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Holistic Menopause Healing: Insights from Medical Intuitive Katie Beecher · The Menopause Disruptor Podcast

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Katie Beecher: That is a bunch of crap because it's about our quality of life and not just getting through something in, in an unpleasant way.
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Katie Beecher: Like why do we have to suffer?
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Katie Beecher: So, and also listening to your body, your intuition, being like, I don't have worry so much about taking care of kids anymore or what people think anymore, Mm-hmm.
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Katie Beecher: So it's such a freeing time.
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Katie Beecher: And I work with people who.
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Katie Beecher: Don't really know themselves, haven't really set boundaries, have taken care of everybody else, all their life.
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Katie Beecher: And now they're like, I wanna live differently and maybe get outta my dumb marriage that I've been in for a while, or change jobs or whatever.
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Katie Beecher: But it's just, you're, it's never too late, to find your way.
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Katie Beecher: And if you piss a few people off along the way, oh well,
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Mary Lee: Welcome back, my listeners.
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Mary Lee: Today I'm joined by the incredible Katie Beecher.
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Mary Lee: She's a medical and a spiritual intuitive, a licensed professional counselor, and internationally recognized healer whose work has been featured in Goop, poosh Miranda Kerr's blog Coast to Coast am.
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Mary Lee: Bloom TV and so many more.
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Mary Lee: She has over 35 years of experience and more than 200 features across media, podcasts and summits.
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Mary Lee: Katie is known for her unique intuitive readings.
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Mary Lee: Where she creates a detailed four page report and a stunning, intuitive soul painting, knowing only the person's name and age.
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Mary Lee: Let me tell you, I was absolutely fascinated with this skill, and we will get into it.
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Mary Lee: In this episode, Katie brings a powerful blend of science, intuition, and lived experience to her work, and in this podcast, you're going to hear her story, her awakening.
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Mary Lee: since then, she's helped countless people address the root cause of illness and emotional distress, drawing upon her own profound healing journey Now she's age 60.
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Mary Lee: And she's not only a champion for midlife vitality.
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Mary Lee: Listen to this.
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Mary Lee: She's also a two time national champion, pole and aerial athlete.
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Mary Lee: So incredible.
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Mary Lee: And she has been breaking down stereotypes about aging, menopause, and feminine strength.
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Mary Lee: Wow.
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Mary Lee: Love it.
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Mary Lee: Her bestselling book Heal From Within A Guide to Intuitive Wellness, offers us the reader's grounded research-backed approach to intuitive healing and self-discovery.
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Mary Lee: Katie's story and her work are a beautiful reminder that healing is both an art and a practice of deep listening, listening to our bodies, our intuition, and our soul's truth.
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Mary Lee: I can't wait for you to hear her story.
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Mary Lee: Please join me in welcoming Katie Beecher to the Menopause Disruptive Podcast.
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Mary: Katie.
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Katie Beecher: Thank you so much for having me.
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Katie Beecher: I'm very excited.
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Mary: So much, so much to unpack.
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Mary: let's begin.
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Mary: I always love to begin being a true communicator that I was for over 24 years in pr.
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Mary: I always like to begin with a person's backstory.
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Katie Beecher: Certainly So I've always been able to know that there was something more than what we can see and hear.
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Katie Beecher: Even as a very young child, I would hear voices in my head and be able to communicate with animals and know what other people were thinking.
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Katie Beecher: I had this BS meter especially with a pretty dysfunctional family and being like, this is not okay and this isn't real.
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Katie Beecher: And thankfully I felt like I had some guidance along the way, even like at three.
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Katie Beecher: And so really empathic and sensitive and all the things that are annoying and also cool and around when I was 16.
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Katie Beecher: I was in the throes of an eating disorder, really, really bad, throwing up three times a day,
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Mary: Oh
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Katie Beecher: suicidal just had had it with the whole thing.
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Katie Beecher: And I came home from school and decided to call our pediatrician without telling my parents at all, because they wouldn't have been any help.
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Katie Beecher: And I said, I am making myself throw up and I need help.
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Katie Beecher: And it was 1983, so no one really talked about eating disorders then.
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Katie Beecher: But, and he said you'll probably be fine, blah, blah, blah.
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Katie Beecher: And I said, no, definitely, definitely not fine.
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Katie Beecher: But he hooked me up with a youngian psychologist and young stuff is all about spirituality and intuition and self-love and symbolism and all the cool things that I had in my life already, but didn't know what to do with.
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Katie Beecher: So worked really hard and learned how to do a lot of the things that I teach in my book.
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Katie Beecher: Like, talk to your body and talk to your guides and find self-love and look at the messages behind your symptoms and how to befriend your disorders and all kinds of good stuff.
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Katie Beecher: And, I didn't really know what to do with being a medium or an intuitive, but I always worked really intuitively in my sessions because I came a, became a licensed counselor shortly right after you.
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Katie Beecher: I got my, bachelor's in master's and eventually the abilities became stronger and stronger and I couldn't really, I didn't have them.
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Katie Beecher: And so I started working as a medical intuitive.
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Katie Beecher: It's not just medical, it's physical, emotional, and spiritual.
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Katie Beecher: So I really tune into the whole person and with just a name and an age, I create a four page report really detailed about a person's entire life.
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Katie Beecher: So it's.
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Katie Beecher: Childhood and career and relationships and intuitive abilities and physical stuff and emotional stuff and trauma and all the things.
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Katie Beecher: And then I also create an intuitive soul painting.
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Katie Beecher: Which is symbolic way of showing what's going on in people's bodies and their energy fields.
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Katie Beecher: And so yeah, I'm really fortunate to be doing this work and love talking about menopause because it's so important and para menopause and all the things.
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Katie Beecher: And I'm 60.
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Katie Beecher: So I told my doctor that they're going to take my hormones outta my cold dead hands.
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Mary: My gosh, I can take this in a million directions, but the first one that comes to mind and true to the name of this podcast, menopause Disruptor, just exactly how bridging clinical psychology and medical intuitive counseling.
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Mary: Into disrupting the status quo of the medical interventions that have been out there to treat women or not.
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Mary: 'cause let's face it, we have been outright dismissed and ignored in research.
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Mary: does the work you do totally disrupt the status quo?
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Katie Beecher: I love talking about this and also just the concept of aging and age stereotypes and all those things, right?
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Katie Beecher: So I'm pretty.
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Katie Beecher: Disruptive myself so I am, I'm 60, as I said.
