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• How Supermodel Carol Alt Healed Her Body with Food and Found Lasting Energy === Carol Alt: [00:00:00] It's what you do most of the time that gives the body its benefit or its detriment. Mm. It's what you do most of the time. I was noticing at 36 years old, my hair was starting to turn gray. I was starting to get wrinkles. I was losing my desire to work and my energy level. My doctor, my holistic doctor, said it best. He said, Carol, you know, you're the accumulation of everything you do to your body. That means everything that you put in and on your body. At some point shows on your face. Mm, this was a gift you were given. Health is a gift. Ooh, that's a great way to think about this, right? And you need to take care of that gift. You give the body what it needs, and you can rebuild Dr. Taz: yourself. Welcome to Whole Plus. The podcast that embraces and tackles the holistic way, bringing it all together, science research, innovations in technology, and our collective human experience. This is where science and spirit come together. I'm Dr. Taz, your host and a double board certified medical doctor and integrative health expert, a nutritionist and an [00:01:00] acupuncturist. I'm also the founder and CEO of whole Plus. A digital and clinical platform where my team and I practice evidence-based holistic medicine every single day. I know and I hear all the health and wellness noise that's out there. I want this show to be the one to empower you with the knowledge you need to heal. Not just your body, but your relationships, your communities, and our world. Welcome to Whole Plus. There are so many food and diet trends out there right now. It's actually quite dizzying even for me. You hear about keto, vegan, gluten-free, paleo, anti-inflammatory. Which one are we supposed to do now, while I've always talked about. Personalizing diet recommendations to you. Here's something that we are not talking very much about nowadays. It's the raw food diet and to help educate us and learn more. I've brought on Carol Alt. That's right. You heard me correctly, Carol Alt The swimsuit. Sports Illustrated magazine cover. She's [00:02:00] graced so many magazines over the years. She's a renowned supermodel and she's been dubbed the face by the fashion industry. Since her days as the world's most renowned supermodel, Carol has gone on to be a multi-award winning actor, a successful entrepreneur, a bestselling author on raw food and nutrition, and the host of a Healthy You and Carol Alt on the Fox News Channel. Please welcome Carol to Whole Plus. Right, Carol Alt is on my show so hard to believe I'm having a pinch me moment. I have watched and followed you for such a long time and have really admired you for multiple reasons. Not of course, just because of the gorgeous beauty that you are, but you've always sort of advocated and talked about holistic health in different ways, right? Whether it was your diet or how you took care of yourself. I am so curious in today's landscape where there's probably every procedure available to everybody at every age, age, it didn't take you long to get into that Dr. Child at every single [00:03:00] age. Even my 17-year-old is like, do I need this? And I'm like, please stop. You know? What is your definition of holistic beauty and what would you tell women today? Carol Alt: You know, I try to tell women today that your beauty starts at a young age, at their twenties and thirties. It's really important what you eat, how you nutrition your body, what you put on your skin, what you wash your hair with. Uh, you know, I actually, my whole, my doctor, my holistic doctor said it best. He said, Carol, you know, you're the accumulation of everything you do to your body. That means everything that you put in and on your body. At some point shows on your face. Mm. And for me, that was in my sixties. You know, all of a sudden your sixties, you start going like, okay, what do I need to adjust in order to tighten my skin back up and gimme back my energy? And, and that's a big one with all my girlfriends, is energy. Dr. Taz: Energy is the big thing they complained about. But you know, I just caught you on something. You said it took you till 60. Mm-hmm. To notice anything. Yeah. The majority of [00:04:00] my patients and women I meet today, 40, 40. Yeah, so that's a 20 year sort of, well, I've been raw differential. So you've been raw from, I've been for 36 years, so I wanna talk about that. We're gonna go right there. So, you know, I've read that about you, I think for years about that, how you've been raw and you chose to go raw. I wanna learn more about that. You know, that's sort of, when we look at Ayurveda or we look at other systems of medicine, they have opinions on being raw, right? So talk to us about your choice. To go raw, you know, how that evolved and you know, how do you do it? That's another question, you know, and we'll go from there. Carol Alt: Okay. Well, first of all, you know, my decision to go raw wasn't just, I pulled it out of the sky and said, oh, I feel I should do this. I studied, I spoke with doctors. I found what was right for me and for my body. I was what we call a very acid system. Mm-hmm. I was very high strong, a type personality. And uh, or you know, some people call it parasympathetic strong. [00:05:00] Some people call it parasympathetic, you know, weak. But that's how they decide what they do and how they eat. Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm. Carol Alt: And for me. I was, I was noticing at 36 years old, my hair was starting to turn gray. I was starting to get wrinkles. I was losing my desire to work and my energy level and. You know, I truthfully, this sounds so crazy, but it's part of holistic medicine. I went more spiritual. I prayed on it. Dr. Taz: Hmm. Carol Alt: And one day out of the blue, in the middle of praying, I got a phone call from a friend of mine who said, oh, you need to speak with this doctor. He's going to. Change your mind and on how you look at food. Dr. Taz: Hmm. Carol Alt: And his name was Dr. Timothy Brantley. He wrote the book called, uh, the Cure. Mm-hmm. The Brantley Cure. And it was 15 weeks, New York Times bestseller. Amazing. And he's my guru. And, um, I, at first I resisted and then I said, what am I doing? I tried every stupid ridiculous diet out there. And nothing worked for [00:06:00] me. And when I spoke with the doctor, he just made total and complete sense. It was like the universe opened up and I just knew that this information that I was getting was something that was gonna change my life. So you're Dr. Taz: 36 Carol Alt: years old, you're struggling with gray, early energy. He, but I had more health issues than that. I mean, I had. Uh, I, I had a CandE, uh, blood infection, which I didn't know about, and a doctor here told me it was a poison sumac. It turned out to be CandE in my blood. Timothy, Dr. Timothy diagnosed me right over the phone. He said, I'm surprised you don't have this, this, this, this, and this. Sinus infection, colds and flu after every movie. Dr. Taz: Mm. Carol Alt: I would be working three or four months on a movie. Boom down for two weeks, back up to do a movie again. Oh, wow. It was, it was a really bad routine. And, you know, I tried everything too, to stay thin because in the modeling industry, right. I was five foot 11 at 115 pounds. Mm. And the cover of Sports Illustrator is 115 pounds. And it, it, you know, it, it [00:07:00] does, it That does something to your body. Yo-yo, dieting, dieting in itself, all these crazy