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E281: Why Trauma Triggers Us: The Reactive Mind, Guest Josie Gibson · Adult Child of Dysfunction

0:47
Well,
0:47
hello,
0:47
everybody.
0:48
Welcome
0:48
back
0:48
to
0:48
another
0:49
episode
0:49
of
0:50
Adult
0:50
Child
0:50
of
0:50
Dysfunction.
0:51
Today
0:51
we
0:52
have
0:52
with
0:52
us
0:53
Josie
0:53
Gibson.
0:54
And
0:54
boy,
0:54
if
0:55
her
0:55
bio
0:55
isn't
0:56
short
0:57
and
0:57
to
0:57
the
0:57
point.
0:57
And
0:58
I
0:58
love
0:58
it.
0:58
She
0:59
said.
1:01
She
1:01
said,
1:01
I
1:01
love.
1:03
Oh,
1:04
I
1:04
don't
1:04
know
1:04
what
1:04
that's
1:04
doing.
1:05
Turning
1:05
that
1:06
off.
1:08
Okay,
1:09
we.
1:10
What
1:10
she
1:10
does.
1:10
I'm
1:11
gonna.
1:11
I'm
1:11
just
1:11
gonna
1:12
start
1:12
that
1:12
over.
1:12
Yeah,
1:13
no
1:13
worries.
1:13
I'm
1:13
gonna.
1:14
I'm
1:14
gonna.
1:14
Did
1:15
you
1:15
hear
1:15
it
1:15
coming
1:15
back
1:16
to
1:16
me?
1:16
No,
1:17
I
1:17
didn't.
1:17
Did
1:17
it?
1:18
Oh,
1:18
it
1:18
was
1:18
coming
1:18
back
1:19
to
1:19
me.
1:19
I
1:19
had
1:19
it
1:19
on
1:20
the
1:20
other
1:20
one.
1:21
So,
1:21
yes,
1:22
I'm
1:22
gonna
1:22
go
1:23
ahead
1:23
and
1:23
turn
1:23
this
1:23
one
1:23
off
1:24
and
1:24
get
1:24
that
1:25
one
1:25
going.
1:25
And
1:26
yeah,
1:26
we're
1:26
probably
1:26
on
1:26
YouTube
1:27
right
1:27
now,
1:27
but
1:27
that's,
1:27
you
1:28
know
1:28
what
1:28
to
1:28
eras
1:28
human.
1:29
Yes.
1:29
Right.
1:30
So
1:30
we're
1:30
not
1:30
going
1:31
to
1:31
turn
1:31
that
1:31
off.
1:31
We're
1:31
just
1:32
going
1:32
to
1:32
keep
1:32
going,
1:33
roll
1:34
right
1:34
over
1:34
it,
1:38
make
1:38
sure
1:38
we're
1:38
still
1:39
recording.
1:42
Okay.
1:43
So
1:44
welcome
1:44
back
1:44
to
1:44
another
1:45
episode
1:45
of
1:45
Adult
1:45
Child
1:46
of
1:46
Dysfunction.
1:46
Today
1:47
we
1:47
have
1:47
with
1:47
us
1:47
Josie
1:48
Gibson.
1:48
She
1:49
is
1:49
an
1:49
expert
1:49
in
1:50
dianetics
1:50
and
1:50
helping
1:51
people
1:51
live
1:52
up
1:52
to
1:52
their
1:52
fullest
1:53
potential.
1:53
Welcome,
1:54
Josie.
1:55
Thank
1:55
you
1:55
for
1:55
having
1:56
me,
1:56
Tammy.
1:56
I'm
1:56
so
1:56
excited
1:57
to
1:57
talk
1:57
with
1:57
you
1:57
today.
1:58
Yeah,
1:59
rough
1:59
start
1:59
with
2:00
my
2:00
technology.
2:02
Logically
2:04
brilliant
2:04
person
2:06
in
2:06
the
2:06
planet.
2:08
We
2:08
all
2:08
have
2:09
something
2:09
technologically
2:10
that
2:10
we're
2:10
trying
2:10
to
2:11
still
2:11
figure
2:11
out.
2:12
Oh,
2:13
my
2:13
God.
2:14
I
2:14
was.
2:14
I
2:14
was
2:14
just
2:15
laughing.
2:15
I
2:15
think
2:15
we
2:15
were
2:15
talking
2:16
right
2:16
before
2:16
this
2:16
that
2:17
we
2:17
just.
2:17
I
2:17
just
2:17
had
2:17
an
2:18
interview
2:18
with
2:18
someone
2:18
that
2:19
was
2:19
like
2:19
one
2:19
of
2:19
the
2:19
first
2:20
people
2:20
on
2:21
Facebook,
2:22
like
2:22
a
2:22
bigger,
2:23
you
2:23
know,
2:23
corporate
2:23
person
2:24
in
2:24
Facebook
2:25
working
2:25
right
2:25
along
2:26
Mark
2:26
Zuckerberg.
2:27
And
2:28
he
2:28
said
2:28
when
2:29
he
2:29
got
2:29
the
2:29
call,
2:31
he
2:31
literally
2:31
didn't
2:32
even
2:32
answer
2:32
them
2:32
back
2:33
because
2:33
he
2:33
was
2:34
like,
2:34
I
2:34
don't
2:34
know
2:34
what
2:34
Facebook
2:35
is.
2:35
I
2:35
mean,
2:35
it
2:35
was
2:35
brand
2:36
new,
2:36
you
2:36
know,
2:36
and
2:37
it
2:37
like,
2:38
he's
2:38
more
2:38
my
2:38
generation
2:39
than
2:39
the
2:39
19
2:40
and
2:40
20
2:40
year
2:40
olds
2:41
that
2:41
were
2:41
all
2:41
on
2:41
Facebook
2:42
back
2:42
in
2:42
the
2:42
90s.
2:43
But
2:43
it
2:43
was
2:43
so
2:43
funny.
2:44
He
2:44
didn't
2:44
even
2:44
answer
2:44
Mark
2:44
back.
2:45
He
2:45
was
2:45
like,
2:45
man,
2:45
I
2:45
don't
2:46
know
2:46
what
2:46
that
2:46
is.
2:46
I
2:46
don't
2:46
think
2:46
I
2:47
need
2:47
it.
2:47
And
2:47
somebody
2:48
was
2:48
like,
2:48
that's
2:49
Facebook.
2:51
You
2:52
better
2:52
take
2:52
that.
2:53
Yeah,
2:53
I
2:53
would.
2:54
That's
2:54
a
2:54
call
2:54
I
2:54
might
2:55
possibly
2:55
take.
2:56
So
2:56
anyway,
2:57
we're
2:57
just
2:58
going
2:58
to
2:58
jump
2:58
right
2:58
in.
2:59
I
2:59
just
2:59
want
2:59
to
2:59
thank
2:59
you
2:59
for
3:00
coming.
3:02
Being
3:02
the
3:03
name
3:03
is
3:03
of
3:03
the
3:04
podcast.
3:04
You
3:04
said
3:04
you
3:05
heard
3:05
a
3:05
couple
3:05
episodes
3:06
as
3:06
adult
3:06
child
3:06
of
3:07
dysfunction.
3:07
Our
3:08
stories
3:08
are
3:08
all
3:09
of
3:09
hope
3:09
and
3:09
healing
3:10
and
3:10
learning
3:10
different
3:11
ways
3:11
to
3:11
look
3:11
at
3:12
life.
3:12
And
3:13
we
3:13
all
3:14
struggle.
3:14
I
3:14
mean,
3:15
we've
3:15
all
3:15
had
3:16
struggles
3:16
and
3:18
you
3:18
don't
3:18
need
3:18
to
3:19
have
3:19
this
3:19
as
3:20
a
3:20
child,
3:20
you
3:20
didn't
3:21
need
3:21
to
3:21
have
3:21
this
3:22
tremendously
3:23
awful
3:24
life
3:24
to
3:25
experience
3:25
some
3:25
kind
3:26
of
3:26
childhood
3:26
trauma.
3:28
And
3:28
because.
3:29
Right.
3:29
Because
3:30
of
3:30
that,
3:30
we
3:30
look
3:30
at
3:30
the
3:31
world
3:31
a
3:31
little
3:31
differently
3:32
sometimes.
3:33
So
3:33
let's
3:33
jump
3:34
right
3:34
in.
3:34
Let's
3:34
talk
3:34
about
3:35
what
3:35
Dianetics
3:36
is.
3:36
Yeah,
3:37
well,
3:38
Dianetics
3:39
itself.
3:40
It's
3:40
Dianetics
3:40
the
3:41
Modern
3:41
Science
3:41
of
3:41
Mental
3:42
Health.
3:42
And
3:42
this
3:42
is
3:42
a
3:42
book
3:43
and
3:43
also
3:43
a
3:43
study
3:44
and
3:45
science
3:45
of
3:45
the
3:46
mind.
3:47
And
3:47
it
3:48
was
3:48
discovered
3:48
by
3:48
the
3:49
author
3:49
L.
3:49
Ron
3:49
Hubbard
3:50
that
3:50
there
3:50
was
3:51
a
3:51
previously
3:52
unknown
3:52
and
3:53
hidden,
3:53
hidden
3:53
portion
3:54
of
3:54
our
3:54
mind
3:55
which
3:55
we
3:55
typically
3:56
know
3:56
as
3:56
the
3:57
subconscious
3:57
mind.
3:58
But
3:59
did
3:59
you
3:59
know
4:00
that
4:00
there
4:00
is
4:00
actually
4:00
a
4:01
name
4:01
for
4:01
this?
4:01
And
4:02
it
4:02
is
4:02
called
4:02
the
4:02
reactive
4:03
mind.
4:04
And
4:05
this
4:05
is
4:05
the
4:05
part
4:05
of
4:06
the
4:06
mind
4:06
that
4:06
actually
4:06
causes
4:07
us
4:07
to
4:08
have
4:08
irrational
4:09
behaviors
4:10
and
4:10
irrational
4:11
thoughts
4:12
and
4:12
have,
4:13
you
4:13
know,
4:13
insecurities
4:14
and
4:15
self
4:15
doubts
4:16
and
4:16
those
4:16
things
4:17
about
4:17
ourselves
4:18
that
4:18
we
4:18
really
4:19
don't
4:19
like
4:19
or
4:20
that
4:20
we're
4:20
trying
4:20
to
4:21
improve
4:21
about
4:21
ourselves,
4:22
or
4:22
those
4:22
are
4:23
all
4:23
stored
4:24
and
4:24
root
4:25
from
4:25
this
4:26
reactive
4:26
mind.
4:27
And
4:28
the
4:28
reason
4:28
for
4:28
that
4:29
is
4:29
that
4:29
as
4:30
you
4:30
were
4:30
saying,
4:30
we
4:31
have
4:31
past
4:32
traumas
4:33
in
4:33
our
4:33
life.
4:33
Right.
4:33
Like
4:34
childhood
4:34
and
4:35
beyond.
4:35
We
4:35
have
4:36
past
4:37
traumas
4:38
and
4:38
these
4:39
can
4:39
be
4:39
anything
4:39
from
4:39
a
4:40
physical
4:40
trauma
4:40
to
4:41
an
4:41
emotional
4:42
trauma.
4:42
But
4:43
regardless,
4:43
it
4:44
is
4:44
something
4:44
that
4:44
has
4:45
really
4:45
impacted
4:46
our
4:46
life.
4:46
Right.
4:47
And
4:47
so
4:48
back,
4:49
let's
4:49
say,
4:49
you
4:50
know,
4:50
we
4:50
have
4:50
these
4:50
engrams,
4:51
which
4:51
are
4:52
recordings
4:53
of
4:53
moments
4:54
of
4:54
pain
4:55
and
4:55
unconsciousness.
4:57
And
4:57
these
4:58
recordings
4:59
and
4:59
engrams
4:59
or,
5:00
are
5:00
stored
5:01
in
5:01
the
5:01
reactive
5:01
mind.
5:02
And
5:02
what
5:02
happens
5:02
is
5:03
that
5:03
later
5:03
in
5:03
life
5:04
they
5:04
can
5:05
get
5:05
triggered
5:06
and
5:06
cause
5:06
us
5:07
to
5:07
lash
5:07
out
5:08
in
5:08
moments
5:08
when
5:08
we
5:08
don't
5:09
really
5:09
want
5:09
to
5:09
or
5:10
we
5:10
don't
5:10
know
5:10
why
5:11
it's
5:11
happening.
5:12
And
5:12
it
5:12
also
5:12
can
5:13
cause
5:13
us
5:13
to
5:13
have
5:14
those
5:14
moments
5:15
of
5:15
insecurity
5:15
or
5:16
self
5:16
doubt
5:17
or
5:17
you
5:17
know,
5:18
even
5:18
moments
5:18
of
5:19
like
5:19
irrational
5:20
thoughts
5:21
that
5:21
we're
5:21
having.
5:22
Those
5:22
all
5:23
stem
5:23
from
5:24
that
5:24
reactive
5:24
mind
5:25
and
5:25
those
5:25
moments
5:25
getting
5:26
triggered
5:27
in
5:27
our
5:27
life.
5:28
Well,
5:28
it's
5:28
funny
5:28
because
5:29
on
5:29
this
5:29
podcast
5:29
we
5:30
do
5:30
a
5:30
lot
5:30
of
5:30
talking
5:30
about
5:31
managing
5:31
triggers
5:32
and
5:32
stuff
5:32
like
5:32
that,
5:32
but
5:33
I
5:33
mean,
5:33
that's
5:33
the
5:33
Dianetics
5:34
sounds
5:34
like
5:34
just
5:35
the
5:35
basis
5:35
of
5:35
what
5:35
we
5:36
talk
5:36
about,
5:36
of
5:36
that
5:36
subconscious
5:37
mind.
5:37
And
5:38
totally.
5:39
And
5:39
you
5:39
do?
5:40
I
5:40
sometimes.
5:41
I
5:41
mean,
5:41
I'm
5:41
58
5:42
years
5:42
old.
5:42
I've
5:42
been
5:43
doing
5:43
this
5:43
healing
5:44
thing
5:44
for
5:44
many
5:44
decades
5:45
and
5:45
still
5:45
sometimes,
5:46
sometimes
5:46
I'll
5:47
snap
5:47
at
5:47
something
5:48
and
5:48
I'll
5:48
be
5:48
like,
5:48
whoa,
5:49
that
5:49
was
5:50
the
5:50
five
5:50
year
5:50
old
5:50
me.
5:51
Like,
5:51
where
5:52
did
5:52
that
5:52
come
5:53
from?
5:53
Like,
5:53
that
5:53
is
5:54
not
5:54
who
5:54
I
5:54
am
5:55
exactly.
5:56
But
5:56
it's,
5:56
it's
5:57
something
5:57
that
5:57
happens.
5:58
And
5:58
you
5:59
know,
5:59
triggers
5:59
are
5:59
not,
6:01
they're
6:01
not
6:01
meant
6:01
to
6:01
be
6:02
ignored.
6:02
I
6:02
mean
6:02
they're.
6:03
But
6:03
you,
6:04
like
6:04
you
6:04
said,
6:04
they
6:04
kick
6:05
in
6:05
and
6:07
they
6:07
run
6:07
the
6:08
show
6:08
sometimes.
