Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / Calmer School Mornings Start the Night Before [a Listener Q&A]
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- 0:05Speaker 1: It seems like there's something about mornings that our children
- 0:08Speaker 1: just hate. They want to get up. They want to
- 0:11Speaker 1: take the morning at their own pace. They don't want
- 0:13Speaker 1: to be rushed and they don't want to be told
- 0:15Speaker 1: what to do. Kind of sounds a little bit like
- 0:19Speaker 1: us as grownups. It's just that we've gotten used to
- 0:21Speaker 1: the fact that that's how it's going to be. Today,
- 0:24Speaker 1: it's a tricky question. We're answering it for somebody who
- 0:27Speaker 1: is desperate for some guidance. Her name is Emma. She's
- 0:30Speaker 1: got two young daughters. and they don't like mornings. How
- 0:33Speaker 1: do we make mornings work? That is coming up right
- 0:37Speaker 1: after this. Hello, welcome to the Happy Families podcast, Real
- 0:42Speaker 1: Parenting Solutions. Every single day, we are Justin and Kylie Coulson.
- 0:46Speaker 1: We can't wait to tell you about the 50-kilometer walk
- 0:49Speaker 1: on Saturday. Just gone. Lift the load. Still taking donations.
- 0:54Speaker 1: By the way, you can jump onto lifttheload.org.au slash 50
- 0:57Speaker 1: for 50, raising money for the Top Blokes Foundation so
- 1:00Speaker 1: that they can do their, I'm going to call it
- 1:03Speaker 1: life-saving work for at-risk young men. But today, we're going
- 1:06Speaker 1: to talk about a tricky question. The Lift the Load
- 1:08Speaker 1: conversation will happen on Friday with our I'll Do Better Tomorrow.
- 1:11Speaker 1: In the meantime, though, a tricky question from Emma, who
- 1:15Speaker 1: has a couple of kids that are driving her a
- 1:18Speaker 1: little bit bonkers. Here's the question.
- 1:21Speaker 2: Hi, Justin. My name is Emma. We have two little
- 1:24Speaker 2: girls and some mornings are really hard. We only want
- 1:29Speaker 2: them to go to the bathroom, put their school clothes on,
- 1:33Speaker 2: brush their hair and have their breakfast. It's the same
- 1:36Speaker 2: routine every single morning, but some days we get grunting
- 1:41Speaker 2: and high levels of dysregulation. What can we do to
- 1:45Speaker 2: set ourselves up for a successful and calm morning so
- 1:48Speaker 2: mum can go to work not in tears and the
- 1:52Speaker 2: children can go to school feeling like they've achieved success?
- 1:56Speaker 3: Have we been there? Yeah.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Going to work in tears feeling like a failure as
- 2:01Speaker 1: a mom is the worst. And mornings, there's just something
- 2:05Speaker 1: about mornings. The kids wake up and they're like, yeah, no,
- 2:07Speaker 1: just I don't think I'm going to do it today.
- 2:08Speaker 1: I think I'm over it. I don't care.
- 2:11Speaker 3: But I think part of that is because so much
- 2:13Speaker 3: of our lives feel rushed.
- 2:15Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:15Speaker 3: We don't actually ever get down times. And our kids
- 2:19Speaker 3: feel it more so than anyone.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Well, also, I just kind of feel like we all
- 2:24Speaker 1: have those mornings, but sometimes our expectations around mornings are
- 2:26Speaker 1: just unfair. But it's the reality, right? That's the world
- 2:29Speaker 1: we live in. So I've written about this extensively. We've
- 2:32Speaker 1: talked about it on the podcast a couple of times
- 2:34Speaker 1: as well. But it's one of those perennial problems. And
- 2:37Speaker 1: even if you know the stuff, it's worth the reminder.
- 2:39Speaker 1: So let's step through what I think are the five
- 2:42Speaker 1: most important things that every parent needs to know when
- 2:44Speaker 1: it comes to making mornings magical. With two little girls.
- 2:48Speaker 1: We've done it with six little girls. With two little
- 2:51Speaker 1: girls who are dysregulated and emotional and not wanting to.
- 2:55Speaker 1: It's such a simple list, isn't it? Go to the bathroom.
- 2:58Speaker 1: Brush your hair. Eat some food. Put your uniform on.
- 3:01Speaker 1: That's it. Or brush your teeth. It would be nice
- 3:03Speaker 1: if you brushed your teeth before you go to school.