things. People do. Trends. Yep. Mm-hmm. To lose weight, they. All wreak havoc on your body. And what I found was raw food was kind of nirvana. It was the garden of eating. You know, I could eat and not feel guilty and not have that fat thigh feeling. Right. You know when you go, oh, I just feel like a, what did I just eat? Yeah. And I just knew if I stayed on this road that this was, this was the right road, because it's the closer you eat to God. And this is almost spiritual. It's all spiritual. I mean, it's all spiritual. Wow. It's, it's how you take care of this temple, this gift that you were given. I see people beat themselves up with alcohol and drugs and cigarettes and staying out all night and doing all kinds of crazy thing, and they have total disrespect for their health. And then when they. Become unhealthy or dis diseased. They go, why? Why? God, why did you [00:08:00] do this? And it's like, not why God. It's like, you know, this was a gift. This was a gift you were given. Health is a gift. Ooh, that's a great way to think about this, right? And you need to take care of that gift and you need to be appreciative and grateful of that gift. And only when you lose that do you. Start becoming grateful for all the small little things. Mm-hmm. I always like to say to women, listen, you know, you could have all the Versaces you want in your closet. Mm-hmm. But if you're too sick to wear them, who cares? Who cares? Right. If you're too sick to enjoy them. If you're not happy, because hanging over your head every day is this hammer about to hit your anvil. Mm. Because you, you know, you're, you're waiting for a diagnosis or whatever. And one of my other doctors said, it's not, you know, and it's not. Carol, it's when it's when it happens to people. Mm. 'cause we don't take care of ourselves. It's really, really important. And raw food was so easy. Like everybody thinks it's so difficult. It's the easiest thing I ever did. Try not eating. That was difficult. I, I learned [00:09:00] more about this because I Dr. Taz: am absolutely fascinated with this. But before we go there, you know, for young women listening to our show today, what were the three biggest mistakes that you made prior to 36 when it came to trying to lose weight? Assuming something was healthy, you know, or just even your own self-care. What were some of the biggest like pitfalls and mistakes that you made when you look back? I think there's one big mistake, and Carol Alt: that big mistake for me was I didn't educate myself. Dr. Taz: Mm. I Carol Alt: listened to people. I watched the fads. I, I, I jumped and tried everything instead of just sitting down and educating myself on the pathology of food, how it works in your body, how your body works, what builds muscle, what retains fat. Education is the most important thing. And it's funny, it's the one thing we don't get taught in school Dr. Taz: at all. No, we Carol Alt: don't Dr. Taz: at all. All right, let's get into this raw food. So when I hear raw food, and I don't know what you guys sitting at home are listening or watching or thinking, but when I hear raw food, I'm thinking a lot of salads, a lot of [00:10:00] vegetables. Educate me, what is the raw food movement? What is the raw food diet? How is it personalized? How does it retain muscle? How does it help burn fat? All the things you just brought, oh my Carol Alt: God, I do hour long lectures on this. We're do it in like 20 minutes. Dr. Taz: Let's go. No. So no, just, you know, those are some of my questions. I have a million, but let start wherever you feel comfortable. Uh, well, Carol Alt: you know, I lecture on this, so it's kind of, uh, there's, there's. Four things that happen to food when you cook it, you know, cooking food is a, is a chemical reaction. It's like putting a piece of wood in your fireplace and you light it on fire. It starts out as wood, and then through chemical reaction of heat, it becomes ash. Mm-hmm. And, and that's, that's all the mole molecules changing. So one, your molecules, the molecules in the food change so your body doesn't read it the same, the, uh, bonds between vitamins and minerals break. So your body. Doesn't absorb the same, does it? Uh, do you remember when, uh, they, they now, well now they add, uh, [00:11:00] calcium and vitamin D and uh, magnesium, they mix it together to make your calcium right, because it doesn't absorb without vitamin D and magnesium, right? They didn't know that. So they were just giving calcium to women and nobody was getting a result. And then they went, oh, calcium is not recognized in the body without vitamin D and magnesium. Right? It's that way with. Every vitamin, every mineral in your body, they're all intertwined and heat breaks those bonds. So the body goes, Hey, what's this? Basically, um, your food becomes, it goes from an alkaline. So let's take something like a tomato, which is a one alkaline, which is almost acid, but it's, it's just slightly alkaline, but you cook it, it becomes a 10 double crystalline slic acid. Mm. That's why we get such heartburn when we have Right, right. Spaghetti with. Tomato sauce, you know? And then, um, the enzymes are killed. Yeah. And really what that means, enzymes are like. Uh, so it's like going to the bank every day and not [00:12:00] putting anything in, but taking money out. Mm-hmm. So if you're putting food into your body every day that's cooked, it has no enzymes. The, the molecular structure is all discombobulated. The vitamin, uh, the vitamin mineral bonds are broken and it's really hard to absorb. That means you're putting food into your body that your body has to make its own vitamins and minerals pulling. Right. Pulling from everywhere, right. To make that enzyme, to digest this basically bankrupt food. And if you keep doing that, it's like going to the bank every single day, taking money out and never putting money in. Wow. At one point or another, depending on how much reserve you have, you're gonna go bankrupt, and that's basically the bottom line of raw food. I don't eat 100% raw food. I don't. Nobody can be a hundred percent of anything. Right. Then if they tell you they're a hundred percent, they're the only thing, they're is a hundred percent lying. Exactly. Right. You know, I, I know what I binge on. Yeah. Hockey games, you know. Yeah. Wait, what do you binge on? Popcorn. Popcorn at hockey games. [00:13:00] You're a popcorn girl too? I'm a popcorn girl at hockey games too. Yeah. Anyhow, but I take an enzyme before I do it, so I don't draw my own enzymes out. Oh, okay. You know, when you understand. You know what the body is and what food does in the body. You can learn to counteract some of those things that, that you do. You know? So it's really important to educate yourself. And so what is raw food? Well, it's just about everything. I mean, anything that you eat cooked, I can find you raw, including tiramisu. I know, I know. Look, look at your face. Wait a minute. I'm sitting here Dr. Taz: going, is Amisu not raw? Carol Alt: So Jeremy Sue is not raw when you get it. It's made of Lady Fingers, which is like a vanilla wafer cookie and it's made with pasteurized, uh, I don't know, um, all kinds of creams and what have you. I can find it for you completely raw. And in fact, when I first brought it to my mother's house, my, I was like, oh, don't bring your raw stuff, please. You know? Yeah. Raw. Like everything has really come up [00:14:00] in right, in right. How it tastes and the presentation of it, right through the 30 or 40 years that I've been doing this. Right. So I found this, you know, amazing