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Sailor Moon · To All the Men I've Tolerated Before

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  Speaker 2: Talk to you soon. Hey tolerators, listens to all the
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  Speaker 2: men I've tolerated before with Pample Katona, your weekly look
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  Speaker 2: at every day misogyny. Our guest today is my new
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  Speaker 2: friend Satoria, who is in my accountability group for the
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  Speaker 2: Behind the Veins writing workshop I'm in with the wonderful
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  Speaker 2: Chelsea Davontez. Satoria was kind enough to give me a
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  Speaker 2: reason to call watching Sailor Moon work and has chosen
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  Speaker 2: that as our topic today. Hey friend, welcome, Hello, Thank
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  Speaker 2: you for having me. The literal intro is the only
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  Speaker 2: scripted part of the show, and it is always the
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  Speaker 2: part that I mess up.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, that's the universe just telling you something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, girl, you're an improv actress. You are
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  Speaker 2: not an Academy Award winning actress. You gotta stop. So,
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  Speaker 2: uh go ahead, your new friend to the listeners, introduce
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  Speaker 2: yourself and give the tolerators a look into who you are.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no pressure, Okay, Hi, I'm Victoria. Nice to meet
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  Speaker 3: you all. I am a library by day side note,
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  Speaker 3: September is library cards sign out months, which might be
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  Speaker 3: past September when you're hearing this, but you can sign
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  Speaker 3: up for a library cards year round fun stuff. I
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  Speaker 3: am also a writer. My background is in poetry, but
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  Speaker 3: I'm breaching out into fiction and memoir. No, I haven't
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  Speaker 3: finished either book yet. Stop asking please, that's very rude.
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  Speaker 3: That's how that's going. And I love Stay the Moon
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  Speaker 3: because I grew up in the nineties and she was
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  Speaker 3: there and just really fun and great.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so glad that you told everyone I haven't finished.
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  Speaker 2: Stop being rude, because I've been practicing my Oh, what
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  Speaker 2: do you do? And then me going, oh, I'm a
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  Speaker 2: comedy writer I write, and them going oh, what have
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  Speaker 2: we seen of yours? And me going I didn't say
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  Speaker 2: I was an employed writer. I said I was a writer.
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  Speaker 3: Well, my background is in poetry. So if you ever
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  Speaker 3: talk them when you're a poet, you don't get a
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  Speaker 3: follow up questions like that.
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  Speaker 2: You do when you're a comedy writer. People are like,
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  Speaker 2: you go to the lab factory and it's like, no,
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  Speaker 2: believe me. If I had, you would have seen me
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  Speaker 2: on TikTok. I don't know, and then it sounds very amasive,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, everyone stopped being so interested in us. Get
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  Speaker 2: a light, guys, Get a light. Also a special book
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  Speaker 2: for the library, Little Miss Sunshine no longer streams. You
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  Speaker 2: have to rent to and or buy it. And that's
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  Speaker 2: devastating to me personally. I don't know how anyone else
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  Speaker 2: felt hearing that, but devastating news. And yesterday it just
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  Speaker 2: occurred to me while I was doing my morning pages.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I guess I could do what other
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  Speaker 2: people do and use the library as my blockbluster.
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  Speaker 3: You sure could. Hey, I'm gonna blow your mind. Did
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  Speaker 3: you know the library has a streaming service.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called like Kobelui, that's what it's called.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, it's called Canopy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, O K though yeah really k yeah?
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  Speaker 3: So hey, I don't I don't know. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if Little the Sunshine's on there, but it could be.
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  Speaker 3: It could be, but a Little the Sunshine great film side.
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  Speaker 2: Also, you can get physical DVDs at the library. I
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  Speaker 2: used to in the early OS before we had netflips
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  Speaker 2: and Blockbuster banned me from all of their locations due
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  Speaker 2: to late fees and my inability to pay them.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, you should come up with a better story than that,
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  Speaker 3: like like I thought you were going to be Like
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  Speaker 3: Blackbuster banned me because I went off on one of
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  Speaker 3: the workers or something like that, like because I committed
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  Speaker 3: violence in one of the aisles.
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  Speaker 2: Because I kept telling the clerics at the desk why
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  Speaker 2: the Virgin Suicides and Welcome to the Dollhouse were just
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  Speaker 2: perfect teenage girl viewing over and over.
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  Speaker 3: Again because I destroyed all their woody Adam films and
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  Speaker 3: tell them why I was an activist sports school before
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  Speaker 3: it was cool.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Sailor Moon? Can I tell you the Did I
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  Speaker 2: tell you how I ended up watching Sailor Moon the
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  Speaker 2: most As a kid. Now, I would go to a
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  Speaker 2: babysitters after school, and she didn't want to deal with
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  Speaker 2: us older kids at all. She really enjoyed the toddlers
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  Speaker 2: and the babies that she babysat, and we were just
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  Speaker 2: the kids that came over to ruin her day at
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  Speaker 2: three thirty. So she would put us in her basement
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  Speaker 2: with like a tiny glass of water and a teeny
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  Speaker 2: tiny TV and we would watch Sailor Moon on Cartoon
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  Speaker 2: Network until my mom mixed me up.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, that that is just the childhood of a millennial.
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  Speaker 2: A millennial and the babysitter was in my neighborhood, so
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  Speaker 2: I did take like the school bus to her. And
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  Speaker 2: one day I just got off the bus and sat
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  Speaker 2: on my own porch and my mom was like, I.
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  Speaker 3: Think I don't I don't think I need the basement anymore. Mom,
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  Speaker 3: I think the pitch is fine.
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  Speaker 2: The porch was fine. And those before selvos were a thing.
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  Speaker 2: So like all Leslie, my babysit your name was, I
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  Speaker 2: did not show up and there's very limited ways to
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  Speaker 2: contact me or my mother.
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  Speaker 3: And did Leslie contact anyone?
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's hard to say. I just remember, like
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  Speaker 2: I was a very defiant kid. But when I was defiant,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, that's it. Today, I'm just gonna sit
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  Speaker 2: on the porch. I can't deal with this lady anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had enough.
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  Speaker 2: I've had enough.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, not enough snacks or water, but enough of Leslie.
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  Speaker 2: And then two days of the week I got to
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  Speaker 2: go across the street after the porch defiance, I got
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  Speaker 2: to go across the street with the old nice couple
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  Speaker 2: whose cat was named Bigaro from Pinocchio, and they would
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  Speaker 2: make me the best tax of my life while I
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  Speaker 2: watched the Disney channel of course.
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  Speaker 3: They got a cat named Figaro. They're good people. They're
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  Speaker 3: good people.
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  Speaker 2: I would watch like the goof Troop whatever was going
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  Speaker 2: on cartoon wise in the early two thousands. True, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and like Rescue Rangers and probably Ducktails woo uh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So that's how I how did you get started with
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  Speaker 2: Sailor Moon?
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  Speaker 3: I saw it was part of like morning cartoons on
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  Speaker 3: not I don't know if it was Cartoon Network, but
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  Speaker 3: it was some morning cartoon like once a week, so
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  Speaker 3: probably a weekend cartoon. And it was like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: back in the day where he didn't see it, he
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  Speaker 3: didn't see it, good luck, you know, your life was
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  Speaker 3: ruined for that week. And and I think I only
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  Speaker 3: saw like maybe a couple episodes of the first season,
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  Speaker 3: and and then you just were chasing, chasing the dream
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  Speaker 3: of finding this beautiful series again. And I think later
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  Speaker 3: on it started airing I think on Cartoon Network in
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  Speaker 3: the evenings when I was older and had a TV
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  Speaker 3: in my room and could watch it. Then Tonami shout
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  Speaker 3: out to Tona me. But so that's but I saw
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  Speaker 3: it really young, and I just thought it was the
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  Speaker 3: coolest thing in the world because it was girls fighting.
