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- 0:01Today on the podcast, we're going to look at how to grow a
- 0:04fashion business. And of course, when we answer
- 0:07questions over here on the podcast, you know that I might
- 0:10be talking about one kind of business in particular, but you
- 0:13know, the principles apply to other businesses.
- 0:17So you can just remove fashion and put whatever your own
- 0:19business is and you'll see that it's going to apply as well.
- 0:23Now, apologies, this is going to be a noisy recording because I'm
- 0:27making the recording at home. You know, it's early in the
- 0:29morning, holidays are still on, so people moving about.
- 0:32So expect to hear some noise in the background.
- 0:36Now my name is Tavishima Ayedi, I'm a former lawyer turned
- 0:39business consultant. And if you like these sorts of
- 0:41things, then subscribe to the podcast on Spotify, YouTube,
- 0:45Apple, or any player of your choice so you can keep up with
- 0:48all this business goodness that we'll talk about over here,
- 0:51sales, marketing, those sorts of things.
- 0:54And let's see what else. Yeah.
- 0:57If you'd like to connect with me, then call, send me a text
- 0:59message or A1 type message on 08064662140.
- 1:06So today it's a very old question.
- 1:09I just saw my notes. So this is something that I
- 1:12should have spoken about on the podcast like months ago.
- 1:15But you know, somehow I lost the, I lost this paper.
- 1:19So I just, I just, I lost my set of notes.
- 1:21I just found them again. So anyway, don't worry.
- 1:24Eventually when I start making a bit more money that's from the
- 1:27podcast and consulting, I'll hire a full time production
- 1:30assistant so that I don't lose track of topics.
- 1:36So I think the question came from Emma, who is based in
- 1:42Abuja. She called on the radio show.
- 1:45I can't remember when in 2025 and I can't remember what part
- 1:48of Abuja she was calling from, but sure need to know how to
- 1:52grow a fashion business. And like I said, the principles
- 1:56that we're going to explore apply to any, any, any business.
- 2:01OK, Although a small warning, I mentioned on the radio, I've
- 2:06mentioned it here, but let me just mention it again for those
- 2:08of you who are discovering the podcast for the first time, you
- 2:11know, when it comes, when you're trying to send in a question,
- 2:13the more particular, the more specific the question is, the
- 2:16better. Because when you ask questions
- 2:18like how do I grow a fashion business or how do I grow a
- 2:20chicken business, or how do I grow an architectural business,
- 2:23or how do I grow a legal business?
- 2:25How do I grow a medical business?
- 2:27All those questions are very, very broad and they're very,
- 2:29very general. Answering the question is going
- 2:32to involve talking about things in a very general way.
- 2:35But my thing, my stick is I try to be very, very particular when
- 2:40I'm talking to people. I want to give advice that is
- 2:42going to meet a concrete situation and to give very clear
- 2:46next steps about what it is, you know, to do.
- 2:49So if you're descending the question, like I've been in
- 2:52fashion business for five years, these are the kind of clients I
- 2:56currently have, I've grown into this level, blah, blah, blah.
- 2:59I'm trying to take the next step in 2026 and my business partners
- 3:03and I think that we can do that by taking advantage of social,
- 3:08you know, how do I overcome this challenge?
- 3:09You know, that kind of question is very, very specific.
- 3:12You know, it's exciting for me and it's going to help lots of
- 3:15people because you might think your question is unique to you,
- 3:18but there are lots of people who are going through the same
- 3:20thing. For instance, I have been
- 3:24thinking I'm playing around traditional media and how we can
- 3:27use that to grow a business. That is the reason why I'm I'm
- 3:31on the radio and that's the reason why I'm trying to get ATV
- 3:33show. So like I'm trying to be famous.
- 3:36But I also think that too many of us have given up on
- 3:39traditional media too soon. And I think it works and I'm
- 3:42going to use my own business to validate that.
- 3:45Now, the more I talk about these things, I found out that there
- 3:47are other Nigerian business owners who agree as well and who
- 3:50are thinking about how to get the business on the radio, how
- 3:53to get the business on the TV. But you know, if I just stand
- 3:56inside my shell, I'll think, OK, I'm the only one who is thinking
- 4:00how can we take advantage of traditional media, not just
- 4:03social media to grow a business? So basically what I'm trying to
- 4:06say is when you're sending in your questions, you know, the
- 4:08more particular, the better, the more interesting it'll be for
- 4:12me. And you'll be surprised that
- 4:15lots of people are going to be able to relate to what it is
- 4:20that you're going through. And there'll be lots of
- 4:21applications for other people's businesses.
