Latest / The Dr. Psych Mom Show with clinical psychologist Dr. Samantha Rodman Whiten / You Know As Little About What A Fun Date Night Looks Like For Your Wife As She Knows About What Fun Sex Looks Like For You
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- 0:05Hi everybody, and welcome to the doctor psych mom show.
- 0:08Today, we're going to be talking about what a fun date night.
- 0:12Looks like to your wife and why. She doesn't know how, you know
- 0:17what fun sex looks like to you and how you keep missing each
- 0:21other in these key ways because of the lack of empathy.
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- 1:02was, what is a healthy compromise?
- 1:04Look like In your sex life, that's the most recent
- 1:07subscriber episode, okay, so a lot of women want date night and
- 1:11guys try to do it but then it turns out terrible, the woman
- 1:14hates the date. It's either boring or it's like
- 1:18literally terrible like the like bad aversive.
- 1:21Sometimes neutral is you know better.
- 1:24You know, than I mean neutral is always better than shitty but
- 1:28you know, boring is what nobody's aiming for their wives
- 1:31to be like that was like, super boring and women don't say this.
- 1:35This but like you know you can tell you could tell if your wife
- 1:39is not really kind of there on your date night.
- 1:41And it's not just because of her like it's probably because you
- 1:45too but like everything. So what do women want on a date
- 1:48night? Well, first of all, they usually
- 1:50want to things, you know, there's different kind of women.
- 1:53So a highly sensitive woman. Highly sensitive person wants
- 1:57deep conversation so I made you a hundred date night questions
- 2:00on my this was like years ago. I think I wrote this in 2014 and
- 2:04the questions Will remain. And if you don't like my
- 2:07questions, use other questions from the internet, but either
- 2:10way, you should have some new discussion topics at the ready.
- 2:15It's like so disappointing to a highly sensitive woman who
- 2:19thinks deeply all day. That on the date night that
- 2:22she's been looking forward to for weeks.
- 2:24Y'all are just talking about stupid shit, which includes the
- 2:27kids or logistical planning or, you know, just random ass like
- 2:33same kind of small talk. Talk about work and the home and
- 2:36the home renovation and contractor or whatever it is
- 2:40that you would talk about if you were in front of the television.
- 2:43So that's like really disappointing and if you say why
- 2:45doesn't she bring up the topic she wants to talk about?
- 2:48Well I mean usually quite honestly she does all the time
- 2:52and you kind of Wiggle out of it because you don't like to talk
- 2:55on that level or you always seem to get it wrong or whatever.
- 2:59So if she really never has brought up deep conversations
- 3:03then, yeah. Certainly She should.
- 3:06But usually, the dynamic that I see, is more like, the woman,
- 3:09like, most nights of the week is like, you know, wanting to talk
- 3:13and Converse and stuff. So, she's looking forward to the
- 3:15date night. Being like the one time that
- 3:18he's going to initiate some sort of interesting conversation over
- 3:22dinner. And that's why there should be a
- 3:24meal with date night. It should not just be drinks and
- 3:27allowed bar or just like a movie or a show.
- 3:30I will get to who likes that in a second, but it's not going to
- 3:33be your highly sensitive woman. That really wants to talk and
- 3:36bond on a deep emotional level. Now, if she's not a highly
- 3:39sensitive person and she's more of an avoidant person, and she
- 3:42doesn't like emotions. She doesn't like emotional
- 3:44expression. Then Thunder.
- 3:46Show it were a concert or a comedy show or whatever.
- 3:50Is really the way to go because this, you know, it's fun, it's
- 3:54exciting. It's something you don't usually
- 3:55do and if she is not somebody who wants to have a deep
- 3:59conversation, if you instead are the person who's always
- 4:02initiating the Deep conversations and she's the one
- 4:05that's A wiggling away from it, then do not stress her on a date
- 4:08night. She's looking forward to
- 4:09something that is a fun respite from the norm, you know.
- 4:13And so you got to really empathize with her and be like,
- 4:16ha, what is she wants? She wants some fun thing.
- 4:19So, let's go do like axe throwing or like, you know, a
- 4:23cooking class or a paint night or like, when these activity
- 4:27things, highly sensitive women, they may like, you know, this
- 4:29stuff too. But generally what they really
- 4:32feel close when you do is like a Deep conversation.
