Latest / Influencer Confidential / How to Work With Brands (Without Being an Influencer) #297
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to Influencer Confidential by Sidewalker Daily. My name is
- 0:04Speaker 1: Nina Zeta and I will be your host. I love
- 0:07Speaker 1: working with brands and influencers on all things business strategy.
- 0:11Speaker 1: Are you ready to learn what it takes to work
- 0:13Speaker 1: in this influencer industry and see behind the current Well,
- 0:16Speaker 1: let's jump in. If you want to work with brands
- 0:23Speaker 1: but don't think of yourself as a traditional influencer, but
- 0:26Speaker 1: you still want to do strategic partnerships where you reach
- 0:29Speaker 1: out to other brands. Whether you are a business owner,
- 0:32Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, a coach, a podcaster, a UGC creator, a founder,
- 0:37Speaker 1: whatever it is, this is for you because we're going
- 0:39Speaker 1: to talk about strategic and creative ways that you can
- 0:43Speaker 1: reach out to other brands in your industry, in your space,
- 0:46Speaker 1: maybe even outside your industry, to help you monetize through partnerships. Partnerships.
- 0:53Speaker 1: You guys are the key for so many successful deals
- 0:57Speaker 1: and so many times I feel like when I especially
- 0:59Speaker 1: when I meet like a business owner, they're like, well,
- 1:01Speaker 1: brand deals are just for influencers. I'm like, says who.
- 1:05Speaker 1: There are so many ways that you as a company
- 1:07Speaker 1: or you as a brand can partner with other companies,
- 1:10Speaker 1: other brands and make money together. And that's what I
- 1:13Speaker 1: kind of want to talk about is kind of removing
- 1:15Speaker 1: that word influencer from the equation and thinking yourself as
- 1:18Speaker 1: more as an entrepreneur and other businesses that you guys
- 1:20Speaker 1: can partner with. I'm talking coaches or speakers, you guys,
- 1:24Speaker 1: if you are a course creator, you can still pitch brands. Okay,
- 1:29Speaker 1: it's not just limited to influencer. And I'll let me explain.
- 1:32Speaker 1: Let's just say you are a coach or a course
- 1:35Speaker 1: creator or both. Let's just say you're like a fitness
- 1:37Speaker 1: coach and you have a course on a topic. You're
- 1:41Speaker 1: going to be pitching that brand, and instead of leveraging
- 1:43Speaker 1: your influencer following, you're leveraging your students and your community. Right. So,
- 1:48Speaker 1: let's just say you are a fitness coach and you
- 1:50Speaker 1: want to reach out to a fitness brand. Your pitch
- 1:53Speaker 1: may sound like that you want them to sponsor a
- 1:55Speaker 1: module in your program, or a bonus in your course
- 1:59Speaker 1: and pro or maybe for every coaching client you bring
- 2:02Speaker 1: on you have an onboarding slide, and that brand is
- 2:05Speaker 1: going to be integrated into every single onboarding client that
- 2:08Speaker 1: you get. These types of pitches are also really successful
- 2:13Speaker 1: because they're high converting. If you have a paid student community,
- 2:16Speaker 1: a paid course, those people trust you in ways that
- 2:19Speaker 1: people on the internet do not. Their trust level is heightened.
- 2:23Speaker 1: So as a course creator or a coach, you can
- 2:26Speaker 1: go in and pitch sponsorships. One of my favorite strategies
- 2:30Speaker 1: I share it with my community, my inner circle membership
- 2:33Speaker 1: community is the brought to you by example. So when
- 2:37Speaker 1: I say brought to you by this is when I say, like, hey,
- 2:41Speaker 1: there's a free program you guys, and it's yours to have,
- 2:44Speaker 1: and it was brought to you by brand name. This
- 2:48Speaker 1: allows you to create really useful content for your audience
- 2:52Speaker 1: and they're getting it for free, but it was brought
- 2:54Speaker 1: to you by Hello Fresh, or it was brought to
- 2:57Speaker 1: you by Adobe. You are creating content your audience gets
- 3:01Speaker 1: to benefit, your students get to benefit, your coaching clients
- 3:04Speaker 1: get to benefit, but it was brought to you by
- 3:07Speaker 1: this specific brand. Even if you have a course, and
- 3:10Speaker 1: let's just say you have a step by step system
- 3:12Speaker 1: in your course, oftentimes people are gonna ask you what
- 3:15Speaker 1: are your recommendations rather than just putting an affiliate link
- 3:18Speaker 1: inside your recommendations and sharing multiple You could also go
- 3:22Speaker 1: all in and say this is the number one brand
- 3:24Speaker 1: I recommend for this pain point. So again, if your
- 3:27Speaker 1: fitness you're like, this is the number one protein shake
- 3:30Speaker 1: and this entire module would be sponsored by said brand.