- 4:24OK, so how to grow a fashion business?
- 4:26Remember, this applies to any business, every business.
- 4:29And the reason why is because if you're going to grow your
- 4:31fashion business, you have to run through some simple
- 4:33frameworks that are, how do I say no required or that are
- 4:38necessary or that are normal for any business.
- 4:43Just some simple framework for growing a business.
- 4:46Now, the way that I like to break this down so it's not too
- 4:48hard to follow is think of business in an organic sense.
- 4:53You know, it has a beginning, a middle and an end.
- 4:55It has an early stage, a middle stage and a mature stage.
- 4:59Then in the early stage, obviously we are just starting.
- 5:05Your primary focus is just traction.
- 5:08Traction just means sales, revenue or adoption.
- 5:12I repeat, traction in the early days just means sales or revenue
- 5:16or adoption. So it just means how many people
- 5:19are buying my thing or how many people are using my thing.
- 5:24So in the early days, that is just all we're trying to do.
- 5:27Traction that is a focus. Then in the middle part of a
- 5:30business, the focus now becomes scale.
- 5:33Scale means a couple of people are now using this thing.
- 5:38How do we get more people to use this thing?
- 5:41So back to the fashion example in the beginning, attraction.
- 5:45So let's say you know, your friends, your family members,
- 5:48they're all on board. You've now established a name
- 5:51for yourself in your neighborhood.
- 5:53Scale will now be, you know, how do I reach out to other
- 5:57neighborhoods, other parts of the city, other states, you
- 6:01know, So scale is growing beyond where you currently are.
- 6:06Then maturity, that's when like, how will I put it?
- 6:10Now your business is a big boy, your business is a big girl.
- 6:14There's no other room to grow up per SE.
- 6:17So you're starting, you're now starting to use strategy to see
- 6:20how you can move into other spaces.
- 6:23So like Coca-Cola, for instance, you know, they are mature
- 6:26business, you know, like how much more Coke can they sell
- 6:30really realistically speaking. So what Coca-Cola is now doing
- 6:33is they're branching off into other things.
- 6:35You buy another brand, You buy another drink.
- 6:39You buy another this, You collaborate with another person
- 6:42so that you have access, you know, to newer markets.
- 6:44But it's not as if Coca-Cola can, you know, drastically,
- 6:47like, grow their sales from 2025 to 2026.
- 6:51You know, they don't mature. They're a big company now.
- 6:53They're all over the place. Sahara Desert, you'll find Coke.
- 6:56My father's village, you'll find Coke.
- 6:58Your mother's village, you'll find Coke.
- 7:00Everywhere you'll find Coke. If Atlantis was real, you know,
- 7:04if we go to Atlantis, we'll find coke.
- 7:06So that business is not mature. So the only way for them to grow
- 7:10now is, you know, sideways. You know, you look to your left,
- 7:12look to your right, your right name would be expand, small,
- 7:15small. So stages of business growth,
- 7:19remember beginner middle and end, early middle, mature, you
- 7:24know, whichever way you want to look at each other.
- 7:26And the focus always is traction, scale or strategy as
- 7:30you grow. So now what you need to grow
- 7:35your fashion business or your whatever business depends on
- 7:37what stage that you are in. Are you in the early stage?
- 7:41We're going to be looking at ways of getting traction so that
- 7:44we go move. Let's get this thing moving.
- 7:47Let's get the blood pumping. Let's get the thing flowing.
- 7:50Are you in the middle stage? No problem.
- 7:52Growing the fashion brand will now mean how do you scale then
- 7:57if you're in a much more mature stage, then the focus is going
- 8:02to be on how you can get come up with different strategies for
- 8:10growing or expanding a mature business.
- 8:14So the answer to the question how to grow your fashion
- 8:16business will depend on what stage are you at, what do you
- 8:22need. So like I said at the top of the
- 8:25episode in the early days, traction, that's what we're
- 8:28trying to do. Traction or validation.
- 8:31Validation just means the market likes my idea, the market
- 8:35appreciates this idea, There's demand for this idea, There is a
- 8:38need for this idea. So we can achieve that either by
- 8:43sales or like I said, adoption. So sales revenue just means
- 8:47people like it. People are paying for it and
- 8:50they pay for it. They pay enough so that there's
- 8:54a little bit leftover to plow back into the business and so
- 8:56you can flex as well. Then adoption, especially for
- 9:00those of you who are in the tech space, adoption just means, you
- 9:04know, people are using your stuff.
