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- 0:00Alexandra Reid:: Things that add up really quickly. I often talk
- 0:02about the frog in the water, and you start cranking up the
- 0:05temperature. And suddenly, the poor frog, he's in the boiling
- 0:09water. But if he jumped into it initially, he would jump right
- 0:12out. But the problem is when you crank up the pressure slowly,
- 0:15that's when the burnout sort of sneaks up on you. And what's
- 0:19interesting after the women go through this program, and I've
- 0:21worked with both one-on-one and with groups. And one of the
- 0:25biggest successes is saying they have time again. And it's not
- 0:29like time is a magical thing, right? We all have 24 hours a
- 0:32day, 60 minutes. What's interesting is how you spend
- 0:35that time, and how you choose, and that's the key thing.
- 0:39Choosing, awareness, and intent. Where do you spend that precious
- 0:44time?
- 0:48Dr. Jim Price:: Hello, I'm Dr. Jim Price, and welcome to The
- 0:52Purpose and Progress Podcast. This is the place where we
- 0:56explore how purpose can guide our actions, and how growth can
- 1:00become a part of our everyday lives. On the show, I talk with
- 1:04amazing guests, from educators and creators to everyday people
- 1:09with extraordinary stories about the challenges they face, the
- 1:13lessons they've learned, and how to keep moving forward. My goal
- 1:16is to share conversations that inspire you to live
- 1:19intentionally, embrace growth, and take meaningful steps to
- 1:23your own purpose. Let's get started.
- 1:30Welcome, everyone. Once again, this is The Purpose and Progress
- 1:33podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Jim Price, where we share
- 1:36motivational stories and inspirational stories about
- 1:39amazing folks from all industries to share their
- 1:43journey. We always see the success of someone, and we look
- 1:47at the glamor and the glitz of success. But sometimes, a lot of
- 1:50times, we don't know the backstory to how a person has
- 1:53reached success, which always can be actionable steps. Steps
- 1:57that take time to build over time. So today is no different.
- 2:01We have a wonderful guest. She is a creative wellness coach,
- 2:05business owner, and former research scientist who helped
- 2:08high-achieving women, particularly those in STEM,
- 2:11rebuild purpose and resilience through creativity, mindfulness,
- 2:15and reflection. After experiencing burnout during the
- 2:19pandemic, she discovered that simple, pressure-free drawing
- 2:23helped her slow down, rebuild self-trust, and reconnect with
- 2:26joy. Today, she shares practical, science-informed
- 2:30strategies for managing burnout, setting boundaries,
- 2:34strengthening self-leadership, and making meaningful progress
- 2:38when the next step feels unclear. Her approach shows that
- 2:41progress is not always about doing more. It can begin by
- 2:45learning to listen to yourself again. And today, we have Lexi
- 2:50Reid with us. How are you doing, Lexi?
- 2:53Alexandra Reid:: It's great to be here. Thanks, Jim.
- 2:55Dr. Jim Price:: This is so great to have you on the show. We talk
- 2:56a little bit beforehand about parenting never stops and stuff
- 3:01like that. How that goes and everything like that. So it's
- 3:06definitely great to have you on the show today to share with the
- 3:08audience some motivational things and stuff like that.
- 3:11That's what we do. So I think we start off with asking like, when
- 3:16do you feel like your journey started? And what influenced
- 3:19that for you?