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  Speaker 3: You know evil, and it was like they were all
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  Speaker 3: friends and they had the cutest hair, the cutest outfits
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  Speaker 3: and yeah, and it was like and it was also
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  Speaker 3: just I think it was one of the probably the
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  Speaker 3: sides maybe Dragon Ball D what are the first animes
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  Speaker 3: I've ever seen? So it was really cool.
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  Speaker 2: And then did you become an anime fan? Like do
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  Speaker 2: you anime or whatever they call it?
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  Speaker 3: I do like anime. I'm not like an anime scholar
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  Speaker 3: per se, but I do like it. I definitely appreciate
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  Speaker 3: how streaming has like brought anime to the masses. Here
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  Speaker 3: by the masses, I guess I'm in America, US in
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  Speaker 3: the West. You know, it's been really cool to see
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  Speaker 3: like because you couldn't, Like you really just didn't. We
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  Speaker 3: just didn't have access to it as a kid, Like
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  Speaker 3: and for a while, if you didn't have a subscription
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  Speaker 3: to like Sushi Roal, you just really got very limited access.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, to me, love it or hate it, that
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  Speaker 3: was almost all you got to see as a kid.
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  Speaker 2: I was a Pokemon early. I had the cards. My
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  Speaker 2: grandfather owned a hobby shop, so I was in the
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  Speaker 2: Pokemon League. Like I did have a badge that was
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  Speaker 2: very a fish. But we were like we were a
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  Speaker 2: big geek family. Like remember POGs, like these stupid kids
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  Speaker 2: with their dumb ass jackass uh stunts that they pull
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  Speaker 2: on tiktat And I saw also with Coba on one
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  Speaker 2: of the Do you guys miss POGs? Do you remember pots?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I don't miss them. I don't remember them.
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  Speaker 2: And no I do not miss them. Oh I miss
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  Speaker 2: them because I love a little stupid thing that comes
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  Speaker 2: into in a variety of different shape things. Yeah, like,
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  Speaker 2: oh there are Disney POGs, there are scary movie POGs.
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  Speaker 2: There are oh I love uh during the Magic Hour
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  Speaker 2: for behind the Bans, I did coin the term I'm
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  Speaker 2: a tramp for a trinket.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, we need the merch for that. First.
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  Speaker 2: You do need the merch for that. And that's how
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  Speaker 2: Claire's used to get me with all of those boxes
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  Speaker 2: that could contain nothing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they were big enough to hold nothing, absolutely nothing,
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  Speaker 3: but they were so cute.
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  Speaker 2: They were so cute, and they were a different one
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  Speaker 2: every month. And I am a child.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I do need all of them.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, so Pokemon Leak and Sailor Moon And that's
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  Speaker 2: where I ended with anime because and I think I
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  Speaker 2: disclosed this to you on our like zoom pre meat,
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: where I was like, oh, here's the thing, or no,
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: I did it. We didn't even have that. We just
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: emailed back and forth. I haven't told you, Mike, gross
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  Speaker 2: connection to anime. All of the weird boys of my
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: high school liked anime, and they only ever talked about
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  Speaker 2: like the girls and their boobs and how you saw
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: their underwear all the time. And I was like, anime
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  Speaker 2: is gross. It's for perverts, and it's for guys with
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  Speaker 2: bad skin. So I never watched it. And I and again,
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: there's so much content out there, there's no way I
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: could ever watch all things I.
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  Speaker 3: Think you are. I think you're spreading very harmful huh
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  Speaker 3: and quite frankly hateful stereotypes about anime lover.
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  Speaker 2: I apologize to all of anime. The context is that
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: I grew up in northwest Indiana. Okay, just fields of
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: white people and corn. That's all we've got here. So
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  Speaker 2: when I tell you.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I think yeah, I mean, I think that was
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  Speaker 3: the stereotype back in the day. But and there wasn't
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  Speaker 3: like a whole lot of I didn't know many girls
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  Speaker 3: that watched anything anime, But I think Pokemon was the
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  Speaker 3: big crossover because I think everyone loved Pokemon, and I
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  Speaker 3: think everyone still does for the most part, right frankly,
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  Speaker 3: because they're just so dan cute.
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  Speaker 2: I do have every Game Boy color version of the
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: Pokemon game, where it was all the same game, but
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: like sometimes it was red and sometimes it was blue,
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: and then crystal it was multi color and we all
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: freaked out. And I will say that, like, looking back
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: on Pokemon, it didn't have a lot of those gross
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  Speaker 2: things that eventually got embedded in my head as a
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  Speaker 2: teenager who had to like pretend to be attracted to boys.
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  Speaker 2: But Sailor Moon I was rewatching it these past couple
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  Speaker 2: of weeks and I was like, damn, Animation truly is
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  Speaker 2: the one place that we get women in the forefront
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  Speaker 2: of the story, and they actually allowed those women to
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  Speaker 2: be feminine and girly and bratty sometimes like all three,
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  Speaker 2: Like all of the episodes I watched of Sailor Moon.
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  Speaker 2: In the middle of the episode, she's like, I'm tired
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  Speaker 2: and I need a nap, and then she cries until
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: someone brings her a stack. She gets to take a nap,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, I love that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I loved that. Like looking back on it, like
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  Speaker 3: she was a terrible student, Like she failed all her
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  Speaker 3: exams and she was eating constantly. I mean she she
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: was like rail thin. They're all rail fin. There's no
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  Speaker 3: fat representation, but I mean nothing's perfect. But like she
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: was constantly eating. And I don't really remember that getting.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it could be wrong. I haven't done like
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  Speaker 3: a complete rewatch, but like that wasn't like a big deal.
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  Speaker 3: It was just like she just was hungry, so she
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  Speaker 3: just ate and it was like, yeah, she eats a
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  Speaker 3: lot what she does, and like she just was a
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: huge klutz and it was all fine. It was like
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  Speaker 3: that's who she is, and it's kind of adorable.
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  Speaker 2: Her superhero mentor is her own talking cat, and that
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  Speaker 2: cat's never telling her that she's doing a bad The
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  Speaker 2: cat's never telling her that she's doing a great job.
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  Speaker 2: But the cat is also never telling her like superheroes
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  Speaker 2: actually have to make good grades and they don't shop,
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  Speaker 2: like we have to do something else I have well,
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  Speaker 2: and the.
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  Speaker 3: Cat's like the cat is like disappointed. She's always like
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  Speaker 3: are you kidding me? And like but also like maybe
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  Speaker 3: next time.