little place. It's in New York City called Rawsome Treats, and the girl was an MMA fighter. Oh my. Got my book. Wow. Okay. Got my book. Her name is Watts. And as she got my book and Watts, you know, when I first called, they said, she goes, okay, gimme your name. I said, Carol. She goes, no. Wait, you're not Carol Alt for eating in the raw. She's like, stop playing a prank on me right now. She's like, oh my gosh. It was your book and you know, I was trying to suck weight. Right. You helped me so much. Right. But the food was terrible. So I, you know, and I make a lot of my own stuff. Right. Every morning, my own fabulous muffins. So, okay, Dr. Taz: so define this out. Okay. What makes your muffin raw? What makes your tiramisu raw? What is a raw protein source? Like, maybe like, well, everything Carol Alt: is practically protein, I mean, okay. Legumes, like the lentils or chickpeas or kidney beans when they're not cooked, when they're not soft, when they're hard like marbles. Mm-hmm. That's in its raw state. Mm-hmm. You [00:15:00] drop it in water, you let it soak for 12 hours, it's just about sprouting. The little tail comes out. Mm-hmm. Yep. That's sprouting. That's germinating. It's really simple. It's drop it in water and walk away. That is all protein heavy. Protein heavy. When you cook it, it goes the other way. It becomes carbo heavy. Mm. So basically people are thinking they're eating legumes. For protein. Right. They're not, unless they've germinated them, you know? But also a lot of vegetables, broccoli, all these vegetables in the raw state are pretty much protein heavy. They have a lot of protein in them, so, but I also eat fish. I'm not vegan. Dr. Taz: Right. Carol Alt: Because my ancestry is German man. Right. So that's what goes on in a lot of people's brain. Yeah. Dr. Taz: Right. You're raw, you're vegan. That's not true. Carol Alt: No. Okay. You can be vegan, you can be raw, you could be gluten-free. Mm-hmm. You could be any version of any which way you can, uh, you know, be, you know, fish person. Have friends who are fruitarians, they only eat fruit. Mm-hmm. I had one who was a Breatharian. Don't even go there. [00:16:00] You don't even wanna go there. Oh my God. You don't wanna go there? What? He drinks. Okay. Breatharian. Yeah. Okay. And it ain't white. Okay. No, I mean, you know, there's, there's, I I, I call myself an extreme alternative, but Right. I'm not that extreme. Right. But, you know, it's, there's, there's so many versions of what you can do, and there are many raw foodies who are also vegan. I am not. Okay. My, my ancestry is, uh. Is, um, Scottish and French and German, and we are all meat eaters. So I tend to eat meat or not meat, more fish, you know, three times a week. But you eat raw fish. Raw fish. And so how do you prep? So carpaccio car. Okay. Or seared salmon. I drop it into my salads. I, you know, um. Uh, tar Tars. I love Tar Tars. Yeah, love tars. Yes. And you could do tartar with all kinds of things. You could do it with beef and you could do it with fish. Don't try it with chicken. Yeah. Oh, I, I avoid chicken as too much hormones for [00:17:00] me, but Yeah. Dr. Taz: Yeah. Carol Alt: So, yeah, I mean, there's so many things you can do, but there's also amazing desserts. I make my muffins. They've got four ingredients. What, what are they? They're raw almond flour, which I can make. Mm-hmm. Or I can order online. It has figs. Mm-hmm. It has, uh. Uh, lemon with a little, sometime a little vanilla. Mm-hmm. And, uh, raw chocolate chips, you just mix it together? I mix it together and throw it in the dehydrator. Walk away, come back five or six hours later, sometimes longer. Sometimes I like 'em really moist. It depends on what my guests like too. Some people like really crunchy stuff and dry stuff, and other people like really moist. So it just depends on how long I leave it in a dehydrator. Dr. Taz: Do you eat like the meats, like beef or lamb or any of those guys or No? I Carol Alt: occasionally eat beef. Okay. But carpaccio or, but again, a car style tar. Right. Okay. Gotcha. Tartar car or carpaccio? I mostly, I like fish. I was never really, never really liked beef and I don't like the way we treat our animals. It's really hard for [00:18:00] me. Right. I, you know, I, I work with the Washington Heights Cat Sanctuary. We rescue animals. Ah, I support them. So it's really, it, it really is hard. And, and, you know, it's hard being in the fashion industry because there's fur on everything. Right. You know? Right. Yeah. I, I. You know, we can't avoid it completely, but I, I really advocate more humane treatment for sure. Dr. Taz: So I'm gonna flip this on you for just a second. Sure. So, uh, many systems of medicine I. Including conventional western medicine. Ayurveda is one. Chinese medicine is another one that I can think of very quickly. Talk about the burden of raw food on the gut. Mm-hmm. That the gut, you know, has trouble with this. Mm-hmm. What you're saying is, you know, very different from that. Explain that disconnect for me a little bit. Okay. Carol Alt: Well. I understand as people get older, like we talked about before, right? They're the accumulation of everything they've done to their body. So if you're constantly eating cooked food and it's constantly drawing out of your reserves, your, your hydrochloric acid and your enzymes in your stomach are going to get [00:19:00] weaker and weaker. So I can understand as people get older, they don't advocate eating a lot of raw food because it's harder to digest. Dr. Taz: Hmm. Carol Alt: In my case, what I did, because I had terrible digestion, I started with a a lot of green powder and jus and juicing because juicing is the fastest way I know. To Renu Nutrition, the body. Yes. And I'm not talking about apple juice, right. And pear juice. Right. I'm talking about the heavy duty greens, kelp and, and you know. Not just cucumber alone. I don't get that. I mean, you can't, you can't change the entire body, body with one vegetable. Right. You need a wide variety of everything. Put the peppers in there. I have a, a seventh heaven soup that a friend of mine gave me the uh, recipe for. It's in one of my books. Mm-hmm. It is so delicious. And it's, you know, basically. All it is, is you throw all these things, you know, all these vegetables into a blender and blend it, and it's so good and it's so good for you. When people come [00:20:00] to me and they say, oh, I have this kind of issue, or that kind of issue, I say, listen, you know, first of all, I, I don't advocate talking against your doctors, right? But to supplement whatever it is else that you are doing. If you've got any kind of inflammatory issue, I'm talking about cancer or, or, um, autoimmune disease. Autoimmune disease, you know, well more like arthritis or, you know, all of these, you know, it. Aging. Right. I consider aging a disease. Mm-hmm. It's, it's the body breaking down and if we can rebuild and give the body what it needs, the body is so freaking brilliant. It's amazing. I mean, the universe, it's amazing. Yeah. Knows what it's doing. God, if you will, he knows what he's doing and you give the body what it needs and you can rebuild yourself, and it just depends on how dedicated you are. For me, I was super duper dedicated. Yeah. But first because I fell. And I had to dig myself out of a hole, right? But also because I was competing against those [00:21:00] sucky little 20 year olds who were stealing jobs from me. Dr. Taz: I Carol Alt: was like, wait a minute. Dr. Taz: You're showing them Carol Alt: I was. You're still showing