- 9:05So back to the usual people that everybody talks about,
- 9:09Zuckerberg Dem. So in the early days, for
- 9:11Zuckerberg Dem, there was no question of revenue.
- 9:13It was a question of adoption. OK, so this fancy app that you
- 9:16have, how many people are using it?
- 9:20So in the beginning, I think Zuckerberg, I, I think it's a
- 9:25Harvard boy. I can't remember anyway, so
- 9:26let's just assume he's a Harvard boy.
- 9:28I'll be, he's a Stanford boy, OK?
- 9:30I think it's Stanford. But anyway, for those of you who
- 9:32know, when you reach out, correct me.
- 9:34So in the beginning, they start this thing, how many people in
- 9:37the faculty are using it? How many people in the
- 9:39department are using it? How many people in the universe
- 9:42in the whole university are using it?
- 9:44Then the business starts to grow.
- 9:47They are able to reach out to other campuses, other
- 9:50universities, because in the early days, well, Facebook was
- 9:53mostly a was most mostly a college thing, mostly a
- 9:57university thing. So that was the level of
- 9:59traction in the faculty. How many people in the
- 10:02department, how many people where we have Concord, Stanford,
- 10:04how we go into Harvard, OK, we don't conquer Harvard.
- 10:07How we expand to this place, how we expand here, how we expand,
- 10:10expand, expand on T even or buffer me at Willow University.
- 10:15That's my own university at the time.
- 10:17You know, eventually you enter over you.
- 10:19But by then, of course, Facebook was kind of like global, but
- 10:22progress was not being measured on how much money are you making
- 10:25was being measured in how much adoption are you getting?
- 10:28How many people are using this thing every day?
- 10:30How many people every week? How many people every month?
- 10:33How many people every quarter? How many people?
- 10:35So in the early days, that's how we will judge traction.
- 10:38So traction validation and we're looking for sales or we're
- 10:43looking for adoption. Now in the early days, you got
- 10:46to go your fashion business or you got to go your whatever
- 10:48business. What you need is effort.
- 10:52Effort just means physical worker and we can't run away
- 10:55from that. So for Zuckerberg, them, you
- 10:57know, physical worker is involved.
- 11:00You tell one or two people, you send one or two message, you
- 11:03share the link, there's some efforts, there's some hustle
- 11:07that is involved. So the same thing to grow your
- 11:11fashion business. If you're in the early stage, we
- 11:14can't run away from the fact that effort, physical effort is
- 11:17required. Now, the problem is lots of
- 11:19people are trying to sidestep this thing.
- 11:20You want to grow your fashion business, but you want to stay
- 11:22inside the house. You actually don't want to talk
- 11:25to your uncles and aunties to say uncle.
- 11:27You know, I'm starting, I appreciate the support.
- 11:31Introduce me to one or two people.
- 11:32You don't want to go and talk to your auntie and say auntie, I
- 11:34started introduce me to one or two people.
- 11:36You don't want to go and talk to your neighbors to say neighbor.
- 11:40This is what I do see. This thing is necessary.
- 11:43Like when we moved into our neighborhood, really nice lady
- 11:45downstairs, you know, within two or three days she told me that
- 11:49you know how far, you know how they sell palm oil.
- 11:52She told me straight up, and that's how you grow your
- 11:54business. In the early days, you're a
- 11:56trader in palm oil. You make sure all your neighbors
- 11:58know that you trade in palm oil. And then you know, small, buy
- 12:02small, buy small. Even if our neighbor doesn't
- 12:04buy, one day a neighbor might jam somebody and the person
- 12:07might be complaining that I'm tired of buying palm oil from
- 12:10the market. The price is not good, the
- 12:12quality is not good. They say, my neighbor does
- 12:14wholesale. Maybe I can have, you know,
- 12:16maybe I hook you up. You can buy from her.
- 12:19They say, Are you sure? Say yes now because she, she
- 12:21sells big, big, she sells 25 litres, 50 litres, you know, so
- 12:26that's how things move. So at the beginning, effort,
- 12:29physical effort, we can't run away from it.
- 12:31And that's why I always talk about friends, family members
- 12:34and associates. They'll be the easiest class of
- 12:37people to talk to because you know, these are people that you
- 12:39already know. You know they love you, they
- 12:41respect you, they support you. So too many of them will not
- 12:44reject you. So it's a good way to get this
- 12:47thing going. Start talking to friends, start
- 12:49talking to family members, start talking to associates.