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Katie Beecher: I am a a pole sport athlete and I do aerial arts and I've won two national championships on pole.
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Mary: Fantastic.
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Katie Beecher: Right.
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Katie Beecher: Started six years ago.
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Katie Beecher: I love it.
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Katie Beecher: It's the best thing I've ever done for myself.
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Katie Beecher: I couldn't do anything when I started.
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Katie Beecher: So people who think, yeah, I've been good at this my whole life.
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Katie Beecher: No, not at all.
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Katie Beecher: And it's just so empowering because I feel better about my body than ever.
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Katie Beecher: I feel better about myself coming from an eating disorder background.
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Katie Beecher: I have to wear basically bikini to, to stick to the pole or I fall on my head and die.
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Katie Beecher: So.
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Katie Beecher: I had to get over that really quickly and it's so fun to be in classes with people half my age or less than that and be able to inspire them.
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Katie Beecher: Like age doesn't matter, so just by the way, I live my life.
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Katie Beecher: I like to be a disruptor.
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Katie Beecher: But so much of health, especially women's health, emotional and spiritual and spiritual and physical.
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Katie Beecher: Is holistic and it's, it should be from a root cause perspective and.
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Katie Beecher: With women, especially menopausal stuff, it's sort of like, well if you're not having hot flashes, you're fine.
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Katie Beecher: If you're not having symptoms, you are just fine and you don't really need a sex drive anymore.
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Katie Beecher: You you, don't need to have any energy or enjoy life or it's just menopause is just something you get through and I'm like.
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Katie Beecher: That is a bunch of crap because it's about our quality of life and not just getting through something in, in an unpleasant way.
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Katie Beecher: Like why do we have to suffer?
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Katie Beecher: So, and also listening to your body, your intuition, being like, I don't have worry so much about taking care of kids anymore or what people think anymore, so it's such a freeing time.
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Katie Beecher: And I work with people who.
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Katie Beecher: Don't really know themselves, haven't really set boundaries, have taken care of everybody else, all their life.
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Katie Beecher: And now they're like, I wanna live differently and maybe get outta my dumb marriage that I've been in for a while, or change jobs or whatever.
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Katie Beecher: But it's just, you're, it's never too late to find your way.
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Katie Beecher: And if you piss a few people off along the way, oh well.
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Mary: it's been coined by, Ayurvedic practitioners and two things about the menopausal transition.
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Mary: One, it's the time of the great reveal.
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Mary: This is a common thread that's in my podcast episodes and that what we have not dealt with.
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Mary: Let's face it, women are good at pretending masking sh shelving away and putting everybody else first, so we can avoid taking care of ourselves.
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Mary: And so they'll come to bear because estrogen leaves the body, which is that great protective.
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Mary: Mechanism.
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Mary: And then two, Ayurveda says that it's the age of wisdom, a time to truly get to know our bodies.
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Mary: And I love how you coin that.
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Mary: It's not just the physical body, but it's the, uh, energetic body, the emotional body, the spiritual body, the intuitive body.
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Mary: and so it's that time to really get to know who we are on all planes of existence, if you will.
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Mary: So let's talk about the work that you do with women to help them comfortable with some of these woowoo concepts, for lack of a better terminology, like spirituality and tapping into what's already there to heal within.
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Mary: How do you work with your clients in that direction
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Katie Beecher: So the first thing I wanna say is I am about the least woo woo, really woo woo person you will ever meet because I feel like intuition is natural.
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Katie Beecher: We're born with it.
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Katie Beecher: Medical intuition is really natural.
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Katie Beecher: When we or our kids, let's say, or somebody we know, when you start to have symptoms, when you get a stomach ache, okay, you immediately have to tune in.
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Katie Beecher: And because it gets your attention.
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Katie Beecher: The worse the stomachache is, the more it gets your attention.
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Katie Beecher: 'cause you may have been ignoring it, but you have to do something like, okay, do I need to lay down?
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Katie Beecher: Did I just eat something that was weird?
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Katie Beecher: Do I need to have some crackers?
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Katie Beecher: Do I need to throw up?
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Katie Beecher: Do I need to you're, you're automatically starting to do this detective work.
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Mary: Right.
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Katie Beecher: especially with gut because.
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Katie Beecher: The gut is one of my bad signals and a lot of other people.
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Katie Beecher: And what I mean by that is I may have gut symptoms before I realize that I'm anxious about something or I may realize it a little bit and my husband would be like, you seem nervous.
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Katie Beecher: And I'm like, yeah, I'm fine, whatever.
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Katie Beecher: But then my gut will be like, oh yeah, this is what's going on and you need to pay attention.
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Katie Beecher: So I.
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Katie Beecher: Really like to help people to tune into that in a natural feeling way and let them know that there's nothing special about me.
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Katie Beecher: I do have some pretty wild abilities, but there's nothing that I do that you can't do for yourself to a certain degree as well.
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Katie Beecher: And it's really a really important part of my sessions and my book that I teach people how to do that.
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Mary: Wow, that's incredible.
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Mary: So then how can women start to, to see their midlife and this transition as bigger invitation to go deeper into some of that embodiment work, intuitive feeling.
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Mary: And rather than fear it, look at it as little breadcrumb crumbs, if you will, to take bigger, bolder, uh, agency in their health, much like you did at age 16 by
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Katie Beecher: Right, right.
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Mary: picking up the phone.
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Katie Beecher: Crazy.
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Katie Beecher: Yes, I love that.
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Katie Beecher: So I'd like to start with the concept of just some self-acceptance because self is, feels pretty outta reach for a lot of people.
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Katie Beecher: We're very hard on ourselves, we.
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Mary: Of course.
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Katie Beecher: It feels kind of like, wow, I don't know if I'll ever get there, but how about just getting to know yourself?
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Katie Beecher: Self-acceptance, good, bad, ugly.
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Katie Beecher: So a really great tool is just start a list on your phone or whatever and start listing things about you.
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Katie Beecher: So judgment.
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Katie Beecher: And it can be the color of your hair, it can be I like this food or I really hate this one.
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Katie Beecher: Or it doesn't have to be this big, huge stuff.
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Katie Beecher: Just little tidbits about who you are, what's important to you what you don't like.
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Katie Beecher: And the more you start thinking that way, the more that when you are.
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Katie Beecher: Approached by a certain person or introduced to a different opportunity or something, you start to think, does that resonate with me?
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Katie Beecher: Is that good for me?
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Katie Beecher: Am I getting red flags about maybe this isn't a great person for me, or job or something?