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  Speaker 2: And I started to think of like parallels. I was like, no,
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  Speaker 2: I have seen those before. We do like to give
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  Speaker 2: the television of the nineties and os like no grace
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  Speaker 2: at all when it comes to female representation. And I
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: was like, but we have had this track before where
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: it's like women are feminine and cute and girly and
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: then they're also fighting monsters in crime and we have
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: it like Josie and the Pussycats and jem and mine
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  Speaker 2: was the brain of the teenage Witch.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Recently I got sucked into a cartoon that as a
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  Speaker 2: full grown adult in my upper twenties, I was waking
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  Speaker 2: up on Saturday to watch the Tangled cartoon because it's
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  Speaker 2: so cute. And then it was called like Star for
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  Speaker 2: Star against the Forces of Evil in the World or something,
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  Speaker 2: and again it was a big sailor Moon type deal
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  Speaker 2: where it's like she's just a girl who's in a
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  Speaker 2: comic book and she's all feminine and girly and cutesy,
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  Speaker 2: but she's fighting prime the entire time. And it was
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  Speaker 2: the funny shit I had ever seen. And I used
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: to wake up early on Saturdays to catch it on Disney.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that's dedication as an adult, I can know early
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  Speaker 3: to watch something. Yeah, I mean I liked that, Like
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  Speaker 3: it was very much like she wasn't it was repetitive
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: because it was always like she's the worst, she can't
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  Speaker 3: do anything right, but she always say the day at
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  Speaker 3: the end, she somehow pulls it out, like you know,
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  Speaker 3: she she's all powerful because she's like the reincarnation of
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  Speaker 3: the Moon Princess. And I do think part of it
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  Speaker 3: was like my session with the Moon too. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: it's like, you know, pull it all aspects in there,
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  Speaker 3: and they all have like it's like all of the
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Sailor Scouts have a color and they all have like
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  Speaker 3: one is like it's probably the Spice girls, Like one
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  Speaker 3: is very sporty and one is very smart, and one
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  Speaker 3: is kind of flirty. And Sailor Moon's the leader of
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  Speaker 3: the gang because there has to be a leader and
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  Speaker 3: the girl. I was watching one of the movies that's
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  Speaker 3: on Netflix right now and last night, and like their
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: powers are so funny, Like one of them, Sailor Neptune,
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  Speaker 3: plays a violin and that's the manifestation of her power,
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  Speaker 3: and it just cracked me up so much. I was like,
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: I love this, this is so great, and I forgot.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I remember the like gender fluidity of it all,
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  Speaker 3: but like as a kid, obviously a lot of that
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  Speaker 3: went over my head. But now I look at it
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, wow, there's a lot of this in here.
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  Speaker 2: There is. And also it was just refreshing to actually
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: reflect back on the cartoons that I had watched growing
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: up and going like, oh, no, things that I enjoyed.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: I actually think that it's actually twenty twenty five, in
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  Speaker 2: these past five issuars that have a drought on girlhood television. Now,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: I did say a TikTok that was like, you're actually raw,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: and you're just no longer the target our audience for
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: girlhood television. So you don't know it, but like my
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: premor movie is like now and then and then you
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: like bring in Sailor Moon and Sabrina the Teenage Witch
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: and all of these shows that sure there were men around,
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  Speaker 2: and there was even like cute flirtations at love interest
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: and love triangles and things like that, but they were
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: like heading up the show, and it was it was
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: so nice to see that, like the reason why a
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: lot of my personality is like no, screw you, femininity
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: and glitter pens and all of it is very cool.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Is because I grew up in the Lisa Frank era
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: of it all, where all of that was on TV
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: because they had to sell us stuff.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Shout out to that rainbow whale and the ocean just
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: doing flips.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: The leopard. We all remember that leopard.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Oh I love it. I loved it all. Still do.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: You can still find it? And I'm like, I'm about
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: to spend too much funny.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: I know, and she's still well, she's still doing like
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: brand deals, I think, and like kind of have a
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: research us.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, And I wish that girls nowadays and I get
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: that they're starting to find our old media and they're like,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: this is the first time I'm watching One Tree Hill.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Well it's an inside joke, I'll finally get or whatever.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: And they're thanks to streaming, they're starting to find it.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: But I do think that because of stream streaming, we've
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: had such a lazy approach to female media that I'm like,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: where's the sailor Moon of today? Except for now? I
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: know because it's K pop Demon Hunters, Yes, I know.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: So I watched it to get ready for this, and
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: I know it was like number it was on my
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: list already because it was number one. Everybody's been talking
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: about it and yes, oh my gosh, it was so
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: good and the songs. I was like, this is where
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: it is, and Saytherman didn't have like it did have
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: to have music in it, and it had great intro songs,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: great every now and then you'd have like a singing
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: aspect to it. But this was like it wasn't a
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: musical like Kate Pops even Hunters is. But yeah, I
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: loved it. I was like, this is why this is
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: number one, and truly it is part of the revolution.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: I was.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: I went downstairs to make myself some lunch and it
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: was one of those nice days where like all of
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: the windows are open because there's an actual breeze that's
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: not just human air, like humid air being blown. Yeah,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: it was part of Fossball as the album. It was
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: that one nice week we had in September, you know,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: the one I do. I was, I know, and I
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: was like micro Wily be my lunch or whatever, and
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I just started singing one of
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: the K pop demon Hunter songs that I didn't even
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: know that I knew, and I was like but and
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: I was like, how come this got into my head?
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: And then I was like, rooster kind of sounds like
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: the K Pop Demon Hunters today. Why is that? Because
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: we have a rooster that lives a couple houses down
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: yards down. I don't know, I just hear him every day.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: And I finally walked over to the window that like
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: is above my kitchen sink and I got to listening
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: and it was and they can't be school aged because
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: it was in the middle of the week, in the
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: middle of an afternoon, so these kids should be at school.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: It's so a gaggle of three and four year olds,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: like pre k year olds are just giving the concert
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: of their life to the K Pop Demon Hunters.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: And it was so sweet and like I am a
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: woman who has to like think about misogyny all the
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: time and what we're doing to women at all times.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: And I was just like, oh, the girls are gonna
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: be okay.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Oh, I love that. That sounds so precious.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: It was, and I couldn't, like, you know, you could
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: barely hear them. They're like three houses down. I've never
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: even seen these girls. My best friend was like, get
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: out of your house and go run and join them.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Just be a thirty year old frolicking into their yard
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: going soda pop, You're a best soda pop.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: I was like, I buy, yeah, you definitely want to
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: get arrested.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I remember that the joy of being into
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: things like Sailor Moon and K pop, Demon Hunters and
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: the Spice Girls is you got to pick your persona
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: and make it your whole personality.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, And like I think that's part of like
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: what people As an adult now I can just like
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: I think of all the years I wasted not doing
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: that and being like I'm too cool for that when
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: it's like no, you just lean into stuff you like
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: and just have fun and enjoy it. And now it's
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: cool to like go to comic cons and like to
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: lean into the fandom and it meant that you like,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: you know, and just like I don't know, it's you
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: spent so many years trying to like be cool, you
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. But I don't think I'm particulating
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: this quite that well. But like it's so annoying that
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: like when you realize, like, no, why am I pretending
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: I don't like the things that I liked fit in?
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: That's so stupid And maybe it's just something that I
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: start asking people, you know, we're having a fun party
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: or a dinner or whatever. And then I'm like, hey,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: do you remember the last time that you stopped like playing?
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Like the barbies got put away? Like you just woke
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: up one day and you were a thirteen year old
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: girl and you had no idea where your American girl
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: doll was, Like you stopped playing? Do you like was
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: it traumatic? Did someone tell us that we had to
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: grow up? I used to play Spice Girls in my
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: grandma's yard for the people driving on the street. I
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: was posh spice. My sister was babys because she was
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: the youngest, the neighbor kid. I was gott you gotta
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: do what you gotta do. I was posh because if
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: you can't be Jerry but you still have an attitude like,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: but I'm the main bitch in every scenario that I've
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: ever encountered, then you have to be posh.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: I wanted to be Jerry so bad, but I wasn't
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: a redhead. And you know, what can you do? Right?
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: You do? What can you do? I was like, I
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: don't want to be patchy. All she does is we're black,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: and now I have to go dig out a black outfit.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I don't wear that, like and for Sailor Moon, I'm
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: pretty sure I was Sailor Mars. She's like the sassy,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: angry one, right. Yeah, she was mad all all the
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: time time, and I was like, I see her and
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: she is me.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she tries to. I think in like one of
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: the first seasons, she literally tries to like have a
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: revolt and like be Sailor Moon. She's like, actually, I
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: think I should be the leader boiler. It doesn't work out.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: That's very me coded. Yeah, I would just be like,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: why am I not in charge? Uh?
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Like, why are we following this meatball head? For the
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: ones that know?
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: And then I think that, and then I think that
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Sailor Moon immediately also transfers into u beene an astrology
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: girly like I was like, I should look up what
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: planet is in my mom like where what house my
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Mars is in? And and what sign?