- 12:52Whether you're growing the fashion business, whether you're
- 12:56growing the tech startup, whether you're growing the palm
- 12:59wine, I say palm wine, palm oil business, even palm wine
- 13:02business first, you know, but we can in the early days, we can't
- 13:06get rid of this effort or the physical part.
- 13:10Now, I know we're all trying to avoid doing hard work, but don't
- 13:13worry, that time will come. So now Zuckerberg is not doing
- 13:16physical, physical, He's not going, he's not going to
- 13:19networking meetings again, he's not talking to people again,
- 13:22he's not sharing the link again, you know, blah, blah, blah.
- 13:24You know, so things have changed.
- 13:27But we all pass with that stage where physical effort is
- 13:32required when you're talking to people, when you're sending
- 13:35messages, where you're visiting people, where you're booking
- 13:37meetings, where you're doing this, where you're doing that.
- 13:39And so we can't run away from it to grow your fashion business.
- 13:44If you're in the early stage or any other business, remember,
- 13:50even though we're talking fashion, I'm trying to show how
- 13:53these simple frameworks apply to any business.
- 13:57Then at this early stage when we're focused on effort, we,
- 14:02it's not just effort for the sake of effort or we're trying
- 14:06to make sure that we're doing the right things and we're doing
- 14:09them in the right quantity. So like this and I said, now
- 14:12friends, family members and associates, if you're not using
- 14:15common sense and talking to people who might need your
- 14:18product or service or people who might introduce you to someone
- 14:21else who needs your product or your service, then you know of
- 14:24what does it profit you? So we're trying to do plenty of
- 14:29legwork or back work or phone work or whatever work, but I
- 14:34want to make sure that we're doing the right thing.
- 14:35I want to make sure that we're doing it in the right quantity.
- 14:37So let me go back to the example of my neighbor and the palm oil.
- 14:42Now I've seen now talk to other people.
- 14:43So I know she has spoken to everybody.
- 14:45And then in this estate, hundreds of families, if she
- 14:49only told two people I'm in the palm oil business, that business
- 14:53can't take off. It can't because talking to two
- 14:56or three people, like what kind of magic are you expecting?
- 15:00Then one person will come and buy 1000 litres from you.
- 15:02Then maybe another person will come and buy 10,000 litres from
- 15:04you and then you hammer, you're now a big palm oil merchant.
- 15:11No, it doesn't work like that. So volume.
- 15:13So in her own case, since there are hundreds of families in this
- 15:16estate, it makes sense that she's talking to 1 after another
- 15:20after another after another. If you use like 5-6 months, you
- 15:24live in an estate where there are 500 houses and you talk to
- 15:26all 500 houses. I mean, surely, surely, even if
- 15:31it's only 5-6 houses, at least you'll start getting small
- 15:34business and things will start to move.
- 15:36So we're doing the right kind of action, but we have to do it in
- 15:39the right quantity. And that's a mistake people make
- 15:42when they start. They don't know about this
- 15:44quantity thing. So there's some of you who are
- 15:46very good fashion stylists, fashion designers, tailors, you
- 15:49know, whatever, but you know, you started.
- 15:52But The thing is you only told three or four of your cousins.
- 15:54I only told two people at work and then you told your pastor
- 15:57and then that's it. So from the beginning of the
- 16:01year, for the last four or five months, you've only told eight
- 16:03people. There's no way your business is
- 16:04going to grow because you've told eight people.
- 16:07So you have to be more. You have to become a maniac when
- 16:10it comes to talking about your fashion business.
- 16:14So don't just talk to four or five of your cousins.
- 16:16Tell all your cousins. I finally graduated.
- 16:20I've got my shop I have started. Make sure all your cousins know,
- 16:24especially your female cousins, because boys don't soak lot.
- 16:29Then make sure all your uncles and aunties know.
- 16:31Make sure mummy and daddy know that you've started.
- 16:34And then guilt trip your dad. Tell him, you know, please
- 16:37introduce me to some of your friends.
- 16:39Guilt trip mumsy Mummy, am I not your child again?
- 16:42Blah blah, blah. You don't like me.
- 16:43You don't like my progress, you know.
- 16:45Yeah, I introduce you to a couple of people, but you have
- 16:48to be an absolute maniac. Effort is required.
- 16:50The more people you talk to, the better.
- 16:52I mean, think about it. Why do you think I'm making this
- 16:54podcast? I'm trying to talk to a billion
- 16:56people. If a billion people know my name
- 16:58and a billion people have my phone number, surely, surely you
- 17:00don't think I'm going to be a big boy.