- 3:05Speaker 1: So simple. And yet they can't do it. drives us
- 3:08Speaker 1: crazy so what's the number one on your list first
- 3:11Speaker 1: thing your morning begins.
- 3:12Speaker 3: The night before the night before so this is.
- 3:15Speaker 1: One that i've always been big on and you've always
- 3:16Speaker 1: struggled with let's let's be honest like if we if
- 3:18Speaker 1: we just open up the curtain a little bit uh
- 3:20Speaker 1: and yet when we've done it what a difference it
- 3:22Speaker 1: makes early dinner get the bags ready get the sports
- 3:25Speaker 1: uniform on the library book or whatever they need make
- 3:27Speaker 1: sure that everything's ready for tomorrow because otherwise tomorrow morning.
- 3:30Speaker 3: So you're pointing the finger at me and saying i'm
- 3:32Speaker 3: the one who struggles with.
- 3:33Speaker 1: It probably unfair because i'm rarely here.
- 3:37Speaker 3: Who's done everything all day and gets to that point
- 3:40Speaker 3: at the end of the day and has got nothing left?
- 3:42Speaker 2: Well, you know what?
- 3:43Speaker 1: I've done a lot. Anyway, let's not litigate that one
- 3:47Speaker 1: right now. The main thing is when you wake up
- 3:51Speaker 1: at 7 o'clock the next morning or the kids get
- 3:52Speaker 1: up at 7 o'clock or 7.15 or whatever it is,
- 3:55Speaker 1: and then they're like, I.
- 3:56Speaker 3: Can't find my shoes.
- 3:57Speaker 1: I can't find my bench box. I can't find my jumper,
- 3:59Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And you're kind of like, I
- 4:01Speaker 1: don't have time for this now. And there's lots of
- 4:03Speaker 1: emotion because you're feeling a bit stressed. It just does not.
- 4:06Speaker 1: bode well for a good morning. So prep the night before,
- 4:10Speaker 1: just before stories, before cuddles, before bedtime. Grab the school
- 4:14Speaker 1: uniform out. Grab the socks. Grab the shoes. Grab the
- 4:16Speaker 1: sports uniform. Grab the library bag. Grab the library book.
- 4:19Speaker 1: Make sure you know where the lunchbox is. Throw out
- 4:21Speaker 1: today's lunch that wasn't eaten and clean it out so
- 4:23Speaker 1: it's ready to go for tomorrow's lunch that won't be eaten.
- 4:26Speaker 1: The more you can do tonight, the less you have
- 4:30Speaker 1: to do tomorrow morning.
- 4:31Speaker 3: So it's really about taking... as much friction out of
- 4:35Speaker 3: the troublesome moments that you can, right? So our daughter
- 4:39Speaker 3: is 12 and she has a very early morning surf lesson.
- 4:44Speaker 3: So she loves doing surfing.
- 4:46Speaker 1: Friday morning surfing at 6am.
- 4:48Speaker 3: But it's a big deal to get up that early.
- 4:51Speaker 1: 5.45 at the beach for six in the water.
- 4:53Speaker 3: And when I get up, get her up and I
- 4:55Speaker 3: ask her to go get her swimmers and get her
- 4:57Speaker 3: towel and all of those kinds of things, it's hard.
- 5:00Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 5:01Speaker 3: And trying to get her to get some food into
- 5:02Speaker 3: her before she leaves.
- 5:03Speaker 2: Impossible.
- 5:04Speaker 3: It just doesn't work. So we just took away everything
- 5:07Speaker 3: that was unnecessary and we made everything as easy as possible.
- 5:12Speaker 3: So I tell her before she goes to bed the
- 5:14Speaker 3: night before to get her swimmers and have them right
- 5:17Speaker 3: beside her bed. And she does that. And in the morning,
- 5:21Speaker 3: the towel is at her bedroom door. She puts on
- 5:24Speaker 3: her swimmers. She picks up her towel and she walks
- 5:27Speaker 3: straight to the car.
- 5:28Speaker 1: And that's it.
- 5:29Speaker 3: Meantime, I get her an up and go because she
- 5:31Speaker 3: can't have too much before she does it anyway. So
- 5:33Speaker 3: I get her an up and go so she can
- 5:35Speaker 3: drink that on the way.
- 5:35Speaker 1: Hashtag not sponsored.
- 5:37Speaker 3: And she goes and she has a ball. Yeah. But
- 5:41Speaker 3: as soon as you add extra stuff to the list
- 5:43Speaker 3: that she can't compute, she can't think beyond.