- 3:35Speaker 1: You can do this. You can have it as a
- 3:37Speaker 1: module within your course, or you could even have it
- 3:40Speaker 1: as a bonus. Now I know I tend to attract
- 3:44Speaker 1: lots of travel influencers. Let's just say you guys wanted
- 3:46Speaker 1: to make an itinerary. I think a lot of creators
- 3:49Speaker 1: love to do itinerary based content. Again, this itinerary was
- 3:53Speaker 1: brought to you by this Tiers of Board, and that's
- 3:55Speaker 1: why everyone gets to download it for free because of
- 3:58Speaker 1: Tiers of Board paid for it. So again, thinking of
- 4:00Speaker 1: like these sort of assets that you could do and create,
- 4:04Speaker 1: but the brand is making it accessible to your audience.
- 4:07Speaker 1: Another strategy, let's just say you're a podcaster, is not
- 4:11Speaker 1: only thinking about like your podcast sponsors, you know, mid roll,
- 4:14Speaker 1: pre roll, things of that nature. That's very typical and standard.
- 4:18Speaker 1: You could also do sponsored interviews, so that would be
- 4:22Speaker 1: a larger slot. So let's just say one of your
- 4:25Speaker 1: interviews is going to be with someone on the marketing
- 4:28Speaker 1: team of this brand that you want to work with,
- 4:30Speaker 1: and you're going to be interviewing them, asking them questions,
- 4:33Speaker 1: making it really organic and authentic. And again, if your
- 4:36Speaker 1: audience is listening to you for forty five minutes and
- 4:39Speaker 1: now you have a brand in this conversation, your conversions
- 4:42Speaker 1: are going to be way higher than if it was
- 4:44Speaker 1: just like a thirty second brand clip. So one of
- 4:47Speaker 1: the things I love telling my podcasters to do when
- 4:49Speaker 1: they talk about brand deals is pitch sponsored episodes, not integrations,
- 4:55Speaker 1: but full on episodes. Remember, people love to talk about themselves,
- 4:59Speaker 1: So if you're able to to bring in someone from
- 5:01Speaker 1: the marketing team or someone that they want to have
- 5:03Speaker 1: represent a founder, this is a great opportunity for that
- 5:07Speaker 1: founder to get in front of very clear eyes an audience,
- 5:11Speaker 1: and you're giving them that opportunity. I have had scenarios
- 5:15Speaker 1: where I have pitched, hey, let's do a sponsored Instagram
- 5:18Speaker 1: or sponsored YouTube or podcasts, and they're like, no, I
- 5:21Speaker 1: don't know. But then I'm like, or I could have
- 5:23Speaker 1: one of your team on our podcasts and they're like,
- 5:25Speaker 1: we love it. It feels different, it feels exciting. So
- 5:29Speaker 1: you can also leverage dedicated videos on your podcast as
- 5:32Speaker 1: a way to lock in sponsorships. If you are an
- 5:35Speaker 1: expert in your field, maybe you have a substack, maybe
- 5:38Speaker 1: you have a newsletter community or a really engaged Facebook
- 5:43Speaker 1: group on a specific niche topic. You know need Facebook
- 5:46Speaker 1: creators I end up working with that have these really
- 5:49Speaker 1: engaged groups. We're going to pitch those groups or newsletter
- 5:53Speaker 1: creators that I help sponsor their newsletter. This again our
- 5:57Speaker 1: brand deals. You guys, these are strategic partnerships, but they're
- 6:01Speaker 1: not typical influencer Instagram TikTok partnerships. You are going in
- 6:06Speaker 1: and sharing your niche group. Maybe it's your you know,
- 6:09Speaker 1: slack community, or maybe you have a really intense discord
- 6:12Speaker 1: community again, newsletter or whatever it may be. If you
- 6:17Speaker 1: are an expert and you have a niche community somewhere
- 6:20Speaker 1: that is not traditionally like on social media, you can
- 6:23Speaker 1: still do partnerships at that level. I personally love seeing
- 6:27Speaker 1: newsletter sponsorships. If you guys have a list of some sort,
- 6:30Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see way more sponsorships on substack
- 6:34Speaker 1: because again, there are so many writers now on substack.