6:09
Totally.
6:09
You're
6:09
absolutely
6:10
correct.
6:10
I
6:11
mean,
6:11
the
6:11
reactive
6:12
mind
6:12
is
6:13
the
6:13
subconscious
6:14
part
6:14
of
6:14
our
6:14
mind.
6:14
And
6:15
because
6:15
it's
6:15
subconscious,
6:16
it's
6:16
acts
6:17
without
6:17
us
6:17
even
6:18
knowing.
6:19
And
6:19
that's
6:19
the
6:19
scary
6:20
thing
6:20
about
6:20
it
6:20
is
6:21
that
6:21
you
6:22
don't
6:22
actually
6:22
have
6:23
control
6:23
over
6:23
when
6:24
you
6:24
snap
6:25
or
6:25
when
6:25
you
6:25
have
6:25
that
6:26
moment
6:26
happen.
6:27
And
6:28
like
6:28
you
6:28
were
6:28
saying,
6:29
like
6:29
sometimes
6:29
you're
6:30
like,
6:30
that
6:30
was
6:30
five
6:31
year
6:31
old
6:31
me,
6:32
that's
6:32
happening
6:32
right
6:33
now
6:33
and
6:33
I'm
6:34
like
6:34
50
6:34
years
6:34
old.
6:35
Like,
6:35
what
6:35
am
6:35
I
6:35
doing
6:36
in
6:36
this
6:36
moment?
6:36
But
6:37
that's
6:37
the,
6:37
that's
6:38
the
6:38
unique
6:38
thing
6:38
about
6:38
Dianetics
6:39
is
6:39
that
6:40
even
6:40
just
6:41
simply
6:41
from
6:41
reading
6:41
the
6:42
book,
6:42
you
6:42
actually
6:42
discover
6:44
why
6:44
that
6:45
happens
6:45
and
6:46
how
6:46
to
6:46
actually
6:46
get
6:47
rid
6:47
of
6:47
it.
6:47
Because
6:47
Dianetics
6:48
is
6:48
not
6:48
only
6:49
a
6:49
science
6:50
of
6:50
the
6:50
mind,
6:50
but
6:50
it's
6:50
actually
6:50
a
6:51
technique
6:51
that
6:51
you
6:52
can
6:52
do
6:52
to
6:53
actually
6:53
alleviate
6:54
these
6:55
traumas,
6:56
get
6:56
rid
6:56
of
6:56
them
6:57
and
6:57
get
6:57
rid
6:57
of
6:57
the
6:57
reactive
6:58
mind
6:58
so
6:58
you
6:59
no
6:59
longer
6:59
store
7:00
these
7:01
irrational
7:02
moments
7:03
and
7:03
pains
7:03
and
7:04
traumas
7:04
that
7:04
are
7:05
really
7:05
affecting
7:05
us
7:06
later
7:06
in
7:06
our
7:06
life.
7:06
Because
7:07
let's
7:08
face
7:08
it,
7:08
when
7:08
we
7:08
don't
7:09
have
7:09
control
7:09
over
7:10
those
7:10
moments,
7:10
we
7:11
feel
7:11
a
7:11
bit
7:11
crazy
7:12
and
7:12
we
7:12
feel
7:13
a
7:13
bit
7:13
insane
7:13
in
7:14
that
7:14
moment.
7:14
And
7:15
we're
7:15
wondering,
7:16
why
7:16
did
7:16
that
7:16
happen?
7:17
Why
7:17
did
7:17
I
7:18
act
7:18
like
7:18
that?
7:19
I
7:19
wish
7:19
I
7:19
didn't
7:20
do
7:20
that.
7:20
And
7:21
that's
7:21
really
7:21
not
7:22
us.
7:23
Really.
7:23
We
7:24
are
7:24
logical,
7:25
we're
7:25
sane,
7:26
we
7:26
think
7:26
clearly
7:27
the
7:28
majority
7:28
of
7:28
the
7:28
time,
7:28
that's
7:29
how
7:29
we
7:29
act.
7:29
Right?
7:30
But
7:30
then
7:31
majority
7:31
of
7:31
the
7:31
time,
7:32
majority
7:32
of
7:32
the
7:33
time
7:33
we
7:33
hope,
7:34
but
7:34
you
7:35
know,
7:35
the
7:35
majority
7:35
of
7:35
the
7:35
time
7:36
we
7:36
are
7:36
very
7:37
rational
7:37
and
7:37
we
7:38
think
7:38
clearly.
7:39
But
7:39
then
7:39
we
7:39
have
7:40
those
7:40
moments
7:40
where
7:40
we
7:40
snap
7:41
or
7:41
we
7:41
break
7:42
and,
7:42
and
7:42
that's
7:43
the
7:43
reactive
7:43
mind
7:43
that
7:44
is
7:44
causing
7:44
us
7:44
to
7:45
act
7:46
irrationally
7:46
in
7:47
that
7:47
moment.
7:47
But
7:48
Dianetics
7:48
actually
7:48
addresses
7:49
those
7:49
moments
7:50
and
7:50
gets
7:51
rid
7:51
of
7:51
them.
7:51
So
7:51
you're
7:52
no
7:52
longer
7:52
holding
7:53
on
7:53
to
7:53
them
7:53
and
7:53
no
7:54
longer
7:54
affected
7:54
by
7:55
it.
7:56
So
7:56
talk
7:56
about
7:56
the,
7:57
the,
7:57
I
7:57
guess
7:57
the
7:58
modality
7:58
of,
7:59
you
7:59
know,
7:59
you
7:59
said
8:00
it's
8:00
a
8:00
theory,
8:00
it's
8:01
a
8:01
book.
8:01
I
8:02
mean,
8:02
it's
8:02
all
8:02
this
8:02
stuff.
8:03
So
8:03
is
8:03
it
8:04
hypnosis
8:04
or
8:05
how
8:05
are
8:05
we
8:05
getting
8:06
rid
8:06
of
8:06
these
8:07
reactive
8:08
mind
8:08
thoughts?
8:09
Yeah,
8:09
well,
8:09
it's
8:10
not
8:10
hypnosis.
8:11
It's
8:11
actually
8:11
a
8:11
very
8:12
specific
8:12
science
8:13
and
8:13
technique
8:14
that
8:14
you
8:14
do.
8:14
It's
8:15
very
8:15
precise.
8:15
And
8:16
literally
8:16
anybody
8:17
can
8:17
do
8:18
this
8:18
technique.
8:19
You
8:19
could
8:19
do
8:19
it,
8:20
you
8:20
know,
8:20
just
8:20
you
8:20
do
8:21
with
8:21
a
8:21
partner.
8:21
And
8:22
so
8:22
you
8:22
could
8:22
partner
8:22
up
8:23
with
8:23
one
8:23
of
8:23
your
8:23
friends
8:23
in
8:24
your
8:24
house
8:24
just
8:24
as
8:24
long
8:24
as
8:25
there's
8:25
a
8:25
quiet
8:25
space.
8:26
And
8:26
you
8:26
could
8:26
do
8:26
this
8:27
technique,
8:27
it's
8:28
obviously
8:29
all
8:29
described
8:29
in
8:30
the
8:30
book
8:30
Dianetics,
8:30
so
8:31
it
8:31
will
8:31
be
8:31
very
8:31
simple
8:32
for
8:32
anybody
8:32
to
8:32
read
8:33
it
8:33
and
8:33
to
8:33
apply
8:33
it.
8:34
But
8:35
just
8:35
to
8:36
give
8:36
you
8:36
a
8:36
little
8:36
bit
8:36
of
8:36
an
8:37
idea
8:37
of
8:37
how
8:37
this
8:37
works,
8:38
you
8:38
basically,
8:39
we
8:40
have
8:40
this.
8:40
These
8:40
moments
8:41
of
8:41
pain
8:41
and
8:41
unconsciousness,
8:42
right?
8:43
And
8:43
what
8:44
you're
8:44
doing
8:44
is
8:44
that
8:45
with
8:45
this
8:45
partner,
8:46
you're
8:46
locating
8:47
these
8:47
moments
8:47
because
8:48
sometimes
8:49
they're
8:49
hidden
8:50
and
8:50
we
8:50
don't
8:51
know
8:51
exactly
8:52
like
8:52
what
8:52
is
8:53
really
8:53
truly
8:54
affecting
8:54
us,
8:55
right?
8:55
So
8:55
we're
8:55
locating
8:56
these
8:56
moments
8:56
of
8:57
the
8:57
root
8:58
of
8:58
our
8:58
problems,
8:59
the
8:59
moment
8:59
of
9:00
pain
9:00
and
9:00
unconsciousness,
9:01
and
9:02
we're
9:02
actually
9:02
addressing
9:03
and
9:03
getting
9:03
rid
9:03
of
9:03
the
9:03
negative
9:04
mental
9:05
energy
9:06
or
9:06
charge
9:07
that's
9:07
connected
9:08
to
9:08
that
9:09
moment,
9:09
because
9:10
that's
9:10
what
9:10
we
9:10
really
9:10
are.
9:11
Are
9:11
acting
9:12
on
9:12
is
9:12
that
9:12
negative
9:13
mental
9:13
energy,
9:14
right?
9:14
And
9:15
that's
9:15
what
9:15
causes
9:15
us
9:16
to
9:16
snap
9:17
later
9:17
in
9:17
life.
9:18
And
9:18
so
9:18
when
9:18
you
9:18
address
9:19
that
9:19
and
9:19
you
9:19
get
9:20
rid
9:20
of
9:20
it,
9:21
you
9:21
are
9:21
just
9:21
simply
9:22
left
9:22
with
9:22
that
9:22
memory
9:23
that
9:24
doesn't
9:24
actually
9:24
have
9:25
hold
9:25
of
9:25
you
9:25
and
9:26
take
9:26
charge
9:26
of
9:26
you
9:27
any
9:27
longer.
9:28
And
9:28
as
9:28
you
9:29
use
9:29
the
9:29
Dianetics
9:30
technique,
9:30
you're
9:30
actually
9:31
able
9:31
to
9:32
completely,
9:33
one
9:33
by
9:33
one,
9:34
get
9:34
rid
9:34
of
9:34
all
9:34
the
9:35
negative
9:35
mental
9:36
energy
9:36
so
9:37
that
9:37
you
9:37
are
9:37
just
9:37
simply
9:38
you.
9:39
And
9:39
you
9:39
get
9:39
to
9:40
control
9:40
all
9:40
of
9:40
your
9:41
thoughts,
9:41
all
9:41
of
9:42
your
9:42
behaviors,
9:42
and
9:43
not
9:43
act
9:43
out
9:44
in
9:44
a
9:44
way
9:45
that
9:45
you
9:45
didn't
9:45
actually
9:46
mean
9:46
to
9:46
or
9:46
you
9:46
didn't
9:47
want
9:47
to.
9:47
You're
9:47
simply
9:47
just
9:48
left
9:48
as
9:48
you.
9:49
And
9:49
that's
9:49
the
9:49
beautiful
9:50
thing
9:50
about
9:50
it,
9:51
you
9:51
know?
9:51
Yes.
9:52
And
9:52
it
9:52
sounds.
9:53
I
9:53
mean,
9:53
it.
9:53
Is
9:54
it
9:54
a
9:54
long
9:54
process,
9:55
Is
9:55
it
9:55
a
9:55
short
9:55
process,
9:56
or.
9:57
Yeah,
9:57
I
9:57
mean,
9:57
it
9:57
takes
9:58
as
9:58
long
9:58
as
9:58
it.
9:59
As
9:59
it
9:59
takes.
10:00
Because,
10:00
look,
10:00
we
10:01
all
10:01
have
10:02
different
10:02
experiences
10:03
in
10:03
our
10:03
life.
10:03
I
10:03
mean,
10:04
for
10:04
one.
10:05
For
10:05
one
10:05
person
10:05
to
10:06
the
10:06
other,
10:06
we
10:06
all
10:06
have
10:07
different
10:07
memories,
10:07
different
10:08
experiences
10:08
in
10:09
our
10:09
life.
10:09
But
10:09
it
10:10
doesn't
10:10
have
10:10
to
10:11
take
10:11
long
10:11
at
10:12
all.
10:12
And
10:13
really,
10:13
the
10:13
end
10:14
of
10:14
doing
10:15
the
10:15
Dynamics
10:15
technique,
10:16
as
10:16
you
10:16
continue
10:17
to
10:17
use
10:17
it,
10:17
you
10:18
actually
10:18
achieve
10:18
a
10:19
state
10:19
called
10:19
clear.
10:21
And
10:21
that
10:21
is
10:21
simply
10:22
just
10:22
someone
10:22
who
10:22
no
10:23
longer
10:23
has
10:23
a
10:24
reactive
10:24
mind.
10:25
Because
10:25
that's
10:25
the
10:26
goal
10:26
of
10:26
Dianetics,
10:26
is
10:27
to
10:27
actually
10:27
get
10:27
rid
10:28
of
10:28
this
10:28
reactive
10:28
mind
10:29
so
10:29
that
10:29
you
10:30
are
10:30
not
10:30
controlled
10:31
by
10:31
it.
10:32
And
10:32
to
10:33
further
10:33
elaborate
10:33
on
10:34
that,
10:34
you
10:34
actually
10:34
have
10:35
two
10:35
parts
10:36
of
10:36
the
10:36
mind.
10:37
And
10:37
it.
10:37
And
10:37
it
10:38
was
10:38
discovered
10:38
in
10:38
Dianetics,
10:39
like,
10:40
you
10:40
have
10:40
two
10:40
parts
10:41
and
10:41
you
10:41
have
10:41
the
10:42
irrational
10:42
part.
10:43
Like
10:43
I
10:43
was
10:43
saying,
10:43
you
10:44
have
10:44
the,
10:44
you
10:44
know,
10:45
that
10:45
reactive
10:46
mind
10:46
that
10:47
reacts
10:47
in
10:47
moments
10:48
when
10:48
you
10:48
were
10:48
just,
10:48
like,
10:49
so
10:50
upset
10:50
or
10:51
maybe
10:51
you're
10:51
really
10:51
sad
10:52
or
10:52
just
10:52
those
10:52
moments
10:53
when
10:53
you're
10:53
under
10:53
pain
10:53
and
10:54
duress
10:54
or
10:55
stress
10:55
or.
10:55
Or
10:55
anxiety.
10:56
And
10:57
that
10:57
mind
10:57
will
10:57
get
10:58
triggered
10:59
what
10:59
the
11:00
other
11:00
part
11:00
of
11:00
the
11:00
mind
11:01
is,
11:01
is
11:01
the
11:01
good
11:01
part,
11:02
and
11:02
that's
11:02
the
11:02
analytical
11:03
mind.
11:04
And
11:04
that's
11:04
the
11:04
part
11:05
where
11:05
you
11:05
think
11:05
very
11:06
clearly
11:06
and
11:07
you
11:07
calculate,
11:07
you
11:08
solve
11:08
problems.
11:08
You're
11:09
creative,
11:09
you're
11:10
joyful
11:11
and
11:11
happy.
11:12
And
11:12
that's
11:12
really
11:13
the
11:13
goal,
11:13
is
11:13
that
11:13
you
11:14
are.