- 3:21Alexandra Reid:: Yeah. It all depends which part of the
- 3:23journey you want to pick up. There could be the part where I
- 3:25loved doing art as a child, but I also loved doing science. And
- 3:30when I was heading off to school and university, my parents
- 3:33really thought probably a sure bet to go into science rather
- 3:37than fine art. So that being said, I did science for a number
- 3:39of years. Did the academic ladder, the bachelor's, the
- 3:43master's, the PhD, the postdoc. So I did the academic ladder,
- 3:47and from there, I kind of moved to working for a not-for-profit,
- 3:51working with the federal government. And then lastly,
- 3:54working in a corporate environment. And that's where I
- 3:57hit the burnout that you mentioned. So I was working for
- 4:00a medical device company. And during the pandemic, we landed a
- 4:04large government contract to build emergency ventilators. So
- 4:08this was the early days of the pandemic. We'd all just been
- 4:10sent home. I had two kids at home. One just started high
- 4:13school. One just started middle school. I was working 24/7 from
- 4:18my bedroom being on Zoom calls, all of that. Trying to juggle
- 4:23homeschooling kids. I was in quality and regulatory affairs,
- 4:27so we were the ones basically approving these ventilators from
- 4:32design all the way to prototyping. And yeah, it was
- 4:36before we had the vaccine, so we wanted to get these out to the
- 4:39public. Like tomorrow, basically. So there was a lot of
- 4:43pressure, but we also knew we were being regulatory. We were
- 4:47the last ones to basically say, yeah, these are safe to use on
- 4:50people. And so there's a lot of pressure. And for me, up until
- 4:55that point, I had a studio at home, I did a lot of art, I used
- 4:59to do jewelry, and I found during that time I couldn't even
- 5:03go into my studio and start. I would stare at my supplies like
- 5:07I was just feeling so numb from everything. I was numb from
- 5:11work. I was numb from juggling family. And for me, somehow
- 5:17getting back to my creativity, I had to start really slowly, baby
- 5:21steps. I just started doodling on these endless Zoom calls
- 5:26during the meetings, and I was never a big doodler before. I
- 5:29was an artistic snob, doodling's not my thing. If you're not
- 5:33making a real painting, why bother? But I started realizing
- 5:37that my breathing was slowing down, my shoulders were
- 5:39relaxing, and so I started investigating art therapy, and
- 5:43that led me to mindfulness, and that led me to positive mindset
- 5:47and to coaching. And so I started first doing these
- 5:51exercises myself, and then developing it into a curriculum.
- 5:57That's what led me down the path of creative wellness. Then I
- 6:03basically started the entrepreneurial journey, and
- 6:06working with women in STEM. So Science, Technology,
- 6:09Engineering, and Math. Very much my background, and working with
- 6:13women in all stages of life from early masters, beginning grad
- 6:17school, beginning a med school, all the way to mid-career
- 6:20crisis, life crisis and beyond. And what does retirement look
- 6:24like? What do I do? What if I start a new job? 5th or 6th
- 6:29careers down the road. So yeah, that's the broad sweep of how I
- 6:33got going on this particular journey.
- 6:35Dr. Jim Price:: Wow, that's amazing. We talked about the
- 6:37pandemic because I know exactly how that was. I'm a school
- 6:39counselor. So during that time, I have to do social groups. They
- 6:44were supposed to log in at a certain time for social group.
- 6:46And a lot of times, they wouldn't log in. You wouldn't
- 6:50see anybody, and the principal come and check just to see
- 6:54what's going on, and there'd be no students. I'm still waiting
- 6:56and stuff like that. I could totally connect with that.
- 7:00There's such a disconnect back then. Many people went through
- 7:03so much during that time. This is just amazing how that's been
- 7:08a few good years ago now, and it seems like it hasn't. But with
- 7:12all the social distancing and everything, that's an amazing
- 7:15aspect of how you share that. The creativity, connecting the
- 7:20creativity through situations of crisis, in a sense, and using
- 7:26that to regulate and have things even out for you in that way.
- 7:30That's amazing. I also wanted to, in terms of maybe any
- 7:34obstacles or challenges, I know you mentioned the burnout and
- 7:36stuff like that, but can you maybe go into that a little bit?
- 7:41Give the audience a little bit, people are feeling burnt out,
- 7:44and maybe some things that they could do to kind of maybe curb
- 7:48before they get to that point and stuff. Maybe things that
- 7:52they could do for themselves.
