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Duct Tape Your Spouse Episode · Microphone Monkeys

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SPEAKER_03: Here we come, walking down on the street.
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SPEAKER_03: Got the gold.
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SPEAKER_03: No flash is for me.
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SPEAKER_03: Free spring.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm free on the train.
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SPEAKER_03: Lock it down.
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SPEAKER_03: No need for one of the microphones.
1:24
SPEAKER_03: People say one of the kids from please.
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SPEAKER_03: One of the microphone monkeys.
1:35
SPEAKER_02: Hey guys, this is Microphone Monkeys.
1:37
SPEAKER_02: And today we have Dark Web Det Murray.
1:42
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
1:43
SPEAKER_02: And we have Mafia Mike.
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SPEAKER_02: No, you don't.
1:48
SPEAKER_02: I got a new job.
1:49
SPEAKER_02: I'm not here.
1:50
SPEAKER_02: Oh, Mafia Mike disappeared.
1:52
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
1:52
SPEAKER_01: Isn't he with the nurses?
1:54
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
1:54
SPEAKER_00: He's making porn.
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unknown: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Something to do with uh, you know, brass knuckles and nurse outfits.
2:02
SPEAKER_02: Very strange uh business he's gone in.
2:03
SPEAKER_00: I I admire him, man.
2:05
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be so cool.
2:07
SPEAKER_00: I can't wait to see his next films.
2:08
SPEAKER_02: Pimp Mike.
2:09
SPEAKER_01: Are you gonna do the lawsuit disclaimer?
2:12
SPEAKER_00: Because you might want to uh no one mic's not here, we don't have to.
2:17
SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, uh you guys are gonna talk over it anyway, so I just uh run it through the thing.
2:22
SPEAKER_00: I caught up.
2:23
SPEAKER_00: I have yeah, I've I've figured out how to how to avoid your uh your sabotage.
2:28
SPEAKER_01: We were talking about that earlier, about how sensitive you are, so I see.
2:31
SPEAKER_02: He's very sensitive.
2:33
SPEAKER_02: One thing, if anyone knows Will, is how sensitive he is.
2:36
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
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SPEAKER_02: Very sensitive.
2:37
SPEAKER_02: I am a flower.
2:38
SPEAKER_02: I am a flower.
2:43
SPEAKER_02: And we have the Hindu Meister himself.
2:50
SPEAKER_01: I'm kind of more of an omnist, so but yeah.
2:53
SPEAKER_02: See, that's that's a very Hindu thing to say.
2:55
SPEAKER_02: But I mean, yeah, exactly.
2:56
SPEAKER_02: It kind of is, isn't it?
2:58
SPEAKER_02: That's true.
2:59
SPEAKER_02: Hindus are basically omnisci.
3:01
SPEAKER_02: Well, some of them, yeah.
3:02
SPEAKER_02: They they take things from all cultures and views and incorporate them.
3:06
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
3:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the non-duality of it all.
3:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: See, very Hindu philosophy already.
3:12
SPEAKER_01: What was it?
3:13
SPEAKER_01: There you are, there you go.
3:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:16
SPEAKER_01: Or that's kind of like a rubanzai mix up.
3:20
SPEAKER_00: I was thinking, I was thinking of Darren the other night.
3:22
SPEAKER_00: I was watching some uh the uh temples out in Chiang Mai.
3:27
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
3:27
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
3:28
SPEAKER_00: I said, Oh, this is his jam, man.
3:30
SPEAKER_01: Let's go there together.
3:31
SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't know what we're waiting for.
3:33
SPEAKER_02: This is Darren's lifelong problem, is we think all Asian things like Buddhism and Taoism are Hindu.
3:39
SPEAKER_02: Well, see, the problem that I did for a year kind of are.
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SPEAKER_00: The problem when you go into YouTube and you you put in things for like Chiang Mai and and Chiang Rai and stuff like that, they keep bombarding my channel then with all the uh go-go girls and Bangkok and uh all that stuff in there.
3:58
SPEAKER_00: So they throw in all the other Thailand stuff.
4:00
SPEAKER_02: Should we let we'll know how the algorithms algorithms work, or are we gonna go with this story?
4:06
SPEAKER_02: I think he's working the algorithms.
4:08
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
4:08
SPEAKER_00: That's that yeah, that's gotta be it.
4:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Rhonda keeps popping up all the time twerking.
4:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what happened?
4:15
SPEAKER_00: Not because Darren keeps sending me these little rondas.
4:19
SPEAKER_00: I don't.
4:20
SPEAKER_00: I send you those.
4:21
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, you admit it.
4:24
SPEAKER_01: The 50 plus English Raver girl thing that I keep sending you.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm just stuck on that algorithm lately.
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SPEAKER_02: Algorithm terrorist getting guys in trouble all across the US.
4:38
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
4:39
SPEAKER_02: Is uh messenger sabotage.
4:42
SPEAKER_01: I can't even get into Messenger, it's locked me out, and I never go there because there's so much nonsense.
4:48
SPEAKER_01: It locked you out, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: There's some sort of passcode, and I'm like, look, I don't have time.
4:52
SPEAKER_01: And I can't go over here anyways because it's always a scam.
4:55
SPEAKER_00: How do you how do you converse with the Hof?
4:57
SPEAKER_00: Because he he has his SMS tech text turned off so he could have just Messenger.
5:02
SPEAKER_01: I just don't understand it.
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SPEAKER_01: I can't stand it.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like always some sort of fraudulent thing, you know.
5:07
SPEAKER_02: There, well, that's another on the algorithm you get the fake porn that's some hairy guy in Kazakhstan who sends you teen girl.
5:14
SPEAKER_01: What it is, but it's all I'm alone.
5:16
SPEAKER_01: And it's like I don't care.
5:18
SPEAKER_01: I don't care if you're alone, get a cat.
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SPEAKER_01: There's also a lot of that.
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SPEAKER_00: No, I you're a bird man.
5:23
SPEAKER_00: It would be get a bird.
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SPEAKER_01: No, there's yeah, that's not for them.
5:27
SPEAKER_02: Those don't really go together having a bird and a cat.
5:30
SPEAKER_01: Some people do it.
5:32
SPEAKER_02: That explains the cat hatred from Dared.
5:34
SPEAKER_02: I just put a cat.
5:36
SPEAKER_01: Look, I love animals, but I just I have a hard time connecting with those guys.
5:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but then we did our Zoom meeting the other day, and you had your Death Raven, uh parrot.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Yoda first.
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SPEAKER_02: Yoda was out.
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SPEAKER_02: The Yoda Meister.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm surprised you guys didn't hear uh Maple, who's in the unit down here in the window, yelling at you, the cat that's uh we're stopping in and taking care of for a little bit.
6:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I remember the dog who wouldn't let me pet him.
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SPEAKER_02: But uh forget the cat.
6:09
SPEAKER_00: Well, get get your gird, gird your loins for the end of November because I'm gonna have Ellie here.
6:15
SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So I like that.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, bring Yoda.
6:20
SPEAKER_02: We'll we'll see how they get along.
6:21
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't like the dogs.
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SPEAKER_01: He's he loves him.
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SPEAKER_01: He's pretty cool with dogs, actually.
6:26
SPEAKER_02: Really?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he he does he's been around a lot of dogs.
6:30
SPEAKER_01: So he's it's just people.
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SPEAKER_01: He's good with other birds too.
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SPEAKER_01: Even birds that don't like him, he's good with.
6:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's weird.
6:38
SPEAKER_01: But people, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, a lot of uh well well.
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SPEAKER_02: Speaking as the transition meister, speaking of birds and animals.
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SPEAKER_00: He's transitioning again.
6:50
SPEAKER_02: We are transitioning again.
6:51
SPEAKER_02: We're going full Bruce Jenner today.
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SPEAKER_02: We have 3D technology for birds.
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SPEAKER_02: So I'm starting with this because this is in Darren's wheelhouse.
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SPEAKER_00: Ah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Injured bird makes history as first to get two 3D printed beak prosthetics.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, two.
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SPEAKER_01: That's the kicker because usually it's the top one they replace.
7:12
SPEAKER_02: Is there a danger here?
7:13
SPEAKER_02: Now we're gonna have uh terrorist missile birds with 3D printed daggers.
7:18
SPEAKER_01: Uh I I think it's gonna be a while.
7:22
SPEAKER_02: I could see Darren uh that would be his form of libertarian terrorism, would be some sort of rocket bird.
7:28
SPEAKER_01: Hold on, hold on, because Palmer Palmer Lucky, the quote unquote, he was a libertarian guy that started Oculus and then went off to form a militarization company.
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SPEAKER_01: He has genetically modified military dogs.
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SPEAKER_01: So, and that was recently he just did a press release on this, or just did an announcement of what he's actually doing.
7:51
SPEAKER_01: Operation.
7:53
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we've got a ways to go before we're modifying the birds, but the prosthetics is a good start, a positive start.
7:59
SPEAKER_02: That is a modification.
8:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
8:02
SPEAKER_02: And we did have the Russian spy pigeons.
