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- 0:00Speaker 1: From the heart of the city, where the beat beats
- 0:03Speaker 1: the rhythm of your day.
- 0:06Speaker 2: It's Shawna.
- 0:14Speaker 1: What's up. You're listening to Shauna and La La. Check
- 0:17Speaker 1: us out at Shauna and Lala dot com on all
- 0:20Speaker 1: social media platforms at Shauna and La La. You could
- 0:24Speaker 1: follow me on Instagram at the Real Shorna May.
- 0:28Speaker 3: And check me out at Bella Underscore Lalla one two five.
- 0:32Speaker 1: We are still recuperating from our trip to Nashville.
- 0:36Speaker 3: I feel like I'm not back to myself normal self.
- 0:38Speaker 3: I'm still it's been how long, like a week? Yeah,
- 0:42Speaker 3: and I'm not still catching up on my sleep. That's
- 0:45Speaker 3: how I feel.
- 0:46Speaker 1: That's how I feel too. I just feel like I
- 0:49Speaker 1: can't sleep enough.
- 0:50Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't sleep well even if I try.
- 0:53Speaker 3: But I just I still feel very worn out, that's
- 0:58Speaker 3: the word for it. And I think it's been a
- 1:00Speaker 3: I probably I head back to back vacations and although
- 1:03Speaker 3: vacations are fun, traveling can be stressful, and especially when
- 1:09Speaker 3: like Nashville, I didn't sleep at all and it's a
- 1:12Speaker 3: lot so your body. It does. I feel like your
- 1:14Speaker 3: body takes a while to get back to normal, and
- 1:16Speaker 3: I think that for me, it was emotionally hard because
- 1:19Speaker 3: I had to leave my kids, and any parent out
- 1:22Speaker 3: there knows how hard that is, or maybe some don't,
- 1:24Speaker 3: because I feel like a lot of people I know
- 1:27Speaker 3: left and right, I see them on a mom's trip
- 1:30Speaker 3: or a girl's trip or a business trip, and they're
- 1:32Speaker 3: you know, they're not with their kids. So for me
- 1:35Speaker 3: it was harder. I've never left Julina. She's going to
- 1:38Speaker 3: be four in October, and I was never without her
- 1:41Speaker 3: more than a day, so that was really difficult for me.
- 1:44Speaker 3: I got through it, it was okay, but I think
- 1:47Speaker 3: the emotional wear and tear on that Sean, I could
- 1:50Speaker 3: tell you I was crying when I came to pick
- 1:52Speaker 3: her up to go to the airport, and I was
- 1:54Speaker 3: really upset. I was crying the whole way.
- 1:56Speaker 1: You were you were crying there.
- 1:58Speaker 3: Too, Yeah, so's it's hard and I think that that
- 2:02Speaker 3: definitely took a toll on me. So I feel for
- 2:04Speaker 3: parents who have to go through that and it's hard,
- 2:07Speaker 3: but I know that it is needed. I gotta start
- 2:10Speaker 3: to cut the mumbilical cord there.
- 2:12Speaker 1: So what did you think of Nashville. It was my
- 2:14Speaker 1: first time actually going to the downtown, the city of Nashville.
- 2:21Speaker 3: I loved it. I think the energy there was what
- 2:25Speaker 3: I loved most about Nashville. Just walking through the crowds
- 2:29Speaker 3: and crowd there was so many people.
- 2:32Speaker 1: It was almost like Manhattan.
- 2:34Speaker 3: Manhattan on like not just every day Manhattan. It was crazy.
- 2:40Speaker 3: It was crazy because in Manhattan I have a little
- 2:43Speaker 3: space to walk. There you were just bumpered a bumper,
- 2:46Speaker 3: like not bumpered to bump a person, a person walking.
- 2:49Speaker 1: Yeah, we were all like sardines.
- 2:51Speaker 3: Yeah. So to me, you know, like maybe I don't
- 2:55Speaker 3: know an event going on in the city, then you know,
- 2:59Speaker 3: that's what it was like. But so in thousands and
- 3:01Speaker 3: thousands of people, the energy, the bands, the music, the lights,
- 3:06Speaker 3: the the just how everyone was there to have a
- 3:10Speaker 3: good time. I loved that and you could feel that
- 3:12Speaker 3: as you walk down the street. What me and Seana
- 3:14Speaker 3: loved the most too, was so you have these bars
- 3:16Speaker 3: back to back to back, like all next to each other,
- 3:18Speaker 3: and they all have open windows, so there's no bait
- 3:21Speaker 3: like glass plane window on the front of the bar.
- 3:23Speaker 3: It's open, and each window has a band playing on
- 3:27Speaker 3: a stage right by the window, and as you pass them,
- 3:30Speaker 3: you're hearing, you know, like you're passing one's like blinkin
- 3:34Speaker 3: eighty two is they're playing that right there, and then
- 3:36Speaker 3: the next one is playing like a Jone Jet song
- 3:38Speaker 3: and the next one's playing a Miranda Lambert song and
- 3:41Speaker 3: you don't hear those songs until you get right in
- 3:43Speaker 3: front of it. And it's just like I loved it
- 3:46Speaker 3: so much, Like that was so cool to experience.
- 3:49Speaker 1: It really was. And I was just taken back by,
- 3:52Speaker 1: like you couldn't hear what the next bar was.
- 3:55Speaker 3: Playing now because you were just all you could hear
- 3:58Speaker 3: is what they were playing. And as soon as you
- 3:59Speaker 3: got past it was like boom, like switching the radio station.
- 4:02Speaker 3: I thought that was so cool.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was amazing.
- 4:05Speaker 3: And they're all so talented, and I love that about Nashville.
- 4:08Speaker 3: There's just so much talent that you're like wow, Like
- 4:11Speaker 3: you know the musicians and clubs that are out there now,
- 4:14Speaker 3: but to just think about how how many everyday average
- 4:18Speaker 3: Joe's out there were all this talent that aren't out
- 4:20Speaker 3: there in the big lights, that haven't made it, but
- 4:23Speaker 3: they could. They could definitely get a record label so easily.
- 4:27Speaker 3: So that was really cool. Is to see that, Like
- 4:29Speaker 3: we went and saw Todd Cameron. It's funny because her
- 4:33Speaker 3: so good. Yeah, my friends will followed him, well, not
- 4:36Speaker 3: all of them. A few of my friends followed them.
- 4:37Speaker 3: And one of my friends actually knows him. And I
- 4:41Speaker 3: walked in not even knowing he was playing, and I'm
- 4:43Speaker 3: like this, his name sounds familiar, what the heck? And
- 4:46Speaker 3: I'm standing there and watching and yeah, he was absolutely phenomenal.
- 4:51Speaker 1: Is he from our area?
- 4:52Speaker 3: No, I don't believe he is, but he's he's down
- 4:56Speaker 3: there and he just the talent is oozing out of him,
- 5:00Speaker 3: and the way he works a crowd is just it
- 5:02Speaker 3: was crazy. But what I heard from a friend, like
- 5:06Speaker 3: who's friends with him, He was saying that Nashville used
- 5:10Speaker 3: to be a place where artists went to showcase their
- 5:16Speaker 3: music and get discovered, get discovered by playing their original music.
- 5:21Speaker 3: Then once these bachelorette parties started going there, and Nashville
- 5:25Speaker 3: became this hot spot for partygoers and the bachelorette parties.
- 5:28Speaker 3: And you can imagine, we saw it firsthand. All these
- 5:31Speaker 3: little drunk girls. What are they gonna want to hear?
- 5:33Speaker 3: They're gonna want to hear theirs songs that they're playing.
- 5:36Speaker 3: Can you play Britney spears. Can you play you know
- 5:38Speaker 3: what I mean?
- 5:38Speaker 1: Yeah, and their outfits.
- 5:40Speaker 4: I just.
- 5:43Speaker 1: Yeah, every time we would be walking down the street,
- 5:45Speaker 1: I'm like, Lauren, look at this one.
- 5:47Speaker 3: Yeah, they're butt cheeks hanging out and shaking their booties
- 5:50Speaker 3: on those things.
- 5:52Speaker 1: The buses, the buses that went by.
- 5:54Speaker 3: It was insane.
- 5:55Speaker 4: It was.
- 5:57Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna get to that. But going back, so,
- 6:00Speaker 3: all these young girls are going there and they want
- 6:03Speaker 3: to hear their pop music. They want to hear the
- 6:05Speaker 3: songs that they like. They don't want to hear original music.
- 6:07Speaker 3: So they start either they're leaving. If you're playing original music,
- 6:10Speaker 3: they're leaving, or if you play the songs they request,
- 6:13Speaker 3: they're sticking around.
- 6:14Speaker 4: You know.
- 6:14Speaker 3: So it became Nashville became like less original and now
- 6:18Speaker 3: they're like cover bands. And I feel for him. I
- 6:21Speaker 3: feel for all those artists out there. I think we
- 6:24Speaker 3: were talking to Kobe Read, you know, when we did
- 6:26Speaker 3: our interview, and she said, it's hard. She gives them
- 6:28Speaker 3: a lot of credit because they had, you know, many
- 6:31Speaker 3: songs they had to memorize. They could they could play anything.