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Katie Beecher: So you immediately start to look at life from.
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Katie Beecher: What do I need?
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Katie Beecher: Who am I instead of what's going on outside of me?
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Katie Beecher: And I like to teach people that intuition is basically a source of unconditional love and acceptance,
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Mary: Right.
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Katie Beecher: like a bodyguard, something that knows everything about you and loves you.
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Katie Beecher: And the more you get what you need from spirit, intuition, whatever you wanna call it, because whatever you call it doesn't matter.
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Katie Beecher: The less important it is what other people are doing and saying and thinking, and the less important, it's what people think of you.
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Katie Beecher: So if you are your foundation, everything kind of flows from there.
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Mary: Oh my goodness.
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Mary: So much of the work of Gary Zuckoff, of the Seed of the Soul is coming to mind right now for me in that heat.
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Mary: He really tells teach us to tap into the soul, the soul purpose, the lessons to learn in the soul journey.
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Mary: Understanding that there's parts of our personality that are there, to, live in a material world or into a human body, if you will.
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Mary: But as we go deeper into the soul and get to know that soul, who we are at the foundation, the root of who we are, spiritually.
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Mary: That those parts of her personalities start to fall off.
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Mary: for me, I feel like when I was reading that part of this, that chapter, I really felt like there's parts of my per personality that didn't exist.
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Mary: or had existed perimenopause or pre perimenopause.
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Mary: And were there probably to protect me just to survive in the corporate workplace.
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Mary: And now there are parts of my personality.
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Mary: That Are showing up.
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Mary: Others have fallen off.
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Mary: It's like I feel sometimes feel like a different woman almost sometimes.
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Mary: And If it wasn't for the work that I'm have done as a menopause doula, I think it would've scared the shit outta me because I'm actually am questioning things that I used to do, or like perimenopause or pre perimenopause.
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Mary: And I think.
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Mary: Well, I love who I am today.
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Mary: I wouldn't wanna change it for all of the broken parts or the faults in my, in the stars.
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Mary: But looking back, I think, oh, that poor, stubborn, unaware woman girl who she was.
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Mary: So let's like, let's talk about that personality part, which is.
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Mary: By and large, the material part of who we are.
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Mary: Just I guess, to protect the ego.
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Mary: I'd like to unpack that some more.
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Katie Beecher: Yeah, so I really love Young in psychology because young gets into all of this stuff of the different.
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Katie Beecher: Aspects of who you are and where they came from
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Mary: Yeah.
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Katie Beecher: and that they all serve a purpose.
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Katie Beecher: Maybe you got some of them from other people, or we get them from our experiences.
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Katie Beecher: But to look at ourselves in totality and be like, there are parts of me that are pretty darn great and serve me pretty well.
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Katie Beecher: And then there are parts that get in my own way and give me these messages of you're not good enough.
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Katie Beecher: Or what does somebody gotta think?
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Katie Beecher: Or, and narcissism and being really loving and giving, and we all have these parts.
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Katie Beecher: So I think to the more we get to know ourselves from a nonjudgmental perspective and be like, okay, I'm not gonna spend a lot of time like feeling guilty or feeling bad about the things in my past that I did that didn't serve me other than to learn from them, right?
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Katie Beecher: And I'm going to allow new experiences.
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Katie Beecher: And new ways of doing things.
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Katie Beecher: And it's like if you had told me 10 years ago that I would be on a pole, okay doing some pretty cool acrobatics in a bikini, competing on a stage in front of a, an entire auditorium of people, any of those, any of those little parts, I would've been like, you are out of your freaking mind.
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Katie Beecher: There's, there's just no way.
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Katie Beecher: And because I found something I love that helps me to get to know myself and express myself and be creative and these things that I would've been terrified, literally terrified.
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Katie Beecher: My, my family used to make fun of me and they'd be like, you wanna even put on a bathing suit?
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Katie Beecher: And now who you are.
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Katie Beecher: So, and I think that the older I got, the more I figured out these are the people who matter.
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Katie Beecher: These are the people maybe who not only don't matter, but don't even know me, and I'm gonna do more of what I want.
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Katie Beecher: And the more you challenge those fears, and it doesn't happen overnight, I'm not gonna say this is easy.
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Katie Beecher: It's little by little breadcrumbs like you said, but the more you challenge those fears, the more you realize that, oh, maybe I can't do that.
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Katie Beecher: Maybe didn't need to be so afraid of that.
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Katie Beecher: And okay, well maybe.
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Katie Beecher: That person got mad at me, but maybe I didn't really need that relationship or just really cool things happen when we evolve.
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Mary: Yes.
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Mary: Oh my goodness.
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Mary: Look at the trajectory of your life from disorders, which was.
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Mary: Which is profoundly rooted in an absence of self-love and trying to fit in.
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Mary: And let's face it, back in 83, it was all about the magazines, right?
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Mary: People Magazine, what we looked like.
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Mary: They would even put your weight in brackets next to the celebrity's name.
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Mary: What the hell?
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Mary: So no wonder that girls who Drew grew up in the Gen X generation were just inundated with, you're not good enough.
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Mary: And so to go right through that full spectrum of your life to being very, like you said, front and center in a bikini on a stage, your legs around a pole.
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Mary: What, what what a testimony that is.
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Mary: Uh, but like you said, it's not always easy.
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Mary: So, I know is just absolutely fascinating because I, the question of my name and my age, and you can do all that, but we'll get back to that, for that journey to bring in a woman through that journey.
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Mary: And I think at some level we all have that highly sensitive nature, That empathy, is probably one of the strongest women's intuition to be able to break free of all those societal norms and just become that full soul expression of who we're meant to be.
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Mary: So do you recognize that empathy within individuals and help them ignite it?
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Mary: Or what else is it?
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Mary: Within the individuals, the women that you work with, to help them bring out all those traits that they need to move past fear into acceptance and self love.
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Katie Beecher: So when you were talking one of the things that came up is that so many humans, but especially women, are really, really sensitive.
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Katie Beecher: Like when I was told I was so overly sensitive that it was painful and I think a lot of people can relate to that, especially women.
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Katie Beecher: So what that sometimes leads to is being able to feel other people's pain, and then as women we are told that it is your job to fix it or take care of.
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Katie Beecher: Maybe we watched our moms do that maybe we thought that was how we were supposed to be, and you got a lot of acceptance and kudos for that.
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Katie Beecher: Good girl, you're doing all this stuff.
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Katie Beecher: And so.