- 7:55Alexandra Reid:: Yeah. So a lot of the women I work with, and
- 7:57obviously this applies to men as well. I feel like women face a
- 8:01lot of other, what they call invisible labor. There's a lot
- 8:04of times that the women I work with are in very high positions
- 8:08of power, and so they feel like they have to mask their emotions
- 8:11and just be one of the boys. And so a lot of times, it's not
- 8:15letting themselves be themselves at work, and so that extra
- 8:21burden of carrying that weight as well. And so when I talk to
- 8:26them about beginning to work with me or just what problems
- 8:30are they facing, and I ask what their number one obstacle is for
- 8:34working with me, and it's always that perceived lack of time or
- 8:38one more task to do. And what's interesting is after they go
- 8:42through, it's a 12 week program called the Creative Reset, and
- 8:45it's been shown that you kind of need 12 weeks to build new
- 8:48habits and start getting rid of bad habits. And burnout is
- 8:52basically a series of bad habits that lead you into taking on too
- 8:57many things at once. Not being able to say no, overcommitting.
- 9:01Just a lot of things that add up really quickly. I often talk
- 9:05about the frog in the water, and you start cranking up the
- 9:08temperature. And suddenly, the poor frog, he's in boiling
- 9:12water. But if he jumped into it initially, he would jump right
- 9:15out. But the problem is when you crank up the pressure slowly,
- 9:18that's when the burnout sneaks up on you. And what's
- 9:23interesting after the women go through this program, and I've
- 9:25worked with both one on one and with groups, and one of the
- 9:29biggest successes is saying they have time again. And it's not
- 9:33like time is a magical thing, right? We all have 24 hours a
- 9:36day, 60 minutes. What's interesting is how you spend
- 9:39that time, and how you choose, and that's the key thing.
- 9:43Choosing, and awareness, and intent. Where do you spend that
- 9:47precious time? And by doing a lot of these exercises, we do a
- 9:52lot of self-reflection and also discussion, whether it's
- 9:55one-on-one with me, and we go quite deep into the topics. Or
- 9:58in a group, and we have that shared commonality of, oh, I
- 10:02feel that way. Oh, that's a different way of looking at it.
- 10:04So both shared experiences and different perspectives. That's
- 10:09the biggest obstacle. And yet the big success is getting your
- 10:13time back to yourself to choose how do you want to spend it.
- 10:17Dr. Jim Price:: Absolutely. I think the audience definitely
- 10:20can resonate with time because a lot of people say, oh, there's
- 10:24not enough time to do everything you need to do on a typical day.
- 10:27And I always see that too. A lot of people sometimes get caught
- 10:30up with the rigors of everyday life with their own situations
- 10:33that they forget to get back to themselves and do something for
- 10:35themselves, do some self-care things for themselves, and break
- 10:39up the monotony of all the responsibilities of life. Bills,
- 10:43kids and families, cooking dinner and all those things that
- 10:48entail everyday living and stuff like that. So I think those are
- 10:52fabulous points. I think the audience will definitely be able
- 10:54to utilize and stuff. And sometimes, people, like I say,
- 10:57self care is important too. And people do forget that aspect of
- 11:01things to do those kind of things, so thank you. In terms
- 11:04of your program, talk a bit about the program just a little
- 11:09bit more. Give our audience a gist of, I know you touched upon
- 11:13it, but just for the audience, members who may want to be a
- 11:17part of getting service and stuff in that way.
- 11:22Alexandra Reid:: Yeah. So actually, there's two aspects.
- 11:24There's the creative reset, which is that 12 week program. I
- 11:27should let people know there is a taster on my website. They can
- 11:30try it for five days, and it's a very similar experience. You're
- 11:33basically given a video, and it's me demonstrating an art
- 11:38therapy inspired exercise, a creative wellness exercise, and
- 11:42it can take anywhere from 5 minutes to 10 minutes to do the
- 11:44exercise. So they're meant to be quick. That being said, you can
- 11:48also spend as long as you like. Because sometimes, I find people
- 11:51actually really get into what they're drawing, and it can be
- 11:55as simple as just, I say it's like the level of doing
- 11:57pictionary. Like it's stick people, it's drawing what means
- 12:00something to you. It doesn't have to look like a finished
- 12:02piece of art. It's really more like a visual journaling. So
- 12:06it's getting what's swirling around in your head onto paper
- 12:10that allows some objectivity. Once it's on the paper, you can
- 12:15look at it, you can share it, you can put it away, and then
- 12:18come back to it. So as part of the Fuller program, there's two
- 12:23activities each week. And each week is themed. So maybe we'll
- 12:26look at what we call energy zappers. What's draining your
- 12:29energy? Who's draining your energy? Setting boundaries
- 12:33Looking at things that light you up, things that fill your cup.
