedback, she's
- 14:16already awesome because like, it's unusual for women to get
- 14:20that much feedback, especially - fee negative feedback, positive
- 14:24feedback, they get but negative feedback.
- 14:26It's rare because until you a lot of couples are happy.
- 14:30You know when that invite includes a sex life to so and
- 14:3450% scent of people are securely, attached and securely
- 14:36attached relationships. It's primarily preoccupied men
- 14:40who are dissatisfied with sex life.
- 14:42So you know, the it's already going to be something that she's
- 14:46not heard before in her life and her purview with her friends
- 14:50that she always has a husband who's disappointed after sex.
- 14:54That's already bad. You know.
- 14:56So right. I mean it's already something
- 14:59that she was never expected to happen in her life.
- 15:02So now at least at the very Very, very least if you are this
- 15:07dissatisfied, don't make it vague and something that she can
- 15:11never accomplish. In addition to the fact that
- 15:13she's been criticized in the first place.
- 15:15Be extremely, loving and direct, and explicit about what you
- 15:19want. And remember, always lead with
- 15:21compliments. You're so hot.
- 15:23I just want to see you more. I would love it if we could
- 15:26leave the lights on. So many guys will be like she
- 15:29knows I want the lights on. How did she know?
- 15:31Because I always leave them on and then she's the one.
- 15:35Who shuts them off. What the fuck?
- 15:36That doesn't mean she knows that you want them on that back.
- 15:39She thinks that it's become her role in this interaction to be
- 15:42the one who shuts the lights. Because, of course, the lights
- 15:45get shut off. That's how she thinks about it.
- 15:47So many guys would be like, oh, she turns the lights off because
- 15:51she doesn't want to see me. She doesn't want to see the
- 15:52encounter, whatever know many women just like it better when
- 15:55it's dark. This is one of the things I
- 15:57talked about in my initial podcast for sensitive women is
- 16:00overwhelming the visual output they need to kind of get into
- 16:03that relaxed state. And that involves to the dimming
- 16:06the lights or turn them off and many women, find the encounter
- 16:09more intense, that way anyway, because there's not this
- 16:12Onslaught, you know like being in a sensory deprivation tank.
- 16:15You feel any little thing that does happen?
- 16:17Anyway, the point being any more than any of these individual
- 16:20examples can be useful, is the idea to reckon with that, you've
- 16:23not been as Master full of Communicator, as you may have
- 16:26thought. And if you have not ever said I
- 16:30want X and then Y and then Z then you're not a good
- 16:33communicator. Then you've just Just been being
- 16:35very vague and so that on top of the fact that she's being
- 16:38criticized implicitly, she has to deal with the fact that she
- 16:40literally has no idea what you mean, and it seems like a
- 16:43situation where she set up to fail.
- 16:45And you can't understand that because you have all this vast
- 16:48knowledge of porn to drawn to think that it like goes without
- 16:51saying that a woman would know how to give a blow job.
- 16:55She doesn't know how to give a blow job.
- 16:57Like if she didn't know when you were dating, she doesn't know.
- 16:59Now she didn't learn in the interim.
- 17:01Thank God. So, you know, I mean, thank God.
- 17:05Says it's a joke, of course. It would be nice if she Googled
- 17:07blowjobs but it would be nice if you Googled like how to, you
- 17:10know, engage in gentle discipline with my two-year-old
- 17:13or something that she wants you to Google.
- 17:15So we don't Google things that are outside our interests.
- 17:17And so thus you got to actually communicate what you want, and
- 17:21then you got a chance of getting it.
- 17:23All right, I hope that you found this useful and I'll talk to you
- 17:25soon.