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Training Secrets of Winter Olympians | MindSets Podcast | Episode 78 · The MindSets Podcast

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Hello and welcome back to another episode of the Mindsets
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podcast. Charles, how we doing?
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What a way to start the week. That's true.
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They don't know that. What a way to start the middle
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of your week. Yeah, you guys.
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But for us, I always forget that Freshest Monday.
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Yeah, Episode 78 we did the quarter, the 3/4 of century what
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feels like yesterday. I know yeah, yeah.
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And now, with three episodes down, the.
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Line. I know we're flying through them
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this. Weekly episode thing is a great
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way to be productive. It is, yeah, for sure.
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We're going to kick off this episode same way we kick off
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every episode. 2 minute news. And because of the amount of
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sporting events going on, which we did foresee at the beginning
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of the year, we've got a lot to get through.
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Shall I start us off Do? You want me to set the time up?
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Yeah. All right.
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OK, I can do it really fast, 3 21 I'll be good.
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Winter Olympics so far, we have managed to retrieve three medals
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as Team GB, all of them being gold.
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And so the first medal that we got with is Matt Weston in the
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men's skeleton. He broke the track record the
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first run and then he did it again on the second run and
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secured and then secured himself the gold medal there.
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And we then also had a reappearance of Matt running
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with the girl that I've been putting forward, which is gosh,
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Gabby Stoker. They actually had gold in the
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mixed combined event did really well.
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That's another one. And then we also got mixed
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snowball cross, first snowboard gold medal we've ever had and
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that was fantastic. That was really good one to
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watch. We put it back in the last turn.
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So that is the news from Team GB in the Winter Olympics.
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The next thing that's come out today is the Canada double
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touching rule breaking. If you haven't seen it, Canada
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have been accused of touching the stone with their fingers,
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which is double touching, which you're allowed to do before it
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crosses the line. This is in curling, by the way.
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I hadn't said sorry, but they're actually not allowed to touch
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the physical part of the stone. You're allowed to touch the
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handle as much as you want before the line.
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But they've been touching the stone and they've been swearing
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matches between teams saying I don't FN do this like and
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they're like, I'm going to show you a video after me.
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You've been doing it your whole career.
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Why would you try and when there's so many cameras that
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anyway it's too too many disease carry on.
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So is that all of you you've? Got all of me from the winter.
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Olympics. So the biggest one for me, I'd
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like to report on is Keely Hodgkinson.
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Over the weekend she ran UK Indoor Championships in
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Birmingham. She smashed her own national
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record by nearly a second. I think she ran 156 three, which
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puts her like third all time quickest 800 meters.
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So at some point she's going to break the world record, which is
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unbelievable. Then we've had the start of the
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Six Nations. There's probably like 2 weeks to
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catch up on now, so big results. Italy beat Scotland in weak wine
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time, France beat Ireland pretty convincingly.
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England really beat Wales pretty badly.
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And then last weekend just gone, Scotland managed to beat England
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at the Calcutta Cup in Murrayfield, which was awesome
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for Scotland. Wales suffered again, a pretty
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sad loss to France and that's basically all I have to catch
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you up on. I think this year Italy could be
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a bogey team. They could do some messing
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around with what's been going on, yeah, but.
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Italy have been building for a while.
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Like I no longer look at Italy and go that's a rubbish rugby
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team I. Think it was a few episodes ago
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I said that Italy are really good in the Six Nations for just
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winning the wooden spoon every year.
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Yeah yeah, yeah, not anymore, not anymore.
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Wales are yeah yeah in favour. I wish you in a few rest years
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yeah. OK, so that's kind of the two
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main news. How?
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Close were we to go like these six, Yeah.
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Solid. Well, we're going to continue
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that theme of not being within the two minutes because there's
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actually loads of stuff going on at the moment and I want to dive
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into it a little bit more. I think you guys would
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appreciate some of this. So one of the first things is
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we've been mentioning how GB have been doing in the Olympics.
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Kirsty Muir has been a standout performer for us.
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She's very young. I think she's like early 20s
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snowboarder. She's been doing the slopestar,
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she's been doing the big air and gutting, absolutely gutting.
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I was mentioning to you before the podcast, but the slopestar's
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been really interesting because the sun's been having a massive
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effect on the speed that riders are able to get into the jumps.
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So in her competition, there was pretty much like a lockout top
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five. Like you knew you were going to
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come to top five you used to know where, and she wasn't in
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that. But a lot of them weren't
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adjusting their runs to the speed they were going to be able
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to generate off the jumps, which meant that when she came into
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her final run, she had a real chance.
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But like sticking something. So Kirsty landed a great run,
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arguably unfairly judged to be a little bit lower than she'd
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liked. She missed out on bronze by half
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a point, which is gutting. But I mean, for her first
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Olympics, incredible. And really interestingly, and
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this is a fun fact for you, Kirsty and the podcast were
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talking on TikTok about getting her on a couple of years ago
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because she had a pretty severe injury that she's been fighting
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back from. So first of all, well done to
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Kirsty for getting back to the Olympics and having that level
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of performance with the severity of her knee injury.
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And hopefully we might be able to get her down to London
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because she is. Got it.
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Get her down to London rather than Aberdeen and see if we can
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get her to explain how she trained for that.
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Yeah. So that's one thing.
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The next thing, let's look back at last episode.
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Big man Scotty James. Oh, yeah, we were.
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I was really hoping. Rooting for him.
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We were gonna. We were.
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Gonna see that gold in his hands.
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What happened while I was in between these episodes was I
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noticed that he ran a 98.75 point out of 100 by the way.
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So like basically perfect. And I was like, Oh my gosh, has
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he done that in the Olympics? But no, it was the world
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champion LAX last week where he basically put down this perfect
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run, which is exactly what you would want a week before your
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Olympics. And unfortunately, I guess in
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many ways he got silver, which is still crazy, but he Olympic.
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Curse. Yeah, he he ran a in his second.
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Sorry. In his first of the two runs he
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got 93.5 points. Still ridiculous, but he was
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bettered unfortunately by Yuto Tatsuka, who got 95.
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And then third place was Rosai Yamada, 92.
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And Yamada has always been, he's young, but he's been back and
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forth with Scotty quite a lot. So those three and also top five
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there was Scotty in second and then the other four in the top
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five, all from Japan really. That snowboarding was amazing,
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incredible and awesome. One of the gutting things for
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Scotty in that was the he did a much better run on his second
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run and on the very, very last landing lost his heel edge.
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And that was the difference between him and and
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realistically, that's probably his last Winter Olympics, which
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is gutting. And then the final thing I want
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to talk about from the Winter Olympics and as a nice move on
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from final Winter Olympics, Lindsey Vonn.
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Now, Lindsey Vonn has been causing a lot of drama in terms
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of discussion points and comment sections about what she did.
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So as a recap, and I'm sure, you know, this is like how we've
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discussed it. She was having a ridiculously
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good world champ season coming into this year.
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And bear in mind, she's in her 40s, you know, and we're seeing
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some rare athletes that are legends managing to keep their
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career going at that point. But she's had many, many
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injuries throughout her career, and she was finally on form for
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this Winter Olympics. Everyone's saying it's probably
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going to be her last because she's 42.
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Like when you're 46 doing the Winter Olympics, probably not
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going to be that great. But she came into this and the
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week before, she absolutely tore her ACL off the boat.