11:14
You
11:14
are
11:15
just
11:15
you.
11:16
Because
11:16
that's
11:16
what
11:16
the
11:16
analytical
11:17
mind
11:17
is.
11:18
It's
11:18
just
11:18
simply
11:19
you,
11:19
without
11:20
all
11:20
of
11:20
those
11:20
traumatizing
11:21
moments
11:22
built
11:22
up
11:22
on
11:22
top
11:23
of
11:23
you.
11:23
Because
11:24
we
11:24
have
11:24
so
11:25
many
11:25
memories
11:25
and
11:26
moments
11:26
in
11:26
our
11:26
life
11:27
when,
11:27
whether
11:27
they're
11:28
positive
11:28
or
11:28
negative,
11:29
they
11:29
build
11:29
up,
11:29
right?
11:30
And
11:30
then
11:31
they
11:31
build
11:31
up
11:31
to
11:31
a
11:31
point
11:32
where
11:32
we're
11:32
stuck
11:32
down
11:33
here,
11:34
we're
11:34
stuck
11:34
down
11:34
in
11:35
the
11:35
bottom,
11:35
and
11:35
we're
11:36
like,
11:36
where
11:36
am
11:36
I?
11:37
I'm
11:37
like
11:37
this
11:37
shiny,
11:38
bright
11:38
light.
11:39
And
11:39
as
11:39
we
11:39
go
11:40
throughout
11:40
life,
11:40
our
11:41
light
11:41
gets
11:41
dimmed.
11:42
But
11:43
Dianetics
11:43
actually
11:44
helps
11:44
you
11:44
to
11:45
really
11:45
get
11:46
rid
11:46
of
11:47
all
11:47
these
11:47
traumatizing
11:48
moments
11:49
so
11:49
that
11:49
you
11:49
are
11:50
that
11:50
bright
11:51
shining
11:51
light
11:52
that
11:52
you
11:52
know
11:53
that
11:53
you
11:53
are.
11:54
That's
11:55
amazing.
11:55
And
11:55
I'm.
11:56
I'm
11:56
just
11:57
going
11:57
to
11:57
tell
11:57
everybody
11:58
now.
11:58
Just
11:58
reach
11:58
out
11:59
and
11:59
get
11:59
the
11:59
book.
11:59
Listen
12:00
to
12:00
it
12:00
on
12:00
audio.
12:00
I
12:00
mean,
12:01
whatever.
12:01
Because,
12:02
I
12:02
mean,
12:02
that's
12:03
what
12:03
we
12:03
work
12:03
with.
12:03
That's
12:03
what
12:04
I
12:04
work
12:04
with
12:04
my
12:04
clients
12:04
with.
12:05
And
12:05
it
12:05
is
12:06
so
12:06
funny
12:06
how,
12:07
like
12:07
you
12:08
said,
12:08
many
12:08
of
12:09
these
12:09
memories
12:09
there
12:09
are,
12:10
and
12:10
then
12:10
it
12:10
could
12:10
just
12:10
be
12:11
one.
12:12
So
12:12
it's
12:12
like
12:13
I
12:13
had
12:14
a
12:14
client
12:14
that
12:15
just
12:15
had
12:15
this
12:15
unbelievable
12:16
sense
12:17
of
12:18
being
12:18
unlovable
12:19
by
12:19
her
12:19
mother.
12:20
And
12:20
I
12:20
was
12:20
like,
12:21
you
12:22
know,
12:22
And
12:22
I'm
12:23
like,
12:23
oh,
12:23
I
12:23
get
12:23
it.
12:23
My
12:24
mom
12:24
told
12:24
me
12:24
she
12:24
hated
12:24
me
12:25
every
12:25
day
12:25
of
12:25
my
12:25
life.
12:25
And
12:26
she's
12:26
like,
12:26
but
12:26
my
12:27
mom
12:27
didn't.
12:28
And
12:29
so
12:29
we
12:29
had
12:29
to
12:30
go
12:30
back,
12:30
and
12:30
we
12:30
really
12:31
spent
12:31
some
12:31
time
12:32
and,
12:32
you
12:32
know,
12:32
and
12:33
then
12:33
finally
12:34
one
12:34
day,
12:34
it
12:34
was
12:34
maybe
12:34
three.
12:35
Three
12:35
times.
12:35
We
12:36
had
12:36
talked
12:36
two
12:36
or
12:37
three
12:37
times,
12:37
and
12:37
she
12:37
kept
12:37
dropping
12:38
it
12:38
and
12:38
go
12:38
back
12:38
to
12:38
other
12:39
stuff.
12:39
But
12:39
then
12:39
one
12:39
day
12:40
I
12:40
said,
12:41
let's
12:41
go
12:41
back
12:42
to.
12:43
Let's
12:43
talk
12:44
about
12:44
your
12:44
best
12:44
friend,
12:45
right?
12:45
Yes.
12:46
I
12:46
said,
12:46
how
12:46
was
12:47
that?
12:47
Did
12:47
you
12:47
have
12:47
a
12:47
best
12:48
friend?
12:48
And
12:49
she
12:49
said,
12:49
yeah.
12:49
And
12:50
I
12:50
said,
12:50
oh,
12:50
did
12:50
you
12:50
have
12:50
sleepovers?
12:52
And
12:52
it
12:52
was
12:52
like
12:52
the
12:53
light
12:53
went
12:53
off.
12:53
And
12:54
she
12:54
said,
12:54
oh,
12:54
my
12:55
God,
12:55
Tammy,
12:55
one
12:56
time
12:56
I
12:56
had
12:56
a
12:56
sleepover
12:57
at
12:57
my
12:57
house
12:58
with
12:58
a
12:58
bunch
12:58
of
12:58
girls.
12:59
And
12:59
she
13:00
said,
13:00
and
13:00
my
13:00
mother
13:00
had
13:01
gotten
13:01
a
13:01
new
13:01
job.
13:02
And
13:02
so
13:03
she
13:03
was
13:03
late
13:03
to
13:03
pick
13:03
me
13:04
up
13:04
three
13:04
times
13:04
that
13:05
week.
13:05
I
13:05
was
13:05
in
13:06
first
13:06
grade.
13:07
She
13:07
said,
13:08
and
13:08
my
13:08
friend,
13:09
she
13:09
goes,
13:09
I
13:10
remember
13:10
it
13:10
like
13:10
it
13:11
was
13:11
yesterday,
13:11
but
13:11
I
13:12
hadn't
13:12
thought
13:12
about
13:12
it
13:12
in
13:12
40
13:13
years.
13:14
She
13:14
said,
13:14
my
13:14
friend
13:15
said,
13:15
to
13:15
me,
13:16
your
13:16
mother
13:16
must
13:17
not
13:17
love
13:17
you.
13:17
She
13:18
didn't
13:18
pick
13:18
you
13:18
up
13:18
on
13:18
time.
13:20
Wow.
13:21
So
13:22
it
13:22
gives
13:23
me
13:23
goosebumps
13:23
to
13:23
this
13:24
day
13:24
because
13:24
I'm
13:24
thinking,
13:25
oh,
13:25
my
13:25
God.
13:25
That
13:25
had
13:26
the
13:26
same
13:26
effect
13:27
on
13:27
her
13:27
as
13:27
my
13:28
mother
13:28
literally
13:28
telling
13:29
me
13:29
every
13:29
day
13:29
she
13:29
hated
13:30
me.
13:30
Right.
13:31
So
13:31
that
13:32
wasn't
13:32
a
13:32
big
13:32
T
13:33
trauma,
13:33
like
13:33
what
13:34
you
13:34
consider
13:34
a
13:34
big
13:35
T
13:35
trauma.
13:35
It
13:35
was
13:36
one
13:36
comment
13:36
by
13:37
one
13:37
little
13:37
girl
13:38
that
13:38
dug
13:39
into
13:39
her
13:39
brain,
13:39
and
13:40
she
13:40
now
13:40
felt
13:41
that
13:41
her
13:41
mother
13:41
didn't
13:42
love
13:42
her.
13:42
Yeah.
13:43
And
13:43
those
13:44
are
13:44
the
13:44
kind
13:44
of
13:44
memories,
13:45
I'm
13:45
assuming
13:46
you're
13:46
talking
13:46
about
13:46
going
13:47
back
13:47
to
13:47
that
13:47
and
13:47
figuring
13:48
out
13:48
that.
13:48
That
13:48
trigger
13:49
point,
13:50
because,
13:51
you
13:51
know,
13:51
it
13:52
changed
13:52
her
13:52
whole
13:52
life.
13:53
She
13:53
was
13:53
now
13:53
47
13:54
years
13:54
old,
13:54
and
13:54
she
13:54
was
13:55
still.
13:55
Still
13:56
holding
13:56
on
13:56
to.
13:57
Still
13:57
holding
13:57
on
13:58
to
13:58
this.
13:58
Yeah,
13:59
Yeah.
13:59
I
13:59
mean,
14:01
go
14:01
ahead.
14:01
Do
14:01
you
14:01
want
14:01
to
14:02
finish?
14:02
I
14:02
just
14:02
cut
14:02
you
14:03
off.
14:03
Sorry.
14:04
You're
14:04
good.
14:04
You're
14:04
good.
14:05
But,
14:05
like,
14:05
to
14:05
your
14:06
point,
14:06
there
14:06
are
14:07
a
14:07
couple
14:08
different
14:08
types
14:08
of
14:09
what
14:09
we
14:09
call
14:09
in
14:09
dianetics,
14:10
engrams,
14:11
Right.
14:11
And
14:11
these
14:12
moments
14:12
of
14:12
pain
14:12
and
14:13
unconsciousness.
14:13
That's
14:14
what
14:14
an
14:14
engram
14:14
is.
14:15
And
14:16
so
14:16
there's
14:16
a
14:16
couple
14:17
different
14:17
types
14:17
where
14:18
you
14:18
can
14:18
have
14:19
these
14:19
really
14:19
emotional
14:20
moments
14:21
and
14:22
heavy
14:22
emotions,
14:23
such
14:23
as,
14:23
like,
14:24
grief,
14:24
for
14:24
example,
14:25
like
14:25
the
14:26
fear
14:26
of
14:26
losing
14:26
a
14:27
loved
14:27
one
14:27
or
14:27
having
14:28
lost
14:28
a
14:28
loved
14:28
one.
14:29
That's
14:29
a
14:29
super
14:30
heavy
14:31
emotion
14:31
for
14:32
anybody
14:32
to
14:32
deal
14:33
with.
14:33
And
14:33
so
14:33
you
14:34
can
14:34
have
14:34
really
14:34
emotional
14:35
moments,
14:35
even
14:36
anger,
14:36
for
14:36
example,
14:37
if
14:37
you
14:37
ever
14:37
had,
14:38
like,
14:38
a
14:38
major,
14:39
major
14:39
argument
14:40
with
14:40
a
14:40
loved
14:41
one,
14:41
that
14:42
is
14:42
also,
14:42
there's
14:42
a
14:43
moment
14:43
when
14:43
you
14:44
kind
14:44
of
14:44
blank
14:45
out,
14:45
right.
14:45
And
14:46
you're
14:46
like,
14:46
I
14:46
don't
14:46
know
14:47
what
14:47
I'm
14:47
saying
14:47
anymore.
14:47
I
14:48
don't
14:48
remember
14:48
my
14:48
arguments.
14:49
I'd
14:49
like,
14:50
you
14:50
know,
14:50
whatever.
14:50
Right.
14:51
And
14:51
so
14:52
that
14:52
was
14:52
a
14:52
really
14:52
heavily
14:53
charged
14:53
moments
14:54
of
14:54
emotion.
14:55
And
14:55
then
14:56
we
14:56
also
14:56
have
14:56
our
14:56
physical
14:58
pain
14:58
and
14:58
unconsciousness.
14:59
So,
14:59
like,
15:01
really
15:01
good
15:01
example.
15:02
A
15:02
surgery.
15:03
You
15:03
know,
15:03
like,
15:04
if
15:04
you
15:04
ever
15:04
have
15:04
gone
15:05
in
15:05
and
15:05
gotten
15:05
a
15:05
surgery,
15:06
maybe
15:06
at
15:07
that
15:07
moment,
15:07
the
15:08
doctor
15:08
is
15:08
saying
15:09
something
15:09
like,
15:10
oh,
15:10
well,
15:10
we
15:11
can't
15:11
save
15:11
the
15:12
leg,
15:12
or
15:13
something
15:13
like
15:13
that.
15:14
And
15:14
then
15:14
later
15:14
down
15:15
the
15:15
road,
15:15
something's
15:16
wrong
15:16
with
15:16
your
15:16
leg
15:17
because
15:17
your
15:17
mind
15:18
is
15:18
thinking
15:18
and
15:19
recording
15:19
in
15:19
that
15:20
very
15:20
moment,
15:21
but
15:21
now
15:21
it's
15:21
acting
15:22
subconsciously
15:23
against
15:23
you.
15:23
And
15:24
now
15:24
your
15:24
leg
15:24
is,
15:24
like,
15:25
messed
15:25
up,
15:26
you
15:26
know,
15:26
or
15:27
even
15:27
just
15:27
simply,
15:28
like,
15:28
I
15:28
knew
15:29
somebody
15:29
who
15:29
said
15:29
that
15:30
they
15:30
had
15:30
a
15:31
surgery,
15:31
and
15:31
then
15:31
they.
15:32
The
15:32
doctor
15:33
was
15:33
saying,
15:33
like,
15:33
it's
15:34
really
15:34
hot
15:34
in
15:34
here.
15:35
And
15:36
then
15:36
later
15:36
down
15:37
the
15:37
road,
15:37
anytime
15:37
she
15:38
went
15:38
to
15:38
the
15:38
hospital
15:38
or
15:39
somebody,
15:39
there
15:39
was
15:40
some
15:40
like.
15:40
Like,
15:41
basically
15:42
environment
15:42
that
15:42
was
15:43
similar
15:43
to
15:44
that
15:45
moment
15:45
in
15:45
the
15:45
past.
15:46
She
15:46
would
15:47
get
15:47
really
15:47
hot.
15:48
And
15:48
it
15:48
wasn't
15:49
until
15:49
she
15:49
addressed
15:50
the
15:50
actual
15:50
root
15:51
and
15:51
the.
15:51
And
15:51
like
15:52
the
15:52
source
15:52
of
15:53
it,
15:53
which
15:53
was
15:53
in
15:53
the
15:53
reactive
15:54
mind,
15:54
that
15:55
she
15:55
actually
15:55
was
15:55
able
15:56
to
15:56
be
15:56
like,
15:57
wow,
15:57
I
15:57
can
15:57
look
15:57
at
15:58
this
15:58
situation
15:58
and
15:58
be
15:59
in
15:59
this
15:59
environment
15:59
and
16:00
not
16:00
feel
16:01
really
16:01
hot
16:01
irrationally.
16:02
Right.
16:04
And
16:05
to
16:05
your
16:05
point,
16:05
I
16:06
have
16:06
a
16:06
friend
16:06
who's
16:06
very
16:07
similar
16:07
to
16:08
this
16:08
person
16:08
you
16:08
were
16:08
just
16:09
talking
16:09
to.
