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AFJ Explain Age Group Semifinals Fiasco, Ask John Anything & Wodland Fest "Preview" · The Spin Podcast

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  Welcome to the Spin Man. Lots going on, but we have
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  special guests today. We have Edward Blanche and Jules
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  Swarovski from the Association of Fitness Judges.
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  First of all, thank you guys for jumping on this evening.
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  Thanks for having us. Welcome to the Greatest Show in
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  CrossFit at 7:30 on a Wednesday. Exactly the best.
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  Show on. Wednesday night.
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  Nothing but good things. Depends on where you live.
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  I mean, look, map lady. Oh, I heard.
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  I heard Abby. It's OK, John.
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  We're OK, We're OK. OK, look, map lady, my favorite
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  part of the week. Take us to the weekend.
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  We can only do maybe an hour and a half or two hours for you, but
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  hopefully that's enough to get you to the weekend.
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  Yeah. But we, I wanted to invite
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  Edward and Jules on because if you've been following the age
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  group semifinals, you know, there was the CrossFit put out a
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  notice or an announcement was two weeks ago during the video
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  review process that there were some judges who had expired L1
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  or higher credentials. One of those people was Brian
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  Clapp who was the director or is the director of the associate,
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  the AFJ, he was at Mayhem. And so that process is run its
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  course. All of the scores are I guess
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  back in. I'll find out if you guys know
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  how that tell it's all shaken out and love to hear kind of
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  what happened with the AFJ from that same way.
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  And it and to be clear, like it wasn't just the AFJ like there
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  are other individuals that were impacted by this by not having
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  their credentials. But obviously you guys are at
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  the forefront and in the spotlight of of judging.
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  And then obviously when this happens, you're the first ones
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  to kind of be, you know, spotted out.
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  So yeah, either of you like maybe share background of what
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  that process looked like when you found out and kind of what
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  the what the happened after that?
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  Yeah, sure thing. So we were contracted in by
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  CrossFit Mayhem a few weeks out from the age group qualifier.
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  They had this great plan of inviting all their masters
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  athletes to Mayhem itself while the Classic was going on.
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  They asked us if we could provide some judges for that.
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  We were the exclusive judges for the Mayhem Classic.
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  So we ran all the judges, the the standards, the disputes, the
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  flow of all the work, everything for that.
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  So we already had a team in place.
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  We pulled in another team for that and we got everyone's
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  qualifications to come through. We asked for everyone's
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  information and we had it off to to Brian.
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  So he ran the online masters qualifier and it was on I
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  believe Thursday. Sorry.
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  Tuesday morning we got a message from one of our contacts across
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  it saying, hey, I'm trying to find this guy's certifications.
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  Like I can't see him. I see when you log on to his
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  profile it comes up with an L2, but they can't find the actual
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  certificate. Is this is this before Mayhem or
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  after this was? Tuesday after.
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  Yeah, this was the Tuesday after.
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  So the competition's already done.
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  Score submission has closed. We're already back home wherever
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  we are. And I got this message from
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  crossword saying, hey, we're trying to find his his L2
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  certificate. It says on his profile he's got
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  it. So we go, yeah, no problem,
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  sure, we've got it somewhere. So a message finally later that
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  day get an e-mail back from him and we've realized that it's
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  this expired. And our immediate concern is the
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  athletes that Mayhem have because this could potentially
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  ruin their entire season. But these guys have trained for
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  the entire year ready for this one chance they get to qualify
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  to the next next level. So we go straight into how do we
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  try and fix this? How do we try and make sure
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  these athletes get to show their fitness level and not be
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  punished or penalized for a potential admin issue from our
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  end? So message back before with
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  Brian and some other people and Brian immediately books in for
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  the online level 1. So he literally takes it the
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  next day finishes the entire course of sending me screenshots
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  of hey, I've done this section, I've done this section, I'll
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  have it done by this time tonight.
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  Then he takes the the webinar you have to do to finish
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  everything up and he finishes that all I think believe the
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  Friday night. So this is the just right as the
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  public video review process is closed.
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  So he gets all of that done and passes everything before the
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  close of the public video review.
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  While this is going on, we're in regular communication with Josh
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  and Jacob Mayhem, talking them through what the likely
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  situations are going to be, how we're handling it, talking to
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  CrossFit, we're we're working out how we can again, show the
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  athletes fitness and make sure the right people get through
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  some next level qualification. So while we're having these
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  conversations with Mayhem, with CrossFit, we're getting Brian
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  always certified. We're redouble checking all the
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  other judges we had there, double checking, triple checking
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  everyone's qualifications so that L1's minimum, their 2025
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  judges course, their advanced judges course and everything
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  checks are great. So it was the the one judge, but
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  unfortunately it was a lot of athletes.
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  And it's easy to see in retrospect how Brian missed that
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  and how we all missed that. So we checked everybody else's
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  certifications ahead of time. And then Brian being the
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  director of competitions, that's kind of his area.
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  He sent over copies of certificates.
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  But when he logs into his dashboard, it says on there it
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  has the L2 badge moniker. So he never, he legitimately did
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  not realize he was not in current status with his L2.
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  It was news to him, shocked to him, So he never would have put
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  himself in that position or the AFJ in that position had he had
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  any inkling. And I'm pretty confident in
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  that. A lot of other people fell into
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  the same boats. And that's what Crossword was
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  starting to realize was the loophole in just the dashboard
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  system of how it updates correctly.
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  How long do you know how long his credentials had been
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  expired? Not off the top of my head, no.
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  So you're saying if you go into like his dashboard of whatever,
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  you know, like his profile, Yeah.
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  Yeah. So.
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  When the L2 is that. So I don't think it will have
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  that now because he has since taken his L1.
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  It's probably reset. I don't know for sure.
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  I know, like when I log into crossfit.com's website and I
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  look at my athlete profile, it has my L3 badge and everything
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  else. When we asked him to check, he
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  just looked at that and said, oh, it still says L2, so I guess
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  I'm good. And then later on he actually
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  checked his certificate for when he took his L2 and when it
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  expired. Well, yeah, He didn't even
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  realize it. Like when he sent over a copy to
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  us, we said, hey, this is expired.
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  He's like, no, it's not. I never got any notifications or
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  anything like that. He must have just missed that
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  entirely. He didn't even realize like this
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  was brand new news to him entirely.
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  In this one occasion, like his exact situation, I mean, like
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  that kind of sucks because you know, like you can see the
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  dates, but on the, the global scale, I mean, like, I have no
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  idea when my L1 runs up. And if my profile on HQ's
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  website says that I have my L1, I'm like, I guess I'm good to go
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  because like, I don't know where my certificate is.
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  I'm not going to, I'm not going to go look for it.
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  And that's exactly what happened to him.
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  And it's, it's a very easy oversight to have and it because
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  it's just a, a software issue from that end in hindsight, like
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  moving forward to the, the teams coming up this weekend.
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  And for the elite individuals moving forward, we are working
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  with a few training camps and individual athletes.
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  And we are literally printing off everyone's certificate with
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  the dates. So everyone has their correct
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  name spelling on there, as it will be when it goes into the
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  main site, as well as any IDs we need and the certificate.
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  So all the athletes we work with are going to be 100% sure that
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  all of our certifications are in in line.
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  Yeah, well, I mean, I'm also emailing them to all of the
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  training camps and athletes we're working with directly
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  ahead of time. Like I have everybody's.
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  I literally just got the last batch of judges that we're
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  sending out into the field next week, so I'm going to e-mail
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  them all at the beginning of next week so the training camps
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  and coaches all have them. Do you do you how how many of
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  athletes were affected? Do you know like at least
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  through do you know in total or do you know at at mayhem at
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  least? I know the athletes with Mayhem.
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  So what we did once we found out that CrossFit was, you know,
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  they were, they really did want to work with within the issue
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  and let the right athletes get to the games.
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  They didn't want just an administrative error to end
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  somebody's season. So once we knew the athletes of
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  who was affected and how CrossFit wanted to handle it and
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  that they wanted to do a deep dive internal review.
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  We made a list of all the Mayhem athletes that were were in
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  qualification spots prior to the issue.
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  And we did an internal review of all of their videos to kind of
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  see if there was going to be anything that got flagged
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  independently. And I mayhem know any issues
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  that I saw potential penalties that might come out and there
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  was next to nothing. There's one guy that his
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  handstand walk video, you couldn't quite see his line
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  actually that he did get a penalty.
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  Beyond that, every single one of the other athletes, all their
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  scores were reinstated and everything was fine.
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  God. Do you know how many?
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  How many was that? It was.
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  Hold on, bear with me. I have a spreadsheet, of course,
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  so there was 20 athletes that were at Mayhem, but the ones
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  that were inside the cut line I want to say I want.
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  Someone like 8 I think and it ended up being 5 or 6 that
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  actually qualify for the next level.
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  It was eight, yeah, 8 athletes so.
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  What about globally? Globally that would be not sure
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  I. Think we have a yeah, Google
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  seat on all of that? Yeah.
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  I'm sure Tyler will check that out any day now.
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  Did you have any Like what is? What is the AF JS relationship
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  with CrossFit? Very good.
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  We started having some regular communications with HQ probably
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  the end of last year. And since then, we've maintained
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  a great line of communication, sort of discussing future of
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  judging, potential ways to work together in the future.
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  They're interested in the seminar, the judging seminar
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  that we've created. We ran for the first time the
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  day before Water Palooza in Miami.
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  Tierra water Palooza. Yes, exactly.
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  Tia water palooza. Yes.
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  Don't forget Tia. Yeah, should know better.
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  Yeah, Tia Water Palooza and we've got more coming throughout
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  the year. We've been having regular
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  communication with them. They we briefly got read in on
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  the rough idea of how the the season was going to go when we
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  gave some thoughts and feedback on some potential issues and
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  then also some feedback on the advanced changes course, which
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  is brand new for this year and. Then when this came up, were you
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  in communication with them or is it more just like, hey, here's
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  what's happening and they they kind of did their thing and
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  you're just kind of waiting to find out what happens or did you
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  have any other? Dialogue.
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  So they let us know that there was an issue and then we
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  messaged them saying, OK, here's what the steps we're going to
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  take to correct that. And then they did check in with
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  us a couple of times to see what page we were on with telling the
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  athletes in the training camps and things.
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  And we told them Mayhem is essentially our client for this.
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  So we've been in communication with them and said like this is
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  how we would like to handle it. But at the end of the day,
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  Mayhem as the client, they said we would like to handle it this
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  way. So we're following their lead on
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  that one. Got it.
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  And so do you have you have? How many judges does the AFJ
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  have? Latest update on the directors,
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  we're about 270. OK.
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  And that's across the entire. World.
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  Do they, do you have AFJ judges? Like it sounds like we hear a
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  lot of more of the AFJ going to like Mayhem training think tank.
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  I think they may have gone to HWPO last year for
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  quarterfinals. Like, do you have them going out
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  to like other like internationally or is it more
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  kind of an American thing? Yeah.
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  So I'd say of the 270 judges in the directory, maybe about half
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  are probably internationally based.
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  Last year we had a couple athletes internationally that we
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  sent judges out to, a couple in the UK, I believe one in France
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  and one in Australia. OK.
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  We also work with a few competitions in in Europe and in
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  the Middle East we've had consultations with as well, so.
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  Got it. Is, is it?
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  I don't follow this stuff near as much as Brian does, so I
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  apologize if I'm if it this is a stupid question.
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  Is it? Is it just this is it?
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  Is it, is it simple enough as just getting an e-mail that your
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  L2 is almost expired? What?
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  Do you mean? Like you're they didn't know
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  that they were expired, correct? Yes.
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  Could is it as simple as just getting an e-mail from CrossFit
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  that your L2 is expired? I'm not really sure what you're
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  asking. You asking how did?
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  You get an e-mail before you. Didn't know your L2 was expired
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  a week before it expired. Hey, your L2 is about to expire.
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  Yes, I believe you get an e-mail out six months out, three months
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  out and one month out. But again, I'm not sure there
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  are multiple ways this could have happened.
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  That could have been a change of e-mail addresses.
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  That could have been, it could have been a while ago live
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  events happened, it could have been any number of things.
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  And I do know that they're supposed to send you the emails.
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  I remember getting it when I got my L1 up for renewal.
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  I now have my L2. My L2 is up in February.
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  And I've already been thinking for the last six months like,
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  what am I doing? Am I getting my L3, etcetera,
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  etcetera. I'll be honest, I haven't seen
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  an e-mail telling me that mine's up for renewal.
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  Doesn't mean it's not somewhere in the depths of my spam folder
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  though. That's true, yeah.
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  OK, But then like I would ask if if you get an e-mail a month, a
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  month ahead of time and I I, I get I agree, I agree with you
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  guys. It says L2 up there like, oh,
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  I'm still good, right? I get, I, I get it's an easy
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  mistake. Not trying to like come down on
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  y'all or anything about it. But if you get an e-mail saying
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  that it's expired a month ahead of time, is it not on you to not
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  get it fixed? I feel like CrossFit did their
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  job then if they, if they are, I don't know.
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  If they are, I don't, I don't know anything.
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  That's why I'm, I'm asking for clarity.
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  I think if you get an e-mail a month ahead of time, it's kind
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  of it's, it's on that person to get it renewed, right or.
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  No it. Is I agree, it was just it was
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  an oversight and we did our best to try and fix it in the
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  situation once it became problem.
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  I mean, this is the first year that they've had the L1 or above
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  be a credential and Brian legitimately thought he was
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  good. There's there's no other sugar
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  coating it or other excuses. He really genuinely thought he
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  was good. We are taking steps to make sure
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  that never happens again in those proactive steps of we are
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  physically printing out the certificates, we are emailing
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  them to the training directors. This will not get missed again
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  if this is if these credentials stay moving forward as the
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  requirement. Go ahead.
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  Brian yeah, One of the things that I've I've had several
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  people message me. I think one person was pretty
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  vocal. I think maybe Hillary may have
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  even shared it was there was an an athlete we talked, maybe we
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  talked about last week Tyler, the guy didn't have.
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  Michael. An advanced judges course and so
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  like CrossFit didn't allow that to get reviewed like.
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  But did review all these others. Did review everything else.
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  So like they kind of differentiated between the two
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  of if you expired credentials, it's this process review if you
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  don't have the advanced judges course.
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  Yeah, I believe didn't Dave Cashier mentioned that is we can
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  review I think something like that.
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  They said if you already had a previous qualification, they
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  would potentially review the video.
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  But if you didn't have any one of those other new ones where
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  you never got your old one, I don't think they were.
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  But again, I'm I'm trying to remember what I saw on on
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  Castro's week in review. Got it.
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  The teams like there were three. Now it requires 3 judges, a head
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  judge, and two floor judges for three of the workouts.
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  Does that throw a wrinkle in like planning purposes for you
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  guys? If you are going back out to
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  Mayhem or training Think Tank or anywhere else, maybe.
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  Are you going to Brute too? Maybe.
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  Yeah. So we're not doing teams.
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  We only, we had one location we were trying to get someone to,
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  but they only asked about a week out and all the to get bodies on
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  the floor. It was going to be too expensive
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  for them. But we've been in communication
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  with the training camps that are doing team events and yeah, it
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  is 3 people and it is a challenge, but they're going to
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  make it work and I have another choice I guess.
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  How are you going to do with deal with that with the
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  individuals? I I can't imagine you need 3
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  just because it's one person, but.
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  So with Indies is a little easier when we send judges out
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  our plan and what we've told the training camps is that our
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  priority is to actually judge the athlete because that's
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  they're trying to empower the judge on site to make the call.
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  So the priority is having somebody there that has the
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  train die that's going to make that quick, no Rep call or a
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  warning shot of hey, make sure you stand up all the way,
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  whatever that is. And the head judge is more
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  overseeing this, make sure everything looks generally
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  right. So in the case where let's say
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  it Mayhem 4 athletes want to go at the time and we have 4 judges
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  there. Our priority is to judge the
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  athletes and have somebody like Jake Lockhart or somebody else
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  there that is fully credentialed be the head judge role and
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  that's the same kind of method we're going to use it all the
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  other training camps and individual athletes got.
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  It Go ahead, Tyler. Mine's a little tangential, so
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  go ahead. Are you doing any like obviously
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  you were there at Mayhem, are you doing any of the other
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  working with any of the other in person qualifying events from
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  that type of judging standpoint? From an official capacity, no,
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  but we will be there as just, you know, regular judges
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  enjoying the judging experience as we always do.