- 6:34Speaker 3: That's that's insane, that is absolutely I used to be
- 6:37Speaker 3: in a band and we had a practice, like I
- 6:40Speaker 3: think we had a set of seven songs, and we
- 6:45Speaker 3: had practice and practice and practice, and could I can't
- 6:48Speaker 3: even imagine if we had to know over a hundred
- 6:50Speaker 3: songs just randomly, like Kami Kazi. It like who's gonna
- 6:54Speaker 3: what are they gonna ask for today? I give them
- 6:56Speaker 3: so much credit. So but he was great, and like
- 7:00Speaker 3: every artist we saw was absolutely.
- 7:02Speaker 1: He was great. We should really get him on the show.
- 7:04Speaker 3: I would love that. I would love it. And the
- 7:07Speaker 3: other cool part was that after we were I think
- 7:11Speaker 3: I left you or maybe you were with me. No, no,
- 7:14Speaker 3: you went back to the hotel. I was roam in
- 7:16Speaker 3: the streets the first night. I wanted to check out
- 7:18Speaker 3: Kyote Ugly because I love that movie. Growing up, I
- 7:21Speaker 3: used to be a Coyote Ugly girl in our local
- 7:23Speaker 3: town bars. I just sang and danced on the bars.
- 7:26Speaker 3: You know, probably could get in trouble for that, but
- 7:29Speaker 3: we it was great. So I needed to go to
- 7:31Speaker 3: Coyote and you did it sober? I did. I don't drink,
- 7:35Speaker 3: so yes, I was on the bar dancing and singing
- 7:37Speaker 3: sober and it was it was great. You know, I
- 7:40Speaker 3: loved it. I loved entertaining like that, and we did
- 7:43Speaker 3: the water fight. I have videos of it. It's like
- 7:45Speaker 3: when I look back at it, I'm like, oh my god,
- 7:47Speaker 3: my kids are gonna see this one day. But it
- 7:50Speaker 3: was fun. So, you know, I had to go to
- 7:52Speaker 3: Coyote Ugly and I was very disappointed.
- 7:54Speaker 4: I was.
- 7:55Speaker 3: So I walked into this place and I'm like, this
- 7:58Speaker 3: is not what I thought Coyote Ugly would be. There
- 8:01Speaker 3: was about a bunch of older women on the bar dancing,
- 8:04Speaker 3: not the workers, but like customers. It was very weird.
- 8:08Speaker 3: I ended up leaving, but I went into Old Red
- 8:12Speaker 3: again because you know, I saw Todd Cameron the night before,
- 8:15Speaker 3: and I went in there to see who was playing.
- 8:17Speaker 3: And I look up on the screen and it says
- 8:20Speaker 3: Hudson Valley Band and we're from the Hudson Valley guys. Yeah,
- 8:24Speaker 3: And then I remembered, oh my god, I'm an idiot.
- 8:26Speaker 3: My friend from up here in the Hudson Valley and
- 8:30Speaker 3: his wife and they have a band and they moved
- 8:33Speaker 3: down to Nashville and it's called the Hudson Valley Band.
- 8:35Speaker 3: So my friend was there and his wife, so I
- 8:37Speaker 3: was like, oh, Rich is here. He's the drummer of
- 8:42Speaker 3: the band. His wife is the singer. She is so so,
- 8:45Speaker 3: so freaking good. The whole band is good. But that
- 8:48Speaker 3: was cool to see someone from our hometown in a bar, right.
- 8:52Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting it, like you know, so that was
- 8:54Speaker 3: really cool for me.
- 8:55Speaker 1: Nashville just really reminded me of like Broadway in New
- 9:01Speaker 1: York City.
- 9:02Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I could see that definitely, but with I
- 9:07Speaker 3: don't know, I feel like it was like a cooler,
- 9:09Speaker 3: cooler crowd. Maybe I don't know. I haven't been to
- 9:12Speaker 3: Manhattan in year, so you would know better than me.
- 9:14Speaker 1: Well, I haven't been there on years either, so yeah,
- 9:17Speaker 1: but I mean it just reminded me. And it's funny
- 9:20Speaker 1: because it was only like one strip, like one street.
- 9:26Speaker 1: It wasn't even like the whole street. It was like
- 9:27Speaker 1: half of the street was just bars and just entertainment
- 9:32Speaker 1: non stop. And then it's like you turn the corner
- 9:36Speaker 1: and it's like you're in like what we call like Middletown. Yeah.
- 9:40Speaker 1: It was quieter and quieter except except at night. The
- 9:47Speaker 1: uh there was motorcycles going by, couldn't sleep, fire trucks
- 9:52Speaker 1: going police.
- 9:53Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, part of I guess being in the city.
- 9:56Speaker 3: It's crazy, but I felt safe there. I have to say.
- 10:00Speaker 3: I would not feel as safe as I did in
- 10:02Speaker 3: New York City on New York City streets, Oh no.
- 10:04Speaker 1: And I felt super safe there. There was cops like
- 10:07Speaker 1: every few feet. Security was outside of every bar, in
- 10:13Speaker 1: every bar. They were on top of their ship. We
- 10:16Speaker 1: saw at one point they were like kicking people out.
- 10:19Speaker 3: Yeah, they were. They were definitely on there, on top
- 10:21Speaker 3: of things. There's I feel they have to deal with
- 10:24Speaker 3: a lot. There's the inebriation on that tree of people
- 10:28Speaker 3: being wasted out of their minds was absolutely insane. Oh
- 10:32Speaker 3: my god, insane.
- 10:33Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
- 10:34Speaker 4: There.
- 10:34Speaker 1: We were walking back the first night, I believe, and
- 10:38Speaker 1: some drunk guy he couldn't even walk straight. He kept
- 10:42Speaker 1: bumping into my mom and he like almost like ran
- 10:44Speaker 1: right indoor. Yeah, well he did run right indoor and
- 10:47Speaker 1: he almost like pushed her over. I was like, what
- 10:49Speaker 1: are you doing? Yeah, So I was like, I was like,
- 10:51Speaker 1: come here. I was like, just slow down, let him go,
- 10:54Speaker 1: you know, up ahead of us.
- 10:56Speaker 3: Yeah. That doesn't work all the time. No, Right, So
- 11:01Speaker 3: I promised you guys a crazy story. I mean, maybe
- 11:04Speaker 3: it's not that crazy, but it was a scary story,
- 11:06Speaker 3: and it had to do with I went out every
- 11:09Speaker 3: night by myself, pretty much like you know, Shona went back,
- 11:13Speaker 3: you know, at a certain time, and I was like,
- 11:14Speaker 3: I'm gonna stay out. I'm a partier. I love partying,
- 11:16Speaker 3: I love bands, love you know, walking around. So everyone
- 11:19Speaker 3: was telling me, don't do that. It's dangerous.
- 11:22Speaker 1: Yeah, my friends were all saying, be careful, it's dangerous.
- 11:26Speaker 1: It's you know, don't stay out too late. And I'm
- 11:29Speaker 1: thinking to myself. After the first night, I'm like, why,
- 11:32Speaker 1: Like this is fine.
- 11:32Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was saying. So the first night
- 11:35Speaker 3: I went out, I stayed till like midnight. I'm like, oh,
- 11:38Speaker 3: And I made a post that I was saying I
- 11:39Speaker 3: was fine. Everything was fine. It was great everyone. You know,
- 11:41Speaker 3: there's a lot of people. I felt safe.
- 11:43Speaker 1: It was a Thursday night.
- 11:44Speaker 3: Yeah, Saturday night, it's a whole different ballpark I had.
- 11:50Speaker 3: I went out. I wanted to see my friend's band,
- 11:52Speaker 3: the Hudson Valley. They were playing again, so I went
- 11:54Speaker 3: and watched them, and I was having such a good
- 11:56Speaker 3: time that I didn't realize the time. Once I looked,
- 11:59Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, it's almost two in the morning.
- 12:02Speaker 3: So I started, I said my goodbyes, I started heading out,
- 12:04Speaker 3: and as soon as I exited that old red bar,
- 12:08Speaker 3: I could feel the shift in the crowd and it
- 12:10Speaker 3: was different. It was a different crowd out there, and
- 12:13Speaker 3: I'm like, I have to walk how many blocks to
- 12:15Speaker 3: my hotel by myself? And I don't feel safe right?
