Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / The Customer-Centric Approach: When BANT Elevates Your Sales
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- 0:01Hello and welcome. My name is Tavishima Ayede.
- 0:04I'm focused on solving sales and marketing challenges through
- 0:07business education. And I'm making today's recording
- 0:11in church because the kids are having cat kism classes, so I
- 0:15expect to hear some noise in the background.
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- 0:41Now today on the podcast is also going to be another diary
- 0:46episode series of conversations that I've been having with
- 0:50Rudolph, LC and Shell, who are sales people that sell solar
- 0:54installations, inverter batteries, you know, all that
- 0:59good stuff. Now for those of you who've been
- 1:00listening for the last 2-3 weeks, you know you're already
- 1:02familiar with the diary session. So let's just get into it.
- 1:06If this your first time listening to one, don't worry,
- 1:08you get caught up to speed. It's just me talking to people
- 1:12who are who make up the sales team for one of my clients.
- 1:17And then I come over here once in a while and I share some of
- 1:19the things that we talk about in the hope that some of you
- 1:22listening to the podcast will be able to pick out one or two
- 1:25helpful things from it. And also so that there's some
- 1:28audio or less in audio footprints, audio recording
- 1:32audio, something so that they can listen members of the team
- 1:35can listen back to later on. So this is one of the meetings
- 1:40that we had. Let's see.
- 1:44Let me see. OK, this was meeting on the
- 1:45first day. OK.
- 1:48Yeah. So we have been talking a lot
- 1:50about qualification and discovery.
- 1:52Now these are very technical sounding terms when it comes to
- 1:55sales and business development, but in a very, very simple
- 1:58sense, qualification and discovery just means one thing.
- 2:01OK, Well, a few things. It refers to the part of the
- 2:04business relationship where you're trying to have simple
- 2:07convos, simple conversations with the potential customer that
- 2:11you're talking to at the moment and you're trying to figure out
- 2:13a few things. Who is this person?
- 2:15What are they about? What are they interested in?
- 2:18What are they running away from? What are they running towards?
- 2:21What's the problem? What's the vision?
- 2:23Is this something that I can fulfill myself?
- 2:25Do I have to bring in an extra squad?
- 2:27You know, whatever it is, Shah But you just ask questions.
- 2:30You try and figure out the extent of the problem and who
- 2:32they are. And that is important because
- 2:36this is where you will get all the information to be able to
- 2:38give an appropriate quote. So that's one of the reasons why
- 2:41we do it. However, I'm trying to get the
- 2:44sales team to understand that share Go LC and Rudolph that if
- 2:50you do this part of the sales process very well, you'll find
- 2:55out that you you will shorten your call times as your
- 2:59conversations will be sharp, sharp, sharp because you quickly
- 3:02get to the point. And also because you find out
- 3:05that you're spending more time with people who are likely to
- 3:09end up becoming customers at the end of the day.
- 3:12Because one of the demoralized, demoralizing things in business
- 3:15is that you're talking to so many people.
- 3:18You make like 50 phone calls in one week.
- 3:20At the end of the day, only, you know, 5 people buy now five
- 3:24people buying. You know, that's all right.
- 3:26But The thing is that remaining 45, you just feel as if you are
- 3:28wasting your time. So if you get into the habit of
- 3:32handling qualification and discovery very well, you find
- 3:35that you are now spending less time with all these all serious
- 3:38people work up as people. I was just curious people, you
- 3:43know, people chat, you'll spend time with people who are going
- 3:46to be wasting your time. So you shorten call times, you
- 3:50will remove curious people quick, quick or people you have
- 3:53no time, no reason to spend time with and you're not going to
- 3:58privatize people who are likely to become customers.
- 4:02So that's the reason why this is important.
- 4:05Now I had introduced them to a qualification method I think the
- 4:10week prior called band, which is a budget authority need and
- 4:14timeline, and I made a podcast episode about that.
- 4:17Now Budget authority, need and timeline band.
- 4:20What that means is you need to be engaging people, excuse me,
- 4:24engaging people early to try and figure out what their money
- 4:28expectations are. Because some of you wait until
- 4:30the end and it's absolute BS to spend 4 weeks talking to
- 4:34somebody and then at the end of the four weeks they will say,
- 4:37ah, your price is on the high side.
- 4:39Now The thing is, if the price is on the high side, it is best
- 4:43to find out in week 1 after you've had one or two
- 4:46conversations with the person rather than you wasting time
- 4:49relationship building, you, you say you're, you know, trying to
- 4:52build rapport, everything. Then in week 4, they will now
- 4:54say you're too expensive. The thing is, if you're too
- 4:57expensive, excuse me, you've always been too expensive, you
- 5:01are better at finding out in week 1 than wasting 5 weeks
- 5:04talking with somebody. So I believe in getting straight
- 5:06to the point. Now for some of you, it's a
- 5:08little too direct, but that's not a problem.
- 5:10Just keep listening to the podcast.
- 5:12You'll find out the different methods that I try and teach
- 5:15people about how to broach the conversation quickly.
- 5:18But either way, money conversations, budget
- 5:20conversations, let's have this early authority conversations
- 5:23that's all about trying to figure out decision making.
- 5:26Who is responsible for making the decision?
