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Why Your Happy New Month Texts Aren't Working · Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint

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  Today on the podcast, we're going to be looking at whether
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  it's a good idea to send happy new month, brand new month
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  messages. And the reason why is obvious.
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  It's the 3rd of September as at the date of this recording, 3rd
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  of September 2025. And of course, on the 1st and on
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  the second, I received a bunch of these things.
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  So I know you've received a bunch of these things too.
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  So that's the question we're going to tackle today.
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  My name is Tavishima Aede, I'm the host of the podcast.
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  If you'd love to connect, you can call, send me a text message
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  or WhatsApp message on 08064662140.
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  So back to the question, Brand new month, happy new month.
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  We thank God we have crossed into the amber month.
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  May God see us these blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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  Is that a good thing to do to promote your business?
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  By the way, I'm speaking about these things primarily from the
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  angle that some of us are sending these messages because
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  we want to grow our businesses. Now, some of you, it's possible
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  you send these messages because you want to keep in touch.
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  If you generally want to keep in touch, then this is my answer to
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  you. Stop that immediately.
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  All right, Everybody's doing it. You're clogging up my inbox.
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  Same thing with your mumsy. You're clogging up your mumsy's
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  inbox. If you actually mean to tell
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  your mumsy happy new month, sit down, compose something for
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  mumsy send. Compose something for Popsy
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  Send. Compose something for Uncle
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  Clitor's send. Compose something for Auntie
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  Agatha. Send.
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  Of course, it's going to take up your time, but at least when
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  Auntie Agatha sees this thing, the message in her inbox will
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  say, oh, that's my beautiful niece, my sister's daughter.
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  She's the only one that cares for me.
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  Oh my God bless her. May God bless her.
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  Oh, this my child. So stop sending on this generic
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  Happy New Months, you know, send it and then just blast the share
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  to everybody. So your uncle knows that this
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  thing is not genuine. Your mumsy knows that this happy
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  new month you're sending her is not genuine.
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  So if it's for personal reasons, stop sending these messages.
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  Sit down and craft something personal and then send.
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  So that's for those of you personal people.
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  Now let's move straight to business.
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  Now, is it a good idea to send brand new month and happy new
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  month messaging to promote your business?
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  Now, in a sense it is because what you're trying to do is
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  you're trying to remain top of mind because if you're toasting
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  somebody to do business with you, it's not a good idea to
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  leave the space to just be, you know, like that.
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  If you talk to somebody 1st of March and the person says I'll
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  be ready like around, I kind of want ending the gap between 1st
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  of March and 31st of March is large.
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  I'll be how many days is March? 30 days are September, April,
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  June and November. All the rest are 31.
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  OK. Yeah, March 31.
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  So the gap between 1st and 31st of March is large.
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  So you guys look for a way to keep in touch ways that you show
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  up in the inbox every once in a while.
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  Let people remember you, Nasha, you're still there.
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  So that's what we mean when we say top of mind, Nasha.
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  People just they see you small. So the whole point of these
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  things. Happy new month, happy new Year,
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  happy Sunday, Happy Monday, Happy Valentine, happy Easter,
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  happy Salah, happy Del Maloud, happy.
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  You know, that's the whole point.
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  Stay top of mind. So in a sense that is good.
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  However, excuse me, the problem with this approach, brand new
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  month and every every is that the one is repetitive and it
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  doesn't add value to people. Then everybody does it.
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  Because of that, it is easy to ignore and it just becomes
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  background noise on your phone. Let me repeat in case you're not
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  following, in case you didn't get what I'm saying #1 the
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  problem is The thing is repetitive.
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  If you don't believe me, go on. Open your phone, open your
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  WhatsApp. As you're listening to this
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  podcast, open your WhatsApp. Then Scroll down.
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  The first brand new, brand new mouth message you see.
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  Look at it, especially if it's someone who is the business
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  owner. Then Scroll down, you will see
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  that every single communication you've had from that person has
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  been happy new month. The person sent you happy new
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  month in September. Check it.
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  You'll see that the last message that the person sent was happy
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  new month for August. Then underneath that, the last
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  one that he sent you was happy new Month for July, and then
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  check happy new month for June. Then check again.
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  You, you see what I'm saying? You can catch the pattern now
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  you see the formula as is repetitive.
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  That's the only thing the person is sending it will be a
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  variation of happy new month, happy Sunday, happy new month,
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  happy Sunday, happy new month, happy Sunday.
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  Acting is repetitive as if you understand me.
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  So it's known it's not adding value to the person's life at
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  all then plus everybody does it. So the problem is not just that
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  you, you sent it to everybody in your contact list, your customer
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  that is receiving this thing. If the customer has done
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  business with let's say 50 business people this year, at
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  least ten of them will be sending him this message too.
