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[3/3] Live from Kansas City — How to Die (Jul 2025, Lama Lena) · Lama Lena Teachings

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SPEAKER_02: that work?
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SPEAKER_02: Is there anyone here who feels that they were a student of my teacher,
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SPEAKER_02: Wangdo Rinpoche,
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SPEAKER_02: and did not receive any of his ashes in the form of a gao?
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SPEAKER_02: Checking.
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Because I brought some extras today for those who have strong
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connection with them.
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SPEAKER_02: A hand up halfway doesn't count.
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SPEAKER_02: I can't see it.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, would you come up?
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SPEAKER_02: Let me do this first.
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SPEAKER_02: Anyone else?
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SPEAKER_02: Please come up.
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SPEAKER_02: So this is a little clay.
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SPEAKER_02: Bilblah.
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SPEAKER_02: You know I use the word bilblah a lot?
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SPEAKER_02: This is what it means.
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come on you can do it get loose one of guess what you've been
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nominated you get to
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get one loose for yourself and one loose for the other people
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who need one what I
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did was after he was cremated I got the bones that were left
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and I ground them up
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SPEAKER_02: in my coffee grinder and I put them in a baggie and I labeled it
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SPEAKER_02: Ayurvedic face back because you're not allowed to carry
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opening prayers so I see here yes good there today is going to
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be your ask Lama my
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SPEAKER_02: basic Q&A so you get to ask anything about Dharma
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SPEAKER_02: that interests you.
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SPEAKER_02: And we'll see if I know the answer.
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SPEAKER_01: I know a lot of things, but I don't know all things.
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SPEAKER_01: .
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Shere singgibardo shinlepdi Daram absantata tusunchi
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Zogchenjupe lama la solo adeb
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Ergenpema juni la solo adeb Durjichang chitilunaru dang Morpa
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mila gompo tsatsapa
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SPEAKER_03: Na pupadang pal den drupasuk
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Kargyu Lama Nam La Sol Va De B Ochen Lama Nam La Sol Va De B
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Ochen Lama Nam La Sol Va De
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Chaginwari Lama Namla Soluadeb Chakya Lama Namla Soluadeb
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Chakya Lama Namla
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SPEAKER_03: Soluadeb Chakya Lama Namla Soluadeb Chakya Lama Namla Soluadeb
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: who would like to start?
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SPEAKER_01: And really,
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SPEAKER_01: if you're going to put a hand up,
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SPEAKER_01: you've got to put it up high enough for me to see it,
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SPEAKER_01: these little...
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SPEAKER_02: Is that microphone movable or does it have to stay right there?
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SPEAKER_01: Got you.
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thanks for coming thank you uh what practice do you think is
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best for defeating the
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five hindrances you're talking about the five poisons yes
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working with emotions it
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SPEAKER_01: goes at them directly and teaches you exactly how to release them
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which I mean it's a bit fiddly you have to actually let go
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without shoving but if
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done properly they can release and go to their natural state
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which is the five
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wisdoms for example think of the natural state of your tits
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when you're not wearing
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a bra right or guys I guess when you're not wearing a jock
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strap how they hang
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so as long as you've got on that bit of underwear they can't
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take their natural
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shape you wear it because for some reason their natural shape
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is a problem for the
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activity you're doing you're running and you really don't want
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to get hit in the
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chin with them or the knees in the case of guys so but if you
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want those parts of
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SPEAKER_01: you to take their natural shape and emotions are parts of you
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SPEAKER_01: they're part of the vitality of the Sambhogakaya they're the essence of
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Sambhogakaya then you gotta get the thing that's constraining
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them off once you do
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that and you refrain from putting something else on you know
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like holding them up
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left to their own devices for a few minutes they will take
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their natural shape
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the five wisdoms is the natural shape of the five poisons when
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they are not
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constricted by attachment and aversion when you feel anger you
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don't like to feel
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SPEAKER_01: anger it it bugs you so
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SPEAKER_01: You try to shove it away,
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SPEAKER_01: you tramp it down,
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SPEAKER_01: or you try to justify it and act it out,
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like throwing your glass of wine at someone because they just
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really pissed you
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SPEAKER_01: off.
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SPEAKER_01: If you can catch it before then,
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SPEAKER_01: before you act on it or suppress it and release it,
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SPEAKER_01: it turns into clarity.
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SPEAKER_01: mirror-like wisdom, complete equanimity.
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SPEAKER_01: But if you try to make it do that,
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SPEAKER_01: or wait for it to do like that,
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SPEAKER_01: to do that like a cat in a mouse hole waiting for something to happen,
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SPEAKER_01: it can't happen.
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SPEAKER_01: That's a constriction.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's a little tricky.
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I've got some teachings online on how to do it in a short
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version,
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if you want more details.
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in Flight of the Garuda chapters,
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I don't know,
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somewhere between 11 and 14.
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SPEAKER_01: You're going to have to fish through,
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SPEAKER_01: or someone online will immediately tell us which chapter it is.
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And I do a long version as a retreat,
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which if you wish to do,
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it's online.
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SPEAKER_01: It's an online retreat.
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SPEAKER_01: You just sign up for a weekend.
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SPEAKER_01: You sign up to that particular topic retreat,
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SPEAKER_01: when I've got 50 people that want to do it,
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which is as much as I can handle in an online retreat and still
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give individual
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SPEAKER_01: attention,
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SPEAKER_01: then we make a date and we send you the date by email saying,
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SPEAKER_01: hey,
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SPEAKER_01: does this date work for you?
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SPEAKER_01: Do you want to do it?
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SPEAKER_01: And if you say yes, we sign you up.
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SPEAKER_01: And then we let note generally to people,
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SPEAKER_01: hey,
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SPEAKER_01: we've got this many places left for that retreat right now.
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SPEAKER_01: If you want to do it, come on.