- 12:20Speaker 3: And it was okay. I was like, all right, maybe
- 12:22Speaker 3: I'm just being dramatic. So I start walking and I
- 12:24Speaker 3: felt soon as I walked out of that bar, I
- 12:26Speaker 3: felt like someone was following me, and I have like
- 12:29Speaker 3: a good you know, people have gut feelings. I had
- 12:31Speaker 3: a gut feeling someone was following me, and I kept
- 12:33Speaker 3: looking behind my shoulder and it was hard to tell. Well,
- 12:36Speaker 3: after a few blocks, I still felt that way, and
- 12:38Speaker 3: I noticed this guy was walking alongside of me. He
- 12:41Speaker 3: was closer to the road, I was closer to the buildings,
- 12:44Speaker 3: and he was just walking in step with me. And
- 12:47Speaker 3: if I slowed down, he slowed down. And he kept
- 12:49Speaker 3: looking at me and then looking away really quick, like
- 12:51Speaker 3: really awkward, you know, And I'm like, hmm, should I
- 12:54Speaker 3: overreact about this or you know, the guy was very
- 12:57Speaker 3: well dressed, clean, you know, he didn't look like a
- 13:00Speaker 3: homeless guy. He didn't look like a weirdo, but I
- 13:03Speaker 3: was getting a bad gut feeling. So after it kept
- 13:06Speaker 3: going on, I'm like, I'm just gonna stop. I'm gonna
- 13:08Speaker 3: go to the wall. I try to find someone safe.
- 13:11Speaker 3: And yeah, I passed a few security guards, but they
- 13:13Speaker 3: were dealing with their own drama that I'm like, they're
- 13:16Speaker 3: not gonna be able to help me, you know.
- 13:17Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 13:18Speaker 3: So I saw these two men that were in the
- 13:20Speaker 3: inlet of this wall. I didn't know them. They were
- 13:23Speaker 3: there smoking, talking to each other, and I just like,
- 13:25Speaker 3: those guys, I'm gonna go buy them. So I put
- 13:28Speaker 3: my back to the wall by them, not really close
- 13:30Speaker 3: but in their area, and I'm like, let me see
- 13:32Speaker 3: if I'm overreacting. Maybe the guy is gonna go and
- 13:35Speaker 3: just keep walking. Well, I stopped put my back against
- 13:38Speaker 3: the wall, and the guy kept walking, and I'm like, Lauren,
- 13:42Speaker 3: you're such an idiot, like you always freak out about things.
- 13:45Speaker 3: And just as I was thinking those thoughts, the guy
- 13:47Speaker 3: stopped dead in his track and he just stood there
- 13:50Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh shit. He turned around, looked me
- 13:54Speaker 3: in the eye and ran at me like he belined
- 13:57Speaker 3: it right to me and he put his nose like
- 13:59Speaker 3: his nose was an inch from my face and he
- 14:02Speaker 3: grabbed my hand, my wrist. It wasn't my full hand,
- 14:04Speaker 3: so he had my wrist and my palm in his
- 14:06Speaker 3: hand and he's like, Hi, Hi, Hi, I'm Parker. What's
- 14:09Speaker 3: your name? Hi? I've been watching you. Your eyes are gorgeous.
- 14:11Speaker 3: You have beautiful eyes. And he's that close to my
- 14:14Speaker 3: face and I'm with my other hand because my one
- 14:17Speaker 3: hand he has it, I can't move it. I'm trying
- 14:19Speaker 3: to grab my little weapon I took up me on
- 14:21Speaker 3: the trip, my little keychain weapon just in case you're
- 14:25Speaker 3: like just stab in. So I'm trying to keep him talking.
- 14:27Speaker 3: I was like, my name's Lauren. I said how are you?
- 14:31Speaker 3: And I'm trying to get it, and that's all I said.
- 14:33Speaker 3: And he was getting closer, and the two guys next
- 14:36Speaker 3: to me noticed. I didn't have to yell, I didn't
- 14:37Speaker 3: have to scream. I didn't have to say anything. They
- 14:40Speaker 3: ran over and were like, who the f are you?
- 14:42Speaker 3: Do you know this guy? And I said no, and
- 14:45Speaker 3: then so they start pushing him and he like, get
- 14:48Speaker 3: away from her, get the f out of here, and
- 14:49Speaker 3: the guy pushed him in the chest. I mean, my
- 14:52Speaker 3: heroes I'm gonna call them, pushed the creep so hard
- 14:55Speaker 3: in the chest. And the creepy guy he had evil
- 14:59Speaker 3: in his eye. I'm telling you guys this, He just
- 15:02Speaker 3: he freaked me out. And he looked at the guy
- 15:05Speaker 3: who pushed him and said, I wouldn't recommend you doing
- 15:09Speaker 3: that again, just like that, just like all the freaking
- 15:12Speaker 3: serial killer movies I've watched, I wouldn't recommend you doing
- 15:15Speaker 3: that again. And I think it freaked them out a
- 15:19Speaker 3: little bit. And then but he kept going at him
- 15:21Speaker 3: and the guy just took off running. The creepy guy ran,
- 15:24Speaker 3: so the one guy chased him down, just kept chasing him,
- 15:26Speaker 3: and the other guy with me is like, are you okay?
- 15:29Speaker 3: And I'm like, I'm okay. I was like, how did
- 15:31Speaker 3: you know that? I how did you know to help me?
- 15:34Speaker 3: He goes, He goes, we're Dad's We just had this
- 15:36Speaker 3: sixth sense that something wasn't right there. And that guy,
- 15:39Speaker 3: he's like, that guy had a really bad look in
- 15:41Speaker 3: his eye. He reminded me of Dexter. And I've never
- 15:44Speaker 3: seen the show.
- 15:45Speaker 1: I've never seen it either, but I've heard about it.
- 15:47Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like he was like dexter or some kind
- 15:49Speaker 3: of serial killer vibe in his eyes. I said, I
- 15:51Speaker 3: felt the same way, and he's like, that's really scary.
- 15:54Speaker 3: He's like he had your hand. I can't believe he
- 15:56Speaker 3: was like grabbing you that way. I'm like, I know.
- 15:58Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know what could have happen, and
- 16:00Speaker 3: guys like I really don't because there were people out,
- 16:03Speaker 3: but you just never know, you know, yeah, you never know.
- 16:06Speaker 1: And how did he pick you out of the crowd.
- 16:09Speaker 3: I know that he must have. Maybe he was in
- 16:11Speaker 3: the bar watching me. That's what I'm wondering. I was
- 16:14Speaker 3: by myself the whole night at that bar, watching my
- 16:17Speaker 3: friends play. I didn't drink, and maybe he will follow
- 16:20Speaker 3: me out of the bar, you know. That's why I
- 16:21Speaker 3: felt that bad vibe as soon as I exited the bar.
- 16:24Speaker 3: I don't know, but long story kind of short. I
- 16:28Speaker 3: think the other guy came back. He's like, I can't
- 16:30Speaker 3: find him. He ran, he went down an alleyway. I
- 16:32Speaker 3: couldn't find him anymore. I was like, no, thank you
- 16:34Speaker 3: so much. I appreciate it. And he said that guy
- 16:37Speaker 3: had a dexter look in his eye. So I'm like,
- 16:39Speaker 3: what the hell, like we all felt it. And they said,
- 16:43Speaker 3: are you okay? Do you need anything? I said, I
- 16:44Speaker 3: don't know. I got to get back to my hotel.
- 16:46Speaker 3: They're like, you know, do you want us to walk you?
- 16:49Speaker 3: And I said yes. And I know my husband I
- 16:51Speaker 3: first was upset about that. He's like, what if they
- 16:53Speaker 3: were bad? I said, I just felt in my gut
- 16:56Speaker 3: that they were good guys. You know, that's why I
- 16:58Speaker 3: can't And they said, I you sure, We don't want
- 17:00Speaker 3: to make you feel uncomfortable. And they made a joke
- 17:03Speaker 3: that like, we're Canadians. You don't have to worry about us.
- 17:05Speaker 3: We're from Canada. So I was cracking up because you know,
- 17:08Speaker 3: the mid like Canadians are these like super friendly nice people,
- 17:11Speaker 3: you know? Yeah, but they were. They walked me all
- 17:14Speaker 3: the way back to my hotel, right to the door
- 17:17Speaker 3: of the hotel, and I took a picture with them
- 17:19Speaker 3: out to post it. They were great. I didn't even
- 17:21Speaker 3: get their names, but they were so nice and they're
- 17:24Speaker 3: both were dads, and uh, they just had that gut
- 17:27Speaker 3: feeling too. So I want to say this, if we
- 17:29Speaker 3: have any male listeners, or you have sons or husbands
- 17:31Speaker 3: or brothers or boyfriends tell them look out for us women.
- 17:37Speaker 3: We need to be looked out for and as tough
- 17:39Speaker 3: and bad and all these like independent women want to
- 17:42Speaker 3: act like they are, we're not. At the end of
- 17:44Speaker 3: the day, yeah we're not.
- 17:45Speaker 1: We're not.
- 17:46Speaker 3: And things if you are always aware and looking around
- 17:50Speaker 3: and looking out for people and other women or for women,
- 17:54Speaker 3: that can save our lives just like that. I don't
- 17:57Speaker 3: know what could have happened with this man. I don't
- 17:59Speaker 3: know what he could have done. Maybe he couldn't have
- 18:01Speaker 3: done anything. Maybe he could have hurt me. I don't know.