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  So he wakes up on a Saturday morning and then bring, bring,
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  bring, bring, bring notification.
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  Happy new month, happy new month, happy.
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  The guy is ignoring all of you. It just becomes one big blur.
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  You're supposed to remain top of mind, but you are not remaining
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  top of mind in a sea of sameness at all.
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  That's why I say when you fade into background noise, you're
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  sick. Blame.
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  You just look on WhatsApp, you see the first Happ, you just
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  know that is happening. You just ignore it.
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  After a while all of them will pile up on the phone and well,
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  people just ignore. Some people will block, some
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  people will add you to do long press and they'll click on the
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  archive. Do not archive you in WhatsApp.
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  Or the worst one, Google, the messages you're sending, the
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  person doesn't even have to take action.
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  Google will use the algorithm will look and see that OK, this
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  person has sent this business has sent 10 messages to this
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  person in the last 10 months. This person has not opened a
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  single one of these messages. It will now put you in
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  promotions folder. That was before, before.
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  But then now I discovered that there's a new something I
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  discovered because I saw the option one day I open my Gmail.
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  Now Google said show me a modification.
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  He said all these businesses, you have not opened any of the
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  e-mail in the last so and so days.
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  Do you want us to click on subscribe?
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  I was very happy because he saves me the stress of going in
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  and saying unsubscribe, unsubscribe, unsubscribe.
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  So one hand, I just click on subscribe all.
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  Another time I was minding my business, another notification
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  came now, oh, you haven't responded to sources and saw
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  this message. Do you want us to block report
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  as spam? And what do you think I did one
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  hand, I just click select on all report to spam.
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  So if you don't know, Google is offering these options now to
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  consumers and I'm sure other male providers are doing the
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  same thing. So if you continue with this
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  happy new month, happy Sunday, Happy Eden, Malut, happy Easter,
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  happy Valentine, what else? Happy Halloween, happy
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  Children's Day, happy October 1st, what again?
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  You know now there are plenty. This is what's happening to you.
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  People are ignoring you. You have become background
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  noise. People are archiving you in
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  WhatsApp. And then for people who use
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  Gmail, we think is now automatic.
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  They're not even doing anything. Google is now putting you in
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  promotions tab and making it easy for people to unsubscribe,
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  easy for people to delete. Remember, the whole point of
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  happy new month is that we're trying to stay top of mind.
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  So why continue to do something that is making it easier for
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  people to forget you, easier for people to block you, easier for
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  people to deny you. Business owners, I hope you're
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  listening now. Happy new month.
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  Very bad idea. So if you want to do this thing
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  well, you need to look for ways of adding value to people's
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  lives. Every time you receive a
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  message, sorry, your customer, your former customer, or your
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  potential customer receives something in your inbox, you
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  should be aware of adding value to their lives.
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  Adding value just means if they read this thing, will they learn
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  something? If they learn something and they
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  apply, will it make their life better?
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  Will you teach them something they didn't need before?
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  You know, those are the kind of things you should be looking at.
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  You should add value to their life.
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  Now, in case you don't understand where all this is
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  coming from, it is because I received plenty of these
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  messages. One of them was, and I can't
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  remember if you call them optician, I'd be
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  ophthalmologist, you know, eye doctor.
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  I've been to them before. I can't remember where.
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  I haven't gone back anyway, but I've been to them before and
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  this is the kind of messaging that they sent.
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  So of course, I checked my inbox and guess what?
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  All their messages, Happy new month, happy Sunday, happy new
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  month, happy Sunday, happy Children's Day.
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  You understand, useless users, users.
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  So that's actually what inspired me to make today's podcast
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  episode. So I'm going to use these people
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  now, the eye clinic as an example of how you can add value
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  to people's business. I brainstorm some of these on my
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  own. You for your own business.
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  Just sit down, sit down, be calm and see how you can bring some
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  some of these things for your own business.
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  It's not hard. I bring some some of these
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  things just by just before I started this podcast episode, I
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  just wrote one or two things. You 2 you can write one or two
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  things. If coming with idea is a
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  problem, go and use ChatGPT. Go and use Gemini.
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  Go and use copilot. Go and use Claude.
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  Go and use Pez. Is it Peppers perplexity?
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  There are plenty. Pick your air tool of choice and
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  it will help you. So these are some value add.
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  Now for those of you who are opticians, I'll be
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  ophthalmologist up to you know, eye doctors.