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  And anything with World Fitness Project.
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  Have you done any, have any discussions with them?
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  Are you working the first tour event or anything?
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  So we've had some calls with Will Morat when it was first
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  announced and he was very interested in what we're doing.
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  I believe one of the part owners or board members already has
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  approved relationship with some of our AFJ judges and they're
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  going to be taking the lead for the initial part of that.
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  But we will What do? You mean by that they're working
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  with somebody in your group and then like a subset is going, but
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  it's not officially AFJ? So we represent, like Joe said,
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  about 270 judges around the world and they are individual
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  judges. They're happy to go into any
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  competitions they want to. We are simply an advocate for
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  them and we try and work with competitions to help those
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  judges when they go these competitions.
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  So there are judgments from around the world that are doing
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  their own competitions. Some of them are organizing
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  their own competitions, some are just judging at their local
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  affiliate level. When it comes to our fitness
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  project, Jules and I are going there to judge.
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  We're going to be in the lane next to our other AFJ members,
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  making calls, hanging out with them, enjoying the the sport
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  that we love. Got it, Tyler.
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  I was wondering about last year. I know that like particularly
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  TTT, just because I know some of those folks you had the, you had
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  the debacle last year where there was a lot of AFJ judges in
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  place and then HQ came over top and reviewed the videos again
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  and then and then deducted what should have already been passed
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  through good judges. Well, did you all have a
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  relationship with HQ at that time?
• 22:44
  No, not really. Not outside.
• 22:47
  Because we thought they were coming after y'all.
• 22:50
  It did. It did say it felt like it.
• 22:53
  It felt like it. It's very easy to see.
• 22:57
  We were surprised at the level of intensity they were reviewing
• 23:03
  some of them, but again, this is one of those learning
• 23:06
  experiences that has manifested this year, Crossword said.
• 23:09
  They're trying to really reinforce the judge who is at
• 23:14
  that affiliates level to make the good calls because when it
• 23:18
  comes to like a live competition, the lane judge is
• 23:23
  the person making that decision, the head judge that makes sure
• 23:26
  that nothing untoward is going on.
• 23:28
  You don't get to sit on the sidelines and then overrule that
• 23:32
  judge. So what CrossFit are trying to
• 23:33
  do from what we gather is re establish that judge who is
• 23:38
  there now gets to have the final say.
• 23:41
  The video of you will be more like let's make sure the correct
• 23:45
  number of reps were done. It looks kind of right.
• 23:48
  No one's trying to cheat and give that ability back to the
• 23:53
  judge of the affiliate. Did you?
• 23:55
  When did? When did that relationship start
• 23:57
  to occur? Was it after that event or or or
• 24:01
  much months down the line? Or is it more recent?
• 24:05
  So we. Hi please.
• 24:07
  No, no. OK, so when the AFJ before it
• 24:12
  even began, we wrote this white paper on This was back in 2021
• 24:17
  in the. Beginning, as they say.
• 24:20
  In the beginning, yeah. This was before the AFJ was
• 24:23
  anything. We were finishing up judging at
• 24:26
  Syndicate, Crown and Mac back in Knoxville, and there was a lot
• 24:30
  of negativity in the in the online space about judges make
• 24:34
  baking bad calls and who are these people and everything
• 24:36
  else. And it needs to be a more
• 24:37
  professional system. And no one was doing anything
• 24:40
  about it. So we wrote this initial white
• 24:42
  paper laying out kind of a general overview of what the
• 24:45
  future of judging in the sport CrossFit could be.
• 24:49
  And we got a lot of input from commentators, stakeholders,
• 24:53
  training camps, athletes and we sensed a CrossFit HQ and they
• 24:57
  were very interested in what we wrote.
• 25:00
  In fact, some of the the, the points we made in that were
• 25:04
  incorporated into following years.
• 25:07
  I would say the relationship we're currently having with
• 25:10
  CrossFit is new. It is probably December to
• 25:15
  January this year. We've started to have far more
• 25:18
  involved communications on again, how do we push this sport
• 25:24
  forward? Like how do we make this more
• 25:26
  community driven and how do we we we push the sport?
• 25:29
  That's really what it comes down to.
• 25:32
  Is, is it, I mean, where do you guys see yourself the
• 25:35
  relationship forming into? What are your hopes of the
• 25:37
  relationship forming into that? That you're 100% resource for
• 25:41
  for HQ at any sort of need like that?
• 25:45
  Yeah. I mean, that would be fantastic
• 25:46
  if if CrossFit felt comfortable enough and confident enough in
• 25:52
  us to run the judges for the teams at the CrossFit Games or
• 25:55
  even the individuals eventually. Certainly the last couple of
• 26:00
  years CrossFit have brought in individual judges who are not
• 26:03
  seminar staff to work the individuals at the Games.
• 26:07
  I was part of the the trial run at that with the last year at
• 26:10
  Madison. And we've have a lot of AFJ
• 26:12
  members who have done that the last couple of years.
• 26:17
  In the in the short term, we're working with them on our seminar
• 26:20
  and hopefully potentially having that as maybe a approved course
• 26:25
  so that people can get CE us. But again, this is all sort of
• 26:29
  potentially long term goals we'd love to have. 11 last question
• 26:35
  on my end, sorry spin is you said you, you are an advocate
• 26:39
  for the the AFJ judge or the judges within the AFJ.
• 26:45
  I guess I'm wondering what the definition.
• 26:46
  What do you mean by advocate? So I'm not sure if this is
• 26:50
  public knowledge, but we don't get paid.
• 26:53
  We pay our own way with flights, with gas, with hotels, with
• 26:59
  food, and let's say we take a competition like Tierwater
• 27:03
  Pelusa that runs from Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
• 27:06
  More than likely you're flying out on a Wednesday night and
• 27:12
  you're flying back Monday morning.
• 27:14
  So that's a lot of days you're missing from work, away from
• 27:18
  your family. If you can get paid time off,
• 27:21
  you're also paying for your flights.
• 27:23
  Some of the judges that do these competitions are flying from all
• 27:26
  over the world. We have judges from Australia,
• 27:29
  from Europe, Africa, South America that comes to these
• 27:33
  competitions and they're paying their own way, they're paying
• 27:37
  for their own hotels and it's not cheap.
• 27:40
  That's, that's that's crazy to me, yeah.
• 27:43
  I mean, go ahead, go. Ahead So one of the big things
• 27:47
  we're pushing for and was one of the caveats to really working
• 27:50
  with us for any of the competitions is 1 accommodation.
• 27:55
  The competition is paying for the accommodation of the judges
• 28:00
  to get them there, to put them up so they're not sleeping on a
• 28:02
  friend's sofa or bunking for to a room.
• 28:06
  Just give them a hotel or an Airbnb to live in so they're not
• 28:10
  coming out of pocket for that and some sort of travel stipend.
• 28:13
  It doesn't have to be. We're not expecting first class
• 28:16
  flights from from London to Sydney to judge the Tory and
• 28:20
  we're asking for a couple 100 bucks that we're not coming out
• 28:24
  of our pocket to pay for these things.
• 28:26
  So that's one of the big things that we're trying to advocate
• 28:28
  for is getting the right judges to the best places and have them
• 28:33
  not spend their own money to try and get there.
• 28:37
  And I think that's why you see the turnover within the judging
• 28:39
  community over the years is that they kind of get burnt out.
• 28:42
  People get really excited to give back to the community.
• 28:44
  Like I know for myself and for Ed, like we get that adrenaline
• 28:48
  rush like you do competing. I am not a very good athlete.
• 28:51
  So like my next best place is judging.
• 28:53
  That's how I got into it and that's how a lot of the judges
• 28:55
  have gotten into it. And it is a very expensive hobby
• 28:57
  to do, but you want to give back to the community, you want to be
• 29:00
  a part of it, You want to uphold the standard.
• 29:02
  Fairness is like probably one of my top values.
• 29:04
  So it fits very much in line with my my thought process.
• 29:08
  But ultimately, there's only so much you can do when you're
• 29:11
  paying your way all the time. Like I don't actually take real
• 29:14
  vacations. We turned the Rogue Invitational
• 29:16
  Scotland trip into a two week vacation because well, paying
• 29:19
  all this money to go over here, I'm going to turn that into a
• 29:21
  vacation. But most of these judges, that
• 29:24
  is all of their time off for the year and they do it because they
• 29:26
  love it and they love the community.
• 29:28
  Like the judging group. If you kind of see, if you kind
• 29:31
  of sit back and watch, it's a lot of the same people at a lot
• 29:33
  of the events and we've become like an extended family, so.
• 29:37
  And I think it's AI think it's a, a thankless job that I don't
• 29:41
  think the, I don't think a lot of people understand.
• 29:44
  I, I think I like, I mean, I, I look at judging kind of like, I
• 29:48
  look at like umpires, like nobody cares about them.
• 29:51
  Nobody talks about them when everything is good, when they're
• 29:54
  doing great, you know, like you could have 19 competitions,
• 29:58
  everything is flawless. You did amazing.
• 30:00
  You messed up 1. Yeah, yeah, that one judge at
• 30:04
  Rogue on the duel and you, dude. That middle judge at Rogue will
• 30:07
  forever be heralded but but truly like you, then you like
• 30:13
  you have one thing that goes bad.
• 30:15
  Everybody talks about it and that's all anybody wants to talk
• 30:18
  about. I don't think people, I don't
• 30:22
  think people understand. I would, I, I don't, I don't
• 30:27
  know if sacrifice is the right word, but like the passion that
• 30:31
  I think a lot of people who judge, you know, like this is
• 30:35
  what they do have and I, I admire it.
• 30:39
  I, I wonder, I wonder, do you think you guys could, I don't
• 30:43
  know if this is possible or not, but have like a rating system
• 30:46
  for the judges that are in your stable.
• 30:50
  So like this person is 97% accurate and the no reps they
• 30:55
  call are, you know, 98%. These ones are egregious.
• 30:59
  And like you can just have a rating system.
• 31:01
  I don't know how easy that is use.
• 31:03
  That word. What'd you say?
• 31:05
  Too soon. Don't use that word.
• 31:06
  Egregious. I.
• 31:10
  Don't know where that came from, but like, like they do with
• 31:14
  umpires, you know what I mean? I think that'd be cool.
• 31:16
  And then the judges that get elected to the games have the
• 31:20
  best accuracy ratings. Yeah.
• 31:22
  So there's actually two parts that we are actually working on.
• 31:26
  So what was originally laid out in that white paper and we've
• 31:29
  since kind of built out a bit more is a tiered judging system.
• 31:34
  So you'll get different levels of judges depending on your
• 31:37
  experience and feedback from other judges.
• 31:42
  So that eventually there, there might be like say 3 or 4
• 31:46
  different levels of judges that have shown competence, ability,
• 31:52
  consistency in calls to re guarantee a consistent events.
• 31:59
  The other parts that is with our our seminar that we run.
• 32:04
  So the seminar is a one day seminar and then the judges who
• 32:08
  do the seminar are evaluated over the next competition.
• 32:12
  So if we take Tierwater Palooza as the example, we ran the one
• 32:17
  day seminar on Wednesday. We had great support from the
• 32:21
  PFAA supplying some athletes for us to use as a demo team.
• 32:25
  So the judges can see athletes moving at speed at high
• 32:29
  intensity. But then over the Thursday,
• 32:32
  Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, we had a team of two judges
• 32:36
  evaluating all of the other judges who were at Tierwater
• 32:39
  Palooza who were at the seminar. And then about a week later,
• 32:43
  they got an e-mail with here's what you did.
• 32:45
  Well, here's what you need to work on and did you pass or
• 32:50
  fail? And if you passed, you've been
• 32:52
  tagged with certified AFJ judge in our directory.
• 32:57
  So when we do a search and we need excellent judges, we're
• 33:00
  going to be able to find those excellent judges.
• 33:04
  When we did the dive on the data of how many people passed and
• 33:08
  how many failed, I think it was 65 percent, 65% passed.
• 33:15
  So not everyone is passing this like it is.
• 33:18
  It's supposed to be tough and it's supposed to be something
• 33:20
  that makes you think and see, here's what I need to work on,
• 33:24
  here's what I need to improve on.
• 33:26
  And they're getting that individual feedback as opposed
• 33:29
  to what happens at most competitions, which is a pat on
• 33:32
  the back. Great job.
• 33:33
  See you next time. I had the did anybody ever take
• 33:37
  it? And you're like, hey, this,
• 33:38
  you're not cut out for this, but you need to try something else.
• 33:42
  Like like they have like a they have like a, a 7%.
• 33:45
  They are just like, hey, hey, hey brother, you're really rough
• 33:48
  in the. Past.
• 33:50
  You You must have judged Kale in his workout.
• 33:52
  That's how bad you are. HWPO athlete Kale Layman.
• 33:56
  Yeah, that guy. Well, let's move on.
• 33:58
  Go, go ahead. And the past, there hasn't been
• 34:00
  a system to give proper feedback.
• 34:02
  And that's what the judges as a community said that they wanted
• 34:04
  more of. And we asked them like, hey, how
• 34:06
  can we help you guys as an organization?
• 34:08
  They said, give more feedback. Well, it's an uncomfortable
• 34:11
  conversation to say maybe this isn't kind of for you athlete
• 34:14
  control, but we've created the forum to kind of do that.
• 34:18
  And with some of the, you know, some of the people we work with
• 34:21
  through the times, it's like you're just, you're not going to
• 34:23
  get this. This is not the space for you,
• 34:26
  but the problem that we run across is that, as we kind of
• 34:29
  alluded to before, these are a group of people that are very
• 34:31
  passionate about what they do and they want to do a good job.
• 34:33
  They just didn't have a format to hear like how can I get
• 34:36
  better, what did I screw up, etcetera.
• 34:38
  So the seminar is definitely going to help teach them and
• 34:41
  make them more aware of what they didn't know they were not
• 34:44
  doing. Hey, this is what you do with
• 34:47
  the with the guy who gets the 7% on his test you hey buddy, we've
• 34:51
  got the most important judges job of all time.
• 34:55
  You see that gate right over there No athletes should get
• 34:57
  past that gate. If they do, you'll fail your
• 35:00
  judges course. I have AI have a judging
• 35:03
  question actually so. I thought you asked your last
• 35:06
  question. No, no, no.
• 35:08
  This is the last one. This is.
• 35:10
  Hey, John, this is right. A good game.
• 35:12
  So say you're judging an athlete, all right, and maybe
• 35:17
  there's a workout with like bar muscle UPS in it and the athlete
• 35:20
  goes and they sit down for an extended portion of time.
• 35:23
  What is the judge's responsibility in that in that
• 35:26
  circumstance? Was was the athlete in the frame
• 35:32
  the entire time when he was sitting down?
• 35:35
  He was. He was all.
• 35:37
  Right. I think it's hypothetical.
• 35:38
  What what do you guys what do? Yeah, hypothetically, what I
• 35:40
  think it's this doesn't. Sound very hypothetical if I'm
• 35:43
  doing. Yeah, it's, it's completely.
• 35:44
  I just made this up. Our time's like 30 seconds
• 35:48
  apart, Tyler. I didn't look like OK now.
• 35:55
  We see one last question. I when I do go to your website
• 35:58
  and look at The Who we are, it does show Brian Clapp is no
• 36:04
  longer on there. You do have a couple new board
• 36:06
  positions. Can you?
• 36:07
  Is Brian still a part of the AFJ or what happened with?
• 36:12
  That yeah. So Brian has resigned his
• 36:16
  position as director of competitions, the AFJ.
• 36:19
  He wants, he wants to make sure he got everything taken care of,
• 36:22
  the athletes were looked after and then he he resigned with the
• 36:28
  other board position. So as a non profit, we are
• 36:31
  limited to a term of four years in our respective roles.
• 36:37
  When we set up the AFJ, it was very clear that we couldn't all
• 36:41
  be in the same position for all four years.
• 36:44
  And then we all leave at the same time because that's going
• 36:46
  to cause a lot of issues with continuity and keeping the
• 36:49
  community involved and everything else.
• 36:53
  Two of the other board members who like to resign have life
• 36:57
  changes like with we don't get paid for any of this with the FJ
• 37:01
  is currently funded out of whatever money is in our bank
• 37:03
  account right now on any T-shirts we can sell.