- 4:36So try to do that and use these date night questions.
- 4:40Things like, what's your favorite memory of us when we
- 4:43were dating? What is the most important thing
- 4:47that you learned this year from, you know, being at work or what
- 4:51is the best victory that you've had as a mom this year, you
- 4:55know, like whatever some deep thing that you can again like I
- 4:59don't want to waste my time telling you examples when you
- 5:02could like, literally I have a post about this.
- 5:04Also, you could do Of the paired app.
- 5:06I get nothing from telling you to do that but it is a nap and I
- 5:10use it it's fun and it gives you a little questions everyday for
- 5:13use with your partner. You both download it.
- 5:16But you know if you really do not know, there's also, you can
- 5:19Google New York Times 36 questions to fall in love.
- 5:22You could use some of those and you don't have to like write
- 5:25these on your arm, you know. Like you can be open about
- 5:28taking out your phone and saying I actually wrote down some
- 5:30things for us to talk about that I research and your wife.
- 5:33If she's a highly sensitive person will I think this is cute
- 5:36because it means that you care and she's always wanting
- 5:39evidence that you think about her during the day and this is
- 5:41evidence that you thought about her and you pre-planned
- 5:43something, so never lie. Never be like oh I was just
- 5:47wondering, you know, what did you learn from your mother about
- 5:51Intimate Relationships. Like don't be fake, you know,
- 5:54she's gonna hate that she's going to know.
- 5:56It's not you so just be real and in fact you get extra credit for
- 6:02planning. It's the same thing as if she
- 6:04did some crazy thing in It would you be like, oh no the fact that
- 6:07you went to the store ahead of time to buy lingerie, just
- 6:10really makes us feel. Not spontaneous or Genuine to
- 6:12me. No, fuck no.
- 6:14You would be like, wow, not only are we having sex but she
- 6:18thought about it before. Whoa, that's even better, right?
- 6:21So it's the same thing for women with planning, women love
- 6:25planning, and the more emotionally avoidant, women who
- 6:28don't like deep conversations also, like planning.
- 6:30So you don't have to be like, oh well, do I see some ax throwing
- 6:34in the distance R and Chumlee know you'd be like, wow, I look
- 6:37this thing up and my friend said that he went with his wife and I
- 6:40thought it sounded cool. So I called and now we're here
- 6:43because I thought you would like it.
- 6:44You know, any preparation looks really, really positive to
- 6:48anybody of any gender. Now, some of you are like, what
- 6:51do you mean? She doesn't know what I like in
- 6:53bed because maybe you're just like, had some, you know, fell
- 6:56on your head and had a concussion and don't remember
- 6:58all my previous podcast, but you're still insisting that she
- 7:01must know what you like in bed because she used to do it. 2002,
- 7:06you know, she doesn't fucking remember that because it was so
- 7:10long ago and again, she was drunk on new love.
- 7:13She was like, it's basically like being drunk.
- 7:16She kind of doesn't even really remember that sex.
- 7:19She remembers the Deep conversations.
- 7:20A hell of a lot more than the sex, because that's what's
- 7:23important to her and honeymoon. Stage is like, being out of your
- 7:27mind on a drug because it is being on a drug, the drug of new
- 7:31law of dopamine. Oxytocin adrenaline, all these
- 7:34things, this cocktail, Tale of honeymoon, stage limerence, and
- 7:38she doesn't fuck it. Remember what she did?
- 7:40And also, she really doesn't much like how you think that the
- 7:43date night is never going to be the same as whatever crazy
- 7:46proposal you did. Hopefully, then she thinks the
- 7:51same thing about sex now versus sex when she was 25.
- 7:55She's like, well, of course there's no overlap with that,
- 7:58obviously not, you know, same as you think, obviously, I'm not
- 8:01going to hire a fucking Sky Rider on a random-ass When we
- 8:05have a babysitter for 88 minutes, you know, like no like
- 8:09obviously not, but she would like that.