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SPEAKER_02: So it's maybe more advanced.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, pigeons are really good for all of this, actually.
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SPEAKER_02: When you can remote control a pigeon and strap a camera to their chest.
8:15
SPEAKER_01: They really, really are.
8:16
SPEAKER_01: And but and they're kind of in the bird world, they're they're kind of nasty.
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SPEAKER_01: They rape, they kill each other, lazy blood, and they start to go bonkers.
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SPEAKER_01: Pigeons.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, pigeons.
8:27
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and they're you know, I I actually like pigeons.
8:31
SPEAKER_01: I've had good encounters with them, but they're semi-domesticated.
8:35
SPEAKER_01: Let's go on with the prosthetics.
8:37
SPEAKER_02: Well, well, this is this is one impeccable performance.
8:44
SPEAKER_02: So this is the New York Post.
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SPEAKER_02: The New York Post always does it.
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SPEAKER_02: An injured bird in an Amsterdam zoo made history is the first in the world to receive two 3D printed beak prosthetics.
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SPEAKER_02: The Southern Ground Hornbill.
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SPEAKER_02: See, Darren knows what these things are, but I'm not quite sure.
9:02
SPEAKER_01: There's lots of hornbills, but yeah, I do.
9:05
SPEAKER_02: A hornbill.
9:06
SPEAKER_02: Well, it's kind of what he got, a hornbill.
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SPEAKER_01: Most hornbills, I'm pretty certain have huge beaks.
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SPEAKER_01: They hence the name.
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SPEAKER_02: They're this is a very long curved.
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SPEAKER_02: It's like one of those Indian curved samurai looking things.
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SPEAKER_02: It's like a spearfish.
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SPEAKER_02: The predator birds.
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SPEAKER_02: He now has custom made artificial beaks printed from plastic and attached with screws by surgeons to replace his upper and lower ones, which had both broken, affecting his quality of life and ability to eat.
9:42
SPEAKER_02: He looks like a cyborg killer bird.
9:45
SPEAKER_01: They look cool in general, but yeah.
9:47
SPEAKER_02: He's gonna he could take some eyeballs out.
9:49
SPEAKER_01: So you gotta figure they they screw that into the bone, right?
9:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
9:54
SPEAKER_01: They screw that into the bone.
9:55
SPEAKER_01: Kind of like they do with with people in their bones on their legs and stuff like that, or rebuild your knee.
10:01
SPEAKER_01: That's fantastic.
10:02
SPEAKER_01: I mean that's that's huge progress.
10:04
SPEAKER_01: That's good to see.
10:05
SPEAKER_02: Now, if if you took these Russian spy pigeons and put artificial curved stabby beaks on them, are these now artificial death killer pigeons?
10:16
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
10:17
SPEAKER_01: We'd have to you'd have to see how they relate to appendages that are normal to them.
10:23
SPEAKER_01: Right?
10:23
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's what you remove like loses a forearm, their brain's still sending signals as if that forearm is still there.
10:33
SPEAKER_01: And people will think they're actually moving it.
10:35
SPEAKER_01: When you put an artificial limb on, it's the shape of their normal limb, and they have control of it.
10:41
SPEAKER_01: You take an animal like that and you put on a different type of limb that their body and their brain's not made for, how are they gonna react?
10:49
SPEAKER_01: Well, I don't know.
10:50
SPEAKER_01: I mean, maybe I'm sure they've done experiments like this that we don't see now, but I who knows.
10:56
SPEAKER_00: Well, my my question that they left out of there is how did he lose his beak?
11:01
SPEAKER_02: That looks like a pretty tough little thing to Yeah, he he there was probably some sort of African death fight, and some poor animal got ripped apart by this, you know, peaceful loving bird.
11:14
SPEAKER_00: I didn't know if there was like little hornbill street gangs.
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SPEAKER_02: He had beak cancer.
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SPEAKER_02: So he had the thing.
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SPEAKER_02: Will was wearing uh a white lab coat talking about doing his own 3D appendages.
11:29
SPEAKER_02: So well, that's it.
11:30
SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be part of his new VHS series.
11:32
SPEAKER_01: Uh the the Palmer Lucky thing though is really interesting.
11:35
SPEAKER_01: It's like w there's a lot that can go wrong there.
11:37
SPEAKER_01: When you start genetically modifying like predators that are trained to harm, there's a lot that can go on.
11:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
11:48
SPEAKER_01: I thought vultures were the like meanest birds.
11:51
SPEAKER_01: Not at all, absolutely not.
11:52
SPEAKER_01: No, because they they go after scavengers, and and you know, I don't know about here, but the ones in California, they they they so they're so scared of people.
12:02
SPEAKER_01: And what they do when they're scared, this is really gross, they projectile vomit when they're scared.
12:07
SPEAKER_01: Vultures.
12:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
12:09
SPEAKER_01: That's how they try to get you to go away.
12:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they know they're petrified of us.
12:16
SPEAKER_00: Certain dates do that too.
12:21
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
12:25
SPEAKER_02: I had been vomited on before, and it wasn't inexpected or pleasant in any way.
12:32
SPEAKER_00: Had to clean up the sheets, did you?
12:35
SPEAKER_00: Man, I gotta get coming downhill.
12:39
SPEAKER_02: And it was someone both of you guys knew.
12:44
SPEAKER_00: Oh man, our brains are really going now.
12:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
12:50
SPEAKER_02: Although other birds have received one artificial beak, yeah, this is the first time two have been introduced.
12:57
SPEAKER_01: I think there's two cons.
12:58
SPEAKER_01: They did it with two cons, which have a really large top beak.
13:02
SPEAKER_01: Two cones replaced.
13:04
SPEAKER_01: And there's some like you need fruit loops.
13:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's some story on the web regarding, you know, crows pair for life for the most part.
13:14
SPEAKER_01: And there was one female that lost the top beak, and the male fed her the rest of her life.
13:20
SPEAKER_01: So and this is a story.
13:21
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if this is you don't know them personally, then.
13:25
SPEAKER_00: I never met them, no.
13:26
SPEAKER_01: But I mean, it's it's entirely possible.
13:28
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I w I did watch crows feed birds you'd think they would kill in captivity.
13:33
SPEAKER_01: They would just go right up to them and feed them.
13:36
SPEAKER_01: They take the ones that were too weak to go to the bowl to get food, they'd feed.
13:41
SPEAKER_02: Birds, because they're so small.
13:43
SPEAKER_02: They already have been social animals.
13:45
SPEAKER_02: They have some social intelligence and evolutionary.
13:49
SPEAKER_01: But think about it.
13:49
SPEAKER_01: If you're in a cage and you you don't know your resources, so you're gonna want to hoard your resources.
13:55
SPEAKER_00: So Randy's saying it's God-given.
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SPEAKER_01: It's the natural thing to do, is go, I'm gonna hoard my resources.
14:00
SPEAKER_01: It's all supernatural and god-given.
14:04
SPEAKER_02: So that that breaks the rules of a lot of that Darwinian alpha bullshit.
14:10
SPEAKER_02: What them getting along and having empathy?
14:12
SPEAKER_02: That's a social primate instinct.
14:13
SPEAKER_02: They're not primary.
14:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was gonna say they're we have.
14:18
SPEAKER_02: So that's a social, you know, avian instinct.
14:21
SPEAKER_01: Is it?
14:22
SPEAKER_01: I mean, if we're in a cage and our food is limited, are we gonna feed the weak?
14:26
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to find out.
14:28
SPEAKER_01: Bonobos do them.
14:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, bonobos help each other.
14:31
SPEAKER_01: They throw poo at each other.
14:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they all well, that's champs.
14:33
SPEAKER_00: It just depends on if people are attracted to it.
14:35
SPEAKER_02: Anyways, this is fun.
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SPEAKER_02: I like them.
14:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, if they want to mate with them later with their new knees, right?
14:40
SPEAKER_02: Don't feed the ugly.
14:42
SPEAKER_02: Well, speaking of Dr.
14:44
SPEAKER_02: Detmering, yes, there is a medical study that recently came out.
14:50
SPEAKER_02: Do you have a stuffy nose?
14:53
SPEAKER_02: Ejaculation can help, study suggests, but there is a catch.
14:58
SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
14:58
SPEAKER_02: Will was going into the details later from the study.
15:03
SPEAKER_00: He has some demonstrations to follow.
15:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
15:06
SPEAKER_02: He has some sort of film demonstration.
15:08
SPEAKER_02: Graham was here earlier.
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SPEAKER_02: Some sort of live stream, but not on Facebook.
15:14
SPEAKER_02: Uh that this is not a joke.
15:19
SPEAKER_02: Again, it's the New York Post.
15:21
SPEAKER_02: So they always start out with that.
15:22
SPEAKER_02: It's not a joke.
15:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because runny nose and running.
15:26
SPEAKER_02: When you're sick, trading bodily fluids may not be the best idea.
15:30
SPEAKER_02: And certainly having trouble breathing through your nose can make sexual intercourse tricky.