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It wasn't like a partial tear. It was a rupture.
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It was gone and her being her, she said.
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I don't care. I'm going to race and you're
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going to do it, Yeah. That's mental.
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Which is. Mental and a lot of people are
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like, oh, you shouldn't do that. But I understand it's her last
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Winter Olympics. Then what happened for a lot of
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people that switched off from her until the Winter Olympics
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was they switched on and saw her in the I think the second corner
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or the second turn, second gate of her downhill race.
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She hit a bump. She went over and broke her leg
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and it was on the same side as her knee and everyone's comments
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were well it looks like you do need an ACL to go skiing and she
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shouldn't have done it. She's a bad example to younger
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generations. I want to know what your
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thoughts are on that situation. I.
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Think just like in terms of her as an athlete, just in general,
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she's incredible. Like to be at her age, still
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competing at the highest level. And you say like going into the
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Winter Olympics at 46, there's probably sports in the winter
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and Olympics and the Summer Olympics that you can still
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compete at that age, you know, things that aren't as high
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impact. So that but downhill skiing, No,
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no, no, like even even at 42, it's like it is incredible that
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she's had the resilience and like longevity to then be able
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to put her in a position where she's had a good World Cup
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season and she's still going to go and compete at the the Winter
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Olympics. It's incredible.
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I think it's like, would the lack of ACL and the instability
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that that's causes in the knee have some sort of implication
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towards her not having the stability or the strength in
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that second corner which may have caused her to therefore not
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break her leg? Maybe, but it's hindsight isn't
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it? And also like people don't
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realize how much of the identity skiing is for her.
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That is her. She was going to compete I think
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either way unless she like literally couldn't walk herself
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to the start gate. So I would never, I would never
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encourage someone to compete with a torn ACL.
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But. Like you can't.
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Stop them if like if I was in that position and it was like my
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Winter Olympics, of course I'm going to go and try it.
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She knew that was probably a risk, but even if she had a
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healthy ACL, there's a risk that you break your leg anyway.
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So I think people are too quick to judge.
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And also it's like, why do you care?
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I'm. Completely.
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I'm not even remotely on the fence.
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I'm entirely on her side. Yeah.
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And not even like, yeah, from the standpoint of the fact that
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she is 42 competing and then 46, that's tough.
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If. I was given one shot at the
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Olympics the end of the week before.
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I'm doing like, there's no way you're taking the opportunity
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away from me. The other interesting parts that
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happened between her injury and the actual event was firstly she
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recognized from previous injuries with her Acls.
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Skiing isn't actually an ACL dominant sport, unlike something
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like basketball, American football.
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There's a lot of change of direction, like you are changing
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direction, but it's not like so sudden.
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There's a lot of load suddenly that you have to deal with
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through the joint, but it's not like a twisting motion so much.
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In an ideal world, obviously she then ruptured it.
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She then continued training and in the Winter Olympics, you
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don't just rock up on the day. You can actually run the course.
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You can do some of the testing, test parts of the course out.
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She was one of the quicker athletes in the lead up to that.
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She wasn't just like, oh, she's able to get down.
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No, she was everyone was like, I think she's still going to win.
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She's still favorite. The other thing is the actual
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course itself, that second gate, everyone was having trouble.
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A lot of people were crashing out there.
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It wasn't like, oh, her ACL was the reason.
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If you actually see them going around it, I don't know why it
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was put in because it is like it's so steep.
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It was so rutted and icy and everyone's just like just
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slipping down it unable to. And if you hit it wrong and I
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think she was an inch off, it was her hand clipped the gate
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and if she was an inch to the left of it, she'd have been
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fine. It's always, you know, it
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wasn't. Just.
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Her knee that put her in the position, it's just maybe her
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knee didn't give her the stability, but even that like
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she she could have not broken her leg and got up and gone
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again. Now there's so many ifs and buts
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where I absolutely I commend her for doing it.
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And I think that actually she's more of a, she is a good example
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to put in place that like competition.
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If you're going to compete and you want to be the best in the
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world at something, you've got to.
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You've got to. Put down like such a dominant
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female athlete, like she's she has had an incredible career.
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She's like sad. That's probably the way it ends
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for her. But no, no one likes to see
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success story, do they? It's like they love it when
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someone fails and like, yeah, she's like perverse in itself.
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But yeah, I think it's it is a real shame.
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But watching the downhill skiing is like when they have the
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speedometer in the top right hand corner.
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You're like, you're a psycho, Yeah.
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You are absolutely like, yeah, yeah, I've, I've had AGPS on
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when I was skiing before. I want to see how fast I could
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go. I hit just over 100 KS, which is
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really quick Yeah from my skis, which aren't designed, which
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weren't designed for that. They were flapping and vibrating
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and I was like 1 bump dump. Yeah yeah, yeah.
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But like really dumb. They're doing like in in places
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they're doing like 130 yeah, which is insane yeah And they're
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doing that and they just shoot off the edge and like they don't
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even look high off the ground and the thing will come up
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showing you all the time. It's like they were in the air
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for four seconds. 4 seconds is such a long time and like.
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There's no perception, is there, when you're watching TV or how
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steep the slopes know. I always, I always when you see
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like big mountain skiing and you're like, come on.
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Yeah, yeah. And it's like it's actually
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vertical. Do you always can't see it, I
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find. Really.
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Interesting. I don't know if if people listen
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to this would have been to like the Alps or some mountains in
13:18
summer. But if you go to a ski resort,
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you ski that and you go in summer and you see it without
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snow, you realise how it's like you can't walk.
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Up it. Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is, Mallard.
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Yeah. Anyway, we're going to go into
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Grind My Gears because Lindsay ground a lot of people's gears
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apparently. So I guess it's a bit of a life
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update. I managed to go to America for
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the first time last week, which meant I was exposed to a lot of
13:40
things that pissed me off just with the Americans alone, but
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I'll hold back. I'll start off by saying that
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Americans just say the wildest things randomly.
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And I thought growing up playing Grand Theft Auto or other games
13:51
where like, you know, where there's the PC that should
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playing a character, a non playable character will just say
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something really randomly in the middle of nowhere to no one is
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like a random statement that happens.
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And I can't believe it happened. I was I was filling a drink up
14:06
in a restaurant and someone behind me with no one else
14:09
around them also didn't look like they were talking to me,
14:11
which they just went, you know, that's what I don't get about
14:15
bank robbers. Just let them have the money.
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You can print more and then just carries on with their day and
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I'm like, what the hell is going on in this place?
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This place is a simulation and they just don't start.
14:27
They're so friendly. One guy found someone's chewing
14:29
gum packet on the floor outside the plane.
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If this happened in the UK, that stays there.
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That's where that lives now until someone puts it in the
14:37
bin. This guy picked it up, walked
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down the entire plane, checking with everybody in their
14:41
individual seats. Is this your gum packet?
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Have you lost some gum? Did he work for the airline?
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No. No.
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That's weird and. So he delayed everyone leaving
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on the plane because he wanted to get the chewing gum to
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whoever it was. If it was me at this point and I
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was in like the 20th row, I'm saying no.
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It's. Not mine.
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I can't. I can't be the person that has
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caused this. Yeah, Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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No Americans. He's most.
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That's yeah. I mean, that's mental.
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Yeah. I mean, you can't really believe
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it until you see it. Wild.