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sign up and then it happens so that's how that works for online
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retreats it's all
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up on the website and the website is fairly well designed you
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should be able to
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find it even if you're not too good at that kind of thing so
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there's my answer to
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SPEAKER_00: that what have you got thank you um I'd like to know what when I
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you what nine breaths you recommend people doing there's so
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many different nine
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breaths to do for instance before one meditates it is a channel
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clearing process
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SPEAKER_02: and I'm really only familiar with one basic method which is
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SPEAKER_02: in through one side.
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SPEAKER_02: There's an arm thing where you open your arm.
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So basically,
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who remembers if we start on the left or the right for that
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one?
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SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_02: You close the right nostril first.
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SPEAKER_02: I can never remember that little piece.
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SPEAKER_02: So your arm goes back like this and with
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SPEAKER_02: the sun finger.
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SPEAKER_02: You close your nostril and you breathe in through this one.
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SPEAKER_02: And you bring it down and you bring it around.
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SPEAKER_02: And this one goes like this.
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SPEAKER_02: And it goes out the other one.
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SPEAKER_02: Three times in on the left, out on the right.
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SPEAKER_02: Three times in on the right, out on the left.
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SPEAKER_02: And then three times in on both.
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SPEAKER_02: and into the Dantian down here,
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SPEAKER_02: where they all join,
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SPEAKER_02: about where your cervix is,
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SPEAKER_01: is where the central channel and the two sides join.
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SPEAKER_01: And you breathe out through the top of your head.
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SPEAKER_01: That's the one I'm familiar with.
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SPEAKER_01: What others do know?
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SPEAKER_00: It seems every teacher has a different one.
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I'm not sure that that's not simply their idiosyncratic way of
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doing that one.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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Because it's a basic tza clearing practice that you would do
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before tummo or any
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SPEAKER_01: other tza lung thing.
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SPEAKER_01: I really should do it more, shouldn't I?
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SPEAKER_01: Yep.
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SPEAKER_01: I have been remiss.
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SPEAKER_01: I've been just in Dzogchen and not bothering with some of the basics,
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SPEAKER_01: which will probably do me a mischief in the long run.
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Thank you so much for reminding me to go back to that and start
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doing it more.
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SPEAKER_01: And then I'll remember.
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SPEAKER_01: It's been six months or so since I've really done it.
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SPEAKER_01: And my doc says do breathing exercises, so I guess that's the one.
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SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_02: What else do we have for questions?
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SPEAKER_02: And online guys, you can also put in a question.
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SPEAKER_01: Really, you all shy or you just don't want to stand up?
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SPEAKER_00: Lama, thank you so much for your generosity this weekend.
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SPEAKER_00: I have a question particularly about tantric practices.
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SPEAKER_00: Many of us have multiple Yidam practices.
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can you give us some advice on bringing them all into a single
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practice they're all
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your yidim all of these archetypes are symbolic manifestation
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of enlightened mind
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SPEAKER_01: when you become them
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when you're doing a yoga tantra or higher,
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you become the archetype as part of the sadhana.
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SPEAKER_01: You keep a tantra altar with two rows of bowls.
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One is,
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let's see,
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the one in the back is the usual order,
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and it's bigger or higher.
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you're offering to the archetype and then the one in front is
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in the opposite order
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it's offering to you as you are both recognizing yourself in
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the mirror so the
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SPEAKER_01: front one is the mirror image of the back one but because we still
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SPEAKER_01: recognize that we have work to do.
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SPEAKER_01: The back one's a little prettier and fancier and higher and bigger.
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So that's the symbol when you're working with yoga tantra or
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higher on your altar
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SPEAKER_01: that reminds you that the archetype is your true nature,
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SPEAKER_01: not something other than you.
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SPEAKER_01: Now, all the archetypes are
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SPEAKER_02: with different emphases, the same thing.
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SPEAKER_02: So,
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SPEAKER_01: although you should check in with your initiatory teacher,
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SPEAKER_01: should they still be living or available?
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SPEAKER_01: My personal opinion is your Yidam covers all those Domsic.
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SPEAKER_01: provided you do your yidam every day properly.
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SPEAKER_01: However,
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if that is not your opinion or the teacher you are working
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with's opinion,
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the other thing you could do is simply say the mantras of the
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others without doing
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SPEAKER_01: full sadhana.
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SPEAKER_01: three or seven times or 21 times.
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And most of us have our malas divided into those numbers with
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pretty stones so we
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SPEAKER_01: can feel when we get 21 or when we get to seven.
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SPEAKER_01: And just do the mantras of the others to keep them lively for you.
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SPEAKER_02: Both these answers are correct.
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SPEAKER_02: They're not either or.
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SPEAKER_01: Which one feels better to you is less conflicted to you.
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that's the answer you should eat next question so we have a
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online question is
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there a difference saying mantras mentally whispering with
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force of breath only or
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SPEAKER_01: with throat vibration it is considered best because this is the chakra of
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SPEAKER_01: speech, which is intent.
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It's the essence of monlam,
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a wish path,
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which is how the pure lands were created.
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For instance,
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Abhi Amitabha created that easy to enter pure land by doing
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monlam.
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SPEAKER_01: Monlam requires the vibration of your speech chakra.
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SPEAKER_01: It is best
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if circumstances permit that you very softly use the vibration
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such as as the way
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to do it however you may find yourself in a circumstance i know
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some teachers did
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SPEAKER_01: when they were imprisoned in tibet
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where saying a mantra and getting caught at it would have
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rather dire repercussions
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where they simply did it in their mind and it worked anyway so
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I would say if your
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circumstances permit vibrate your speech chakra if they don't
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permit well then do
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SPEAKER_01: what you can but feel
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It's really your faith and motivation to aid all sentient
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beings that matters,
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SPEAKER_01: not the picky little stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm going to vibrate my chakra.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
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I really like that because there are sometimes circumstances
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where you can't or
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SPEAKER_00: don't want to speak,
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SPEAKER_00: so it's nice that
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SPEAKER_00: there's still an impact.