• 37:06
  So it's not paid, it is purely volunteer and their life's
• 37:11
  changed. They need to take a step away
• 37:14
  given the growth that we've experienced over the last year.
• 37:18
  We've also got a lot more things happening and it's requiring
• 37:21
  more and more hours to do so in line with all of our bylaws.
• 37:25
  We messaged everybody in our direction, said, hey, we have
• 37:29
  these positions becoming available.
• 37:31
  If you would like to nominate someone or nominate yourself for
• 37:35
  one of the roles, please send in your application.
• 37:39
  We'll review them. We're doing interviews right now
• 37:42
  with all the different people who have applied for the
• 37:46
  different roles. Then I'll go to the board to
• 37:50
  decide on who would like the best fit, and then we'll start
• 37:53
  filling those positions and expanding.
• 37:57
  Got it. OK, great.
• 37:59
  Edward, Jules, thank you for taking time out of your out of
• 38:03
  this evening and kind of explain the situation and letting us
• 38:06
  know a little bit more about the AFJ.
• 38:08
  So thank you very much. Thank you.
• 38:10
  Thank. You for the opportunity.
• 38:11
  Thank you very much for having us all.
• 38:13
  Right. Thank you.
• 38:14
  Have a. Good one, guys.
• 38:15
  Bye. There you go, the AFJ.
• 38:23
  Hold on, I'm going to see if I can make this happen.
• 38:26
  There, there we go. That that thumbs up was so quick
• 38:31
  on him, wasn't it? Like he.
• 38:33
  Was like, so wait, I don't know why like different animations,
• 38:39
  like it didn't like I the piece. The piece gives me balloons
• 38:43
  every single time. I guess it's it's crazy.
• 38:45
  It didn't right there because I remember you guys tried to do it
• 38:50
  and you couldn't make it happen. And I have mine turned off.
• 38:53
  So I. Don't have a?
• 38:54
  Mac, that must be so that. Must be.
• 38:56
  Working. That's why Tyler's computer
• 38:57
  doesn't work half the time. That was good stuff. 1986 Dale
• 39:03
  right here, John. That'd be lucky if.
• 39:05
  We can tell you need to you need to work out some burpee
• 39:09
  challenge with Sivan and and CA hormones and get get something
• 39:15
  new there. All right, moving on.
• 39:19
  Oh, look at that guy. Just giving giving my boy a
• 39:22
  shout out, although I don't appreciate that hashtag.
• 39:25
  I was just butt buddies. That sounds like 1 you should
• 39:28
  keep around. Yeah, he's a good guy.
• 39:32
  Viewer comments. Let's get to it.
• 39:34
  We're I, I said. Come join us for 15 minutes and
• 39:38
  we're now 40 minutes into. It so we're gonna we're gonna go
• 39:42
  super quick wildland fest there's like 3 minutes on it OK
• 39:46
  like I don't. Know every athlete gets one
• 39:49
  second. Guys, guys, listen, Brian will
• 39:51
  cover it all. We'll just leave it to.
• 39:53
  Him. He already did.
• 39:54
  You could watch it today. Christy Taylor.
• 39:58
  I think I see Crossfit's distinction between level 1
• 40:01
  expiring and judge's course. In case of expiration, they went
• 40:04
  through the course and passed the test first year for this
• 40:06
  particular judge's course, right?
• 40:09
  So I know take is never having been through the required
• 40:11
  course. I do think that is an important
• 40:14
  distinction though. I don't know what I think right
• 40:17
  call should have been for either 1 so I.
• 40:21
  Was lost halfway through that I didn't.
• 40:23
  Basically that same thing we talked.
• 40:25
  About at all. Basically, if you'd take it, at
• 40:28
  least you at least you had the L1 at some point.
• 40:32
  Didn't agree. What was that person's name?
• 40:34
  Yeah, yeah. Christy Taylor.
• 40:36
  Good, Christy, I'm with. At SPM 40, will the next winner
• 40:43
  of the games be the fittest woman on Earth?
• 40:58
  My brain freaked out. Dude does not compute.
• 41:03
  OK, I think I'll. I'm going to say yes.
• 41:07
  We'll wait and see. I'm going to say yes.
• 41:12
  I'm going to say yes. OK, you know why?
• 41:14
  And here, This is why I will say, yes, Tia's high roxing it
• 41:18
  up. She's only going to get smaller.
• 41:20
  So at the point of the Games, I do not think Tia would win the
• 41:23
  games in that current point. She's not doing CrossFit.
• 41:26
  She's way, way weaker. I mean, we'll see it.
• 41:29
  Torian, like I don't think she'll be as dominant as she
• 41:31
  we're accustomed to her being. She might still win, but I don't
• 41:35
  see her as being dominant, like crazy dominant.
• 41:38
  So at the point of the CrossFit Games, I don't think it'll be
• 41:41
  Tia. I don't think it can be Laura.
• 41:44
  I don't think it's going to be training as hard for a fitness
• 41:46
  project because the guarantee she's paycheck.
• 41:48
  You don't actually have to work hard.
• 41:50
  On top of that, she can't do a handstand push up.
• 41:53
  So I, I, I can't, I'm not going to say Laura just because it's
• 41:58
  luck of the programming, you know what I mean?
• 42:00
  So I can't, you can't. She made it through tour event
• 42:02
  one no handstand push ups. Laura, even the fittest on Earth
• 42:06
  in that year. In 2023, yeah, I think by nature
• 42:10
  of the test, yes. All right, at the in 23, she was
• 42:14
  the fittest. Woman on Earth, I think it
• 42:16
  heavily Yeah, I and I said that I agree with that.
• 42:20
  I think it heavily depends on the programming with her.
• 42:22
  If it's a regular handstand push up event, she'll do fine.
• 42:26
  It's just one specific thing. She's not going to be great,
• 42:28
  right? Like last place, not great.
• 42:30
  I don't know if find is the right way to say it.
• 42:32
  Enough to still win. Yes.
• 42:36
  Emma Lawson would be my front runner.
• 42:38
  She's not playing. And Emma Lawson isn't fit enough
• 42:42
  where I would be like, she would have won, right?
• 42:45
  And she's just not. She maybe one day, not yet.
• 42:48
  So I think whoever wins the CrossFit Games this year will be
• 42:53
  the fittest woman on earth. And, and I'm talking truly, and
• 42:57
  I'm going to label them as that. And I will believe that with all
• 42:59
  my heart. James Sprague was is the fittest
• 43:03
  man on earth. But I get it if you want to say
• 43:05
  it's a label, but but I'm saying there's an argue.
• 43:09
  People can argue James Sprague. I will say he's the fittest man
• 43:11
  on Earth. But with the for the women, I
• 43:14
  don't even think you'll be able to argue it.
• 43:16
  I think whoever wins that current woman is the at that
• 43:19
  point during the games is the fittest woman on Earth and she
• 43:23
  carries that label the entire year.
• 43:26
  Fair enough, I thought we we said winner of the CrossFit
• 43:29
  Games, champion of the CrossFit Games was the correct
• 43:32
  nomenclature and fittest on Earth is reserved for those who
• 43:36
  obviously one with a a correct test and a correct field.
• 43:42
  I don't think we agreed on that. I think if you win the CrossFit
• 43:45
  Games, you get the title of fittest man and woman on Earth.
• 43:50
  Even if the test is not great, you still get the title.
• 43:54
  Now you do get the argument of Adler of of, you know, of Dallin
• 44:03
  and like and like people might not give you the credit.
• 44:06
  You are the fittest man on earth.
• 44:07
  You have that title. Somebody might be better.
• 44:12
  Does that make sense? Where?
• 44:14
  But I'm saying for the women, I think it won't it won't be like
• 44:19
  that for the women. The winner is the winner, right?
• 44:22
  Unless they skew the test again, the test has never been like the
• 44:25
  test was has never been this bad since in the modern era.
• 44:30
  So like it's very hard to say with the right test because.
• 44:35
  I thought so. I thought so.
• 44:38
  On in John. On it it.
• 44:42
  Well, I just said my stance. I don't care what.
• 44:45
  It is next one at Helson. Helson Albern AZ 8 Two O 7 You
• 44:54
  can tell it was a slow week for CrossFit when you guys spent
• 44:57
  almost one hour talking about boring Tia and about this
• 45:02
  article that probably nobody read, not even JY.
• 45:06
  Good show though, thanks. I love the way you read that.
• 45:12
  Yeah. That's great.
• 45:13
  Thank you. Throw your comments in there
• 45:15
  below. We will read them next week.
• 45:19
  Also, if you are as your weekly reminder, go ahead and
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  subscribe. We're almost at 10,000 moving
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  on, so. 10,000 for a minute man. Yeah, get on the freaking
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  subscriptions, you jokers. That's right.
• 45:33
  Next up, So we're moving fast because John talked a lot during
• 45:38
  our AFJ segment. Yeah, that is your fault, John.
• 45:42
  I think I asked one question. So we were going to talk about
• 45:47
  just the in the in in affiliate team semifinals, but John was
• 45:51
  like, hey, I want to, I want some questions.
• 45:53
  Let's open it up. Let's open up the lines.
• 45:55
  This was for all of us. It wasn't like Ask Me you made
• 45:59
  it was. It for all.
• 46:00
  Of us yes, I was saying we need to answer it No, no, no, no.
• 46:04
  I phrased this like we should answer any and everything.
• 46:08
  There's a lot of kind of stuff in the CrossFit space right now.
• 46:11
  I just rumors or arguments or whatever you want to have it and
• 46:17
  that we will answer everything as truthful as we can.
• 46:21
  We got we, we, we, we got a bunch of questions and we can
• 46:24
  mostly answer them. First one we got to.
• 46:28
  Prep for this. Is Tyler prepared to coach his
• 46:31
  Tyler's trash athlete at the games?
• 46:33
  An invite was just received. You want to coach Mike Kern?
• 46:38
  Hell yeah. OK.
• 46:40
  Is that an honest expectation? I don't know, Mike.
• 46:43
  Let us know. I mean, I've never coached an
• 46:46
  athlete at the Games, but I think I'd be pretty decent at
• 46:49
  it. I would be asked.
• 46:55
  Amazing. I'd have a good chance to see
• 46:57
  anybody. I would be basically when I
• 47:00
  wasn't with the with the athlete I would be talking to like
• 47:04
  Dallin and and this is Master Chief this.
• 47:08
  Is masters. It doesn't matter.
• 47:10
  You know, and you know what? They're not going to be there.
• 47:14
  I'd just be texting them. I'd just.
• 47:16
  Be I'd bring them along. You know, with me, you get a
• 47:19
  coaching staff, so you'll get James and Allen as well and.
• 47:23
  What's that girl's name over there?
• 47:25
  Her name's Gemma. She might be a good swimmer,
• 47:28
  which we walked out for her. I will tell you how not to lose,
• 47:32
  that's for sure. That's.
• 47:35
  Good, John, What has been the biggest surprise about being a
• 47:39
  new dad? I don't know.
• 47:45
  Nothing really. It's pretty much everyday.
• 47:49
  Same. Day, you know, you know,
• 47:51
  honestly, honestly, and I don't know this, this, I don't know if
• 47:53
  it's a good thing or a bad thing.
• 47:55
  I'm very like. That's fine, I don't need advice
• 48:01
  on how to adjust. I, I read that, I read that as
• 48:04
  he said, I'll never take advice from you.
• 48:06
  And then it was, it was not that I, I feel like I live every day
• 48:13
  like this. This is just what the day
• 48:14
  brings, you know what I mean? And then like, whenever I had a
• 48:18
  baby, I was like, OK, I have a baby now, you know, and Leslie,
• 48:23
  I do need to be told like how to do things.
• 48:26
  I'm like, can you tell me how to do this?
• 48:28
  And then she does, begrudgingly most of the time.
• 48:33
  And then and then you just kind of figure it out.
• 48:35
  You know what I mean? Truly, it's not like a, it is a
• 48:39
  huge adjustment, but I don't know if I've been surprised by
• 48:42
  anything. It's just kind of like this is
• 48:43
  what I do now. Sounds easy then.
• 48:47
  I'm I'm, I'm, I'm relaxed. About Yeah, you take that,
• 48:49
  Tyler? Yeah, yeah.
• 48:51
  Let's roll with it, Julian Iford, we like it when you pay
• 48:54
  us to read us a question. First one, what did you think of
• 48:58
  the heat coming down on Brian Friend, especially after the
• 49:03
  Froning podcast? OK, so are we talking about his
• 49:06
  criticism of Mayhem or well, like, can we, can we, let's
• 49:10
  specify what we're talking about exactly.
• 49:13
  I think it's up for interpretation after the
• 49:16
  Froning, like after his appearance on the Froning
• 49:18
  podcast, the heat coming down on him.
• 49:22
  I Tyler, do you want to go first?
• 49:24
  Spin Do you want to go? First you, you go ahead and lead
• 49:26
  off and I'll. Right.
• 49:29
  I'll prep. I, I, I feel like in like and
• 49:36
  you guys can correct me if I'm wrong.
• 49:38
  I feel like I tried. I don't know if harder is the
• 49:43
  right word, but I gave Brian more chances than anybody to be
• 49:49
  a good person to me. And I, I, I would just say like
• 49:56
  any, all the stuff that is said on the comments of how he is, I
• 50:01
  would say it. I wouldn't disagree with any of
• 50:05
  those comments, most of them. And if he feels differently,
• 50:10
  then I feel like he should look in the mirror.
• 50:15
  But like, and that's kind of like I would say, and I mean
• 50:18
  again, and I don't want to speak for him, but I think I think
• 50:22
  that's his biggest shortcoming is, is his inability to do that.
• 50:27
  It's not like any of us are perfect.
• 50:28
  I have, I have my shortcomings big time.
• 50:31
  But you know, you try to realize them and then you try to be
• 50:36
  better from it. And I, I think that's you guys
• 50:42
  tell me if you agree, but I think that's his biggest issue.
• 50:51
  And do you want to go before I? No, you're next in line there,
• 50:54
  Chief. I've I've debated on how to deal
• 50:58
  with this. I think you 2 both saw a large
• 51:05
  range of emotion for me yesterday.
• 51:08
  Yeah, just just read what you wrote yesterday.
• 51:11
  No, I, I yeah. You would tell me to read that.
• 51:20
  I I have some rules in life that can't be broken and Brian
• 51:29
  particular. So I will talk about you, John.
• 51:32
  OK, Brian, I was I was Privy to conversations that Brian was
• 51:37
  having privately with different people.
• 51:41
  Just so happened at the same time he was also texting John.
• 51:43
  He was texting John nice things and then he was talking shit
• 51:47
  about John and other threads and, and keeping John out of
• 51:51
  opportunity and, and trying to undermine John.
• 51:55
  And John was the nicest person and most forgiving person when
• 52:01
  it came to Brian. I thought, you know you and you
• 52:05
  and Taylor went a lot farther. Like when you break my rules,
• 52:11
  you're you're fucking done. And that's what happened with
• 52:13
  Halpin. Like I cut him off.
• 52:14
  It was done. And you, rightfully so, were the
• 52:17
  first one to that camp. You were out of your time on
• 52:20
  that one. You were.
• 52:22
  And I, I mean, like, I, I bit my tongue for a long time with
• 52:28
  Brian and then when he did that, like it's going to sound like
• 52:33
  I'm on Fast and the Furious, but it's like John and Brian and the
• 52:38
  other guys are fucking family to me.
• 52:40
  And they've never shit on me. They've never done anything bad
• 52:43
  to me. And the moment that Ryan did
• 52:46
  that to John, I was like, I fucking got sideways and I
• 52:52
  couldn't fucking deal with it anymore.
• 52:54
  I think he's continued to work into the space.
• 52:57
  I try to stay out of his way. If people ask me about him, I
• 53:01
  will tell them who I think that he is, who I who I've known him
• 53:05
  to be because we were in a we were pretty close with him for a
• 53:09
  couple years. He never ceased to bring up the
• 53:14
  fact that I owed him for making me this person or bringing me
• 53:19
  out to light. And that was shitty.
• 53:22
  When he was in the thread, there was always this hierarchy of,
• 53:26
  and John and I have talked about this in the past.
• 53:27
  There was this hierarchy of, of who could say what it was like 7
• 53:32
  on its top and him. And then like, I've never felt
• 53:36
  like I could say shit because it's like, oh, you don't know
• 53:39
  enough. OK, since that has gone away, we
• 53:42
  all have an equal voice. We all say what we want.
