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Parasites and Mental Health- Disgusting yet Entertaining · Millennial Mental Health Channel

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  Because you know, a lot not a lot of celebrities want to talk about
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  this, but Taylor Swift recently came out and said that she has a parasite.
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  This is Millennial Mental Health Channel. I'm doctor Justin Romano, a child
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  adolescent psychiatry fellow, and I'm Medikoreo, a licensed clinical therapist. Our podcast
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  is here because we wanted to start a much need to conversation about mental health.
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  Our goal is to teach you as much as we can by sharing our
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  own experiences and interviewing experts in the mental health field. We will discuss topics
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  like mood disorders, psychotic disorders, substance use, personality disorders, and many
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  more. Millennial Mental Health Channel buy Millennials for everyone. We hope you enjoyed
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  oh man, let's just jump into it, dude. Ready. We
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  talked a lot before the episode. Let's do shout outs first. We don't
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  even need a cool intro. Well, let's just we're into it. You
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  guys are here, We're here. Uh. Spotify Wrapped came out today.
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  Happy National Spotify Rap Day. I'm pretty happy. With My My Music wrapped
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  and rewind That was pretty cool. Speaking of the rap, we got our
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  podcast one a lot of cool information. The show continues to have some big
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  about five to six hundred of our fans, we're one of their top five,
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  like a comment on each episode, and we got one recently on our last
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  one with Toxic Masculinity, so I do want to share it. It's from
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  one of our listeners, Denise. Denise said, you know, they enjoyed
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  the show, but they suggested the book The Will to Change, The Will
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  to Change by Belle Hooks. It talks about masculinity and love and emotions.
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  So for anyone that was interested in our last episode, that's a book you
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  can read. I've added it to my want to read section of Goodreads.
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  So really really cool to be able to interact with our fans and our listeners
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  to gain knowledge, to know what kind of information you guys are interested in.
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  And we get messages a bunch that are just request or suggestions for episodes,
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  and one of our next episodes is going to be one of those.
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  So yeah, this is just this is cool. Justin and I talked before
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  we recorded it, just like you know, we just hit four years to
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  see where the show was, you know, recording back then to see where
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  we're at now with not just like physically with like the equipment we use now
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  and how like seriously we take it. But too just like to see the
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  virtualness of the fans and the listens, and I'm really grateful for it.
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  We really appreciate all the listeners and all the people that tune in each each
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  couple of weeks. Honestly, I enjoy just talking to Justin every couple of
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  weeks. But to make it for you all, got all you guys listening.
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  That's really cool too. On top of that too, I'm rambling a
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  lot justin sorry. Our friend Ben walk Kim, friend of the show,
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  he was on our show, We were on his show. He posted about
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  his Spotify raft today amazing success over the last year. We were really happy
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  for him. We feel really fortunate to have like him as a friend and
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  someone that we can learn from and talked to. He actually shared that his
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  most listened episode listened to episode this last year was the one that we were
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  on, So that's really cool. We were really appreciated to be getting to
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  be with Ben, want gettingto record with him. We'll link his show in
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  the show comments. It's the Discover more podcasts if you haven't checked it out
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  yet, If you haven't checked out the episode we've been on. Check it
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  out. He always drops some cool knowledge, has some really great guests on
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  has really taken his show to the next level, and it's really cool to
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  see you. I hope he doesn't tell all his guests that, like you
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  and my number one guest, baby, you got the most downloads of anyone.
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  If he does, it worked on me. I'm pretty crazy. So
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  he was flattering, all right, what are we doing? What are we
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  driving into? We're talking about parasites, and I know that you guys are
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  going to see the title of this episode and know what we're talking about.
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  But it's gross. It's supposed to be a little gross. Parasites are gross.
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  Andie, do you have a story about parasites? Zero? I told
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  Justin like I have. I literally have nothing nothing to contribute today. All
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  I have is just the will to learn, because I feel like there's a
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  lot of stuff on here that I know nothing about. I've heard about Justin's
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  probably mentioned to me, but I really don't know anything. So I got
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  no story. I'm just here to listen and to well obviously I'm gonna participate,
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  but I'm really here to listen. Well, I got so many parasite
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  stories. I have just been riddled with parasites my whole life. Just well,
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  I've actually had a couple. Uh the I had ringworm when I which
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  actually is a fungus, So I don't know that's technically yeah, it's a
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  parasite. Sure, yeah, I mean you're the doctor, you tell me.