16:10
And
16:11
she
16:11
had
16:12
watched
16:12
her
16:13
best
16:13
friend
16:14
actually
16:15
die
16:15
in
16:15
a
16:15
fire,
16:16
in
16:16
a
16:16
house
16:16
fire.
16:17
And
16:18
it
16:18
was
16:19
so
16:19
traumatizing.
16:20
I
16:21
mean,
16:21
that
16:21
like,
16:23
I
16:23
could
16:23
never
16:23
imagine
16:24
that
16:25
happening.
16:25
Right?
16:26
And
16:26
it
16:26
was
16:26
her
16:26
best
16:27
friend
16:27
and
16:27
she
16:28
lived
16:28
right
16:28
across
16:28
the.
16:29
Right
16:29
across
16:30
the
16:30
street
16:30
from
16:30
her.
16:31
So
16:31
every
16:31
time
16:32
that
16:32
she
16:32
walked
16:32
out
16:32
of
16:32
her
16:33
house,
16:33
she
16:33
was
16:33
seeing
16:34
that
16:34
house
16:35
and
16:35
constantly
16:36
being
16:36
reminded
16:37
of
16:37
that.
16:37
And
16:37
then
16:38
it
16:38
gets
16:38
triggered,
16:39
or
16:39
what
16:39
we
16:39
call
16:40
in
16:40
Dianetics,
16:40
re
16:40
stimulated
16:42
into
16:42
the
16:42
present.
16:43
And
16:43
so
16:44
from
16:44
there
16:44
she's
16:44
like,
16:45
well,
16:45
I'm
16:45
not
16:45
going
16:46
to
16:46
trust
16:46
anybody
16:46
and
16:47
I'm
16:47
not
16:47
going
16:47
to
16:47
let
16:47
anybody
16:48
love
16:48
me
16:48
from
16:48
here
16:48
on
16:49
out,
16:49
because
16:49
I
16:49
love
16:50
that
16:50
person
16:50
and
16:50
that
16:51
person
16:51
was
16:51
taken
16:51
away
16:52
from
16:52
me.
16:53
And
16:53
she
16:53
carried
16:53
that
16:54
out
16:54
throughout
16:54
her
16:54
entire
16:54
life,
16:55
even
16:55
to
16:55
the
16:55
degree
16:56
of
16:56
not
16:56
being
16:57
able
16:57
to
16:57
differentiate
16:58
that
16:58
with
16:59
relationships.
17:00
I
17:01
mean,
17:01
she
17:01
was
17:01
just
17:01
like,
17:02
toxic
17:02
relationship
17:03
as
17:03
the
17:03
next
17:03
toxic
17:04
relationship.
17:04
And
17:05
I
17:05
have
17:05
to
17:05
be
17:05
the
17:05
first
17:06
one
17:06
to
17:06
break
17:06
it
17:06
off
17:07
because
17:07
I
17:08
cannot
17:08
let
17:08
anybody
17:09
actually
17:09
truly
17:09
love
17:10
me
17:10
because
17:11
they'll
17:11
be
17:11
taken
17:11
away
17:12
from
17:12
me.
17:13
And
17:13
that's
17:13
how
17:13
the
17:14
reactive
17:14
mind
17:14
works,
17:15
is
17:15
that
17:15
it
17:15
actually
17:15
doesn't.
17:16
It
17:16
doesn't
17:16
think
17:17
clearly
17:17
and
17:17
it
17:18
thinks
17:18
like
17:18
on
17:18
a.
17:19
Everything
17:19
is
17:20
the
17:20
same
17:20
as
17:20
everything
17:21
else.
17:21
Like
17:21
one
17:21
thing
17:22
was
17:22
bad.
17:22
And
17:22
so
17:23
everything
17:23
else
17:23
that's
17:23
similar
17:24
in
17:24
any
17:24
regard
17:25
is
17:26
going
17:26
to
17:26
be
17:26
exactly
17:26
like
17:27
that
17:27
first
17:27
incident.
17:28
And
17:29
so
17:29
then
17:29
my
17:29
friend,
17:29
actually,
17:30
she
17:30
addressed
17:31
this.
17:32
This
17:32
actual
17:32
like,
17:33
moment
17:33
of
17:33
pain
17:34
and
17:34
unconsciousness.
17:35
And
17:35
she
17:35
was
17:36
with
17:36
Dianetics
17:37
and
17:37
she
17:37
was
17:37
actually
17:37
able
17:38
to
17:38
spot
17:38
the
17:38
exact
17:39
reason
17:40
that
17:40
that
17:40
happened.
17:40
Get
17:41
rid
17:41
of
17:41
it.
17:42
And
17:42
she
17:42
was
17:42
able
17:42
to
17:43
now
17:43
have
17:44
a
17:44
wonderful
17:45
relationship.
17:45
She's
17:46
married
17:46
of
17:46
like
17:46
20
17:47
something
17:47
years
17:48
and
17:48
has
17:48
beautiful
17:49
children
17:49
and
17:50
so
17:50
on.
17:51
You
17:51
know,
17:51
you
17:51
really
17:52
have
17:52
to
17:52
get
17:52
to
17:52
the
17:52
roots
17:53
and
17:53
find
17:54
what
17:54
the
17:55
source
17:55
is
17:55
of
17:56
all
17:56
of
17:56
your
17:56
traumas.
17:57
Right?
17:58
And
17:58
it's
17:58
funny
17:58
that
17:59
you
17:59
talked
17:59
about
17:59
like
18:00
the
18:01
sensories
18:02
too,
18:02
because
18:03
it
18:03
couldn't
18:03
be
18:04
a
18:04
physical
18:04
trauma
18:04
and
18:05
sensory
18:05
things
18:06
literally.
18:07
And
18:07
it's
18:07
like
18:08
when
18:08
that
18:08
trauma
18:08
happens,
18:09
kind
18:09
of
18:09
like
18:09
you
18:09
said,
18:10
you're
18:10
frozen
18:10
in
18:10
that
18:10
moment
18:11
of
18:11
time.
18:11
It's
18:11
like
18:12
a
18:12
snapshot
18:13
into
18:13
this
18:14
reactive
18:14
mind
18:15
of
18:15
that
18:15
moment
18:15
that
18:16
day
18:16
that
18:17
anything.
18:17
I
18:17
remember
18:18
one
18:18
time
18:19
I
18:19
had
18:19
a
18:19
bad
18:20
experience
18:20
on
18:20
a
18:21
leather
18:21
couch.
18:21
Let's
18:21
Just
18:22
put
18:22
it
18:22
that
18:22
way.
18:22
And
18:22
it
18:22
wasn't
18:23
one
18:23
of
18:23
my
18:23
best
18:23
moments
18:24
in
18:24
my
18:24
life.
18:25
And
18:26
I
18:27
remember
18:27
then,
18:28
like
18:28
years
18:28
later,
18:29
a
18:29
couple
18:29
of
18:29
years
18:29
later,
18:30
I
18:30
was
18:30
driving
18:30
with
18:31
my
18:31
dad
18:31
and
18:31
this
18:32
back
18:32
in
18:32
the
18:33
God,
18:33
80s,
18:34
and
18:34
he
18:34
had
18:34
bought
18:35
this
18:35
new
18:35
leather
18:35
recliner.
18:36
And
18:36
I
18:37
don't
18:37
know
18:37
what
18:37
possessed
18:38
me,
18:38
but
18:38
I
18:38
freaking
18:39
leaned
18:39
over
18:39
and
18:40
took
18:40
a
18:40
bite
18:40
out
18:40
of
18:41
the
18:41
arm
18:41
of
18:41
it.
18:45
I
18:45
got
18:45
beat,
18:46
let
18:46
me
18:46
tell
18:46
you.
18:47
But
18:47
I
18:48
don't
18:48
know
18:48
what
18:48
possessed
18:49
me
18:49
to
18:49
do
18:49
it
18:49
until
18:49
later.
18:50
I
18:50
figured
18:50
it
18:50
out
18:51
because
18:51
then
18:51
I
18:51
was
18:51
like,
18:52
oh
18:52
my
18:52
God,
18:52
it
18:52
was
18:52
that
18:52
smell
18:53
of
18:53
that
18:53
leather.
18:54
I
18:54
couldn't.
18:55
Because
18:55
I
18:55
could
18:55
never
18:56
sit
18:56
on
18:56
that
18:56
chair.
18:57
It
18:57
was
18:58
like
18:58
I
18:58
couldn't
18:58
do
18:59
it.
18:59
And
18:59
of
18:59
course
19:00
then
19:00
through
19:00
therapy
19:01
and
19:01
stuff,
19:01
they
19:01
were
19:01
talking
19:02
one
19:02
day
19:02
about
19:02
senses.
19:03
And
19:03
I
19:03
was
19:03
like,
19:03
oh
19:04
my
19:04
gosh,
19:04
you're
19:05
so
19:05
right.
19:05
Like,
19:06
that's
19:06
why
19:06
I
19:06
bit
19:07
that
19:07
leather
19:07
chair.
19:09
It's
19:10
kind
19:10
of
19:10
funny
19:10
now.
19:10
So
19:11
funny.
19:11
Oh
19:12
my
19:12
gosh.
19:12
But
19:13
it's.
19:13
It
19:13
was.
19:13
It's
19:14
so
19:14
real.
19:15
That
19:15
smell
19:15
of
19:16
that
19:16
leather
19:17
was
19:18
frozen
19:18
into
19:18
my
19:19
mind.
19:19
And
19:19
then
19:20
when
19:20
I
19:20
would
19:20
smell
19:20
leather,
19:21
I
19:21
would
19:21
get
19:21
angry
19:21
and
19:22
I
19:22
didn't
19:22
really
19:22
think
19:22
about
19:23
it.
19:23
Like,
19:23
there
19:23
were
19:23
times
19:23
walking
19:24
through
19:24
the
19:24
mall
19:24
where
19:24
I
19:25
would
19:25
just
19:25
have
19:25
like
19:25
this
19:25
rage.
19:27
It
19:27
was
19:27
probably
19:27
because
19:28
I
19:28
was
19:28
in
19:28
Wilson
19:28
Wilson's
19:29
leather
19:29
store.
19:29
I
19:30
don't
19:30
know
19:30
if
19:30
that
19:30
exists
19:30
anymore,
19:31
but
19:31
it
19:32
was,
19:32
you
19:32
know,
19:32
and
19:33
until
19:33
I
19:33
went
19:33
to
19:33
therapy,
19:34
I
19:34
mean,
19:34
you
19:34
don't
19:34
know
19:34
what
19:34
you
19:35
don't
19:35
know.
19:35
So
19:35
that's
19:35
great
19:36
for
19:36
people
19:36
listening
19:37
to,
19:37
you
19:38
know,
19:38
like
19:38
we
19:38
said,
19:38
start
19:39
being
19:39
aware
19:40
of
19:41
the
19:41
trigger
19:41
so
19:42
that
19:42
you
19:42
can.
19:42
When
19:43
you
19:43
have
19:43
the
19:43
time,
19:43
you
19:44
have
19:44
the
19:44
space,
19:44
you
19:44
have
19:45
the
19:45
safety,
19:45
and
19:46
you
19:46
have
19:46
somebody
19:46
with
19:47
you
19:47
that
19:47
you
19:47
can
19:47
trust,
19:49
you
19:49
can
19:49
figure
19:49
it
19:49
out.
19:50
Exactly.
19:51
And
19:51
you
19:52
know,
19:52
to
19:52
that
19:52
point,
19:53
like
19:53
there
19:54
are
19:54
many
19:55
different
19:55
perceptions
19:56
that
19:56
we
19:56
can.
19:57
That
19:57
we
19:57
pick
19:57
up
19:58
on
19:58
when
19:58
we're
19:59
unconscious.
20:00
Like
20:00
the
20:00
reactive
20:01
mind
20:01
records
20:02
on
20:02
an.
20:02
A
20:03
subconscious
20:04
level.
20:04
So
20:04
even
20:04
when
20:05
you
20:05
are
20:05
unconscious,
20:06
you're
20:07
recording
20:08
everything
20:08
that's
20:08
happening
20:09
around
20:09
you.
20:09
Everything
20:10
from
20:10
the.
20:10
The
20:10
sounds
20:11
around
20:11
you
20:11
and
20:11
people
20:12
talking
20:12
to
20:12
the
20:13
dog
20:13
barking
20:13
to
20:13
the
20:14
sprinklers
20:14
going
20:14
off
20:15
in
20:15
the
20:15
lawn,
20:15
to
20:16
even
20:16
the
20:16
fly
20:17
that's
20:17
like
20:18
roaming
20:18
around
20:18
the
20:19
room,
20:19
you
20:19
know,
20:19
to
20:20
the
20:20
touch
20:20
your
20:21
body
20:21
on
20:21
if
20:22
you're
20:22
on
20:22
the
20:22
floor.
20:22
Like
20:23
the.
20:23
The
20:24
touch
20:24
of
20:25
the
20:25
floor,
20:25
the
20:26
tactile
20:26
on
20:26
that
20:27
to
20:28
even
20:28
just
20:28
sight
20:29
or,
20:29
you
20:29
know,
20:29
everything
20:30
that's
20:30
happening
20:31
around
20:31
us
20:32
is
20:32
being
20:33
recorded
20:33
in
20:33
the
20:33
reactive
20:34
mind.
20:34
And
20:35
when
20:35
we
20:35
don't
20:36
know
20:37
what
20:37
those
20:37
things
20:38
are,
20:38
literally
20:39
anything
20:39
at
20:40
any
20:40
given
20:40
moment
20:41
could
20:41
be
20:42
similar
20:43
to
20:43
that
20:44
moment.
20:44
And
20:45
that's
20:45
when
20:45
it
20:45
gets
20:45
brought
20:45
up,
20:46
you
20:46
know,
20:46
I
20:46
knew
20:46
somebody
20:47
who
20:47
also
20:48
had
20:49
gone
20:49
to
20:50
the
20:50
doctor
20:51
and
20:51
had
20:51
had
20:52
a
20:52
fainting
20:52
moment
20:53
and
20:54
was
20:54
unconscious
20:55
in
20:55
that
20:55
moment.
20:56
And
20:57
ever
20:57
since
20:57
then
20:58
could
20:58
not
20:59
go
20:59
to
20:59
the
20:59
doctor
20:59
without
21:00
fainting,
21:01
couldn't
21:01
do
21:01
it
21:02
because
21:02
the
21:03
mind
21:03
was
21:04
totally
21:04
being
21:05
like,
21:05
this
21:05
is
21:05
the
21:05
similar
21:06
situation
21:07
of
21:07
when
21:07
that
21:07
first
21:08
incident
21:08
happened.
21:09
And
21:09
even
21:09
like
21:10
talking
21:10
about
21:10
doctors,
21:11
talking
21:11
about
21:12
the
21:12
body,
21:12
like
21:12
that
21:13
was
21:13
like
21:13
these
21:13
were
21:14
all
21:14
restimulators
21:16
of
21:16
that
21:16
previous
21:17
moment
21:18
in
21:18
that
21:18
Ingram.
21:19
So
21:19
every
21:19
time
21:19
I
21:19
got
21:20
brought
21:20
up,
21:21
you
21:21
know,
21:21
she
21:21
was
21:22
like,
21:22
I,
21:22
I'm,
21:22
I'm
21:23
out
21:23
of
21:23
here.