- 17:02That's it. Doing the right thing at the
- 17:04right scale. So you need, you need to have
- 17:06that same kind of mindset as well.
- 17:08So the more people that we can talk to, the better then.
- 17:13OK, Now another big question that we have to consider.
- 17:17So excuse me, I'm recovering from a cold.
- 17:19So another question that we have to consider is who's the ICP?
- 17:22That's the ideal customer profile, the customer avatar,
- 17:26the target audience to whatever it is you call it.
- 17:28Now, this one reason why this is a very big question when it
- 17:31comes to sales and business development is I'll upload it.
- 17:36If you don't know who you're supposed to be chasing,
- 17:38basically you're going to waste a lot of time, a lot of money, a
- 17:41lot of effort, a lot of, you know, spiritual mojo, A lot of
- 17:45you're just going to be running from pillar to post.
- 17:47I'm not achieving anything because you're running all over
- 17:49the place and chasing the wrong people.
- 17:52Chasing the wrong people. Like back in uni was this friend
- 17:55of mine, let's call him Shawn. Shawn wanted a Good Wife.
- 18:00He wanted the Maria Maka, but Shawn was in the habit of only
- 18:03chasing after club chicks. I repeat, Shawn said he wanted a
- 18:08Good Wife. He said he wanted the Maria
- 18:11Maka, but Shawn was in the habit of running after club chicks.
- 18:15Now, some of you are already laughing, and you can see that
- 18:17Shawn was confused because if you're only hanging out with
- 18:20club chicks, how you find Maria Maka.
- 18:23So I'd have a conversation with my guy one day.
- 18:26I told you, I look, I show yourself.
- 18:28You're not being serious. They say, how say you want your
- 18:31wife? You know, I said yes, no.
- 18:32And the kind of baby you want is Miriam Maker.
- 18:34I say yes, I say, and every day you're in the club and you're
- 18:36hanging out with all these club chicks that even if there's a
- 18:38Miriam Maker that likes you, how would she approach you?
- 18:41She'll be afraid. Now look at all these girls
- 18:43around you. See their eyes, see their nails,
- 18:45see their skin, see their teeth, see everything.
- 18:49Miriam Maker will be afraid that these girls will tear out to
- 18:52pieces. So she would say, I like, she
- 18:54was a nice guy, you know, maybe that's my husband.
- 18:56But she would stay where she is so that Jessie Bell won't come
- 18:59and tear her eyes. So that's what ICP is all about.
- 19:04Who's your ideal customer? Who's your ideal audience?
- 19:06You know where you're heading. If you want to marry Maria Maca,
- 19:09don't be hanging out in the club, be hanging out in the
- 19:12church. So see, that's how it's related.
- 19:15Once you know who your ideal audience is, you now know where
- 19:18to hang out. You now know where to start
- 19:19chasing people. So whether it's a startup,
- 19:23whether it's a fashion business, whether it is Palmoy, whether it
- 19:27is consulting business, whether it's architecture or whatever it
- 19:30is, we all have to sit down and ask ourselves that question.
- 19:33At the end of the day, who is the ideal audience?
- 19:36Who is the ideal customer? Because that determines the next
- 19:38course of action. You want to marry Miriam Maka,
- 19:41the next source of action is. Start going for weekly service,
- 19:44start going for Sunday service. If you want to marry a Jezebel,
- 19:48the next source of action is start going to the club.
- 19:52So it's the same thing you want to start on fashion business.
- 19:56What kind of fashion business are you starting?
- 19:58If it's for senior women, you know in the civil service
- 20:02because you're looking for women have big, big money.
- 20:04You know you want to only be swimming for prime sex and
- 20:05things like that. Very good.
- 20:07Now you know your ideal audiences will now start coming
- 20:10up with a plan where do women who are big big women in the.
- 20:14Ministries in the civil service, bank executives, where do these
- 20:17women hang out? Where can I find these women?
- 20:19How can I get those introductions?
- 20:21So you can see that once you know who the ICP is, your ideal
- 20:24audiences, the next set of things start becoming clearer
- 20:28and clearer and clearer. And that's the reason why this
- 20:29is a cardinal question. If you want to grow your fashion
- 20:32business or your palm oil business or your palm oil
- 20:34business or your consulting business or your laundry
- 20:38business or whatever, we have to start with this question.
- 20:43So there's one of my clients who wanted to break into the fashion
- 20:48space. Was it?