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SPEAKER_00: My question to put it succinctly is
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are all vajrayana teachers or practitioners ultimately
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bodhisattvas and the I guess
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parentheses around that is anyone like yourself or other
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teachers who I respect and
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admire and look at their path they're all out like in service
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doing something
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SPEAKER_00: meaningful and contributing to the world
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and I see this other kind of narrative that I'm a guess I'm
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like a little confused
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by which is that we're also wanting to go some of us
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potentially to pursue sort of
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higher states of being potentially rainbow body and sort of
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escape this matrix it's
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SPEAKER_01: not an either or I understand your question yes okay thank you yeah
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it does often look like it is selfish to go into retreat it has
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to do with timing
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for instance if you're out in the world doing service and you
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aspire to bodhisitta
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but you are still extremely ignorant you don't know much you
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haven't actualized the
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SPEAKER_02: meaning of the Dharma you just know the words
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SPEAKER_02: create a really big mess right um look at what has been done by Christian
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missionaries for the say it just because that sticks out like a
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sore thumb because
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it was longer ago so it's had time to make repercussions to the
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poor Africans uh
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SPEAKER_01: especially West Africa to their culture
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which had two spirits very similar to Native American and all
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of that and now they
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think that that is wrong because the British have a terror of
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homosexuality also
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they're mostly all gay but the British I mean it's just the way
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it works there so
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they've imposed some really weird stuff trying to help them
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because of their own
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SPEAKER_02: ignorance
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The danger of you going out in the world and trying to do
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things and be in service
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SPEAKER_01: too soon is your own prejudices.
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SPEAKER_01: And yes, we all have them.
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It leaks into on me when I say things I'm aware when my
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prejudice against certain
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SPEAKER_01: styles of religion,
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SPEAKER_01: not specific religions themselves,
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SPEAKER_01: but certain styles.
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um will leak into my teaching sometimes even though I try to
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hold it back because
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I'm aware of my mindset on these subjects uh my personal
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dislike of new age
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teachings because I like antiques I like old stuff I don't like
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modern furniture
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SPEAKER_02: either
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that shouldn't leak into the way i express dharma but it
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sometimes does that's an
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example so there's a time for working on yourself and it should
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be before you
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attempt to be of service and you can't really be cleanly of
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service until you're
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SPEAKER_02: clean yes it's like a paradox you will don't expect perfection
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and be willing to cop to your hangups like my thing for
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antiques and for old stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: There are some modern psychological methods that may be excellent.
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And I may have a prejudice against them because they haven't
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been around long
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SPEAKER_01: enough to be tested.
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SPEAKER_01: And I consider long enough a few hundred years.
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SPEAKER_01: That's my prejudice.
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SPEAKER_01: I have to tell you it's there.
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so that if I trip over it you don't trip in the same place oh
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yeah but that's just
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Lama Lena she doesn't like new stuff she likes antiques yeah
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all my furniture is
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really old or yeah most of it's like from junk shops so it's
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really old hmm
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so would you say rainbow body is like should we even be going
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in that direction or
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is that not at your age how old do you think I am um I think
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you're somewhere in
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your 30s or 40s okay you're good that's good I've got yeah I am
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I'm 40 I feel that
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midlife kind of thing oh 40 isn't midlife 60s midlife all right
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I love it I'll take
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SPEAKER_00: that yeah
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SPEAKER_02: Forty,
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SPEAKER_01: you're still capable of reproducing,
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SPEAKER_01: capable of falling in love,
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SPEAKER_01: capable of multiple orgasms.
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SPEAKER_01: You're good.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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Well,
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Rainbow Body's like the ultimate orgasm,
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though,
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so I don't know if...
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SPEAKER_02: It is, but... No, it isn't.
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SPEAKER_02: You can get the same thing through Treksha.
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SPEAKER_02: That if you don't do Togyal...
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when you are the time for you see when you go into retreat to
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practice togel you do
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not come out again are you really ready to go into your final
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retreat right now
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there we have the answer for you it's not time to try for
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rainbow body yeah you
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SPEAKER_02: still got too much to do create Gawa
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SPEAKER_01: This is karma, positive karma, beneficial karma.
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SPEAKER_01: Do your practices.
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Care for others as you can without dragging little old ladies
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across the street
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SPEAKER_01: whether they want to go or not because that would be a no-no.
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SPEAKER_01: And when the time comes, then, and you'll know, I'm not even there yet.
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I mean I've received the teaching simply so I could pass them
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on because my teacher
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was going to die before I was ready for my final retreat when I
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am I'll go into my
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final retreat and I'll do that and maybe it will go rainbow but
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you are not the one
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who goes rainbow please understand rainbow body is something
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that a group of people
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SPEAKER_02: create together there is no singularity of entity-ness
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so in order for rainbow body to occur and it's only rainbow
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body from outside
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that's not what you get inside thank you that's helpful thank
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you it's rainbow body
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because all the people around are capable of perceiving and
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have the karma to
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SPEAKER_02: perceive a rainbow body and a llama dies in such a circumstance
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a llama doesn't have to be a llama a yogi dies in such a
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circumstance that allows
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others to see that for their edification because they have the
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karma it's got very
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little to do with the yogi although the yogi does need to
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cooperate with this
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occurrence they can also choose not to cooperate with this
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occurrence because they
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SPEAKER_01: don't want to be bothered
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SPEAKER_02: Does this make sense to you?
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SPEAKER_02: It's not singular because there is no actual singularity.
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SPEAKER_01: What the hell do you think you are?
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SPEAKER_01: You're not an entity.
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SPEAKER_01: You're a biome.
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SPEAKER_01: Look, you know there are parasites that make babies eat dirt.
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If a little kid gets a certain parasite,
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it has these urges to go eat dirt to get more.
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SPEAKER_01: Parasite governs their behavior.
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SPEAKER_01: Anybody ever had a yeast overgrowth?
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you know the sugar cravings that go with that yeah so if a poor
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man has a yeast
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overgrowth and no money so he steals a donut who gets the karma
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of that theft him
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or the yeast they're not going to die at the same time they're
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not going to
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SPEAKER_01: reincarnate together whose karma
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SPEAKER_01: The question is the gift.