them. I didn't wanna ask Dr. Taz: you how old you are, but you Carol Alt: look incredible. I'm 64. Dr. Taz: You could Google it. Oh my God. The only time I ever lied Carol Alt: about my age by two years, when I walked away from the table, the guy turned to my manager and said, should I tell her I know that she's 34? Oh my God. I'm like, so. I love it. Never again lie about your age. Love it. And now not in the age of Google. I remember the first time somebody said, oh, we Googled you. I was like, I'm on Google. Dr. Taz: I know. Carol Alt: That's so exciting. It was like, you think I, I'm Google. Well, okay, so 36, you go Dr. Taz: wrong. You're trying to like get all these 20 year olds outta your way. What is the first few things that you noticed? Oh my Carol Alt: gosh. Listen, you wanna, you wanna get the best comeuppance of your whole entire life? Yes. Go raw for like three months and walk into your mom's house. Best thing that ever happened to me, my mom looked at me and she said, what have you [00:22:00] done? And she didn't say Carol, she said, Carol Ann. So I thought, but you know, is serious. What did I do? The double names come out in serious. I know Carol Ann. And I said, I said, what do you mean? She goes, you were starting to look mortal. I was like, wow. My mom thought I like was immortal and I was starting to look mortal. And now she thinks I look immortal again. This is kind of pretty cool. Oh wow. So probably glowing. Well, your skin comes back. Yeah. Your energy comes back. That look in your eye. Yeah. You know what I mean, light. Yeah. Yeah. I realized I was walking down the street and people are laughing, you know, smiling at me and I'm like, do I have like broccoli on my face? Like why are these people like looking at me and smiling? And I realized, 'cause I was like an idiot walking down the street with a smile on my face. Yeah, because you feel so good. You feel good. Yeah. You have so much energy and you. You know, for me it was about paying it forward. My mom went raw the minute she saw me. She said, okay, tell me what you did. And, uh, I told her, my boyfriend at the time, Alexa Chen, he was, he [00:23:00] was, uh, 13 years younger than I was. Um, I was 38, he was 25. And one day he came to me, he said, okay. He said, I Googled how old you are. Yeah, I know. Googled how old you are and I'm out. No, no. He said, and I look at you and I look at other women and I'm, and I watch how you eat and can you explain this to me? Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm. Carol Alt: And I explained it to him and he boom, like, like over he, you know, but. He's that kind of Russian discipline. Right, right, right. Which I'm that kind of German discipline kind of thing. And, and you know, he, I got, I was shooting a series in Toronto. I got on an airplane with one day off and went over to help him because he called me and said, oh my gosh, I lost like 20 pounds. I, I'm, I'm dying. I'm like, why? What did you do? What'd you do? He said, well, you told me if I did this. And I was like, oh my gosh. He went raw and not really like filling his house or educating himself. Right, right. So I went over there and I showed him, I'm like, look, I could sear you a steak. Yeah. Like, you know, you can get [00:24:00] lots of fruit and vegetables. And that was back in the day when there was nothing raw on the market. Right. Right. Now there's lots, I mean, they're, they're trying to hit every market, right. So they're gonna lots of raw stuff because Dr. Taz: everyone is so interested. Yeah. But to your point though, okay. Someone listening to us talk today is like, I'm gonna try this. I want, I wanna go raw, you know? How do they begin? Like what are the pitfalls? First thing, get rid of all the Carol Alt: garbage in your house. Garbage being Dr. Taz: like the processed stuff or, yeah. Get, Carol Alt: get rid of all those habit forming things that you have, like the crackers and the chips and the things like that. Popcorn. Yep. Get don't if you don't have it around when you go through that moment. See, I find when I fall into those moments, it's because I didn't nutrition myself well enough. Dr. Taz: So true. Carol Alt: So I didn't eat enough vegetables, I didn't eat enough meat. I, or. You know what? You can eat a raw tier mi, so from rawsome treats for example, and that could be your dinner and it's more nutritious for you. What's in that is more nutritious for you than, you know, having a spaghetti plate of spaghetti or you know, a [00:25:00] ham dinner. I mean it just because. That stuff's all cooked, right? And there's nothing in it. It's devoid. It's taking out of your body instead of putting in, and here's this little cake with nuts and figs and coconut and all these amazing things that is feeding your body, and by the way, feeding your skin, hair, and nails, right? Because the body works on a hierarchy. Okay? So the first thing it does when it gets any little morsel of food that it could use. It has to rebuild. It has to rebuild your muscle and your organs and the ligaments that hold things. I mean, it goes for the really important things. The most important thing it goes for is making enzymes to digest more food, hoping to get something outta this food to rebuild your body. You know, if you don't give yourself enough of all of these things by the time it comes to doing his skin and hair and nails. It's done. You're outta, you're outta luck. So interesting. You run outta gas as they say. It's Dr. Taz: fascinating 'cause you know, I stare at this, you know, lab work all the time. And the thing I keep coming back to, even in our [00:26:00] children, by the way, not just adults, is the lack of digestive enzymes. I talk about it over and over again. So many people are fat spilling, protein spilling, they're not breaking foods down. And then in the children, what it's looking like is a lot of the sensory stuff we're seeing, the lack of focus and all this, you know, anxiety, all these other things. And adults we're seeing the bloating, the weight, well, it's a lack of nutrition Carol Alt: because the body's not able to, to absorb, use all these things crack, you know, and rebuild itself. And it's Dr. Taz: so interesting and Carol Alt: you know, if, if you understand this. Yeah, outside of a lab. Okay. If you understand this in terms of the body, then you understand that when you take in fats that have been cooked, the body goes, oh, look at this. I have a truckload size of something. Yeah, it kind of looks like a fat. Well, let me pull all these enzymes and minerals and everything from my body and digest this. Oh wait. Now that it's digested, it kind of looks like fat. If I put these together over here. I got a Volkswagen size of fat. Let me make some more enzymes to [00:27:00] digest that so I can utilize it. What do you do with the rest of those pieces from that giant truck that are not useful? Because they're all broken up and the body can't figure out what to do with it. They store it in the adipose tissue, so now you're out post tissue is. Absorbing this fat. And on men it's the belly on women. It's the button of thighs. Yep. Right. You know that fat thigh feeling? Oh yeah. Oh yes. That's where it comes from Dr. Taz: my story anyhow. Carol Alt: Right. But you, you know it with what people don't understand about cold pressed oils and fats. That's so fascinating. And you know this as a clinician, right? Right. Is that it can, it can do a preferential exchange. So if you're eating good fats, it can do a preferential exchange of old fats outta the adipose tissue. Fascinating and slim