- 20:50No, no, fashion wasn't weddings. Sorry, this was a long time ago.
- 20:53OK, well, not that long. This was 2024 ish into 2025.
- 21:00And so for him in particular, to answer the question on the ideal
- 21:05customer profile, we started talking about the people that he
- 21:08wanted, he wanted to do work with.
- 21:11And of course, he said he wants to work with Rich Abu Jabebs.
- 21:14Of course, we had to laugh about that.
- 21:16And you know, that was fine by me in the beginning because
- 21:19sometimes to narrow things down is hard.
- 21:22So well, at least I got one statement, reach Abu Jabebs.
- 21:25OK, no problem. We start narrowing it down,
- 21:27small, small, small, asking more questions.
- 21:29Then we also looked at his trading history.
- 21:32Who are the people that you have done business with them so far?
- 21:35And then we figured out a couple of things that he has done some
- 21:38business with Rich Abuja babes and those rich Abuja babes was
- 21:42because his sister introduced him to three of her friends and
- 21:47those ones made a few introductions.
- 21:50And so in his own case, I was like OK, the entry level, the
- 21:54entry path is now clear or clear.
- 21:57Ish. Yes, rich Abuja babes and there
- 22:00are lots of fancy ideas that we can come up with, but in this
- 22:03case, friends or family members and associates, you can see that
- 22:07because you're ready from certain family and ready in a
- 22:10certain class and your sister already has certain kinds of
- 22:12friends. Let's continue.
- 22:14Let's get into this thing. So you have a conversation.
- 22:17Big sis, this thing I'm doing, it's not a hobby anymore.
- 22:21I'm going full time. I like, I've made-up my mind
- 22:24this law degree. I know they do it again, I've
- 22:26already told Popsy. So it's fashion all the way.
- 22:28So sis, I beg those three friends you introduced to me.
- 22:33Thanks, I really appreciate it. Everything went well, blah,
- 22:36blah, blah. You can make a couple more
- 22:38introductions. I really like that.
- 22:39So you know, that's the scope, but you can see how we need to
- 22:43ask ourselves all these questions then let's see.
- 22:52OK, then with him in particular, we came up with a plan for
- 22:59referrals. Yeah, for referrals.
- 23:01Yes. Sorry, forgive me.
- 23:02Sometimes I can't remember my own handwriting.
- 23:04My handwriting is like chicken is really atrocious handwriting.
- 23:07Is that course I Well, no course, but should I say course?
- 23:10OK, let me go on the course. Handwriting was that course in
- 23:13primary school that I really, really hated.
- 23:15I loved other things. But then this will sit down and
- 23:17copy letter A letter B number one, number two number three.
- 23:20I really, really hated that. Detested it.
- 23:23Well, anyway, what was I? OK, so referral strategy.
- 23:30So as part of the referral strategy, we had to make sure
- 23:34that, well, first of all, I had to get my guy on the phones.
- 23:37I wasn't very comfortable being on the phones, but you know,
- 23:40half of do remember what I said in the beginning.
- 23:43Then in the early stage, effort is required, some physical
- 23:46effort. Unfortunately for some of you,
- 23:48the effort means picking up the phone because picking up the
- 23:51phone is a lot cheaper than trying to go from house to house
- 23:53to house. So it involves picking up the
- 23:56phone for him to call those first three people like his
- 24:00sister hooked him up with and the other people that those
- 24:03people hooked him up with to call.
- 24:05And be sure that everybody is happy and that there is no
- 24:09problem, that all the things he sold are still fine and that
- 24:13everybody slayed well. And do some small talk.
- 24:16In fact, you know, maybe even get the Instagram handle so you
- 24:18can see the photos live and direct pay them a few
- 24:20compliments and everybody's looking nice and everything.
- 24:24Eventually you'll be able to slide to that stage where you
- 24:26tell them that you appreciate their support.
- 24:28And then this is where you ask for the referral.
- 24:31Since what he had done for his sister's friends was wedding
- 24:34garments. OK, I think it was wedding
- 24:36garments for two. The last one, I can't remember
- 24:38what. Then the referrals from that I
- 24:40can't remember what, you know, ask.
- 24:42Do you have any friends who are, you know, XYZ for the ones that
- 24:45he sold wedding cloth? Do you have any friends who are
- 24:47getting married anytime soon? That is the referral you're
- 24:50trying to ask for. Very specific for the one that
- 24:53he sold the suit and suit, you know of his clothes.