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh for sure, I think it all played into
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: like I was obsessed with the moon with the crescent moon,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: and then I love this show that's all about the
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: reincarnation of a moon princess and her boyfriend.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Who we didn't not see. We never saw his face
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: for like episodes.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: China and like, and then when he comes around, it's
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: like he's there, but not really. And I was thinking
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: about it too, Like I loved that, Like a lot
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: of the villains are also women, so it's it's really
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: a show about women. I mean, I mean there's some
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: guys here and there, but it's it's like it's you,
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, Sailor Moon and her friends and then eventually
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: her daughter who gets to play her little sister because
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: she comes from the future. It's so I love the
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: bonkardness of the show, how it's just so nonsensical and
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: you just roll with it. It's so fun.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Also, have you ever looked up the voice actor for
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: what's his name? Tuxedo Mask, the Mask, Mexedo Tuxedo Mask. Yes,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I haven't, No, Okay. The only reason I know who
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: he is is because he's on critical role in Campaign
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: three and is one of their guest stars. His name
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: is Robbie Damon. You'll know Robbie Damon because I also
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: always refer to him as Robbie with the good hair.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: He's got good hair. He looks like a pirate and
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: he looks like he could be on the Pirates of
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: the Caribbean, but could also be Eugene from and from Tangled.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: And the only reason I know he's the masked tuxedo
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: in one of the uh reboots of a Sailor Moon
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: is because they listed whatever. I'm looking up to see
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: what coms he's doing. I'm like, do I get to
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: meet Robbie Robbie Damon? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I'm like a pirate,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: doesn't he it's spelled like diamond but you do say it. No,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: it's spelled like Damon and diamonds.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Is that right.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know Robbie call In. We didn't get to
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: meet last year at gen Con. But yeah, and he's
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: got great hair. Yes, yes, I need everyone to know
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: that he has such good hair. And I don't know
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: which iteration of tuxedo mask he was, but he was him.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, Well there's so And that's the thing, there's so
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: many iterations. I was trying to go back and like
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: like get his timeline of like the different the shows,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: and I got contused very quickly. I was like, oh
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: my goodness, this is gonna take some scholarship work to
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: figure to figure this out.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: But I would I felt like I had imposter syndrome
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: picking what I should rewatch because I was like, should
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I watch the American dubbed version? Should I try to
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: find it in its original form and put English subtitles on?
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Because I know that the actual Japanese anime is queer
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: and gender fluid and whatnot, and they took that all
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: out of the American version.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Well, you can't really find what we really watched originally.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: You can't really find that anymore. I think it's really
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: not unless you like find some kind of like illegal
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: you know, someone reported this on their VHS back in
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: the day. Children google what a VHS player? It's because
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: it yeah, because.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: You know it.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: I think it was edited so much it's kind of
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: offensive at this point, you know, but we didn't know
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: back then. So I don't think you can actually find
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: that version anymore. I think I think you can only
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: really find you know, you can find a dubbed version,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: but it's more true to the original. It's just genuinely dubbed,
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: of like, but still the original and the gender fluidity
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: and all that's the imagery and all that's still there.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I think, now, well that's good, I do. I think
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: it's so funny that in twenty twenty five, in the
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: high of fascism, people, I can't believe that this is
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: what's happening now. And I'm like America has also always
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: censored the media from other countries, like if it was
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: very queer or like for Okay, our neighbors in Canada.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: And my favorite show, Degrassi America when it air at
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: the episode where Manny has an abortion, I watched it
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: at three am so I would complete my Degrassi knowledge medication.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: I love Degrassi and I don't sleep, but everything about
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: the rest of Degrassi, because I do believe that there
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: are certain television shows where one episode dictates what we'll
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: do for the rest of our lives, like at One
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Tree Hill, it's the episode in season three with the
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: school shooting. In Degrassi, I think it's Manny's abortion because
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: everything about Krag and Manny makes sense from that point forward.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: That's that's deep.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: I didn't watch Degrassy, so I know everyone loves it
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: though he's watched it. Yeah, I don't know. It's so
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: interesting to see, like because I didn't know at the
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: time how edited it was, and I still loved it.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: You know, because it was just so different than any
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: other cartoon I had ever seen, but and then coming
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: back to it as an adult and being like this
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: is different than what I saw before. And I truly
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: remember like how they changed the names of like yeah,
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: because I guess they didn't think Americans could deal with
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Japanese names, Like I don't know, it's weird to think
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: about now, Like how you know that just wouldn't happen.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: I don't think now at all.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: But like I don't think that we ever talked very
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: openly about how like insular American culture actually very is,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: and we're always just like being told like, oh, don't
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: look into the history of other places and barely look
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: into the history of where you're living, you know, like
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: it's no big deal, And it's very much the same
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: thing where I think overseas, because they're all intermingled, and
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: it's like, you know, the United States is so big,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: and like Indiana has a different culture than New York,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: who has a different culture than la We stayed pretty insular,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: but in Europe you can drive to a different country
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: and like get to Asia easier, and get to a
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: whole new continent and stuff, and just have a better
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: grasp of what it means to be a citizen of
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: the world and not just like a citizen of your country.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: And I think that comes through the most when Americans.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Because you said that you thought it was funny that
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: America wouldn't be able to handle the Japanese name. I
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: know that people would have been like, I can't say
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: any of.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: This I get, but it's so funny. It's like I
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: do think there's like it doesn't pan out though, because
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: when we get a taste of like anime is so
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: popular now though, and it's like all those years of
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: like I mean truly wasted potential earnings because people love
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: anime and people love manga and they just didn't give
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: it a chance, I think. And like, I mean it's
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: like scandy, you are, like, we eat that up here now.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: And I think part of it is is because we
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: love like it's part of seeing a different like atmosphere
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: and different culture. It's not just you know, it's not
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: just a mystery. You have mysteries here sat in America,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: you know. So yeah, I mean, I don't know, it's
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: it's interesting because we are very insular. I do agree
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: with that, but like when we get a taste of
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: something else, we love it, but then it doesn't. We
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: don't have the follow through. You know, I don't know
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: because we don't have to follow.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Through because like my geeky white ass, I love sushi,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: fuck me up with some bobo tea. I love a
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: bobo tea. But I know that if I went to
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: real Japan, and I've never been, if I went to
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: like sushi and a bobo tea place, I'd have to
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: look at someone to help me and be like, excuse me,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I'm a dumb American. Where's my California Role. I don't
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: only eat the California Roll, but it's very comforting for
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: me to have it, just because I order something I
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: don't like, like comforting. Where's my mocha Java lata bobo tea?
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Do you have that one? You just have brown sugar? Okay?