you down. Mm-hmm. So all these thoughts that we have about fat being fattening. Not so true. Not so Dr. Taz: true. Carol Alt: And Ti Erasmus wrote, uh, Udo Erasmus wrote the best book on this. And he does, you know, Udo's Choice Oil, which is one of my [00:28:00] oils of choice. Right. And I love those oils. Those are great oils. Yeah. And his daughter, uss, is a very good friend of mine. Oh really? I'm godmother to her son. Amazing. Yeah. I mean, I know a good thing when I find him. I got right into that family. I was like right there. Smart woman. Obviously I know where my oils are boiled. Dr. Taz: Yeah. Carol Alt: Yeah. Dr. Taz: Well, okay, so you're starting out, you said get rid of the processed stuff first and all the junky stuff. Yeah. Next, where would you go next? Carol Alt: What I would do is, um, I would get all kinds of vegetables and a juicer. Okay. So that I make sure I get my juices fresh, not pasteurized. Mm-hmm. It's completely different when it's pasteurized, you know, 212 degrees Fahrenheit at 12 hours, kills any enzymes as well as any bacteria. And then I would, I would. Test stuff. And if you've got children, take your children with you, test all these raw things, test the raw pickles as opposed to the cooked pickles. Mm. You know, um, make things o on my Instagram at Model carol Alt. Love it. I did. I I'll follow now. Yes. [00:29:00] Model Carol. Um, I did, during COI did, you know, 200 recipes. Wow. And. You know, it's, it's so great to get your kids involved instead of saying, Hey, you have to eat this to raw. Say what tastes good to you, right? What do you like? Do you like corn? Let's try some corn. Let's make this radish outta corn or relish. So I relish outta corn? Mm-hmm. Oh, do you like guacamole, by the way, do you know you can take an avocado, add some zit, raw chocolate. And by the way, I don't get paid for any of these advertisements here. This outta the good is my heart. I'm giving you this info, then you all order it and I can't get it right then. I can't get it when I need it. Right? But ZT does a, you know, regular chocolate and a raw chocolate powder uhhuh. Put that into your avocado with a little bit of honey and you got the most outrageous mousse. Yu just don't tell anybody what it is until after they eat it, because in their breeding they go, oh, avocado. Right? And I know, 'cause I was one of those people, [00:30:00] oh my gosh. I was like, I can't think of avocado as anything but guacamole. So when Dr. Taz: you're juicing these vegetables, you. Like you're running it through a juicer. You're not retaining the pulp or anything like that? Nope. Because Carol Alt: you're talking about these AVEs and all these other disciplines, right, who probably could be right that we are having trouble digesting stuff. So you don't want the pulp, you want the nutrition. If you want Dr. Taz: it to go straight to the cell, you Carol Alt: want the nutrition, which is why you don't want do it with with fruit juices because it's too much sugar, too fast for the body, and then you get an insulin reaction. But, um. No, the, you want the vegetables and you want, you want to juice. I juiced for three months. Every day, three times a day. Kamikaze these little mm-hmm. You know, greens Plus and Garden of Eden has them, I think even El McPherson has one. Ellie owe me one, um, has, has these green powders. Right. And I was kamika and three times a day. And then finally my doctor came to me and said, okay, you know, you're ready to. You're ready for a seven day fast and I almost like, I fought and screamed and spit at him [00:31:00] and kicked and he pulled his hair and Dr. Taz: he was over. He was nutrient optimizing you. Yep. Then the fast. The fast. Why did he want you to fast? Carol Alt: Because he wanted to start cutting toxins outta my body. That's, I thought, you know, day five of a fast. Now, first of all, you never should go into a fast straight, straight. I say that all the time. Yes. You always have to wind down. Off of food. Um, I did a lot of cilium and green powders for five, for seven days. By day five, you are cutting into the liver. I mean, you speak to anybody on day five of, and they're really nasty. Mm-hmm. You know, and you're like, oh, day five, huh. You know, it is, you know, that's the way the body works. And I remember driving up and down Santa Monica Boulevard and they had a Boston chicken. And I was like, I just need to smell the chicken, and I just, I need chicken. I'm like, oh. I was like a junkie. I was like, and I called up Dr. Brantley and I said, I said Timothy, like, what is this? Like I just want chicken. I just like anything with like, I'll just lick my fingers. Right. I just need chicken. And he said. [00:32:00] No day five because you're cutting into the toxins in your body. And when you're, when you're blocked to get that stuff out, it spins around in your blood system and it goes to your brain and it triggers a memory. That's where these cravings, when you're, when you're fasting, stressed or fasted, they, that's where they come from. Mm. And when your liver, which is really the only sewer system. It's really the only way to get the garbage, the laundromat, outro mat. Dr. Taz: I call it the laundromat of the Carol Alt: body, the called the sewer. It's the only way to get the, the sewer might be stronger, but Well, but it is, I mean, what comes out, everything that goes into the sewer Yeah. Pretty much starts here. Yeah. So, you know, you wanna keep that as clean as possible, so. It doesn't kick the toxins back out into your blood and spin it around and give you a craving for all that nasty, horrible stuff. I Dr. Taz: love the idea of vegetable juicing. You know, if someone wants to do this in an intermediate way, could they start to take their meats and to take some of their stuff instead of start [00:33:00] searing things? I was gonna say, instead of like full out grilling, just sear it. Or Dr. Ta, Carol Alt: you're right, because I, I go, I go for more like I get, people can eat. A fish and they'll understand that, you know, a seared fish is raw inside. Right? They'll get that. What they don't get is all the other stuff, like, how do I get my dessert right? How do I get, you know, I'm sitting down at tv, I want something to na on. Right. You know, I get raw nuts. I. Uh, like I said, I did, wait, Dr. Taz: wait, wait. What's a RAWA versus a regular nut? Oh, well, you know, when they roast them, you know, Carol Alt: when they roast them, ah, well nuts is all nut oils, right? So if you're roasting them, you're cooking oils. Now you gotta digest it. Now you gotta make the enzymes now. You know what I mean? The whole Dr. Taz: thing again. Right. Carol Alt: Okay. So, you know, just. Decide, I, I get a whole mixture of nuts. I drop raisins and cranberries in it, and I mix it all up. Sometimes I put, uh, uh, dark chocolate chips in it. Mm-hmm. And you make a trail mix. I mean, it's so easy. Sounds so easy. Yeah. You put it in a bowl and you can eat that while you're watching television or if you have friends over, you could do [00:34:00] a whole cru of tea with all kinds of, I, I did like in one of my books, I think I had like 15 or 20 different. Sauces for dipping, and I mean, it's, it's out there. The information is out there. It's there. It's so much easier than when I started. When I started there was zero. I had to make everything from scratch. Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm. So bodybuilders are raw mo models can be raw. Who should not be raw? Carol Alt: Anybody who is more, um, alkaline and you know, I always said my boyfriend, he was, uh, pretty like dododo, you know, you know those people? Oh yeah. They're like, okay, we'll get there when we get there. Yeah. I mean, I wish I had a little of that. I wish I had that too. Yeah, I don't that, but you know, if they're alkaline people, um, then, you know, you don't need as much raw, but it's always good to have. Raw. Dr. Taz: Do you test your acidity and alkalinity? Oh, I Carol Alt: did. Yeah. I used to do it all the time. Now I How did you test it? Now I can feel it. You can feel it, but you know, you get pH papers. Yeah. [00:35:00] And they sell them online now. Yeah. I mean, I used to have to seek out a pharmacy that would have them and not mind selling them to me. And you know, you take between eight and 10 in the morning, two and four in the afternoon, eight and 10 at night, your saliva and your pee. Not around food, not around brushing your teeth, not around water. You take them clean and you write 'em down. And track 'em and, and you can track them. So, um, you really wanna be optimal is supposed to be between, uh, six eight and seven two. I was a five five. Ooh. I was so proud. I was like, look at this. I am blue. And Dr. Tim was like, that is not good. That's not great. Like, what do you mean it's so pretty? No, no, that's not great. You wanna be yellow. And that yellow took me 25 years to do. 30 years to do. Wow. And only recently did my doctor say to me, you know, okay, you need to eat a little more cook because you swung from way acid to way alkaline. And I could feel it because when you're, when you're really alkaline, you get kind of a little [00:36:00] apathetic, you know, a little depressed, you know, versus acidic versus us. Dr. Taz: Yeah. Carol Alt: To. Crazy women running around the city trying to do podcasts and everything in the Dr. Taz: world. I love Carol Alt: it. And clinicians and all that. Actresses, you know, all those. All those crazy. All those crazy A type per personalities. Dr. Taz: Yeah. Well, I wanna bring you back, I took you back to three six, but I wanna bring you back to now and how you noticed right around 60 and sixties, a really important age. By the way, I don't know if you saw the study that said there are two big transitional ages. 44 is one, and then 60 is the other one. So at 60 you started noticing changes. You had already been raw. What did you have to dial back into? Carol Alt: Um, it wasn't that it, what, what it really was is I noticed. Most of my girlfriends complaining about it. Mm. So I had girlfriends call me up saying, oh my gosh, I hit 60 and where'd my energy go at 20? I didn't mind running downtown and filing this brief, but now it's like I'm 60, I don't wanna be doing this. You know, for me, um, my priorities changed a lot. [00:37:00] I became way more spiritual. I became less. I don't know, um, aggressive with stuff. I, I wanna do things with people who are happy and fun and enjoying what they're doing. I don't wanna waste my time with nasty, angry people anymore, right? I mean, I spent my whole life around those kind of people. I, I just don't wanna do it anymore. But I did notice, uh, a little on my skin. So I went, okay, what? Rebuild skin. Oils. So I upped my oils. Um, you know, the doctor said, don't do any more raw, because I was already swinging that way. So I just keep nutrition. Dr. Taz: So you do, what type of oils do you like to use? Carol Alt: I love the Uros choice. Right. And, uh, I hand carry my cold pressed olive oils back from Italy. Dr. Taz: You do? Mm-hmm. It's different. Mm-hmm. Carol Alt: They're so diff. Why is it different? First of all, I don't think the Italians are stupid enough to give us their first cold pressed. I think they just, it is so different. I go there. It's completely different. You, well, I think airplane, you know, pressure [00:38:00] changes things, but um, also. I think that a, a lot of companies, and you gotta be very careful, what I do is I take my olive oil if I have to buy it here, if I've run out, um, I usually like brags, they, they're usually pretty good, except they have it in a clear bottle. It should always be in a green bottle to block the sun. Mm-hmm. But I throw it in the refrigerator. Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm. Carol Alt: And if after three or four days it doesn't get slush, you know, like it doesn't solidify, not frozen, but that then, um, whatever oils rise to the top. Is the junk oil that they're cutting it with. So you always have to be careful with your olive oil and just don't open it. Throw it in the refrigerator and make sure that it all slushes. Oh, that's a great hack. Yeah. So Dr. Taz: put it in the refrigerator. Mm-hmm. Keep it there for a few days. Yeah. And whatever comes to the top. Carol Alt: Yeah. If, if, if anything it shouldn't have anything, nothing should happen. Olive oil should not be left in the refrigerator. I mean, you could freeze it. Right. Right. And hold onto it. Right. But it, it's not an oil that needs to be refrigerated. You could leave it on your counter. Right. As you know. Dr. Taz: Right. Carol Alt: Udo's [00:39:00] choice. Has to be in the refrigerator and it doesn't slush. Mm. So if you, if they're cutting your olive oil with any kind of other oils, any seed oils or nut oils, they don't slush. Mm. So they'll rise to the top and then you know that your olive oils has been cut with seeds or nuts. Dr. Taz: Gotcha. So olive oil, your favorite oil. Love it. What about I put it on my skin Love oil. I put Carol Alt: it, I mean, I. Yeah, I do my liver cleanses with it. What, Dr. Taz: what's your take on like the saturated oils or the medium chain oils like coconut oil or ghee or beef tallow is trending right now. What's your, what's your take on all Carol Alt: that stuff? Um, like I said, the closer you can eat to God. Yeah, that's, that's really what I look at. And I do like unrefined. Coconut oil. I used to drink an amazing drink that's in my first book, eating In the Raw with the Green Powders. And um, I Dr. Taz: think I read that book. I did Carol Alt: like everybody in the world read that book. Yeah. I'm so grateful because it was, [00:40:00] you know, not me. What Dr. Taz: year was that? It Carol Alt: was, uh, 2005. Dr. Taz: Yeah, I read that book. Yeah. I loved it. Carol Alt: I mean, I, I owed a big one for saving my life. Mm-hmm. So, um, you know, we, we, it was this amazing drink with, with, uh, young Coconut and, I mean, it was just so good. Yeah. And then one day I just couldn't drink it anymore. Mm-hmm. I just saturated to the point where I was good and moved on, you know, and your body will tell you Right. When all of a sudden you go like, I can't even look at that green drink that I had four of yesterday. You know, I can't even look at it. So the oils Dr. Taz: are a beauty hack. Carol Alt: What, Dr. Taz: what else? Carol Alt: Water going, Dr. Taz: raw oils, water. Carol Alt: I use, the only other way I could think of somebody, you know, with any kind of, um, inflammatory issues, uh, is, you know, I always say Essentia because it's a 9.5. Mm-hmm. I have my own system where I make my own alkaline water. Wait, how Dr. Taz: do you do that? Um, you know, it's, we need to be in the kitchen for this. Yeah. Why are we, why are we in a studio? We'd be in a kitchen like mixing things. I know. I. Carol Alt: It's a [00:41:00] machine. So we got, you know, I filter my water and it's under the sink so I don't have to carry bottles of water. You don't have to do all that. Okay. No. I call my girlfriends, I'm like, listen, for two grand, you don't ever have carry a bottle of water again. You know, you can just make your own water. Yeah. But if, if you're going to do it, if you're going to, you know, if you can't do that and you can't afford that. 