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  I know I should know this, I really should. Uh yeah,
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  I'm gonna go ahead and take a hard stance. It is a parasite.
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  And I got it from wrestling. I was the mats hadn't been properly cleaned.
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  I had ringworm. And I also had had bedbugs when I lived in
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  Seattle, and although they were not living inside of me, I hated the
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  fact that they were literally surviving and feeding off of my blood and the blood
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  of my now wife. So yeah, the bedbugs, I would have to
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  say, were the absolute worst. And every once in a while I still
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  have nightmares about them. Oh make me shiver. Honestly, we were gonna
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  do a whole show on therapy, but Google docs completely deleted our script.
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  So I figured, you know, Google's kind of a parasite, So I'm
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  going to do an episode on parasites. I know it's a loose association,
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  but that's what we're going with. Are we expecting the cease and desist letter
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  to go to your house or my house? Because I don't know if I
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  can I don't know if I can handle that. Well, I'll take it.
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  I'll pay from our PayPal account if we okay. Kind of related,
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  kind of not related. Did I ever tell you when we first moved into
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  our house over three years ago, there was apparently someone not apparently there was
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  someone who used to live here. At some point, someone was trying to
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  serve them. I don't know what they were trying to serve them, what
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  kind of like legal documents, but they're trying to serve them. One day,
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  I was home early, knock on the door. I go answer.
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  The guy's like, hey, are you blah blah blah. I was like
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  no, I was like, I think they used to live here. I
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  get their mail sometimes we just send it back, but I'm not sure who
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  that is. He's like, yeah, I figured they weren't here, Like
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  I've been trying to track them for like a bunch of states. And I
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  was like, oh, like are they are you trying to serve them?
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  And he's like yeah. He's like, yeah, I noticed, and it
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  was this was at the time that I had a loaner car because the dealership
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  was working on my car. He's like, yeah, I noticed a different
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  car in the driveway, so I thought, oh, maybe he was here,
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  but it was different from your regular white car. I was like,
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  damn, how long you been casing my house? Dude? So whoa anyway?
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  Used to assist someone getting served? That's my that's my tangentle story for
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  today. You're used to it. Yeah, So what is a parasite?
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  According to dictionary dot com, a parasite that is an organism that lives in
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  or on an organism of another species its host, and benefits by deriving nutrients
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  at the other's expense. Bomb bomb bomb So some stats and facts. I
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  like to think of our bodies as like a cool little tidepool. We are
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  hosts to over ten thousand different microbial species, a panoply of bacteria, viruses,
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  and fungi that we call the microbiome. The more we learn about the
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  microbiome, the more we find that it has ties to our mental health.
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  But there are other types of organisms that can also impact mental health, and
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  these are parasites and worms. There are three hundred different species of worms that
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  can live inside the human body. Pretty girls, Yeah through it, you
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  got to get through. There are also seventy different single cell parasites that can
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  be housed by our fleshy abodes. Researchers have found that in countries with higher
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  parasite rates, there tends to be higher rates of depression. In fact,
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  if you do have a parasite, you're four times more likely to have a
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  mental health disorder. Now, there could be a lot of different factors in
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  that, but yeah, interesting that more parasites, more mental health problems.
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  We do not know the cause of most mental health problems, like what's actually
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  going on in your body and brains. Even for depression, we don't know,
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  Like we know like some of the signs and what's going on in the
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  body, but we don't know exactly why people feel so terrible in depression.
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  We kind of hypothesize and theorize about it. One of the prevailing theories is
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  that it's about inflammation and specific inflammation in the brain at specific areas. So
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  there is a theory that parasites lead to inflammation. Inflammation gets into the brain,
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  certain brain areas get inflamed, mental health issues increase. Kind of interesting.