- 5:47Speaker 1: It's only two things. Put your swimmers on and grab
- 5:49Speaker 1: your towel.
- 5:50Speaker 2: But at 5.45?
- 5:50Speaker 1: It feels like a lot. It's 5.30.
- 5:55Speaker 3: That's a lot.
- 5:55Speaker 1: So your morning begins the night before. After the break,
- 5:58Speaker 1: I'm going to run through the four other elements of
- 6:01Speaker 1: making your mornings magic. Stay with us. This is the
- 6:11Speaker 1: Happy Families Podcast. Element number two for making your morning
- 6:13Speaker 1: magic is as follows. You, as a parent, make sure
- 6:18Speaker 1: that you wake up maybe 10 or 15 minutes earlier
- 6:20Speaker 1: than you need to and make sure that you are
- 6:23Speaker 1: regulated and ready.
- 6:25Speaker 3: So this is tricky because as a parent, you've got
- 6:28Speaker 3: your own list of things to do and you need
- 6:31Speaker 3: your little people to be independent. But more times than not,
- 6:35Speaker 3: especially when they're little, little people, they actually need us
- 6:39Speaker 3: to be involved.
- 6:40Speaker 1: Yep.
- 6:40Speaker 3: And so we have to be in a position where
- 6:43Speaker 3: our stuff's done so that we can be hands-on.
- 6:47Speaker 1: Also worth highlighting, the morning begins the night before for
- 6:50Speaker 1: the kids, but the more you can do for yourself
- 6:51Speaker 1: the night before, the better as well. Work out what
- 6:53Speaker 1: you're going to be wearing. If you need to have
- 6:55Speaker 1: a packed lunch, get it packed the night before. The
- 6:57Speaker 1: more you can do, the easier your morning will be,
- 7:00Speaker 1: the less pressure. I feel like John Farnham, take the
- 7:01Speaker 1: pressure down, right? Like what can we do to make
- 7:03Speaker 1: mornings easier? That's all it comes down to. And the
- 7:07Speaker 1: more you do the night before, the better.
- 7:08Speaker 3: Maybe the night before, like, Because like I said, half
- 7:11Speaker 3: the reason I struggled with it was I was exhausted
- 7:13Speaker 3: by the end of the day.
- 7:14Speaker 2: Right.
- 7:15Speaker 3: After having made all the decisions and everything, and then
- 7:18Speaker 3: the idea that I've got to now prep tomorrow, it
- 7:20Speaker 3: just was a lot. But I think that as a mum,
- 7:25Speaker 3: if you make sure that all your stuff's done the
- 7:27Speaker 3: night before, so you're just getting up, getting dressed, and
- 7:30Speaker 3: then you're 100% available for the kids, the morning is
- 7:33Speaker 3: going to go better. Totally. What's number four?
- 7:35Speaker 1: So the fourth one is to have a look at
- 7:38Speaker 1: the amount of, correction and direction you're giving versus how
- 7:41Speaker 1: much connection is in the relationship. There's just so much
- 7:45Speaker 1: command and control in the mornings and the kids hate that.
- 7:47Speaker 1: They resent that. They push back against it. It just
- 7:48Speaker 1: makes life really hard. So I would actually be saying,
- 7:53Speaker 1: don't tell them what to do. Just ask how you
- 7:55Speaker 1: can support. Hey, what's next on your list? If they
- 7:57Speaker 1: don't have a list, make a list. Get them to
- 7:58Speaker 1: make the list with you. They can actually tell you
- 8:00Speaker 1: what needs to be on the list. They can find
- 8:01Speaker 1: things to cut out and put onto a piece of paper.
- 8:04Speaker 1: They can put together a checkbox, whatever it is. And
- 8:06Speaker 1: then when you see them stalling, doing the wrong thing,
- 8:08Speaker 1: playing with the dog, beating each other up, whatever they're
- 8:10Speaker 1: doing that's wrong, you say, hey, guys, what's next on
- 8:12Speaker 1: your list? Where are you up to? And when they
- 8:14Speaker 1: tell you, you say, ah, do you need any help
- 8:15Speaker 1: with that? So you're not telling them what to do. Instead,
- 8:19Speaker 1: you're offering support. Connection's about feeling seen, heard, valued, and accepted, right?