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SPEAKER_01: There is no answer.
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SPEAKER_01: You're a biome.
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SPEAKER_01: And since we're breathing the same air,
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SPEAKER_01: by now you're part of my biome and I'm part of your biome because,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: it goes back and forth and we've been hugging.
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SPEAKER_01: So some of the skin biome is transferred.
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SPEAKER_01: We hug each other.
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SPEAKER_02: And then mentally, emotionally, you have ideas.
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SPEAKER_02: When you say things to me, ask me questions, you give me ideas.
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SPEAKER_02: Now they're part of me, part of my mental makeup.
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SPEAKER_02: When I say things to you in response to that, I give you ideas.
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SPEAKER_02: Now that's part of your mental makeup.
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SPEAKER_02: What the fuck are you?
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SPEAKER_01: You're a clump, a bilbla.
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SPEAKER_01: of influences of every book you've ever read,
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SPEAKER_01: every movie you've ever seen,
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SPEAKER_01: every friend you've ever talked to,
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SPEAKER_01: every lover you've ever had,
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SPEAKER_01: every pet you've ever cuddled,
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SPEAKER_01: all of it as a clump,
31:30
SPEAKER_01: and that clump thinks it's you,
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thinks it's a singular entity and there's a boundary around it
31:37
called skin.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, fuck that.
31:41
SPEAKER_01: Uh-uh.
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SPEAKER_02: Can you begin to feel what Rainbow Body might be?
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SPEAKER_02: as a group endeavor.
31:51
SPEAKER_01: You got to see some,
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you got to be someplace in your final retreat where the people
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around you will be
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SPEAKER_01: inclined to see rainbows.
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SPEAKER_01: Otherwise, they'll see something else.
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SPEAKER_02: This is the essence of Bodhisitta.
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interconnected interpenetrating treat others as you would your
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left hand you're
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usually pretty kind to your hand aren't you you know you don't
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leave it out in the
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cold you don't put it in too much heat and burn it you don't
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smash it with things
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SPEAKER_02: well yeah you don't end where you think you do
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SPEAKER_02: Go ahead.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_00: Actually, I think this might be real connected after all.
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SPEAKER_00: Recently, the Dalai Lama said that he was going to start his transition.
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SPEAKER_00: And as a group,
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SPEAKER_00: as a universe,
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I wondered what kind of practices would be most beneficial
33:41
during this time and as
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SPEAKER_00: he begins that and throughout it.
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SPEAKER_00: for the well-being, for his well-being, but also for the universe.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_01: Not particularly worried about his well-being.
33:55
SPEAKER_00: Well, it might be nice.
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SPEAKER_01: Manny's.
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SPEAKER_01: Dead simple.
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SPEAKER_01: He is, after all, the avatar of Avalokitsvara, Jen Razek.
34:12
SPEAKER_01: So probably just lots of Manny's
34:15
SPEAKER_02: offered as Gawa to the universe.
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SPEAKER_02: This will be hard on the Tibetans.
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I hope the young Karmapa is willing to step forth as the
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spiritual leader.
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SPEAKER_01: He's an interesting kid.
34:34
SPEAKER_01: Not at all like his previous, but he's not inflated yet.
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SPEAKER_01: I think he's just barely in his 30s.
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and it's usually somewhere in the mid thirties to the late
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thirties that they
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SPEAKER_01: suddenly go the tulkus and then they have their full power.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes, go to the microphone.
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SPEAKER_00: I mostly asked this from a point of ignorance.
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SPEAKER_00: You said Karmapa in the singular.
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And I've thought for a time that it may not be clear to people
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who is or isn't the Dalai Lama.
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SPEAKER_00: There could potentially be two claimants at the same time.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, there will be.
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SPEAKER_00: And so do you have any advice on navigating?
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SPEAKER_01: Well, he said he's going to be the female one.
35:36
SPEAKER_01: That he was coming back female if he came back.
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um there will be one put forth by the Chinese government
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followed by the new
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Kadampa which is a Chinese sect of Tibetan Buddhism uh
35:53
politically uh anti-Dali
35:56
Lama or anti this Dalai Lama and the like it's a political
35:59
stand Tibetan do not
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ever involve yourself in Tibetan politics seriously it's worse
36:07
than American
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SPEAKER_01: politics
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SPEAKER_01: The only difference is we use guns and they use poison, but same shit.
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SPEAKER_01: Don't.
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SPEAKER_02: There were two Karmapas this time.
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SPEAKER_02: But I believe one will have the political power.
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sharmapa has been a bad boy for a number of generations and
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he's always rebelling
36:39
against something I really like sharmapa but his karmapa
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although a very kind and
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wonderful man did not take to the imagination of people and the
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Dalai Lama's car
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SPEAKER_01: and Situ Rinpoche's karmapa did but sharmapa always does that
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, life upon life, he's been in political trouble.
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SPEAKER_01: That's him.
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SPEAKER_01: He changes slowly because he gets the same conditioning in each life.
37:14
SPEAKER_01: That's the problem with getting recognized young.
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SPEAKER_01: You have to live the same life over and over again.
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SPEAKER_01: It's just a repeat.
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SPEAKER_01: At some point, some tulkus get tired of that.
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SPEAKER_01: and don't get themselves found.
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SPEAKER_01: There's known to be certain hiding places.
37:37
SPEAKER_02: Did that answer your question?
37:41
Say your question again,
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just so I make sure I didn't leave something out.
37:54
SPEAKER_02: See, wait and see.
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SPEAKER_02: One of them will somehow
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SPEAKER_01: I would be suspicious of anything the Chinese government brought forth.
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SPEAKER_01: I would be more likely to follow the current young Karmapas pointing.
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SPEAKER_02: But that's me.
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And I'm fairly I've been I've been fly on the wall when they
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don't know I speak the language.
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SPEAKER_01: For a lot of Tibetan politics.