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  If you have a website as an eye doctor and these people they
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  have website. I'm assuming that you have a
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  blog feature on your website. On your blog feature, you're
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  supposed you're supposed to be writing some kind of educational
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  things because the whole point of the blog feature on your
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  website is you're trying to instill confidence in other
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  people behind my no. Is that it?
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  Anyway, you're trying to set it up so that when people come and
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  they see you don't feel confident that this is a correct
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  establishment. That's what you're trying to get
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  people to feel. So putting up educational pieces
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  for provoking pieces on your website is a very good way to do
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  that. So you can be sending people
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  links from your website every once in a while.
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  So even if you're going to do it on the first of every month
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  instead of happy new month or brand new month, because believe
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  me, everybody says happy new month or brand new month or
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  whatever variation, how about something like you send them
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  something on the 1st of every month, OK, let's say this month
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  for instance, the message that they receive is how to tell if
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  your eye condition is curable or reversible, for instance, or
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  something like that. Now somebody like me who has
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  been using glasses for a while, wife is using glasses too.
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  My mum, she's using glasses too. My father-in-law is using
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  glasses. My mother-in-law is using
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  glasses. My late father was using
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  glasses. One of my kids is using glasses.
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  You, you see the picture here, you see the pattern, that kind
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  of headline. Do you think I'll click on it or
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  not? Seeing that me, I'm surrounded
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  by glasses on every side. To the front, people are wearing
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  glass. To the back, to the left, to the
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  right, my whole family is wearing glasses.
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  Do you think I might click on that link or not?
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  Chances are I might. Chances are as an eye doctor, as
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  an ophthalmologist, as an optometrician, as an opto,
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  whatever. Chances are if you send nothing
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  to 100 customers, I'm sure at least 30 would click on it
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  rather than sending happy new month.
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  And you know for sure that you sent to 198 ignored you.
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  If you doubt me, go and check your inbox or the happy new
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  month that you sent. How many replies did you get?
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  Maybe your mother replied begrudgingly.
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  She's not happy that you didn't compose something next for her,
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  so she's replying. But even that replies like is a
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  grudge. In fact, maybe she's replying to
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  give you a hint so that you know my son.
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  Next time send me something original.
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  So how to tell if your eye condition is curable or
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  reversible? Some people might click how to
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  care for your expensive lenses. You think I might click on that?
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  My son has glasses. I wear glasses, my wife wears
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  glasses. Anytime we have to go and fix
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  replace or something it's it's money I didn't budget for.
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  Glasses have become expensive even if you go through NHS.
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  So is it NHS? I'll be NHIS.
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  That's the government insurance something the government will
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  only remove 10K from your glass, expenses only 10K.
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  So if you go to the altar, ophthalmologist, optometrician
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  up to whatever eye doctor and they look at your son's eye,
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  they measure everything and they say auger that the lens alone
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  for this, your son is 50K. That's the lens, that's the
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  glass, then the the frame. Now you can select outside.
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  We have our selection here starting at 10,000 all the way
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  up to 120,000. And then your son says, oh dad,
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  I like this one. I like this one.
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  Unfortunately for you, the 1 he pick is 95 K.
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  And then your wife is like, no, no, come on, let's pick
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  something much more affordable and then your wife pick
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  something that is 75 K. Do the math.
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  The government said they're only removing 10K from it.
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  Then now you are sending me this message saying how to properly
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  care for your expensive lenses. You think I might click on
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  nothing or not? Chances are if you send it to
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  100 of your clients you are an up to I person.
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  I'm sure a couple of those people will open it and I
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  appreciate it. And remember, the whole point is
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  that you're trying to remain top of mind.
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  Some people might even see that message.
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  I remember that. Oh, it's been one year since I
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  went for my eye checkup last. They can now ping you to now
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  say, are you people open on Sundays?
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  Then the conversation will continue.
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  Oh, no, Sir, I'm sorry. We don't open on Sundays, but we
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  open, you know, Monday, so, so, so and so and so and so.
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  It's not convenient. You can now say, OK, but we do
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  house delivery service with an extra charge or something.
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  So, you know, you know, whatever I teach.
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  Are you continue the conversation, see these are
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  benefits of remaining top of mind and you can see that you're
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  doing this in value added ways. So how to tell if your eye
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  condition is reversible? How to properly care for your
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  expensive lenses? By the way, this is me just
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  freestanding here. So some of these ideas might be
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  good, some of them might be bad, but you know, I don't know.
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  But I'm just trying to show you that there are options.
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  Another option, you can be sending messages on the 1st of
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  every month, interesting titles, something like maybe something
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  like when I put it like when you're doing promo discount for
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  your annual review, you know the message is, oh, when was the
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  last time that you had your eyes checked?