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  Huh Is this like a correlation causation type thing or are we just it's
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  just all theorizing at this point. This is mostly theoretical. There is an
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  association, but we don't have a causation at this point. That is a
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  lot of what we are talking about today is associations, not causations, because
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  there's not a lot of there's not a lot of studies out there where we're
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  like, all right, let's give people a bunch of parasites and then check
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  their mental health. Hope not that shit is not passing the IRP exactly What
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  is that stand for? Is it International Review Boarder? Am I making that
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  up? I think you're right? Yeah, international review that's right, that's
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  right. I did some undergrad research at one point, bingo. So yes,
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  for those who don't know, if you're doing any research project on human
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  subjects, you have to get it approved by the IRB, and it's pretty
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  stringent. It takes a while sometimes to get these things improved. Yeah,
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  so you may be asking yourself, Okay, parasites blah blah blah, how
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  common is this? Surprisingly, twelve million Americans get parasitic infections every year.
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  So there's a total of three hundred and fifty million Americans ish, so a
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  good amount of parasites every year in the US. You want to know what
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  the percentage is on that. I was hoping you were calculating that. What's
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  the percentage in it? About three point four to two if we're going to
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  round up three point for three percent for Americans every year, that's basically everyone.
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  So if you have one hundred people in a room, three point four
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  of them have had a parasitic infection. Are yeah, pretty wild. So
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  the first bug that we want to talk about to talk about is called toxoplasma
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  Gandhi eye Brody and slip there. So this is a protozoan parasite, so
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  it's out of bacteria. It's not technically an animal. It's a protozoa.
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  And according to the CDC, eleven percent of the US population aged six and
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  older have been infected with toxo. Isn't that crazy? That's a lot.
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  Yeah, that could be me and you. That could be me and you,
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  especially because you get TOSO from cat poop, cat shit just sitting there.
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  Have you ever had a cat? Have you ever cleaned a letterbox.
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  Never in my life, Okay, you I have. I used to have
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  a cat and clean the litter box, so I may have been exposed to
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  talk, so I may have it. I may be going crazy right now.
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  You never know. Yeah I've lived with a cat, but I never
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  cleaned the litter box. So well, and they you know, pretty much
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  walk on their poop in their little box and then they jump up on counters
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  and get their little grubby paws on everything. So you know, yeah,
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  that's not good. Okay, if you guys want to see something really funny,
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  watch the YouTube video of this episode and see Eddie's face. It was
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  a unique combo of shocked and disgusted. And we just started the episode.
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  I don't all right what hit me with the next fact? I don't even
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  know a line. Are on a large meta analysis, so this is like
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  a big study. Lots of data from Despina g Aloniitis MD. I don't
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  worry, I practiced that name before the episode started. Showed that people who
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  have been infected were more likely to develop symptoms of schizophrenia in psychosis, so
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  another association toxo infections and schizophrenia. Schizophrenia is a heterogeneous disorder, which means
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  it could have thousands of potential causes. We don't really know. I think
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  i've in my experience, you hear all types of things. It's a genetic,
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  someone has like a break, a psychotic break, someone has it induced
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  by substance use. Like, there's so many reasons that something could has.
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  Schizophrena can happen, So it's catshit is apparently one of them. The data
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  is interesting. We've talked about it. Justin's mentioned that it shows an association
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  but not necessarily a causation. So do not take whatever we're saying today is
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  saying cat shit equal schizophrenia. There's there's different, there's more steps in between.
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  It doesn't. It doesn't just do that. It doesn't, yes what
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  I'm saying. Anyway, we haven't done any randomized controlled trials on it,
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  so we can't be sure. Other studies also should suggest that there's also a
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  connection between toxo and bipolar mania, which sometimes people will mention like a manic
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  episode or a manic break, or some type of like psychotic tendencies with mania,
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  schizophrenia, bipolar manic episodes all kind of intertwined a little bit. I
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  can see the the word web in my head as I talk. Pretty wild,
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  pretty fascinating. Toxo. Yeah, if you want to look up any
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  sources, we're gonna put some of the sources that we used for today in
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  our show notes and yeah, google toso, toxo, plasma, gandhia.
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  A very interesting little bug. Interesting. The next one is probably commonly known.
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  According to Justin, it's a Napoleon's little helper, which is syphilis.