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My 1 is more close to home. OK, I don't know whether I
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respect it or I hate it. I'm kind of like caught between
15:19
two minds. So I was cycling home.
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It must have been Tuesday night, Monday night last week.
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Like bearing in mind I'm I'm finishing closing up the gym,
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whatever. It's probably like close to
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9:00. The weather we've had in the UK,
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it was raining and it was dark and it was cold and I was
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cycling her and I was like, this isn't particularly nice.
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I'm going over Tower Bridge, my route down South, over over the
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over the river. Someone's running across the
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bridge going for their run chest strap on.
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I can see the fact he's got a chest strap on because he's
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running topless topless at this. Time of year.
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So I was like. OK, it's raining.
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Maybe it's like, maybe it's not that cold.
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I looked, it was 3°, it was 3°. It was raining.
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He had his top off with his shirt tucked into his shorts,
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wearing gloves. That's the main character
16:12
syndrome, yeah. I was just like, I don't know if
16:16
I've actually seen that. I had to double take, but yeah,
16:18
definitely running topless across Tower Bridge.
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That's not. OK.
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Yeah, that's. Not OK, isn't it?
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I'm I'm also like even running topless in summer around
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Batchette. Snowmark is a little bit like
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running across tower. Bridge, the tourism that goes on
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there, like you just wouldn't go there unless you want to be seen
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well. Exactly.
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I guess you could. I always avoid it like no matter
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what time of day it is. But like in the evening it is
16:38
quieter and it was raining so it was quieter.
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But why is that on your run route?
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So London. You're telling me that London
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has been played each end of London from Battersea to Tower
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Bridge? There's bozos.
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Oh yeah, there's a running. There's a load of bozos
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everywhere. Next one I've got is I I feel
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like we mentioned this almost a year ago but I have seen more
16:57
people strength training in carbon plated choose and like
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the the amount of wobbling is. Epidemic.
17:03
Crazy. What were they doing?
17:06
Some standing shoulder press dumbbells and some planks and
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then some some like dumbbell press on the on the bench.
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All right. It's not a very good, it's like
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them. On a dumbbell press that is
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fine, but. It's not as terrible as they
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were like going for squatting or Oh yeah it.
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Was my yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my God.
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Clean and jerky. I'm I'm sure I've seen that.
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Another another wild one. Have you got any any more?
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I've got one more that I'll mention.
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I'm. Leaving.
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I'm leaving my mine as it is. Is it good?
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Enough for me, I need to mention this one and I I'm going to show
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you a video which will I will overlay here.
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So if you're if you're watching this on YouTube, you can enjoy
17:45
whatever I'm trying to explain here.
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I'm annoyed that any sport can be a sport now in the like.
17:53
You can just make something up and it's a sport.
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I thought it was great when I was seeing, like, the annual
17:59
world champs of the American football that gets thrown onto a
18:03
roof with the number of bounces and gets caught and gets
18:05
televised every year. I think that's a funny joke.
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I think the beer miles Great. Yeah.
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OK. What the people on YouTube will
18:11
be watching right now is wrestling meet basketball and I
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genuinely do not understand. I haven't bothered to go and
18:22
look at the rules because I'm I'm going to continue watching
18:24
reels until I understand what's going on and I can be an expert.
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But all I'm seeing is a basketball court with the hoot
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lowered so anyone can dunk. The court itself is foam.
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Yeah, and like like UFC style Octagon.
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Flooring, but there's no, there's no like it's not
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enclosed at all. OK, But like people are playing
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basketball, they're not bouncing the ball very much.
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So I think travelling's just like accepted.
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And then all of a sudden someone takes the T-shirt off and just
18:52
like throws someone else over their shoulder and it, there's
18:55
just like no consistency to it. Other times and when everyone's
18:59
got their T-shirt on, people will like try and engage in a
19:00
bit of wrestling and then the person would all just shrug them
19:02
off and go and dunk. And I can't work it out.
19:05
Seems of how many? I think it's it's normal
19:08
basketball teams. Yeah, it's it's like it's not
19:10
normal basketball teams playing, but.
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Yeah, I was going to say. It's not like Ron James.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't even remember what it's
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called. I've written wrestle.
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Dunk league, I mean. It sounds cool.
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Yeah, it is in my head, but it's annoying that like that can just
19:24
exist to that scan as well when. There's have you seen when
19:28
people like meet up around like April time and they'll play
19:32
their own version of the Masters and they'll go like crazy and
19:35
they'll they'll have a green jacket.
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It's just like to the whole thing.
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Also so for that whole backyard. Cricket have you seen that
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incredible. So yeah, yeah, yeah, the level
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to that is and the broadcast and the the yeah, these unbelievable
19:47
if. The ability to like live stream
19:49
and stuff like that was so easy on phones back when I was a kid.
19:52
We'd 100% have done it because I remember having a cricket strip
19:55
in the back of one of my friend's gardens and we rolled
19:57
every day with a wheelie bin and like, we played on that.
20:00
So, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was.
20:01
Sick. Yeah, yeah.
20:03
Anyway, have you got any more I? Think that's that's sparked
20:06
something in me. I just remembered on on ITV now
20:09
new this year. Obviously you've always had
20:12
adverts on ITV watching sport before it started.
20:15
Whatever they've now got in game advertisement where they split
20:19
screen at like one time per half.
20:22
I don't know if you saw it, but the rugby, when it's like a A
20:24
scrum and they're resetting the scrum and it's a bit slower, it
20:28
like half the screen comes off, they start so.
20:31
American. It's so.
20:32
American, isn't it? Yeah, I just like bring back
20:34
BBCI. Know BBCBC just ads breaks in?
20:38
Do they sometimes with their own shows?
20:40
I don't. Oh yeah, fuck yeah.
20:41
I'm watching the show we're going to watch.
20:43
I care about that one. Yeah, well, we're going to,
20:46
we're going to stick on to a similar theme to last episode.
20:48
And with what's going on in the world at the moment, I think
20:51
with the success that we're having in the Winter Olympics,
20:54
we should continue talking about the training because a lot of
20:57
Winter Olympians, specifically in the UK, don't start that
21:01
sport young. They discover the sport.
21:04
And in the example of our our new hero within skeleton, Matt
21:10
wasn't always in skeleton. He was, he went through like a
21:15
pathway, like a discovery thing. So then he did some training
21:18
with the military and all that, but then he got into skeleton.
21:20
He's been doing it for a very long time.
21:22
He's won world championship, World World Cups, that kind of
21:25
thing. But yeah, he's obviously in
21:27
great form this year, breaking the track record every time.
21:29
And I forgot to mention when he did the the mixed track and it
21:33
was his turn after Gabby had gone, he broke the track record,
21:37
his own track record again. So he just like that track is
21:40
his home. He owns it.
21:42
But what we were going to talk through is how you train to be a
21:46
skeleton athlete and then also versus another sport that we're
21:51
actually pretty good at, which is curling, which I don't think
21:54
gets enough credit. And do you know what?
21:56
You can sit down and watch curling and be like, this is the
22:00
deadest sport, yeah, 5 minutes later or you can get really into
22:04
it. Yeah.
22:04
Yeah. So I thought we talked about it
22:06
a little bit. Now, in terms of breaking down
22:08
skeleton for people that don't understand, a lot of people will
22:11
understand it. As you run, you throw yourself
22:12
on this tray and then you bump your way down to the end.