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  Let's say you send that message in September.
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  Yes, September 2025, you know, was the last time you had your
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  eye checked in October of last year.
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  If that is the case, we have some good news.
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  We are doing a 15% discount for our loyal customers who want to
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  do annual review. In fact, to take advantage of
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  this, just reply to this message and say fast pass.
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  Once you reply to this message, when you get to the clinic, we
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  will put you ahead of the queue so you do not even have to wait.
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  Now those who also have to go to the doctors repeatedly, whether
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  it's for children's malaria or eyeglasses or whatever, we hate
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  the amount of time that we spend.
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  If you go and see doctor for because your son has a malaria,
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  I guarantee you, you're spending six hours.
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  If you want to go and see the eye doctor, it's the same thing,
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  six hours. If you want to see dentist,
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  forget it. Your whole day is gone, gone.
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  If we receive this kind of message by saying not only will
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  you give us 15% discount, you even do fast pass.
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  Like when I enter, all I have to do is show the reception is my
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  phone and they'll say Nos, put him at the head of the queue.
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  I mean, I'll forget it. Of course, we'll respond to this
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  message. So this is just two or three
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  ideas that I just did Sharp, sharp.
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  Now, if you up to Metrician ophthalmologist, up to eye
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  doctor, you will sit down in the office.
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  You are your social media team, you're your customer service
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  team. You will begin to brainstorm.
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  Are you telling me that in one hour you can come up with 15
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  mess? I say 1512 messages the only
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  first of every month you'll be sending people that are value
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  add that will help you stay top of mind.
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  Come on we're all smart. You can come up with it and if
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  you can't, like I told you, perplexity plod.
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  What else? Google, Gemini, ChatGPT,
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  whichever 1 of choice. In fact, you can even do this
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  exercise using Facebook's Metas AI tool.
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  It is in your WhatsApp already. Even me that I didn't get it
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  early. It's now in my own WhatsApp.
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  So it is in your own WhatsApp. So you can go into Metas AI tool
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  and start typing it in there. I am an up to eye doctor.
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  I want to send messages that would help me remain top of mind
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  with my customers. I'm coming up with a messaging
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  sequence for WhatsApp that is going to be delivered on the 1st
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  of every month. I want it to be around value
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  added. How will I say it now?
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  I want the messages to be value add that will educate customers
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  about different aspects of eye care, different ways of
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  maintaining their glasses, and something, something, something.
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  Give me 24 ideas that I can use in this regard.
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  Send. So that's the prompt, this thing
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  I dictated, that's the prompt. You know, hit send and you get
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  some ideas of the 24. Let's say of the 24, let's just
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  say the AI tool is useless and 20 of them are useless.
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  At least you have 4 ideas that you can send for.
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  OK, this September you can send for October, November, December,
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  and January next year. You see that?
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  If you think gives you rubbish results, at least you have 4
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  that you use from now on to January of next year.
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  When January of next year come, we'll worry again.
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  OK, How do we come up with some new ideas?
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  At least you have four months break.
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  This is how you do value add. This is how you send people
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  messages to remain top of mind on the 1st of every month.
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  In fact, in my own opinion, since the 1st of every month
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  everybody be sending these messages.
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  Don't send your own on the first.
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  Chill send your own on the 6th of every month.
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  All those happy new months, they would have sent it September
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  1st, September 2nd, September 5th.
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  So chill, send your own September 6th.
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  Send your own September 10th when the person's phone is no
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  fool because we all know that September 1st, October 1st is
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  the day we just used to ignore messages to click mark as read
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  and move to archive. All right, so that is how we can
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  do value add with these messages.
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  Now, other ideas are based on businesses already using their
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  CRM. The CRM is a customer
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  relationship management tool. It is just a tool or the point
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  of record or whatever that you have in your business that shows
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  you who are my customers? When did I talk to them last?
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  Who am I supposed to talk to next?
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  What are the issues that we're still discussing?
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  What is the outstanding that I'm supposed to do for them?
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  What is the outstanding that they owe me?
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  All these sorts of things. That is the CRM tool now.
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  Up to mattress, ophthalmologist, up to whatever, up to eye
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  doctors. You all have CRMS in your
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  business. I know that because every time I
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  go to sit down in those places, whether it's eye doctor, teeth
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  doctor, or general body doctor, you doctors, you sit down the
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  computer and you start typing in a whole bunch of stuff.
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  And then when we're done, the nurse can also see the
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  information on her own computer. So you guys already have
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  something that has all this information, but the problem is
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  you guys just let all that information sit there.
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  You're not doing nothing with it.