- 8:12Just like you would like the honeymoon style sex but nobody
- 8:14really realizes this. If this isn't what they
- 8:17themselves value. So that's why you listen to
- 8:19this, you know. And so if your wife has always
- 8:22been fairly board and or unfulfilled by your date night,
- 8:26you can really usually equate that to how you have felt in bed
- 8:29and you could be like, well shit.
- 8:31Maybe if I was bringing some more of my, a game in the way
- 8:34that she She needs it and wants it, then she would feel so loved
- 8:40that. She not at a tit-for-tat way
- 8:42because it is rare, that a woman will be like, well, that was a
- 8:45nice date night. I think he's going to get a
- 8:46blowjob like some women think like that.
- 8:49But like it's rare. But did she would actually feel
- 8:52close warm connected romantic more like she did at the
- 8:58beginning, when she was doing things, like giving you blow
- 9:00jobs, etc, etc. So you really have to always
- 9:04think, am I? A perfect person?
- 9:06No. Should I?
- 9:07Maybe get down the cross and stop being such a martyr, you
- 9:10know, and get like stop telling myself that I'm the victim.
- 9:15Yes, I should because probably I am disappointing.
- 9:18My partner in exactly the same ways that, you know, that she's
- 9:22disappointing me. I'm not the exact same ways, but
- 9:25the way in which she is not doing exactly what I want and
- 9:29I'm not doing exactly what she wants.
- 9:32So I should just get down off the cross and stop being a
- 9:35martyr. The Martyr Act is very bad.
- 9:39That is what you should be in couples counseling for if your
- 9:41wife has ever been like, oh, poor you.
- 9:43Here we go. You know.
- 9:45Yeah, that's a snarky remark, but you got it interrogate it
- 9:48because a lot of guys say, oh, I tried to do date night.
- 9:51I try to do date night is so you know, hard to figure out what
- 9:55she wants because she never tells me and then I'm like what
- 9:59did you do in there? Like oh well, you know, she got
- 10:01Got the babysitter stee-rike one and then we went to the same
- 10:05place that we went to all the time with no reservation
- 10:07stee-rike two. And then, you know, I made a
- 10:11couple of blowjob jokes you know just so that she kind of got in
- 10:14the mood stee-rike three and you're out and this date I was
- 10:17worse then if you stayed at home and watch something on TV
- 10:20because you actually fucking wasted money to make her like
- 10:24you less, how stupid right now, women do the same thing.
- 10:28It's like oh I had sex with him, you know, they'll report a
- 10:30couples counseling. I did what you want.
- 10:32I had sex with him. Oh yeah, how well, you know, how
- 10:36long did it last? Would you do Bubba?
- 10:37Bubba, Bubba. Well, you know, it was I think
- 10:40it was maybe four to six minutes and I he seem to, you know,
- 10:45really liked it. I can't really tell because, you
- 10:48know, I was pretty much half asleep but he should be happy
- 10:50that we're doing anything because that's progress, right?
- 10:53I mean like no, you know, I mean, I guess and some real,
- 10:58real metaphorical sense. You're four minutes of sexual
- 11:01intercourse. That you endured is progress but
- 11:03it probably made him more depressed just like the shitty
- 11:06date night at like TGI Fridays or whatever made you feel more
- 11:10depressed. So everybody Who's acting like a
- 11:13martyr that thinks that you know they're doing their tiny little
- 11:17bit of work and they should be getting this huge gratitude
- 11:21bolus and you know from there from their significant other is
- 11:26is you know, delusional like don't be delusional that's going
- 11:30to be my new catchphrase of this.
- 11:31Go don't be delusional. Don't tell yourself that?
- 11:36Because you are doing like the literal like
- 11:39bottom-of-the-barrel effort to speak.
- 11:42Somebody's love language that then they are going to be
- 11:44jumping up and down for Joy because they're not.
- 11:46So just to kind of then summarize for the date night in
- 11:51a very practical way. If there are children involved
- 11:54young children, you get the babysitter you tell her when
- 11:57it's going to be you book a reservation at someplace nice.
- 12:01You're always complaining that she never looks nice anymore.
- 12:04With the fuck does she have to dress up for, right?
- 12:06I mean, if you're not taking her anywhere, nothing she goes
- 12:09nowhere, she does nothing. I'm sure you've heard this.