22:14
Yeah. It's actually not far off, man.
22:16
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the first thing that's
22:17
really, really important is that there is a 30 meter Sprint
22:20
distance where you are just hell for leather, sprinting as fast
22:24
as you can with one hand on the tray.
22:25
And then, yeah, you're now running as fast as you can and
22:28
you have to load yourself from sprinting to horizontally,
22:31
landing perfectly on this thing which has been shaped your body.
22:34
Yeah. Then from that point onwards,
22:36
you're generating speed purely by gravity helping you down, and
22:40
you're trying not to hit the sides that slow you down, and
22:42
you're doing it by slight adjustments in your shoulder
22:44
positioning. Slight adjustments.
22:46
And you. Yeah, yeah.
22:47
But what I. Didn't realize was the G forces
22:49
are so high you're talking about 5 GS It's.
22:51
Like pulling your face onto the eyes.
22:53
Right, your face. Is actually on the eyes for most
22:55
of them. I saw an.
22:56
Interview with Matt and he was saying that there's you often
22:59
hear a noise over the microphone and he's like, yeah, that's my
23:02
face on the ice. Oh, really?
23:05
That's like a like a scraping sound when they run the
23:08
microphones on the chords. So I.
23:10
Don't know. And this would be a really
23:12
interesting thing to ask is like if their face is in the ice, can
23:16
they actually like see up very well?
23:18
Because you see a lot of the athletes in a lot of sports
23:22
where there's some sort of track or thing that they're following.
23:23
Would you like pre visualization their eyes?
23:26
Yeah, they do that. Like just know that this turn is
23:29
coming. So I I need to turn this much or
23:31
can they like I'm? Sure, that's like.
23:33
Gravity use their eyes to like see just a bit their eyes.
23:35
Are being pulled closed. Yeah.
23:37
I, I mean, it's, it's fascinating.
23:38
I'm sure there's like, we'll discuss it a little bit more,
23:41
but like it's just like. A.
23:44
Crazy mixture of I think you obviously have to be like
23:50
physically very strong and powerful and you have to have
23:52
good speed to get this train moving.
23:55
But then it's just like how tapped.
23:57
To you like how? How?
23:59
But but then again, like you have there's no choice because
24:03
there's no break. No, that was something else.
24:05
There's no break. No, because I think it was the
24:08
same interview. They're like, well, how'd you
24:10
stop? And that you basically just like
24:11
cobra position on the. On the tray to.
24:14
Create more certain in your feet in which is like.
24:18
And you're obviously not going to do that on a turn, no.
24:21
So it's like. Once you're going, you're going
24:23
'cause you're doing. I think the number that I've got
24:26
is that they're they're doing up to 100 and 140 yeah, kmh when
24:31
we. Were talking about the skiers
24:32
doing like 1/21/30 or you going over 100 kilons an hour on sheet
24:37
ice where you're that close? Yeah, and.
24:39
Remember, remember how fast everything feels when you are
24:40
low down as well. So like when you're in a sports
24:42
guy, you'd be doing the same speed as what you're doing in a
24:44
form you're. Like hold on on on size.
24:46
Yeah. So yeah, it's incredible.
24:48
I from. Understanding their training,
24:51
their training is actually very different to what we were saying
24:54
with Scotty because there's a lot of stuff that we discussed
24:58
with his rotation, like being able to put explosive power out.
25:02
They do have an explosive power part of their training because
25:05
they have to train more like sprinters because as we've said,
25:08
most of the time benefit they get is in that first 30 meters.
25:12
The 0.05 second difference is huge because that change in
25:18
speed just across the whole run, if they can keep a theme, just
25:22
continues to grow the gap, which is one of the reasons that
25:25
Matt's so good is his off the line speed is incredible.
25:29
So if we then start looking at like Sprint periodization, which
25:33
is included in their training and then like strength side of
25:35
things in the off season particularly, that's what
25:37
they're going to be doing more of because we're fortunate that
25:40
we have good travel around the world.
25:42
And we said this last episode where you can travel to cold
25:45
areas, but depending on your sliding time, sliding, as it's
25:50
called crazy expensive. So like spending a day there
25:56
versus doing loads of training and like just sort of practicing
25:58
in another way possible for the skills is way more beneficial to
26:02
your pocket when you're not a very well funded sport,
26:05
especially in the UK to do more stuff and more work in the gym.
26:08
So in terms of what a week might look like, again, have put
26:12
together like a loose plan, but it's still going to be training
26:16
twice a day. If you're a pro athlete, it's
26:18
probably pretty normal. First thing, though, is going to
26:21
be more of your like acceleration work.
26:23
So some short Sprint stuff kind of going through the mobility.
26:26
The A skips, the B skips, C skips everything going through
26:30
the whole alphabet. But like doing your body
26:32
control, which again, in sprinting, being able to control
26:36
your lower limbs very precisely when you're doing like a really
26:40
short burst of acceleration is like super important.
26:43
The other thing that's interesting is in their
26:46
training, you're not necessarily sprinting in a normal position
26:49
because unlike a normal sprinter where you rise, you're obviously
26:52
having to stay low. So what I found was on a
26:56
Norwegian website. Here we go.
26:57
If you're interested in getting in skeleton, they've given you a
27:00
good strength and mobility program to swallow.
27:03
So for this to begin with, they've got 3 levels.
27:06
The first level I'll read these out back extension on a like a
27:10
this. Is just like bog standards. 3
27:13
bog standards. So squat forward lunges, jumping
27:17
lunges, rotational strength are like a pal.
27:18
Off press, short speed skating, jumps from side to side, side
27:22
plank, sideline, groin strength like Copenhagen kind of thing.
27:25
And Nordic hamstring curls I think.
27:27
Honestly, based off the work we did with was a Scotty and the
27:34
the I could be a a Winter Olympic sports specific S&C
27:38
check coach I. Think you should?
27:40
I think I would love that if you were.
27:42
Then you go up a level to these next 8 exercises.
27:45
You got the wiper where you're lying on the floor with your
27:47
legs going side to side. You got single leg squats.
27:51
You then got 4 lunges again, more power press Copenhagen
27:54
adductors, single leg body tilts which.
27:58
Looks like an aeroplane it looks.
27:59
Like a single leg RDL? Yeah, in a way long speed
28:02
skating jump. Not entirely sure if I'm
28:04
directly honest with you. What the differences between
28:06
short and long as a as an exercise and then nor do they go
28:10
out on a. Guess and say 1's further than
28:12
the other. Maybe that's a fair guess.
28:15
That's why you would be a great SSE coach.
28:17
Just jump a bit further the next one.
28:20
We've got more balance being brought in.
28:22
So for for Level 3, which is the top level is where they've got
28:25
like your favorite thing, the Bosu ball flipped upside down.
28:28
So you've got, see? That's where it's applicable
28:31
specific, but they don't. Why do they have that pure gym
28:34
down the road for all of the for Matt, obviously sorry and great.
28:38
How about you? Yeah, everyone who's now going
28:39
to get exactly skeleton. Single leg squats, squat
28:43
challenge. I was very about his ring
28:45
coordination in. So you've got like tennis balls
28:46
and you're on the bat, you're on the both who ball balance.