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and around his holiness the Dalai Lama you know like being
38:37
invisible me and getting
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to see you know who he is when he's alone and stuff because
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nobody can see me
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because I'm invisible because there's no such thing as a female
38:47
translator you see
38:49
so I can just be there and like oh well it must be one of the
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servants and they
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totally ignore me and I listen to everything I'm terrible that
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way but you'll learn
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SPEAKER_01: a lot of neat stuff so when I have
39:05
enough understanding of Tibetan politics to know I don't want
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to touch it with a 10
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foot pole but then that's my feeling towards American politics
39:15
except that here
39:17
sometimes it's a matter of self-preservation it will affect
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your personal life
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SPEAKER_01: sometimes and then you got to make some decisions
39:28
they're usually it's up around there and doesn't really change
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your personal life
39:34
which is your own business because Tibetans don't organize a
39:38
lot they're like cats
39:42
I've herded Tibetans trying to get like a dozen Tibetans to the
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doctor to the eye
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SPEAKER_02: doctor enough said next please
39:57
SPEAKER_03: Hi, thank you for coming to speak with us.
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SPEAKER_00: I was wondering, wondering how to how does one love without attachment?
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SPEAKER_01: How does what one love without attachment?
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SPEAKER_01: Openly.
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SPEAKER_01: Without jealousy.
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SPEAKER_02: Without any problem sharing.
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SPEAKER_02: Without
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single pointed oh I love you most being able to open your heart
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in all directions
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there will be those you feel more comfortable hanging out with
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usually just because
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SPEAKER_01: you've done it before more often and you know them better but in general
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take the shutter when you have a light bulb and you're going to
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use it as a beam
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flashlight you put this thing on it so all the light goes in
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one direction will you
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just take that off maybe that's easier said than done I've
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never been monogamous in
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my life I have no idea how you love with that kind of
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attachment and jealousy
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SPEAKER_02: Tried it once when I was 14, didn't like it, never tried it again.
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SPEAKER_02: Question?
41:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, go on, comment.
41:47
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if I actually effectively answered your question or not.
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SPEAKER_01: But to the best of my ability, that's what I can say.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure how you love otherwise.
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SPEAKER_01: It would feel nasty, sticky, icky to me.
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SPEAKER_02: Anyway.
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So I'm going to say that perhaps some practice on realizing the
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codependent nature
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SPEAKER_00: of the horizon.
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SPEAKER_00: and recognizing oneself in everything else.
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SPEAKER_00: It might help shine that flashlight everywhere.
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SPEAKER_02: You might take that off the flashlight.
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SPEAKER_02: I'd say basic Chinrezig Sadhana,
42:38
SPEAKER_02: Lama Yeshizwan,
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SPEAKER_01: which is all about the light of vitality that permeates,
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SPEAKER_01: all about the clear light of the Dharmakaya as Sambhogakaya.
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that because there's cultural resistance you grow up being
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taught you're supposed
42:58
to you know single point your love only I love my kids more
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than all the other kids
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in the playground you know and I don't care if something bad
43:06
happens to them my kid
43:08
has to be okay and I don't care if you don't have food for your
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kids um I'm not
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going to pay for their lunch I'm only going to feed my kid you
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know that's the
43:21
SPEAKER_01: start of
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SPEAKER_02: Tunnel, tunnel love.
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SPEAKER_02: And you don't have to do that.
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There are cultures where all the adults feel responsible for
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all the kids.
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SPEAKER_01: The old African cultures that the Christians took part.
43:41
SPEAKER_01: In some neighborhoods, that's still the case.
43:44
SPEAKER_01: mostly our Afro-American neighborhoods,
43:47
SPEAKER_01: where all the parents,
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SPEAKER_01: all the adults are responsible for all the kids.
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And if you see a hungry kid and comes to your house with your
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kid,
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of course you feed it.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a kid.
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SPEAKER_01: Kids are hungry.
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SPEAKER_01: Give kids food.
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SPEAKER_01: It goes without saying in some cultures,
44:05
SPEAKER_01: but our nuclear culture,
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SPEAKER_01: that experiment that was started after World War II,
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SPEAKER_01: of,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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nuclear families rather than extended families with aunties and
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uncles and second
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SPEAKER_02: cousins and the whole village does not lend itself to that.
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SPEAKER_02: So you may have to work at overcoming that conditioning.
44:30
SPEAKER_02: That is a valid method.
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I think that conditioning is deep enough that you're going to
44:35
have to trick
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SPEAKER_01: yourself into overcoming it,
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which is why I say the Lama Yeshe is Lama Tupten Yeshe's
44:42
Cenrezig Sadhana.
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SPEAKER_01: because it's sneaky.
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SPEAKER_02: Have you all ever done that?
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SPEAKER_02: You want to do that with me for a few minutes?
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SPEAKER_02: Want me to show you?
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SPEAKER_02: It's very simple.
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SPEAKER_02: So fish out your malla if you got one.
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SPEAKER_02: I want you to remember
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a time in your life when you felt a complete unequivocal
45:27
unconstrained love for
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something if you've had a child I want you to remember when
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your baby is a few
45:35
months old right at that sweet point where they're sleeping
45:38
through the night but
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SPEAKER_01: before they're into everything you get a little sweet point there
45:45
right there and you're holding them in your arms and they reach
45:47
up and touch your
45:48
face and they're looking at you with adoration because you're
45:54
the source of all
45:55
good and your heart just opens to bursting for them so those of
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you who haven't had
46:02
a baby if you had a puppy or a kitten that you've raised from
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little the kitten
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SPEAKER_02: sitting on your chest purring smuggling
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SPEAKER_02: little batting at your chin or your puppy.
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SPEAKER_02: Those of you who have not had a kitten,
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SPEAKER_02: a puppy,
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SPEAKER_02: a possum,
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SPEAKER_02: a pet rat,
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SPEAKER_02: or something else that you have felt that love for in that way,
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SPEAKER_02: remember back to when your mama was perfect?