• 53:47
  And that's been hugely important to the group.
• 53:50
  And the fact that it's like all's we had to do was remove
• 53:53
  that spoke volumes about him. I, I don't want to even
• 53:59
  acknowledge his existence anymore.
• 54:01
  I'm like, I'm tired of, I'm tired of talking about him.
• 54:07
  He exists. We are his.
• 54:14
  We he talks about his problems with us more than he talks about
• 54:16
  almost anything. And it's like the longer we
• 54:19
  continue to interact with him, the longer this is going to go
• 54:21
  on. He only survives because in this
• 54:23
  space, because we allow that and we keep picking on him and it's
• 54:28
  like we try to stay out of his way.
• 54:29
  We really do. And then he fucking steps up and
• 54:32
  says some shit on Rich's podcast and provokes the whole group and
• 54:35
  acts like, oh, but I didn't do anything.
• 54:37
  No, you're playing like these shitty games where it's like you
• 54:40
  say enough and then you're like, well, they're they're hitting
• 54:42
  me. It's like, dude, fuck off.
• 54:44
  Like going on Rich's podcast and saying, oh, I lost all my
• 54:48
  friends. It's like, shut the fuck up and
• 54:50
  grow up dude. Spin I, don't I.
• 54:56
  I don't have any patience for this.
• 54:58
  I have no patience for this anymore.
• 55:01
  If y'all can't tell, it's it's we, I, I, I feel like the group,
• 55:08
  barring Andrew, he's in the comments, but has relatively
• 55:15
  like been not loud about it. Like there's so much stuff that
• 55:20
  we could say like over and over again and like we didn't like
• 55:26
  and Andrew's the only one who brought it to life.
• 55:30
  But and I it's crazy when you said like the group dynamic
• 55:35
  since he got cut out, I feel like all of us got closer.
• 55:39
  And that should tell you something.
• 55:40
  You know, that's and I and I feel so I feel bad.
• 55:44
  I can't not feel bad. And I, and I know you guys get
• 55:47
  mad at me because I feel bad. I feel bad for him, but it he's
• 55:51
  his own worst enemy. Like I it's it's all
• 55:56
  self-inflicted and he doesn't see any of it.
• 56:02
  Yeah, no, I, I definitely think it would suck to not be part of
• 56:07
  the group that we're in, John, but.
• 56:14
  You wanted to bring that up, but.
• 56:22
  I needed that. No, I again, like I've stayed
• 56:27
  out of it. I've not really done anything
• 56:28
  publicly. I mean, I think just going back
• 56:32
  to the, the podcast itself, I, it felt disconnected, like it
• 56:40
  felt like they were starting to pull on a string and then it
• 56:43
  went nowhere. And it, and I think it was both
• 56:47
  Brian and Rich maybe changing directions or not answer it like
• 56:50
  going down the hard path or discussion.
• 56:53
  Like we never talked. They never talked about the
• 56:56
  reason that this whole thing came up about the squats.
• 56:59
  Like they, they started it and then it went like a different
• 57:01
  direction. And what I've struggled the most
• 57:08
  with is this his his comment about you need to we've not,
• 57:17
  we've not the motor E scores for him.
• 57:19
  Yeah. Yeah, he said.
• 57:20
  We haven't put stuff out for him.
• 57:23
  I have been on his podcast with rankings like literally like JY
• 57:30
  versus Brian, like on who's going to who's who for whatever
• 57:34
  competition. I don't know what it was, but
• 57:37
  and let and like for his, it's on his platform.
• 57:40
  We don't benefit from that. We get nothing from that and I
• 57:45
  didn't ask that for him to pay me for it.
• 57:50
  Yeah. That didn't even register in my
• 57:52
  mind, because for normal people that doesn't register in your
• 57:56
  mind. Yeah, I look, I I write articles
• 58:03
  all day long and publish all kinds of stuff about news.
• 58:07
  Someone please help. I don't expect anybody to
• 58:10
  promote it for me. No.
• 58:13
  Right, I think it's cool when it does, right, Like any time that
• 58:16
  anybody talks about it or brings up my article, whether it's
• 58:19
  from, you know, Sivan or Hiller or, you know, heck, even when
• 58:24
  talking to elite fitness or Craig Ritchie or anybody like
• 58:27
  brings up an article like, oh, that's cool.
• 58:28
  Like they find value. And anytime that Rich talks
• 58:30
  about it, like, oh, cool, he's that's how they're finding out
• 58:33
  news. But at no point do I think that
• 58:38
  Tyler should go publish something of mine or go share a
• 58:41
  story because of it, right? And to some degree, like if I'm
• 58:48
  covering something, nobody else is like, great, that means I can
• 58:51
  get more eyeballs on it. I'm not sharing the eyeballs
• 58:54
  with everybody else. Like they're going to come to me
• 58:56
  for it. The problem is, and I deal with
• 58:58
  this on, to be honest, like the age groups, the adaptives, like
• 59:06
  I can write articles all day long about that stuff.
• 59:09
  It gets fractions of talking about the American athletes or
• 59:14
  the top stories going on. That's that everybody knows
• 59:18
  about the top 10 athletes in the world.
• 59:20
  And. Oh, and you got and you got to
• 59:22
  make decisions about where you spend your time.
• 59:26
  Right, I'm, I'm just thinking normal people, dude, normal
• 59:29
  people. Imagine Clydesdale saying, well,
• 59:32
  if you would just push the stuff that I put out for masters
• 59:35
  people. No, that's what I'm saying.
• 59:39
  He doesn't. He's like, I want to grow my own
• 59:42
  channel and I and I'm going to do it like and I'm going to try
• 59:45
  my best and put forth what I want to put forth out there.
• 59:48
  And he's never. To his to his compliment, he
• 59:50
  actually says like, these are the less important people.
• 59:53
  And I understand like, but we're going to focus here.
• 59:55
  And that's what this is where we want to focus.
• 59:57
  And, and he's never once said, man, if those guys would just
• 1:00:01
  push my stuff out. I like, I can't believe they
• 1:00:04
  don't. I talk about them all the time.
• 1:00:06
  They should to be. Honest.
• 1:00:08
  Like if you want to go find an art, an interview of somebody
• 1:00:12
  that's an up and coming athlete, you go check Clydesdale first.
• 1:00:16
  For for. For any like like a semi final
• 1:00:19
  athlete like any athlete. Or any panchick pro bio.
• 1:00:25
  You've got all that panchicks. But but truly.
• 1:00:28
  And he was funny. He knows more.
• 1:00:30
  I don't know what those athletes do.
• 1:00:33
  Well, like, and that's a good point to be made.
• 1:00:35
  It's like, you know, we say it rather roughly sometimes.
• 1:00:38
  It's like we don't care about South Africa, we don't care
• 1:00:42
  about the athletes, but it's like it is a true meritocracy
• 1:00:45
  for us. Roman came up in Asia.
• 1:00:48
  We talked the hell up out of Roman all the time.
• 1:00:51
  You know why? Because he was one of the best
• 1:00:52
  in the world and he was a contender.
• 1:00:54
  That's who we talk about is the contenders.
• 1:00:56
  We don't give a shit what's going on in the fucking Balkans.
• 1:00:59
  We don't care because it's not important.
• 1:01:02
  And it's fine if you think it's important.
• 1:01:04
  It's fine if that's what you want to put out, that's fine.
• 1:01:08
  You don't cry that we don't push that stuff out that you do.
• 1:01:13
  You know, it's like I, I I mean, it'd be like Hiller.
• 1:01:15
  It'd be like Hiller whenever I was in the midst of getting
• 1:01:19
  cancelled. Thank you spin.
• 1:01:21
  And Hiller puts out the Mitchell Hooper video.
• 1:01:24
  Like like literally, you know, I'm getting a lot of stuff from
• 1:01:27
  my phone. Like it's, you know, it's it's
• 1:01:29
  it's pretty depressing. I don't, I can't tell you what
• 1:01:31
  it's like to have 300 DMS telling you you're the worst
• 1:01:36
  person ever. Like it commenting, commenting
• 1:01:39
  on my wife's stuff like, like, like it's, you know, it's, it's
• 1:01:42
  a lot. It's a lot, right.
• 1:01:44
  And, and Hiller, in a way, you know, comes to my rescue and
• 1:01:49
  then and puts the whole CrossFit sphere on Mitchell Hooper now
• 1:01:54
  who, you know, the world's strongest man tells you this guy
• 1:01:57
  just wants to sleep with everybody.
• 1:01:58
  He's the worst human being ever on YouTube.
• 1:02:01
  And it'd be like, and he did, he does like Hitler didn't have to
• 1:02:04
  do that, but he, he wanted to. And then it would be like him
• 1:02:09
  texting me afterwards, Hey, that's $500.
• 1:02:15
  That's what Brian does like, like, like in a way.
• 1:02:18
  And it's different, but am I wrong?
• 1:02:22
  Am I wrong in that? Or like expects expects
• 1:02:24
  something. From see, it's the expectation
• 1:02:27
  that that kills me. And it's like, dude, like I've
• 1:02:31
  written articles for spin and it's like they've gotten trash
• 1:02:34
  clicks and it's like, you know, I don't say like, hey, dude, you
• 1:02:38
  owe me for writing this article. It's like, no, I'm I'm happy
• 1:02:40
  just to write what I do. Like to play devil's advocate, I
• 1:02:45
  do feel for Brian at times. Like there was there was a time
• 1:02:51
  that I thought he was working pretty hard and he was going and
• 1:02:53
  doing a lot of stuff. And like, if you're trying to
• 1:02:56
  make your life on this, like you're going to, you're going to
• 1:02:59
  push to be paid. And like, especially if you
• 1:03:01
  follow the philosophy of like, you know, ask for what you're
• 1:03:04
  worth. But it's like, dude, we talk
• 1:03:06
  about this all the time. Like the athletes aren't getting
• 1:03:08
  paid. Why are you asking for money?
• 1:03:11
  Dude, I don't. Even care if you're asking, I
• 1:03:13
  don't even care if you're paying a gentleman to all of that.
• 1:03:17
  Yeah, I don't. I don't really care about that
• 1:03:19
  piece of it. I think it's crazy that he's
• 1:03:22
  making as much money as he does going and traveling around and
• 1:03:25
  doing the competitions he does because I know what he charges
• 1:03:27
  for that. And that's like, I mean, it's
• 1:03:29
  props to him, but like he took a chance to start his own company
• 1:03:34
  because he did it because he asked for money from Sevon and
• 1:03:38
  Sevon wasn't doing it. Talking elite fitness got cut
• 1:03:41
  him off a place where he was coaching cut him off.
• 1:03:44
  There's three different places where they're like, I'm good
• 1:03:48
  with you. And then he starts his own
• 1:03:50
  company, which I it's a freaking pattern.
• 1:03:53
  And it then and and like it, it's not as successful as he
• 1:03:59
  thought it was, but he's and but you don't, you just, you keep
• 1:04:04
  working. You don't, you don't play the
• 1:04:08
  victim card and said and say they are the reason.
• 1:04:12
  They are the reason. Yeah, I didn't think about that
• 1:04:14
  one. They are the reason that I'm
• 1:04:17
  that I'm not successful. Like you don't, you can't.
• 1:04:21
  I don't. That's the worst mentality ever
• 1:04:23
  to be like they are the reason I'm not successful.
• 1:04:26
  And that's wild to me. That's that's wild to me.
• 1:04:32
  What I will say to put a bow on all this.
• 1:04:34
  And I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
• 1:04:35
  Well, I'm gonna let you speak. I'm sorry.
• 1:04:37
  I'm sorry. No, you're good.
• 1:04:38
  I'm sorry that this has turned into a rant on on Brian's thing.
• 1:04:42
  I didn't mean for it to be like that.
• 1:04:44
  I hope we could have all the questions, but but like, I
• 1:04:50
  didn't mean for this to be a like a scope of why we are
• 1:04:54
  against Brian, if you even want to call it that or where the
• 1:04:57
  like fallout happened. It's just y'all can tell there's
• 1:05:01
  a lot of like just pent up stuff from him and This is why he's
• 1:05:06
  not in the group, right? Like it's, it's and it, it's a
• 1:05:10
  lot more. We get detailed stories, but
• 1:05:13
  it's, it's coming from a place of it's pent up.
• 1:05:18
  Matter of fact, like the reason we don't tell those stories is
• 1:05:21
  because like there is a bit of care still and it's like we're
• 1:05:25
  not going to shed light on that stuff because it's better for
• 1:05:27
  Brian if we don't. And what I will say, like to put
• 1:05:30
  a bow on all this is I think there's this, there's this
• 1:05:36
  conception that the group has this like 1, like 7 comes down
• 1:05:40
  and says, OK, guys, this is what we're doing.
• 1:05:42
  If you've been in the thread for longer than like 10 minutes,
• 1:05:45
  you'll know that that is not how it goes.
• 1:05:46
  We all have very different opinions.
• 1:05:48
  We argue daily, like functionally argue.
• 1:05:52
  We all came to this decision like on our own and like 7 on
• 1:05:57
  his right. When I said, I said somewhere
• 1:05:59
  that it was like we all like unanimously or quickly
• 1:06:02
  simultaneously was the word I used.
• 1:06:04
  Simultaneous was like over the course of like a couple weeks,
• 1:06:09
  but like we don't, we don't do that.
• 1:06:12
  We all came to this decision on our own.
• 1:06:13
  You might not like each of us individually, but there are
• 1:06:16
  those who you know, to be part of the group, who I think most
• 1:06:22
  of you would consider to be like very level headed and they came
• 1:06:25
  to the same decision. And so it's like for you to just
• 1:06:28
  think we're picking on him. If anything, we've gone light
• 1:06:32
  and it's like, I, I mean, I text him this yesterday.
• 1:06:34
  Don't talk about us anymore. Like it's in your best interest
• 1:06:38
  to stop talking about us because we don't want to talk about you
• 1:06:41
  anymore. Yeah, Mr. Young, the worst thing
• 1:06:48
  about that podcast with Mayhem is that it happened.
• 1:06:52
  I appreciate made him relevant rich.
• 1:06:54
  Trying. Yes, I mean, there's a lot,
• 1:07:01
  Hillary I. Was I was jealous, I was
• 1:07:04
  jealous. It made me want to be on the IT
• 1:07:06
  it it made me want to be on the podcast.
• 1:07:08
  And I like, you know, I don't know where the conversations
• 1:07:10
  will go, but like I would love you're just.
• 1:07:13
  Telling Rich he's not the good. Yeah, yeah, I would love to be
• 1:07:17
  in front of Rich and be like, listen, This is why I didn't
• 1:07:19
  like you, but This is why I was so like anti mayhem for like 5
• 1:07:25
  years and listen, and this is the year I have 180 switched on
• 1:07:30
  it. Yes, right.
• 1:07:32
  Yes. Surprisingly.
• 1:07:34
  And I was. 179 and. Just yeah, 179.
• 1:07:37
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm not the fittest, but
• 1:07:40
  he's it. Was like a head over the
• 1:07:42
  shoulder the whole time. Still looking at Matt.
• 1:07:44
  Matt. Matt was still fitter, but he's
• 1:07:46
  not the GOAT. OK.
• 1:07:48
  But I would love to have that conversation and see where it
• 1:07:51
  went. And I'll look Angelo dead in
• 1:07:53
  their eyes and tell him to you know it.
• 1:07:54
  And it would be so fun for me but.
• 1:07:58
  I feel like Angelo would say more than 8 words and read,
• 1:08:02
  yeah, read a scripture. Yeah.
• 1:08:08
  Rich, Angelo, bring John out to Cookeville.
• 1:08:12
  That's the podcast we want to watch.
• 1:08:15
  Actually podcast with him. Just put a camera on him.
• 1:08:18
  Hey, when I come to when I come to syndicate, listen, we can do
• 1:08:21
  this when I'm at syndicate, dude, I'm right next to
• 1:08:23
  Cookeville. We all right, we'll do I'm so.
• 1:08:26
  It'll be like the Office with the what was the old guy's name?
• 1:08:28
  And they he won the blog. So the guy just opened the Word
• 1:08:31
  Creed and he just put it, he opened up the Word Word
• 1:08:34
  document. Scott just puts a camera on.
• 1:08:37
  He's like, yeah, go for it, John.