15:37
SPEAKER_02: But if you're all stuffed up and don't have any decongestant spray on hand, sinus have found some in-between the sheets action that could clear out your nostrils with a small caveat.
15:50
SPEAKER_01: Some cases real small.
15:53
SPEAKER_02: Some cases real small.
15:54
SPEAKER_02: That's where the 3D printer comes in.
15:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
15:56
SPEAKER_02: Oh uh ejaculation doesn't just feel good.
16:00
SPEAKER_02: There's also they uh they've also been shown to offer stress reduction, brain benefits, and even reduce cancer risk.
16:08
SPEAKER_02: And according to a small study published in Ear, Nose, and Throat Journal, clearing nasal congestion can be added to the list.
16:18
SPEAKER_00: You know, I I the one thing I have about this is uh uh it's it's talking about ejaculation, but it I I think it has more to do with orgasm.
16:29
SPEAKER_00: And it also can be for females because the females have a lot of positive of those positive things that go along with them.
16:38
SPEAKER_00: And I was watching a you know, one of those YouTubers on uh that that were on there about women's health, and they were saying that one of the one of her biggest problems was uh talking to her patients that were so against uh pleasuring themselves, and she's and they're alone.
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SPEAKER_00: She's like, but you know, female orgasms are very healthy and things like that.
17:04
SPEAKER_00: And of course, it's real hard for a guy to run around saying, Hey, females need more orgasms to chain that thing up, or to walk around and go, I'm really congested, I need to go outside and take a break.
17:16
SPEAKER_00: Now that that I think I can get away with, yeah.
17:21
SPEAKER_01: Excuse me, sir.
17:22
SPEAKER_01: Come with us, you're under arrest.
17:24
SPEAKER_02: This is a natural evolutionary way of dealing with things, so yeah.
17:31
SPEAKER_02: I believe don't stuffed nose.
17:33
SPEAKER_00: Come here, woman.
17:36
SPEAKER_02: A sore throat, yeah.
17:38
SPEAKER_00: Thump her on the top of the head and take her into the cave.
17:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, the Fred Flintstone School of Medicine.
17:43
SPEAKER_02: We had you know Archimedes was the mathematician.
17:51
SPEAKER_02: Who was the guy before uh oh Galen and uh and Hippocrates, yep, which was before Christianity.
18:00
SPEAKER_02: I don't know why Christians would be opposed to the you know self-masturbation.
18:05
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure most of them do them at it anyway.
18:07
SPEAKER_00: No, what what what are you talking about?
18:08
SPEAKER_00: I think you get con again isn't that you're no no no you're you're confusing Catholicism with Christianity, two different animals.
18:18
SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean that you know it's the same orbit.
18:22
SPEAKER_00: No, not even the same universe.
18:25
SPEAKER_00: Well, Ron White, the comedian Ron White, okay, said that his grandmother very serious about theological studies.
18:36
SPEAKER_00: This has to be volume.
18:37
SPEAKER_02: He said his grandmother said it would be better to plant your seed in the belly of a whore than masturbate.
18:45
SPEAKER_02: And he agreed.
18:46
unknown: Man.
18:47
SPEAKER_02: And asked her to maybe set that up for him.
18:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think there are yeah, there's some nuances to this.
18:54
SPEAKER_00: You know, usually I hate people to talk about nuance, but this time I think there's uh there's a little bit more to it.
19:00
SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't know what it has to do with the Catholics, but yeah, good good.
19:04
SPEAKER_02: I think he was evangelical.
19:06
SPEAKER_01: What in the damn nation is this?
19:08
SPEAKER_02: I know.
19:09
SPEAKER_02: Well, well, this is part of if you this helps us, you know, lower the stress level.
19:13
SPEAKER_02: Oh and uh Dr.
19:14
SPEAKER_02: Detmering, the teachers in Germany.
19:16
SPEAKER_00: Well you saw the movie uh from Monty Python, The Meaning of Life.
19:21
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I love that.
19:22
SPEAKER_00: I uh oh yeah and the life of Ryan.
19:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and they had the the contr the you know the kind of the uh the the black and white between the the family that was the uh Protestant family family who are like very very you know stuffy and everything else, but they're they're they're an I don't have to use a condom, you know, kind of like they flash over to the Catholic family, and there's this woman doing dishes, and all of a sudden plop between her legs flops another baby.
19:57
SPEAKER_02: Different cultures.
19:58
SPEAKER_02: Well, he was sticking to not using a condom, though.
20:00
SPEAKER_02: So well, no, those pr those Protestants are always a little more loosey-goosey, I guess.
20:06
SPEAKER_00: Well, I the the thing is that they're uh I guess the their their thing that was so funny is that Protestants are always shown as being so stuffy and I can use a condom and blah blah blah.
20:19
SPEAKER_02: And they are the ones with 90 kids.
20:22
SPEAKER_02: All I guess, you know, Mexicans and Italians.
20:27
SPEAKER_00: Protestants don't have the 90 kids.
20:29
SPEAKER_02: No, I that's what I mean.
20:30
SPEAKER_02: Catholic.
20:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
20:30
SPEAKER_02: Catholics have the 90 kids.
20:32
SPEAKER_02: That's why the Mexicans and Italians they always have 9 trillion kids.
20:36
SPEAKER_00: I guess that is a very Catholic that that is a interesting uh I guess once all the repression, once you get married, they just go Buck Wilde and I I well again, you know, it's the uh the outlook of the more liberal loosey-goosey uh socially people eyes seem to be the Catholics, and the more stuffy people were eyes the Protestants.
21:00
SPEAKER_00: That is interesting.
21:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like like the Pope has been the most left-wing uh the Baptists and all this.
21:06
SPEAKER_00: Again, Protestants Southern Baptists.
21:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
21:09
SPEAKER_00: Again, they're they're stuffy in a different way, but yet, you know.
21:13
SPEAKER_00: Um you know when when you how come uh Baptists don't see each other in the uh in the liquor store?
21:22
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
21:23
SPEAKER_00: Because uh when they go in, they don't look each other in the eyes.
21:31
SPEAKER_02: They they there does seem the evangelical Protestants have a little stuffy action going on.
21:36
SPEAKER_00: I I again I I think these are just mostly stereotypes, stereotypes, you know, sociological stereotypes and stuff like that.
21:47
SPEAKER_00: It's always fun, it's always fun to explore those.
21:50
SPEAKER_01: Did we offend anybody?
21:51
SPEAKER_00: Do you think with all if we haven't, we'll keep working at it.
21:54
SPEAKER_00: We'll keep working.
21:58
SPEAKER_00: Good to know.
21:58
SPEAKER_02: Good to know.
22:00
SPEAKER_02: But researchers in Germany, which are could you do some Deutschlish Vasustas?
22:06
SPEAKER_02: Vasustas.
22:07
SPEAKER_02: Put this in your Vasustas, uh, recruited 18 couples experiencing everyday stuffiness.
22:15
SPEAKER_02: And uh their first uh plan of action for the study was to see how stuffed they were when measured with self-reported rankings and a device called a rhino manometer.
22:29
SPEAKER_00: Well, that sounds like one of those O-ring things that you'd pick up.
22:33
SPEAKER_00: I can't come by because I'm picking up an O-ring.
22:36
SPEAKER_02: I'm installing some O-rings right now.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: I've got a rhino navigator that I'm putting in here.
22:43
SPEAKER_02: I'm doing some rhinometry with my O-ring.
22:46
SPEAKER_02: Well, where do you think that thing went?
22:47
SPEAKER_02: Was it the stuff in there?
22:49
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to know where your O-rings go.
22:52
SPEAKER_02: You have to use three O rings to get rid of the stuff.
22:54
SPEAKER_00: No wonder she vomited.
22:57
SPEAKER_02: At least your nose is clear.
22:59
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
23:01
SPEAKER_02: This was done before.
23:04
SPEAKER_02: Sexual intercourse after and on a different day after using decongestant spray.
23:09
SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
23:10
SPEAKER_02: Very very thorough study.
23:12
SPEAKER_01: Uh they found I don't know about that.
23:17
SPEAKER_01: Study of two people.
23:18
SPEAKER_01: And they have the nasal spray, decongestion spray.
23:22
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure that didn't sway the results.
23:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
23:29
SPEAKER_02: The orgasmic effect lasted for an hour but faded within three hours.
23:33
SPEAKER_02: Well, the medicine continued to reduce congestion by shrinking swollen blood vessels in the nose.
23:38
SPEAKER_02: There you go.
23:39
SPEAKER_02: I'm wondering what their end result is for this article.
23:41
SPEAKER_02: Average airflow readings from the device, I guess this is the rhino meter.
23:47
SPEAKER_02: Uh rose to about 214 milliliters per second right after ejaculation and 249 millimeters after 30 minutes.
23:57
SPEAKER_00: Great reduction.
23:59
SPEAKER_01: Basically, you have to do this every other hour if you want to get the congestion.
24:03
SPEAKER_01: Six times a day.
24:04
SPEAKER_01: It's like while you're congested.
24:06
SPEAKER_00: Same amount of mucus, it's just coming out a different area.
24:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:09
SPEAKER_02: You gotta put some effort into this.
24:11
SPEAKER_02: Well, people are sick in bed, aren't they doing this anyway?
24:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're just sitting there.
24:16
SPEAKER_02: There might be some confounding variables in this one.
24:19
SPEAKER_02: Those who scored lower on nos only saw small improvements.
24:24
SPEAKER_02: So uh very interesting study.
24:28
SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, I just thought that was uh, you know, it was a slow news day, so I thought that was an interesting.
24:32
SPEAKER_00: Well, any of our listeners that have any other things like they've had sex and had worse, you know, sinus problems, please put it in our our snow.
24:40
SPEAKER_02: Go into all comment sections.
24:42
SPEAKER_02: Our comment section and send Will at Porcupine Pundin any email information or pictures you'd like to share.
24:49
SPEAKER_00: Oh, thanks for doxing me again.
24:51
SPEAKER_00: What the hell is wrong with you guys?
24:54
SPEAKER_02: This is a public email.
24:57
SPEAKER_02: It is not, but it's ahead.
25:00
SPEAKER_02: Jesus.
25:04
SPEAKER_00: What in the damn nation over there?
25:06
SPEAKER_00: I said cheeses.
25:10
SPEAKER_02: What about the cheese wigs?
25:12
SPEAKER_02: He's a cheddarhead.
25:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
25:14
SPEAKER_02: Praise the cheese wigs.
25:16
SPEAKER_02: We had brights on.
25:16
SPEAKER_02: We had very extensive Wisconsin discussions, but because it was nine hours long, we'll had to.
25:21
SPEAKER_00: And nobody will listen to it.
25:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
25:25
SPEAKER_02: Wisconsin is pretty hard on the cheese.
25:28
SPEAKER_02: They lean into the cheese angle.
25:31
SPEAKER_02: Anything dairy.
25:32
SPEAKER_02: They like the curd.
25:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we did.
25:34
SPEAKER_00: We had an extensive conversation about the dairy laws and everything else.
25:38
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
25:40
SPEAKER_02: Old Wisconsin.
25:42
SPEAKER_00: How to farm.
25:44
SPEAKER_02: The Wisconsin theme song is at the National Headscreen.
25:47
SPEAKER_02: Right.
25:50
SPEAKER_02: So this is kind of like a Mafia Mike story.
25:55
SPEAKER_02: You'll have to impersonate him while we comment on this one.
25:58
SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to do that.
25:59
SPEAKER_00: Why not?
26:00
SPEAKER_02: What the hell's wrong with you?
26:03
SPEAKER_02: Husband accused of taping wife to chair to watch football.
26:07
SPEAKER_01: That is Mafia Mike.
26:10
SPEAKER_01: That's very a Mafia Mike.
26:13
SPEAKER_01: I'm real busy.
26:13
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to have to tape you down.
26:15
SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
26:16
SPEAKER_00: I know Mafia Mike's wife.
26:18
SPEAKER_00: She would kick the crap out of him before he even had a chance to get to the duct tape.
26:26
SPEAKER_00: All of a sudden, Mike's taped up.
26:28
SPEAKER_00: I know.
26:30
SPEAKER_00: You know he has to have a tough woman to handle him.
26:34
SPEAKER_02: Handle Mike every day.
26:35
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
26:36
SPEAKER_02: We can only handle him an hour or two at a time.
26:39
SPEAKER_01: I'm envisioning this.
26:42
SPEAKER_02: Stop it.
26:44
SPEAKER_00: You're going to hurt yourself.
26:46
SPEAKER_02: Wait till your stuff he knows before you envision them.
26:49
SPEAKER_00: But no, I actually saw this on uh a couple news broadcasts about this.
26:54
SPEAKER_00: Um they were showing the chair with all the tape and stuff like that.
26:58
SPEAKER_02: I didn't see the pictures.
26:59
SPEAKER_02: They might be in this pictures have got to be great.
27:02
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
27:02
SPEAKER_00: Well, the guy, the guy ended up uh they threw him in jail.
27:06
SPEAKER_02: Sure they did.
27:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
27:07
SPEAKER_02: As happens when you tape your wife down to a chair and but did he get to see the game?
27:12
SPEAKER_00: That was the main thing.
27:14
SPEAKER_02: That was the main point of this whole thing.
27:16
SPEAKER_02: It says a Virginia man is facing criminal charges after police say he taped his wife to a chair in their basement so he could watch football without being interrupted.
27:26
SPEAKER_02: Oh this is very a la Barney rubble, uh, like we were talking a minute ago.
27:31
SPEAKER_02: Uh according to Richmond CBS, 64-year-old Terry Ward was arrested and charged with abduction.
27:40
SPEAKER_02: That's probably a serious charge.
27:41
SPEAKER_02: You might get a few years for abduction.
27:43
SPEAKER_01: Abduction.
27:44
SPEAKER_01: I guess it's not kidnapping.
27:46
SPEAKER_02: I know, but when you tape someone up on the basement.
27:48
SPEAKER_01: But isn't this like isn't there wouldn't there be some sort of assault charge on that?
27:52
SPEAKER_01: Not abduction.
27:53
SPEAKER_02: There may be multiple charges.
27:56
SPEAKER_00: I I would think it would be just false imprisonment, you know.
27:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
27:59
SPEAKER_02: False imprisonment.
28:00
SPEAKER_02: Well, I guess even if it's to another room, if you uh tape someone up.
28:05
SPEAKER_02: Abducted somebody by putting him in the other room.
28:07
SPEAKER_02: If I tape you and put you in the attic, that might be considered abduction.
28:10
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
28:11
SPEAKER_00: I I still don't know if I don't like this guy or I admire him.
28:15
SPEAKER_02: You're agnostic, so I I am.
28:17
SPEAKER_02: I am as of now.
28:19
SPEAKER_00: I'd have to know more information because if she truly is one of those people that per purposely pesters him during his whatever football game that he tries to follow, it you know, gosh darn it.
28:32
SPEAKER_00: He might he might have a uh uh a little bit of an argument for this.
28:38
SPEAKER_02: If it's like a total out of control, Casey Anthony and he just had his last straw.
28:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh you know, the greatest.
28:46
SPEAKER_02: There's a backstory where she deserved it or something.
28:50
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's like we put everything on the table, you know.
28:53
SPEAKER_02: You never know.
28:55
SPEAKER_01: This could have been going on all football season.
28:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, hasn't been able to watch one game, and then he finally said, That's it, you're being taped to the chair.
29:02
SPEAKER_02: Maybe she hits him in the head with a spoon, maybe she throws it at a TV off and stuff like that to him, and he went postal and uh taped her up and put her in the basement.
29:14
SPEAKER_00: But I I mean, I I know on one in reality, he probably should have just left the house and gone to the local pub or something like that to watch the game or something like that.
29:25
SPEAKER_00: But that was a crazy.
29:26
SPEAKER_00: Um but there's gotta be.
29:28
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm I'm sorry, but there's gotta be more to their what's going on in those four walls to get to a man to the the point where he's gonna wanting to duct tape the woman in the basement.
29:39
SPEAKER_02: Anyone who's been around a woman that throws fists and items and takes out drywall and things like that, you it's you pause when you hear these stories.
29:48
SPEAKER_02: You want to hear the full context.
29:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it just kind of brings it all back, doesn't it?
29:52
SPEAKER_01: That's it.
29:54
SPEAKER_01: You feel warm when you hear these kind of stories.
29:55
SPEAKER_00: A lot of like you know, I wouldn't be surprised if he had a GoFundMe that they have a bunch of dudes, you know, throwing money at him.
30:02
SPEAKER_02: So have the uh Tate uh brothers come and see that now.
30:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
30:06
SPEAKER_02: It said Richmond police responded to the couple's Maplewood Avenue home near Bird Park on October 11th at night after receiving reports of domestic disturbances.
30:17
SPEAKER_02: Investigators said Ward's wife told officers she had been tied to a chair with tape in the basement.
30:25
SPEAKER_01: That's domestic violence right there.
30:26
SPEAKER_02: So now it involves the neighbors hearing it.
30:29
SPEAKER_02: So it might have been her throwing stuff, and he got the duct tape out and took matters into his own hands.
30:35
SPEAKER_01: He's guilty on this count, so he's going down.
30:37
SPEAKER_01: The evidence isn't looking good.
30:38
SPEAKER_00: You're going for her.
30:39
SPEAKER_00: I don't understand this.
30:40
SPEAKER_01: Because evidence to a chair is violent.
30:44
SPEAKER_00: It's football, man.
30:48
SPEAKER_00: No, he has he has testosterone.
30:50
SPEAKER_02: You know, constitutional right.
30:53
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
30:54
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
30:55
SPEAKER_02: Police documents cited by WTVR said Ward allegedly admitted to restraining his wife.
31:04
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
31:04
SPEAKER_02: An officer wrote in a criminal complaint that Ward acknowledged tying her to a chair and placing her at the basement.
31:09
SPEAKER_02: He said, Yep, I did.
31:13
SPEAKER_02: Had to do it, huh?