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: And like I love ramen. I love ramen, but I'm
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: also and it's the same where like America is so
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: excited for Singo Demayo because it gives us a reason
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: to drink tequila and forget about anything we've ever done
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: to another culture or country. And it's like, I know,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: I as an adult, you start to realize, like what's
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: the difference between Americanized Mexican food and then authentic Mexican food.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: And I love a Mexican restaurant that will sit, that
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: will put it right on the menu, like this is
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: your traditional street taco.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: We will make it the white people way, Like, thank you,
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: thank you for accommodating me. I appreciate it.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm like, thank you so much, because I
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: do actually only eat food if there's cheese on it.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: I do. I do have the palette of a five
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: year old.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: I do. And I wrote that joke into my sacom.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I know that you have the
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: palette of your average third grader, and I think that
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: like anime. I think. Okay, So I just watched Girls
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: the first time because if you're going to be a
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: woman who's also writing television, people bring up Girls to
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: you a lot.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you haven't watched it, because I only
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: watched the first season on DVD and then never picked
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: it up again HBO subscription for years. Never went back
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: to Girls for like literally no reason. And I watched
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: it start to finish and I was like, actually, this
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: show is pretty strong. From the moment it starts to
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: the moment it ends, it stays pretty true to itself.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: All of these characters acted in ways that I expected
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: them to act for all six seasons. Yeah, but Shoshana
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: gets to go to Japan. Yeah, which meant that Amily
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: actually got to see Japan or HBO's version of it.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: And it made me think of Phu Shane and Kawhi
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: stuff and all of that stuff that's starting to like,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: you know, integrate into our players or whatever. We have
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: now limited to Charmine, Charlie's whatever it would be. And
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh my gosh, what, Like I guess
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Lisa Frank was our touch point on like how do
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: I express myself and be the girliest, most obnoxious feminine
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: goddess I could ever be? Because that's what I think
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: of when I think of things like Sailor Moon and
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Josie and the Pussycats and Gem They were women and
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: they were just unapologetically expressive in their womanhood.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know. I think it's it's interesting because
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: you did have like a I don't know, you had
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: male energy though as well, because we had the what
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: was it, not Sailor Neptune, but Saylor Uranus. She was
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: her partner, her cousin. If you watch the early early
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Knots version edited, uh, you know she was the of
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: the more butch partner in that in that relationship. But yeah,
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know it was I just felt like it
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: was her girls. It was definitely a show for girls,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: I think, absolutely yeah, But it wasn't like, I don't know,
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: it's hot girls to be strong though. It wasn't like
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: you could be really girly, but you were. You were
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: there to fight evil, you had to save the world.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Like you weren't trying to go to college, you weren't
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: trying to create dinner. I don't think she ever does
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: any chores or like she doesn't basically or point yeah,
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: I don't think she does anything except basically fight evil,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: hang out with her friends and eat and eat and
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: failed tests some field tests.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: She's my icon.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: I know what a hero like, and like I hang
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: out with her friend who maybe was a little too off.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: And I think my biggest chip on the shoulders is
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: like if you're if you grew up as a millennial
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: and you remembered what it was like to be like
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: a female athlete or a female comedian or anything like
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: in a male centered role. The first point of advice
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: you'd ever heard was, now, don't be too much of
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: a girl about it, Like, yeah, you can't do a
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: stand up in a dress. I like, you can't. They'll
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: have you, they will respect you. And I think it
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: is so important for us to have like because I
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: also think of like Marvel superheroes because like it was
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: the Marvel movies and then we get one every day,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: and even except for maybe X Men, because x Men
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: has such a large cast of people. When I think
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: of like Black Widow and Wanda Maximo and like, you know,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: the only time I really saw them do anything truly
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: like real feminine and weird with Wonder Woman over at
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: DC is when we went to nineteen eighty four and
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: everyone hated that movie but me, she gets to wear hairspray.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone hated that movie.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Everyone hated that movie. Everyone told me I was big wrong.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Everyone loves to tell me that I'm big ron about
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: thora Radnarak and Love and Thunder, And I was like,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: these are the best of Marvel movies. Because I don't
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: know if people understand this, but like comics are silly, yeah,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: manga a lot of them are kind of silly, like
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: it was supposed to be silly and fun.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing, is like the over the top
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: miss is the point, Like I love that about manga
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: and anime. Is like, you don't missed the point because
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: they're so over the top. You the expressions are, you know,
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: they're very clear. You're not wondering if this person is
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: mad or sad or happy. It's very obvious.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, literal, like rainfall comes out of their eyes when
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: they're sad. That's my favorite part. But the facial expressions
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: are my favorite parts. And I feel like and this
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: could be because of my mom. My mom hates Camp.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: She cannot watch the American version of The Traders because
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Alan Coming's outfits just too much for her. She's like,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: why does what what a incorrect? I told her she's
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: big ron. I was like, stop talking about my king
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: like that. She's like one time I was watching and
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: he wore moss and I was like, that was my
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: favorite outfit.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Did she see the matching dog outfits?
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I know, And she's like, why does he act
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: that way the entire time? And I was like, Camp.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Guys is having fun.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: And like I have all of these memories of loving
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Broadway and musicals and stuff. And then I realized my
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: mom only ever took me to Mama Mia and then
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: immediately stopped and I went and saw Wicked and everything
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: else with other people.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: I was like, Mama Mia, this is not theater.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: He loves Mama Mia. But Mama Mayda doesn't really have
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: that much camp. It's just a lady who who has
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: a couple of suspects on who could be her baby daddy?
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Tell sorry, yeah, just tell with the music of Abba
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: and But so, I don't know if when I was
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: a kid, every time I saw something that was like
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: very dramatic and over the top and campy, there was
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: a part of me that went, eh, like I'm too
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: serious in a cap record for this, I'm too smart
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: because like again, my sister and I have only just
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: clopped in because I was like Emily, mom hates allan
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: coming and I don't know how to handle it. And
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: she's like, well she hates yeah, like she she wouldn't
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: like anything that we do.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Now, that's so interesting. Yeah, I always wonder if people
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: like that they just don't get it, you know, they
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: just it's just not which is fine, you know, everything's
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: not for everybody, but yeah, I was. I think it's
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: interesting because like I think, I think manga and like anime,
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: they're just I mean they're not off on some of
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: some of it's very serious, but like it's it's so entertaining,
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: you know, and I think it can be really interesting
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: and I don't know, it's just different. It just hits
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: different than American cartoons.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: And there is in Sailor Moon especially, there is such
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: a through line of like friendship. Like at the end
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: of the day, maybe Sailor Mars has a month where
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: she's having a little bit of a pmd D spell.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'm projecting, and she tries to be Sailor Moon.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: Well, she like tries to get like the others to
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: like agree with her that like maybe I should be
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: a leader, not sailor mute, and obviously I'm better and
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: like everything in her, don't you guys agree? And but
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: eventually like there's you know, of course, like a big
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: bad comes around and they have a battle and she's like,
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: you know what, she is the chosen one, I guess.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: You know, and we always wrong. Yeah, I know.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: It's interesting because like there's this like there's this element
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: of like, essentially Sailor Moone is the chosen one, So
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: there's like there's that aspect to it. It's not necessarily
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: anything she does, it's just who she is and you
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: can't escape that.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Just like Buffy Summers. We did not ask to be
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: the chosen one. Yeah, when when women are like too
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: like uh, they feel like they can't talk to me
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: about anything. But because my only hot take is like,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: well that's because of patriarchy, I'm like, I didn't ask
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: for this role. This role found me. I asked, I
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: just see it, that's all, And she asked me the
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: chosen one. She was surprised when that cat came up to.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: Her and literally started talking.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: I just started talking, Sabrina spell spelling, Sabrina spell. Then
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Sabrina Spelban woke up one day, was sixteen years old,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: and they were like, you're a witch.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: Which I honestly dream about my dream.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: I kept waiting, and it turn out I am the witch.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: It just doesn't look like it looked on Team Witch
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: like I don't. I can't make anyone wrap and I
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: find that very infuriating.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: And if I ever find a cat with the little
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: cresset man on its forehead. You'll never see me again.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you that right now. And can we just
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: talk about how like this transformation seems like they're nail
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: polished and then all of a sudd and you're just
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: like you're in this new outfit and it's so cute
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: and like you got a tiara slash headband like little
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: hair clips. I mean, come on, come on.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: I just revisited one of our Taylor Swift themed episodes
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: about the Tortured Poet's Department, and it was about the
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: song Peter and I was talking about how like Wendy
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: wasn't having a great time in never Land and she
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: didn't really ask to be swept away to never never Land.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Peter Pant just kind of made that choice for everybody.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: And then he was like, raise all of my kids,
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: all of these random kids I've collected and also didn't
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: ask if they wanted to come to my island. They're lost. Yeah. Yeah,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: And I had kind of been like and it was
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: like yeah, because like that's the thing, Like there is
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: like a lot of pain and nuance to girlhood and
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: a lot of things happened to us. So when we
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: have these like pockets of like parttoon Glittery Joy when
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: you're like they even made sure to include her nail, Paul.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: That's all I want, I know.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: And it's like they all have like I loved that.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, I keep referencing back to those Spice girls.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: I think that's cosaps what I identified them with, because
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: they all had like they all had their own roles.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Like again, like Saylor Mercury was a smart one and
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: she played chess. Got a whole episode around how she
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: was so good at chess, and she was, but she
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: also was like her element was like water and say
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: their mars her element was fire. Like it's just you know,
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: like they really had a whole lore behind all of them,
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: I which, you know, I love that, you know, they
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: got like a backstory.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: And I think everyone should explore their girlhood lore because
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: I do think that we are set up as women
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: to experience friendship in some sort of like hierarchy like
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: that where it's like one of you is the chosen one.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: I still remember her name, who mine was? Yeahn't me? Yeah,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: my best friend and I still talk about our chosen
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: one and how we love to reconnect with her. Oh
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: we're like, where's our chosen one, and then you have
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: like the smart one, and that's usually where I fit in.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm the funny one, but usually my best friend
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: would take, oh, we're about equally as smart and funny,
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: so we would just flip flop between the two of those.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: You know, you have your weird one. She's like a
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: poet and she wears black all the time. And were
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: you the weird one? I just said that, which which,
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: uh where did you fall in the hierarchy?