46:35
That's probably back to where you're a babe in arms before you
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rebel it to.
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remember the love you had for your mama when you were nursing
46:47
when she held you
46:48
when she was still perfect and was the source of all good any
46:53
of these methods work
46:54
but I want you to bring forth that feeling as a sensation in
47:01
your heart in your
47:03
heart chakra is a white lotus bud with a thousand petals it is
47:09
closed beyond
47:11
SPEAKER_01: account of middle school
47:15
you've been kicked in it what we're going to do is water the
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lotus blood bud with
47:22
that feeling of love so that it begins to relax and open and
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bloom and as the
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SPEAKER_01: petals open each one of the thousand petals elongates into a ray of light
47:43
extending out to the heart of another living being,
47:48
a person,
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a bug,
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a bird,
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a fish,
47:52
anything.
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SPEAKER_02: So as your lotus is watered and blooms,
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this feeling of unequivocal love flows through the rays of
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light off the ends of
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the thousand petals to a thousand living beings watering the
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lotus bud in their
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SPEAKER_01: heart.
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which blooms and opens and sends out a thousand rays of love to
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a thousand,
48:27
thousand living beings whose lotus buds bloom and open and send
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out rays of the
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SPEAKER_01: light of love
48:38
SPEAKER_01: to a thousand thousand thousand living being and so forth.
48:43
SPEAKER_01: It proliferates until it fills the universe.
48:46
SPEAKER_01: Meanwhile,
48:47
on the center of the lotus in your heart and on the center of
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the lotuses in all
48:53
the hearts that have opened that you can see is the mantra Om
48:57
Mani Padme Hong in
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SPEAKER_01: the rainbow colors.
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SPEAKER_01: And it turns around a seed syllable tree in the middle.
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which is the essence of the heart of vitality of the clear
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light of the Dharmakaya
49:16
also known as Chenrezig or Amitabha same difference three is
49:21
the seed syllable so
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the mantra goes round generating more of the light of love it
49:28
flows out of you it
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touches the hearts of others and opens them and transmits that
49:35
unequivocal love
49:37
SPEAKER_02: Until thousands upon thousands,
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SPEAKER_02: by multiples of thousands and billions and millions,
49:44
the light fills the whole universe until there is nothing left
49:50
but that light,
49:51
SPEAKER_01: that clear,
49:52
SPEAKER_01: transparent light,
49:54
SPEAKER_01: which is also love,
49:56
SPEAKER_01: the vitality of the love,
49:58
SPEAKER_01: the nature of the universe.
50:05
SPEAKER_03: Say it with me in any tune or speed you like.
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SPEAKER_03: Aum Aum Aum Aum Aum
51:05
SPEAKER_03: ... ... ... ... ... ...
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SPEAKER_03: So much light, so bright.
52:05
no being specifically individually the light is so much
52:10
brighter than the form you
52:12
can't even see the forms anymore just like pure brilliant clear
52:19
transparent light
52:20
pervading everything and you are that light and you dissolve
52:25
into that light and
52:27
SPEAKER_02: you rest in the bliss of vitality of that light
52:34
SPEAKER_01: Not you.
52:37
SPEAKER_01: Not them.
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SPEAKER_02: All of it.
52:41
SPEAKER_02: You are the light.
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SPEAKER_02: Sweet practice, isn't it?
53:12
SPEAKER_02: Sneaks past your resistance, doesn't it?
53:19
I highly recommend it for keeping the blinders or removing the
53:27
blinders from your
53:29
SPEAKER_01: ability to love.
53:33
SPEAKER_01: You don't have to own what is loved.
53:38
you don't have to be special isn't that Lama Tukdineshi back in
53:51
goodness like 1970
53:55
adapted that for Westerners we didn't have much in the way of
53:59
translators then
54:01
SPEAKER_01: So rather than translate all the words that describe it,
54:05
SPEAKER_01: he just did it in English off-the-cuff translation.
54:08
SPEAKER_01: So you don't have a lot of recitation there.
54:11
SPEAKER_01: You don't have to say anything.
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SPEAKER_01: You just feel it and look at it.
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Don't forget ever the first step of remembering somewhere in
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your life that love.
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SPEAKER_02: I had a possum.
54:26
SPEAKER_02: My cat found it.
54:28
and my cat didn't kill she was a really he sat the cat so she
54:32
stood over it and
54:33
protected it from all the other dogs and things around yowling
54:36
for me to come and
54:37
it was a little possum just past fetus newborn lying on the
54:43
sidewalk and alive and
54:45
I picked it up and took it home and you know she's going around
54:48
me following me
54:48
SPEAKER_01: making sure it's okay rehydrated it with Pedialyte
54:54
um it found puppy milk fed it with a dropper you know and
54:59
they're marsupials so
55:00
they go in a pouch so I raised it in the pouch of my bra right
55:05
in the middle in my
55:06
cleavage because it was the best pouch I had for a marsupial
55:11
and it grew up in
55:12
there it was great I love that little guy it was like my baby
55:18
because I haven't
55:19
SPEAKER_01: given birth but I did have you know in my pouch as a marsupial a possum
55:25
SPEAKER_01: Eventually,
55:25
SPEAKER_01: I naturalized him and liberated him out into the wilds of Oakland,
55:30
SPEAKER_01: which is where I found him.
55:34
SPEAKER_01: Oh, he was funny.
55:35
SPEAKER_01: I'd go into a cafe,
55:36
SPEAKER_01: you know,
55:36
SPEAKER_01: and he'd smell the cookies,
55:38
SPEAKER_01: little beady eyes,
55:40
SPEAKER_01: little pointy nose come out of my cleavage,
55:42
SPEAKER_01: and everyone would pretend they didn't see it.
55:49
SPEAKER_02: It was amazing the number of people who didn't look at my tits.
55:59
SPEAKER_01: This was some years back.
56:03
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, another question.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for that practice Lama.