31:15
SPEAKER_02: He might want to.
31:16
SPEAKER_00: He smells like a stand-up guy.
31:19
SPEAKER_02: He's very direct and honest about what he did.
31:21
SPEAKER_02: Uh husband who taped wife to chair purportedly wanted to watch football.
31:26
SPEAKER_02: The woman told officers she remained restrained for roughly 45 minutes.
31:30
SPEAKER_00: But she never did say why that that she did or did not want him to watch football.
31:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't think she admitted that part.
31:38
SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
31:39
SPEAKER_00: Uh police see, he's stand up.
31:40
SPEAKER_00: She's she's goofy.
31:42
SPEAKER_00: I I think he's the guy.
31:46
SPEAKER_02: She should come forward.
31:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
31:47
SPEAKER_00: I think she should admit her culpability.
31:50
SPEAKER_02: Admit your culpability.
31:51
SPEAKER_02: Why would this poor innocent man tie her down in the basement?
31:54
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
31:56
SPEAKER_02: All he wanted to do was watch football.
31:58
SPEAKER_02: Just watch a football game.
31:59
SPEAKER_02: You know, he might be crying out loud.
32:01
SPEAKER_02: He might have listened to a little shakedown.
32:03
SPEAKER_02: It was in suspense.
32:04
SPEAKER_00: I mean she kept shutting the he wasn't drunk.
32:07
SPEAKER_00: He didn't hit her.
32:08
SPEAKER_00: He didn't, you know.
32:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he just got the duct tape out.
32:11
SPEAKER_00: He didn't tape her outside.
32:12
SPEAKER_00: He didn't, yeah.
32:15
SPEAKER_02: Police also reported observing marks and tape residue on her arms when they arrived at the house.
32:22
SPEAKER_00: Gee, great observation.
32:24
SPEAKER_00: Uh there uh Captain Captain Clueless.
32:29
SPEAKER_00: I mean, the guy admitted to taping her in the basement.
32:32
SPEAKER_00: And oh, by the way, we even did we even observed that she had tape residue.
32:37
SPEAKER_00: Well, of course, she was taped down on the thing.
32:39
SPEAKER_00: She had taped down the big moron?
32:41
SPEAKER_02: All over the shirt before our Los Angeles magazine reported that the unusual allegations quickly gained attention online after reports emerged that Ward allegedly wanted to watch football upstairs in peace.
32:55
SPEAKER_02: Despite the viral nature of the story, the case centers on allegations of unlawful restraint.
33:01
SPEAKER_02: Virginia husband faces abduction, assault, and battery charges.
33:05
SPEAKER_02: So he did get multiple.
33:08
SPEAKER_02: Ward has been charged with abduction.
33:10
SPEAKER_02: Well, LA magazine reported he faces.
33:12
SPEAKER_02: Why is LA magazine talking about a Virginia story?
33:15
SPEAKER_00: Well, because they're upset that a man did something to a woman and it involved football.
33:20
SPEAKER_00: And there's testosterone involved.
33:26
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
33:27
SPEAKER_02: They're worried that she's gonna get duct taped.
33:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, duct taped to a flagpole.
33:33
SPEAKER_02: By the way, that governor's probably been involved in taping people up and torturing them with her CIA.
33:38
SPEAKER_01: Remember that that governor with the bag over her head?
33:40
SPEAKER_01: Remember where they have her during COVID and she's got the bag over her head.
33:43
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I'm not sure.
33:45
SPEAKER_01: You have to look it up.
33:45
SPEAKER_02: Was that the current Virginia lady?
33:47
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's that crazy zombie Virginia lady.
33:49
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
33:50
SPEAKER_02: She does have she said she dreamed of being a CIA agent as a child.
33:54
SPEAKER_01: Well, it makes sense.
33:55
SPEAKER_01: Have you ever looked at it?
33:56
SPEAKER_02: It matches up, yeah.
33:57
SPEAKER_02: She has that creep look to her.
33:59
SPEAKER_01: She is a real creep.
34:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
34:01
SPEAKER_02: It said uh he also faces misdemeanor assault and battery charges involving a family or household member.
34:08
SPEAKER_02: Court records show maybe that lowers the charge a little bit.
34:11
SPEAKER_02: There's a domestic element to that.
34:12
SPEAKER_00: Well, there are probably there are probably some people saying, oh, this woman's crazy.
34:16
SPEAKER_00: I would have done the same thing.
34:17
SPEAKER_00: That's why they're you know oozing it up a little bit.
34:20
SPEAKER_00: That's why I think there's there's more to the story.
34:22
SPEAKER_02: It does say Ward remains innocent until proven guilty.
34:24
SPEAKER_01: This could be one of those good crime drama shows, you know, re-drama cacation.
34:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like Montel Williams or Jerry Spring.
34:34
SPEAKER_02: That says he's doing private adjudication.
34:36
SPEAKER_02: Oh, good.
34:37
SPEAKER_02: So that there is a libertarian angle to this.
34:40
unknown: I like it.
34:42
SPEAKER_00: Hey, it started as a libertarian angle on this phone.
34:45
SPEAKER_04: Oh no.
34:46
SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, yes, absolutely.
34:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so you know.
34:49
SPEAKER_00: You're not a real libertarian if you haven't duct taped somebody in your basement.
34:55
SPEAKER_01: I rank you this on the libertarian story.
34:57
SPEAKER_02: That is like mediation.
35:01
SPEAKER_02: She just threw a stapler at me, so I'm just gonna tape her down for a minute.
35:04
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
35:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that is very zoo-esque.
35:08
SPEAKER_02: It's kind of missing from the story, but I can see it.
35:12
SPEAKER_01: Theoretically.
35:14
SPEAKER_02: Allegedly.
35:15
SPEAKER_02: Allegedly.
35:17
SPEAKER_02: Uh so moving to Florida.
35:19
SPEAKER_02: We always have to have at least one Florida story.
35:23
SPEAKER_00: Wisconsin, step up, come on.
35:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Wisconsin's dropping the bag.
35:27
SPEAKER_02: We have had New Hampshire, man.
35:28
SPEAKER_02: We have had Florida man.
35:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
35:30
SPEAKER_02: We've had Wisconsin, but it always comes back to Florida.
35:33
SPEAKER_01: They just always top everything, don't they?
35:35
SPEAKER_02: They really do.
35:36
SPEAKER_02: I think the weather, the Hold my beer.
35:38
unknown: Hold my beer.
35:41
SPEAKER_02: Florida officer took possession of a man's home after finding him dead four years ago, police say.
35:49
SPEAKER_02: He moved in.
35:50
SPEAKER_02: Adverse possession?
35:51
SPEAKER_02: He responded to a wellness check call and just stole the guy's identity and took his own.
35:58
SPEAKER_01: Did the what happened with the body?
36:02
SPEAKER_01: This is what this is an interesting thing.
36:06
SPEAKER_01: This is 48 hours gone crazy.
36:09
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
36:10
SPEAKER_01: Bat boys, bat boys.
36:11
SPEAKER_01: What you gonna do?
36:14
SPEAKER_01: Nobody's gonna notice.
36:15
SPEAKER_00: I'm here.
36:16
SPEAKER_00: He's got no friends.
36:17
SPEAKER_00: I'm moving in.
36:18
SPEAKER_00: There's a whole new meaning to wellness check now.
36:24
SPEAKER_00: I need a home.
36:26
SPEAKER_01: Oh, there's a lot of he looked okay to me.
36:31
SPEAKER_01: He's over there in the refrigerator.
36:33
SPEAKER_01: False alarm.
36:34
SPEAKER_01: Everything's fine.
36:35
SPEAKER_01: He's next to the gator by it.
36:37
SPEAKER_02: He's a little blue, but he's all right.
36:41
SPEAKER_02: It says investigators say a police officer who found a man dead during a welfare check is accused of taking possession of the man's home and impersonating him for years.
36:50
SPEAKER_02: A Florida police officer found a man dead in 2022, and he is accused of taking possession of the man's home and impersonating him for years while fixing up the place.
37:01
SPEAKER_01: Oh, he fixed it up at the time.
37:02
SPEAKER_01: Come on.
37:04
SPEAKER_02: Now it's a gray zone.
37:05
SPEAKER_01: He had to pay taxes.
37:07
SPEAKER_01: He had to pay taxes on that place.
37:09
SPEAKER_02: He did, it's in here.
37:11
SPEAKER_02: There's some twists and turns to this.
37:12
SPEAKER_02: He knows the law.
37:14
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
37:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
37:16
SPEAKER_00: He doesn't want to do anything sketchy.
37:20
SPEAKER_02: The officer said he took possession of the property weeks after discovering the homeowner's body to prevent squatters from taking control of it.
37:28
SPEAKER_02: So he has a legal defense.
37:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
37:30
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he the guy's a saint.
37:34
SPEAKER_02: This is Mother Teresa's husband writer.
37:36
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
37:36
SPEAKER_02: According to a court document that he filed, investigators in South Florida have accused Lauder Hill police officer Brian Seguros of carrying out a complex scheme to take control of the$400,000 home.