21:23
And
21:23
that's,
21:24
and
21:24
that's
21:24
the
21:24
mind
21:25
trying
21:25
to
21:25
protect
21:26
you.
21:26
But,
21:26
and
21:26
then
21:26
at
21:26
the
21:27
same
21:27
time,
21:27
even
21:27
when
21:28
she's
21:28
having
21:28
a
21:28
very
21:29
sane
21:29
and
21:29
rational
21:30
conversation,
21:30
conversation
21:31
about
21:32
her
21:32
health,
21:34
she's
21:34
gonna,
21:34
she's
21:35
gonna
21:35
try
21:35
to
21:35
faint.
21:36
But
21:36
that's
21:36
not
21:37
like
21:37
the
21:37
rational
21:38
thing
21:38
to
21:38
do
21:38
in
21:38
that
21:39
moment
21:39
because
21:39
you
21:39
do
21:39
actually
21:40
need
21:40
help
21:40
in
21:40
that
21:41
moment.
21:41
You
21:41
know
21:41
what
21:41
I'm
21:41
saying?
21:42
So.
21:42
Right.
21:42
It
21:43
wasn't
21:43
until
21:43
she
21:43
actually
21:44
went
21:44
and
21:44
found
21:45
the
21:45
exact
21:45
source
21:46
and
21:46
the,
21:46
and
21:46
that
21:47
alleviated
21:48
the
21:49
trauma
21:50
from
21:50
that
21:50
engram
21:51
with
21:51
the
21:52
dianetics
21:52
technique.
21:53
It
21:53
wasn't
21:53
until
21:53
she
21:54
actually
21:54
did
21:54
that
21:55
that
21:55
she
21:55
was
21:56
able
21:56
to
21:56
then
21:56
just
21:57
have
21:57
a
21:57
conversation
21:58
about
21:58
doctors
21:59
or
21:59
about
21:59
herself
22:00
and
22:00
her
22:00
health.
22:01
You
22:01
know,
22:01
very,
22:02
it's,
22:03
it's
22:03
definitely
22:03
a
22:04
very
22:04
real
22:04
thing
22:05
and
22:05
we
22:05
need
22:05
to
22:05
actually
22:06
address
22:06
it.
22:07
Yeah,
22:07
absolutely.
22:08
And
22:08
the
22:09
first
22:09
step
22:09
is
22:09
awareness,
22:09
to
22:10
start
22:10
being
22:10
aware,
22:10
start
22:11
writing
22:11
these
22:11
things
22:11
down.
22:12
So
22:12
when
22:12
you
22:12
start
22:13
doing
22:13
that,
22:13
because
22:13
I,
22:13
like
22:14
I
22:14
said,
22:14
I'll
22:14
say
22:14
to
22:14
myself,
22:15
well,
22:15
that
22:15
wasn't
22:15
me,
22:15
that
22:16
was
22:16
definitely
22:16
the
22:16
five
22:17
year
22:17
old
22:17
me.
22:17
And
22:18
then
22:18
when
22:18
I
22:18
go
22:18
home,
22:19
I'll
22:19
go
22:19
through,
22:19
I
22:19
mean,
22:20
I
22:20
have
22:20
my
22:20
own
22:20
process
22:21
of
22:21
kind
22:21
of
22:21
going
22:21
back
22:22
through
22:22
time
22:22
and
22:22
okay,
22:23
when
22:23
did
22:23
I,
22:24
why
22:24
would
22:24
that.
22:25
How,
22:25
where
22:26
you
22:26
know,
22:26
using
22:26
your
22:26
senses.
22:27
But
22:27
the
22:27
important
22:28
thing
22:28
to
22:28
know
22:28
too,
22:29
and
22:29
I
22:29
think
22:29
you've
22:29
kind
22:29
of
22:29
said
22:30
it
22:30
several
22:30
times
22:30
in
22:31
many
22:31
different
22:31
ways,
22:31
but
22:32
for
22:32
the
22:32
listeners,
22:33
when
22:34
you
22:34
are
22:34
in
22:34
that
22:34
irrational
22:35
side
22:35
of
22:36
the
22:36
brain,
22:36
they
22:37
can't
22:37
both
22:37
work
22:37
at
22:38
the
22:38
same
22:38
time.
22:39
Right.
22:39
So
22:39
that
22:40
is
22:40
why
22:40
when
22:40
you
22:41
are
22:41
triggered
22:41
and
22:41
you're
22:41
getting
22:42
ready
22:42
to
22:42
lash
22:42
out
22:43
at
22:43
someone,
22:43
or
22:43
you're
22:44
getting
22:44
ready
22:44
to
22:44
hit
22:44
your
22:45
kids,
22:45
or
22:45
you're
22:45
getting
22:46
ready
22:46
to
22:46
just
22:47
have
22:47
the
22:47
brawl
22:48
of
22:48
your
22:48
life.
22:48
You,
22:49
when
22:49
you're
22:49
in
22:50
that
22:50
state,
22:51
don't
22:52
like,
22:53
that's
22:53
where
22:53
you
22:53
need,
22:53
you
22:54
can't,
22:54
you
22:54
are
22:54
not
22:55
logically
22:55
thinking
22:56
you're
22:56
going
22:56
to
22:56
say
22:56
the
22:56
wrong
22:57
things.
22:57
You're
22:58
gonna
22:58
say
22:58
stuff
22:58
you
22:58
regret.
22:59
You're
22:59
just
22:59
not
22:59
thinking
23:00
logically.
23:00
You
23:00
can't
23:01
Be
23:01
thinking
23:01
with
23:01
both
23:01
sides
23:02
of
23:02
the
23:02
brain
23:03
at
23:03
that
23:04
moment.
23:04
Yeah.
23:05
So
23:05
that's
23:05
why
23:05
I
23:06
tell
23:06
people,
23:06
you
23:06
know,
23:06
and
23:07
I've
23:07
always
23:07
kind
23:07
of
23:07
used
23:07
it
23:08
for
23:08
a
23:08
rule
23:08
for
23:08
myself.
23:09
When
23:09
I
23:09
get
23:09
angry
23:10
or
23:10
something,
23:10
it
23:11
doesn't
23:11
matter
23:11
where
23:11
I
23:11
am.
23:12
I
23:12
take
23:12
a
23:13
deep
23:13
breath
23:13
or
23:13
I
23:14
wiggle
23:14
my
23:14
toes
23:14
10
23:15
times
23:15
or
23:15
whatever
23:15
it
23:15
is,
23:16
but
23:16
I
23:16
count
23:16
to
23:16
10.
23:17
I
23:17
look
23:17
both
23:17
ways,
23:18
you
23:18
know,
23:18
kind
23:18
of
23:18
get
23:19
yourself
23:19
bouncing
23:19
and
23:19
back
23:20
and
23:20
forth
23:20
between
23:20
one
23:21
side
23:21
of
23:21
the
23:21
brain
23:21
and
23:21
the
23:21
other
23:23
and
23:23
get
23:24
yourself
23:24
down
23:25
before
23:25
you
23:25
react,
23:26
because
23:27
that
23:27
is
23:27
where
23:27
you
23:28
make
23:28
the
23:28
bad
23:28
choices.
23:29
And
23:30
even
23:30
though
23:30
now
23:30
you've
23:31
seen
23:31
this
23:31
podcast
23:31
and
23:32
now
23:32
you're
23:32
going
23:32
to
23:32
be
23:32
like,
23:32
oh,
23:33
I'm
23:33
aware.
23:33
I
23:33
do
23:33
that.
23:33
Well,
23:34
now
23:34
that
23:34
you're
23:34
aware,
23:34
it's
23:35
your
23:35
responsibility
23:35
not
23:36
to
23:36
do
23:36
it.
23:37
Totally.
23:38
That's
23:38
true.
23:39
And
23:40
when
23:40
you
23:40
have
23:40
the
23:40
knowledge
23:41
of
23:41
how
23:41
to
23:42
actually
23:42
address
23:42
that,
23:42
you.
23:43
You
23:43
do
23:43
have
23:44
that
23:44
responsibility.
23:45
Totally.
23:46
But
23:47
one
23:47
thing
23:47
that
23:47
I
23:47
think
23:47
is
23:48
really
23:48
unique
23:48
about
23:49
Dianetics
23:50
specifically
23:50
is
23:51
that
23:51
you.
23:52
We
23:52
have
23:53
recurring
23:53
cycles
23:54
that
23:54
might
23:54
happen
23:54
like
23:55
that.
23:55
Like,
23:55
for
23:55
example,
23:56
let's
23:56
say
23:56
that
23:56
somebody,
23:57
a
23:57
parent
23:58
is.
24:00
They
24:00
have
24:00
like
24:00
a
24:01
mom
24:01
has
24:01
two
24:02
children,
24:02
and
24:02
one
24:03
of
24:03
her
24:03
children,
24:03
she's
24:03
super
24:04
sweet
24:04
too,
24:04
and
24:05
always
24:05
has,
24:05
like,
24:06
everything
24:06
is
24:06
super
24:06
easy
24:07
and
24:07
simple.
24:07
Right.
24:08
And
24:09
then
24:09
she
24:09
has
24:09
another
24:10
child,
24:10
and
24:10
somehow
24:11
nothing
24:11
ever
24:11
goes
24:12
right
24:12
with
24:12
that
24:12
child.
24:13
Like,
24:13
just
24:13
everything
24:14
is
24:14
always
24:14
wrong
24:15
and
24:15
the
24:15
child
24:15
is
24:15
always
24:15
wrong
24:16
and,
24:16
you
24:16
know,
24:17
whatever.
24:18
But
24:18
now
24:19
let's
24:19
take
24:19
it
24:19
back.
24:20
Five
24:20
years
24:21
prior,
24:21
the
24:21
child
24:22
was
24:22
younger,
24:23
and
24:23
the
24:23
mom
24:23
was
24:23
ill
24:24
at
24:24
this
24:24
moment.
24:25
Right.
24:25
So
24:26
there's
24:26
unconsciousness
24:27
from
24:27
the
24:27
degree
24:27
that
24:27
she
24:28
is
24:28
not
24:28
operating
24:29
her
24:29
full
24:29
awareness
24:30
at
24:30
that
24:30
moment.
24:31
And
24:31
so
24:32
let's
24:32
say
24:32
in
24:32
this
24:32
incident
24:33
that
24:33
the
24:33
child
24:34
is
24:34
saying,
24:34
mommy,
24:35
mommy,
24:35
mommy.
24:36
And
24:36
the
24:37
mom
24:37
is
24:37
recording
24:37
that
24:38
in
24:38
the
24:38
reactive
24:38
mind,
24:39
and
24:39
she
24:39
might
24:39
get
24:39
really
24:40
upset
24:40
and
24:40
be
24:40
like,
24:40
go
24:41
away.
24:41
Like,
24:41
I
24:42
don't
24:42
need
24:42
you
24:43
here
24:43
right
24:43
now.
24:44
Right.
24:45
Well,
24:45
the
24:46
mom
24:46
in
24:46
that
24:47
moment
24:47
is
24:47
recording
24:48
in
24:48
her
24:48
reactive
24:48
mind.
24:49
And
24:49
later,
24:50
five
24:50
years
24:50
down
24:50
the
24:50
road,
24:51
the
24:51
child
24:51
says
24:52
maybe
24:52
something
24:52
like,
24:52
mommy,
24:53
mommy,
24:53
mommy.
24:54
And
24:54
it's
24:54
the
24:54
same
24:55
thing.
24:55
Well,
24:55
the
24:55
reactive
24:56
mind
24:56
is
24:56
gonna
24:57
instantly
24:58
think,
24:58
well,
24:58
that's
24:58
the
24:59
same
24:59
moment.
25:00
So
25:00
the
25:00
mom
25:00
lashes
25:00
out
25:01
on
25:01
the
25:01
child,
25:01
and
25:02
she's
25:02
like,
25:03
go
25:03
away.
25:03
I
25:04
don't
25:04
need
25:04
you
25:04
here.
25:05
Even
25:05
though
25:06
maybe
25:06
the
25:06
kid
25:07
just
25:07
needs
25:07
some
25:07
help,
25:08
like
25:08
pulling
25:09
down
25:09
a
25:09
bag
25:09
of
25:09
chips
25:10
from
25:10
the.
25:10
From
25:10
the
25:11
shelf
25:12
or
25:12
something,
25:12
you
25:12
know,
25:12
so
25:13
it's
25:13
not
25:13
a
25:13
rational
25:14
moment,
25:15
but
25:15
that
25:15
might
25:16
recur
25:16
over
25:17
and
25:17
over.
25:18
Like,
25:18
we
25:18
have
25:19
recurring
25:19
cycles
25:20
or
25:20
habits
25:20
that
25:21
happen
25:21
all
25:22
the
25:22
time.
25:22
And
25:22
so
25:22
maybe
25:23
nothing
25:23
ever
25:23
goes
25:24
right
25:24
with
25:24
this
25:24
child.
25:25
But
25:25
if
25:25
you
25:26
actually
25:26
address
25:26
and
25:27
get
25:27
rid
25:28
of
25:28
the.
25:29
Not
25:29
only
25:29
the
25:30
mental
25:30
energy
25:31
and
25:31
the
25:31
charge,
25:31
but
25:32
actually
25:32
get
25:32
rid
25:32
of
25:32
the
25:33
reactive
25:33
mind,
25:35
then
25:35
you
25:36
no
25:36
longer
25:36
have
25:37
anything
25:38
like
25:38
any
25:38
of
25:38
those
25:38
Ingrams
25:39
in
25:39
the
25:40
reactive
25:40
mind
25:40
to
25:41
actually
25:41
be
25:42
triggered
25:42
later
25:42
down
25:43
the
25:43
road.
25:43
And
25:44
that's
25:44
the
25:44
unique
25:44
thing
25:44
about
25:45
Dianetics
25:45
is
25:45
that
25:45
you're
25:46
actually
25:46
getting
25:46
rid
25:47
of
25:47
the,
25:47
like
25:48
the
25:48
storage
25:49
bank,
25:49
if
25:49
you
25:49
will,
25:50
that
25:50
is
25:51
storing
25:51
all
25:51
these
25:52
traumatic
25:52
incidences.
25:53
And
25:53
when
25:53
you
25:54
get
25:54
rid
25:54
of
25:54
it,
25:54
you
25:54
don't
25:55
have
25:55
anything
25:55
else
25:56
to
25:56
put
25:56
in
25:56
there,
25:57
so
25:57
you
25:57
can't
25:57
be
25:57
triggered
25:58
later
25:58
down
25:59
the
25:59
road.
25:59
You
25:59
simply
26:00
just
26:00
think
26:00
clearly.
26:01
Like
26:02
when
26:02
you
26:02
are
26:03
thinking
26:04
rationally
26:04
all
26:04
the
26:04
time
26:05
with
26:05
your
26:05
analytical
26:06
mind
26:06
and
26:06
you
26:06
are,
26:07
you've
26:08
achieved
26:08
that
26:08
state
26:09
of
26:09
clear.
26:10
You
26:10
are
26:10
simply
26:10
just
26:11
you
26:11
and
26:12
you
26:12
have
26:13
complete
26:13
control.