28:49
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Single leg squats, Copenhagen's
28:52
the Diver, which looks crazy. It's like an Rd. elbow with your
28:57
hands out in front on a single leg and then more hands and
28:59
girls. And apparently once you've got
29:00
to a level of being able to do these exercises, you're a good
29:03
level to start considering actually transferring some of
29:06
your skills and your speed work into on a trying on a tea tray,
29:10
which is really cool. Ready.
29:12
Yeah, I feel. Like we do enough of that.
29:14
Yeah, maybe we do not really. I'm genuinely very keen to have
29:17
a go at this guy, yeah. I'm also like, I'm terrified,
29:19
but I'm, I'm really fascinated like on with the training, but
29:23
my like, my point of like vision is coming from it.
29:28
I don't know why, but it became really popular.
29:30
Maybe 3-4, maybe it was the last winter Olympic cycle.
29:35
Lots of CrossFit athletes in their offseason started getting
29:39
into bobsleigh. If it was a similar thing where
29:43
I think they were all Australians, it was James
29:44
Newberry and Tier 2 when they were both like fully in on
29:48
CrossFit before they started doing high rocks.
29:51
I don't know whether that was like an Australian talent
29:53
pathway similar to what I'm assuming Matt did, where they
29:56
were like, these are really powerful athletes and they're
29:59
really athletic and they've got good strong core.
30:01
They don't necessarily understand the ways in which the
30:05
bobsleigh works. They don't have to steer.
30:07
Yeah, but they're just going to create good force down the track
30:11
and then jump in. Exactly.
30:13
So like, their training obviously for, for CrossFit is
30:17
much more broad in terms of all of the different exercises.
30:21
And they're doing lots of gymnastics and Olympic weight
30:23
lifting, but it's like, it's the transfer from Olympic
30:26
weightlifting. I think Tia and James maybe both
30:28
have backgrounds in sprinting anyway.
30:30
So it's just like when you're looking to select someone for
30:33
skeleton, no one goes to school when they're a kid and goes, oh,
30:37
I want to do skeleton. They might do now because they
30:39
hand like your models to the cartoon, but especially when I
30:42
was at school, it's like kids want to be footballers.
30:44
They want to be a rugby, they want to do X-Men.
30:45
No one really thinks of a niche sport.
30:47
So talent scouts have to go and say, OK, well, who's the really
30:51
fast explosive kid? Maybe we can like coerce them
30:54
into doing sled or skeleton or something like that.
30:56
And it's, I had a conversation similar to this with someone
31:00
about 10 meter platform diving. How do you get into that?
31:04
Well, they go to the gymnastics gym and they find kids who are
31:07
really good at gymnastics. Maybe they're not going to be
31:09
the best gymnasts, but they want to jump off something really
31:12
high and go Splash I. I don't know if I've mentioned
31:14
this to you, a lot of mogul skiers formerly from a
31:17
gymnastics background because you get heavy point scoring on
31:20
the the technicalities of the tricks that you do between the
31:23
moguls and then the rest of it's just a race.
31:25
Interestingly on that as well, don't know if you've seen this
31:27
highlight, one of the guys who I think end up getting the silver
31:30
medal won his heat race in the moguls after he hit one mogul so
31:35
wrong. He came off the jump, that was
31:36
straight after sideways, went round, did hit pull district
31:41
anyway, landed kind of sideways, hit another bump which meant
31:45
they had caught him, stood him up backwards and he went through
31:47
the last mogul field backwards in one race.
31:49
Really unreal, unbelievable, crazy.
31:52
But yeah, so as you were saying, there's a lot of transferable
31:55
skills from like fast moving power, Olympic lifting and goes
31:59
into a sport like this because again, you are generating a like
32:02
accelerated Sprint. So it's like I would just look
32:05
at probably the same as like when the affected like 100 meter
32:11
runners, they're running offsea offseason, when they're starting
32:14
to get into season, they do all of their stuff indoors, hence
32:17
why Keely was running indoors earlier this this week and
32:20
they're doing 60 meters because there's not 100 meter tracking
32:23
doors. So it's like their training for
32:26
60 meters sprinting is probably very, very similar to this.
32:29
You just don't have like the skill acquisition of having to
32:32
be accurate and jumping onto the train to the right position.
32:35
And that's just like the sport of repetition a bit like
32:37
practicing long jump or triple jump or high jump.
32:39
It's like take off where my feet need to be, where my hands need
32:42
to be. It's like, it's really
32:43
fascinating. Well, then the next thing is
32:46
really interesting is you look at like any sprinters that
32:48
usually generally pretty well built and that, that there is
32:52
grounds for that as well in the upper body.
32:54
However, a lot of the large train, a lot of the training
32:57
they have is they well, they need to be slight enough that
33:00
aerodynamic is not having a massive impact, which when
33:02
they're in those suits and like with how bulky you can get, it's
33:05
not going to make a huge impact. But the big thing is the
33:09
protection element of it because you are going to hit the side
33:13
and if you dislocate your shoulder as you slam into it and
33:15
then you can't actually steer very well when you're out of the
33:17
competition. Not great.
33:18
But the main thing is also just general mass because the
33:22
momentum that you want to conserve.
33:24
So as much as it's the the general understanding from the
33:27
research that I have is there is a positive linear trend in upper
33:32
body training as well as lower body training and strength.
33:35
As long as the accelerative speed doesn't change as soon as
33:41
you cross the line, you need to start losing weight again.
33:43
Yeah. Because you basically just need
33:45
all that you should care about is acceleration.
33:47
And if you build more body, upper body mass, and you've got
33:49
to hold it, yeah, then your momentum into the.
33:52
Into the run become means that you end up going quicker and you
33:54
lose less speed if you do make impact in turn.
33:56
I mean, it makes a lot of sense. I think there's I don't know
33:59
where he's based, if he is based in the UK, because I think it's
34:02
Bath University that have a big winter sports centre and they do
34:06
a lot of the indoor training there.
34:08
And they'll have like a, it looks like a bobsleigh, but it's
34:11
just like a a metal cage with the hair outside and it's like
34:14
you can load it full of weight and they'll just like run up and
34:17
down. I'm sure there's probably
34:18
something similar. I know this is going to mean
34:20
from Surrey, but that absolutely mean nothing in terms of where
34:23
you could put it. Maybe my my knowledge on that is
34:25
like outdated and there's probably more places around the
34:27
UK where you can train but. I would actually still be
34:30
surprised to be on this. Bath is they have some amazing
34:32
facilities there for winter sport.
34:34
Well, there you go. If you've been inspired to do
34:36
Skeleton Off this year, go to Bath University.
34:37
If you haven't gone, do. You know what, I hope it does
34:40
because like we, we don't necessarily have the best
34:42
pedigree in, in GB for winter sports, but off the back of
34:46
this, we've got 3 gold medals. Yeah.
34:48
And like, they're in niche sports, but whatever.
34:50
Like hopefully it sparks more people to get into it.
34:54
And like, what should the snowboarder remind me?
34:57
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like she's, what, 20 years old?
35:00
So it's like she's got a great career ahead of her.
35:02
She hopefully inspires lots of other.
35:04
Girls to get into snowboarding or something similar in term if
35:07
we round off that, that sort of training programming, what it
35:10
might look like and you know, we've mentioned the importance
35:12
of up body, but also plyometrics with anything where you're doing
35:14
running is always useful. So that's what Tuesday would
35:16
look like. Not necessarily a double session
35:18
unless you split the plyometrics and the upper body out.