- 18:04Speaker 3: Maybe he could have drugged me. But no matter what,
- 18:07Speaker 3: they stepped in and they walked me and made me
- 18:09Speaker 3: feel safe. They walked me right to my hotel room.
- 18:11Speaker 3: And it was just an amazing feeling to know like
- 18:14Speaker 3: that there's still people out there that you can trust.
- 18:17Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, And you know I wouldn't. I would have
- 18:21Speaker 1: been scared to death. I probably would have shipped my pants.
- 18:25Speaker 3: Maybe that would have chased them away. I oh, no,
- 18:27Speaker 3: screwless one.
- 18:29Speaker 1: But on the other hand, there's cops around. Yeah, so
- 18:34Speaker 1: that guy had balls doing what he did.
- 18:36Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. I have to say, though, Shaana, there wasn't
- 18:39Speaker 3: because I would have. Since my husband's a cop, I
- 18:41Speaker 3: was gonna go right to a cop. At that time
- 18:44Speaker 3: of night, there was cop cars in the road with
- 18:47Speaker 3: their lights on, but there have no cops in them,
- 18:50Speaker 3: so I don't know if they were all dealing maybe
- 18:52Speaker 3: with the situation at a bar. But I because I
- 18:54Speaker 3: was looking as I felt this person or felt like
- 18:56Speaker 3: someone was following me, I was looking like, let me
- 18:58Speaker 3: find a cop, and they were all the cop cars
- 19:01Speaker 3: were empty. They had their lights on, but I'm like,
- 19:03Speaker 3: maybe they're dealing with a fight somewhere. You know, it
- 19:05Speaker 3: could have been.
- 19:05Speaker 1: So when we were walking back around ten or eleven,
- 19:10Speaker 1: the cop cars were in the road.
- 19:12Speaker 3: Yeah, they with the lights on, Okay, they were.
- 19:14Speaker 1: There was nobody in the cars. They were outside of
- 19:17Speaker 1: the cars watching the crowd.
- 19:20Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 19:20Speaker 3: I didn't see any cops. I mean I saw one,
- 19:23Speaker 3: but that was back closer to Old Red So by
- 19:25Speaker 3: the time I was feeling really scared, there wasn't anyone around.
- 19:27Speaker 3: So that's why I was like, they're probably in a
- 19:29Speaker 3: bar dealing with a fight or something. Probably because I
- 19:31Speaker 3: would have That's who I would have went to right away,
- 19:33Speaker 3: was a cop, Like, hey, I'm an officer's wife. Can
- 19:36Speaker 3: you like just help me here? I don't feel safe.
- 19:38Speaker 3: But luckily I found two great dads from Canada and
- 19:42Speaker 3: I called them my little angels and they were great.
- 19:45Speaker 3: So gott it you. And the other thing I brought
- 19:48Speaker 3: up to Shana is that what's scary is imagine if
- 19:51Speaker 3: I was drunk. Imagine if I was one of these
- 19:54Speaker 3: girls out there drinking my butt off.
- 19:57Speaker 1: Maybe that's what he thought me and I I was told.
- 20:00Speaker 3: My friend said that Nashville has become a predator's dreamland
- 20:04Speaker 3: because there's so many drunk women out there that it's easy.
- 20:07Speaker 3: It's easy for predators, even if they're not serial killers.
- 20:10Speaker 3: It's easy for predators, rapists, whatever, to take advantage of
- 20:13Speaker 3: these women. And I've got to tell you, there was
- 20:16Speaker 3: so many. They were hanging on me and the bar.
- 20:17Speaker 3: These drunk girls. They don't know what the hell they're doing,
- 20:19Speaker 3: They don't know where they are. That's so dangerous. So again,
- 20:23Speaker 3: for the ladies, please mind your liquor, have fun drinks something,
- 20:27Speaker 3: But you gotta be so careful because that situation could
- 20:30Speaker 3: have gone a whole another way. If I was drunk,
- 20:33Speaker 3: If I was drunk or on drugs that could have
- 20:36Speaker 3: I could have God only knows what could have happened
- 20:38Speaker 3: to me.
- 20:39Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so scary. And you know, not everyone is
- 20:43Speaker 1: like us, you know, we don't drink. Yeah, but the
- 20:48Speaker 1: amount of drunk people like I would say ninety eight
- 20:52Speaker 1: percent of the people were drunk.
- 20:54Speaker 3: Oh yeah. And it's fine, Like it's fine to have
- 20:56Speaker 3: drinks that have fun, like that's fine, we're not against
- 20:59Speaker 3: that or not like these.
- 21:01Speaker 1: No, but when you're falling down drunk, you don't know,
- 21:04Speaker 1: you don't know where you are, where you are, you
- 21:06Speaker 1: don't know your name, you don't know your boyfriend's name
- 21:08Speaker 1: or who your boyfriend is. Yeah, you know that's a problem.
- 21:13Speaker 3: It is, and that could and that guy could have
- 21:16Speaker 3: taken event maybe he does. Maybe that's what that guy does.
- 21:18Speaker 3: He goes around and he gets these drunk women. And
- 21:22Speaker 3: but I think I would look into missing girls over
- 21:26Speaker 3: there and it might be probably know, if there are any,
- 21:29Speaker 3: I wouldn't put it past this man. So yeah, just
- 21:32Speaker 3: be careful, not just in Nashville, anywhere you go, you
- 21:36Speaker 3: got you have to know your limit for your own safety,
- 21:39Speaker 3: unless you're there with someone who's sober, who can keep
- 21:41Speaker 3: control of you, but a lot of these girl groups
- 21:44Speaker 3: were not. They were all they were all done.
- 21:46Speaker 1: No. Indeed, the guy that the girl that came up
- 21:49Speaker 1: to you in the bar, her boyfriend could even keep
- 21:53Speaker 1: control over her.
- 21:53Speaker 3: No, yeah, there was a girl that came up. I
- 21:56Speaker 3: saw a girl being dragged out of the bar by
- 21:59Speaker 3: a man, and Seanna knows me. I step in, Yes,
- 22:03Speaker 3: when I shouldn't because I'm not big, But whenever I
- 22:05Speaker 3: see something going down, I always step in and try
- 22:08Speaker 3: and protect somebody. And this girl was being dragged out,
- 22:11Speaker 3: like by her wrist, and she was screaming and no
- 22:14Speaker 3: one was doing anything. So I ran over there. I
- 22:16Speaker 3: said are you okay? And he let go of her
- 22:18Speaker 3: and she grabbed me and she just held on to
- 22:20Speaker 3: me so tight, hugging me, and I could tell she
- 22:22Speaker 3: was wasted. And he's like, this is effin bullshit. He
- 22:25Speaker 3: starts cursing, and I'm like, this guy's big. I'm like,
- 22:27Speaker 3: what if he like punches me or something. Yeah, So
- 22:31Speaker 3: I said, is everything okay? And he stormed away, and
- 22:33Speaker 3: then I said to her, are you okay? She's like
- 22:35Speaker 3: I'm afraid. I said, what are you afraid of? She's like,
- 22:38Speaker 3: I'm from Minnesota, so she didn't even know the conversation
- 22:42Speaker 3: we were having. She says, she's afraid, and then her response
- 22:44Speaker 3: to me is, I'm from Minnesota. Like you're afraid you're
- 22:47Speaker 3: from Minnesota? Or are we having two different conversations here?
- 22:50Speaker 3: But yeah, her boyfriend came back over and she's like,
- 22:54Speaker 3: he's coming back. He's coming back, and I'm like, oh crap,
- 22:56Speaker 3: what am I gonna do? He's huge. So I just
- 22:58Speaker 3: stood there looking up at him. I'm like, what's the
- 23:00Speaker 3: deal here? He's like, that's my girlfriend and I'm like,
- 23:05Speaker 3: you want her to leave? He's like, yeah, she's drunk.
- 23:07Speaker 3: I said, okay, well she doesn't want to go, and
- 23:11Speaker 3: you know you doesn't look at it. You're pulling her
- 23:12Speaker 3: and he goes, I'll show you pictures. So he took
- 23:14Speaker 3: out his phone. He goes, we have four. I took
- 23:16Speaker 3: on four of her kids. They're not even mine, and
- 23:19Speaker 3: they had pictures together with kids. Does it mean anything?
- 23:22Speaker 3: Maybe they're separated? I don't know, but he's like I said,
- 23:24Speaker 3: he's like, she's wasted. I want her to go home
- 23:26Speaker 3: and she's like no, And then a guy next to
- 23:29Speaker 3: me finally stepped in. He was brave enough once he
- 23:31Speaker 3: saw me standing up to the guy to step in,
- 23:33Speaker 3: and then that just made matters worse. But yeah, they
- 23:37Speaker 3: ended up fighting in the bar and then the security
- 23:39Speaker 3: came out, came over and kicked them out. You know,
- 23:41Speaker 3: Like it's crazy to me. So I get it that
- 23:44Speaker 3: even when you are with someone, sometimes you can't control
- 23:48Speaker 3: when people are that wasted.