26:14
And
26:14
not
26:14
to
26:14
mention
26:15
you're
26:15
motivated,
26:16
you're
26:16
more
26:16
productive,
26:17
self
26:17
confident,
26:18
you're
26:18
even
26:19
creative
26:19
because
26:20
you
26:20
just
26:20
flow.
26:21
There's
26:21
nothing
26:22
that's
26:22
blocking
26:22
you
26:23
from
26:23
being
26:24
able
26:24
to
26:24
just
26:25
be
26:25
you.
26:26
And
26:26
that's
26:26
the
26:26
beautiful
26:27
thing
26:27
of
26:27
that.
26:29
That's.
26:30
I
26:30
mean,
26:30
it's.
26:30
Yes,
26:31
it's
26:31
everybody's
26:32
perfect
26:32
scenario.
26:33
Right?
26:33
I
26:33
mean.
26:33
Right.
26:34
Yeah.
26:34
I
26:34
mean
26:35
it
26:35
seems
26:35
too
26:35
good
26:35
to
26:35
be
26:36
true.
26:36
Right.
26:36
But
26:36
then,
26:37
but
26:37
then
26:37
it's
26:38
totally.
26:38
I
26:39
mean
26:39
people
26:39
are
26:39
achieving
26:40
this
26:40
state
26:40
of
26:40
clear
26:40
like
26:41
every
26:42
single
26:42
day.
26:42
And
26:43
that's
26:43
the
26:43
amazing
26:43
thing.
26:44
And
26:44
you
26:44
can
26:44
even
26:44
just
26:44
do
26:45
it
26:45
with
26:45
a
26:45
friend,
26:45
like
26:46
in
26:46
your
26:46
home.
26:47
Yeah,
26:48
no,
26:48
that's.
26:49
I
26:49
mean
26:49
it
26:49
is
26:50
amazing.
26:50
And
26:50
it's
26:50
funny
26:51
because
26:51
like
26:51
you
26:51
said,
26:51
it
26:52
doesn't
26:52
have
26:52
that
26:52
reactive
26:53
charge.
26:53
And
26:53
you
26:54
know,
26:54
your
26:54
mind
26:54
is,
26:55
you
26:55
know,
26:55
if
26:55
you
26:55
go
26:56
back
26:56
into
26:56
like
26:56
the
26:56
quantum
26:57
world,
26:57
there
26:57
is
26:58
no
26:58
time,
26:58
space,
26:59
like
26:59
none
27:00
of
27:00
that
27:00
matters.
27:00
So
27:01
your
27:01
mind
27:01
doesn't.
27:01
You're
27:02
right
27:02
there.
27:03
Whether
27:03
it
27:03
happened
27:03
25
27:04
years
27:04
ago
27:04
or
27:04
you're.
27:04
It's
27:05
your
27:06
mind,
27:06
it's
27:06
right
27:06
there,
27:07
right
27:07
now,
27:07
right
27:08
here.
27:08
So
27:10
that's
27:10
why
27:10
I
27:10
tell
27:10
people,
27:11
you
27:11
know
27:11
when
27:11
you're
27:12
trying
27:12
to
27:12
do
27:12
something
27:13
and
27:13
you
27:14
know
27:14
when
27:14
you're
27:14
thinking
27:15
through
27:15
something
27:15
or
27:15
visualizing
27:16
something,
27:18
see
27:19
it
27:19
and
27:19
feel
27:19
it,
27:20
because
27:20
your
27:20
mind
27:20
doesn't
27:21
know.
27:22
So
27:22
if
27:22
you
27:22
want
27:22
to
27:22
be
27:23
a
27:23
world
27:23
renowned
27:24
speaker
27:24
and
27:24
you're
27:25
visualizing
27:25
yourself
27:26
constantly,
27:27
just
27:27
visualize
27:27
yourself
27:28
up
27:28
on
27:28
a
27:28
stage.
27:29
Yeah.
27:29
And
27:29
then
27:30
the
27:30
energy
27:30
in
27:30
the
27:30
universe,
27:31
or
27:31
whatever
27:31
you
27:31
call
27:32
it
27:32
is
27:32
going
27:32
to
27:33
push
27:33
you
27:33
to
27:33
get
27:34
that
27:34
vision
27:34
because
27:35
you've
27:35
already.
27:36
It's
27:36
already
27:36
happened.
27:37
You're
27:37
there.
27:37
Yeah,
27:38
exactly.
27:39
That's
27:39
Joe
27:39
Dispenza.
27:41
Same
27:41
thing.
27:41
You
27:42
know,
27:42
it's
27:42
like
27:42
when
27:42
you,
27:43
you
27:43
know,
27:43
that's.
27:44
But
27:44
it's
27:44
true.
27:45
And
27:45
it's
27:45
so
27:45
true.
27:47
So.
27:47
Yeah.
27:47
And.
27:48
And
27:48
your
27:48
mind
27:48
Is
27:49
there
27:49
to
27:49
protect
27:49
you.
27:50
It
27:50
is
27:50
100%
27:51
there
27:51
to
27:51
protect
27:52
you.
27:52
And
27:52
I
27:52
always
27:52
say,
27:52
you
27:53
know,
27:53
that's
27:53
where
27:53
we
27:54
go
27:54
into.
27:54
I
27:54
do
27:54
a
27:54
lot
27:54
of
27:55
the
27:55
somatic
27:55
healing
27:56
and
27:56
stuff
27:56
like
27:56
that,
27:57
because,
27:58
like,
27:59
we
27:59
talked
27:59
about
28:00
that
28:00
visceral
28:01
response.
28:01
You
28:01
know,
28:02
you
28:02
can.
28:02
Sometimes
28:03
you
28:03
can
28:03
trick
28:03
your
28:03
mind
28:03
a
28:04
little
28:04
bit.
28:04
You
28:04
can
28:04
trick
28:04
your
28:04
mind
28:05
a
28:05
lot
28:05
easier
28:05
than
28:05
you
28:06
trick
28:06
your
28:06
body,
28:09
you
28:09
know?
28:09
Right.
28:10
Have
28:10
you
28:10
ever.
28:10
Yeah.
28:11
Because
28:11
sometimes
28:12
you'll
28:12
be
28:12
like,
28:12
oh,
28:13
yeah.
28:13
Or
28:13
like
28:13
affirmations.
28:14
Oh,
28:14
I
28:15
got
28:15
this.
28:15
I'm.
28:15
Yes,
28:15
yes,
28:16
yes.
28:16
And
28:16
then
28:16
you
28:17
say
28:17
to
28:17
yourself,
28:17
you
28:17
know,
28:19
I'm
28:19
gonna
28:19
do
28:19
all
28:19
good
28:20
things.
28:20
And
28:20
then
28:20
your
28:21
stomach,
28:21
like,
28:21
turns
28:22
into
28:22
this,
28:22
like.
28:23
Right.
28:23
Ball
28:24
of
28:24
goo,
28:24
and
28:24
you're
28:25
like,
28:25
okay,
28:25
not
28:26
quite
28:26
convinced
28:26
there.
28:27
Yeah,
28:27
exactly.
28:28
Right.
28:29
So,
28:29
I
28:29
mean,
28:29
it's.
28:30
It's
28:30
fascinating
28:31
work
28:31
that
28:32
you
28:32
do.
28:32
It's.
28:33
It's.
28:33
The
28:33
mind
28:33
is
28:34
just
28:34
so
28:34
absolutely
28:35
amazing.
28:36
And,
28:36
you
28:37
know,
28:37
my.
28:37
My
28:37
big
28:38
message
28:38
to
28:38
people
28:38
always
28:39
is
28:39
like,
28:40
none
28:40
of
28:40
that
28:40
was
28:40
your
28:40
fault.
28:41
None
28:41
of
28:41
that.
28:41
But,
28:42
yeah,
28:42
you
28:43
have
28:43
to
28:43
choose
28:44
to
28:44
want
28:44
to
28:44
do
28:45
the
28:45
work,
28:45
because
28:45
even
28:46
though
28:46
you
28:46
said
28:46
it's
28:47
easy,
28:47
you
28:47
listen
28:47
to
28:47
a
28:48
book
28:48
and
28:48
you
28:48
do
28:48
this,
28:48
you
28:48
still
28:49
still
28:49
have
28:49
to
28:49
do
28:49
the
28:50
work.
28:50
Totally.
28:51
I
28:51
mean,
28:52
it
28:52
is
28:52
not
28:53
easy
28:53
to
28:54
actually
28:54
confront
28:55
these
28:55
moments
28:55
because,
28:56
like,
28:56
you.
28:57
We
28:58
blank
28:58
them
28:58
out
28:59
in
28:59
our
28:59
mind
28:59
for
28:59
a
29:00
reason.
29:00
They're
29:00
traumatic,
29:01
and
29:01
they're.
29:02
They're
29:02
not
29:03
something
29:03
that
29:03
we
29:04
want
29:04
to
29:04
look
29:04
at.
29:05
Like,
29:05
who
29:06
wants
29:06
to
29:06
go
29:06
back
29:06
and
29:07
actually
29:08
look
29:08
at
29:08
the
29:09
moment
29:09
when
29:09
we
29:09
were
29:10
unconscious
29:10
or
29:10
we
29:10
were
29:11
having
29:11
a
29:11
moment
29:11
of
29:12
actual
29:12
real
29:13
trauma?
29:14
Like,
29:14
we
29:14
don't
29:14
want
29:15
to
29:15
look
29:15
at
29:15
it,
29:15
but
29:16
that's
29:16
why
29:16
we
29:16
have
29:16
to
29:17
look
29:17
back
29:17
at
29:17
it
29:18
and
29:18
actually
29:18
be
29:19
able
29:19
to
29:19
confront
29:20
it
29:20
and
29:21
do
29:21
the
29:21
work
29:21
to
29:22
get
29:22
rid
29:22
of
29:23
that,
29:23
because
29:23
otherwise
29:24
it
29:24
just
29:24
continues
29:25
to
29:25
happen
29:25
over
29:26
and
29:26
over
29:26
and
29:27
over
29:27
again.
29:28
And
29:28
to
29:28
your
29:28
point,
29:29
you
29:29
said
29:29
something
29:29
really
29:29
excellent,
29:30
is
29:30
that
29:31
it's
29:31
not
29:32
about
29:32
what
29:33
you
29:34
did.
29:34
It's
29:35
about
29:35
what's
29:35
been
29:35
done
29:36
to
29:36
you.
29:37
And
29:37
that's.
29:38
And
29:38
Dianetics
29:39
actually
29:39
very.
29:40
It
29:40
actually
29:40
says
29:41
that
29:41
directly
29:41
from
29:42
the
29:42
book
29:42
is.
29:42
It's
29:43
about
29:43
what's
29:43
been
29:43
done
29:44
to
29:44
you.
29:45
And
29:45
I
29:45
think
29:45
that's
29:46
a
29:46
really
29:46
important
29:46
message
29:47
out
29:47
there
29:47
for
29:48
people,
29:48
is
29:48
that
29:48
they
29:49
know
29:49
that
29:49
there's
29:50
something
29:50
new
29:51
to
29:51
do
29:51
about
29:51
their
29:52
mental
29:52
health
29:52
and
29:53
that
29:53
there
29:53
is
29:54
actually
29:54
a
29:55
solution
29:55
for
29:56
people
29:56
that
29:56
is
29:56
not
29:57
going
29:57
to
29:57
just
29:57
be
29:58
like
29:58
a
29:58
band
29:58
aid
29:59
over
29:59
the
29:59
wound.
30:00
It's
30:01
a
30:01
permanent
30:02
solution
30:03
that
30:03
helps
30:03
you
30:04
to
30:04
completely
30:05
change
30:05
your
30:05
life
30:06
and
30:06
be
30:07
able
30:07
to
30:07
exponentially
30:08
improve
30:09
yourself
30:10
and
30:10
your
30:11
abilities.
30:12
I
30:12
mean,
30:12
even
30:13
as
30:13
simple
30:13
as,
30:14
like,
30:14
you
30:14
reminded
30:14
me
30:15
when
30:15
I
30:16
had
30:16
a
30:16
friend
30:16
that
30:18
he's
30:18
a
30:18
renowned
30:19
musician,
30:20
like
30:20
performed
30:21
on
30:21
some
30:21
of
30:21
the
30:21
biggest
30:22
stages
30:22
out
30:22
there.
30:23
And
30:23
we
30:23
were
30:23
talking
30:24
recently
30:24
and
30:24
he's
30:24
like,
30:25
oh,
30:25
yeah,
30:25
before
30:26
I
30:26
did
30:26
Dianetics,
30:27
I
30:27
was
30:27
like
30:28
totally
30:28
ridden
30:29
with
30:29
like
30:30
self
30:30
doubt
30:30
and
30:31
insecurities
30:31
and
30:32
stage
30:32
fright.
30:32
And
30:33
every
30:33
time
30:33
that
30:33
I
30:34
went
30:34
up
30:34
on
30:34
that
30:34
stage,
30:34
I
30:35
had
30:35
butterflies,
30:35
like
30:36
razor
30:37
blade
30:38
butterflies
30:38
in
30:39
my
30:39
stomach.
30:39
And
30:39
no
30:40
matter
30:40
what
30:40
I
30:40
did,
30:41
right,
30:41
and
30:42
no
30:42
matter
30:42
what
30:43
I
30:43
did,
30:44
I
30:44
still
30:44
had
30:44
them.
30:45
And
30:45
he
30:46
said
30:46
that
30:46
no
30:46
matter
30:47
what,
30:47
like
30:48
Dianetics
30:49
is
30:49
the
30:49
thing
30:49
that
30:49
actually
30:50
helped
30:50
him
30:50
address
30:51
that
30:51
and
30:51
get
30:51
rid
30:52
of
30:52
it
30:52
so
30:52
he
30:52
can
30:52
just
30:52
go
30:53
on
30:53
the
30:53
stage
30:53
and
30:53
just
30:54
flow
30:54
and
30:55
allow
30:56
himself
30:56
to
30:56
just
30:57
create
30:57
and
30:57
perform
30:58
not
30:58
only
30:58
for
30:58
himself,
30:59
but
30:59
for
30:59
the
30:59
audience
31:00
as
31:00
well.
31:01
And
31:01
he
31:01
is
31:02
just
31:02
like,
31:03
I
31:03
mean,
31:03
he's
31:03
created
31:04
some
31:04
of
31:04
the
31:04
most
31:04
beautiful
31:05
music
31:05
that's
31:05
just
31:06
simply
31:06
from
31:06
him.
31:07
And
31:07
you
31:07
can
31:07
tell
31:08
it's.
31:08
It's
31:09
amazing.
31:10
Absolutely.
31:11
I
31:11
love
31:11
that.
31:12
I
31:12
love
31:12
that
31:13
and
31:13
I,
31:13
I
31:13
love
31:14
that.
31:14
Like
31:14
you
31:14
said,
31:14
it's.
31:15
It
31:15
is
31:15
for
31:15
everybody.
31:16
It
31:16
is
31:17
something
31:17
that
31:17
everybody
31:18
can
31:18
do.
31:18
You
31:18
have
31:18
to
31:19
want
31:19
it.