- 6:38Speaker 1: There's such an engaged community over there, so I feel
- 6:41Speaker 1: like you are going to start to see a lot
- 6:43Speaker 1: more sponsored newsletters over there. Now, speaking of substack, if
- 6:47Speaker 1: you are a creator that wants to get like brand
- 6:51Speaker 1: opportunities in your inbox, I have to share with you
- 6:54Speaker 1: guys quickly about our substack here at Sidewalker Daily. Honestly,
- 6:59Speaker 1: it is amazing. For the price of one coffee, you guys,
- 7:02Speaker 1: you're going to get three opportunities sent to your inbox
- 7:05Speaker 1: Monday through Friday. It's about sixty opportunities a month different
- 7:10Speaker 1: you know, pitch ideas or UGC jobs, or maybe a
- 7:13Speaker 1: PR agency told us about a campaign and they want
- 7:16Speaker 1: us to send it out to you guys. This is
- 7:18Speaker 1: an amazing opportunity to get these directly inside your inbox
- 7:22Speaker 1: and then you guys can pitch those sort of brands directly.
- 7:25Speaker 1: We also give the contact information to our paid subscribers,
- 7:29Speaker 1: and yes, we also have a free version. You guys
- 7:31Speaker 1: can go ahead and check it out. I will leave
- 7:33Speaker 1: our substock below. It's called the Paid Creator and it's
- 7:37Speaker 1: really for that creator who wants those, you know, opportunities
- 7:39Speaker 1: in their inbox in the morning. It takes the stress
- 7:42Speaker 1: off of pitching. You get those brands in your inbox
- 7:45Speaker 1: and you can pitch them directly. Another strategy I want
- 7:47Speaker 1: to share if you are listening in and maybe you're
- 7:50Speaker 1: a paid speaker or a non paid speaker and you
- 7:52Speaker 1: just do workshops and stuff. This was so interesting. This
- 7:55Speaker 1: actually happened with a creator in our community. She would
- 7:58Speaker 1: go and do speaking jobs at the these like big
- 8:00Speaker 1: expos and the brand would pay her to be an
- 8:03Speaker 1: ambassador at the expo, so she would literally wear the
- 8:06Speaker 1: branded shirt on stage or while she was walking around.
- 8:10Speaker 1: To me, that was just mind blowing because again, they're
- 8:12Speaker 1: not paying her for you know, a post, they're not
- 8:14Speaker 1: paying her for a short form video. They're paying her
- 8:17Speaker 1: to represent them at an event. So if you are
- 8:21Speaker 1: at events or you're speaking at events, you can pitch
- 8:24Speaker 1: those brands. You can say, I'll be speaking at this
- 8:26Speaker 1: global expo. There's going to be this amount of attendees.
- 8:30Speaker 1: This is my topic I'll be speaking on. I would
- 8:32Speaker 1: love to have, you know, an ambassador's style type of
- 8:35Speaker 1: role where I could represent you at this event. And
- 8:39Speaker 1: now you're getting paid to represent the brand at the event.
- 8:42Speaker 1: And this, my friends, is thinking creatively. This is pitching different.
- 8:46Speaker 1: This is giving brands something that maybe feels fresh and new.