- 23:49Speaker 1: No, you can't. And you know security had to deal
- 23:52Speaker 1: with it. And who knows, they were probably fighting in
- 23:55Speaker 1: the parking lot. Yeah, in the streets, and I guarantee
- 24:00Speaker 1: she has no recollection of it.
- 24:02Speaker 3: No, and the poor guy, I mean, if he's a
- 24:04Speaker 3: good guy. The next day, i'd be pissed at her.
- 24:06Speaker 3: If that was my significant other, I'd be pissed, Like,
- 24:09Speaker 3: you know, I don't don't think this is gonna work out.
- 24:11Speaker 1: Yeah, I would be furious.
- 24:13Speaker 3: It made me look like an a hole. You made
- 24:14Speaker 3: me look like an abusive boyfriend when I'm just trying
- 24:17Speaker 3: to save you and get you out of this place.
- 24:19Speaker 3: I mean, if that's the case, it could have been
- 24:20Speaker 3: a different case, something scarier. But crazy know your limit.
- 24:25Speaker 1: So after that whole situation, we decided we needed a
- 24:31Speaker 1: day of relaxation, well part of a day of relaxation
- 24:35Speaker 1: because we were literally on the go from morning till night.
- 24:40Speaker 1: So we took a few hours to sit by the pool,
- 24:43Speaker 1: which was beautiful. It overlooked the city. It was absolutely gorgeous.
- 24:47Speaker 1: The water was not cold really at all, and the
- 24:51Speaker 1: whole pool was three foot deep. I couldn't believe that.
- 24:55Speaker 3: It's perfect for it was walk around the whole thing, yeah,
- 24:58Speaker 3: without drowning.
- 24:59Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't even really go into it because I'm
- 25:03Speaker 1: not one for public pools, but I you know, we
- 25:05Speaker 1: did sit in it for a little bit.
- 25:07Speaker 3: Yeah, it was nice.
- 25:08Speaker 1: My poppy lush beating suit fit me perfectly and it
- 25:13Speaker 1: sucked me all in. I couldn't believe it. I was like,
- 25:16Speaker 1: this is the best beating suit ever.
- 25:19Speaker 3: I told her, I said, Populush is the way to
- 25:22Speaker 3: go if you're trying to hide some of that. You know,
- 25:24Speaker 3: we all all swim and have it, you know, the
- 25:26Speaker 3: little belly, So Populush is just They're amazing with that
- 25:30Speaker 3: Number one, I have to say, with making you look
- 25:33Speaker 3: hot as crap.
- 25:35Speaker 1: I couldn't believe when you said like, oh, it's gonna
- 25:37Speaker 1: suck you in, I'm thinking, oh God, I'm not gonna
- 25:39Speaker 1: be able to breathe, but I was able to breathe.
- 25:41Speaker 1: It was tight, but I was able to breathe.
- 25:44Speaker 3: And it's comfortable. It's like tight but comfortable somehow. Yeah,
- 25:47Speaker 3: it was beautiful. It was a black, black one piece,
- 25:50Speaker 3: but it was so it just showed her shape. It
- 25:54Speaker 3: was really it was very flattering. Very flattering, that's the
- 25:57Speaker 3: word I was looking for. I love Populus, you know,
- 25:59Speaker 3: I've I bought from them for the past few years
- 26:02Speaker 3: that they've been around dresses mainly, but that bathing suit
- 26:06Speaker 3: made me. I think I'm gonna have to put one
- 26:07Speaker 3: of those in my bathing suit Arsenal.
- 26:10Speaker 1: It was beautiful and I'm not one for like one pieces. Yeah,
- 26:14Speaker 1: but I think I'm gonna have to start going into
- 26:16Speaker 1: one pieces because.
- 26:20Speaker 3: We're getting old.
- 26:21Speaker 1: Yes we are. But you wore the populush dress to
- 26:26Speaker 1: Dolly Parton's musical.
- 26:28Speaker 3: Yes, oh my god. I picked out a royal blue populush.
- 26:32Speaker 3: It's like a roofed body con kind of dress. So
- 26:35Speaker 3: it was right above the knees and it was very flattering.
- 26:38Speaker 3: Sucked me in, he hugged me in all the right places.
- 26:42Speaker 3: I loved it. I love the color too, and they
- 26:45Speaker 3: have little shorts under it, so you don't feel like
- 26:48Speaker 3: you're gonna be showing your butt like a lot of
- 26:49Speaker 3: those girls on the strip, where yeah, it comes with shorts,
- 26:53Speaker 3: so I don't worry about that.
- 26:55Speaker 1: They need to start shopping up Populush.
- 26:58Speaker 3: Yeah, but I love that the brand makes you feel sexy,
- 27:03Speaker 3: especially as a mom or as as we're getting older.
- 27:05Speaker 3: It makes you feel sexy. You look sexy, your your
- 27:08Speaker 3: hip and you're sucked in in all the right places.
- 27:11Speaker 3: And I love that about about Populush.
- 27:14Speaker 1: Yeah, I love them. I got one of their bras,
- 27:18Speaker 1: and their bras are so comfortable. Yes, I couldn't believe it.
- 27:22Speaker 3: Swears by them.
- 27:23Speaker 1: And like, because of my scoliosis, it doesn't ride up,
- 27:27Speaker 1: you know, the bathing suit fit perfectly. I absolutely love them.
- 27:32Speaker 3: Yeah, I highly They have so many different things, so
- 27:35Speaker 3: many muck. They have so many different options on their website.
- 27:41Speaker 3: So there's there's dresses, there's pants or shirts, corsets, the bras,
- 27:46Speaker 3: so there's just something for everyone. And they do cater
- 27:49Speaker 3: to women who are more blessed in the chest. So
- 27:55Speaker 3: that's how they started was for bigger bust women and
- 27:59Speaker 3: but I'm not and it fits me. It fits me perfect.
- 28:03Speaker 1: So while we were in Nashville, we decided let's meet
- 28:08Speaker 1: up with some local artists and hear their stories. So
- 28:12Speaker 1: we met up with a singer songwriter, Kobe Read. She
- 28:16Speaker 1: was amazing.
- 28:17Speaker 3: I felt, I'm in love with her. I'm in love
- 28:20Speaker 3: with her. I want her to be my best friend.
- 28:22Speaker 1: She was so cool, she was so nice, so sweet,
- 28:26Speaker 1: and talented, very talented. Oh my gosh, she actually songwrites
- 28:34Speaker 1: for other artists as well.
- 28:35Speaker 3: I know, I thought that was that was just so cool.
- 28:38Speaker 3: And now that she's branching into her own stuff, and
- 28:43Speaker 3: you know, she got such a following just from people
- 28:45Speaker 3: hearing her her. She does like country rap, you know,
- 28:49Speaker 3: and singing, but like she's kind of like meshing the two.
- 28:53Speaker 3: I think it's just genius. It's so cool.
- 28:55Speaker 1: It's brilliant. And she started off basically during just making
- 29:01Speaker 1: TikTok videos and she would she told us that she
- 29:05Speaker 1: would just post up a video or two and forget
- 29:08Speaker 1: about him for a few weeks and then post up
- 29:11Speaker 1: some more. And then she noticed, like her videos are
- 29:14Speaker 1: really getting a lot of traction and a lot of attention,
- 29:17Speaker 1: and she just blew up.
- 29:19Speaker 3: I know, I'm so happy. So it was great talking
- 29:23Speaker 3: to her, catching up and hearing how from where she
- 29:26Speaker 3: came and how far she's going. So and I love
- 29:29Speaker 3: her music. There's a lot of songs that I've just
- 29:31Speaker 3: been playing on repeating. My husband's like, what are you
- 29:33Speaker 3: still listening to her?
- 29:34Speaker 1: I'm like, I love it, but I guess we'll jump
- 29:39Speaker 1: in to our interview with her. You're listening to Shauna
- 29:42Speaker 1: and La La Today. We are in Nashville. We are
- 29:47Speaker 1: interviewing singer and songwriter Kobe Read today. I'm so excited
- 29:52Speaker 1: to have you.
- 29:52Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me.
- 29:54Speaker 1: So you started on TikTok yes and just up during.
- 30:00Speaker 2: COVID Yes, which was really really unexpected and really like
- 30:05Speaker 2: a fun kind of story.
- 30:08Speaker 4: I guess you would say an unexpected kind of thing.
- 30:11Speaker 1: I would say, so, I mean, I guess it makes sense.
- 30:15Speaker 2: Everybody was home exactly, and that's kind of yeah, that's kind.
- 30:19Speaker 4: Of like how it started. I was a writer. I
- 30:22Speaker 4: originally from northern California, but I moved.
- 30:24Speaker 2: Out to southern California, was going music school and ended
- 30:27Speaker 2: up being music school dropout and was a writer and
- 30:30Speaker 2: that world and the hip hop world for a while.