- 12:11So if you want her to dress up and look nice and be sexy and
- 12:16be-- in the same head space that she used to be in, in the early
- 12:20relationship, you never going to recover the honeymoon stage.
- 12:22You're not 25 anymore either, but if you want her to be in the
- 12:26zone for feeling sexy, then take her somewhere up.
- 12:29There is sexy and fun. Different where women are
- 12:33dressed up and in, you know, if you don't want her to only be
- 12:37schlepping around in sweats. A common thing that I hear from
- 12:40men to the point that I have a podcast about it when you don't
- 12:43like how your wife dresses, which you should look up, which
- 12:45I totally understand women, don't find it very attractive
- 12:48for men to schlep around and sweats, either by the way.
- 12:51So then give yourselves both a reason to be dressed up, look
- 12:55different than usual. You know, she doesn't have to
- 12:58worry about the sitter, it's a nice place.
- 13:01You know, she can get a cocktail, she can relax, you
- 13:05guys are going to have fun. It's like, you know, a different
- 13:09from the norm at the stage of monogamy that everybody
- 13:12listening is at different from the norm is almost unilaterally,
- 13:16good uniformly, good rather. You know, because like did
- 13:21everything. So boring, you got kids, like,
- 13:24you do the same shit all the time because that's what's good
- 13:26for kids. It's good for them to have a
- 13:27routine. That's good for their little
- 13:29developing sense of self and You know, you the same thing family
- 13:33dinner, then we do this, then we do that.
- 13:36Okay, cool, that's nice. But like adults, you know,
- 13:39you've already lived Feels Like A Thousand Lives by like noon
- 13:43and it's like, it can be ownerís to be an adult.
- 13:46So why not give each other fun, sexy respite from this like, you
- 13:52know, monotony I mean, really like if you look at it, like
- 13:56very practically instead of getting your ego involved and
- 14:00who did more and I try when you don't really try and whatever,
- 14:04whatever then you could see, oh my spouse is probably fucking
- 14:08bored with their whole life and maybe I could do a little bit to
- 14:11help them, whether that's in the sexual realm.
- 14:13If you're a woman to a man or in the case of a lower libido, you
- 14:17know, flip it. But the genders, if you need to
- 14:19whatever or in the case of a woman who is as a man, Could
- 14:24give my wife, a fun, exciting date of whatever.
- 14:27Genre she given her natural predilection to enjoy or not
- 14:31enjoy. Emotional conversations would
- 14:33like to have and also added another location.
- 14:37That's always a baller move. It's not just dinner, I dinner
- 14:41and then it's drinks somewhere else.
- 14:43Or, you know, if she doesn't drink than his dinner, one
- 14:45place, and desert in another place or if she doesn't drink
- 14:48it, she doesn't fucking eat. Then take her on, you know, to
- 14:51get her salad and then you take a walk.
- 14:53But that Kind of sucks when people try to put the fucking
- 14:57walk in, this is just an aside, you know, you get a little extra
- 15:01practical advice whenever she's wearing shoes that she could
- 15:05walk in, unless she is like obsessed with physical fitness.
- 15:08Then it's not romantic, you know, you got your sneakers on.
- 15:12There's only so much romantic. It can go except for young
- 15:14people, that were sneakers everywhere.
- 15:16Even with their, you know, party dresses.
- 15:18You people are not these people, so have her dress nicely if
- 15:23she's wearing her and This doesn't mean that you can't
- 15:25exercise together, and that's not fun because it is.
- 15:26I even have a podcast about that, why you should exercise
- 15:29with your spouse? But let's try like right
- 15:32exercise is one bucket. Romantic date is another bucket.
- 15:36So if you're taking a jog to dinner, how could you going to
- 15:39look at dinner? Not very good.
- 15:40You know, how good you're gonna smell it.
- 15:42Dinner, not very good. So, you know, go for a run and
- 15:46then come back shower, get dressed and go to dinner like,
- 15:49you know, like adults, like people on a date a video camera
- 15:53following you around. With no audio track should know
- 15:55that you're on a date. You know, should be like oh that
- 15:58couples on a date which you would know if everybody was in
- 16:01sweatpants because you all wanted to like fucking
- 16:03multitask, your walk and your date but calm down.
- 16:07We don't have to be that efficient.
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