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: I fell into the smart one. I didn't. I didn't
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: get into poetry, so college.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Sad like, well, I didn't get into witchcraft until I
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: was an adult, and I was like, this is hard
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: and I have to start meditating. It's never too late,
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: as they say, But like I do think that, like
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: every friend group has like a Stevie Nicks, a Barbie
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: Doll and right, yeah, like from the Black Lagoon.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: It's like you fight against like that. It's like we're
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: not a stereotype. And then like you're like.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Maybe we are stereotized, but what if we like literally
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: celebrated it, Because what if that's what community is supposed
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: to be, that we're all just filling in the niches
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: and pockets that our chosen one can't, and our chosen
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: one is also filling in pockets and needs for us.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what if we just made cool women are
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: higher power? Again, Like we're eleven year old.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: But let me ask you this, how would you react
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: if your daughter from the future, who is annoying as hell,
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: owed up when you were like sixteen ish. Yeah, and
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: constantly fought you for attention of your current boyfriend who
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: is her future father.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: No, that's gross. Someone has to explain that.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: Webs the weirdest life.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: But also is it. I've never seen the Back to
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: the Future movies because I famously refuse to see any
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: quote unquote dad movie. So if a father has told
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: me that he likes it, and it could be anyone's father,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: I'm like you and I'll never watch it. I just
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: watched Jos for the first time two weeks ago.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: Josh is like a great movie that I know.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, here, I am thinking it's just a
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: dead movie. No, it's a great and it's a great
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: me and it makes so many points about capitalists.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: Yep, yep.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: So I see you, Spielberg, I see you knowing things.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I was like a dad movie. No, isn't
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: that the plot of Back to the Future. Doesn't he
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: go back in time and bang his mom? I think
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: they kiss? D kiss?
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: I think they kiss. Yeah, sorry if I got that
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: wrong listeners, But I'm sure I haven't watched it in
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: a very long time, but I do think they kiss.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure the Simpsons made me believe that he
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: went back in time and became his own father, and
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: like what does that mean?
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: I just remember like as a kid when I watched it,
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: I was like I didn't think about it, and that
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: was an adult I think. I'm like, man, I want
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: to write a TV show that is that bonkers, that
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: has that and get away with it because I just
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: love that. That is just so stupid and so funny
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: on so many different levels. And like she had I
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: do remember, like because she like her daughter comes from
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: the thirtieth century, which is like what is the timeline here?
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: Guys the.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: What?
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: And like it's so it's just bonkers, and like it's
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: like you figure out she's she's her daughter, but she
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: obviously has a crush on her father, which you're like, Okay,
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: there's a collegy going on there, but Also, you.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Know who else has a storyline like this is my
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: niche interest Charmed, Like the boys come back as adults
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: and they're like, you have to defeat the evil or
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: else we're bad people in the future.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. I loved Charmed.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Everyone wanted to be Terminator. I would be so annoyed
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: if my daughter showed up and I'm sixteen years old.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: I haven't even really slept with her dad yet. I
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: don't you haven't really slept with their dad. There's no
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: MTV's team Mom. I'm not getting like a reality TV
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: deal out of this, and you just continuously bother me.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I didn't know that I wanted kids,
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: but I guess that changed. Yeah. I am very into
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: time travel. I love when we play with timelines and
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: all of that. But then I do think that's the
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: reaper passions of like you bothering your family members. That's annoying.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Well, and like there's no it never gets a dressed
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: like because I guess it doesn't matter, but like, you know,
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: what's the number one rule is like you can't mess
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: with things.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Right, right the butterfly effect.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: Or yeah right, And it's like I go straight to
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: my mom and dad.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: I think the millennials are way sold on the Butterfly
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: effect because of that stupid movie with Ashton picture like
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: we loved it too much or something I.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: Did like that movie.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: I will be fair, but we're like Final Destination and
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: the Butterfly effect shaped us in innumerable ways.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: Truly. I know now we all think we're like scientists.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love fake movie science science playing. Maybe I
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: should write a sci fi because people keep trying to
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: tell me that the Meg movies are the are bad movies,
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, that's my favorite franchise. You're shitting on,
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: leave it alone. I think I'm gonna get keep watching
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: My Sailor Moon. I think I am now open to
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: other anime recommendations, maybe because there's true like Gray's and
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: had Me is coming back next week, but that or
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: in like two weeks. That literally just means that Shanda
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: will give me four episodes and then be like it's Christmas,
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: I gotta go. It'll be like Christmas.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: Often she's got checks to cash, She's given enough.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, Shana is somehow on a worse schedule than weekly
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: cable and streaming combined, where she's just like here are
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: your three episodes and I'll see you in three months.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: So she's got Bridgerton seasons to write. Okay, she's busy,
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, someone put my only comfort.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Showback on the fucking TV. So I know what other
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: anime I'm gonna watch. It's gonna be the Arcane series
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: because so many women have come to me be like
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: you have to watch Arcane on Netflix, and I was like,
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: it's a dad.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: I feel like just because a man tells you to
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: watch something doesn't mean that because I will, I will second.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: That it is good.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's based on video games, which I'm not
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: a gamer, so don't know how it stacks up. But
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: I like the anime.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: It does only take one woman for me to be like.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, no, it's really good. I really enjoyed it.
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: I actually wish there's only two seasons. I wish there
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: was more. But honestly telling me that just because a
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: man said it was good means that it's bad is
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: actually what this podcast goes against. Everything like that, everything
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: that this podcast it's against, I know.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: I said, like I was saying it and I was like, well,
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: it's going to make her math.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: You're like that's our brand for her. That is not
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: her Instagram bio. That's not her log line.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: That's like, I'm just canceling myself.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: She's going to cut that in a weird way. Is
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: there any other We talked about female friendship and the
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: importance of making sure that we to feel feminine, and
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: I just don't feel like we celebrate femininity as much
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: as we could be.