35:21
Wednesday again, a bit more sprinting work, a bit more sort
35:26
of deliberate movement strength work around sprinting to kind of
35:29
build the strength and the muscles that are needed.
35:31
Specifically again Wednesday as you're getting close to the
35:35
season, you'd probably try and do 2 sliding sessions a week I'm
35:39
told. And so you might do one of them
35:41
midweek and then one of them towards the weekend.
35:43
Again, a lot of these athletes do have full time jobs as well,
35:46
yeah, because they're in E sports.
35:47
So they have to try and prioritize that on a raise the
35:50
amount of money. And so you might have a rest day
35:53
after one of those days on where you've been on the track because
35:55
you might have had a few bumps. It might have been a pretty
35:58
intensive day. You might have also had a lot of
36:00
travel because then there there aren't just a few in London make
36:04
you all over. So you've probably flown are.
36:06
There dry slopes. Is that a thing?
36:09
There are. Drives basically like a slide,
36:11
yeah. But then you you're not getting
36:13
the same technical challenges because.
36:16
Yeah, because you can't. Yeah, you won't.
36:19
You way I get suddenly hit it. So, yeah, finding places.
36:22
And that's why offseason training might look very
36:23
different. Yeah.
36:24
And then again, we're going into still a large dependence on leg
36:28
training through like into a weekend with explosivity.
36:32
Kind of it's not plyometrics if you're adding loads of weight
36:35
necessarily, but then kind of looking at those movements as
36:37
like a trap or deadlift with a jump and then catching yourself,
36:41
that kind of thing. Again, topping up with force
36:44
absorption. The main thing, as we've said
36:46
through this whole thing is like how fast can you get in 30
36:49
meters? And how accurately can you then
36:52
jump on the board and on the skeleton, sorry, on the on the
36:55
tray. And then how accurately can you
36:58
steal yourself down with minimal body movements.
37:00
And that element of it is more experienced than anything and
37:03
feel, yeah. I've I've got so many questions
37:06
I've I'd love to know how much the tray costs.
37:10
Oh that's a great question cause I know the diameter the the
37:12
sizing of it. Tell me the.
37:13
Diameter so in for something so small, I reckon it's
37:16
embarrassingly exclusive. The sled.
37:18
Weight 43 kilos for men wow it's actually quite heavy yeah yeah,
37:22
which is good it means it doesn't slip around to your
37:24
rails 35 kilograms for women and then they also.
37:28
It's set weight. Yeah, yeah.
37:29
And then 30, sorry, 80 to 120 centimetres in the length, but
37:33
that's also massively dependent on the body.
37:35
So there are things that you'll see, the handles, the handles
37:38
aren't straight lines. They might have been one day,
37:41
but they're now like shaped to the body.
37:43
So like you sit in it, which kind of cradles you a bit more.
37:46
But yeah, the, the a lot of the trays are also largely made out
37:48
of carbon Piber where they can be.
37:50
And then a lot of the weight goes at the bottom in the actual
37:52
run. We should do some.
37:52
Research for the next pod to see how expensive it is.
37:55
OK, I'm also like. I wonder what the similarity
37:58
would be a game. Guess the price of something
38:00
that is like, yeah, yeah. That's a good idea.
38:02
The also then the similarities between neck training that F1
38:06
drivers do and neck training that skeleton.
38:09
Yeah, yeah, riders do, yeah, that skeletons riders, skeleton
38:12
riders, because I'm sure there's lots of similarities there as
38:15
well. You'd imagine, anyway.
38:17
But then we're going to go into this opposing sport, let's go,
38:20
which GB has also been really good at.
38:21
Unfortunately we've actually not had any medals so far this
38:24
tournament, but we are. There's still so much curling to
38:26
go. So curling, there's quite a a
38:30
bit more of the skill element to this, but again, I've been
38:32
watching in the lead up to this BBC have got gone and got some
38:35
average people and got them to do it.
38:37
And it, it, there's things that you don't even think about this
38:40
slide when they're going to push it and then push themselves off.
38:44
The balance that's required for that is insane.
38:46
Yeah. Because how long the eyes?
38:48
Yeah, you're on normal shoes. They've got a metal bit on them
38:50
or like a slidy bit. And then you're actually leaning
38:53
on that brush to balance yourself and then deliver it
38:56
perfectly with the spin and everything.
38:58
Oh no, it's like. It's one of those ones where.
39:00
If you are very good at it, you make it look so easy.
39:03
And I think, I think the distance from the release point
39:06
to the centre of the target they're aiming at is some, it's
39:08
something like it's either 40 yards or 40 meters, but either
39:11
way, long. That is long, yeah.
39:13
Yeah. And you don't see that until
39:14
they are. Yeah, yeah.
39:14
Because the camera is just like above the target and then
39:17
watching them release. Yeah, so there, there's actually
39:19
a lot more to this. The next thing in terms of we've
39:22
said balance, we've said power that you're going to need for
39:25
like releasing the stone, which doesn't look crazy, means a lot
39:28
of the power comes from the push off in the 1st place.
39:31
Power for the brush usage. Oh yeah.
39:34
Have you seen the video of the brush?
39:35
The snap? I was going to say this and how
39:37
hard his hand hit. I don't know if he hit the stone
39:40
or the ice, but I was like, he was in some serious pain.
39:43
Yeah, they put. Some they put serious, serious
39:45
load through that. And again, if you think about
39:47
how I don't know if you've like brushed the the floor before, if
39:50
you're if you're just brushing it, you know, around the gym and
39:53
you just your heart rate actually does get up.
39:55
But if you're trying to do it as much as you can, you're like
39:57
pushing as hard as you can with your whole body weight and if
39:59
you actually watch them. There's not a lot of their feet
40:02
are on the floor. They're doing a really good job
40:04
of like just being on their tip toes sliding along and all their
40:06
way through it. Like they they do get heart rate
40:08
spikes and they do need to do aerobicry.
40:10
Accuracy around not hitting the stone and whatever.
40:12
That'd be another one to guess because I'd like to know how
40:14
expensive a brush is. I'd like to know how expensive a
40:17
stone is because the stone it has got a metal handle and the
40:21
light is green. If they let go of it before the
40:23
the line. Oh, it's got a sense.
40:25
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow.
40:26
Yeah, there's lots we we need to learn.
40:28
It is fascinating. But yeah, so.
40:31
In yeah, their training is a lot more about accuracy and skill
40:36
set and balance and that sort of thing.
40:37
But there is still the requirement to do the S&C side
40:41
of it for the power to push off and to be able to be
40:45
consistently accurate and having good motor control.
40:48
This. Is going to be really ignorant.
40:49
There's always one stone pusher. That's their job, no?
40:54
They. All have to do it.
40:55
They all. Take it in turns.
40:56
OK, so. That that then changes because
40:58
it's like so you've. Got different formats in in
41:00
curling, you don't have a solos. OK, So you're always out here.
41:04
Yeah. So you've got men's double S,
41:06
women's double S you've got mixed double S You've then got
41:08
the team event where you can have mixed team.
41:11
So 2 girls, 2 boys and then the same you have for for men, for
41:16
women. Yeah, yeah.
41:18
But in they've covered all bases.