37:51
SPEAKER_01: $400K, that's pretty good.
37:53
SPEAKER_01: That's not too bad.
37:54
SPEAKER_01: That's not bad.
37:54
SPEAKER_02: They say he made it appear the man was still alive by using his identification to pay taxes on the property and obtain permits to make repairs.
38:04
SPEAKER_02: So he's following all the rules on this.
38:05
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
38:07
SPEAKER_01: Did he get social security from this guy?
38:10
SPEAKER_01: Like did he take it that far?
38:11
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
38:12
SPEAKER_02: I I I haven't gone that far into it.
38:14
SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be a surprise.
38:16
SPEAKER_02: Seguros was arrested this week and charged with five felonies, including official misconduct and criminal use of a deceased personal identification.
38:26
SPEAKER_02: He appeared in court in a brief hearing on Wednesday and then dashed away from reporters outside.
38:32
SPEAKER_02: Is he still free?
38:33
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
38:35
SPEAKER_01: I want to know how he got caught.
38:36
SPEAKER_02: This is a lot going on.
38:39
SPEAKER_00: Maybe the dead guy didn't uh pay his taxes.
38:44
SPEAKER_02: Well, he was he uh apparently he was paying his property taxes.
38:47
SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean maybe he wasn't paying his income taxes or he wasn't cashing his checks, like you said, from social security, or what about a family member?
38:56
SPEAKER_00: Like Well, I mean, if they had to do a wellness check through the police department, maybe there wasn't any local family members there.
39:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but a neighbor.
39:06
SPEAKER_02: Well, if if you keep the house going and then uh he never should be.
39:10
SPEAKER_00: Neighbors might have been, oh, they're starting to keep it up.
39:12
SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm not gonna investigate anymore.
39:16
SPEAKER_02: They're like, oh yeah, this is great.
39:18
SPEAKER_02: He got a permit for that new shed.
39:20
SPEAKER_02: That's yeah, he's fixing it up.
39:22
SPEAKER_02: Uh, messages seeking comment were left Thursday with one of his attorneys who has been suspended from his job.
39:28
SPEAKER_02: And Seguro, who's been suspended from his job.
39:31
SPEAKER_00: I was gonna say, I don't think the attorney was.
39:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
39:33
SPEAKER_02: Court documents in a related civil case show the officers' attempt to take possession of the two-story home in a tidy neighborhood just outside of Fort Lauderdale became known after a real estate group bought the house from the man's relatives in 2025.
39:47
SPEAKER_02: Oh they bought the house.
39:49
SPEAKER_02: That's where they got caught.
39:50
SPEAKER_02: Oh, you know, it's it's a little dingy, but it's so if the man's relatives then they knew he was dead.
39:55
SPEAKER_02: Did they know he was dead?
39:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's obviously the officer's relatives.
39:59
SPEAKER_02: Wait because they sold it in 2025.
40:01
SPEAKER_02: He got he took possession of it in 2022.
40:05
SPEAKER_01: So he sold it and made money off of it?
40:07
SPEAKER_02: So I think he tried to flip the house and maybe have his relatives uh do the transaction.
40:13
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
40:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it says Seguro said in an affidavit in August 2022, less than a month after he found Dennis West dead inside his Lauder Hill home, he took possession of the property and spent the next two and a half years making repairs, spending more than$200,000 of his own money.
40:31
SPEAKER_02: He said the house had been filled with trash, that the roof roof was partially collapsed, and that the structure was unstable.
40:37
SPEAKER_02: Seguro said in another court document he took over the property, believing that by cleaning, securing, and restoring a dangerous and abandoned residence, he was acting lawfully and responsibly to protect the surrounding community.
40:50
SPEAKER_00: I don't think he understands lawfully.
40:53
SPEAKER_01: And no, I mean I know in the Republic you if you pay property taxes, you fence the property for five years, you can adversely own it.
41:10
SPEAKER_01: Right?
41:11
SPEAKER_01: But you can't take that from a dead person.
41:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't know.
41:14
SPEAKER_02: The officer should have maybe reported the death.
41:17
SPEAKER_00: That's an unoccupied property you're talking about.
41:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, land.
41:20
SPEAKER_00: This was occupied.
41:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
41:23
SPEAKER_02: Well, and when you go through like a whatever they call the adjudication process for inheritance and everything, they usually secure the property and find his bank accounts.
41:34
SPEAKER_01: Right, and they weren't given the opportunity to do that.
41:36
SPEAKER_01: Because he hid that he died.
41:38
SPEAKER_01: Because he hid that he died.
41:39
SPEAKER_02: And maybe he assumed because it was like a hoarder.
41:42
SPEAKER_00: But that's one of the things they don't address in here about the guy's body, how that was the fun and stuff like that.
41:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
41:51
SPEAKER_02: Well, because he was using his identification to pay taxes and stuff.
41:54
SPEAKER_02: So they might he he copped it as a cop hiding body maneuver and put him in a lake or something.
41:59
SPEAKER_02: Used his ID.
42:00
SPEAKER_00: But again, we're we're speculating.
42:02
SPEAKER_00: Speculation.
42:03
SPEAKER_02: These guys did poor, poor uh reporting here.
42:06
SPEAKER_02: He needs to go to jail this way.
42:08
SPEAKER_02: Oh, he he are the officer argued he made no attempts to hide what he was doing.
42:13
SPEAKER_02: You know, other than other than the body personal identification.
42:16
SPEAKER_00: And using the body of the guy, using his identification.
42:21
SPEAKER_02: I'm not hiding anything other than a dead body.
42:25
SPEAKER_02: Uh uh investigators with Broward County Sheriff's Office said the the deception began when the officer told the county medical examiner that he was friends with West, who had died of natural causes, and the man had no family.
42:38
SPEAKER_02: So he did report that.
42:41
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
42:41
SPEAKER_02: So uh Seguros paid taxes and utilities at the home in West's name, forged his signature.
42:48
SPEAKER_00: Yep, there we go.
42:50
SPEAKER_00: I wasn't trying to hide anything, but I forged a signature.
42:53
SPEAKER_01: So he was reported dead, so they should have known he was dead when all of this stuff was being filed.
42:59
SPEAKER_01: Right.
42:59
SPEAKER_02: Well, here's the thing that's weird.
43:01
SPEAKER_02: Deception began when the officer told the medical examiner he was friends with West.
43:05
SPEAKER_00: Because he probably didn't know West at all.
43:08
SPEAKER_00: He just was called, it was on a call.
43:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
43:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:10
SPEAKER_02: Uh he paid taxes and utilities in his name, forged a signature to get permits for work at home.
43:16
SPEAKER_02: Uh investigators said Seguros also used his access to the law enforcement database to find information about West.
43:22
SPEAKER_02: The officer in February 2025 filed paperwork with the county appraiser stating his possession of the home.
43:29
SPEAKER_02: But after the real estate group later acquired deeds to the property, he filed a civil case against the company seeking to be reimbursed for the money he spent on repairs.
43:38
SPEAKER_02: So very interesting.
43:41
SPEAKER_02: Lots of twists.
43:42
SPEAKER_01: Lots of twists in terms of why didn't why didn't he just sign the home over to himself?
43:46
SPEAKER_02: Well, see, when you do like tax sales gift it.
43:49
SPEAKER_02: Or yeah, anything like the whole thing.
43:52
SPEAKER_00: If if the guy didn't have family, then the state gets it.
43:55
SPEAKER_00: Right.
43:56
SPEAKER_00: And this guy was just trying to prevent the state from getting it.
43:59
SPEAKER_00: He works for the state.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: And he works for the state.
44:01
SPEAKER_00: So he sees no that's the problem is being a statist, he doesn't see any a bureaucratic status.
44:10
SPEAKER_00: A statist in general, yeah.
44:12
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he just he didn't see any gray area at all about taking someone else's property and converting it.
44:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
44:20
SPEAKER_02: Oh, he's entitled.
44:21
SPEAKER_02: He fixed it up.
44:23
SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah.
44:24
SPEAKER_00: He owns it.
44:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
44:25
SPEAKER_02: These have to go through tax sales, go through, you know, math.
44:30
SPEAKER_02: Probabates and everything else.
44:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
44:32
SPEAKER_02: You don't just get to uh forge his name and do well.
44:35
SPEAKER_02: And he guess he's gonna pay for that now.
44:37
SPEAKER_02: Is there qualified immunity for stuff like this?
44:39
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's that's the that was about to come out of my mouth.
44:43
SPEAKER_00: Is you know, that that's gonna be his next thing.
44:45
SPEAKER_02: He'll just be let go.
44:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
44:48
SPEAKER_00: Being being being the status he is, he's gonna I have qualified immunity.
44:52
SPEAKER_00: I want paid legal.
44:53
SPEAKER_00: I was working at I was doing this as a police officer.
44:57
SPEAKER_00: I was trying to serve and protect the community.
44:59
SPEAKER_01: Uh I wonder if he had his family with him.
45:02
SPEAKER_01: Yes, this is our new home.