• 1:08:39
  But I don't. If you don't want to, don't
• 1:08:41
  worry about it. I don't want to.
• 1:08:44
  I don't want to. I don't want to force y'all's
• 1:08:45
  hand. My first initial reaction was I
• 1:08:47
  was just jealous about it. But don't.
• 1:08:49
  I want, I want to see you out there.
• 1:08:51
  If y'all don't, If y'all don't like me, Mayhem, you know it's
• 1:08:54
  cool you can keep not liking me. I understand.
• 1:08:57
  I don't know if you do or not. Keeping it Real $5.
• 1:09:00
  Bring a £50 dumbbell to syndicate John, he has something
• 1:09:03
  for you. No, Sounds creepy.
• 1:09:06
  Dude I have to do Isabel like 6 times at I'm not working out
• 1:09:11
  other than the other times I have to do it my back is going
• 1:09:15
  to be fried. He's going to be constantly
• 1:09:17
  drinking Gatorades, prepping for the next Isabel.
• 1:09:20
  Listen, it's going to be super fun at Syndicate.
• 1:09:22
  I will tell you this, guys, we got a snatch clinic that I'm
• 1:09:24
  going to run. I'm going to teach you how to
• 1:09:26
  snatch better. Spin Lord, No spin needs it, but
• 1:09:29
  it's going to be super, super fun.
• 1:09:33
  And then and then we're going to yeah, I I would show up because
• 1:09:37
  I need help. I think we're going to do team
• 1:09:40
  double Isabel. I think Isabel's a part of the
• 1:09:42
  community pairs. We're going to do that again,
• 1:09:45
  obviously. And if you're actually good at
• 1:09:47
  snatching, I think we have three slots left for the JY barbell
• 1:09:50
  challenge. If you want to go do it, me and
• 1:09:53
  heavy Isabel, the heat right before the pros go, that's going
• 1:09:58
  to be super, super exciting. But yeah, OK, next question.
• 1:10:03
  Real quick Mrs. Spin, I got so mad when he said a large part of
• 1:10:06
  the community hates Sivan and you all.
• 1:10:08
  That was crazy. Yeah, think about that.
• 1:10:11
  He's like, guys, so many people hate them.
• 1:10:15
  I don't know if any of us have ever said that about Brian.
• 1:10:19
  You know what I mean? Like you think what he just said
• 1:10:23
  is probably more inflammatory than anything any of us have
• 1:10:26
  ever said about him, excluding the Hitler video.
• 1:10:30
  Because that that that that told the truth, I think.
• 1:10:33
  What? Taylor.
• 1:10:34
  Said this morning was pretty inflammatory probably.
• 1:10:37
  On a while, yeah, you know, and I don't know how I feel about
• 1:10:40
  that, but the. But I don't know if we, I, I
• 1:10:45
  don't know, telling everybody, I don't care.
• 1:10:47
  But here's the thing, it just doesn't carry as much water, you
• 1:10:51
  know? Next question from a team Team
• 1:10:55
  athlete. I will be your coach, yes.
• 1:11:00
  Would you cheat? The run as a team athlete.
• 1:11:04
  Just a note though, this team athlete won't be.
• 1:11:07
  Just so you know, this team athlete will not.
• 1:11:09
  Be cheating but asking for a friend asking.
• 1:11:12
  For a friend, would you cheat the run if you were on?
• 1:11:14
  A team is this CrossFit man made asking this question.
• 1:11:17
  It is not. They would cheat.
• 1:11:18
  Wait, never mind. Go ahead.
• 1:11:20
  Would you cheat if you were trying to make it to the games?
• 1:11:23
  I'll tell you what, if you see me coming in around the three
• 1:11:26
  minute mark, I did. I did not.
• 1:11:29
  I did not do that run well. Look at how I'm at 3:50.
• 1:11:36
  You know any anything under 330 it's still it's the course is
• 1:11:40
  short then. I'm fairly aggravated with the
• 1:11:43
  HWPO athlete Kale Lehman for cheating, but.
• 1:11:48
  I. Do enjoy cheating, I will admit.
• 1:11:51
  It's probably. I would.
• 1:11:55
  I would be hard pressed to not cheat in this workout.
• 1:12:01
  Seriously though, don't cheat. This is this is the literally
• 1:12:04
  the the the last stage to qualify for the games.
• 1:12:09
  He's he's on a team and then he comes in in 2 minutes.
• 1:12:15
  Man, I'm just so much better of a runner than I was.
• 1:12:18
  That made him. He got me.
• 1:12:21
  Like seriously, do you think that there will be a team that
• 1:12:23
  cheats? Yeah, 100% because I, I mean,
• 1:12:28
  I'm, I would think I'm thinking about it and I'm not even doing
• 1:12:32
  the. Competition I think, I think, I
• 1:12:34
  think, I think a lot of teams will run an 800 meter course,
• 1:12:40
  but like turn around before the 800 meters.
• 1:12:43
  So I think I bet you a lot of teams like run 750, you know
• 1:12:49
  what I mean? Just like where that turn around
• 1:12:50
  point is or whatever circle, you just cut it a little bit where
• 1:12:53
  you know, nobody knows, right? And like you're still doing the
• 1:12:56
  majority, but you're like, you're like doing like 90% of
• 1:12:59
  the run every single time. That's what I think will happen.
• 1:13:04
  Not everybody. But if you don't, can you
• 1:13:08
  qualify? That's the thing.
• 1:13:12
  That's because, OK, you're measuring off your 800 meters,
• 1:13:15
  right? And then you're like, well, this
• 1:13:17
  line's kind of at, you know, 759.
• 1:13:21
  Well, other people are definitely going to cheat.
• 1:13:22
  It's fine. It's close enough.
• 1:13:24
  That's what you measure 800. Yeah, but it's like. 400 down in
• 1:13:29
  bag, a 400 down in bag, and then you just turn around before the
• 1:13:32
  400 meter mark. Our gym has like some lines out
• 1:13:37
  right? And I'm convinced at this point
• 1:13:38
  that they're not, they're not what they say they are, right?
• 1:13:41
  Because it's like, where do you measure it?
• 1:13:43
  Like what was the point of origin in the gym?
• 1:13:45
  Like all that stuff starts to play in.
• 1:13:47
  I've run these 100 times. I'm like, there's no way I'm
• 1:13:49
  running an 800 this fast. It's definitely short.
• 1:13:52
  But if you're like, yeah, you know, he measured it, it's fine.
• 1:13:56
  Well, I mean, you got to you got to show a video to John's point,
• 1:13:59
  like you have to do some type of video, do some type of GPS.
• 1:14:02
  First of all, if you looked at my stories, I think it's gone
• 1:14:04
  now, but don't don't use a alter GPS altering software.
• 1:14:09
  Definitely don't do that. You're.
• 1:14:13
  The best at teaching people out of G The rower, the GPS, Yeah.
• 1:14:18
  Don't, don't, don't do that the. Video.
• 1:14:20
  You can edit videos now or pause videos.
• 1:14:23
  Right. Yeah, don't do any of that
• 1:14:24
  stuff. I mean, you have to know it to
• 1:14:27
  to combat it, but I I think I think John's right, like cooks
• 1:14:33
  Nancy droppings. Like how hard would it be?
• 1:14:38
  Like you saw the Hitler video where it was like the original
• 1:14:42
  splicer, right? And he like showed a video, a
• 1:14:45
  dumbbell and it was like against the wall.
• 1:14:47
  And then he chose the real dumbbells.
• 1:14:48
  And it wasn't like when you do your video, you put a line up
• 1:14:52
  and it's, you know, 20 meters down the row because that's
• 1:14:56
  where you're doing your run. But then you actually do it at
• 1:15:01
  the other end of the rig. It's closer to the door.
• 1:15:04
  Like just just that alone gives you, you know, 40 meters off,
• 1:15:10
  right? Right.
• 1:15:11
  In a larger gym. Like there's so many different
• 1:15:13
  ways you can cheat it. And unfortunately, we've seen it
• 1:15:17
  in the open. Like we saw judges aren't who
• 1:15:20
  they say they are. We know that people are like
• 1:15:23
  skirting the standards, like there's so many different things
• 1:15:26
  that we're seeing that you can't just say, well, the judge is
• 1:15:30
  going to not let him do it because they're part of the
• 1:15:32
  team. They're not outside judges.
• 1:15:35
  They're invested. I I just, I'm really curious to
• 1:15:40
  know what the FAQs look like for this one because I guarantee
• 1:15:43
  people are going to be asking a whole bunch of questions about
• 1:15:46
  it. Why do you think that they did
• 1:15:49
  this? I think the idea is that they
• 1:15:52
  want to they they need to they need to identify or have some
• 1:15:56
  type of long form run and they want to not do shuttle runs.
• 1:16:05
  But this is not the answer. So they didn't want to get shit
• 1:16:09
  on for put putting a mile shuttle runs in like they did.
• 1:16:13
  I think you could have done a different work, like I think you
• 1:16:14
  could have modified it differently where it's like 4
• 1:16:16
  rounds of things and one person has to do that while the other
• 1:16:23
  three are doing it. Like do something like that
• 1:16:25
  where it is shuttle runs, it's 800 meters.
• 1:16:27
  It takes forever to do that like they did in the Masters last
• 1:16:31
  year, right? Just have one person going back
• 1:16:34
  and forth, you know, a gazillion times.
• 1:16:36
  Will the other three do the work?
• 1:16:37
  And you got to wait for that dude to finish up his run before
• 1:16:40
  you move on to, you know, swap out athletes, something like
• 1:16:43
  that, that would be viewable. But like there's gyms that are
• 1:16:49
  in the basement, there are gyms that have that are upstairs.
• 1:16:51
  There's gyms that are on top of a hill.
• 1:16:53
  Like there are so many different ways that I don't think you can
• 1:16:57
  say it's equitable when you're looking at the top 20 in the
• 1:17:00
  freaking world. How hard is it to be a top 20 in
• 1:17:04
  the world for a lot of these teams?
• 1:17:06
  Teams like I would assume Mayhem's gonna be fine.
• 1:17:11
  I don't know. It's it's not guaranteed on an
• 1:17:13
  online competition that you're doing at blind.
• 1:17:16
  Well, especially because Rich is going to be like, you know, or
• 1:17:19
  if I were associated with the team, I would be like, hey,
• 1:17:23
  fucking run that shit the right way and then you're screwed
• 1:17:26
  because. They get 50.
• 1:17:28
  They get they get 56 in this workout.
• 1:17:30
  Yeah, and that's not even speaking like the logistical
• 1:17:35
  issues. It's like hope weather's good
• 1:17:37
  that week. Yeah.
• 1:17:40
  There's a tornado in Wyoming. Yeah, I mean.
• 1:17:43
  That's not where tornadoes happen.
• 1:17:46
  Alabama now Mississippi, now that tornado alleys moved.
• 1:17:49
  I mean even. Yeah.
• 1:17:52
  So I, I just, yeah. Who gets more event wins at the
• 1:17:57
  games, Austin or Colton? Austin.
• 1:18:03
  It's a great question. It's easy, I just answered it.
• 1:18:12
  The games is different, man. I think the games is a lot of
• 1:18:16
  Colton 1st and Austin second, but then Colton's 15th, Austin's
• 1:18:21
  still second. I think if you looked at this
• 1:18:23
  past year's games like I think Colton beats him in like the two
• 1:18:26
  finale workouts. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:18:28
  And I I know for a fact he did. There might be one or two others
• 1:18:32
  that he might have been able to beat him at.
• 1:18:34
  Like event wins, Austin has to beat everybody and I almost
• 1:18:38
  think it needs to be a wheelhouse workout for him to do
• 1:18:41
  that. And if it's a wheelhouse workout
• 1:18:45
  for him, probably a wheelhouse workout for Colton.
• 1:18:48
  Colton wins those, then they're good when it's good for both of
• 1:18:51
  them. Colton's better now, Austin's
• 1:18:54
  better at more things, but when it's good for both of them,
• 1:18:58
  Colton's better. I, I, I almost would say Colton
• 1:19:01
  and I'm going to pick Austin to win the games.
• 1:19:05
  That's just the variability. And I would say Colton.
• 1:19:07
  I'm noting this. I'm putting this in Heat one at
• 1:19:10
  the games. I would say dude, it's great.
• 1:19:12
  It's a great one. I what's The thing is like, do
• 1:19:15
  you remember Fraser 2016? When Fraser won 2016, he had he
• 1:19:22
  run, he won the run and then he had 7 second places.
• 1:19:28
  That's how that's what Austin's going to do.
• 1:19:29
  That's what Austin's going to do.
• 1:19:31
  Not not to the same extent. It'll be more like 4 second
• 1:19:34
  places, but like, and then win one event.
• 1:19:37
  Colton will have three wins. That's still pretty impressive.
• 1:19:42
  What stage or level of the mountain are the Copasur
• 1:19:46
  qualifiers? Are any of them on the mountain?
• 1:19:49
  No. OK.
• 1:19:55
  I'm going to be honest with you, none of them know where the
• 1:19:58
  mountain. Pass is how do they get to the
• 1:20:03
  grid League matches tickets? Say what?
• 1:20:08
  Tickets to the grid League matches.
• 1:20:10
  Is there a place to buy tickets to go see the Grid league?
• 1:20:14
  That is a great question. I I, I don't know, I think.
• 1:20:18
  Unitedgridleague.com. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:20:20
  Go to the United Grid. Thank you, Tyler.
• 1:20:23
  You're welcome. Go to theunitedgridley.com.
• 1:20:26
  May 24th, May 24th is first match, it's in Miami.
• 1:20:32
  June 14th is in Tampa. And then July 12th and 13th,
• 1:20:38
  those are the big ones. It's a a double, two different
• 1:20:41
  two matches and those are the ones Colton will be at 2, so
• 1:20:44
  that'll be a really fun one. That's in Dallas, yeah.
• 1:20:49
  Are you guys tired of the kale layman stuff yet?
• 1:20:52
  Can't wait. Can't wait to see him win
• 1:20:55
  Syndicate. Don't.
• 1:20:57
  Hold your breath, Kale layman. Was he kale?
• 1:21:05
  What? The road tech question is
• 1:21:09
  probably Adam. Adam is convinced he's going to
• 1:21:12
  go to sit to syndicate and I'm like nothing.
• 1:21:15
  Dude, there's no way I would be surprised if he if he, I would
• 1:21:19
  be surprised if he went to syndicate.
• 1:21:23
  But if he does I hope nothing for the best for him.
• 1:21:27
  I don't think it would go great. It's a murder mystery.
• 1:21:31
  I am done with it to. Answer the question you're done
• 1:21:35
  to. Answer the question was that
• 1:21:36
  yeah, yeah, I am, I am done with it.
• 1:21:37
  I I don't think it's. Did you see Grant's video?
• 1:21:42
  Yes, yes, I yes, I do yes, I did.
• 1:21:45
  Dude. You should watch it.
• 1:21:46
  Dude. It's it's like like and and
• 1:21:49
  Grant's been overkill on this like bad.
• 1:21:53
  I, I when he gets obsessed with something, man, he really gets
• 1:21:57
  obsessed with it. But I thought his last video was
• 1:22:01
  was really good. It's where it's worth going to
• 1:22:03
  watch. I think it's 100.
• 1:22:05
  I think he underestimated how many or understated how many
• 1:22:08
  hours he spent on that. Like he built out a freaking
• 1:22:11
  this statistical model in ChatGPT.
• 1:22:15
  And dude on. I like putting in like stats of
• 1:22:18
  all these people he faced in live competition with the work
• 1:22:21
  at with the movements and then like.
• 1:22:23
  I think it's accurate too, man. I think it's more accurate than
• 1:22:26
  he even knows, and that's where I'll leave that.
• 1:22:32
  I for me, you know. Something wrong?
• 1:22:35
  No, I don't know anything. Don't seem like you know.
• 1:22:39
  Anything. October 8th?
• 1:22:40
  Nope. Moving on next he was.
• 1:22:41
  The 7th, but anyway. I just wanted to say that while
• 1:22:47
  I want to be done with it, it's it's a mystery, it's a murder
• 1:22:51
  mystery. And I have to know the answer if
• 1:22:53
  he did it, if he did cheat that much.
• 1:22:57
  And I think the answer is yes. But like I have to see, I have
• 1:23:00
  to see the reveal. Fair enough, I did look at the
• 1:23:03
  fun fact I saw. I did look at one of his bass
• 1:23:07
  fishing competitions. He got last place in that too.