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Katie Beecher: One of the things that I do and, and people who come to me, I have to say some have physical illnesses, some have emotional stuff, some just wanna know more about themselves and their lives and how to connect to intuition or their relationship or, so it's all over the place.
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Katie Beecher: It's not just people who are sick.
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Katie Beecher: So but a, a really common theme seems to be, what do I do with these really strong feelings?
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Katie Beecher: What do I do when.
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Katie Beecher: I'm really, really sensitive.
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Katie Beecher: I have a hard time maybe tuning people out, or I'm afraid to hurt people's feelings.
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Katie Beecher: I'm afraid that if I say what I need to say or set boundaries that I'm gonna hurt somebody else or, so.
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Katie Beecher: One of the things that I like to teach people is number one, and this not my words, it's a very wise person who said this to me.
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Katie Beecher: Other people's pain might be the best gift you ever gave them
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Mary: Oh.
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Katie Beecher: because.
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Katie Beecher: Sometimes we need that pain to grow and learn.
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Katie Beecher: I am so grateful for the eating disorder because if that had not happened, I, first of all, I'd be dead.
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Katie Beecher: Because I hated myself.
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Katie Beecher: And it was having to go through that struggle and reach rock, rock bottom to be like, this is not working.
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Katie Beecher: You have to make a change.
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Katie Beecher: So it took that to separate me from my dysfunctional family.
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Katie Beecher: It took that to help me to get to know and to come to terms with my weird abilities so I like to help people see the challenges that they're going through as messengers and things that they can learn from and to, and even the sensitivity, like use it as a tool, but also know that you are in control of your energy at all times.
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Katie Beecher: So you can't actually absorb other people's energy, even though you think you do.
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Katie Beecher: You have the control.
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Katie Beecher: So it's like if I walked around open all the time, my life would be really overwhelming.
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Katie Beecher: But as a therapist, as coming from a dysfunctional family, as an intuitive, I've had to learn to turn it off and on so that I can protect myself.
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Katie Beecher: From the rest of the world, and then also tune in when I need to too.
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Katie Beecher: So we all have that ability.
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Mary: Yeah.
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Mary: Ah, wow.
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Mary: Wow.
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Mary: So that How then okay.
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Mary: I'm gonna switch gears a little bit
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Katie Beecher: Okay.
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Mary: it snake on me When you, when people come to work with you goop describes it as eerily accurate when people come to work with you or just provide you with their name and their age to help them with a.
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Mary: I'm gonna call it their soul map, right?
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Mary: That your four page document, but a soul map, a visual representation of what's happening so that they know they can start identifying where to make those wise choices to step into the greater version of themselves.
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Mary: I like to think certainly in the context of the midlife transition.
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Mary: Okay.
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Mary: of all, the very first time you ever did that, like how did you figure out that this was actually something and it worked?
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Katie Beecher: So, yeah.
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Katie Beecher: My mom got really sick.
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Katie Beecher: And I became her caretaker.
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Katie Beecher: And that really rocked my world because everything I had doing, been doing before then I had to stop.
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Katie Beecher: And it makes you, she almost died.
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Katie Beecher: Well, she eventually did die, but at the time she had almost died.
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Katie Beecher: And it really made you look at like, what's important, what's not is the stuff that I've been doing every day that I thought was important, actually important.
27:54
Katie Beecher: And it made me want to go deeper.
27:57
Mary: Mm.
27:57
Katie Beecher: And so I, I don't know how things appear sometimes, right?
28:03
Katie Beecher: And I heard the term medical intuition and I thought, I've always been super interested in medicine.
28:11
Katie Beecher: I came pretty close to going to medical school.
28:14
Katie Beecher: I have the intuition background, like what is this?
28:17
Katie Beecher: So I read Mona Alicia Schultz has pretty famous medical intuitive and I took a look at her book and she happened to be doing a three day workshop eons ago, and it was just like introduction to it.
28:32
Katie Beecher: What is it?
28:32
Katie Beecher: What does it mean?
28:33
Katie Beecher: What are chara?
28:34
Katie Beecher: Stuff like that.
28:35
Katie Beecher: So she was like, I'm going to give you a name and age, and I want you to just write down everything you can about person.
28:43
Katie Beecher: And we didn't know if it was a person or animal or whatever.
28:46
Katie Beecher: And I, I'm like, there's no way in hell, like, I'm gonna be so embarrassed, I'm not gonna be able to do this.
28:51
Katie Beecher: This is insane.
28:53
Katie Beecher: I started to write things down and then I started to see the people or the animals, like not even knowing it was an animal.
29:00
Katie Beecher: I started to see these people and see characteristics and one of them was this older woman and I saw her like hunched over and I knew what color hair she had and I could see inside her body and I knew trait like things about her emotionally and, and it just was, the more we did it, the more I knew and I'm like, how?
29:21
Katie Beecher: How is this happening to me?
29:23
Katie Beecher: And she even said, I don't know what you actually do, but you should probably think about doing this.
29:30
Katie Beecher: And it was just really mind blowing and eyeopening, which is why I really en encourage people, do things you haven't done before.
29:38
Katie Beecher: Do things that stop you.
29:40
Katie Beecher: Find out more stuff.
29:41
Katie Beecher: And when I, like I did a workshop up in Omega and I did this exercise with people.
29:47
Katie Beecher: And they thought the same thing.
29:48
Katie Beecher: They're like, no, I am not gonna be able to do this.
29:50
Katie Beecher: And I'm like, just write it down for yourself.
29:51
Katie Beecher: It's not a quiz.
29:52
Katie Beecher: You're not gonna, I'm not gonna embarrass You And they were pretty blown away by how much they knew about the person that I was talking about with just a name in a H two.
30:01
Katie Beecher: So we, a lot of us have more abilities than we think.
30:03
Katie Beecher: Right.
30:05
Katie Beecher: So it was then I said, there's something to this and I just started practicing on friends, on friends, dead relatives.
30:14
Katie Beecher: 'cause it doesn't don't have to be alive for me to do this on their pets.
30:18
Katie Beecher: I just kept practicing and I was involved with a spiritualist church at the time too.
30:25
Katie Beecher: For people who don't know what spiritualist churches are it's a place where you could go get, intuitive readings and psychic readings and energy healing.
30:36
Katie Beecher: And they believe in uh, us living after we die and, and all the things and in spirit communication and pretty cool stuff.
30:45
Katie Beecher: But I just kept learning and learning and learning and, and my abilities have grown and I've just discovered more about it.
30:52
Katie Beecher: So if you ask me how I do it, I honestly can't tell you.