- 30:32Speaker 2: And I was about to have my first cut I
- 30:35Speaker 2: was really excited about. And then COVID happened and just
- 30:39Speaker 2: everything shut down and I was super bummed, and my
- 30:43Speaker 2: boyfriend I was like, well, like, everyone's home, we're not
- 30:48Speaker 2: doing anything. We're all, you know what I mean, just
- 30:50Speaker 2: at home, and TikTok's kind of booming. He's like, why
- 30:53Speaker 2: don't we just start filming videos and just post them
- 30:55Speaker 2: and just see what they do. And at that point,
- 30:58Speaker 2: I was kind of in the limbo of being a writer,
- 31:01Speaker 2: but also kind of I'm an only child, so I
- 31:04Speaker 2: always wanted to be an artist, but I was a
- 31:06Speaker 2: little bit insecure about taking that step of doing it.
- 31:09Speaker 4: And he's like, let's just do it.
- 31:11Speaker 2: Let's just throw them on there and post them and
- 31:13Speaker 2: then forget about him and just you know, post them
- 31:15Speaker 2: close the app.
- 31:16Speaker 4: Whatever happens happened.
- 31:18Speaker 2: I was like, okay, and yeah, he just filmed me
- 31:20Speaker 2: in front of these hedges outside of his apartment complex
- 31:22Speaker 2: and I was just like freestyling overbeats that he would play,
- 31:25Speaker 2: and yeah, we would just post them close the app,
- 31:28Speaker 2: post them close the app.
- 31:29Speaker 4: And I was so funny because.
- 31:31Speaker 2: I was so focused on Instagram at the time, you know,
- 31:34Speaker 2: like promoting and you know what I mean, like posting
- 31:37Speaker 2: them and commenting back that I didn't even think about TikTok.
- 31:40Speaker 2: And then one day we opened the app and we
- 31:43Speaker 2: just posted about like four or five of them back
- 31:45Speaker 2: to back. We opened the app and I had like
- 31:47Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty thousand followers, and we.
- 31:49Speaker 4: Were like, what the hell, what just happened? And then
- 31:53Speaker 4: we went back and.
- 31:54Speaker 2: We saw, yeah, the I did like a eminem freestyle
- 31:58Speaker 2: of my name is like a yellow jumpsuit and it
- 32:02Speaker 2: had like three hundred thousand views on it overnight. And yeah,
- 32:06Speaker 2: just from there and then we were like, all right,
- 32:08Speaker 2: we's that momentum, Let's keep going. And then we just
- 32:10Speaker 2: posted once to twice a week just different freestyles and
- 32:14Speaker 2: things that I would do, freestyles written like all these
- 32:17Speaker 2: different things, and songs and stuff that I had archived
- 32:20Speaker 2: or songs that I was pitching for other artists, just
- 32:21Speaker 2: to kind of see if it would get anytraction. And yeah,
- 32:24Speaker 2: just from there it just kind of went off. TikTok
- 32:28Speaker 2: was Cooey read was on TikTok.
- 32:31Speaker 3: And is that how you got started in industry? Or
- 32:34Speaker 3: I don't know if you were saying beforehand you were
- 32:35Speaker 3: kind of right.
- 32:36Speaker 2: Yeah, So I was trying to kind of break into
- 32:38Speaker 2: it as a writer first and foremost, so the artist
- 32:42Speaker 2: thing came a little bit later. And even when all
- 32:45Speaker 2: the freestyles and stuff were happening, I always kind of
- 32:48Speaker 2: wanted to do the avenue and.
- 32:49Speaker 4: The music that I was doing now, but I didn't
- 32:51Speaker 4: really know what that looked like.
- 32:53Speaker 2: You know, I grew up writing living an hour outside
- 32:58Speaker 2: of the area in Oakland, California, and San Francisco and
- 33:03Speaker 2: Dominantly that music scene is very hip hop oriented, so
- 33:08Speaker 2: you know, and I didn't come from money, so my parents.
- 33:11Speaker 2: I had a one income family. My dad was a
- 33:12Speaker 2: garbage band, my mom, you know, did dog rescue and stuff.
- 33:15Speaker 2: And it was one of those things where I had
- 33:18Speaker 2: to make it happen on my own. And it's kind
- 33:20Speaker 2: of get in where you fit in, and if you
- 33:22Speaker 2: were doing any type of pop or country or even
- 33:24Speaker 2: rock around.
- 33:25Speaker 4: That area, they wanted money from you.
- 33:28Speaker 2: But the hip hop scene and kind of where I
- 33:30Speaker 2: grew up and all the kids around that were a
- 33:32Speaker 2: little bit older than me, but we're still really into
- 33:34Speaker 2: music in garage band and recording and just finding ripping
- 33:38Speaker 2: beats off YouTube and all that stuff.
- 33:40Speaker 4: Yeah, they just kind of I was like twelve years
- 33:43Speaker 4: old and they were like fifteen.
- 33:44Speaker 2: They're like, hey, we have this makeshift studio. Let's you
- 33:47Speaker 2: know what I mean, start making music. And so that's
- 33:50Speaker 2: kind of how it happened, and I kind of dove
- 33:52Speaker 2: into hip hop. I like I say, hip hop kind
- 33:53Speaker 2: of chose me in that aspect and I just loved
- 33:56Speaker 2: it and I kind of got integrated into that scene
- 34:00Speaker 2: and then decided when I was eighteen, I wanted to
- 34:02Speaker 2: move to LA and went to music school because I
- 34:04Speaker 2: really wanted to kind.
- 34:05Speaker 4: Of dive into that.
- 34:06Speaker 2: But it was just from there just kind of progressed
- 34:09Speaker 2: and I was always doing hip hop and it was
- 34:11Speaker 2: always kind of where I got connected first with music.
- 34:16Speaker 2: But I always kind of wanted to sing, do that
- 34:19Speaker 2: kind of side of me, and growing up in Vacaville,
- 34:21Speaker 2: which is kind of an agricultural kind of town but still,
- 34:25Speaker 2: you know, we kind of have that sauce because we're
- 34:27Speaker 2: like right on that border of the Bay Area as well.
- 34:32Speaker 2: So kind of conforming and making the music that I'm
- 34:35Speaker 2: making now is what I always wanted to do. But
- 34:37Speaker 2: back then I didn't really know what that looked like.
- 34:39Speaker 2: I knew that jumping in. I knew how to wrap,
- 34:40Speaker 2: I knew how I knew how to do all this,
- 34:42Speaker 2: and I was really good at it. And I was like, Okay,
- 34:44Speaker 2: I'm gonna kind of see where this goes, and hopefully
- 34:49Speaker 2: when I start making my own music can kind of
- 34:52Speaker 2: direct producers or kind of.
- 34:54Speaker 4: Tell them what kind of sound that I was going for.
- 34:56Speaker 4: And now here we are.
- 34:57Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it, like you blend country and the
- 35:00Speaker 3: hip hop and loong before it became trendy, like yeah,
- 35:03Speaker 3: way before that.
- 35:04Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's kind of crazy. Like I said, like I.
- 35:08Speaker 2: Came out to Nashville, I was in LA for a
- 35:11Speaker 2: few years and then I met my manager Nick, and
- 35:16Speaker 2: I kind of told him, you know, immediately when I
- 35:18Speaker 2: first sat down because they found me on TikTok course,
- 35:21Speaker 2: and I was like, hey, I just want you to know,
- 35:22Speaker 2: like I'm not just a rapper, like I'm a I'm
- 35:25Speaker 2: a songwriter. And I've always said that first and foremost.
- 35:28Speaker 2: I'm a writer first more than anything.
- 35:30Speaker 4: And he was like, no, I know, and he's like,
- 35:32Speaker 4: what what do you want to do?
- 35:33Speaker 2: And I was like, well, I kind of want to
- 35:34Speaker 2: integrate like country pop and with hip hop and kind
- 35:37Speaker 2: of make it like saucy.
- 35:38Speaker 4: And that's what I always say.
- 35:40Speaker 2: My favorite word is like saucy, cause that's kind of
- 35:42Speaker 2: like what it is like. Kind of crazy too, because
- 35:44Speaker 2: I felt like I was a littlehead of the curve.
- 35:45Speaker 2: I came out here in twenty twenty two and I
- 35:48Speaker 2: was shopping wild Card and trying to and everybody was.
- 35:50Speaker 4: Like, whoa, this is a little bit too like to
- 35:53Speaker 4: off the.
- 35:53Speaker 2: Richter scale, especially in the country space at Nashville. And
- 35:57Speaker 2: now it's artist natural, ye, And so now there's like
- 36:01Speaker 2: a scene but you know what I mean, it's kind
- 36:03Speaker 2: of like in its own little niche kind of thing,
- 36:05Speaker 2: but now it's exploding even bigger and you see people
- 36:08Speaker 2: coming from every direction kind of doing that sound.
- 36:11Speaker 4: It's kind of cool.
- 36:12Speaker 2: It's actually to see that it's it's branching out and.