• 1:23:11
  Didn't catch a fish? That's that's that's that's a
• 1:23:14
  low blow spin, I mean. Is it though?
• 1:23:17
  Yeah. Lee Frazier, thank you for the
• 1:23:21
  Super sticker and Oswaldo, Oswaldo Gonzalez, Congrats.
• 1:23:25
  Thanks for becoming a new member.
• 1:23:27
  Appreciate. It Oswaldo welcome.
• 1:23:28
  I need you to change your last name to Mulberry.
• 1:23:32
  It's an inside joke. If you get it, I love you, and
• 1:23:35
  if you don't, you don't. Which frog grips do you
• 1:23:38
  recommend slash use and why? The elite ones, The sticky ones,
• 1:23:43
  The chocolate. Sticky ones, the chocolate ones,
• 1:23:46
  I would say. I would say the.
• 1:23:47
  Chocolate. Definitely those.
• 1:23:50
  I would get both. They're both like, I really like
• 1:23:54
  the sticky ones, but in some sort of situations they're not.
• 1:23:56
  If you're in a gym, if you're in an affiliate that has pull up
• 1:24:00
  bars, it has chalk all over the pull up bars, those will not be
• 1:24:04
  the best solution for you. So depends on what your
• 1:24:08
  situation is. A lot of people don't like the
• 1:24:12
  sticky ones on the rings, I really do.
• 1:24:15
  Fair enough. What are the best running shoes
• 1:24:18
  for the the intermediates and CrossFit?
• 1:24:22
  First of all this this I have to answer this one.
• 1:24:26
  Just goes to. I'm not answering this.
• 1:24:28
  Did you if did you watch the The World Fitness Project discussion
• 1:24:33
  of the workouts? You could have stopped at World
• 1:24:35
  Fitness Project. Fair Will on it said that he did
• 1:24:41
  not program overhead squats or squat snatches in the first
• 1:24:44
  workout where it's like 800 meter run and muscle ups and
• 1:24:48
  snatches. It could be power because it was
• 1:24:50
  600 meter runs because the athletes like to wear all these
• 1:24:54
  running shoes. You know the the poofy running
• 1:24:58
  shoes. When did we get to a point where
• 1:25:02
  athletes have to wear giant puffy running shoes for 600
• 1:25:08
  freaking meters? Dude, when did we get to the
• 1:25:11
  point where you don't program things because of what the
• 1:25:14
  athletes like to do? That's also a good.
• 1:25:16
  That is the softest thing I've ever heard from.
• 1:25:22
  Not from the athlete like I like athletes.
• 1:25:25
  I don't care what you do. You can see I would do that
• 1:25:27
  workout with with 275 snatches. OK, I would do that workout in
• 1:25:33
  running shoes because it's more comfortable for me to run and I
• 1:25:37
  can snatch with them. I'm good enough about that.
• 1:25:39
  No, Bryson, I know, I know, but I'm I'll get to the right point.
• 1:25:44
  But as a programmer, you don't care about anybody.
• 1:25:50
  You program the workouts with nothing in mind.
• 1:25:53
  But what is the test testing like?
• 1:25:57
  It is. That's the softest thing I've
• 1:26:00
  ever heard from somebody programming a workout like it.
• 1:26:04
  It it that's wild that that was his response.
• 1:26:08
  I'm going to. I'm going to.
• 1:26:11
  I'm going to beat him up. You know what?
• 1:26:12
  Yeah, that's how I. Feel.
• 1:26:14
  I mean like it was. It was.
• 1:26:16
  That'd be like for me saying I don't want to, I don't want
• 1:26:18
  running with a a squat snatch workout because I have to wear
• 1:26:21
  lifters. Nobody's going to do that for
• 1:26:24
  me. Right.
• 1:26:26
  And I tell people all the time there's that's the reason.
• 1:26:29
  Like I get asked that a lot because I don't wear lifters.
• 1:26:31
  People never see me in lifters. When we got the Lu Xiao Jung
• 1:26:33
  shoes, I was like, guys, I can't do this because I failed a 245
• 1:26:37
  snatch in the lifters because I'm forward, because I don't, I
• 1:26:42
  never wear lifters ever. It's because if a workout has
• 1:26:46
  running in it, I want to be able to run and still lit.
• 1:26:49
  Like if I should never need lifters if I have to lift heavy
• 1:26:52
  within a workout, right? And if I'm dependent on lifters
• 1:26:56
  when I work out, what am I going to do whenever a workout has
• 1:27:00
  heavy lifting in it? Just feel off and fail stuff.
• 1:27:04
  You shouldn't have any business feel failing.
• 1:27:07
  And so like I'm kind of anti lifter for that reason when it's
• 1:27:11
  not Olympic lifting, we're not in the sport of Olympic lifting,
• 1:27:14
  we're in the sport of CrossFit, right?
• 1:27:17
  So yeah, go ahead, Tyler. When, when Spin, when we were at
• 1:27:24
  Mayhem, Spin made the observation that all the
• 1:27:26
  athletes in, in workout 1 during the run were wearing running
• 1:27:31
  shoes. And he was like, that's so soft.
• 1:27:33
  Because like, it wasn't very long.
• 1:27:35
  Now I will say I wore running shoes when I did it and I was
• 1:27:39
  very happy that I did. I just.
• 1:27:41
  Noticed I wore running shoes. I wore running shoes when I did
• 1:27:43
  it. I don't care if you're an
• 1:27:45
  athlete. I don't care what you run in,
• 1:27:46
  like or lift in. I don't care what you wear at
• 1:27:49
  all, it's the programmer should never program with that in mind.
• 1:27:53
  But I, but I was watching the athletes do the sandbag squats
• 1:27:57
  and like you could see, you could see them squishing and it
• 1:28:01
  was like their, their heels were moving like it was not stable.
• 1:28:05
  And like, when did we get to a point where we can't run like 10
• 1:28:11
  years, 10 years ago? Out the woodworks here.
• 1:28:13
  Look at JY Barbie. Go hit me up.
• 1:28:18
  Like. You'll never wear lifters again.
• 1:28:20
  13 years ago when I found her, 14 years ago when I found
• 1:28:23
  CrossFit, it was like minimalist, like people are
• 1:28:25
  wearing the five finger shoes and like, don't you know, you
• 1:28:29
  don't need anything. You don't want to wear the big
• 1:28:31
  poofy shoes. Like we don't need to run in
• 1:28:33
  these. Like it's not good for you.
• 1:28:35
  And now it's I can't run 600 meters without wearing Hokas.
• 1:28:40
  Like that's crazy. Like tough enough.
• 1:28:45
  I. We have a different feeling
• 1:28:49
  about this. If you're going for a five mile
• 1:28:52
  run, go for it. Fine, I.
• 1:28:53
  I if you're running for six. 100 meters drones, 600 meters here.
• 1:28:57
  Here's the difference. This is coming from a runner.
• 1:28:59
  From a runner, you have a, you have a runner's outlook on this,
• 1:29:02
  right? I don't think it does.
• 1:29:05
  You are running. No, no.
• 1:29:07
  No, no, I understand. I can run 600 meters in Medcon
• 1:29:10
  just fine. But I want to wear my runners
• 1:29:14
  and I will do everything in the runners no problem.
• 1:29:17
  I will do all the sandbags. While you can't squat snatch on
• 1:29:21
  on the. Turf with the runners.
• 1:29:22
  Because it's they wouldn't like to do it.
• 1:29:25
  No, I'm saying I would because I would rather run in my runners
• 1:29:28
  and snatch in runners. But I'm saying if you don't like
• 1:29:33
  that, if you don't like, if you have to wear like a metcon, then
• 1:29:36
  run in metcons. I don't care what shoes you, you
• 1:29:39
  can wear the same. I don't care.
• 1:29:40
  The shoe thing doesn't bother me.
• 1:29:43
  But make a decision, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:29:46
  Well, it bothers me so. So we're talking.
• 1:29:49
  About it, that's right. As for the running shoes, I
• 1:29:53
  don't know, just. Maybe you should snatch in
• 1:29:56
  running shoes and see how you feel.
• 1:29:59
  Or do you need it? For me, I wouldn't like it.
• 1:30:03
  It's. The same thing like lifting and
• 1:30:06
  lifters versus running and runners is the exact.
• 1:30:09
  Same. It's the principle of the
• 1:30:10
  matter. John, it's not a bad thing.
• 1:30:12
  That's. Right, when are we getting a
• 1:30:15
  tapestry of fitness shirt vindicate?
• 1:30:18
  If you're watching, let's work on.
• 1:30:20
  That would be that would be cool.
• 1:30:21
  We would probably should come up with a mountain though, like
• 1:30:24
  we're going to do mountain with faces or like it'll.
• 1:30:26
  Be like a Patagonia RIP off. We've already done that.
• 1:30:31
  Yeah, somebody's done that. I guess it would.
• 1:30:33
  Just be the the outline of a mountain and then with that,
• 1:30:36
  with that. Rich, I'm sure we can come up
• 1:30:39
  with something that's great and then John can buy 600 of them
• 1:30:42
  for Will. Roy, I'm just going to let him
• 1:30:47
  sell those. I'm.
• 1:30:48
  Not we're hoping to win the games.
• 1:30:51
  Roman. No.
• 1:30:54
  Really make the games. Yes, yes, he's about to this
• 1:30:57
  weekend and he's going to be in the running.
• 1:31:00
  He's going to be in the running to win the games.
• 1:31:02
  When I say no, I'm not saying that like he's got no shot.
• 1:31:07
  He has a 100% and he's got a shot.
• 1:31:10
  He is in the running to win the games.
• 1:31:12
  I just don't think that he will. Like Bryson?
• 1:31:17
  On my team, look at. That they should all wear
• 1:31:21
  runners. No they shouldn't.
• 1:31:22
  They should also squat snatch in them.
• 1:31:25
  Sure. The programmer shouldn't give a
• 1:31:27
  shit either way. I agree with the last two.
• 1:31:31
  I don't agree with the first sentence.
• 1:31:32
  I think you guys should be able to run in a pair of like.
• 1:31:37
  There aren't any really minimalist shoes.
• 1:31:39
  Like Rich probably wears the most minimalist shoes of anybody
• 1:31:42
  out there anymore. Like the tears that I wear are
• 1:31:46
  not minimalist. Like they are not even close to
• 1:31:48
  like the old innovates. And hey, why don't you?
• 1:31:50
  Why don't you run running lifters, then spin?
• 1:31:54
  Well, I'm saying to go the other way, John.
• 1:31:57
  I'm saying to go less. No, you're all bent up at you're
• 1:32:01
  all bent out of shape about it. Why don't you just run in
• 1:32:03
  lifters, let's say. Hey, how about you and me to?
• 1:32:05
  Not a Nancy, I'm not. Saying, hey, you know the, you
• 1:32:08
  know the workout, Nasty Nancy. Yes.
• 1:32:11
  Nasty Nancy, the one they did for the games, Let's all do
• 1:32:14
  that. And we'll all wear different
• 1:32:15
  shoes. Tyler can wear metcons, I'll
• 1:32:17
  wear runners, you can wear lifters.
• 1:32:18
  And I'm not saying. To wear lifters.
• 1:32:20
  And we'll see who wins that workout.
• 1:32:22
  Let's see what happens I the all red spots are too much.
• 1:32:26
  Dude, that workout's a monster. I've done Nasty Nancy and
• 1:32:29
  Lifters. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:32:33
  I'm winning that work out of US three.
• 1:32:35
  You know what? I think Bryson would tear me up
• 1:32:38
  in that work out. But for you 2, I feel very good
• 1:32:41
  about it. And we'll all wear different
• 1:32:43
  juice. We'll make a video.
• 1:32:44
  Out of it and they were early Reebok lifters that weren't the
• 1:32:48
  best lifters so. All right, that's it, moving on
• 1:32:53
  top to him. All right.
• 1:32:55
  I'm done with done with you guys moving on knew we have a new I
• 1:32:58
  liked that game last week. So we're I play a new, I do too
• 1:33:01
  a new game. Even though I was shit at it.
• 1:33:03
  It was, I mean, it was hard. Tell me this one isn't as hard.
• 1:33:08
  Yeah, the topic, it's only one. It's only one.
• 1:33:11
  We are sticking with regionals and semifinals.
• 1:33:14
  He likes doing that because I can't know everything.
• 1:33:16
  It's the semifinals season, so that's what you get this time,
• 1:33:22
  not wins. It is.
• 1:33:26
  Last places. The total number of events that
• 1:33:29
  they have competed in, it's like a longevity thing.
• 1:33:33
  What is? Who has been in the most?
• 1:33:36
  I might be better at this, yeah. So this is.
• 1:33:40
  OK, OK, OK, OK. How many regional semifinal
• 1:33:44
  events have they participated in?
• 1:33:47
  Top ten list. So we just name names.
• 1:33:51
  Yeah, start off again. Is this men and women?
• 1:33:53
  Men and women combined. All.
• 1:33:56
  Makes it I'll I'll give you I'll give you a hint.
• 1:33:58
  All of them have over 64 total events.
• 1:34:04
  I think, I think women are going to be, I think it's going to be
• 1:34:06
  more women than men. Yeah, so Ben Smith is the first
• 1:34:11
  one. That is correct.
• 1:34:15
  Number one with 70. Yeah, 70.
• 1:34:19
  Events. He's obviously tied with Andy,
• 1:34:21
  Thor's daughter. No, that's incorrect.
• 1:34:26
  But she's on the list. No Tia Toomey.
• 1:34:35
  John's got a strike. I don't like, I don't, I don't
• 1:34:41
  like this. I don't like this at.
• 1:34:44
  All we got. Ben's been hold on, hold on, not
• 1:34:46
  Tia Toomey. That makes me think like, I
• 1:34:48
  don't I, I feel weird saying Matt Fraser.
• 1:34:53
  Matt Fraser. Nope.
• 1:34:58
  What is this list? Miss Ben got my second guess.
• 1:35:02
  Cara OK, so we just need to stick with we just need to stick
• 1:35:05
  with old people then, no? Cars Cara's not on the list.
• 1:35:09
  No. Holy.
• 1:35:10
  OK John, we got to get it together here.
• 1:35:12
  I got 2 strikes on me. Noah.
• 1:35:21
  Noah Olson, Yeah. Yes, Noah.
• 1:35:23
  Noah is on the list. I feel like I have to turn the
• 1:35:26
  comments off. Down there tied for 6th all.
• 1:35:30
  Right. Don't, don't look at the
• 1:35:32
  comments, Tyler. You can make them.
• 1:35:33
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Turn them off, John.
• 1:35:39
  They're not. They're not that great.
• 1:35:40
  I said Noah. I was at Noah.
• 1:35:41
  They're like a 50. 50 split on on how good they are in the
• 1:35:44
  comments. Sam Briggs.
• 1:35:50
  That's crazy. No, we're just, we're just going
• 1:35:52
  back and forth. We're just going back and forth
• 1:35:54
  now. There's.
• 1:35:55
  Just a lot lot lot of not knowing.
• 1:36:00
  Jonakowski. Jonah.
• 1:36:02
  He's got to be on the list. No.
• 1:36:07
  This is wild. Rich Froning.
• 1:36:11
  It's cool. No.
• 1:36:12
  Oh my God. Rich competed an individual for
• 1:36:16
  five seasons. Cole Sager.
• 1:36:21
  Yeah, there you go. Thank God we're on the board.
• 1:36:26
  Cole Sager typed forth with 66. I'm going to tell you right now,
• 1:36:29
  this list is stupid. Most semifinal events, who's
• 1:36:39
  like the longest besides Ben Smith that's been around, We're
• 1:36:43
  just going. To go back and forth OK Tyler,
• 1:36:45
  like we're. I'm.
• 1:36:46
  Trying I I know, I know. We can't.
• 1:36:48
  We can't help each other though. Terry.
• 1:36:53
  Yeah. Oh, it's an amazing pool.
• 1:36:56
  Amazing. It is.
• 1:37:00
  Or Terry. I kind of want to say Catherine.
• 1:37:08
  Yes, Catherine is on the list. Third.
• 1:37:10
  How is Annie not on the list and Catherine is?
• 1:37:12
  She's not Andy got pregnant 69 Appearances are like events for
• 1:37:17
  Catherine, David's daughter. My boy Travis Mayer.