31:19
You
31:19
have
31:19
to
31:19
be
31:19
able
31:19
to,
31:20
you
31:20
know,
31:20
willing
31:21
to
31:21
do
31:21
the
31:21
work.
31:21
But
31:23
it's,
31:23
it's
31:24
possible.
31:25
And
31:26
you
31:26
know,
31:26
I
31:26
try
31:26
to
31:27
get,
31:27
you
31:27
know,
31:27
my
31:27
big
31:28
thing
31:28
is,
31:28
is.
31:29
But
31:29
you
31:29
have
31:29
to
31:29
be
31:29
in
31:30
your
31:30
open
31:30
mind.
31:30
You
31:31
have
31:31
to
31:31
be.
31:32
I
31:32
mean,
31:32
in
31:32
my
31:33
opinion,
31:34
and
31:34
this
31:34
probably
31:35
isn't,
31:35
I
31:35
don't
31:35
know
31:36
if
31:36
it's
31:36
right
31:36
or
31:36
not,
31:36
but
31:36
it's
31:37
my
31:37
opinion
31:37
is
31:38
you
31:38
have
31:38
to
31:38
be
31:38
drug
31:39
free.
31:40
Your
31:40
mind
31:40
has
31:40
to
31:41
be
31:41
willing
31:42
to
31:42
open
31:43
up
31:43
every
31:43
pathway.
31:44
And
31:45
I
31:45
totally
31:45
agree.
31:46
You
31:46
know,
31:47
that's
31:47
why
31:47
I,
31:48
it
31:48
breaks
31:49
my
31:49
heart
31:49
to
31:49
see
31:49
people
31:50
that
31:50
are
31:50
like,
31:50
oh,
31:50
I've
31:50
been
31:51
on
31:51
antidepressants
31:52
for
31:52
30
31:52
years.
31:53
Yeah,
31:53
your
31:53
mind
31:54
doesn't
31:54
even
31:54
know.
31:55
It's
31:56
so
31:56
rattled
31:56
its
31:57
own
31:57
systems.
31:57
I
31:58
mean,
31:58
our
31:58
bodies
31:58
are
31:58
so
31:59
beautiful
31:59
and
32:00
so
32:00
able
32:01
to
32:01
heal
32:02
and
32:02
do
32:02
the
32:02
things
32:03
until
32:04
we
32:04
intervene.
32:05
It's
32:06
so
32:06
true.
32:07
You
32:07
know,
32:07
on
32:08
the
32:08
same
32:08
page
32:08
with
32:08
you,
32:09
I
32:09
totally
32:09
agree.
32:10
So
32:11
it's
32:11
like,
32:11
you
32:11
know,
32:11
my
32:12
parents
32:12
were
32:12
both
32:12
drug
32:13
addicts
32:13
and
32:13
when
32:13
I
32:14
was
32:14
suicidal
32:14
and
32:14
they
32:15
did
32:15
want
32:15
to
32:15
put
32:15
me.
32:15
This
32:16
is
32:16
before
32:16
the
32:16
guy
32:16
told
32:17
me,
32:18
this
32:18
is
32:18
when
32:18
I
32:18
actually
32:19
was.
32:21
But
32:22
when
32:22
they.
32:23
All
32:23
they
32:23
wanted
32:23
to
32:23
do
32:23
was
32:24
take
32:24
this
32:24
medicine,
32:24
take
32:25
that
32:25
medicine,
32:25
take
32:25
this
32:26
medicine.
32:26
I
32:26
was
32:26
like,
32:26
I
32:27
have
32:27
enough
32:27
trouble
32:27
figuring
32:28
out
32:28
who
32:28
I
32:29
am
32:29
and
32:29
what
32:29
I
32:29
want
32:30
and
32:30
how
32:30
I'm
32:30
going
32:30
to
32:30
survive
32:31
this
32:31
world
32:33
in
32:33
my
32:34
own
32:34
mind.
32:34
Like,
32:35
give
32:35
me
32:35
something
32:35
that's
32:36
going
32:36
to
32:36
change
32:36
the
32:36
way
32:37
I
32:37
think.
32:37
Now
32:37
you're
32:38
really
32:38
throwing
32:38
it.
32:38
And
32:39
I
32:39
refused.
32:40
And
32:41
it
32:41
was
32:41
hard
32:42
because,
32:43
you
32:43
know,
32:43
I
32:43
was
32:44
fighting
32:44
those
32:44
bad
32:45
Thoughts
32:45
and,
32:45
and
32:46
for
32:46
a
32:46
long
32:46
time.
32:47
But
32:47
I
32:47
did
32:47
it
32:47
100%.
32:49
I've
32:49
never
32:49
taken
32:50
an
32:50
antidepressant.
32:51
I've
32:51
been
32:51
through
32:51
some
32:51
dark
32:52
times.
32:53
So
32:54
you
32:54
can
32:54
do
32:54
it.
32:55
Totally.
32:55
You
32:55
can
32:55
do
32:56
it.
32:56
And
32:56
there's
32:56
tools
32:57
out
32:57
there
32:57
that
32:57
can
32:57
help
32:58
you
32:58
do
32:58
it.
32:58
And
32:58
there's
32:58
coaches
32:59
and
32:59
there's
32:59
people
32:59
like
33:00
you,
33:00
and
33:00
there's
33:00
people
33:00
writing
33:01
books.
33:01
I
33:01
mean,
33:02
there's
33:02
podcasters.
33:03
It's
33:04
doable,
33:05
it's
33:05
out
33:05
there
33:05
for
33:06
the
33:06
taking.
33:06
You
33:07
just
33:07
have
33:07
to
33:07
really
33:07
want
33:08
to
33:08
take
33:08
it.
33:09
I
33:09
love
33:09
that
33:10
you're
33:10
saying
33:10
that
33:10
so
33:11
much
33:11
because
33:12
I
33:12
am
33:12
totally
33:13
on
33:13
the
33:13
same
33:13
page
33:14
with
33:14
you,
33:14
that
33:14
you
33:15
honestly,
33:16
you
33:16
have
33:16
to
33:16
be
33:16
wanting
33:17
help.
33:18
Like,
33:18
you
33:18
have
33:18
to
33:19
be
33:19
willing
33:19
to
33:20
have
33:21
help
33:21
and
33:22
to
33:22
put
33:22
yourself
33:23
in
33:23
a
33:23
position
33:23
where
33:23
you're
33:24
like,
33:24
okay,
33:24
I
33:24
know
33:24
that
33:25
I
33:25
need
33:25
change
33:25
and
33:26
I
33:26
know
33:26
that
33:26
I
33:26
need
33:27
to
33:27
do
33:27
something.
33:28
And
33:28
even
33:28
if
33:29
you,
33:30
you
33:31
know,
33:31
even
33:31
if
33:32
it's
33:32
hard
33:32
for
33:32
you,
33:33
it,
33:33
it
33:33
is,
33:34
it
33:34
is
33:34
a
33:34
step
33:35
in
33:35
the
33:35
right
33:35
direction
33:36
for
33:36
you
33:36
to
33:36
do.
33:37
And
33:37
I
33:37
wanted
33:37
to
33:37
also
33:38
bring
33:38
up,
33:38
like,
33:39
if
33:39
anybody
33:40
is
33:40
interested
33:41
in
33:42
actually
33:42
learning
33:43
more
33:43
or
33:43
like
33:44
getting
33:44
one
33:44
on
33:44
one
33:45
instruction,
33:45
because
33:45
it
33:46
is
33:46
very
33:46
simple.
33:46
But
33:46
sometimes
33:47
we
33:47
need
33:47
that
33:48
like
33:48
extra
33:48
push
33:49
or
33:49
support.
33:50
You
33:50
know,
33:51
there
33:51
is
33:51
a
33:51
two
33:52
day
33:52
weekend
33:52
seminar
33:53
that
33:53
you
33:54
can
33:54
do
33:54
at
33:54
any
33:55
of
33:55
our
33:55
Dianetics
33:55
foundations.
33:57
And
33:57
it's
33:58
absolutely
33:59
wonderful
33:59
because
34:00
you
34:00
not
34:00
only
34:00
get
34:00
to
34:01
learn
34:01
about
34:01
Dianetics
34:02
more
34:02
and
34:02
you
34:03
get
34:03
to
34:03
watch
34:03
a
34:03
great
34:04
film
34:04
on
34:04
it,
34:05
but
34:05
you
34:05
actually
34:06
get
34:06
to
34:06
deliver
34:07
Dianetics
34:08
technique
34:09
to
34:09
somebody
34:10
else
34:11
and
34:11
help
34:11
them
34:12
with
34:12
their
34:13
traumas
34:13
and
34:13
with
34:14
their
34:14
problems
34:15
from
34:15
their
34:16
past.
34:16
And
34:17
you
34:17
also
34:17
get
34:17
to
34:18
get
34:18
it
34:18
delivered
34:19
to
34:19
you.
34:20
So
34:20
you
34:20
get
34:20
to
34:20
see
34:20
both
34:21
sides
34:21
of
34:21
it
34:21
where
34:22
you
34:22
actually
34:22
get
34:22
to
34:23
experience
34:23
the
34:23
full
34:24
like,
34:25
miracle
34:25
of
34:26
Dianetics,
34:26
which
34:26
is
34:27
just.
34:27
I
34:27
mean,
34:28
it
34:28
is
34:28
amazing.
34:29
And
34:30
I
34:31
had
34:31
a
34:31
friend
34:32
who
34:32
actually
34:32
recently
34:32
did
34:33
it
34:33
and
34:33
he
34:34
realized
34:35
that
34:35
he
34:36
had
34:36
lost.
34:36
Well,
34:37
he
34:37
had
34:37
lost
34:37
his,
34:38
his
34:38
mom
34:38
about
34:38
a
34:39
year
34:39
ago
34:39
and
34:39
was
34:40
holding
34:40
on
34:40
to
34:40
all
34:41
of
34:41
the
34:41
grief.
34:42
And
34:42
he
34:42
doesn't
34:43
really
34:43
seem
34:43
like
34:43
it.
34:43
Like,
34:44
he
34:44
doesn't
34:45
seem
34:45
like
34:45
the
34:45
person
34:45
who
34:46
would
34:46
be
34:46
holding
34:46
on
34:46
to
34:47
a
34:47
bunch
34:47
of
34:47
grief.
34:47
And
34:48
we
34:48
all
34:48
walk
34:48
around
34:49
like,
34:50
totally
34:50
normal,
34:51
if
34:51
you
34:51
will.
34:52
Right,
34:53
exactly.
34:53
With
34:53
like
34:54
a
34:54
veil
34:54
over.
34:54
Right.
34:55
But
34:55
we
34:55
don't
34:55
realize
34:55
what
34:56
other
34:56
have
34:56
gone
34:57
through.
34:57
And
34:57
so
34:57
my
34:58
friend,
34:58
actually
34:58
he
34:59
was.
34:59
He
34:59
had
35:00
lost
35:00
his
35:00
mom
35:00
a
35:00
year
35:01
ago
35:01
and
35:01
then
35:01
was
35:01
holding
35:02
onto
35:02
that
35:02
grief
35:02
and
35:03
it
35:03
was
35:03
really
35:03
holding
35:03
him
35:04
down.
35:04
And
35:04
so
35:04
he's
35:04
like,
35:05
I
35:05
really
35:05
want
35:05
to
35:05
address
35:05
that
35:06
and
35:06
where
35:06
is
35:07
the
35:07
grief
35:07
and
35:07
let's
35:07
get
35:07
rid
35:08
of
35:08
some
35:08
of
35:08
it.
35:09
And
35:09
he,
35:09
as
35:10
he
35:10
was
35:10
doing
35:10
the
35:10
dynamics
35:11
technique
35:11
and
35:11
Going
35:11
back
35:12
throughout
35:12
these
35:13
memories
35:13
that
35:13
he
35:14
had,
35:14
he
35:14
realized
35:15
that
35:15
what
35:15
was
35:16
actually
35:16
causing
35:17
him
35:17
to
35:17
continue
35:18
to
35:18
hold
35:18
on
35:19
to
35:19
the
35:19
grief
35:19
was
35:20
that
35:20
he
35:20
lost
35:20
his
35:21
dad
35:21
when
35:22
he
35:22
was
35:22
about
35:22
1.
35:23
But
35:23
he
35:24
wasn't
35:24
associating
35:25
that
35:25
because
35:25
he's
35:25
like,
35:26
I
35:26
didn't
35:26
know
35:26
my
35:26
dad.
35:27
Like,
35:28
I
35:28
didn't
35:28
know
35:28
him,
35:29
and
35:29
so
35:29
why
35:29
would
35:29
that
35:30
cause
35:30
me
35:30
to
35:31
have,
35:31
you
35:31
know,
35:32
like,
35:32
an
35:32
upset
35:33
later
35:33
in
35:34
my
35:34
life?
35:35
But
35:35
he
35:35
was
35:35
associating
35:36
even
35:36
his
35:37
mom's,
35:38
like,
35:39
like,
35:39
mental
35:40
problems
35:41
and
35:41
her
35:41
emotions,
35:42
all
35:42
of
35:42
her
35:43
grief
35:43
that
35:43
she
35:43
was
35:44
feeling
35:44
at
35:44
that
35:44
moment.
35:45
He
35:45
was
35:46
holding
35:46
onto
35:47
her
35:47
mom's
35:47
grief,
35:48
which
35:48
later,
35:48
when
35:49
she
35:49
died,
35:49
he
35:50
was
35:50
then
35:50
holding
35:50
onto
35:51
her
35:51
grief.
35:52
And
35:52
then
35:52
that's
35:53
what
35:53
was
35:53
happening,
35:54
is
35:54
he
35:54
was
35:54
reliving
35:55
that.
35:56
And
35:56
when
35:56
he
35:56
actually
35:57
spotted
35:57
that
35:57
and
35:57
addressed
35:58
it
35:58
and
35:58
got
35:58
rid
35:59
of
35:59
all
35:59
the
35:59
mental,
36:00
negative
36:00
mental
36:01
energy,
36:01
he
36:02
was
36:02
able
36:02
to
36:02
finally
36:03
just
36:03
feel
36:03
relief.
36:04
And
36:04
it
36:04
was
36:04
the
36:05
most
36:05
beautiful
36:05
thing
36:06
because
36:06
he
36:06
finally
36:07
was
36:07
able
36:07
to
36:07
talk
36:07
about
36:08
his
36:08
parents
36:08
and
36:09
the
36:09
loss
36:09
of
36:09
his
36:09
mom
36:10
without,
36:10
like,
36:10
even
36:11
crying.
36:12
Just
36:12
had
36:12
this
36:13
beautiful,
36:14
you
36:14
know,
36:14
memory
36:15
and
36:15
that.
36:16
It
36:16
was.
36:16
It
36:17
was
36:17
great.
36:18
Yeah,
36:18
no,
36:19
I.
36:19
It's
36:19
so
36:20
liberating
36:20
when
36:21
you
36:21
can
36:21
let
36:21
go
36:21
of
36:22
that
36:22
emotional
36:22
charge
36:23
like
36:23
you
36:23
said,
36:23
or
36:23
that
36:24
electrical
36:25
charge
36:25
or
36:25
energy
36:25
charge
36:26
or
36:26
whatever
36:26
it
36:26
is
36:27
to
36:27
those
36:27
situations,
36:28
because
36:28
I
36:28
know
36:29
a
36:29
story.