30:56
Katie Beecher: But people get the reports and the paintings'cause I send them before I meet with them.
31:01
Katie Beecher: This is, I can't BS this, you get this before I meet with you.
31:05
Katie Beecher: And then during the meeting I get tons more information from my guides too.
31:09
Katie Beecher: So, but they're always like, wow, you, you already know me.
31:13
Katie Beecher: This is so cool.
31:14
Katie Beecher: Like, we've already done so much work because I don't have to tell you all of this stuff.
31:18
Mary: Oh my goodness.
31:20
Katie Beecher: Uh, yeah, it's, it's really awesome and it allows us to do so much, get so much done in an hour.
31:27
Katie Beecher: So some people don't even.
31:28
Katie Beecher: Need another appointment and some people want to work with me more, and, but you can get so much out of that first appointment.
31:35
Mary: Oh wow.
31:36
Mary: Okay.
31:36
Mary: Sign me up first
31:38
Katie Beecher: Awesome.
31:39
Mary: and second.
31:41
Mary: You said something that I gonna hone in on my guides.
31:45
Katie Beecher: Okay.
31:46
Mary: My guides.
31:47
Mary: Okay.
31:47
Mary: So I'm a big believer in guides.
31:50
Mary: But tell us a little bit about what that means.
31:53
Mary: First of all, guides and to work with guides.
31:57
Katie Beecher: Wonderful question.
31:59
Katie Beecher: When I first was taught how to connect to my intuition when I was 16.
32:04
Katie Beecher: Thank you.
32:05
Katie Beecher: Thank you, God, for bringing me this person.
32:09
Katie Beecher: I had no clue what I was doing.
32:11
Katie Beecher: It was so weird, and I'm just like, I don't know.
32:15
Katie Beecher: Like I knew the concept of having a voice in my head and I just called it God.
32:20
Katie Beecher: Which is great, and it just felt like love.
32:23
Katie Beecher: And she taught me to, even though this feels weird and foreign and all that stuff, try to connect to a piece of you that loves you unconditionally.
32:34
Katie Beecher: that's the goal.
32:35
Katie Beecher: And so I called it God and the more I did it.
32:39
Katie Beecher: The more I realized that I was also talking to my intuitive guides.
32:44
Katie Beecher: I was also talking to whatever's in spirit.
32:47
Katie Beecher: I was also, so it felt like a bunch of different entities and people, even people like my grandparents and things like that.
32:57
Katie Beecher: So the name guides I think can be hmm.
33:03
Katie Beecher: Overwhelming and, and misleading only because it puts pressure on people to define it.
33:10
Katie Beecher: So when I think about my guides I know that there is a.
33:18
Katie Beecher: Centuries old man who was involved in American Indian traditions.
33:24
Katie Beecher: There's a couple of women of different ages who have Latino az techy things never seen their faces, so I only have an image of what they look like, and then my grandparents are there, and then I see this half table.
33:46
Katie Beecher: And the initial guides are like the first people on that circular table.
33:51
Katie Beecher: And then I just see rows and rows and rows and rows of beings.
33:57
Katie Beecher: And we all have a team.
33:59
Katie Beecher: So, and we're all connected.
34:02
Katie Beecher: And even quantum physics, we're all connected, right?
34:06
Katie Beecher: Collective unconscious, all of the things.
34:08
Katie Beecher: So I think that we draw from not only spiritual beings, if you will, but also ancestors and beliefs and DNA and myths and all the good Jungian stuff.
34:22
Mary: For you and I to sit down and have this conversation, well, first of all, 20 years ago having this conversation on podcasting was.
34:29
Mary: Unheard of in the virtual space, but just to see the topic alone 20 years ago would've been witch crazy, hormonal whereas today, today we have these conversations and everyone lights up.
34:46
Mary: I really feel that we are living in such a great time, but a precipice of massive change.
34:52
Mary: And now the world is becoming more introduced because of these.
34:56
Mary: channels, these platforms introduced to people like yourself, Katie.
35:00
Mary: this is bringing, I think, so much hope and encouragement at a time where there's climate anxiety, there's political unrest, not to bring us down that road, but don't think we can exist in all the parts of who we are without being consciously aware of and even stressed out by these external factors.
35:26
Mary: then you pair that with the menopausal journey, which is so massively disruptive in itself with the hormone shifts So how then do you feel that spirituality, this awakening to spirituality.
35:41
Mary: Is in itself like a panacea that one cure medicine that she could always turn to.
35:48
Katie Beecher: The first thing I wanna say is I love your outlook because I agree with it and it saddens me when I hear from people who tell me that I am Satan.
36:01
Katie Beecher: What I do is against the Bible.
36:04
Katie Beecher: That fear based patriarchal stuff, and it really, really makes me sad.
36:13
Katie Beecher: Because it's people, mostly women, but even men do, who are shutting off a whole side of themselves because of things that they don't understand and think they can't control.
36:24
Katie Beecher: So that makes me very, very sad because I, everything I do is based in love and God, and it's just to help people's lives and help empower them, which can be scary.
36:38
Katie Beecher: So there's that, but.
36:41
Katie Beecher: I, I really do feel like embracing spirituality, which to me means connection with love, connection with each other, connection with your authentic self, helps you to be the most you can be and be happy.
37:03
Katie Beecher: And if we're.
37:05
Katie Beecher: Listening to ourselves and have self-love, then we can help others feel that way too.
37:12
Katie Beecher: And every single time I work with people, there is always a connection between what is wrong, so physical illness, emotional illness, something like that, and a lack of self-love and self-acceptance.
37:31
Katie Beecher: Then that goes along with not being able to express who you fully are and pushing that down.
37:37
Katie Beecher: So when I was going through my recovery, I heard loud and clear with acceptance, with self-acceptance, self-love and connection, and to intuition.
37:48
Katie Beecher: You can heal from just about anything.
37:51
Katie Beecher: And they told me that was gonna be the centerpiece of my work and my book.
37:56
Katie Beecher: And I, it's just keeps every person I work with, I'm just like, there it is again.
38:02
Mary: Yes, again, it goes right back to that earlier point.
38:06
Mary: It starts with the self-love.
38:08
Katie Beecher: Mm-hmm.
38:08
Mary: And now of course a lot of us have had incidents, Because it's not necessarily genetics.
38:16
Mary: As we've heard before, genes load the gun, but the environment pulls the trigger, so we are not pre-ordained or predestined because there are genetics to be a certain way, be it a neurodivergent trait.