• 1:37:22
  Cool, no? He went to fucking sanctionals
• 1:37:27
  dude. He dude this.
• 1:37:29
  Is regionals and semifinals. That should count.
• 1:37:34
  Hold on, hold on. It's my turn.
• 1:37:35
  It's my turn, you said. Travis Mayer, BKG.
• 1:37:40
  Yes, he's tied for 6th with Noah.
• 1:37:46
  Are all of these people good? Yes.
• 1:37:48
  So we'll get there eventually, OK?
• 1:37:51
  Maybe. Brent Fukowski.
• 1:37:54
  Yeah, also tied with BKG. Kristen Holti.
• 1:38:01
  No, no, the South South African queen is not on the list.
• 1:38:06
  Norwegian Queen. Now you know where she's from,
• 1:38:10
  huh? Three more.
• 1:38:16
  All right. How many men and how many women?
• 1:38:18
  Two men, one woman. Yeah, we need it.
• 1:38:20
  Yeah, we need to weigh more men than women, OK.
• 1:38:25
  It is. No, this is gonna be wrong.
• 1:38:35
  Dan Bailey. No, it's not, Kel.
• 1:38:43
  Lehman, HWPO athlete Kel Lehman. All right, my favorite girl
• 1:38:51
  back. Avoid Miller.
• 1:38:53
  Yeah. Him I'm.
• 1:38:55
  Just trying to think of people who always been in it forever.
• 1:39:00
  Can you give us a region? Not here, not not a region.
• 1:39:06
  Just give us a hint, whatever hint you want to give us.
• 1:39:09
  Let that be the region. She came back after years of not
• 1:39:14
  qualifying. For the games, it's not Cara.
• 1:39:25
  No, we already guess Cara hears of not qualifying Sarah
• 1:39:39
  Sigmund's daughter. Oh, oh, I think I'm This is why
• 1:39:44
  you didn't say the region. Yeah.
• 1:39:48
  Am I right? Probably.
• 1:39:50
  Maddie Sturt. No.
• 1:39:52
  Oh. God Dang it I thought I had it.
• 1:39:54
  Dude she did semi finals like first ever.
• 1:39:59
  She's up there. And no masters bullshit.
• 1:40:05
  Or even I think, hey, hey, hey, give us.
• 1:40:07
  Give us a time. Give us a time.
• 1:40:09
  Give us another. Hint A time frame.
• 1:40:11
  Give us a time frame. I mean, they're all in the early
• 1:40:16
  to late state. They have to be like the start
• 1:40:19
  of it through. OK.
• 1:40:22
  Like 21 Like they have to be Lucas Hogberg, no?
• 1:40:35
  All right, We we're going to have to get like two more
• 1:40:37
  guesses apiece. She lives in Hawaii.
• 1:40:41
  China Cho. Yes, 6th place.
• 1:40:44
  It was my turn, Tyler. Sorry oh you guys have lost all
• 1:40:49
  this was. All credibility.
• 1:40:51
  For a disaster. Dude, this is this is a stupid
• 1:40:54
  list. This one, this guy is what
• 1:40:58
  should we have? They're two guys trying to think
• 1:41:02
  of a good hint for you. He's banned.
• 1:41:09
  Currently banned. Is he in America?
• 1:41:12
  No. Jason Smith.
• 1:41:14
  Yes, in fourth with 66. How are we missing the number
• 1:41:21
  with tie? Through the number.
• 1:41:22
  One place and it's a male. Are you, are you surprised we
• 1:41:29
  haven't thought about it? Yeah, no, this one's tough.
• 1:41:32
  Is he old? Yes.
• 1:41:34
  Is he small Sam dancer? No, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:41:37
  Is he small? He's not in the States.
• 1:41:40
  He's an international athlete. OK Dang it, the Internet.
• 1:41:46
  I was thinking spieler for a minute but.
• 1:41:50
  When you think about it, this guy has 70 appearances, 70
• 1:41:54
  events. Each one is probably six years.
• 1:41:57
  That's like 12 appearance. Like it's 12 events.
• 1:42:02
  European, European or Australian?
• 1:42:04
  Australian. Newberry.
• 1:42:07
  It is. Oh, OK.
• 1:42:10
  James Newberry. I was going to go Rob Forte, but
• 1:42:12
  yeah. He's Dude, this is an out.
• 1:42:13
  Wow. This is the most round of Castle
• 1:42:16
  Gars. No, you had.
• 1:42:18
  OK, You saw this week. You got out like this is.
• 1:42:22
  Yeah. What do we have?
• 1:42:24
  To do I thought you'd at least get like start gaming names that
• 1:42:26
  were been there forever, but like we.
• 1:42:28
  Did. But they were like names that
• 1:42:30
  were just under forever. There is who else has competed
• 1:42:38
  in 60 plus events. There's three other women,
• 1:42:42
  Maddie Sturtz one of them. She has 60 events, two other
• 1:42:47
  women. We haven't, and we haven't said
• 1:42:49
  them. Yeah.
• 1:42:51
  Are they foreign One's? One's in North America, one is
• 1:42:53
  in Asia. Oh, Asia is, is it Sayhar Kaya?
• 1:43:00
  Asia, Asia, Asia woman. Do we know her?
• 1:43:04
  I'm sure you do, John. OK, so then it's not some young
• 1:43:08
  toy, No, is it back in the day Asia?
• 1:43:12
  Yes. Dude, oh man, that's OK.
• 1:43:16
  I don't like it already. I'm out.
• 1:43:21
  I don't know any of the the Asian athletes.
• 1:43:23
  What's the other one? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:43:24
  You focus on North America and I'm just going to kind of rattle
• 1:43:27
  my brain on Asia for a minute. Asia.
• 1:43:31
  Asia. Who is Asian and they're not
• 1:43:36
  good, right Spin. They're fine.
• 1:43:39
  They're fine. Good as any.
• 1:43:43
  Don't like that? But it's not something you'd be
• 1:43:46
  like, oh, man, yeah, that's definitely.
• 1:43:48
  Yeah, one guest gone. John, I'm, I'm, I'm out.
• 1:43:54
  Wow. It's not, it's not Jamie
• 1:43:57
  Simmons, right? That's she's New Zealand.
• 1:43:59
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know if you were going
• 1:44:01
  to like UAE on me or not. No, no, do it not.
• 1:44:04
  No tricks. The North American top athlete
• 1:44:11
  has gone by two names. Yeah.
• 1:44:22
  Come on, Tyler. I'm out.
• 1:44:27
  Come on. We need, we need to move.
• 1:44:29
  I'm trying to focus on Asia dude.
• 1:44:31
  I'm never. Going to get Asia.
• 1:44:33
  You told me that I would know Asia.
• 1:44:36
  Yeah, I don't think you'll get it, though.
• 1:44:38
  What if I give you the name? I think if I give you the name,
• 1:44:41
  you'd be like, Oh yeah, I know her, but I don't think you're
• 1:44:43
  going to be like able to just come.
• 1:44:46
  Up. All right, all right, all right.
• 1:44:47
  Well, then, let's go to North America.
• 1:44:48
  Give us a hint on North America. She's gone by two different
• 1:44:51
  names. Cassie Lance Mcquarter.
• 1:44:54
  No. No, she she had one name and
• 1:44:56
  changed it later. Bethany Flores Shadburn.
• 1:44:59
  No. Freaking give us something else.
• 1:45:08
  She's been to the. Games the last four years.
• 1:45:13
  Camille LeBlanc resume. The last four.
• 1:45:17
  Years. I was just thinking of double
• 1:45:18
  names that are good. Is it?
• 1:45:21
  Ariel, Ariel Armstrong, Ariel Lowe and 63.
• 1:45:27
  I would have never gotten that. Dude, I forgot Erin Armstrong.
• 1:45:32
  That's dude she's been mowing forever to me.
• 1:45:34
  And the last one, I'm just going to say it because we need to
• 1:45:37
  run. We we can give 3 minutes to
• 1:45:39
  Wadland Yuko Sakuyama. I never.
• 1:45:46
  I've I've I've seen it. Hey.
• 1:45:48
  Shout out Yuko. Yuko crushing it out there.
• 1:45:52
  I would never, I would never go with that one.
• 1:45:54
  Yeah. Japanese athlete.
• 1:45:56
  There you go. That was it.
• 1:45:58
  Top ten. That was a disappointing.
• 1:46:00
  That was that was a bummer. Sorry.
• 1:46:02
  I thought you guys would get it, but not so.
• 1:46:06
  Much been much better at Bryant Blend rankings where there's no
• 1:46:09
  consequences. That's true.
• 1:46:13
  Last topic, Wadlin Fest starts on Friday.
• 1:46:19
  That is the list of men competing.
• 1:46:22
  If you want to count the number of rows, I think it's 32.
• 1:46:25
  I think if I counted correctly, 64 athletes.
• 1:46:29
  However, Michael Wazlowski and Fabian the Benito are out so.
• 1:46:37
  Ronnie Waslowski made the games for.
• 1:46:39
  Yes. So those guys have both
• 1:46:42
  withdrawn. I believe Fabian was injured
• 1:46:44
  during mayhem if I remember. Do you guys want to do this like
• 1:46:49
  this, like annual, annual Akai Jonikowski and Roman Kronikoff,
• 1:46:54
  that's going to be everybody's top three.
• 1:46:55
  Do you guys want to just say your top three in order of those
• 1:46:58
  three guys? Not yet.
• 1:47:04
  And then on the women's side, I want, I want to do something a
• 1:47:05
  little bit different. On the women's side.
• 1:47:09
  There's a whole bunch. There's actually 66 on here.
• 1:47:11
  Sarah, Sigmund's daughter, will not be competing at Wadlin Fest.
• 1:47:16
  She out. She is out.
• 1:47:17
  She will be competing at Rebel, Rebel, Renegade Games.
• 1:47:22
  Yeah, she got a special invite there because she lives in UAE.
• 1:47:27
  Let me go over here. I want to go event by event on
• 1:47:33
  those, at least on the men, on the women's side, oh boy, I I
• 1:47:37
  don't know. I mean, women's side, I think
• 1:47:39
  it's who is on there. I mean, it's Jennifer Muir.
• 1:47:44
  It's. Lucy Campbell.
• 1:47:45
  Lucy Campbell, Fuliano Cranfreyova is very fit.
• 1:47:49
  But neither of those last two you said can't qualify.
• 1:47:51
  Can't. Go to I I know, but like we're
• 1:47:53
  talking about event wins like you know over there I thought
• 1:47:58
  there was one more good girl. I mean something young toy and
• 1:48:02
  not to win, but like she's she's decently fit like she.
• 1:48:06
  I think she'll be right up in the top ten.
• 1:48:07
  She can, yeah. I think that and that might.
• 1:48:10
  Be it Emily Lundberg, she almost qualified out of Europe last.
• 1:48:14
  Year Andrea Solberg. I know a lot of people like her.
• 1:48:16
  It's been included. Ella Wilkinson I think, could
• 1:48:19
  have a shot this year. Can she go to the Games?
• 1:48:21
  Why? Because she she's been snatching
• 1:48:23
  a bunch and you like the way it looks.
• 1:48:25
  No, I think she, I mean she was, she was doing pretty good last
• 1:48:27
  year. She did last year that she
• 1:48:28
  imploded on the last day. So I, I, I mean, I think the
• 1:48:33
  women is interesting. It's not even close to what the
• 1:48:36
  guys are. And So what I want to do is I
• 1:48:40
  want to take the look at the the workouts and the three guys and
• 1:48:44
  say which one does the worst out of each one.
• 1:48:47
  Of those three of the main 3. Of those 3, yes.
• 1:48:50
  So Yonokoski annual Makai and Roman Krinikov, Yes.
• 1:48:53
  Yep, 'cause I think those are the three we could probably all
• 1:48:56
  agree that we would say are the top 3 going so the first workout
• 1:49:00
  they're going two hours South of the the venue, the.
• 1:49:05
  Venue. Special run.
• 1:49:08
  A special run? Does that mean like it's uphill
• 1:49:10
  and stuff? No, it's on this bridge.
• 1:49:11
  It actually looks pretty cool. And so they'll run back and
• 1:49:15
  forth I guess and do some some sandbag squats.
• 1:49:19
  It actually looks cool. I wouldn't want to be on a bus
• 1:49:21
  for two plus hours. And then sit on a bus for two
• 1:49:24
  plus hours on the way back. Back and then you get to do the
• 1:49:27
  second workout. That sucks, but hey, either way.
• 1:49:32
  Do you want any more Be big? Is he in it?
• 1:49:35
  See, big isn't it? Do you want to move?
• 1:49:37
  Him or no, I don't think he's on caliber with those guys.
• 1:49:41
  I know annual Kai's like. I think for the purpose of this
• 1:49:43
  I want to say who's who's out who?
• 1:49:45
  Who is the one that does not? OK.
• 1:49:48
  And do well of those, yeah, of these three who does not do the
• 1:49:51
  best? I actually Daniel Yonakowski.
• 1:49:54
  No, you're wrong. He's going to win it.
• 1:49:57
  OK. Tyler, I think Roman wins it and
• 1:50:01
  I think I agree with with John. I think Yona is the one that's
• 1:50:06
  odd. Odd one out.
• 1:50:07
  OK, so so far on sandbag squat workouts, I think I'm a perfect
• 1:50:11
  two for two in calling how it's. 2 for two.
• 1:50:17
  Event 2 when they get back from their bus trip intervals, 2223
• 1:50:23
  of two legless rope climbs, a 26 meter handstand walk, and then
• 1:50:28
  in the remaining time a Max heavy rope double unders.
• 1:50:32
  That sounds terrible. It's wild.
• 1:50:34
  Still terrible to watch. You're gonna have lots of
• 1:50:38
  minutes of double unders. Was that?
• 1:50:42
  The rope that that Brent was using, it's not that one.
• 1:50:45
  Right. That's the Valentis, right?
• 1:50:47
  It's. The same one that they used at
• 1:50:51
  to your Wadapalooza. It's just that.
• 1:50:54
  Think like a Zeus rope. Like it's yeah, yeah.
• 1:50:56
  Just a heavy rope. Basically, who could double
• 1:50:59
  under the fastest I'm. Going to say annual Lokai is the
• 1:51:02
  last place in this one. Agreed I.
• 1:51:07
  Guess I, I, I mean, I think again, this one is another one
• 1:51:10
  for Roman. I think he'll have most time.
• 1:51:13
  I think Yona will. I actually think Yona will be
• 1:51:15
  right there with him time wise, but I think, I think, I think
• 1:51:20
  Roman's slightly quicker on the legless, but I think, I think
• 1:51:27
  Yono will be right there with him on this.
• 1:51:29
  I, I, I will still pick Roman to win it, but I think Yono will be
• 1:51:32
  right there with him with this. I think annual Kai's just not on
• 1:51:34
  their level and all this stuff. But dude, you if you.
• 1:51:37
  Have one of the worst high level workouts ever written.
• 1:51:41
  If you have 15 seconds you can rack up some dubs.
• 1:51:45
  They're going to have more than that, man.
• 1:51:48
  Ahead of the next second, Yeah, well, yeah.
• 1:51:50
  My guess is you're going to have a minute, a minute, minute,
• 1:51:53
  minute, and then two on the last one.
• 1:51:54
  Like it'll take a minute to do the the stuff and you'll.
• 1:51:58
  Get do you have to pirouette on the 12m handsome.
• 1:52:01
  One. I don't believe so 12.
• 1:52:02
  Meters is is 36 ish feet so 75 total feet.
• 1:52:09
  I don't, I no. I think it's I, I think it's
• 1:52:13
  just 36 feet. It's.
• 1:52:15
  Just 12 and 12. I think that's for women.
• 1:52:18
  I don't know. I don't know why it would be.
• 1:52:19
  Why would they put AI thought it would be down and back?
• 1:52:22
  You do 12 feet down, 12 feet back, 12 meters back.
• 1:52:25
  It seems like a lot. Why wouldn't you put 2 and 10?
• 1:52:28
  Does that seem like a lot of time?
• 1:52:29
  Does that seem like a lot of time on the?
• 1:52:32
  1st, that's my point. I don't, I don't think there's
• 1:52:33
  going to be a lot of time like you think on the heavy double,
• 1:52:36
  heavy rope double unders. So like if you have two leg
• 1:52:38
  lifts and you have 75 feet of handstand walking, I think
• 1:52:40
  you're going to have 30 seconds of double unders.