'cause I understand what kind of, you know, right. I, I, I get what the sign of the times are. Um, Essentia water is, is a 9.5. And that's alkaline. Okay. So you know, like we talked before, four or 5.5, right? Or under 7.0 is more of the acidic and 7.0 and up to 8.0 is more of the alkaline. So this is like a 9.5. So when Dr. Taz: people are grabbing bottles of water, you know, off the grocery store shelf or. Getting water at a restaurant. What's wrong with that water? Carol Alt: Well, usually it's in a plastic bottle. I always like to go for glass bottles. Yeah. Which is usually why I carry my own. Yeah. I didn't carry it here. I see We got plastic bottles, but I [00:42:00] know you know you gotta live to, right, right, right. The things that I'm talking about are not things that you have to, like, I can't have water because it's Dr. Taz: Right. Carol Alt: It's what you do most of the time. That gives the body its benefit or its detriment. Mm. It's what you do most of the time. So these are the things I aim for most of the time, and sometimes I'm a real jerk about it Dr. Taz: life. You're on the bus, you're off the bus sometimes, right? Right. I get into the Carol Alt: restaurant, my girlfriend's like, okay, do you have your olive oil and your salt with you? I'm like, of course I do. Dr. Taz: So you bring that to the restaurant? I do carry a bag. Anyway. Wait, what are you doing with it? What are you doing with olive oil? What are you doing? I know Carol Alt: no matter what restaurant I go to with my olive oil and salt, I can eat. Something. Yeah, I can have a salad Dr. Taz: and you put it on top. Gotcha. Will you eat the bread of the restaurant? No. Carol Alt: Do you make bread? And I'm a bread eater. Is Dr. Taz: there raw bread? Carol Alt: There's, um, sprouted bread. Okay. Yeah. Sprouted raw bread. Um, man of bread used to be raw. Ezekiel [00:43:00] bread used to be raw. Now I call it like a bridge food. So it's got great ingredients, but in order to keep up with its popularity, they started cooking it instead of dehydrating it. But I make. I mean, I make my own crackers, my own breads. I mean, it's everything you could dehydrator is the most amazing thing. It's amazing. Yeah. You can make anything. And my muffins, I mean, breakfast and dinner, you do all of that. Yeah. My friends are like, let's go out to dinner. I'm like, I have do my muffin first. Oh my gosh. You know, and that's another trick. You know, I, I eat a muffin before I go out to dinner, so I make sure I don't overeat because they're so nutritiously dense that it fills you up. Dr. Taz: So what I'm hearing from you, which is so fascinating to me as somebody who has to look at. Patients and labs and conditions and all this other stuff, right? Is that it's really about optimizing your nutrition and optimizing it using raw foods because they have, you know, probably ounce per ounce, more nutrition than something cooked. And then bringing back in that fundamental. Principle [00:44:00] of gut health where we're destroying our enzymes by eating so much cooked food. That's really, that's it in a nutshell. That's really the, why didn't you say Carol Alt: at the top of the show we didn't have to sit here for so long. Interesting. It's so interesting. Alright, we gotta do here. Here's one more thing. Okay. Go. Because you talked about people not being able to digest stuff. There's plenty, plenty of digestive enzymes and I still take them. What's your favorite? Um, you know, I get one from Claire Labs. Mm-hmm. KLAR. We have those in our practice labs. Yeah. I love those. Yeah. Um, but I also do like, you know, so many enzymes. So many enzymes. I had health issues, so I'm on a huge enzyme and supplement and, you know, I get my hair tested mm-hmm. To make sure that I'm mm-hmm. With the right supplements. I, I'm not crazy over daily, you know, one a, one a day daily vitamins, because you don't, I don't know how much Dr. Taz: of that people are absorbing. That's part of it. Like, you might Carol Alt: need vitamin D and I don't, but it's in the pill, so I'm paying for it, but I'm not utilizing it, you know? Right. Um, so that's why I pr But if you're not doing anything, it's better than nothing. Correct. Yeah. And, [00:45:00] you know, but top of the line for me is the, the, you know, good water, um, doing your, your juices, good oils, good juices. You know, make your, you know, sear everything. Or if you can have tar tars or cappaccio, I mean, don't knock it until you tried it because everybody would go, ah, raw fish, and, but it's so delicious and there's so many ways you can, mm-hmm. You could cure it. Dr. Taz: Yeah. Carol Alt: Get Glocks instead of smoked salmon, and they taste exactly the same. Dr. Taz: So fascinating. Open Carol Alt: your brain, open your mind, open. Expand the universe. Well, it's kind of Dr. Taz: going back to the way we used to eat. Right? Closer. You eat to God closer. We eat to God. You did bring something up and I, and I had in my head, sorry, I keep, no, I, no, this is. That's fascinating to me. So you mentioned your ancestry and how they were meat eaters. How much of that do you think is playing into how people should eat? It doesn't sound like you did formal testing, like the blood type diet or this or that, or any of those type things. No, well, Carol Alt: Pricewaterhouse did, did a lot of that footwork for me. So, you know, he, he traveled around the world and he found that when the [00:46:00] Eskimos ate. Their fermented fish that they had left in the ice for months and came back and ate it. They were totally healthy. No cancer, no inflammatory disease, nothing. Because that's what they were used to eating. That's what their bodies were used to digesting and it was perfect. But the minute that we introduced our, you know, carbo heavy diet, right, with heavy grains and whatnot that were cooked and you know, basically homogenized. And, and he, they, they got very sick and then he traveled down to the rainforest where people were, you know, a mile from a river and didn't even know the river was there. 'cause the Amazon jungle was so thick and they were digging up tubular plants and they could only eat plants. They couldn't have the fish. Mm-hmm. And that was fermented. They couldn't have, they ate all vegetables. And the minute you introduced fish or grains to them, they became, they got sick. Yeah. Sick. Yeah. And so he traveled around the world looking at the different places and how they ate and the effect of modernization on all of these indigenous peoples and on all these [00:47:00] different countries and all these different eth ethnicities. Mm-hmm. And he found that the closer you can eat to your ancestor. Now the problem with that is that in like the 1950s and. I would say more like the 1950s we started moving. We, we, we became less of a farming community. Right. Where you drank the milk right from the cow and you made your own cheese and your own cream and, and you, we moved to the cities. So we had to cook all these things to kill the enzymes so they would last on the shelf of a supermarket until we bought it. Right. So our food chain. So when people say to me, eh, but in the Bible they ate Brett. Well, yeah. Hello. They didn't still go through a dust bowl, right? So that they made, you know, a supersede that didn't, you know, die in the in dust or with. With, you know, insects. Uh, yes. You have to look at what happened between the Bible