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think that I liked the show so
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: much because the focus was I mean, it was just
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: cute and fun and the style of it was great,
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: but and it was really about her and her friends
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: and okay, but in the moon, but I also just
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know, and even the again, like even the
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: villains were women. It was just like, this is about
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: ladies to the front. You know. I do want to
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: send you this. These are called the Sailor Starlights, and
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: I just want you to look at them and tell
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: me what you think about the male representation that you're seeing,
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: because these are dudes everyone.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: Because this is an audio medium, I will be look,
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: they're gorgeous. See. So I don't know if through behind
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: the banes you have gotten a chance to get to
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: know literally Lindsey She has also come back come onto
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: the show to talk about female friendships and misogyny uh
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: effect on female friendships. And she did ask me. She
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: was like, if you had to, what type of boyfriend
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: are you okay with hanging out with as a taggle
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: on to your friend. And my go to answer is
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: always a silent one. But these boys they do that.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: You see him pronounce. You said that they were men.
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're men. They are, yeah everyone.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: They're wearing like leather bikinis. Yeah, they like thigh high boots,
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: thy high boots with heels. They are a rue Paul's
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: drag race dream.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: And that's their I mean, that's their transformation outfits. And
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: that's their transformation outfits. They have long, luscious, flowing hair,
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: just like Robbie with the good hair diamond. And that
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: is my requisite, Like, should a man come upon me,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: he has to have good hair so I can call
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: him whatever. Like in the Strangers Thing show, I was
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: okay with Billy because he had good hair, so I'd
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: call him Billy with good hair. My sister would be like,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: he's a bad man. I'm like, bad, He's got great hair,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: but yeah, I see, And so this is what I
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: told Lindsay that if if I must be in the
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: company of men, I have to be in the company
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: of men who play outside of the confines of gender.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: So like, they're okay about talking about my Lisa Frank
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: of your They they own their own set of glitter pens, guyliner.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: I'm really into Thank you so much, David Bowie and
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Tim Curry. You know, I grew up on Legend and Labyrim,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: so I love guyeliner, nail polish. You know they love Charmed.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, okay, yeah, because I was in like
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: an and I won't go into it because I went
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: into it in the Lindsay episode. But I was in
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: an improv class where like, there were a couple of
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: men who could who simply could not play and be
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: in a scene with me because I would focus on
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: the feminine and it won't even be on purpose to
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: make a point. It's literally the only thing that I
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: know how to do. And improv you have to think
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: of everything on the fly. So I'm gonna talk about
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: my cat, and I'm going to talk about the dangers
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: of online dating. I don't know, and they and they
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: would literally just change the topic and that's the number
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: one rule of improv. If I say something, you have
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: to yess and me, you don't get to change the
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: topic on me, right, I would get stubborn and a
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: cert my femininity and the like, and then it would
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: just fall apart from there. And then there was a
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: gentleman who would just start a scene and kind of
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: took a good gander of where we were all at
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: as performers, and then pulay on our level. And he'd
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: be like, mamly only like speaking to women, gays, they's girls,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: gays and things only, and I will give her that opportunity.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: And I loved him. I loved playing with him because
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: you never I don't like to feel like I have
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: to beg you to find common interest in my thing,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: just because my thing is the powder Puff Girls.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: Shout out to the powder.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: Puff Girls and like you're like, you know, the power
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Buff Girls. I love football. I don't like anything about
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: football ever, but I will at least nod alone while
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: about it. And I will make fun of the bears.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: That's the one thing I know how to do. I
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: be like hon them bears. Don't even tell me. I
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: already know they're doing bad. But like, it's that for me,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: It said, there's something and I see women do it too,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: especially as like trad wifery and Pickneys are coming back
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: straw where it's like our natural inclination is to shy
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: away from anything that girls like. Like we were taught
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: to that pink stout a cool color and that boys
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: can't like paint. And you know, a lot of Pickney
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: tradwives threw a fit when Target stopped color coding the
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: aisles for toys, and they were like, how well, I said,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: my husband to buy Christmas presents for the children. If
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: he doesn't have blue for boys and pink for girls,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: that's the only thing he knows about them.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: I just the way we expect nothing from daughters. I mean,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: I just cannot.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: I can't. I can't, I just can't. So we had
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: to have a fit about blue and paint in the
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: way that like even sometimes like and I know I
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: did it as a kid because when I was a kid,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: all I wanted to do was to not be, you know,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: the chosen one. Now, I'd love to be the chosen one,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: but not all I wanted to be was the chosen one?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? I wanted the best hair. She
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: had the best hair. She has the best hair, you know,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: and I don't have good hair, Like I have some
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: massage it every day to try and like.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: Her hair with the like which that style is now
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: back with the little you know, the spaceball bones and
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: like like how long it was like looking I'm like,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: good God, can you imagine the upkeep?
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: But like I do think like I do remember that
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: there was such a like there's this performance part to
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: girlhood mmm, where you have to love all of the
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: things that you love, will also be ready to make
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: fun of them in a moment's notice, because you also
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: need to fit in with the group within whatever your
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: role is for the hierarchy.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's like it's kind of like you have
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: to like die to yourself a little bit on the inside,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: and it's it's like the way to get free of
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: that is really hard, and sometimes you can't until you're
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: until girlhood's long, long over, and it's kind of hard
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: because like I look back now, like, uh, I feel
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: like that's part of why, like as adults we buy
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: toys like our our childhood toys again, like I collect
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: the land before time. Oh yeah, I mean don Blue
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: shout out to shout out to Don Blue. I kind
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: of love the man. Well, I mean he's problematic. Nobody
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: tell me, because I really love a lot of his films.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know if he was a bad guy and relie.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: Like you always rub them at risk on the internet,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: Like I know, like.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know if he was a bad guy in
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: real life. I haven't done the research, don't. I really
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: don't want to know because I love so many of
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: his films.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Not ten minutes ago, I was like, I'm in love
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: with Jason Stadium, and I know it's like how he actually.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: It's like you never know. No one is saying you
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: just don't know, but like I collect the like old
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: toys and stuff like that from them to see like
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: on emay and stuff allo for them, and it's like,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: you know, just serve no purpose, but's just making me
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: happy when I see them. And it's just funny because
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: it's like as a kid, I love those films so
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: much and it's just some way to like connect back
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: with like your childhood and I still watch them sometimes now,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: but like it's it's it's weird because like if you
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: had asked me as a kid, if I liked them.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: There was definitely a time frame after a certain age
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: where I would definitely except like, oh not anymore. No,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: I don't, I don't like them anymore. There was never
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: a point in my life where I didn't love the
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: ram before time. There's never in my life where I
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: wouldn't have died for little Foot.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my. And maybe that's why we don't have
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: a clear cut on like when Girlhood left us, because
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: it's always depth to buy a thousand cuts. It's all
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: ye small betrayals that you make to yourself and Lisa
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: Fray and land before timing, your Barbie dolls and all
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: of it. My big thing to collect now is stickers.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: I'm covered in stickers at all times because I junk
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: journal now. So now I'm like, oh, but I make
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: a thing.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: Oh I love that. I love stickers. I like the
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: Happy Planners and like their little sticker sets. I love
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: getting them on sale. I like Michael's or Apparents.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: And I always tell people that they'll know that I
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: the moment that it clicks in my head, that I
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: only quote unquote made it, and that I get to
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: just be like a rich, eccentric old lady, which is
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: my only dream, and it's because my house, you know
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: those Christmas villages like Grandma's put out for Christmas. Yes,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: I want to do something similar, but with fairy garden stuff,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: because fairy garden stuff is all just like tiny little
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: bathrooms and living rooms and cars and stuff, but for fairies,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: and you're supposed to put them outside, but I'm never outside,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: so I just want to. I just want little vignettes
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: fairies on all of my shelf and services. Mm hmm, yeah, yeah,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: I love that. Yeah, and I if I see a unicorne,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: I buy an unicorn. I don't know, I know, it's.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: Like what age should you realize your money was yours
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: and you could use it to buy things you liked?