• 1:52:43
  No. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:52:48
  Especially as especially as you get to the third round.
• 1:52:51
  Well, like, and you're going to get tired, you know what I mean?
• 1:52:53
  Like, like maybe you have a minute and then you have like 45
• 1:52:56
  seconds and then 30 seconds, and then now you have a minute
• 1:53:00
  again. Like it's going to be less than
• 1:53:02
  people think. Yeah, that's crazy.
• 1:53:05
  I. It's a better workout when you
• 1:53:08
  look at it like that, right, Right.
• 1:53:09
  Spin. It's not like.
• 1:53:11
  No it still sucks. I don't like it at all.
• 1:53:13
  I don't want. I don't want Max double unders
• 1:53:16
  to. Determine.
• 1:53:16
  No, no, me neither. But it's not as much as you
• 1:53:18
  thought it was, is what I'm saying.
• 1:53:20
  Like, I don't know how I feel about workouts like this in
• 1:53:22
  general. It's like, I hate it when it's
• 1:53:24
  like you make one trip and you're done.
• 1:53:26
  You'd be better off just making this like 2 legs for rope crimes
• 1:53:30
  if it's 24 meter handstand walk and 48 double unders and do it
• 1:53:35
  for four rounds or whatever, however many rounds you want to
• 1:53:37
  do it. Like total time.
• 1:53:39
  That's it, just time. Or even Max Rep dubs in like or
• 1:53:45
  no, I guess you're right. Yeah, do.
• 1:53:46
  It no, no, no. And then have a 2 minute cap and
• 1:53:49
  then have a 2 minute cap and then you minute rest and then
• 1:53:52
  you go to the next interval just like that.
• 1:53:54
  I'm just saying 4 rounds. Yeah.
• 1:53:57
  OK. I'm tied with you on this.
• 1:53:59
  It's just it's. It's the same thing that
• 1:54:01
  happened at at at Copa Sur. I don't know, John, I don't
• 1:54:04
  think you watched it, but like the final event of Copa Sur was
• 1:54:08
  the elimination style. The people who did well on the
• 1:54:13
  the buy in the top to get into the top ten.
• 1:54:16
  And then the first interval after that, guess what?
• 1:54:19
  They did pretty well the entire time.
• 1:54:21
  Like you could just make the work out of it.
• 1:54:24
  Like there was no reason to drag that out.
• 1:54:25
  They could have had one work out with several rounds, call it a
• 1:54:29
  day or make it a chipper and it's done.
• 1:54:31
  There's no like making it just redo it over and over again.
• 1:54:35
  Doesn't change the results. Right?
• 1:54:38
  Like you're good at pistols, you're good at handstand walking
• 1:54:41
  or pirouettes at Copa sewer. This you're good at legless rope
• 1:54:45
  climbs, handstand walking and you know you have enough.
• 1:54:48
  You have more time in the double unders it.
• 1:54:50
  Who's programming this? Do we know it's not ma'am?
• 1:54:54
  I mayhem is assisting, I think in this one.
• 1:54:57
  That's why you have the two mayhem workouts or the two that
• 1:55:00
  the heavy Isabel and the Mayhem 3030 thirty.
• 1:55:05
  I think just like Norcal, they're letting whoever's
• 1:55:09
  running it also have like their flavor and I bet this is
• 1:55:12
  probably their flavor because Lolitas sponsored it.
• 1:55:16
  And so they're like, we want to work out and that's what they
• 1:55:18
  came up with and Rich and team are like.
• 1:55:22
  OK. Test 3 This is the Mayhem
• 1:55:27
  workout. I don't know why they're called
• 1:55:28
  it test 3, but anyway. Test.
• 1:55:31
  Roman wins this one out of the three.
• 1:55:34
  I'm going to go out on a limb and say Roman's going to be all
• 1:55:38
  right on this one. He'll be fine.
• 1:55:40
  It's a salt bike too. It's not the Echo bike.
• 1:55:43
  Yonokoski's last place in this. No, Yonokoski wins this of the
• 1:55:47
  three. And Yonah can.
• 1:55:49
  I think Yonah has the ability to do the bar muscle UPS unbroken.
• 1:55:53
  He's a biker dude. I.
• 1:55:54
  Don't think Aniel's going to be that much better on the bike
• 1:55:57
  than Yona. I think Aniel Okai's better at
• 1:56:00
  Bar Muslevs than you'd think. I think, Aniel, I'm going.
• 1:56:03
  To say I'm not like I say they don't do bad.
• 1:56:05
  I think Aniel's going to be third in this group.
• 1:56:08
  I'm going to say Yonokowski. It's third.
• 1:56:12
  Tyler. Yono's going to get first,
• 1:56:15
  Aniel's going to be. Last, other than Austin and
• 1:56:17
  Colton, show me the score. Second, yeah.
• 1:56:22
  All right, Tyler, show me he spent.
• 1:56:25
  All of his energy on that first one, the first time he did it.
• 1:56:29
  Show me, show me the small guy that did well on that on this
• 1:56:34
  test other than Colton and Austin.
• 1:56:37
  Those guys didn't grow up biking their entire life.
• 1:56:42
  It's a salt bike. Is different than.
• 1:56:45
  OK. I think Yona, I think Yona's
• 1:56:49
  going to do a Luke Parker and do all of the.
• 1:56:51
  Hey, hey, hey, then show me the Echo bike workout that Yona has
• 1:56:55
  done well in. All of them.
• 1:56:57
  I'm I'm not saying it's the echo bike, I'm saying.
• 1:56:59
  Tell me, Tell me one bar. Muscle UPS.
• 1:57:00
  I'm talking to bar muscle. I'm talking to Tyler.
• 1:57:03
  John's picking on me on the one thing that I don't know, which
• 1:57:05
  is any stats ever. The one thing I don't know is
• 1:57:12
  any stats idiom. Event for the Uma complex.
• 1:57:19
  One clean, one jerk. One hang clean, one jerk.
• 1:57:24
  Roman Aniol. Anya Yona Yona gets last.
• 1:57:30
  Yeah, Yona gets last. This isn't looking good for for
• 1:57:34
  Yona unless I'm right. I if I'm right, he's doing
• 1:57:37
  freaking great. Malaga nightmare 3 rounds, 8
• 1:57:41
  single double dumbbell devil press, 10 box step overs, 12m
• 1:57:45
  dumbbell overhead walking lunges.
• 1:57:47
  I believe it's £70 or 60 or 66. I just need to say this every
• 1:57:55
  time. Devil's presses are dumb.
• 1:57:58
  Annual. Annual.
• 1:57:59
  OK, I guess last place no. Agreed.
• 1:58:10
  I think Roman Roman takes this one.
• 1:58:13
  I actually the box step overs I. Think you know what?
• 1:58:16
  It's going to be really fast in this.
• 1:58:19
  I'm I'm not sure if Roman is the last one on this one.
• 1:58:24
  I I don't. I think Roman's just that much
• 1:58:26
  fitter than annual. Oh, the way it doesn't matter.
• 1:58:30
  Yeah. I'm going to say Roman on this
• 1:58:32
  one. I think Roman is, if he's going
• 1:58:34
  to have one, a bad event. This is it.
• 1:58:37
  And then the last one, which is not on here yet, is heavy.
• 1:58:40
  Isabel, Yona. On yo, is it Yona?
• 1:58:46
  Hold on, hold on, hold on. Time out, time out.
• 1:58:49
  No it doesn't. That's not a freaking Echo bike
• 1:58:54
  you idiot. Get them cross fat, you know
• 1:58:58
  what I'm talking about. I get that it's different.
• 1:59:02
  But hold on. Hold on.
• 1:59:04
  No how good did Saxon panchick do on bike to work?
• 1:59:08
  He got like 4th freaking place. Show me the workout that he does
• 1:59:11
  good on an echo bike. Power output is different than
• 1:59:14
  being a good biker. This is the worst comment I've
• 1:59:19
  ever seen. You're better than this.
• 1:59:23
  You're better than this cross fat I I know you don't like me.
• 1:59:26
  You do bad comments about me all the time.
• 1:59:28
  This is you are better than this.
• 1:59:31
  This is an egregious comment, OK, And I'm I'm going to wrench
• 1:59:37
  you up this next time you put a comment out like that's this
• 1:59:41
  dumb. Damn Crossfat.
• 1:59:43
  I feel like crossfat got hit. Perhaps you did skip a lap but
• 1:59:47
  they take your slowest lap and then they added it to it and he
• 1:59:49
  was like 4th place after that. Which wasn't fair.
• 1:59:57
  Is Spencer at this in this one? I don't know.
• 2:00:00
  It doesn't matter. He was invited, but I don't
• 2:00:06
  think he's he's busy. So he was, yeah, he was on the
• 2:00:12
  list, but he's not going doesn't.
• 2:00:15
  Want to terrible at the bike? Workout, Isabel.
• 2:00:21
  Do you agree, John Yonah? For Isabel.
• 2:00:25
  Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah. I don't look over yelling a man,
• 2:00:30
  dude. Like the only one we said, we
• 2:00:33
  said that he was like best at was me saying he he'd beat, he'd
• 2:00:39
  beat Aniel. I mean, I think he'll, I think
• 2:00:41
  he can win this workout right here.
• 2:00:44
  OK. I said that I think he can.
• 2:00:45
  OK. So does that mean?
• 2:00:50
  Does it mean Aniel and Roman are your two that advance?
• 2:00:56
  Which one did I say? Anya would be bad at the double
• 2:01:00
  under one? Yeah, dude, I think I'm going to
• 2:01:02
  say so. Yeah, I think I'm going to pick
• 2:01:04
  Roman and Daniel. And then I guess Yonah has to do
• 2:01:12
  it in the in affiliate semifinals, but that means he's
• 2:01:14
  going to go. Which he can.
• 2:01:16
  He's got to go the following week.
• 2:01:21
  Yeah, yeah. That does suck.
• 2:01:23
  I. That's less for for him than
• 2:01:25
  some other athletes that. Are I?
• 2:01:26
  I hope he does Norcal. That might be what he has to do.
• 2:01:31
  Can you imagine if Roman doesn't make it and have to go all the
• 2:01:33
  way back out to Mayhem and then be an affiliate semifinals?
• 2:01:37
  OK. All right.
• 2:01:40
  All right, we were done talking about that.
• 2:01:44
  He loves to compete. It's fine.
• 2:01:46
  He's got to adjust his training a little bit.
• 2:01:49
  Here's what I will say though about Roman and what what we're
• 2:01:53
  seeing and what we will see in the in the coming weeks.
• 2:01:56
  I don't like the same workout at multiple qualifying events.
• 2:02:03
  Oh my God. Well, it is different because we
• 2:02:07
  have so many athletes. We've never had a situation
• 2:02:09
  where the athletes are going to different places and doing the
• 2:02:12
  same events. We've had athletes always doing
• 2:02:15
  the same events like so regionals, there were all the
• 2:02:17
  same events because you didn't have those athletes doing them
• 2:02:20
  at other. Sanctionals, Yeah, Sanctionals
• 2:02:22
  in 2019 it was, yeah, they were flying all over the place.
• 2:02:25
  But they are all completely different, right?
• 2:02:27
  I don't like the same 2. I'm I'm with Tyler, I, I, I
• 2:02:31
  don't mind the same 2 events at all.
• 2:02:33
  I like the I like the two events.
• 2:02:36
  I do think it's skews heavy is about being one of them
• 2:02:41
  automatically skews you to having a light competition
• 2:02:45
  versus or a heavy competition. If you throw in a Max like this,
• 2:02:49
  they have, this is a heavy competition there.
• 2:02:51
  I guarantee you it's going to be strong people that come out of
• 2:02:53
  it if you don't, if you don't. Have £200 squats the the clean
• 2:02:59
  complex and is heavy Isabel this.
• 2:03:01
  Is A really like this if I was fit enough to make a
• 2:03:04
  competition? This.
• 2:03:06
  This would be the one, Tyler. I should have done that
• 2:03:08
  qualifier. I would have done it.
• 2:03:10
  You would have been out here. Like you said that like 6 times.
• 2:03:13
  I no, just Jeff just for this one, but I I you couldn't
• 2:03:17
  qualify. I Gary, I'd be Yeah, better than
• 2:03:19
  kale I'd saw anyway. Good.
• 2:03:24
  You're you're off, right? You're right anyway.
• 2:03:29
  And if you don't have a lifting a Max event, then it's kind of
• 2:03:32
  in the Isabel's you're heavy unless you have a lot of
• 2:03:35
  squatting or a lot of dead lifting and other other
• 2:03:38
  workouts, then it's kind of a light competition and you're
• 2:03:42
  going to have little cardio boys that make it, you know.
• 2:03:45
  I I again I like. Derogatory.
• 2:03:48
  I do like the idea of though of every competition having its own
• 2:03:51
  unique flavor. And if the programmers of
• 2:03:53
  Wildland Fest want to make it for all of the body weight
• 2:03:56
  ninjas, fine, We'll see if they get smoked by the heavy workout
• 2:04:02
  or the heavy competition, right? And like if we saw that year
• 2:04:06
  after year after year, like it would be interesting, right?
• 2:04:11
  Like you can see that, hey, if you program light, your guys
• 2:04:14
  suck at the games, right? And if you program super heavy,
• 2:04:18
  you probably suck too. You like, you need that good
• 2:04:20
  balance and you kind of see which one of those.
• 2:04:22
  We're the best program. That out of it, right?
• 2:04:24
  But it we've kind of made it, we've made it very, very
• 2:04:27
  similar. And it's not that I don't
• 2:04:28
  dislike any of the the programming so far.
• 2:04:32
  I don't like I don't like the final event of Copa sewer.
• 2:04:35
  I don't like the double under AMRAP this workout, but they're
• 2:04:39
  fine. So like, I think all of these
• 2:04:41
  three competitions, Mayhem, Copa Sewer and Wadlin Fester, all
• 2:04:46
  sending the right people or will send the right people.
• 2:04:49
  It's just I like the idea of having it different and we could
• 2:04:52
  see the variances in that. So we've we've run our time real
• 2:04:59
  quick. Melanie Hodge, before we go
• 2:05:03
  public, thank you to JY through JY Barbell for helping with my
• 2:05:06
  snatch technique. Baby steps, but so happy with
• 2:05:09
  the progress. Melanie's back.
• 2:05:11
  Thank you, Melanie. I appreciate that you're.
• 2:05:15
  Also, if you're going to be at Knoxville, at Syndicate Crown.
• 2:05:19
  You are going to be there. You will be the QR code down
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  there in the bottom left hand corner.
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  Scan that. Yeah, the other way you scan
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  that, it'll take you to competition corner to register
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  for one of the team divisions. And if you use Codespin 15% off
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  and. Not not trying to get tickets,
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  guys, It's going to be we're going to do a lot of stuff.
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  It's going to be really, really, really fun.
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  If you're fans of the show or fans of any any of the seven
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  verse or just just just CrossFit in general.
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  I know apparently a bunch of y'all can't stand us, but if
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  your fans have just CrossFit in general, we're going to make
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  this the most fun event that is being had as far as the semi
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  finals for for to get to the games.
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  I don't know who's competing. I you know, once the in
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  affiliate semi final happens, you know, I don't know who's
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  going to be there as far as competitors, but we are going to
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  make it the most fun semi final out of all the semi finals.
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  Come show up, we're going to be doing the pre show, the spin is
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  going to be doing the pre show and you can stand behind us, be
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  part of the the crowd and make. Bring signs, yeah.
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  There's going to be a live kill Taylor before an event.
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  I know Colton's going to do that if.
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  He live Jay White. Barbell, Isabel.
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  Yeah, and then we're going to do heavy Isabel right before the
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  pros go. And my goal?
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  Are you a challenger? My goal is to have a time to
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  beat that is hard to beat. Yeah, Vindicate.
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  Should we bring some of those fancy new Spin shirts?
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  Definitely vindicate.com. You can get the No Apologies
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  Spin shirt, Missus Spin will be there along with myself.
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  So we will all be there in Knoxville, so definitely join us
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  like MTV Live. That's exactly what the spin
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  will be like. Just like that.
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  I'm the I'm the Carmen Electra of, of of our crew.
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  And with that, John is the Carmen Electra.
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  I apologize to absolutely nobody.