36:29
That's
36:29
why
36:30
I
36:30
didn't
36:30
coach
36:30
for
36:30
so,
36:31
so,
36:31
so
36:31
long.
36:32
Because
36:33
me
36:33
being
36:34
in
36:34
a
36:34
room
36:34
and.
36:35
And
36:35
sharing
36:36
would
36:36
trigger
36:36
me.
36:36
I
36:37
mean,
36:37
that,
36:37
you
36:38
know,
36:38
and
36:38
I
36:38
couldn't
36:39
do
36:39
it.
36:39
I
36:40
was
36:40
like,
36:40
no.
36:40
But
36:40
now
36:40
it's
36:41
like,
36:41
I
36:41
tell
36:41
these
36:41
stories
36:42
so
36:42
casually,
36:42
and
36:43
people
36:43
are
36:43
like,
36:43
their
36:43
mouths
36:44
drop
36:44
open,
36:44
and
36:44
I'm
36:44
like,
36:45
it
36:45
was
36:45
just
36:45
a
36:46
thing,
36:46
like,
36:47
right?
36:47
No.
36:47
No
36:48
charge
36:48
to
36:48
it.
36:49
And,
36:49
you
36:49
know,
36:49
and
36:49
it's.
36:50
It's
36:50
so
36:51
liberating
36:51
just
36:52
because.
36:52
I
36:52
mean,
36:52
it's
36:53
just
36:53
liberating.
36:53
It
36:53
just.
36:54
It
36:54
makes
36:55
back
36:55
to
36:56
that
36:56
original,
36:56
like,
36:57
you
36:57
said,
36:57
that
36:57
joyous,
36:58
beautiful
36:59
creature
37:00
that
37:00
before
37:00
your
37:01
light
37:01
was
37:01
blown
37:01
out
37:02
with
37:02
a
37:02
bunch
37:02
of.
37:03
Can
37:04
I
37:04
say
37:04
that?
37:04
Oh,
37:04
this
37:04
my
37:04
podcast.
37:05
I
37:05
can
37:05
say
37:05
anything
37:05
I
37:06
want.
37:07
Wait,
37:08
I
37:08
don't
37:08
know
37:08
which
37:09
side
37:09
am
37:09
I
37:09
on
37:09
here?
37:11
But,
37:11
no,
37:12
that's
37:12
awesome.
37:13
So
37:13
do
37:13
you
37:13
work
37:14
directly
37:14
with
37:15
these
37:15
retreats
37:16
or
37:16
weekends
37:17
seminars?
37:18
Yeah,
37:18
well,
37:18
I
37:19
actually
37:19
work
37:19
at
37:19
the
37:20
publisher
37:20
of
37:21
the
37:21
book
37:21
Dianetics,
37:22
and
37:22
so
37:22
I
37:22
get
37:22
to
37:22
actually
37:23
help
37:23
people
37:24
all
37:24
the
37:24
time
37:25
with
37:25
the
37:25
book
37:26
Dianetics
37:26
and
37:26
the
37:26
technique
37:27
and
37:27
help
37:27
people
37:28
learn
37:28
about
37:28
it.
37:28
Because
37:30
let's,
37:30
like,
37:31
honestly,
37:31
there
37:32
is
37:32
no
37:32
education
37:33
out
37:33
there
37:33
that
37:34
gives
37:34
us,
37:34
like,
37:34
the
37:35
manual
37:35
for
37:35
the
37:36
mind.
37:37
Like,
37:37
truly.
37:38
Wouldn't
37:38
that
37:39
be
37:39
cool
37:39
if
37:39
there
37:39
was?
37:40
Yeah,
37:40
but
37:41
that's
37:41
what.
37:41
That's
37:41
what
37:42
Dianetics
37:42
is.
37:43
It's
37:43
actually
37:43
a
37:43
manual
37:44
for
37:44
the
37:44
mind.
37:45
And
37:45
I
37:46
like
37:46
to
37:46
explain
37:46
it
37:46
in
37:46
this
37:47
way
37:47
where
37:48
imagine
37:48
you
37:48
were
37:48
given
37:49
a
37:49
brand
37:50
new
37:50
machine
37:50
that
37:51
you
37:51
had
37:52
no
37:52
idea
37:52
how
37:52
to
37:53
operate
37:53
and
37:53
then
37:53
somebody
37:54
told
37:54
you,
37:55
okay,
37:55
I
37:55
need
37:55
you
37:56
to
37:56
work
37:56
this
37:56
machine
37:57
and
37:57
to
37:57
work
37:57
it
37:57
and
37:58
make
37:58
a
37:58
product
37:58
out
37:59
of
37:59
it.
37:59
And
37:59
you
38:00
stand
38:00
there
38:00
totally
38:01
clueless
38:01
and
38:01
don't
38:02
know
38:02
how
38:02
to
38:02
do
38:02
it.
38:03
And
38:03
you
38:03
weren't
38:03
given
38:03
a
38:03
manual,
38:04
you
38:04
wouldn't
38:05
know
38:05
what
38:05
to
38:05
do.
38:05
Right.
38:06
But
38:06
if
38:07
you
38:07
were
38:07
given
38:07
a
38:07
manual,
38:08
you
38:08
would
38:08
know
38:08
exactly
38:09
what
38:09
to
38:09
do,
38:09
how
38:09
to
38:10
operate
38:10
and
38:10
feel
38:10
very
38:10
confident
38:11
also
38:11
operating
38:12
it.
38:13
And
38:13
that's
38:13
exactly
38:14
how
38:14
Dianetics
38:15
works,
38:15
is
38:15
that
38:15
it
38:15
is
38:16
actually
38:16
a
38:16
manual
38:16
for
38:17
the
38:17
mind.
38:17
It
38:18
explains
38:18
these
38:18
two
38:19
parts
38:19
of
38:19
the
38:19
mind,
38:20
also,
38:20
the
38:21
reactive
38:21
mind,
38:21
how
38:22
that
38:22
works,
38:22
how
38:22
it
38:23
works
38:23
against
38:23
us,
38:23
why
38:24
it's
38:24
a
38:24
dangerous
38:25
thing.
38:25
And
38:25
not
38:25
only
38:25
that,
38:26
but
38:26
how
38:26
to
38:26
get
38:26
rid
38:27
of
38:27
it
38:27
so
38:27
that
38:28
you
38:28
are
38:29
not
38:29
affected
38:30
by
38:30
it.
38:30
And
38:30
that
38:31
gives
38:31
you
38:31
the
38:32
confidence
38:32
and
38:32
the
38:33
ability
38:33
to
38:33
fully
38:34
operate
38:35
at
38:35
your
38:36
full
38:36
ability.
38:37
And
38:38
you
38:38
are
38:39
just
38:39
you.
38:39
Because
38:40
your
38:40
mind,
38:40
as
38:41
you've
38:41
been
38:41
saying,
38:41
is
38:42
the
38:42
most
38:43
powerful
38:43
thing
38:44
that
38:44
we
38:44
have
38:45
and
38:45
that
38:45
you
38:46
have
38:46
control
38:46
over
38:47
because
38:48
nobody
38:48
else
38:49
is
38:49
going
38:49
to
38:49
be
38:49
able
38:50
to
38:50
control
38:51
you
38:51
except
38:51
for
38:52
you.
38:52
And
38:53
there's
38:53
nobody
38:53
that
38:53
knows
38:54
us
38:54
better
38:54
than
38:54
ourselves.
38:55
And
38:55
so
38:56
when
38:56
we
38:56
actually
38:56
put
38:56
in
38:57
the
38:57
work
38:57
and
38:57
we
38:57
learn
38:57
about
38:58
the
38:58
mind
38:58
and
38:58
get
38:58
that
38:59
education,
39:00
we
39:00
actually
39:00
are
39:01
able
39:01
to
39:01
take
39:01
control
39:02
of
39:02
it
39:02
and
39:02
take
39:02
responsibility
39:03
for
39:03
it
39:04
and,
39:05
you
39:05
know,
39:05
improve
39:06
our
39:06
lives
39:06
and
39:06
be
39:06
able
39:07
to
39:07
live
39:07
up
39:07
to
39:07
our
39:07
full
39:07
potential
39:08
that
39:08
we
39:08
want
39:08
to.
39:09
Awesome.
39:10
Yes,
39:11
very
39:11
well
39:11
said,
39:12
very
39:12
well
39:12
said.
39:13
So,
39:13
okay,
39:14
so
39:14
you
39:14
work
39:14
in.
39:15
Do
39:15
you
39:16
work
39:16
with
39:16
people
39:16
one
39:16
on
39:17
one
39:17
or
39:18
can
39:18
people
39:19
reach
39:19
out
39:19
to
39:19
you
39:19
is
39:19
what
39:20
I'm
39:20
saying.
39:20
Absolutely.
39:21
If
39:21
people
39:21
want
39:21
to
39:22
reach
39:22
out
39:22
to
39:22
me,
39:22
they
39:22
absolutely
39:23
can.
39:23
And
39:23
like
39:24
I
39:24
was
39:24
saying,
39:24
also
39:24
like
39:25
you,
39:25
we
39:26
have
39:26
Dianetics
39:26
foundations
39:27
all
39:27
over
39:28
the
39:28
world.
39:28
So
39:29
if
39:29
you
39:29
are,
39:29
I
39:30
mean,
39:30
if
39:30
you
39:30
are
39:30
anywhere
39:31
in
39:31
the
39:31
world,
39:31
you
39:31
can
39:31
go
39:32
up
39:32
to
39:32
dianetics.org
39:33
and
39:34
you
39:34
can
39:34
find
39:34
the
39:34
nearest
39:34
one
39:35
near
39:35
you.
39:36
Okay.
39:36
And
39:37
then
39:37
if
39:37
you
39:37
want
39:37
more
39:38
information,
39:38
you
39:38
can
39:38
obviously
39:39
go
39:39
to
39:39
dianetics.org
39:40
you
39:41
could
39:41
also,
39:42
you
39:42
could
39:42
get
39:42
the
39:42
book
39:43
on
39:43
Amazon
39:44
or
39:44
Barnes
39:44
Noble
39:44
or
39:45
anywhere
39:45
that
39:45
books
39:45
are
39:46
sold.
39:47
And
39:47
then
39:47
of
39:47
course,
39:47
you
39:48
can
39:48
always
39:48
find
39:48
us
39:48
on
39:48
our
39:49
social
39:49
media
39:49
accounts,
39:50
Dianetics.
39:51
And
39:51
you're
39:52
more
39:52
than
39:52
welcome
39:52
to
39:53
connect
39:53
with
39:53
us
39:53
at
39:53
any,
39:54
like,
39:55
any
39:55
way
39:55
that
39:55
you
39:55
possibly
39:56
can
39:56
on.
39:56
We
39:57
have
39:57
connections
39:58
all
39:58
over
39:58
the
39:58
place,
39:59
so.
39:59
Love
40:00
it.
40:00
Thank
40:00
you
40:01
so
40:01
much.
40:01
This
40:01
has
40:02
been
40:02
very
40:02
enlightening.
40:03
I
40:03
love
40:03
it.
40:03
Thank
40:04
you.
40:04
I
40:04
enjoyed
40:05
our
40:05
conversation.
40:06
Yes,
40:06
absolutely.
40:06
And
40:07
for
40:07
everybody
40:07
else,
40:07
oh,
40:07
wait,
40:08
you're
40:08
not
40:08
off
40:08
the
40:08
hook.
40:09
Give
40:09
them
40:09
your
40:10
biggest,
40:10
boldest
40:12
statement.
40:13
Words
40:13
of
40:13
wisdom
40:14
from
40:14
Josie.
40:14
Josie
40:15
Gibson.
40:16
My
40:17
biggest,
40:18
boldest
40:18
statement
40:19
is
40:19
in
40:19
this
40:20
20,
40:20
26
40:21
year
40:22
or
40:22
even
40:22
in
40:22
the
40:23
future.
40:23
If
40:23
you're
40:23
listening
40:24
to
40:24
this,
40:25
I
40:26
encourage
40:26
you
40:26
to
40:27
do
40:27
something
40:27
new
40:27
about
40:28
your
40:28
mental
40:28
health
40:29
and
40:29
to
40:30
take
40:30
that
40:30
next
40:30
step
40:31
to
40:31
actually
40:32
improve
40:32
yourself
40:33
and
40:33
be
40:33
willing
40:34
to
40:35
improve
40:35
yourself
40:36
to
40:36
the
40:37
point
40:37
where
40:37
you're
40:37
able
40:38
to
40:38
live
40:38
up
40:38
to
40:38
your
40:39
fullest
40:39
potential.
40:40
Amen.
40:41
I
40:41
love
40:42
it.
40:42
Thank
40:43
you
40:43
so,
40:43
so
40:44
much
40:44
for
40:44
coming
40:44
on
40:45
and
40:45
for
40:45
everybody
40:46
else
40:46
out
40:46
there
40:46
listening,
40:47
another
40:48
technique,
40:49
another
40:49
modality,
40:50
another
40:51
bit
40:51
of
40:51
resources.
40:52
This
40:52
is
40:53
what
40:53
we're
40:53
here
40:53
for
40:53
here
40:54
at
40:54
Adult
40:54
Childhood
40:54
Dysfunction.
40:55
So
40:55
that
40:55
you
40:55
know
40:56
that
40:56
you
40:56
are
40:56
not
40:56
alone,
40:57
that
40:57
your
40:57
struggles
40:58
are
40:58
not
41:00
unique,
41:01
and
41:01
not
41:01
that
41:01
they're
41:01
not
41:01
unique,
41:02
but
41:02
that
41:02
we
41:03
all
41:03
have
41:03
them.
41:03
We
41:04
all
41:04
have
41:04
those
41:04
struggles.
41:05
We
41:05
all
41:06
have
41:06
those
41:06
inner
41:07
critics.
41:07
We
41:08
all
41:08
have
41:08
those
41:08
reactive
41:09
minds.
41:10
Until
41:10
we
41:10
don't.
41:11
And
41:12
it
41:12
is
41:12
worth
41:12
every
41:13
step
41:13
and
41:13
every
41:13
second
41:14
that
41:14
you
41:14
spend
41:15
learning
41:16
how
41:16
to
41:17
undo
41:17
some
41:18
of
41:18
the
41:18
stuff
41:18
that
41:18
was
41:18
done
41:19
to
41:19
you.
41:20
And
41:21
like
41:21
you
41:21
said,
41:21
it's
41:21
not
41:22
your
41:22
fault.
41:22
None
41:22
of
41:22
this
41:22
is
41:23
your
41:23
fault.
41:23
But
41:24
if
41:24
you're
41:24
looking
41:24
for
41:24
a
41:25
more
41:25
happy
41:25
and
41:26
joyous
41:26
life,
41:26
you,
41:26
oh,
41:27
so
41:27
deserve
41:27
it,
41:27
my
41:28
friends.
41:28
So
41:29
we
41:29
will
41:29
see
41:29
you
41:29
back
41:30
next
41:30
week.
41:31
Thank
41:31
you.
41:35
You.