- 36:15Speaker 4: It's finally becoming you started it.
- 36:17Speaker 2: I wouldn't say I started it. There was probably definitely
- 36:19Speaker 2: a lot of people that came before me. But I
- 36:22Speaker 2: will say that it was one of those things where
- 36:24Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, in twenty twenty two, when I
- 36:27Speaker 2: first started kind of coming out here and releasing it
- 36:29Speaker 2: and trying to find producers, and it was it was hard. Actually,
- 36:33Speaker 2: when I first came out here, I was really excited.
- 36:37Speaker 2: I came out here for three weeks just to kind
- 36:39Speaker 2: of like feel everything out, and had like twelve sessions
- 36:41Speaker 2: lined up, and every single one of them canceled on
- 36:44Speaker 2: me except for one.
- 36:45Speaker 4: When I first came out here. Yeah, I think it was.
- 36:48Speaker 4: I think it was because they just didn't really know
- 36:50Speaker 4: what to expect. I didn't have any music out.
- 36:52Speaker 2: They just knew me, like they just saw my TikTok
- 36:55Speaker 2: following and my freestyles and stuff like.
- 36:57Speaker 4: That, and they were kind of like, what I was
- 36:59Speaker 4: this gonna yeah, like what are we going to make?
- 37:01Speaker 2: I don't have anything, So I don't blame them in
- 37:03Speaker 2: that aspect, But it's it's funny because now it's it's
- 37:06Speaker 2: a funny story to tell and everything kind of doing
- 37:09Speaker 2: so well, and I'm finally making the music that I've
- 37:13Speaker 2: always wanted to make. It's really cool kind of see
- 37:16Speaker 2: how it blossomed and how I just stuck with it
- 37:18Speaker 2: and kept going and.
- 37:20Speaker 4: We love that.
- 37:21Speaker 3: Then that's why we like to showcase artists like you.
- 37:23Speaker 3: It's like taking your own unique style and it's like
- 37:26Speaker 3: your dream, right and you're and you're watching it's your
- 37:29Speaker 3: baby and to see it right now, come to fruition
- 37:32Speaker 3: and it's it's so successful. That's that must be an
- 37:35Speaker 3: amazing feeling. That's all I have to say.
- 37:37Speaker 4: Oh, for sure, definitely.
- 37:38Speaker 2: I think I think it's also a sign of persistence
- 37:42Speaker 2: that you just have to keep going regardless if people
- 37:45Speaker 2: get it.
- 37:45Speaker 4: There's a lot of people that aren't gonna get it.
- 37:47Speaker 2: But if they don't get it, then that's almost a
- 37:48Speaker 2: good thing because then you're doing something that just hasn't
- 37:50Speaker 2: been done before.
- 37:51Speaker 4: But like I said, there were you know what I mean.
- 37:53Speaker 4: And then later on I.
- 37:54Speaker 2: Found out that there was like a whole community of
- 37:56Speaker 2: like like a hip hop community or what they call
- 37:59Speaker 2: it or whatever. Yeah, that kind of like and I
- 38:02Speaker 2: was like, oh, there are people that kind of do this.
- 38:05Speaker 2: But I do feel like I'm not necessarily in that
- 38:08Speaker 2: genre specific I feel like it's like country.
- 38:10Speaker 4: Pop, like I said, with a little bit of sauce.
- 38:12Speaker 2: Like I kind of I wrap too, so I kind
- 38:14Speaker 2: of like to incorporate everything together. It's not like I'm
- 38:17Speaker 2: just full on wrapping country. It's you know what I mean,
- 38:20Speaker 2: It's a little bit of.
- 38:21Speaker 3: A good blend, very good blends.
- 38:22Speaker 2: Exactly like a pop esque country sound, which is which
- 38:26Speaker 2: is cool, and it allows me to kind of go
- 38:27Speaker 2: in different songwriting directions that I really want to go
- 38:29Speaker 2: to and storytelling and stuff that I really love doing.
- 38:32Speaker 1: So are you still writing music for other artists? Yeah? Yes,
- 38:36Speaker 1: just focusing on you.
- 38:37Speaker 2: Yeah no, uh so when the it depends on the project,
- 38:41Speaker 2: so I get reached out to sometimes. I definitely love
- 38:44Speaker 2: doing that still. Like I said, I've always considered myself
- 38:47Speaker 2: a writer first, So it's always fun and it's fun
- 38:50Speaker 2: to kind of wear different different faces or different artists,
- 38:53Speaker 2: and one of my favorite things is I like to
- 38:55Speaker 2: dive into that artist's catalog and try and write from
- 38:59Speaker 2: their perspective.
- 39:00Speaker 1: So do you feel like you're ahead of the curve
- 39:03Speaker 1: or being ahead of the curve? Do you feel that
- 39:07Speaker 1: it gave you an advantage of being one of the
- 39:09Speaker 1: first to have that sound or do you think it
- 39:13Speaker 1: still has challenges?
- 39:15Speaker 2: I think it still has challenges obviously. I think that
- 39:18Speaker 2: the music industry in general is always changing. So that's
- 39:23Speaker 2: kind of back to kind of what I was saying
- 39:25Speaker 2: about always just exercising and you know what I mean,
- 39:28Speaker 2: even writing for other people, even writing outside your genre
- 39:30Speaker 2: sometimes is always like good to do just because you
- 39:33Speaker 2: want to stay sharp, you want to stay current, you
- 39:35Speaker 2: want to make sure that you're ahead of a curve
- 39:38Speaker 2: instead of just following one.
- 39:40Speaker 4: And I think that's what's important and also knowing your strengths.
- 39:45Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that, I'm like, I like to try
- 39:49Speaker 2: and be ahead of the curve in a way. I
- 39:52Speaker 2: feel like when I first started kind of doing what
- 39:55Speaker 2: I was doing, it was almost like a tree in
- 39:57Speaker 2: the woods in a way because it was so new
- 39:59Speaker 2: and such a fresh kind of sound that was that
- 40:02Speaker 2: was happening. But now you know, with all these there's
- 40:07Speaker 2: so many major artists that are now kind of crossing
- 40:09Speaker 2: over from you know, hip hop worlds to whatever. I
- 40:15Speaker 2: would say that, like, obviously Jelly Roll was the first
- 40:18Speaker 2: person that really kind of transitioned from like the real
- 40:22Speaker 2: hip hop world to.
- 40:23Speaker 4: The country space.
- 40:25Speaker 2: But you know, I kind of not necessarily followed suit,
- 40:28Speaker 2: but I always knew that that's what I wanted to
- 40:31Speaker 2: do too, And I'm just kind of keep my head
- 40:33Speaker 2: down and just kind of focus on what I'm doing
- 40:36Speaker 2: and love what I'm doing, and kind of whatever plays out,
- 40:39Speaker 2: it's going to play out. In that aspect, try not
- 40:41Speaker 2: to think too much about it and just enjoy where
- 40:45Speaker 2: I'm at and the fact that I'm making the music
- 40:46Speaker 2: that I've always wanted to make and just being authentic
- 40:49Speaker 2: to myself.
- 40:50Speaker 3: You know, we love that. And your debut single Church, Yes,
- 40:54Speaker 3: they made top fifty on iTunes, right, that's.
- 40:56Speaker 2: Amazing debut, which was really really crazy and I wasn't expecting. Yeah,
- 41:00Speaker 2: especially doing that transition where it was like one of
- 41:03Speaker 2: the first singles that I put out and from everybody
- 41:06Speaker 2: knowing so much of the hip hop stuff that I
- 41:09Speaker 2: did was kind of nerve racking because it was a
- 41:11Speaker 2: little bit more of a singing song as well me
- 41:13Speaker 2: being insecure about my voice for so long and singing
- 41:15Speaker 2: and kind of integrating that into my sound.
- 41:18Speaker 4: I was really nervous on how people were going to
- 41:20Speaker 4: react to that.
- 41:21Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the second part of the question, is like,
- 41:23Speaker 3: do you feel like that was a turning point in
- 41:25Speaker 3: your career that getting through the.
- 41:26Speaker 4: Top fifty For sure.
- 41:28Speaker 2: I'd like to say that, you know, the universe kind
- 41:30Speaker 2: of gives you signs on specific things, and maybe it's
- 41:33Speaker 2: not gonna be like overnight, or it's going to be this,
- 41:35Speaker 2: or it's not going to be you know what.
- 41:36Speaker 4: I mean exactly how you anticipated. I mean, everybody when they.
- 41:40Speaker 2: Put out a song, in the back of their mind,
- 41:42Speaker 2: whether they want to admit it or.
- 41:43Speaker 4: Not, it's going to be like this is going to
- 41:45Speaker 4: be a smash. Everyone's gonna love it.