56:14
SPEAKER_00: In the retreat you mentioned practice to help us settle in where we
56:20
inhaled through the nose exhaled slowly through the mouth and
56:24
you talked to us
56:25
about that settles your chi and you said that thoughts ride the
56:29
chi could you share
56:30
more about that thoughts ride the chi yeah it's a given what to
56:36
say about it it's a
56:37
given in the tibetan system let me see if i can figure out why
56:41
that's a given
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SPEAKER_02: Thoughts ride the chi.
56:58
SPEAKER_01: Feelings ride the thoughts.
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SPEAKER_01: The chi runs through your channels.
57:09
So how fast your chi goes and where your channels have pricks
57:19
will create what you think.
57:23
you know how sometimes you're in a grouch you just wake up that
57:26
way wrong side of
57:27
the bed where the coffee wasn't good you know for some reason
57:31
and then you have all
57:32
these thoughts about everything that's wrong even about things
57:36
that aren't really
57:37
wrong but they seem wrong when you're in that mood that's chi
57:43
thoughts riding the
57:44
SPEAKER_02: chi blowing over certain like quickly bits in your channels
57:52
SPEAKER_02: So certain practices... Clear those out.
58:08
SPEAKER_02: That's how they do it.
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SPEAKER_02: When that stuff goes down in all the little channels,
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SPEAKER_02: you find the little creepy crawlies,
58:12
SPEAKER_02: and those are symbols of your cricks.
58:15
SPEAKER_02: What it does is as if you'd been riding a motorcycle without a helmet,
58:20
so your hair is like it like that if you've ever done that you
58:25
know what I'm
58:26
talking about with your hair back in the day when we didn't
58:30
bother with helmets all
58:31
the time so you need something like conditioner you got to pour
58:37
that through and
58:39
you got to work a comb through well you think the stuff that
58:43
comes down out of um
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SPEAKER_02: Vajrasattva
58:50
as the conditioner of your channels that allows the crunchy
58:57
gnarly bits to untangle and relax.
59:03
It is natural for your channels to extend to infinity,
59:08
interwoven with everyone else's.
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SPEAKER_01: But due to your habitual self-focusedness,
59:17
and your compulsive selfishness you wrap them around yourselves
59:24
tightly making you
59:26
look like an egg when you look at Tonkas they do draw a line
59:33
around the channels
59:36
SPEAKER_02: but they don't have to that's just you're wearing a body the body has
59:42
SPEAKER_02: and they really shouldn't draw a line around it.
59:44
It's a painter's thing because the sticky outy bits,
59:48
you know,
59:51
see that sphere?
59:54
SPEAKER_02: So really they don't end there.
59:55
SPEAKER_02: They go all the way out.
59:59
SPEAKER_02: Those lines that go out.
1:00:02
SPEAKER_02: They don't end in a thing.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_02: They do for normal people.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_02: That's because you wrap them.
1:00:10
but for an archetype really they go straight out and you see
1:00:13
that they're not
1:00:13
wrapped they're going straight out they are brighter close in
1:00:19
easier to see close
1:00:20
in it's hard to see them go all the way but sometimes if you
1:00:33
look at you know a
1:00:34
SPEAKER_01: really great teacher say while they're giving a Wong
1:00:39
you'll start seeing that they go all the way out all the way
1:00:44
out and then they'll
1:00:47
bring them back into their they'll relax and it'll come back
1:00:50
into their personality
1:00:52
so there's another exercise you can do to stretch them thank
1:00:58
you Lama Yeshi who
1:00:59
SPEAKER_01: taught me all this stuff that's just so easy for people like this
1:01:17
SPEAKER_01: While you do that,
1:01:18
SPEAKER_01: however,
1:01:18
you imagine on the in-breath that your channels inflate with
1:01:24
chi and extend to
1:01:28
SPEAKER_02: eternity,
1:01:29
SPEAKER_02: past the galaxy,
1:01:30
SPEAKER_02: all the way,
1:01:31
SPEAKER_02: as far as you can imagine.
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SPEAKER_02: And then on the out-breath, you just relax and let them return to shape.
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SPEAKER_02: They'll return looser than when you started.
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SPEAKER_01: That's good for your channels to do sometimes.
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it is actually a medical thing we do all Tibetan doctors are
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taught it this
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actually this wasn't from Lama Yeji this was from Emma Lobsang
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you got to do this
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between patients or you'll get sick yeah y'all medical folks
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you know you got to do
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something between patients so you'll get sick this is what
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Tibetan doctors do yeah
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SPEAKER_02: but it's not just with your body
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you send your channels from all your chakras all the way out as
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far as you can
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imagine while breathing in slowly and then just relax don't
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draw them back in just
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relax let them take their natural shape they'll come back in
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but they'll hang
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SPEAKER_02: looser and you do that
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say if you're a masseuse or a doctor in between patients you
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know you're in the
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exam room with one patient you walk out in the hall you give a
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good stretch and
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then you walk in with the other patient nobody knows you're
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doing anything mystical
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it's easy not to get caught at it you're just having a stretch
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so that's a nice one
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SPEAKER_02: But yes, your thoughts do ride the chi in the channels.
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SPEAKER_02: So to slow the chi down, you breathe in without much of a visualization.
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SPEAKER_02: You just breathe in deeply,
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fairly rapidly through the nose and then very slowly out
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through the mouth.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes,
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this is the third day of our retreat and you've discussed
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different things a person
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SPEAKER_00: can do depending on what Bardo they are in during the death process.
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and it sounds like you have to know a little bit about all of
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them or maybe you
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should just specialize in one and I asked this question being
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on the next month I
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will turn 71 and I need to focus on what will work for me I'm
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older than you are
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SPEAKER_01: How about Amidabha?
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: It's easy.
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SPEAKER_01: It's pretty sure.
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SPEAKER_02: That simply means reciting in odd moments from Amidabha.
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SPEAKER_00: Are you referring to Powa?
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SPEAKER_00: I had some teaching in Amitabha.