38:31
Mary: We are exposed to things that bring trauma to the body and then it is I, yeah.
38:36
Mary: Understand, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, it's our ability to cope with that trauma that masks the true essence of who we are and interferes places, obstacles in the way for us to be authentic and to truly love and know thyself.
38:52
Mary: So your work does.
38:55
Mary: Onto past traumas and childhood traumas and neurodivergent traits.
39:01
Mary: Tell us a little bit how that comes into play then in the healing journey.
39:05
Katie Beecher: Yeah, very, very much.
39:06
Katie Beecher: When I look into someone's life time.
39:13
Katie Beecher: Time as we know it, it does not exist.
39:16
Katie Beecher: So I see someone's lifetime right in front of me and from childhood to whenever, wherever.
39:25
Katie Beecher: And the way that I know that something is like current is it's a louder voice.
39:31
Katie Beecher: It's this clearer picture, something like that.
39:33
Katie Beecher: And it's more faint.
39:34
Katie Beecher: If it's maybe happened to them in childhood or if it's related to somebody else they care about or love, because I get messages for people they care about too, because I that's how we operate.
39:45
Katie Beecher: So I don't believe that people have to rehash every single thing that happened to them in their childhood.
39:54
Katie Beecher: And I work with some people who've dealt with unbelievably severe.
40:00
Katie Beecher: Abuse, like through Catholic church stuff or contest or cults or things like that.
40:06
Katie Beecher: Just such sad, scary stuff.
40:12
Katie Beecher: And so a lot of the time, because they have developed these coping mechanisms to survive the feelings get pushed down and emotions get pushed down and they're, they do come out in the body and all that other good stuff, but it's like, how.
40:29
Katie Beecher: Is that stuff still impacting you?
40:33
Katie Beecher: Are you still hearing voices from people during that time?
40:41
Katie Beecher: Is the way that you were made to feel then, like you didn't matter, like all the things, is that still impacting you?
40:48
Katie Beecher: I'm a really big one on looking at now and how to move forward rather than just dwelling on the past, even though the, the past does shape who we are, so it's more about like moving forward and living in the now, but also are you holding on to any of that stuff?
41:09
Katie Beecher: And how is it shaping what you're doing?
41:12
Katie Beecher: But it's so significant and neurodivergence has become a very interesting term.
41:18
Katie Beecher: it.
41:19
Katie Beecher: Means so many things.
41:22
Katie Beecher: And I definitely am, most people in my family are, and whether that means autism stuff or A DHD or creativity or gifted or there's so many meanings now that almost has lost its meaning in some ways.
41:41
Katie Beecher: So I really don't love labels.
41:45
Katie Beecher: I really like to help people get to know who they are.
41:48
Katie Beecher: And what it means for them.
41:51
Katie Beecher: Not that some of those labels can't be like really educational.
41:55
Mary: at what point then in all the work that you'd been doing that you realized, I have to write this down in a book.
42:03
Mary: Get this out to the masses.
42:06
Katie Beecher: when I was going through my recovery when I was 16 I was like, okay, you're gonna write a book, you're gonna speak, you're gonna get to help a lot of people.
42:14
Katie Beecher: Fine.
42:15
Katie Beecher: Well, of course I put it off because I don't know what the hell I'm doing.
42:19
Katie Beecher: and you go through life's crap and shit and all this stuff.
42:23
Katie Beecher: And so, uh, mid forties I find out that I had Lyme disease.
42:29
Katie Beecher: I'd had it since I was a kid.
42:30
Katie Beecher: I grew up next to Lyme, Connecticut, finally diagnosed, no one ever diagnosed me, blah, blah, blah.
42:35
Katie Beecher: And one of the things I like to teach people and use.
42:38
Katie Beecher: Is, and this is what I did with my eating disorder, is I wrote to it as a friend
42:43
Mary: Oh.
42:44
Katie Beecher: and I let it write back to me.
42:45
Katie Beecher: There's all these techniques in my book.
42:46
Katie Beecher: I wrote to it as a friend and I was like, all right, here you are.
42:50
Katie Beecher: What would you like?
42:51
Katie Beecher: Why are you bugging the hell out of me?
42:53
Katie Beecher: What do you need?
42:55
Katie Beecher: How, how do you need me to help you?
42:57
Katie Beecher: What do you need to heal?
42:58
Katie Beecher: What's your message?
42:59
Katie Beecher: What are we doing here?
43:00
Katie Beecher: And so you see it as a team member instead of something that you have to fight or be afraid of, or control or have anxiety about.
43:07
Katie Beecher: So I did that with a Lyme and I refuse to say my Lyme or label any of the symptoms with my, but I'm just like, okay, Lyme, hi, what do you want?
43:17
Katie Beecher: What are, what are we doing?
43:18
Katie Beecher: How can I heal?
43:18
Katie Beecher: 'cause I.
43:20
Katie Beecher: I'm done with all this crap and it, it wrote back to me and it said, it's time to write your book proposal.
43:26
Katie Beecher: Finally, if you wanna heal, you need to do that.
43:29
Katie Beecher: And I'm like, shit.
43:30
Katie Beecher: So it was time.
43:33
Katie Beecher: I muddled my way through lots of proposals, got help and found an agent.
43:42
Katie Beecher: Was very fortunate.
43:44
Katie Beecher: Went through about 80 million iterations of proposals and found St.
43:50
Katie Beecher: Martin's Press who really liked the concept and helped me finish the book.
43:57
Mary: Okay.
43:57
Katie Beecher: and so that's what happened.
43:59
Katie Beecher: So I, if you wanna write a book or wanna do anything, like if you think you are not capable of it, you'd be surprised what you are capable of.
44:06
Katie Beecher: So.
44:08
Mary: So true.
44:09
Mary: did you call upon the guides or were
44:11
Katie Beecher: Oh heck yeah.
44:12
Katie Beecher: Oh yeah.
44:12
Katie Beecher: It was like, okay, I really have a DD and I need a little help with that just while I'm writing.
44:19
Katie Beecher: Because I can't focus'cause there's too much in my head.
44:21
Katie Beecher: There's 35 year, there's at that point 50 something years of experience.
44:26
Katie Beecher: Too much was coming at me all at once.
44:28
Katie Beecher: Didn't even know how to focus at all or whatever.
44:30
Mary: Yeah.
44:30
Katie Beecher: But I was like, I need help.
44:32
Katie Beecher: Please help me write this.