41:20
Yeah, in in the, in the way that it's done you you, you take it
41:24
in turns on ends to throw stones.
41:27
I don't think, however, based on what I've watched, unless I'm
41:30
wrong, that you necessarily have to take it in turns 1 by 1.
41:34
I I'm pretty sure I've seen the guy throw 2 stones and the guy
41:38
throw 2 stones. And you do tend to have a better
41:41
stone thrower, obviously in a, in a mixed double S, generally
41:45
from strength perspective, the men have a better output on the
41:47
brush. So you do end up taking that on.
41:49
So a lot of the time what you have, and This is why it might
41:52
seem somewhat confusing, is that sometimes the the women will be
41:55
down lining the guy up as he's aiming and like give him an aim
41:59
point to start off with and then he'll throw it and then he'll
42:03
get up and start brushing himself because he's going to do
42:05
a better job of that. And it's her job to just guide
42:07
it in and then maybe help at the end.
42:10
And and then whereas when a woman throws in a mixed double
42:13
team, quite often the man immediately starts doing the
42:15
brushing and then she again just helps out if she needs to at the
42:17
end. That's not like 100% true.
42:20
Like if if the guy's been brushing, brushing 3 stones in a
42:23
row, then he might need a rest. Yeah, Yeah.
42:26
But it also depends on the shot. Like sometimes there is no
42:28
intention to do a nice curl. It's just like, and it's just
42:31
like smashed this one out of the way.
42:33
But yeah, it gets it gets hugely technical.
42:35
And when you think about. So it's an end is like 1 mini
42:39
game you need to you need to win the majority of NS across 10
42:44
need to yeah, across a game of 10 NS.
42:47
But in their training to play practice games, they're not
42:51
often doing 10 NS because that's a long time each N takes about
42:54
15 minutes. So just in sheer training
42:58
volume, it's actually quite a lot of time spent out there.
42:59
Again, we said the same thing about skeleton, but time on the
43:02
ice is expensive yeah, but so they are sometimes doing double
43:06
days in terms of the skill of trying to hit a shot over and
43:08
over again. But they might do a six end game
43:11
in a scenario where they're like 5 down.
43:14
So how do they have to take that?
43:15
Because there's there's rules with incoming as well.
43:17
You might see that most games, especially in the mix format.
43:20
And this is something I learnt this this year was there's
43:24
always a stone or 2 stones put out before the game starts and
43:28
that's depending on who's got the hammer, which is the last
43:30
throw. You can put your stone somewhere
43:34
as like a shield. So quite often it's always in
43:36
the same place. It's like slightly ahead of the
43:38
target so you have to curl round it.
43:40
Sometimes people just put one dead in the middle and they've
43:42
got their own tactic for that, and then they do all that
43:44
scenario stuff. But they might be playing only
43:47
30 ends a week, which doesn't seem like a lot.
43:49
But then when you convert that into multiplied by four, that's
43:53
120 minutes. Is that right?
43:57
That is multiplied by 4, But I don't think that's what I was
43:59
trying to do. It should be 30 times.
44:02
Oh yeah, it's 100 and wow, struggling with this one.
44:05
I think that's 12 hours of curling if you do.
44:07
Five hours is hard, yeah. Yeah, you do 30 NS, I think
44:10
that's 12 hours of curling, like actually playing the game.
44:12
So then there's all the other elements.
44:14
Like we said, you do need to do strength condition.
44:16
You don't necessarily need to do any like Ugg threshold stuff,
44:19
but you do need to be active out there, probably still running
44:22
that kind of thing, keeping the body in a position where like it
44:24
can deal with sudden increase in heart rate I think.
44:27
Also like it's. It doesn't seem particularly
44:31
like challenging in terms of like physical, but it's also a
44:36
lot of concentration. So the fits you are, the easier
44:38
it is for you to be able to concentrate over long periods of
44:41
time when you are actually active and moving around.
44:43
So I think that plays a part. I'm sure like flexibility, like
44:47
some of the positions you get in when you're lunging and like
44:49
you're bending over with the stick when you're brushing the
44:51
ice as well. It's like, I'm sure like essence
44:54
is a very small part of what they're doing because it is like
44:58
it's just skill and repetition based one of the.
45:01
Things with their sport as well is that they get to, they'll do
45:04
training in these tournaments. So just because they're
45:07
competing doesn't mean they won't train during this because
45:09
they'll be working on weaknesses or shots they got wrong.
45:12
But that often means and they were doing an interview, they
45:15
got up, they were on the ice practicing at 6:00 AM.
45:18
They then played their first game at 9:00 AM.
45:20
They got off the ice at 12 midday.
45:23
They then had their second game starting at 4:00 PM.
45:25
And then they had practice again at 10:00 PM that night and they
45:28
were back on at six the next morning.
45:29
It's actually quite intense for a sport of seemingly low in a
45:32
lot of. Volume.
45:33
Yeah, that's a long day and. So they're spending a lot of
45:36
time, they're absolutely shattered when it comes to
45:37
tournament. And that's the other thing is
45:39
like their endurance of being able to continuously do that
45:42
output because the reason that they're also playing so much
45:45
isn't, I mean, we've said there's multiple formats.
45:47
She might have a mixed double s in the morning, you might have a
45:49
mixed double s in the afternoon. But then they actually overlap
45:51
with the women's team. And then all of a sudden, yeah,
45:53
you're doing that as well. I'd I'd love to know like again,
45:56
like the pathway how you've got into curling, especially in a
45:59
country that's that I mean, there's so it's.
46:01
Actually, quite. It is quite big in Scotland.
46:03
I've heard that, yeah. Yeah.
46:04
And I do think that it's a thing.
46:05
It's a bit like lawn bowls. Like I actually know a few young
46:07
people that have played lawn bowls when they were younger.
46:09
And I wonder if it's just that sort of like you have a family
46:11
member that does it or maybe again, off the back of the
46:13
Olympics because I can't remember you.
46:15
Watch this and you go, well, I want to try it, Yeah.
46:17
I think there was an Olympics early on in the 2000s where team
46:21
we won a gold medal and it was one of the best.
46:23
I remember watching. In the last couple of years
46:25
we've been quite good at it, yeah.
46:27
And people are like GB have got really into it, don't get me
46:29
wrong. If there was a place where I
46:30
could do it locally, I would definitely go down and do it.
46:32
You'd. Definitely go and try.
46:33
But then is there like an equivalent that you can do
46:36
without the ice that's bowlings, Yeah, I guess.
46:39
But you're not, you're not sliding.
46:40
Around wee bowling, Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
46:42
Wee curling, yeah. Yeah, I'm sure.
46:44
That exists. It does.
46:45
Exist. I've got it over there.
46:48
Sorted. Yeah, no, just very different
46:50
sports, very different ways of training, both relatively
46:53
intense. Oh yeah, In actual fact, from
46:55
what I said of the curling training versus skeleton, I'd
46:57
rather do the skeleton training. Yeah, I don't want to behave,
47:00
no. I'd rather do he skips stuff in
47:02
the morning and do a bit of squatting, spend that down a
47:07
slide. Anyway, that that kind of brings
47:09
us to the end of the topic. If you guys find that
47:10
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47:13
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49:03
We're into the game section. I'm excited.
49:05
It's my turn. I've been really enjoying
49:07
putting together the guest. The they've been good.
49:10
So we've done Guess the Athlete twice.