- 24:57That will be the thing, you know, do you know any of your
- 24:59friends who are trying to get the wardrobe overhaul or who are
- 25:02looking for good three piece suits like what I made for you?
- 25:05You know, he asked specifically so you get a referral so you can
- 25:08see that you are growing your fashion business.
- 25:11In his own case, using the efforts, strategy and thought
- 25:18part thought patterns that are relevant to the context in which
- 25:23he is now. Now, he won't always have to be
- 25:25doing this, but in the early days, it's important.
- 25:30You can't run away from it then, OK.
- 25:32Also mention that he would also have to call his sister because
- 25:37remember in the beginning, friends, family members and
- 25:39associates, not because he's the best, but because they love us.
- 25:42They want to see us succeed. So they will support us.
- 25:46They won't tell us no. Or if they're telling us no,
- 25:48they will tell us no in a very soft way.
- 25:50And another reason why, excuse me, why I say friends, family
- 25:55members. Sorry about that.
- 25:57So another reason why I say friends, family members and
- 25:59associates is because it's a nice way for us to come up with
- 26:02our selling framework. The selling framework is just
- 26:04the script, the framework, the pattern, the formula, the
- 26:08whatever for how you identify people, how you approach them,
- 26:12how you start the conversation, how you figure out what they
- 26:15need, how you make a proposal, how you make a presentation, how
- 26:19you prize, how you negotiate, how you haggle.
- 26:21So if you're doing all of this with friends, family members and
- 26:24associates, it's a good, nice, easy practice.
- 26:27So by the time you're talking to total strangers, you have
- 26:30already ironed that stage out because believe me, it's
- 26:33frightening and very it's frightening, it's nerve
- 26:37wracking. And it's also very inefficient
- 26:40for you to be using total strangers to be figuring out all
- 26:43these questions. The how do I greet people?
- 26:45Do I say what's up? Do I say hello?
- 26:47Do I say good morning? How do I make a proposal?
- 26:53How do I make a presentation? Is it physical presentation?
- 26:56I'll go and show my garments or is it that I'll send LinkedIn?
- 26:59So I say LinkedIn, is it that I'll send Instagram picture or
- 27:02will I send them a link to your profile?
- 27:04So it's inefficient, it's nerve racking, it's not the best.
- 27:08They're using total strangers to figure out these sorts of
- 27:10questions. Use your friends, your family
- 27:11members to figure out all these things.
- 27:14You know they don't mind. In fact, some of them will help
- 27:16you. So like in my own early days, I
- 27:18remember mom's even asking me some very, very hard questions.
- 27:23What about this, what you do about this, what you do about
- 27:26that? That was because it was mumsy.
- 27:29It was a total stranger. And I'm fumbling.
- 27:31The stranger was just think these guys are an idiot.
- 27:34And then the guy will pick my cough.
- 27:36But friends, Family members? And associates.
- 27:38They will help you. So.
- 27:41Where was I? OK, now.
- 27:44For this friend of mine, this for my client, well, now he's a
- 27:49friend. The guy, of course, he comes
- 27:51from a certain family. So the guy has some small
- 27:53change. So next thing we started looking
- 27:55at advertising on Instagram, putting out old photos.
- 28:00Then the questions of targeting was really, really important
- 28:03because anytime you're doing online advertising, you want to
- 28:05make sure that you're targeting is on point.
- 28:08If your advert is being shown to the wrong class of people, you
- 28:11are not going to make any sales from it at all, at all, at all,
- 28:16at all. So the question of targeting was
- 28:18really, really important. And then, OK, a call to action,
- 28:23because when you're putting out promoting and boosting posts on
- 28:26Instagram, your call to action is really important.
- 28:28Call to action just means what do you want people to do next
- 28:31after they look at your post, after they consume this content,
- 28:35after the whatever? Lots of people make mistakes and
- 28:38I made this mistake as well. When it comes to advertising or
- 28:41boosting or promoting on Instagram, you just so back to
- 28:45the fashion thing. You make a pretty dress and then
- 28:48you run a Facebook advertisement or you boost the post, but it's
- 28:54just a pretty dress, nothing else.
- 28:57I made that mistake lots. Of people make that mistake.
- 29:01You're just advertising a pretty dress.
- 29:03At the end of it, there should be a call to action.
- 29:05Write some small story, you know, beautiful black corseted
- 29:08something something something, make your wedding day fabulous,
- 29:11blah blah blah blah blah, and then call to action At Abdul
- 29:16Taylors and Associates, you know, we do our best to make
- 29:18your wedding day, you know, fantastic.