- 8:24Speaker 1: That's the definition of connection. Correction and direction is telling
- 8:28Speaker 1: the kids what to do and when to do it
- 8:29Speaker 1: and how to do it and why haven't you done
- 8:30Speaker 1: it already. And for goodness sakes, not like that, like this.
- 8:33Speaker 1: So Kids struggle with that, but they really like it
- 8:37Speaker 1: when the relationship feels good. So that would be my
- 8:39Speaker 1: fourth thing.
- 8:40Speaker 3: I found a little video of Miss Indy, our grandbaby,
- 8:43Speaker 3: the other day. And she wouldn't eat her breakfast. But
- 8:49Speaker 3: as soon as our daughter sat down, her mum sat
- 8:51Speaker 3: down with her to eat her breakfast, all of a sudden,
- 8:54Speaker 3: mum's breakfast looked amazing.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Right? Welcome to raising a three-year-old.
- 8:59Speaker 3: Yeah, but the point is that often we ask our
- 9:02Speaker 3: kids to do these things, but when we actually sit
- 9:04Speaker 3: with them, they're actually really happy to do them, whether
- 9:07Speaker 3: it be eating our breakfast. It is. It's about connection.
- 9:10Speaker 1: I wrote about that at length in The Parenting Revolution
- 9:13Speaker 1: where I talk about how I'm doing the gardening and
- 9:15Speaker 1: I ask the kids to come and help me and
- 9:16Speaker 1: they're really happy to help. But if I send them
- 9:18Speaker 1: out to do the gardening on their own, the fighting
- 9:21Speaker 1: and the whinging and the whining is incessant. So less
- 9:25Speaker 1: correction and direction, more connection and offers of support, really important.
- 9:30Speaker 3: What's your fifth one?
- 9:31Speaker 1: I alluded to this earlier when I said put the
- 9:33Speaker 1: list together. You can't do something well if you don't
- 9:37Speaker 1: understand the structure. You can't be competent unless you understand
- 9:40Speaker 1: the structure. So I'd be sitting down with the kids
- 9:42Speaker 1: on the weekend and saying, hey, have you noticed that
- 9:44Speaker 1: we seem to be fighting a lot in the mornings?
- 9:47Speaker 1: What does a morning need to look like? What do
- 9:48Speaker 1: we need to do? How can we work together on this?
- 9:50Speaker 1: Build the structure, put together the list, the checkboxes, whatever
- 9:54Speaker 1: it is that you need. Because when the kids understand
- 9:58Speaker 1: what they need to do and how to do it,
- 10:00Speaker 1: they become competent. And when they become competent, then you
- 10:03Speaker 1: usually don't have nearly as many challenges.
- 10:06Speaker 3: Well, your list is pretty boring.
- 10:08Speaker 1: Oh, I think it's also really practical, useful and effective.
- 10:12Speaker 1: Have you got anything that you would add to my list?
- 10:13Speaker 3: Yes.
- 10:14Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
- 10:14Speaker 3: Make it fun. Make it fun. In our house, a
- 10:19Speaker 3: couple of things that made such a difference. We had
- 10:22Speaker 3: a couple of theme songs that the kids, when they
- 10:25Speaker 3: heard that particular song, they knew that that was transition
- 10:28Speaker 3: mode to be somewhere.
- 10:30Speaker 1: I forgot that we used to do that. Yeah, there
- 10:32Speaker 1: was a song at like 7 o'clock which sort of
- 10:34Speaker 1: brought the family together so that we could get our
- 10:35Speaker 1: day started. And then there was another song a little
- 10:38Speaker 1: bit later that sort of said, hey, we're supposed to
- 10:40Speaker 1: be walking out the door in a minute or something
- 10:42Speaker 1: like that.
- 10:43Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just– or– We're going to play three songs,
- 10:47Speaker 3: three fun, energetic songs, and we've got to try and
- 10:49Speaker 3: get X, Y, and Z done before the end of
- 10:51Speaker 3: those three songs. Our kids need to have more fun,
- 10:55Speaker 3: and they need to know that we know how to
- 10:57Speaker 3: have fun. It's going to start our day a whole
- 11:01Speaker 3: heap better.
- 11:01Speaker 1: Emma and every struggling parent, hopefully this is helpful. The
- 11:04Speaker 1: other good news is it's springtime, at least it is
- 11:06Speaker 1: in Australia. So hopefully kids are waking up a little
- 11:09Speaker 1: bit more energized, a little bit more ready and raring
- 11:12Speaker 1: to go, a little bit less cold. in the air.
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