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  I'm sure you'll tell me why it's Napoleon's little helper at some point. Yes,
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  Napoleon had syphilis, at least it's been historically documented. But if you
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  don't know what syphilis is, it is a sexually transmitted infection that starts in
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  the genitalia and can migrate into your nervous system and your brain. This is
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  what we call tertiary syphilis. So primary is when it's just sitting in your
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  genitals, SECONDARYA is when it's in the surrounding area, and the tertiarya is
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  when it hits the brain and the central nervous system. Syphilis has been tied
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  to mental health conditions like depression, mania, psychosis, personality changes, delirium,
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  and dementia. Justin what is the delirium is a state of altered consciousness
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  that is reversible. It's really common in the hospital and we see it all
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  the time with people who have just gotten out of surgery, people who are
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  really sick. Do you it's like an acute dementia. Like so it's like
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  a couple of days of you're really confused, you're really agitated, you don't
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  know what's going on. That's delirium. You ever heard that song from like
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  the early two thousands, The I think there's a remix with Soldier Boy in
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  it. Do you know what I'm talking about? Delirious? Yeah? Yeah,
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  yeah, you make me deliria. Like, now that you mentioned what
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  it is, it makes more sense. Wow, maybe Soldier Boy's just got
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  syphilis. See that's this is like the second like season is responsibility for today
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  is very litigious. He will sue at the drop of a hat. Yeah,
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  you do not want the Soldier boy at your door. He delivered the
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  served paperwork himself. He does it. So it's really important to treat syphilis
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  early because if you don't, then it can spread to your brain and give
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  you some of those neurologic conditions and you might be thinking like, didn't we
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  get rid of syphilis? Isn't that like an old disease? And you would
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  be wrong because syphilis is on the rise. It's a pretty common sexually transmitted
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  infection. And where I did residency in Omaha, Nebraska, I was told
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  multiple times that Omaha is a major hotspot for syphilis, syphilis capital of the
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  world. Yes, you know, in anybody's defense, that's listening. I
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  never once had the idea or the thought, hmmm, syphilis is probably eradicated.
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  So one that wasn't that didn't think that didn't we eradicate it. I'm
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  there with you. I have not thought about syphilis. Perfect and thanks for
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  validating our viewers and listeners. Here, Eddie, do what I can.
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  Next step, we have a neurologic condition for you, which is seizures.
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  So seizures is an uncontrolled firing of neurons in the brain which makes you do
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  weird things like staring, jerking movements of your limbs, stiffening of the body,
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  changes in your breath breathing patterns. And one of the most common causes
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  of seizures, especially in the Third World where parasites are more common, is
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  a worm called teneous solium and this lovely little baga creates little cysts in your
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  brain. That again you two watch Eddie's face. It's great. I'm like
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  sweating. I mean, it's women in the house, but this is like
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  I haven't stopped sweating. Okay, this one is also from veces, but
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  it's not cats this time. It's pigs. So anywhere that pigs are defecating
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  freely, you're more likely to get this. This isn't necessarily a mental health
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  problem, but just another example of how parasites can get into your brain and
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  change brain, change brain structure, function, anatomy. They can have pretty
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  significant effects. There's a neurological like section in the DSM. I'm pretty sure
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  it's Caesar's not in there. I don't think so. I have an electronic
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  copy of the the DSM five text revised, so it's probably also. Yeah,
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  seizures, any type of seizure disorder. Oh, they have pens or
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  psychogenic non epileptic seizures p n e s so is in the DSM five,
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  but non actual seizures close enough for me. Same same potato potato quick.
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  You mentioned a staring as a possible issue with seizures. Yes, did anyone
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  ever confirm what happened to Mitch McConnell that day. No, I don't think
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  so. At least two days, yeah, two separate times. Yeah,
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  I don't know. Yeah, he totally froze and it did kind of look
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  like an absence seizure where you just kind of you stare off your blank and
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  then you come back to and you don't remember what happened. But of course
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  his whole publicist team said, you know, doctor examined him and he's totally
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  fine and nothing bad happened. Is this the same doctor that's Is it the
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  same doctor that's going to clear Aaron Rodgers from his torn achilles? Yeah?