44:33
Katie Beecher: And it's like when I used to paint and stuff, the more you let it work through, you let it meaning your guides and your creativity and stuff the better the product is and the less you stress about it.
44:47
Katie Beecher: And it's funny because I don't remember everything that's in my book.
44:51
Katie Beecher: Like I, because
44:52
Mary: Yeah.
44:54
Katie Beecher: So much.
44:54
Katie Beecher: I didn't really write, like I just let it come through me.
44:58
Katie Beecher: It's like when I do readings, people will, I will remember if I meet with them again because my guys make me remember, but I don't consciously remember.
45:05
Mary: I feel the need to share this, so I have a deck of my Oracle cards.
45:10
Mary: again, it, for me, it's not woo woo, it's just something fun.
45:13
Mary: And there they were, next to my yoga mat this morning and I looked at them.
45:17
Mary: I went today's a good day to call upon heart again.
45:20
Mary: 'cause I love to do that.
45:21
Mary: And these are the archangel, fire Oracle cards, Alexandra Wenman.
45:26
Mary: So I did my little thing, shuffle the deck, tapped three times and pulled one out.
45:31
Mary: And it was the Archangel Aerial who is the archangel of nature and animals.
45:39
Mary: And of course, cultivating love, self-love, which is very ironic that I pulled her.
45:45
Mary: And then of course, the other night I had a dream about my beloved ishka, my husky, that we unfortunately had to say goodbye to for cancer last, March.
45:56
Mary: really impressed though that animals come through and you said I don't know whether it's a person's name or an animal's name.
46:03
Mary: Is there something different about when an animal is coming through to you or you're feeling the presence?
46:07
Mary: And I like to understand that a little bit more.
46:10
Katie Beecher: I love animal reading so much.
46:12
Mary: Oh, good.
46:13
Katie Beecher: sometimes they even come through in the paintings.
46:16
Katie Beecher: I will draw person's animal next to the spirit, symbolic image of them they go through, come through that way too.
46:22
Katie Beecher: The really fun thing about animals is.
46:25
Katie Beecher: First of all, they are here for us.
46:27
Katie Beecher: We think we're here to take care of them.
46:29
Katie Beecher: It's the opposite.
46:30
Katie Beecher: They are here to take care of us.
46:32
Katie Beecher: so they take on so many of our traits and our physical symptoms and our pain because they want to shield us.
46:42
Katie Beecher: And when I do animal readings, it's very funny because some people will.
46:49
Katie Beecher: Do anything for their animals.
46:50
Katie Beecher: So they'll get an animal reading, but they're not really ready to look at themselves.
46:56
Katie Beecher: Or there's some fear or health anxiety about learning more about themselves.
47:00
Katie Beecher: But animals are sneaky and so they tell me things not only about themselves, but they tell me lots of things about their humans.
47:11
Katie Beecher: And it's a very fun way to get the human to talk about their things and what they need to change and what they need to work on, because they don't want their animals to be hurt or harmed or impacted.
47:29
Katie Beecher: So if a person is dealing with anxiety, that's a really blanket one, but the animal picks up on that and then the animal gets sick.
47:40
Katie Beecher: Or something and the human's like, oh my God, I didn't know I was doing that to them.
47:46
Katie Beecher: I don't wanna make them sick.
47:48
Katie Beecher: What can I do to work on me to help them?
47:51
Katie Beecher: And it's, it's a very cool thing.
47:54
Katie Beecher: But it's, they animals feel just like humans.
48:02
Katie Beecher: When I work with them horses, I know nothing about horses except when I do readings, and they're incredibly fascinating because they're so human.
48:11
Katie Beecher: They're almost super human, and they feel very much like I'm talking to humans and I really.
48:22
Katie Beecher: I have no proof of this, but I think that we are reincarnated as each other, so humans and animals reincarnate as each other.
48:31
Katie Beecher: That's just my feeling.
48:34
Katie Beecher: But yeah, they talk to me just like I'm talking to any other human spirit thing, Mm-hmm.
48:40
Katie Beecher: Mm-hmm.
48:41
Mary: had disclosed too that my beloved ishka, she passed of cancer too.
48:44
Mary: Now it makes me think back and it was rapid.
48:47
Mary: It started out as a small golf ball and eng gof into a grape size,
48:52
Katie Beecher: Aw,
48:52
Mary: on her leg is that makes me think back.
48:54
Mary: And I heard that one once before and I thought she took on so much.
48:59
Mary: There must have been something.
49:01
Mary: Within me or maybe my lineage.
49:04
Mary: I don't know.
49:05
Katie Beecher: not as a blaming thing.
49:07
Katie Beecher: Don't take that on as a blame thing, right?
49:09
Katie Beecher: Because we also, it's like when kids get sick or, which is just horrible to think about, but an entire family is impacted by that child or by that pet
49:24
Mary: right.
49:25
Katie Beecher: so sometimes it's about what are the lessons that an entire family learns or
49:31
Mary: Okay.
49:31
Katie Beecher: how maybe because your animal is sick.
49:36
Katie Beecher: You slow down, you stop what you're doing, you put your priorities in order, and you make more time to spend with that animal.
49:46
Katie Beecher: And the crap that you thought was important maybe isn't.
49:50
Katie Beecher: And maybe you're like, I don't need to say yes to that party or to that obligation because I'm gonna spend time with my animal.
49:58
Katie Beecher: So there's so many lessons.
50:01
Mary: Stomach lessons.
50:01
Mary: Ugh.
50:02
Mary: Gosh.
50:04
Mary: Okay.
50:05
Mary: said something pretty profound earlier on and it really deserves the attention.
50:10
Mary: 'cause I just love it and that was, you'll pry hormones from my cold dead hands.
50:15
Mary: Tell us all about that.
50:18
Katie Beecher: So for me, we are all individuals.
50:23
Katie Beecher: My hormones have been wonky for a very long time.
50:26
Katie Beecher: I have ERUs Syndrome, which is a connective tissue disorder, and one of the side effects of that, it's, that's a whole shown in of itself, but one of these side effects is that you, it, your hormones can get wonky and all sorts of things, PSOs and stuff.
50:41
Katie Beecher: So, had postpartum depression, but it was a year and a half later, I got put on psych meds.
50:48
Katie Beecher: Thank God.
50:49
Katie Beecher: My gynecologist was like, no, there's something wrong with your hormones.
50:52
Katie Beecher: I was 29, got put on estrogen fine unopposed, estrogen, which a lot of doctors would be like, oh my God, you're, yeah.
50:59
Katie Beecher: Did that kill you?