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SPEAKER_02: No, I'm referring to the second bardo going for Amitabha's Pure Land.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: So, opa me la tzaksalo, my veneration to light beyond compare.
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SPEAKER_01: Om Amidewa Hri.
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That's the easiest if you think your health is very bad and you
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have no time.
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however 70 is not old I'm in good health but yeah you got
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another 10 years probably
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you know do do all the things you're supposed to do for
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maintenance um you've got
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time I would uh do the practice other bardos too I would have a
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yidim okay maybe
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SPEAKER_01: chenrezig maybe something simple maybe something more complex
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um in case you're in the um fourth bardo in case you move it
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that far I would
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perhaps practice mahamudra or mahaati for the first bardo and
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that way you've got
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SPEAKER_02: even more chances you have time if you find yourself out of time
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SPEAKER_02: I'd say Amitabha is probably the fastest to master.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's just remembering in the second bardo to call Amitabha,
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SPEAKER_01: to say the mantra and to intend yourself to go there.
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SPEAKER_02: So you should probably read up on Amitabha's Pure Land and imagine it.
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SPEAKER_00: All right.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_02: You're welcome.
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we've gone past 12 do we have much left in the way of questions
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okay go ahead thank
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you thank you thank you for your generosity and for being here
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I feel like you
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SPEAKER_03: invited us to be with you at your
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SPEAKER_03: last breath to witness what it's like.
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SPEAKER_03: So I wanted to thank you for that invitation.
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SPEAKER_03: That's how it felt for me.
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SPEAKER_03: And, you know, I don't know how everybody else feels.
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When Yungi Menjur Rinpoche was kind enough to do Moon Lama in
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North America,
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SPEAKER_03: when he came to each one of us as opposed to us going up to him,
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SPEAKER_03: I felt like my heart broke open.
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SPEAKER_03: I felt everyone's else heart broke open.
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SPEAKER_03: It was like the heart connected to the hearts connected to the heart.
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SPEAKER_03: So when you thank you for guiding us through that,
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SPEAKER_03: because it brought me right there again to that space.
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SPEAKER_03: And that's an important space.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh, it's, it's present.
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SPEAKER_01: It's present.
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SPEAKER_01: However, I cannot sit on y'all at you like an egg.
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SPEAKER_01: So you're responsible to do your own practice.
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SPEAKER_01: If a gentleman here wants to come up, come on.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_00: In the sermon,
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SPEAKER_00: dear Park,
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SPEAKER_00: the enlightened one said that after the recognition,
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SPEAKER_00: appreciation,
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SPEAKER_00: and realization of the four noble truths he reached
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Could you speak to the relationship between Buddhahood,
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Nirvana,
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and Moksha?
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SPEAKER_00: What Moksha?
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It's a term for enlightenment from the Jain Dharma,
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if that's not something...
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SPEAKER_00: It's not something I'm familiar with.
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SPEAKER_00: But could you speak to the relationship between Buddhahood and Nirvana?
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SPEAKER_02: Not without speaking to the relationship between Nirvana and Samsara.
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SPEAKER_02: May I have your book for a moment?
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SPEAKER_02: No, this won't work.
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SPEAKER_02: Anybody got some paper?
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SPEAKER_02: It's a little piece of paper and a pen.
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SPEAKER_01: Perfect.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: So here's a piece of paper.
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SPEAKER_02: It has writing on one side.
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SPEAKER_02: It does not have writing on the other side.
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SPEAKER_02: Can you separate these two things?
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SPEAKER_02: One side is Samsara, one side is Nirvana.
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SPEAKER_02: Take them apart.
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SPEAKER_02: Separate Samsara from Nirvana.
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SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_02: You can't.
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SPEAKER_02: Samsara is fucked up because of ignorance.
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SPEAKER_02: Form is simply the sparkle of the clear light nature of emptiness.
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SPEAKER_01: Dharmakaya, Sambhogakaya, Nirmanakaya are not three separate things.
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SPEAKER_01: They are three sides to the very same thing.
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SPEAKER_02: When the totality
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SPEAKER_01: of the Three Jewels is recognized.
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There is no separation between Nirvana and Samsara,
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nor between Buddhas and sentient beings.
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In the fourth time,
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outside of the time-space continuum,
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all beings are all Buddhas.
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SPEAKER_01: The dance of phenomena is nothing but the sparkle of the vitality.
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SPEAKER_01: The problem occurs when you lay weird trips on that.
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SPEAKER_01: You think it's real.
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SPEAKER_01: It's not a matter of thinking the table is real.
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It's just a matter of thinking everything you believe about the
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table is real.
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you believe everything you think and frankly at least
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personally I can say my mind
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is even weirder than the internet for having a variety of
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things going on in it so
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and you know how weird that is when you go down rabbit holes
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the strange things you
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SPEAKER_01: find there
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in open awareness awareness aware of awareness form still
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dances as form but there
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SPEAKER_01: is no need to lay a trip on it no need for accomplishment
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SPEAKER_01: Achievement or aspiration.
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SPEAKER_01: Your Buddha nature is your natural state.
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SPEAKER_01: It's been there from beginningless time.
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It will be there all pervading throughout the time space
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continuum and beyond.
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SPEAKER_01: The time space continuum exists inside Buddha mind.
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not vice versa Buddha mind does not exist inside the time space
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continuum it's made
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up the illusion of phenomena a dream a will-o-the-wisp a
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computer game all the
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SPEAKER_01: analogies old and new for samsara
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SPEAKER_01: It only hurts because you take it seriously.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah?
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Che Che Salagopashuk As all those who have walked in front of
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me have done,
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SPEAKER_01: as all those who walk with me will have done,
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SPEAKER_01: as all those who walk behind me will do,
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SPEAKER_01: I offer all Gawa created by this interaction of the weekend to all beings
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SPEAKER_01: throughout the entire universe.
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SPEAKER_02: We are complete.
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SPEAKER_02: If you are out there, am I still online?
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SPEAKER_02: if you out there have enjoyed the teaching in a language other than