- 29:20If you want to slay, if you want to glow, if you want to,
- 29:23whatever, you know, click the link below, slide into the DM
- 29:27right high in the comment section.
- 29:29You know something? It has to be.
- 29:32A call to action to get the engagement going, because it's
- 29:36from the engagement that you're going to be able to, you'll get
- 29:38the opportunity to have conversations that might close,
- 29:41that might close into potential sales.
- 29:45So if the call to action is if you love this dress and you
- 29:48would love a free consultation to see if this suits your body
- 29:52shape or whatever, click right high in the comments section
- 29:56below. And then 50 babes click high.
- 29:58All you do is from the people. Sorry, I said click 50 babes
- 30:02right high from the hi, hi, hi. You can slide into their DM and
- 30:06then you start some conversations from there.
- 30:09Some people come to the studio or to your fashion shop or
- 30:13tailor shop or whatever it is. You guys call your your spaces.
- 30:17So OK, yeah, let me just stop here.
- 30:21And you see, this is the problem with general questions.
- 30:23We can keep coming up with general ideas over and over and
- 30:26over and over. And you know, it never stops.
- 30:28So if you're going to send in the question, the more
- 30:30particular the better. But summary, if you're going to
- 30:33grow a fashion business, if you're going to grow a palm oil
- 30:34business, palm oil business, consulting business, any kind of
- 30:38business, it's it's very simple. There are very simple frameworks
- 30:44for business growth. There's no ultimate framework
- 30:47because it depends, are you on early stage business?
- 30:49Are you in the middle or you're a mature business?
- 30:52So it depends. Mature people like Coca-Cola,
- 30:54the strategies and tactics they're using are different
- 30:57people in the middle, let's say like, OK, let me say like
- 31:00Chloe's cupcakes in Abuja. They do cupcakes.
- 31:05Birthday cakes, you know, stuff like that.
- 31:07I think they have locations in Abuja and Lagos.
- 31:10So let's say those ones, they're in the middle.
- 31:11So now it's a question of scale. How do you grow from Abuja and
- 31:14Lagos And now enter Abukuta, enter Ibador, enter Port
- 31:18Harcourt, you know, so let's say those are the middle stage, then
- 31:23early stage. You're just starting the fashion
- 31:25business, you've got your sewing machine, you've got your shop in
- 31:29Wusetu on Leckie or whatever, you've opened up and you're not
- 31:33worried. OK, how can I get people through
- 31:35the door? So as the early stage, the focus
- 31:37now is traction. Traction just means sales.
- 31:40It means revenue, it means people saying yes, it means
- 31:43people transferring deposits. And then of course, if you're in
- 31:46the software space, early traction, you know, could mean
- 31:49adoption. How many people are using, how
- 31:51many people are clicking, how many people are downloading, how
- 31:54many people are signing in? So that's it.
- 31:58But I guess the biggest thing I just wanted to pass.
- 32:03Across today was this whole. Thing of if you're on early
- 32:07stage, unfortunately physical effort is required.
- 32:13We can't run away from it. Too many of you are starting
- 32:16your fashion businesses like people calling off on the radio
- 32:20and they think that just because you bought the shop and you
- 32:23bought the machine and you put the Billboard outside that then
- 32:27business will flow to you. Sorry, it's not like that.
- 32:30You have to go and talk to one or two people.
- 32:33If you have money, place. One or two adverts, create one
- 32:35or two Flyers, whatever it is that work for your situation,
- 32:39but there is going to be some physical effort that is
- 32:41required. So let's stop feeling as if we
- 32:45can just buy the shop space to start the fashion business and
- 32:49then the rest will take care of itself.
- 32:51It's not like that. It was like that would all be
- 32:52billionaires because me too, or I've just bought a shop And then
- 32:55I'll just put a sign outside that says establishing my
- 32:57consulting. And then I see class, you just
- 32:59be rushing me. Just be rushing me.
- 33:01So it doesn't work that way. So physical effort is required.
- 33:05Let's not shy away from hard work.
- 33:07Let's just make sure that we're doing the right things.
- 33:08So that's it. So thank you very much for your
- 33:11time and attention. Remember, if you'd love to
- 33:13connect with me, the name is Establish my IUD.
- 33:15You'll find me on LinkedIn. You can call send me a text
- 33:18message or WhatsApp message on 08064 662140.
- 33:26What else? Yeah, I think that's.
- 33:29It remember to subscribe to the podcast.
- 33:31I'll catch you all some other time.