- 41:47Speaker 2: It's it's so good, you know it's gonna be number one,
- 41:51Speaker 2: or else you wouldn't be, you know what I mean,
- 41:53Speaker 2: doing what you're doing. You wouldn't believe in yourself as
- 41:55Speaker 2: much to put in the time and the effort to
- 41:56Speaker 2: really put yourself out there and do what you're doing
- 41:58Speaker 2: at a specific level. Yeah, I just kind of took
- 42:01Speaker 2: that as I'm exactly where I need to be. This
- 42:04Speaker 2: is exactly, this feels right. I love it, and most
- 42:08Speaker 2: of all, like I love what I'm doing, like I
- 42:11Speaker 2: love the music that I'm making. I've never made more
- 42:14Speaker 2: music that I've been connected to that felt more authentic
- 42:16Speaker 2: to me than what I'm making now. So yes, nearly
- 42:18Speaker 2: the universe is in support of that. So I just
- 42:20Speaker 2: got to keep going and keeping.
- 42:21Speaker 1: You're challenging yourself exactly, Yeah, and it's working out and.
- 42:25Speaker 2: Kind of trying to make a new sound in a way,
- 42:27Speaker 2: you know what I mean saying in that In that
- 42:30Speaker 2: you know, having country elements but also being pop but
- 42:33Speaker 2: also incorporating that hip hop element that I grew up making.
- 42:37Speaker 4: It's authentic to me.
- 42:38Speaker 2: I couldn't be happier with with what I'm doing now.
- 42:41Speaker 1: And what are you currently working on?
- 42:43Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're actually so I've been putting out singles
- 42:46Speaker 2: for the past you know, two three years, two and
- 42:48Speaker 2: a half years or so. Ultimately I want to put
- 42:51Speaker 2: out an album probably during fall, around fall time is
- 42:55Speaker 2: what we're projecting. Obviously, things could happen. I'm always writing
- 42:59Speaker 2: and I'm always creating new stuff, and this is the
- 43:01Speaker 2: next one, No, this is the next one. Wait, no,
- 43:03Speaker 2: this one beat this one. No, I like this one
- 43:05Speaker 2: more so I'm always kind of but it's also such
- 43:08Speaker 2: a beautiful thing because I feel like as an artist,
- 43:11Speaker 2: that's what you want to continue doing is leveling up
- 43:13Speaker 2: and making sure that your next, your next single beats
- 43:17Speaker 2: your last single.
- 43:19Speaker 4: Like oh, it just keeps getting.
- 43:20Speaker 2: Better and better and I'm learning more and I know more,
- 43:23Speaker 2: and it just it makes it more fun, it makes
- 43:25Speaker 2: it more challenging, like you said on yourself, because you're like, no,
- 43:28Speaker 2: I want to beat that last like that single, Like
- 43:30Speaker 2: everyone loves that like everyone loves wild Card, Well guess
- 43:33Speaker 2: what they're gonna love when I drink?
- 43:35Speaker 4: You know what I mean. It's it's a different vibe,
- 43:36Speaker 4: but it's, you know, still in that same realm.
- 43:39Speaker 3: I love thee. My favorite line was he doesn't like
- 43:44Speaker 3: when I drink, and I don't like it when he thinks,
- 43:46Speaker 3: but I don't like him like he thinks. Yeah, got
- 43:50Speaker 3: it wrong. I love that one.
- 43:52Speaker 4: Honestly, that works too, though.
- 43:53Speaker 2: It's so funny because a lot of people, a lot
- 43:55Speaker 2: of people get that too, and they'll be like, oh man,
- 43:57Speaker 2: I don't like it when he thinks, but it's it.
- 43:59Speaker 4: Is so true, you know.
- 44:02Speaker 2: And it's so funny too because with when I Drink specifically,
- 44:05Speaker 2: it's such a cheeky fun song and you'd be amazed
- 44:10Speaker 2: how many people get so like bent out.
- 44:12Speaker 4: Of shape about it. And I'm like, come on, like,
- 44:14Speaker 4: it's a cheeky, fun song.
- 44:16Speaker 1: I love it.
- 44:17Speaker 2: You know how many times, like you've probably been out
- 44:20Speaker 2: or even just something like I are you been dating
- 44:22Speaker 2: a guy or you meet a guy and.
- 44:23Speaker 4: He's like, I don't like it when you drink. It's like,
- 44:25Speaker 4: well I don't like you like you?
- 44:27Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like it's just one of those fun,
- 44:31Speaker 2: fun songs to go out to and get ready for
- 44:33Speaker 2: girls night or just I want.
- 44:34Speaker 4: To make a song for the girls. Yeah, you know,
- 44:36Speaker 4: that's exactly what we did.
- 44:37Speaker 1: Do you actually go downtown? So this was our first
- 44:40Speaker 1: time to Nashville? Really? Yes, So going downtown last night
- 44:45Speaker 1: was really cool seeing all the bars, all the people,
- 44:48Speaker 1: and every bar had a different band or performer. Yes,
- 44:53Speaker 1: and you couldn't hear from the next bar over like
- 44:56Speaker 1: the it's so weird.
- 44:58Speaker 2: But like sound installation is crazy those bars, Like I
- 45:00Speaker 2: don't know how.
- 45:01Speaker 4: They do it.
- 45:02Speaker 2: I don't know, except for when you're walking you can
- 45:04Speaker 2: just hear everything, but then when you go inside you
- 45:07Speaker 2: can just hear that band.
- 45:08Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you perform at any of these bars?
- 45:11Speaker 2: Uh?
- 45:12Speaker 4: Not necessarily on Broadway? I haven't. I haven't done that yet.
- 45:15Speaker 2: Well, I've done like Whiskey Jam, I've done like Riley's
- 45:18Speaker 2: Duck Blind, I've done the Listening Room. So I've done
- 45:22Speaker 2: like a lot of like the showcases and stuff in Nashville.
- 45:25Speaker 2: But I wouldn't say I have been like a Broadway performer.
- 45:31Speaker 2: So there's kind of like different girls. So there that's
- 45:33Speaker 2: like a whole entity of its own that's like.
- 45:36Speaker 4: A whole beast of its own.
- 45:39Speaker 2: And honestly, I give props to them because the amount
- 45:42Speaker 2: of they, I mean, mail perform for like five hours
- 45:45Speaker 2: straight and just hustle and play and sing and take requests,
- 45:52Speaker 2: and the amount of knowledge of just songs that you
- 45:55Speaker 2: have to have because you have to stay on top
- 45:57Speaker 2: of it and stay current. I don't even know if
- 45:59Speaker 2: I could do it. So I give so much props
- 46:01Speaker 2: to them because I as much as I would love to,
- 46:04Speaker 2: and probably at one point I would, I would love
- 46:06Speaker 2: to just do it just for a night to see.
- 46:08Speaker 4: You know what I mean to do it to say like, yeah,
- 46:10Speaker 4: I did like pay but but I have not yet.
- 46:15Speaker 3: No do you have any concerts or shows coming up
- 46:18Speaker 3: or planning?
- 46:19Speaker 2: So right now I've just been really toning and focusing
- 46:22Speaker 2: on on just getting all my projects together and just
- 46:26Speaker 2: getting everything ready to go.
- 46:28Speaker 4: So I've been recording a lot.
- 46:29Speaker 2: But I'm hoping, Yeah, during fall, I'm hoping to hopefully
- 46:35Speaker 2: like open or do like a small mini tour, do
- 46:37Speaker 2: a couple of shows.
- 46:38Speaker 4: Kind of outside of Nashville.
- 46:40Speaker 2: I really want to go back to my hometown and
- 46:43Speaker 2: do a show that's like been a really big thing
- 46:46Speaker 2: that I want to do high on my list, I would.
- 46:48Speaker 1: Say, so you're all turning out on the floor.
- 46:50Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we're working towards it right now.
- 46:52Speaker 2: And you never know us musicians like exactly, but that's
- 46:56Speaker 2: kind of the game plan, that's kind of the goal.
- 46:58Speaker 2: I feel like we put out enough seeing I feel like, yeah,
- 47:03Speaker 2: I feel like I'm ready for that. And I don't
- 47:06Speaker 2: necessarily know what that track list is gonna look like.
- 47:08Speaker 4: Obviously it's gonna have a lot of.
- 47:09Speaker 2: Singles that I that I put out already, or like
- 47:11Speaker 2: an EP or some type of project.
- 47:13Speaker 4: But it's always been a dream of way two to
- 47:15Speaker 4: just put out a full project.
- 47:16Speaker 2: So I think that's gonna be something I'm really working towards.
- 47:19Speaker 1: So where can our listeners find your music and get
- 47:23Speaker 1: in touch with you?
- 47:24Speaker 4: Ah?
- 47:24Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm I mean, I'm across all social media,
- 47:26Speaker 2: how we read on all platforms.
- 47:28Speaker 1: And that's our show for this week. Thank you so
- 47:30Speaker 1: much for tuning in. Be sure to tune in next
- 47:33Speaker 1: week for our part two of our Nashville trip. We
- 47:38Speaker 1: have Mary Claire on the show. Next week. You're listening
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- 47:54Speaker 3: And check me out at Bella Underscore Laala one, two five.
- 47:58Speaker 1: We will see you next week