- 12:37And some of these are names of activities that we do. There's
- 12:40an exercise called Batteries, and this is very simple. You
- 12:43basically draw a series of rectangles and put little tops
- 12:47on them, make them look like batteries. And each of these
- 12:49rectangles represents some aspect of your life, whether
- 12:52it's your career, whether it's your home life, whether it's
- 12:54self care. Maybe it's spirituality. Some aspect of
- 12:58your life. And basically, you just scroll, is it 50% full? Is
- 13:03it quarter empty? And then maybe draw some things or write some
- 13:08words. What's ever easier of, what are some ways that you
- 13:12could increase that battery or decrease it? Maybe you're
- 13:17finding that you're spending too much time on career, and maybe
- 13:20you want to shift that energy towards family. So it's a very
- 13:23simple drawing exercise. But the thoughtfulness and awareness of
- 13:28things that come out of doing that by taking time to reflect,
- 13:32where is your energy going? Where would you like it to go?
- 13:35How can you change those various aspects? And then we get into
- 13:39different habits. How do you work towards setting those
- 13:42goals? Because what I like about creative wellness coaching, as
- 13:45opposed to pure art therapy, is coaching is very forward
- 13:49focused. It's about working towards a goal. Whereas therapy
- 13:52is more dealing with things in your past, and it's still very
- 13:56valuable. But I like the positive, moving forward aspect
- 14:00of the coaching side of things.
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- 14:41I love the drawing aspect. Because with drawing, you could
- 14:44become comfortable, and you can do it without feeling any bias,
- 14:49or any judgment upon anything. And then at the end, you have a
- 14:53visual representation of what you're experiencing, and able to
- 14:59figure out what that visual representation really means and
- 15:02stuff. I love that aspect of doing it that way. Sometimes,
- 15:06people get more meaning out of visual things. It's good to have
- 15:11therapy and talk too. I think that's a good thing too. But
- 15:13having that visual representation definitely brings
- 15:16a different dynamic to the whole experience in terms of trying to
- 15:20overcome maybe cases of burnout, or stress, or anxiety, and all
- 15:25of those things. I love that aspect of that whole component
- 15:28on how it fits that together. Thank you. If you were to give
- 15:34your own personal advice about taking that first step, some
- 15:39people are so afraid to take the first step there, they feel like
- 15:42they'll overburden themselves by taking that first step toward
- 15:46trying to rectify a lot of these things, whether it be anxiety,
- 15:49stress, burnout and all those things. What would you give our
- 15:54audience, any advice to get them to understand about taking that
- 15:58first step in that way?
- 16:01Alexandra Reid:: Well, definitely one of the first
- 16:03steps that I would say is try to give yourself a different
- 16:06perspective. Maybe go to a cafe and just take some paper and a
- 16:10pen, go sit outside. Sometimes, just that change of scenery
- 16:14literally is something that will shake you up. It's not like
- 16:17you're at home and you're thinking, I should be folding
- 16:21laundry, I should be doing the dishes. It's not like you're in
- 16:25the office thinking, oh, I should be answering the next
- 16:28email. Sometimes, just literally that change of scene is enough
- 16:32to sort of reset your brain a little bit, and then you can
- 16:35start spending that time and self awareness of, okay, I just
- 16:39want to think about things in my life right now without all this
- 16:43external pressures being thrown at me. So I would say that's the
- 16:47simplest thing. Take yourself somewhere else, and spend time
- 16:50with yourself. Just let yourself think about your life, and try
- 16:54to get that comfortable with yourself again. A lot of times,
- 16:58as you said, we're autopilot dealing with all the things on
- 17:02our to-do list, and we forget to check in with ourselves. How am
- 17:06I actually doing? Am I doing what I want to be doing right
- 17:09now? If I'm not doing it, what needs to change? And yeah, I
- 17:13think that's the simplest thing. Take yourself on a date and go
- 17:17somewhere nice. And maybe bring a pen, some paper, and you can
- 17:20start almost just doodling these thoughts out for yourself.