- 8:50Speaker 1: And in person. In person stuff converts really well. You
- 8:53Speaker 1: could even bring you know, business cards that are branded
- 8:56Speaker 1: with that brand's information as well. The sky is the limit,
- 9:00Speaker 1: and that's why I feel like creators need to kind
- 9:02Speaker 1: of remove themselves from traditional brand deals and start thinking
- 9:06Speaker 1: about how can they make brands integrate them as part
- 9:09Speaker 1: of their daily life and routine, Especially if you are
- 9:13Speaker 1: going to conferences, going to events, speaking and all of that.
- 9:17Speaker 1: This is a great way to reach out to brands
- 9:18Speaker 1: and get paid to bring that brand along. Now again,
- 9:22Speaker 1: if you guys need help in this specific area of
- 9:25Speaker 1: your biz, do not hesitate speaking to our success manager.
- 9:28Speaker 1: She will let you know how I can support you.
- 9:30Speaker 1: It's not a one size fits all. Maybe you guys
- 9:33Speaker 1: need specific pitching materials or you want me to get
- 9:36Speaker 1: involved in your outreach strategy. I do one on one coaching,
- 9:39Speaker 1: I do group coaching. There's different ways that I can
- 9:42Speaker 1: support you. So go ahead and click below to get
- 9:45Speaker 1: on a call with our success manager so she can
- 9:47Speaker 1: put you in the right direction of how I can
- 9:50Speaker 1: support you in your strategic partnerships. Because guys, this is
- 9:53Speaker 1: what I love to do and I'm also quite good
- 9:56Speaker 1: at it. Now, another thing, I did not mention, but
- 9:58Speaker 1: I do think it's important. If you're an expert in
- 10:01Speaker 1: your space. Let's just say you're an expert, you know,
- 10:03Speaker 1: in the medical field or legal field or something of
- 10:06Speaker 1: that nature, and there is a brand that again you
- 10:09Speaker 1: live and swear by or you want it to be
- 10:12Speaker 1: part of your recommendation list, do not be afraid to
- 10:14Speaker 1: reach out to those brands. I always tell my pediatrician, like,
- 10:17Speaker 1: anything she recommends, I'm gonna buy because I trust her
- 10:20Speaker 1: and I know that she can't be bought, so she
- 10:23Speaker 1: could be really selective with the types of brands that
- 10:25Speaker 1: she reaches out to. But if there are brands or
- 10:28Speaker 1: things that you really think are important, yes, you can
- 10:31Speaker 1: set up your storefront, you can do affiliates with them.
- 10:34Speaker 1: I'm totally dumb for that. Or you could say, listen,
- 10:36Speaker 1: I'd love to work with you guys on this basis.
- 10:39Speaker 1: I get this amount of you know, people in my
- 10:41Speaker 1: office a week. I'd love to showcase you as the
- 10:44Speaker 1: number one recommendation. Maybe you have a brick and mortar store,
- 10:47Speaker 1: or maybe you have something that requires people to come
- 10:49Speaker 1: see you in person. You can also reach out to
- 10:52Speaker 1: those brands and let them know about the opportunity. Again,
- 10:56Speaker 1: it does not all have to be social media related anyways, y'all,
- 10:59Speaker 1: I hope that this series has helped you think about
- 11:02Speaker 1: your partnerships bigger and better, not only brand deals online,
- 11:07Speaker 1: brand deals offline speaking jobs. Getting you guys thinking about
- 11:11Speaker 1: press pitching in general is so vital to your business,
- 11:15Speaker 1: knocking on doors, letting people know you exist. And I
- 11:19Speaker 1: hope this series has opened your mind your horizons about
- 11:22Speaker 1: the type of opportunities that are out there for you guys.
- 11:26Speaker 1: If you want to rewatch this series, today's episode was
- 11:29Speaker 1: the last, we will link the playlist below so you
- 11:32Speaker 1: can watch them all from the beginning and make it
- 11:34Speaker 1: really easy for you guys to dive in step by step.
- 11:38Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed today's episode. If you did, make
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