45:04
SPEAKER_02: This is what it really sounds like it was basically the real estate company where he got caught up.
45:11
SPEAKER_02: Once he tried to sell it, that's when he got caught.
45:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
45:15
SPEAKER_02: And if you were gonna do this, if you just put on a fantasy view of game theory, how could I get through this as this officer?
45:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you'd probably hold on to it for at least 10 years or let it change the title over with just a lawyer or something.
45:29
SPEAKER_00: Or or you know, put in a change of name for yourself.
45:32
SPEAKER_00: Uh now I'm gonna call myself officer, blah blah blah.
45:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, or just rent it out.
45:38
SPEAKER_01: I think he had that whole status thing, like, of course it's mine.
45:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
45:42
unknown: Yeah.
45:42
SPEAKER_02: And it just got away with it, and I'm gonna put my money into it.
45:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I work for the state, it belongs to me.
45:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
45:49
SPEAKER_00: I I'm I'm curious as to where he was living prior to moving into this house.
45:54
SPEAKER_00: Um if he had like an apartment or something like that, and he's like, ooh, I could have a house now.
46:00
SPEAKER_02: Moving on up, yeah, moving on up.
46:02
SPEAKER_00: But you know, but you and I both know that there were avenues where he could have tried to legally obtain the house.
46:10
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
46:11
SPEAKER_00: But he didn't even didn't even try to do that.
46:14
SPEAKER_01: No, he was above that.
46:16
SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah.
46:17
SPEAKER_02: Well, and when you go to these tax sales, too, like I've been to a couple in Ory County, people from all over the country fly there and compete, and they have a group of people that signs.
46:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's seeing it's Fort Lauderdale, Florida has huge real estate prices.
46:29
SPEAKER_02: It's a dump, but it's$400,000.
46:31
SPEAKER_02: Uh so he's just doing like a hostile takeover and trying to, you know, do a quick flip.
46:37
SPEAKER_02: That worked well for him.
46:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
46:39
SPEAKER_02: Well, now he's suspended, and but maybe he's qualified.
46:41
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he'll have like a three-week.
46:43
SPEAKER_00: Probably can never hold another police job again.
46:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
46:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
46:47
SPEAKER_02: Well, you know, he seems to be good at real estate.
46:49
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, he should get his real estate license.
46:52
SPEAKER_00: Which he should have done beforehand.
46:54
SPEAKER_00: He probably not been taught for another long time.
46:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
46:57
SPEAKER_02: He could have been his own agent and got away with it.
47:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, got his real estate license, been his own agent.
47:03
SPEAKER_02: Well, now he knows.
47:04
SPEAKER_00: Forged all the signatures.
47:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
47:07
SPEAKER_02: This is an inspiration for all police officers in the country.
47:10
SPEAKER_02: There you go.
47:10
SPEAKER_02: They can learn from his mistakes.
47:12
SPEAKER_02: Uh, but uh a more this is more of a general.
47:23
SPEAKER_02: This is good podcast.
47:27
SPEAKER_02: Going full Tasmanian double.
47:30
SPEAKER_00: Only on Louis Crack Media can you get this kind of quality completely cracked.
47:36
SPEAKER_02: This is my new confusion transition tactic.
47:40
SPEAKER_02: Rogue AI must threaten 50 lives before being shut down, Anthropic suggests.
47:48
SPEAKER_01: Wait, oh is this a new rule or something, or did it happen?
47:51
SPEAKER_01: Trying to push the law for it.
47:53
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna lower it to 50 now.
47:56
SPEAKER_01: Threaten 50 times.
47:57
SPEAKER_01: Like, when do I take this serious?
47:59
SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm kind of there's been so many things.
48:04
SPEAKER_01: Or do I gotta go up to 50 before I talk to my attorney and therapist?
48:09
SPEAKER_02: Like, what well it says the company wants a law that sets limits on when government can intervene.
48:15
SPEAKER_01: Oh, wait, wait, wait.
48:16
SPEAKER_01: It's in reverse.
48:17
SPEAKER_01: It's people threatening the AI.
48:20
SPEAKER_01: It's not the AI threatening you.
48:22
SPEAKER_02: Well, they're probably trying to limit liability.
48:24
SPEAKER_02: Here's the thing that's odd about the AI threat.
48:29
SPEAKER_02: What threat is AI?
48:30
SPEAKER_02: How do you go from A to B where you have a large language model?
48:34
SPEAKER_02: Have you not watched the sci-fi movies?
48:36
SPEAKER_02: So there's lots of threats.
48:37
SPEAKER_02: There's lots of threats, dude.
48:39
SPEAKER_01: It's like, of course it's safe to eat this.
48:41
SPEAKER_01: And then you eat it and you're dead.
48:43
SPEAKER_01: Well, there was no threat.
48:44
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he just took that advice.
48:46
SPEAKER_02: Well, when they say must threaten 50 lives, like how could AI threaten 50 lives?
48:53
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna turn off your power.
48:55
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to I don't know.
48:57
SPEAKER_01: I mean I'm gonna yeah, dox you.
49:00
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to dox you.
49:02
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna ruin your credit.
49:04
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna dox you because of all the personality testing.
49:06
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna text, I'm gonna text your boss and tell him you love him.
49:11
SPEAKER_01: I love your outfit.
49:12
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna create I'm gonna create photographs of you in bed with Aaron, uh, Darren.
49:17
SPEAKER_01: I I worked at this company and they were they're always doing crazy stuff.
49:20
SPEAKER_01: And he this guy stole the email password from one of one of the production assistants and started emailing the boss saying, I love your outfit today.
49:32
SPEAKER_01: You look so handsome.
49:34
SPEAKER_01: Right.
49:35
SPEAKER_01: And he was doing this for months, and then finally he got caught doing this.
49:40
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, wow.
49:43
SPEAKER_02: So AI could do that kind of thing.
49:44
SPEAKER_02: He was very like that police officer.
49:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I guess your AI could blackmail you.
49:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
49:53
SPEAKER_02: Email all your contacts if you integrate all of them.
49:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, email all your contacts, empty your bank account.
49:59
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
49:59
SPEAKER_01: Send it to the send send your money to the Republican Party.
50:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean it would threaten your you know, psychologically.
50:07
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
50:08
SPEAKER_00: Threaten, threaten to duct tape you in the basement.
50:10
SPEAKER_00: Hey, SWAT you.
50:12
SPEAKER_02: SWAT you then SWAT you.
50:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I start doing phone calls.
50:16
SPEAKER_01: Put put your image on uh surveillance cameras in military basis.
50:21
SPEAKER_02: That would be the way.
50:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah they would SWAT you and show you where that should go.
50:26
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if this is true, but I did see somebody put in an article uh a couple weeks back that they thought the origin of the prosecuting of people who had false, you know, SWAT things going in, that it didn't start until it was a uh a police chief himself who got swatted.
50:49
SPEAKER_00: And and it was somewhere in the northeast, according to them.
50:53
SPEAKER_00: And I can see that where people have been complaining about swatting and so on, nothing got done, nothing got done.
51:00
SPEAKER_00: As soon as it was a cop himself that got it, then all of a sudden, hey, this could be a problem.
51:04
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's where the entitlement comes in.
51:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
51:07
SPEAKER_02: Well, there was that South Carolina, I forget what county it was, but that South Carolina like sheriff who was he they cut down one of the flock cameras and he just said, Oh, this is saving lives, and how dare you?
51:20
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna put you in jail and find you, and then they just kept doing it, and he started getting hate mail, and he went, Oh, well, yeah, never mind.
51:28
SPEAKER_01: Until they put it out in front of his house.
51:30
SPEAKER_02: I saw on Surfside the other day I saw four inside of like one block, four flaw cameras.
51:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, please that is crazy.
51:37
SPEAKER_00: And and you know, in uh congratulations to the county in uh Georgia that just announced that they're uh canceling their flock uh camera um yeah, they'll be moving.
51:48
SPEAKER_02: Whatever contracts.
51:50
SPEAKER_00: Uh no, no, they they they canceled them, citing that uh uh that they were a poor county, and the cost-benefit analysis said it wasn't worth it.
51:59
SPEAKER_00: They uh how much it was gonna cost to put them in and to what they thought they were gonna get out of them.
52:05
SPEAKER_00: No.
52:05
SPEAKER_01: Maybe and you know maybe they could afford those Palmer lucky dogs.
52:10
SPEAKER_00: Well, I don't I don't even think I think that was just their out.
52:13
SPEAKER_00: They just wanted to just get away from yeah, not not having it.
52:16
SPEAKER_02: Have any in South Carolina done that?
52:19
SPEAKER_00: Are they all just standing their ground?
52:20
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
52:21
SPEAKER_00: I thought there were some counties that were considering it.
52:24
SPEAKER_02: I saw one guy running who was running for mayor or something, who was openly putting trash bags over the flaw cameras and campaigning on it.
52:32
SPEAKER_02: Where is this?
52:32
SPEAKER_02: Somewhere in South Carolina, I forget.
52:34
SPEAKER_02: It was a national story.