- 5:28Because there's no point in spending five weeks talking to
- 5:30somebody only to discover that you are talking to the houseboy
- 5:34and the houseboy has no authority to write a check or
- 5:37that you are talking to the PA and the PA has no authority to
- 5:40write a check. Now, there are some
- 5:42organizations where the PA has a spending limit, like, you know,
- 5:45for every single purchase that is below 150,000, go ahead and
- 5:49pay before anything that costs, you know, 200K OP, you know,
- 5:52reported to Olga. But The thing is we need to be
- 5:56having those conversations early before we invest time into the
- 5:58process. So that's what authority
- 6:00conversations are about also so that we make sure that we're
- 6:03speaking to the right number of people because sometimes 2345
- 6:07people are required to make a decision.
- 6:09If you don't believe me, for those of you who are selling
- 6:11highly complex sales, or even if it's even if you think it's a
- 6:14simple something, but let's say now, OK, because I'm here in
- 6:16church, let's say you want to sell into church and you think
- 6:19no problem, so long as I speak to the parish priest is OK.
- 6:22That might not be the case. There are some churches where so
- 6:25long as you speak to the parish priest, you're good to go.
- 6:27But there's some other parishes where you need to speak to the
- 6:29parish priest. The parish priest would need
- 6:32approval from finance. The finance guy is going to
- 6:35receive instructions from the parish pastoral committee.
- 6:38So you need to figure this thing out early so that you now know
- 6:41that OK, in the beginning you're coming up with a strategy for
- 6:44talking to the parish priest and make sure that you have a hook
- 6:47up with one or two people in the parish pastoral council.
- 6:50That way you will get your deal closed.
- 6:52So it's the same thing. You know, in highly complex
- 6:56sales, let's say like now you want to win government contract.
- 6:58If you want to win government contract, you can't say because
- 7:00you're talking to the governor that the deal will close.
- 7:04You know, it would be nice to be talking to governor, it would be
- 7:06nice to be talking to somebody in Ministry of Works, another
- 7:08person in Ministry of Finance, no one or two people in their
- 7:11house. That is essentially what
- 7:13authority is about. Who is going to cut the cheque?
- 7:15How is payment going to be made? Who are the relevant parties?
- 7:18How can I bring them into the conversation?
- 7:20Then what else? Budget authority and need.
- 7:27So of course, that's the part where, you know, most of us do
- 7:29OK, because you're trying to figure out what the person needs
- 7:32so you can deliver adequately. So let's not dwell on that.
- 7:35And then timeline, that is one place where most Nigerians
- 7:38stroke. And in fact, when I brought up
- 7:41timeline questions, it's something that Shell in the team
- 7:44particularly liked because you realize that if you're asking
- 7:48questions about timeline, you are going to be able to weave
- 7:51out people who are serious, some people who are unserious.
- 7:53And for me, this is one of the things that I do.
- 7:56So I ask, OK, if I understand you correctly, you wanted this,
- 7:59this, this, this, and you want that, that, that.
- 8:02By the way, how soon do you need this?
- 8:05The person who says, oh, we need it for next week Thursday.
- 8:09I now know that I have a serious client on my hand.
- 8:12If somebody says, oh, no, no, no, it's not like I needed to.
- 8:15I was just asking then, you know, at least now I know.
- 8:18And I'm not going to be following up endlessly with
- 8:20people. So lots of people don't get into
- 8:23the habit of asking timeline conversations.
- 8:24And you should be having these sorts of conversations.
- 8:28You know, how soon do you need this by?
- 8:30When do you like us to? Would you like us to go ahead?
- 8:34How soon do you want us to start?
- 8:37Who are we going to deliver to? Can I have the phone number for
- 8:40the person who's going to be accepting delivery?
- 8:43You know, is from asking things like that, that somebody say,
- 8:45Oh, no, no, no, I was just asking you.
- 8:48My cousin's sisters aunty is getting married in two years
- 8:50time. So I said, let me just do some
- 8:52research. That kind of person.
- 8:53There's no point hanging around that sort of person for too
- 8:57long. So that's the band criteria that
- 8:59I introduced them to. And I suspect I made a podcast
- 9:03recording about that before. If I didn't, then this is just
- 9:07sort of like a recap now, since I've already spent close to 10
- 9:11minutes on bands, let me just stop here because I've noticed
- 9:14that a whole bunch of you who listen to the podcast, a lot of
- 9:16you stop at like minute 10 or so.
- 9:19Now there's some diehards who listen all the way to the end
- 9:22and the diehards. I really, really appreciate you
- 9:23guys. But I figure, you know, let me
- 9:26relax. Let me stop being so hardcore
- 9:29because I guess it's a lot to take in for the other people.
- 9:32So I'm going to stop here now on band because the summary that I
- 9:39want to share with you guys today actually was not about
- 9:41that. It's about spin.
- 9:42And spin is another qualification framework.
- 9:44So if you enjoyed listening to this episode, just hang on.
- 9:48The next one that we're going to move into is going to be about
- 9:50spin selling. Now spin selling is not not
- 9:55spin. You know, like when Americans
- 9:56say spin, you know, they mean you don't like Fabu.
- 9:58Like you go on, you know, you sharp mouth, you sweet mouth,
- 10:02you know, you dazzle somebody, you just spin the thing you
- 10:05understand. So it is not about Fabu, it's
- 10:08not about lying, it's not about tweaking the truth and none of
- 10:14that. So just hang on.
- 10:16And in the future episode, in the next episode, the very next
- 10:18episode, we'll get into spin selling.
- 10:22So that's it for now. Yeah.
- 10:26So that's it. And that's all for today.
- 10:28Now remember, if you'd love to connect with me, you can call,
- 10:30you can SMS, you can WhatsApp me on 08064662140.
- 10:36Thank you very much for your time and attention.
- 10:38I'll catch you next time. Same place in your headphones
- 10:42and in your speakers.