49:13
We're not doing that this time. Oh no, this time we're doing
49:17
Guess the Sport. Cool.
49:19
So I'm going to give you clues on sports one at a time, and
49:22
you're going to tell me what you think the sport is.
49:24
OK, for those of you listening, play along at home wherever you
49:27
are listening. See if you can get the sport
49:30
before Charles gets it. As soon as you get it, shout it
49:32
out. OK.
49:33
This time you're not going against Roscoe.
49:34
I know, but the pressure gets not good for me.
49:37
Yeah, you lose. OK, cool.
49:38
Perfect. So.
49:39
Don't guess unless you're confident.
49:40
OK, OK, size, Go round one. The longest ever match. 11
49:47
hours, 5 minutes, tennis. Do you not want any of the
49:52
other? Clues.
49:53
Are you sure? Yeah, OK.
49:54
That's spot on correct. As I say, most players at a time
49:58
is 4 uses a ball. The current all time leader is
50:02
no, no bad job. Yeah, yeah, I I didn't need it.
50:05
I wasn't going to. Give you his name.
50:06
I was going to say the current. Leader for all time winning
50:08
prize money is $160 million. Oh, you should have said of the.
50:12
Most ultimate athlete ever, right?
50:14
So next one, that was very good, OK.
50:16
The highest ever number of goals scored, 21, has 12 players on a
50:23
surface at a time. Game is not played with a ball.
50:30
Great Britain has won Olympic gold in this sport.
50:35
Canada has won Olympic gold 9. Times and that's your final
50:40
clue. 6 on 6 and you're. Scoring and it's not played with
50:46
a ball. It's not played with a ball.
50:51
Oh, No 6 on, 6/6 on. 6 Not played with the ball.
50:54
England's won. An Olympic gold in this sport
50:57
Once Canada's won Olympic gold 9 times.
51:03
And it's on a field, a surface. Is what I said.
51:06
It's on a. Surface.
51:07
Yeah, and it's not. Played with a ball, it's not
51:10
played with a ball. It must be played with
51:11
something. It's round.
51:13
It's not a ball. Is that like a there's a
51:16
there's? A terminology for.
51:17
Them it's it's actually a ball, but it's not called the ball.
51:19
It's not a ball. But it's round.
51:24
Yeah, I can hear the people. At home screaming and screaming
51:27
at you and Calendar are good at it.
51:28
Canada are really good at it. Is there a net there isn't it?
51:32
It's volleyball. It's not volleyball.
51:35
I was. I was banking on volleyball
51:37
being named something different. Unfortunately, it is.
51:39
Ice hockey? No, I was going to, I was going
51:43
to say. Ice hockey.
51:43
But I was like, surely we haven't won an Olympic gold in
51:46
there 1936 that no get out. That's a great bat.
51:49
That's. Huge.
51:50
That's a good. That's a great I.
51:51
Even had hockey in my head is what's so.
51:53
Annoying. OK, next 1 then.
51:56
Clue number one, we've got Olympic matches consist of three
52:00
minute periods. OK, competitors wear conductive
52:06
clothing. There are three.
52:09
Distinct disciplines within this.
52:11
Sport A target area changes depending on the discipline
52:19
points are scored. By making.
52:21
Contact with the tip or edge. It's an Olympic sport.
52:31
It's an Olympic sport and you wear conductive clothing.
52:34
You do wear conductive clothing. Summer Olympics could be.
52:42
That's. Tough for me.
52:46
The tip or edge. I would also.
52:49
Say that this is. One of the oldest.
52:51
Sports in history. So this pre dates the UMB games.
53:00
Conduct so it's I reckon. It's something like.
53:02
Wrestling. But why would you wear conductor
53:05
clothing? So it's touch contact.
53:07
It's like judo or score points for the tip or edge.
53:11
It's a big. Oh sword.
53:12
Oh, fencing spawn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, very good.
53:16
You're better than that. OK, the last one.
53:21
There is evidence. That this sport is 20. 5000
53:24
years old as a sport clue #2. A fan.
53:29
Is called a toxophilite. OK, a fan of the.
53:34
Sport not like a. Physical fan A perfect score
53:38
score A perfect score in qualification of the Olympic
53:41
Games is 1440 points. Wind is.
53:47
Arguably the largest challenge in the outdoor variant of this
53:50
sport, outdoor variants it. Is an Olympic sport.
53:55
And events are contested. At distances ranging from 30 to
53:58
90 meters. Old it is, old is old are.
54:09
They all the clues I'm getting. They are all the clues, I think.
54:11
It's something like. I can give.
54:13
You a clue that isn't necessarily.
54:15
Strictly factual because I'm remembering a fact.
54:18
OK that isn't I want to take it. I believe the world record for
54:22
the 30m distance is 5 seconds. That's not helped even a little
54:31
bit for me. If I tell you that it's.
54:34
Not just an Olympic sport, but. It debuted as an Olympic sport
54:37
in the Paras Olympics. OK, but it's very.
54:41
Old did it. Do you?
54:43
It might have been. The one before, do we have an?
54:44
Olympics in 2020? No, London.
54:47
No, that's no fault. You're old.
54:50
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's funny it debuted in a.
54:52
Recent Olympics, basically. I'm struggling 30.
54:56
To 90 meters. Yeah.
54:59
Is it really stupid I should get it?
55:01
I don't think so. I think when you've got the
55:03
broad variety. Of every sport that exists, it's
55:05
quite hard to narrow down. It's it's, it's not obvious.
55:08
It's obvious when you know what's the fan called.
55:10
Again, top a toxophilite, which I'm going to tell you right now.
55:14
Does not help. Oh.
55:16
Perfect. Then I I don't know, climbing.
55:20
Speed climbing 30 meters. In five seconds.
55:23
Pretty crazy. That is mental.
55:25
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
55:26
I don't think I can crawl flat. You definitely know what I
55:29
can't. That is mental.
55:31
Yeah. Is you running up a vertical
55:32
slope? Top like topography talks offer
55:36
like Oh yeah. When I read it.
55:39
Feels like that has to be a clue because it's, you know, I think
55:41
it was the, IT was the Olympics before Paris.
55:43
It was Yeah, yeah, yeah. The climate.
55:45
Is fun to watch actually. Actually got that.
55:47
Really good that was. Is that the last one?
55:48
That was the last one. That was not a good.
55:50
Round it wasn't it wasn't the best but like I was just trying
55:52
new format I. Think I'll stick to athletes for
55:53
you. Maybe I'll bring new team.
55:55
I was going to do guess the team.
55:56
I was going to do guess the team.
55:58
But maybe we'll do that next time.
56:00
Yeah. Yeah.
56:01
What was the other? What?
56:01
Was the other game that we said. We should do.
56:03
Oh, guess the price. Guess the price.
56:04
I love that. Yeah, that'll be good.
56:06
What? What?
56:06
What's the game show called that does?
56:08
That there's a whole thing. This is guess the price.
56:13
There's like a big wheel and it's an American show and family
56:18
fortunes. No, no.
56:20
Family Feud No. Seal or no deal?
56:22
No, it's like the price is right.
56:25
Oh yeah, we'll do the price is right.
56:26
OK If you want to see the price is right, we will do that as a
56:29
game in one of the upcoming episodes.
56:31
Other than that though, I think that wraps up this episode.
56:33
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