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: You know. I recently stopped hearing that my squash mellows
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: could be visible in my tech talks because I'm like, oh,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: no one's making fun of her own women for having
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: squish milos. They can actually be in my tiktoks, that's okay,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: along with my Ezama lotionit. I've also stopped iiding that
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: from my pants. Yeah, yeah, like sorry, I have ezema.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's always in the shot because I
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: always already have it.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm an adult. I don't tell you.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know next to mysh mellow, I know.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: It's just funny because it's like why don't we like pretend?
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, but like at some point
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: in my life, for probably I had fifteen is years,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: like I definitely would have been like, yeah, I used
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: to like Sailor Mud or yeah, I used to like
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: Living before Time. But now I'm like, no, I probably
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: loved it. I always loved it. I wish I wish
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: I spent more time with it.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: Honestly, Yeah, I want to Sailor Moon coloring book. Now,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: give me some stickers my junk journal. Where is the
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: licensed merch where?
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, there's plenty of merch. Don't don't worry. There's u'sahana merch.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: Like and that's another thing like I'm really thankful for,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: like it's had a resurgence because like again back in
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: the day, like it was not there, like when I
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: was a kid, Like you could barely find anything.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that my little fairy garden vignettes on
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: all of my surfaces is very polypocket of me. I
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: just be grown up pollypockets.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say like you could buy like old
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: vintage polypockets, but that actually would cost you a small fortune.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, we should do our closing ceremony or else I
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: will just continuously yell ip at you to be like,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: did you play with my little pony? I think I
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: can get back into it. Do they still make my
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: little poundhouse or what a poundhouse? Puppies?
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: Pound puppies?
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't know. Are there my little
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: pet shop? Do we still got that? I could get
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: back into it. I have nephews now. I feel like
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: last year for Christmas, I wasn't gonna get my nephew
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: anything because kids get a lot for Christmas. And he
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: was not too yet, so I was like, he's never
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: gonna remember that. I am some. And then they came
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: out with the Britney Spears Fisher Price little people, and
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: I was like, well, he has to know who Britney is.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: And now I can teach with the costume figurines and
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: I when I presented it to him, I was like,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: this is your Christmas present. He went and then he
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: like literally banged it on the table until I was like,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: I can open it up. And then we watched all
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: the music videos because I was babysitting that day and
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: no one could tell me not to. I was like,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: this is toxic, this is oops, I get it again,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: Oh my babe. On our show, we have a tradition
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: where we ask our listeners to walk away with a
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: life lesson about the topic that we chose, and then
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: we manifest for a better future. What do you think
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: is the biggest lesson we can take away from sailor mood?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: Stick with your friends and lean in to all the
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: things that you love. Don't worry about failing the test.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: It'll be fine. You got bigger fish to fry, like
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: saving the world or the galaxy, whichever, whichever comes. First
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: time travel is not that big of a deal. Don't
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: worry about it.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: Don't worry about It's not going to.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: Mess anything up. It's fine. Who cares, Yeah, it's fine,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: don't even don't even think about it. But yeah, I
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: think the biggest thing is like, friendship is the biggest Yeah,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: the show is like, stick with your friends and everything
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: will work out.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: I need to know if female friendship is something that's
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: still happening in cartoons that are being marketed to kids now.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: I also don't know how we market cartoons to kids
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: now because of streaming. My nephew loves dinosaurs and we
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: typed in dinosaurs on Netflix, and all of the Netflix
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: original cartoons with dinosaurs revolve around farting, and we're just
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: the weirdest animation I've ever seen. So I was like,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: turn it off. I can't do it.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. That's a good question. I don't have
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: like young children in my life. I don't know.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know. What would you like to manifest and
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: hope for our general energy collective?
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: I would love to see more, not necessarily shows the
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: like Sailor Man, because I mean, they'll never be another
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: Sailor Man, right, am?
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: I right?
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: But I'd love to see more, you know, more female
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: driven shows. I loved it, I mean, the most creative
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: by a woman, most prime. But I'd love to see
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: more shows where the focus isn't on just then it's
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: okay to have it to be about women and their friendship.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: You don't have to have a man in the picture necessarily,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: It's okay, but it's not the focus. I did like
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: that about the series, and I like that the villains
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: were often women because the villains, I mean, first of
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: all the villain's outfits always on point.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: I love hot villainous women.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: The villains were so cool and often have like a
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: pretty good backstory for not always having a lot of time.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: So great female villains and that show as well, and
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: I think we need more great female villains as well.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: We do. Yeah, I think like I just want a
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: second the you know, I really hope there is. I
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: always liking it too. There was never a movie like
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: Now and Then for the generations that followed me. And
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: I think that that's like a real big upset because
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: I see a lot of younger women and young kids
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: in general just not have interests. I'm like, hey, like
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: you got a boy band you love or anything? And
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: and no. And my sister teaches high school and she
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: often says she's like, I don't know, I don't think
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: they like anything. And I think that, like I and
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: I just feel like the things like in Sync versus Backstreet.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: That was that was your life.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: That was your life.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: It was a debate every day.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: Weren't you a Christina or Britney, which sadly don't don't
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: even be ridiculous, like which spice girl are you? I
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: feel like those were all are like equalizers. And it
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: was all that we brought to school every day. We
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: brought to school with every day lenny of girlhood items
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: we could check off to talk about with our girlfriends.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: And I desperately hope that at some point little girls
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: stop destroying sphor us because they've never been taught to
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: read a Dear America book or whatever, and they and
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: they start like making friendship bracelets again and tying stream
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: into Chevron's and deciding which K pop demon hunter they are,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: and that there is like the upper middle school movies
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  Speaker 2: like Now and Then, And I mean, I was told
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  Speaker 2: that Mermaids is not a movie I should have watched
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  Speaker 2: them middle school, but it is one that I did,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm fine, Yeah, I think that I as well.
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  Speaker 2: It was not TV.
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  Speaker 3: That's not my fault, that's comin.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that is the fall of these younger
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  Speaker 2: generations is these younger generations have never been left alone
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  Speaker 2: on a Wednesday evening with just a remote and no
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  Speaker 2: idea what's on the TV. I watched The Color Purple
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  Speaker 2: when I was eight years old, sick from school, and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I love the color purple. Turned it
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  Speaker 2: on and didn't turn away from it.
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  Speaker 3: It's true. I know there's so much like unsupervised television
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  Speaker 3: that we got as kids that you know, it changed us.
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  Speaker 2: It was so possess.
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  Speaker 3: It gave us character, that's for sure, gave us have
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  Speaker 3: to talk about, that's for sure. I mean I do
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  Speaker 3: think about that, like I think of like Turner classic
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  Speaker 3: movies like that channel, like I said, which again probably
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  Speaker 3: shouldn't have been watching that at seven, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: I mean it was on TV. What was I supposed
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  Speaker 3: to do?
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  Speaker 2: My grandma used to watch The Nanny and the Brady
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  Speaker 2: Bunch of me. I just really feel like they're like,
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  Speaker 2: we did a disservice to these kids because they're not
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  Speaker 2: watching Nick at Night.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, nickod Night. Oh yeah, I know, and
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  Speaker 3: like not understanding that. I didn't understand it night actually
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  Speaker 3: wasn't for children, like those shows were not made for children.
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  Speaker 3: But I was watched but it was on Nickelodeon at night,
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  Speaker 3: so it's obviously for children. No, that's not.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, why was I watching Mad About You in real time?
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  Speaker 2: Like I who knows how old I was when Mad
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  Speaker 2: About You was on cable?
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  Speaker 3: Make it nic Jeff Persons.
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  Speaker 2: Sotoria, thank you so much for being here today and
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  Speaker 2: just letting me manically walk down memory lane.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. I loved it. I feel like I've
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  Speaker 3: got like so many things to go revisit now.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Is there anything that you would like
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  Speaker 2: you don't have to smile through anything you're tolerating, including
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: desperately wanting to watch sailor Moon but being told that
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