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  How about doing this? You already have people's
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  details, you already have ACRMI know that there's some legal
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  issues involved because because of clients, how you say it,
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  client confidentiality, you cannot allow a salesperson to
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  start looking through client records.
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  So I know that there's some legal issues involved, but you
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  know, think I'm sure with some creativity who can come up with
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  something. So using CRM, how about setting
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  personalized and call reminders around annual review?
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  If I'm chilling here, minding my business, and then the phone
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  call comes in. It's for the eye clinic.
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  And then they say, oh, hello, Sir.
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  Am I speaking to Tara Schumer? Oh, yes, I'm speaking to Tara
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  Schumer. You're the father of Susan.
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  Oh, yes, that's my son. So, Sir, I hope you don't mind.
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  We're just doing a what do you call this thing?
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  We're just doing a courtesy call.
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  How's your son doing? He's doing very well.
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  The glasses are OK. Yeah, the glasses are OK.
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  They haven't broken. No problem.
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  But Sir, you know that ideally will be nice for us to be
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  checking up your son's eyes every 12 to 16 months.
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  Say 16 months don't pass. Say yes, Sir, based on our
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  records, the last time you were here with your son was so, so,
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  so and so. Say no, it wasn't that long.
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  So actually it was, I'm looking at the records here right now.
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  We checked and we did this. We did this.
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  We said, oh, OK, actually it's true.
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  So Sir, since we're on the call right now, would you like to
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  schedule your next appointment? Would you like to schedule the
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  next appointment? You see, smooth, easy value add
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  because you have ACRM, you already have the records of who
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  your customers are, when they came last, when they are
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  supposed to call next, put in that call.
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  It's that simple. Then when the man comes in,
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  because you already have the record on file, you also know
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  the last time he came with his wife, you tell him to OK Sir,
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  you know that actually, yes, your son zone is overdue, but it
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  looks like Madam zone is going to be up in six months.
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  Yours is going to be up in another eight months.
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  How about we schedule, you know, both of you to come in for
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  another five months. You can see that setting up
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  these things, having these personalized follow through,
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  calling these people, instead of sending a happy new month, you
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  increase the chances that people come in.
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  You increase the chances that you find something wrong.
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  Maybe your guy has more cataracts in his eye or
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  something. I shouldn't have to be
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  explaining all these things. It should be obvious.
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  Instead, you will have expensive CRM that you've paid for.
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  You're paying people maintenance, paying people the
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  data charges, and then everything.
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  And you're sitting on these things and doing absolutely
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  nothing with it. Absolutely nothing.
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  It's just a wasted resource. So personalized call reminders,
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  upcoming annual review, simple call to check on somebody's eye
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  health, simple things like 1 clinic that we used where we did
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  mom's operation on her eyes. Do you know, until today, they
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  haven't called us to say, oh, how is mummy?
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  How is her eye? Is the thing still there?
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  Did her eye call out? Did her eye fall out?
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  No, single no. So you can see now that with
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  these two ideas, I just sat down and I just sketched this thing
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  on paper. Sharp, sharp 5 minutes if you
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  will sit down with your social media team or with your customer
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  service management team, I'm sure you can come up with lots
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  of ideas, but these are just two ideas that will help you to stay
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  top of mind and value add. People will remember you.
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  You'll increase the increase the likelihood that people will come
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  in to you know, to your clinic for checkup to buy glass to do
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  this, to do that. So this is how you stay top of
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  mind. Not happy new month, not brand
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  new month, not happy Sunday, not happy Christmas, happy Easter,
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  Happy Edo Maloud, Happy Halloween, Happy Hanukkah.
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  Happy. Yes, some Nigerians have started
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  celebrating Hanukkah now. Nigerians you overdue, you
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  should come down Hanukkah. Can you spell Hanukkah?
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  Do you know what it even means? Nigerians are celebrating
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  Thanksgiving. It's an American holiday.
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  What are you celebrating Thanksgiving for anyway?
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  Now chance we can overdue. So yeah, that's it.
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  That's how we stay top of mind. So if you're sending brand new
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  month because you love people, take the time out, send
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  something customized and crafted to them.
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  Send mumsy A personalized message.
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  If it is for business, just skip the happy new month thing.
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  Be sending it on the 10th of every month.
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  Let the thing be value add, increase the chances that people
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  will see your messages and actually click on it and enjoy
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  the thing and actually increase the likelihood that they'll pick
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  up the call because they have to call you to inquire something or
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  call you to schedule something. So that's it.
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  And that's all for today. Remember, if you'd love to
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  connect the number to call, send a text message or a WhatsApp
• 28:10
  message to is 08064662140. Thank you very much for your
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  time and attention. I will catch you all at the next
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  episode.