- 17:24Dr. Jim Price:: I think that's good too. Because sometimes,
- 17:26that self care aspect intertwines with that. Even with
- 17:31myself, I count some kids and all that stuff. So by the time I
- 17:33get home, I need at least like 45 minutes of quiet time. No TV,
- 17:39no radio, no anything. And for me, that's my cool down time
- 17:43where I'm able to just relax and get things back in order. Then
- 17:48once the time is up, then I'm able to, or I'm ready to get
- 17:51back in. My mom used to live with me, she's a likes to talk.
- 17:55So she would be home. I get home, and as soon as I cracked
- 17:58the door and almost put my foot in, she was ready telling me
- 18:01everything that happened when she got up to get breakfast,
- 18:03first meal, she ate for breakfast, everything like that.
- 18:06So I said, you got to give me at least half an hour, give me 30
- 18:10minutes, and we worked it out and everything like that. But I
- 18:12think that is so important to be able to do those things. And
- 18:15getting out in nature too. Nature has a way of rejuvenating
- 18:19people in a way when you put yourself in another environment.
- 18:22So I think those are great points and valuable points that
- 18:26our audience can definitely utilize in terms of taking that
- 18:29first step. How can our audience be able to connect with your
- 18:35service and connect with you in that way?
- 18:39Alexandra Reid:: Yeah. Easiest thing? Internet. My website is
- 18:42called mindartwellness.com. As I mentioned, that taster little
- 18:48challenge is there to do the five day creative reset. Also,
- 18:51there are a series of blogs that I've written with different
- 18:54creative exercises. That if you're more of a reading and
- 18:57like the slow process, that's a nice way of doing it too. I also
- 19:01have links to all the other podcasts that I've been on, and
- 19:05so you can get different flavors of things that I've talked about
- 19:08before as well. So there's a lot of resources on my website at
- 19:12mindartwellness.com.
- 19:15Dr. Jim Price:: Excellent, excellent. I know our audience
- 19:17definitely got some valuable gems in terms of not just, when
- 19:21you think about therapy, when you think about the holistic
- 19:25view, the holistic perspective with visual representation too,
- 19:28to be able to really dive into issues, concerns, whether it be
- 19:32stress, anxiety, whatever it might be, burnout, things of
- 19:36that nature, the things that can really help gravitate you toward
- 19:40a higher level, not just understanding yourself, but
- 19:43working through those issues, concerns and stuff like that.
- 19:47This has definitely been a fabulous discussion, Lexi. And
- 19:50I'm so happy that we got a chance to connect and have you
- 19:54on the show. I always like to say, motivation is key. Growth
- 19:58happens all the time when you put in the action, actionable
- 20:01steps, and stuff like that. And this is a perfect example of
- 20:05that action, taking action, and utilizing actionable steps
- 20:09toward recovery and healing, internal healing, whether it be
- 20:13trauma, whatever. So we always continue on that journey. Life
- 20:16never stops growing, the development, and you're always
- 20:20able to learn as as long as you're alive and stuff like
- 20:23that. So continue to be motivated. Continue to want to
- 20:24Thank you for joining me on this episode of The Purpose in
- 20:27grow and nurture your own self personally. And that will, in a
- 20:31sense, impact others around you too in a positive way. So once
- 20:34again, this is The Purpose and Progress Podcast Show. I'm your
- 20:38host, Dr. Jim Price. And like I always say, stay blessed, and
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