51:00
Katie Beecher: No, I'm still here.
51:03
Katie Beecher: That changed my life and because of that it helped a lot of different things and so.
51:11
Katie Beecher: That made me a believer in helping myself with hormones and with also helping women of all ages be like, just'cause you're 20 doesn't mean that your hormones are normal.
51:23
Katie Beecher: And so you know, all this kind of stuff.
51:26
Katie Beecher: And so I am on an estrogen patch.
51:30
Katie Beecher: And bioidentical estrogen cream and then bioidentical testosterone from a compounding pharmacy and all that.
51:38
Katie Beecher: And DHEA.
51:38
Katie Beecher: And for me, it has changed my life in so, so, so many ways.
51:43
Katie Beecher: So, physically, emotionally, spiritually strength sex drive.
51:49
Katie Beecher: Yay.
51:50
Katie Beecher: Helped with the weight that weirdly came on my body when I turned 50 that wasn't there before.
51:58
Katie Beecher: Just self-confidence, it helps with some of that intense sensitivity.
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Katie Beecher: So it helped dull down some of that sensitivity that was overwhelming, that would get in the way of me being able to make decisions and things like that.
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Katie Beecher: So it's just helped so many things and thankfully more and more doctors are treating with symptoms.
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Katie Beecher: Based on symptoms rather than just blood tests.
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Katie Beecher: They are treating it as a quality of life issue rather than just getting you through symptoms because we deserve to feel as good as we possibly can for as long as we possibly can.
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Katie Beecher: They give men testosterone and Cialis and all this stuff when there's like a hundred.
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Katie Beecher: So, why are we so I really encourage women to explore those possibilities.
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Katie Beecher: Not everybody can do it, but even if you're 60 and one doctor says, oh, you're past menopause, maybe there's stuff you could do and maybe other doctors wouldn't take that perspective.
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Katie Beecher: So for me, it's been a great thing.
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Mary: I'm glad you shared that, Katie, because yet again, it's another tool in the toolbox of our, of the whole person that we are, to have that quality of life and perform optimally just the way we are meant to be independence, aging in place and that when we look at it holistically, is responsibility of everybody because it can be a burden on our healthcare system.
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Mary: When we, when we don't honor a person's right to have quality of life and to age in place.
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Katie Beecher: And also the people around us.
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Katie Beecher: We're not nice if our hormones are like it affects everybody.
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Mary: And that energy transmutes from ourselves to others that whole entire ripple effect.
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Mary: Which you alluded to earlier.
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Mary: I, I can't wait to dive into your book.
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Mary: Please tell the listeners where they can find it and where they can find you and perhaps you'll get a plethora of emails of My name's and I'm 33.
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Mary: I'm Sam, and I'm 64.
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Katie Beecher: I love it.
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Katie Beecher: So my book is called Heal From Within A Guide to Intuitive Wellness.
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Katie Beecher: And you can get like every Amazon, every, it's available everywhere wherever books are sold.
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Katie Beecher: I recommend the book rather than the audio, although a lot of people get both.
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Katie Beecher: 'cause there's a ton of visual aids and tools and there's some examples of some of my paintings in there.
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Katie Beecher: And it's designed to go through a workbook and take your time with it.
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Katie Beecher: Mark it up and all those kind of things.
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Katie Beecher: my website is katie beecher.com that's where you can go and make your appointment for the readings.
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Katie Beecher: There's a couple of different options and we report and painting or without, or whatever, but there's, there's different options.
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Katie Beecher: And I work with people all over the world by Zoom,
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Mary: this has been such a delight.
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Mary: I am so glad that you found me.
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Mary: And that I just knew that, well, she's definitely someone I need to talk to, so, and we, here we are
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Katie Beecher: I love it.
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Katie Beecher: Thank you so much for having me.
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Mary: baby.
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Mary: Thank you so much for your precious time and your energy to share with us here today.
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Mary Lee: Wow, that was an incredible, powerful, deeply nourishing conversation.
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Mary Lee: And Katie reminds us that healing isn't linear.
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Mary Lee: It isn't even one dimensional.
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Mary Lee: It's an integration of the physical, emotional, and spiritual parts of ourselves and her journey, as a licensed counselor and a medical intuitive shows just how transformative it can be when we learn to trust our inner guidance.
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Mary Lee: So here are a few key takeaways I got from today's conversation.
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Mary Lee: Number one, menopause is not a decline, it's an awakening.
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Mary Lee: Katie invited us to see this transition as a portal into self-discovery, a time to reassess who we are, what we need, and what we're no longer willing to carry.
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Mary Lee: Number two.
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Mary Lee: Intuition and self-acceptance are essential tools, and she encourages us to listen inward, honor our desires, and let go of the old beliefs that keep us playing small.
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Mary Lee: Midlife becomes lighter when we stop abandoning ourselves.
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Mary Lee: Number three, sensitivity is strength.
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Mary Lee: Amen to that.
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Mary Lee: Rather than seeing sensitivity as a flaw like I did growing up, and probably many of us too.
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Mary Lee: Katie reframed it as a powerful.
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Mary Lee: Instrument for deeper awareness and connection, so long as we protect that energy and keep healthy boundaries.
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Mary Lee: And number four, healing requires courage and honesty.
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Mary Lee: And from Katie's own experiences with trauma caregiving and hormonal imbalance, she makes it clear we need to address these past wounds, love ourselves fiercely, and ask for support.
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Mary Lee: These are all non-negotiables in our healing journey.
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Mary Lee: And lastly, it wouldn't be a Menopause Disruptor podcast episode if we didn't talk about at least one of the interventions.
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Mary Lee: And this one, hormonal therapy hormone therapy is deeply personal and it's deeply impactful.
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Mary Lee: And Katie opened up about her own hormonal struggles and the life changing benefits of.
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Mary Lee: Menopause hormone therapy highlighting the need for more system centered care, more nuance, and far more validation for women seeking answers.
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Mary Lee: So if any of this in today's conversation resonated with you, I hope it serves as a reminder too, that you are not meant to simply survive midlife.
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Mary Lee: You are meant to evolve through it and to thrive.
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Mary Lee: You're allowed to be curious, intuitive, sensitive, bold, and absolutely beautiful.
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Mary Lee: so grateful to Katie for showing us what it looks like to live with radical self-trust and for giving women permission to embrace their whole selves, and thank you for listening taking time out of your busy day to listen to this episode.
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Mary Lee: until next time, stay curious, stay compassionate, and keep disrupting the menopause narrative.