and now to our food. And we pasteurize and we, we [00:48:00] hybrid and we genetically modify and we do all these things. That's why we're sick to our food. And I keep saying, the closer you eat to God. That doesn't mean hybrided or genetically modified, and it's, it's getting harder and harder. I absolutely admit that, but I have a better edge than most of my compatriots because I am aiming for that nutrition every day. I'm not aiming to go like, oh, let's have, you know, with like, you know, cigarettes and alcohol because I feel like it. Right? And, you know, I wanna live my life. I'm, I'm like. I wanna live a healthy life. Dr. Taz: How do we, you know, I call this show Whole Plus 'cause I'm passionate about holistic medicine, but I talk about the merging of science and spirit. Mm-hmm. How do we tap into that spirituality in terms of, you know, using it to choose what we put in our mouth. Carol Alt: I always, it's always so [00:49:00] crazy to me that when I slow down the monkey mind enough stops. Dr. Taz: Yeah. Carol Alt: You, you usually end up aiming differently. Does that make sense? Totally. Like I know what's right for me, but sometimes you're tired or you're hungry or, and, and you aim for the wrong stuff because you're listening to your mind, your stomach, and you're not thinking. Mm-hmm. So you have to slow down enough to think. What's right? Mm. And that's what you aim for. I mean, spirituality was something that came to me. The more clean I got. So, and I'm not talking religion. So many Dr. Taz: people say that though. I've heard that many times before. Yeah. Because you Carol Alt: know, when, when so much is going on with the body, it's like you get too many mixed signals. I think. I mean, you know, [00:50:00] this is all my own personal opinion. Mm-hmm. But hey, I look damn good for 90, so I figure that these things really work, you know? Yeah, Dr. Taz: absolutely. Carol Alt: I want everybody to look this good at 90. Dr. Taz: Well, speaking of looking good, we've talked about water and oils and vegetable juicing and digestive enzymes and digestive enzymes, so that's a lot. Everyone can run with that and then you can look like this, so I wish it was that simple. But you know, all joking aside, what are your favorite beauty treatments? Beauty products that you can't live without. You don't have to give us the whole thing, but you do look amazing. No. Yeah. Water and oil. Water and oil. Is there anything else? No, that's pretty much it. Water and oil, guys. You heard it from her. Yeah. I mean, Carol Alt: yeah. Dr. Taz: I mean it is beauty from the inside out, right? At the end of the day, I think that how we take care of ourselves. You know, how we feel about ourselves, how we live our lives, all of that. But you gotta remember one thing of that, anything Carol Alt: you put on your skin gets absorbed into the skin. Absolute. So you, you wanna read it? You know, I, I have other products I [00:51:00] use, right? I'm very careful about reading ingredients. Dr. Taz: Ingredients. So watching the toxic load and things like that. Mm-hmm. Oh Carol Alt: yeah. What's next for you? Well, I mean, I'm, I don't know. I guess I'm still doing the same old, same old, you know, I'm, I have two movies that I'm, I start one at the end of May and I have another one. Amazing. Tentatively slated for September. So no slowing down. Um, I hope not. That's why I, that's we wrote by energy. What about books or any other books for you? You know, I wrote five books, uh, on health and nutrition. Two were, um, you know, I fiction, but I think I said all I need to say. Yeah. But at the end of the day, I, I'm just trying to pay it forward. That's why I accepted your invitation here. I'm just trying to pay it forward because I had some really amazing people who helped me in my time of desperation and need, and, and don't, don't let me, you know, don't let anybody fool you. Dr. Taz: Yeah. Carol Alt: Everybody has those dark days. Yeah, it does. It's not absolutely easy down here for anybody. Dr. Taz: What would you [00:52:00] say to young people today? What's one piece of advice? Maybe young girls, maybe people in the modeling industry. We've had others. You're not a , don't Carol Alt: follow the pack. Dr. Taz: Ooh, like that. I like that Carol Alt: a lot. Yeah. Don't follow the pack. Everybody runs for quick fixes. There's no quick fix. You wanna look good in your olden days. You know, I thought it'd be really great to have an app. Mm-hmm. That tells you what you would look like if you were, you know, here you are at 15 if you drink. Dr. Taz: Oh my God, you smoke. You could do that. I would hand that out. If you eat Carol Alt: healthy, that would motivate everybody. Well, because you know, I always wonder, like I, you see some of these people and you go like, wow, if their 15-year-old self could look at them now, right? You're try to be so cool in high school and then you allow this to happen. Dr. Taz: I hope everybody hears that. Carol Alt: I think that, I think that is so important. I think that's, that's a lot of hubris on my part, I think. But, um, you know, you just, you, I, I just want. Everybody to feel good and everybody to [00:53:00] be happy. 'cause it would make for a much happier world and I'd be much happier walking out my front door. So it's a really selfish, selfish motivation at the end of it. At the end of the day. I love it. You know, and they'll treat their animals better, which is really my motivation. Dr. Taz: Oh, I love that. Well, I'm gonna leave you with one final question. Carol Alt: Okay. Dr. Taz: What makes you whole? Carol Alt: Oh my gosh. So many things make me whole. Um. I have a great teaching Bible. Can't start my day without reading it. It's just fantastic. It really puts things in perspective. Um, and, and it sends me a, like a, a reminder thing to start the day, you know, like, here's today's thought. Love that. My animals. Mm. How many do you have? I have two. Two little rescue cats. One with one eye who, you know, you gotta look at something like that and say like, she just is the sweet and it took me a really long time, but she like, how they bounce back is just incredible. Mm-hmm. Great food. Good friends. But the top of the list is, is I think, you know my, I have. I've [00:54:00] been blessed with a really great family. I have two fabulous sisters. My mom, forget it, 93 years old, still working in the lobby. She hates when I say that song, but she still works in the library. I mean, it's only great to that she's working in the library. 'cause you know, she's 93, she's still working. She bought herself her Mercedes on her 90th birthday. Dr. Taz: Oh, I love it. I mean, that's. Carol Alt: My inspiration. I Dr. Taz: love it. Well, you're an inspiration to so many of us, so thank you for being here today. Well, that's, I appreciate it. A compliment coming from you. Thank you. I so appreciate it, and I hope for everybody watching and listening that you've been inspired and motivated. We have woven together so many themes. I Carol Alt: know. You have to watch a Dr. Taz: show again. You really do. It's mom Carroll. I'm just kidding. I love her. I love her, but just kidding. The science of food, the spirituality of food, how they come together. So much you guys have to watch this stuff. It comes together in you. Yes. And you are unique, comes to know you, you, you have to know you. So thank you again. Thank you so much for listening to this episode of Whole Plus, be sure to share this episode [00:55:00] with your friends and family. 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