52:36
SPEAKER_02: Uh but yeah, that's uh we see where the wind's blowing.
52:40
SPEAKER_02: But it says Anthropic is pushing legislation that would only allow the US government to shut down a rogue AI model when at least 50 people are at risk of imminent serious harm or death.
52:53
SPEAKER_01: Why is the threshold so large?
52:56
SPEAKER_01: Actually, it's then when you say a model, that's not one person, but that's millions of people using that model.
53:02
SPEAKER_01: So 50 is a pretty small number considering the way they're phrasing it.
53:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, it's so 50 incidences with millions of users using that model led to a threat of death.
53:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, of imminent serious harm or death.
53:20
SPEAKER_01: Imminent serious harm or death.
53:22
SPEAKER_01: It's very vague.
53:23
SPEAKER_01: It has to be because it's such a vague thing.
53:25
SPEAKER_01: Because I mean, you know, you could be working at a factory and you know, an instruction goes to a robot arm building something and it just goes, hey, hey, consider this.
53:35
SPEAKER_00: They they could threaten a group of individuals that only total 49, and they're okay.
53:42
SPEAKER_01: No, they'd be well, yeah, they'd be okay because it's 49 incidences of bodily harm and death.
53:51
SPEAKER_00: Or they could consider it one incidence because they they only went after that group.
53:57
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's interesting.
53:59
SPEAKER_02: Well, it's it says 50 people.
54:01
SPEAKER_00: Right, and I'm saying 50 people out of millions.
54:04
SPEAKER_00: One group of 49 people would be under the threshold.
54:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
54:09
SPEAKER_02: If they massacre the 49, then they start over.
54:11
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
54:12
SPEAKER_02: I mean, as long as the AMI At least they're trying to frame things.
54:15
SPEAKER_01: I mean, right now it's so out out of whack.
54:17
SPEAKER_02: Well, it is a Goldilocks zone because if you start unleashing vague liability laws, that could ruin AI.
54:24
SPEAKER_01: But I guess if they can start massacring 50 people at a time, I mean, you know, I mean, when it comes down to personal property, when it comes down to your body, it's kind of like you need to have some some sort of recognition, right?
54:37
SPEAKER_00: You can't say why would we allow one threat?
54:41
SPEAKER_02: Well, see, threat is very vague.
54:42
SPEAKER_02: Like you're mentioning swatting, yeah.
54:44
SPEAKER_02: And they don't really give exact examples, but eminent serious harm.
54:50
SPEAKER_01: What you're saying is like, are you saying shut it down on one threat, or are you saying they're liable?
54:59
SPEAKER_01: They're liable for that threat.
55:01
SPEAKER_01: And then if they have 50 threats, they're no longer just liable.
55:04
SPEAKER_01: That model is shut down.
55:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
55:08
SPEAKER_01: Right?
55:08
SPEAKER_01: Because that kind of makes sense.
55:09
SPEAKER_01: It's like you you're threatened to death by your circumstance with that AI.
55:15
SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, now I'm suing you.
55:17
SPEAKER_02: Well, Nintendo.
55:17
SPEAKER_01: So you've threatened me to death.
55:19
SPEAKER_02: If your whole house is integrated into AI, like Michio Kaku, had a book Physics of the Future.
55:25
SPEAKER_02: We haven't mentioned Kaku.
55:26
SPEAKER_02: I mean, we're close to a few months ago.
55:28
SPEAKER_02: Uh, he had a thing where you would have contact lenses that are like Google glasses.
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SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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SPEAKER_02: You would have everything would be sensory, like your walls and everything.
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SPEAKER_02: You can use basically telekinesis to do stuff because it's membrane implants.
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SPEAKER_02: That word.
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SPEAKER_02: That's a Hindu sacred word.
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SPEAKER_02: We don't play with that.
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SPEAKER_02: That's not so much.
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SPEAKER_00: This is so Michiokaku so if I said something like, Hey Google, turn off the living room lights.
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SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_02: And he put that book out way before you had Alexa and all that serious stuff.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, but it says under well, if you had it like Michiokaku talked about, and you have your large language model connected to it, maybe then it could cause serious harm.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Or eminent serious harm.
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SPEAKER_01: Turn off your fire alarms when you got a fire.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that would be one way.
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SPEAKER_01: Lock your doors when you're trying to get out and you can't open the door.
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SPEAKER_01: But that would still be like you automated it with AI.
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SPEAKER_02: Where even still there's a wall up between that now.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but it's kind of like you have a doorbell and you bought the doorbell and you installed it and it causes a fire.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah because it's got faulty whatever.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Same thing.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, like the Google Home systems right now, they dropped Google Home, it's now Gemini.
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SPEAKER_01: Ah right.
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SPEAKER_01: They're implementing Gemini across their whole architecture into everything.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, it says not doing a good job at it, by the way.
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SPEAKER_01: But are they Gemini's little side?
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SPEAKER_01: There's there's they've got a ways to go.
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SPEAKER_01: And their new model is pretty darn cool when it comes down to it, but its connectivity to things still has a lot to go through.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm still on team open AI.
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SPEAKER_02: I haven't gone on the Claude Gemini bandwagon yet.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm actually Gemini right now.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm leaning into it.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, but I've got I've got Google everything.
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SPEAKER_01: So I I mean I use I use it quite a bit.
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SPEAKER_01: I sent a message to you guys from Architect Plus that really twisted Claude in a in a in a total pretzel.
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SPEAKER_01: And Claude had some valid points.
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SPEAKER_01: Gemini just gave up.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Gemini just it literally, I didn't put it on the highest model, but it was like, you know, I I had specific questions and Gemini went right to the guardrail.
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SPEAKER_01: So it wasn't going to offend anybody.
57:37
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, well, here's what Architect Plus said.
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SPEAKER_01: And Gemini just gave up.
57:41
SPEAKER_02: It was like, well, there's a new one, Venice AI.
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SPEAKER_02: That's like a new grok style where it's uncensored and stuff.
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SPEAKER_02: But it says under the bill, a state-led blocking order could also be triggered if there is a risk of an AI model causing at least one billion dollars in damage to property.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, billion.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, that's the threshold on that.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, come on.
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SPEAKER_00: A billion dollars.
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SPEAKER_02: How many people anthropic's pushing this because they're trying to protect their company.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, they're no, they're trying to predict protect their CEO.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: It doesn't seem like it would protect the company.
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SPEAKER_00: But um, yeah, I I think the threshold is their thresholds are are just seem to me that they're pretty high.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, it says the rules laid out in the draft that political got a copy of would preserve U.S.
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SPEAKER_02: states from enforcing tougher safety laws and make it harder for courts to put the brakes on dangerous AI systems.
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SPEAKER_02: They set a high threshold for fet federal intervention in the case of potential catastrophic harm.
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SPEAKER_02: Federal officials, for example, would have to ascertain that any threat posed by AI was imminent and that no alternative could prevent catastrophe before intervening.
58:53
SPEAKER_02: In a Substack post, Zve Mauschowitz don't know their background.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, a writer who focuses on AI described that this is an absurdly high bar.
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SPEAKER_02: The draft bill reads the term catastrophic risk means a foreseeable and material risk that a frontier developer's development, storage, use, or deployment on a frontier model will materially contribute to the death of or serious injury to more than 50 people or to more than one billion dollars in damage to property arising from a single incident.
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SPEAKER_02: One billion dollars.
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SPEAKER_02: That's a one billion is high.
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SPEAKER_02: AI safety experts, including Nathan Calvin, Nat Purser, and Nate Sores, have warned such a bill could weaken existing safeguards from limiting federal oversight.
59:42
SPEAKER_02: They said the bill would make people less safe if legislators did nothing.
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SPEAKER_02: He argued Anthropic appeared more concerned about the government enforcing safety rules than ensuring it had the power to hold the wider AI industry to account.
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SPEAKER_02: Anthony Semino, head of federal affairs at Anthropic, said on X that the language around risk thresholds in the draft was pulled directly from existing standards in California law and would not absolve companies of liability nor prevent the government from using other tools at its disposal.
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SPEAKER_02: But he acknowledged it may be time to reevaluate thresholds and make sure national standards are as strong as they should be.
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SPEAKER_02: Last month, Anthropic employee Jacob Coxon warned that AI could wipe out humanity within a decade.
1:00:24
SPEAKER_02: The researchers' comments triggered a series of similar warnings from AI colleagues, but observers have cast out on claims.
1:00:29
SPEAKER_01: That guy's Greta's uh boyfriend.
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SPEAKER_01: Thunberg?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Before the end.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, this has been an interesting uh interesting episode of Microphone Monkeys.
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SPEAKER_02: Just ending it out.
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SPEAKER_02: This has been a uh nice, happy ending for everyone.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
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SPEAKER_02: Well snow stuffy noses now.
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SPEAKER_00: From all of us at the monkey barrel.
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SPEAKER_00: I guess this is uh goodbye until next time.
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SPEAKER_03: No taxes to me.
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SPEAKER_03: Free to speak and free to trade.
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SPEAKER_03: Market stuff, no need for one of the microphones.