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  I guess some questions about the medical professionals in this world. Same doctor who
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  said Trump had a completely clean bill of health. You know, yeah,
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  these these motherfuckers be lying. Okay, let's keep it rolling, let's keep
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  we're feeling some type of way today. Random fun fact, because you know
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  we're talking about parasites. In researching this episode, I found that the longest
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  recorded tapeworm, which is an intestinal parasite sits in your intestines, was one
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  hundred and eight feet long. A worm inside of your guts, over all
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  hundred feet long. Where does that sit? Like, where do you like
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  so that your intestines are pretty long, and so it just snakes along throughout
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  your little throughout your intestines. That's why I remember seeing like an Animal Planet
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  show or Discovery Channel show back in the day where they talk about tapeworms and
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  like one person was like on the toilet and like I had to call in
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  their family member that like cut it, and then like it went back in
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  and then the yeah, yeah, now I got your face all your discuss
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  the idea of cutting seeing it just stuck back in. Ye gross, at
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  least it was. It was like one of those dramatizations, right, And
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  it wasn't like the real It wasn't the real footage. Was it one of
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  those like cheap cartoons. Like I love it when documentaries like have like cartoon
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  reenactments and they're always looked terrible. No, it was like actors but like
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  okay, yeah, yeah you could. It was like in the corner,
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  right, it was like it said, like not it's reenactment, reenactment,
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  so mm hmm. I also remember reading in the past too that people in
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  France back in the day, I don't remember what specific year they used to
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  intentionally give themselves tapeworms to lose weight. Women would do this to look as
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  thin and attractive as possible, and then they would waste away. Yeah,
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  because how do you get it out? It would just stay there, right.
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  Yeah. They didn't have good medications to eliminate those at that point in
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  time, so yeah, hard to get out. On the flip side of
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  things, some parasites may actually be good for health and mental health. So
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  I heard a story on NPR a while back and was fascinated by it.
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  I found the story and I put it in our show notes as well too,
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  so if you want to go listen to it, read it's on there.
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  People have been using hookworms, which is a type of worm helminth parasite,
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  to treat inflammatory diseases. Kind of weird because sometimes they can increase inflammation
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  and sometimes they can decrease them. So the theory is that hookworms have been
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  evolving alongside humans for tens of thousands of years. To do this, they've
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  had to find ways to alter our immune systems so that we don't kill them
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  when they're inside of our body. So those changes to the immune system could
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  actually be useful. So people with autoimmune diseases where your body attacks itself,
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  like Crohn's disease, asthma and allergies, people with those diseases got hookworms and
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  their diseases went away. Humhmm, yeah crazy. So this has sparked like
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  a ton of research in this area to try and identify a specific mechanism as
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  to how this is working, to see if pharmaceutical companies can try and market
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  this and make billions of dollars off of it. I was gonna say,
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  don't get big farm more involvement than you're over here like these gonna see how
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  much money they can make from this instead of just you know, giving people
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  hookworms. They're like, oh, we need to find it a way to
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  make this into a bill so we can make money. Of course, that
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  is that's our lives at this point, Eddie. We're living in a capitalist
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  world. That's true. That's true, all right. So I know,
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  we usually try to have famous people and how they relate to our episodes.
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  Justin's got some good ones for us today, so we're gonna hear it.
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  We already mentioned a little bit about Napoleon Bonaparte, the who had syphilis and
• 26:36
  it was hard to find a ton of information on what his actual symptoms were,
• 26:40
  other than he had some uv itis where his eyes were really red and
• 26:42
  inflamed. Because apparently they didn't keep good medical records back in the seventeen hundreds.
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  But they did not they did not have computers. That makes sense.
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  But if you're a medical prof national epic is like every you know, Yeah,
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  Epic's the one if you know, you know, yeah, and boy
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  do I know, I've used a lot of epic. But Napoleon was a
• 27:11
  French emperor. Ridley Scott just directed a new movie about Napoleon starring Joaquin Phoenix.
• 27:18
  If you all are interested, Yeah, Napoleon syphilis parasite, you know.
• 27:25
  Surprisingly enough, I had a hard time finding celebrities who actually admit to
• 27:29
  having parasites. I'm surprised. It's just not readily available. I don't,
• 27:34
  I know. I thought for sure, Ariana Grande would be out here,
• 27:38
  Like I'm riddled. I've got so many If there's anyone who'd be open to
• 27:44
  the share, and it would be her, it would be the Grande,
• 27:47
  you know. Yeah. One celebrity that did admit to having a parasite was
• 27:52
  THEO James do you know who THEO James is. I'm trying to think of
• 27:59
  the nicest way to say this. No I don't. That's yeah. I
• 28:07
  want to at least give you the shot, you know, give you the
• 28:11
  chance, because sometimes you surprise me with the stuff that you know that's true,
• 28:15
  I know. Random. Yeah anyway, yeah, Like you were just
• 28:18
  telling me about how much you loved Doctor Strange and I was like, I
• 28:21
  didn't think you watched movies. You're right, You're right, that was Yeah,
• 28:27
  I watched that movie James, super hunky actor from movies that you know,
• 28:37
  Eddie, like Divergent and the HBO TV show White Lotus, which was
• 28:41
  excellent in that. By the way, I did watch the first season.
• 28:45
  He was on the second season, I know, just missed it. We
• 28:52
  haven't seen season two yet, Well you will. And he's he's the handsome
• 28:56
  one. He would onto Kelly Clarkson's show to tell his story and he actually
• 29:03
  got a parasitic worm in his ankle while backing in sandals. Oh yeah,
• 29:11
  not smart, No, what why would you do that? So the article
• 29:21
  said that he didn't even know what type of worm it was, but he
• 29:23
  also said that he could feel it coming out of his ankle and crawling at
• 29:29
  the leg when he was sleeping. I got my pants like closed at the
• 29:37
  bottom now to sleep. That's terrible, pretty gross. Holy shit. And
• 29:44
  our last celebrity moving on. This one's really surprising because you know, a
• 29:52
  lot not a lot of celebrities want to talk about this, but Taylor Swift
• 29:56
  recently came out and said that she has a parasite. She picked it up
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  in Kansas City when she was touring through. They call it Travis Thomas Kelsey
• 30:08
  I and it's a big old parents, big old bears, A big old
• 30:19
  parasite, bigger than her. Actually a couple of Super Bowl rings, but
• 30:26
  definitely a parasite. Yeah. He was whooping on the Raiders last week.
• 30:32
  All right, Yeah, I'm sorry for your lost dady. That's okay.
• 30:38
  Do you take on points for today? Do not play with cat poop?
• 30:45
  I don't if it needed to be said, just don't don't play with it?
• 30:51
  Uh, don't. I shouldn't say that people like cats. Just don't
• 30:57
  just wash the cat's feet. I guess I don't know what do you got
• 31:00
  from me? I think it's interesting. We don't typically test for parasites in
• 31:07
  mental health and when people come in, we're not like, we got to
• 31:11
  test you for parasites. But overall, it's still probably pretty rare that parasites
• 31:17
  are actually causing. Like the vast majority of cases probably are not caused by
• 31:22
  parasites, but there could be some. There could be some are caused by
• 31:26
  parasites and may benefit. So in the future we might see a more broad
• 31:32
  spectrum testing for parasites, just to see if that is a potential cause and
• 31:37
  a potential treatment. Yeah, who knows? Good to know? I mean,
• 31:41
  like I told you, and like I said at the beginning, I
• 31:45
  had zero knowledge, and now I feel like that's something else I can think
• 31:48
  about. And that's pretty cool. That's what we do here. We bring
• 31:52
  up stuff. We bring up random things. Now, at some point you
• 31:56
  could be trying to like flex some knowledge on your friends and you can say,
• 31:59
  hey, did you know parasites can do this? And you learned it
• 32:04
  from us? Well, you learned it from Justin. I was just here
• 32:06
  for the ride. But you're welcome. Yeah, you are welcome. Play
• 32:14
  us out man, Justin. It's been fun, my friend. I'll see
• 32:16
  you in two weeks. To our listeners, thank you again. I know
• 32:20
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• 32:22
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• 32:30
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