Latest / Discomfort Required / What It Takes To Be A CrossFit Games Athlete | Hattie Kanyo
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- Trent: I was at NorCal two years ago when you won and I competed and that shit was hard enough. Hattie 🤘: NorCal is fun. It's a cool comp. Like people complain about it being backyard again, but then just don't go. Cause I mean, it's like it's not our competition. It's someone else's, and the way that they want to do it is their way of doing it. So you can't really complain you signed up to go to this competition and mean, I feel like it's a really fun and yeah, it does feel like old school CrossFit. That's why I started CrossFit, you know? So I I love that event for sure. But Trent: Yeah. Hattie 🤘: And it's a party. Like they have such a cool Trent: Hell yeah. Hattie 🤘: atmosphere and cool community too, right? Trent: Yeah, definitely. And I went down this year just to coach and and that was another type of fun. it was really cool to compete one one year and then coach the Hattie 🤘: I bet. Trent: next year. I was like, Yeah, it was way funner coaching. I'll tell you that right now. Hattie 🤘: Yeah, I know the the throwing up feeling, the butterflies, all of it. It's this Trent: Yeah, right. Hattie 🤘: half the time I think to myself, why am I doing this? Why do I do this to feel like this? Trent: Ha ha ha. Hattie 🤘: But then when you get on the competition floor, it's like, okay, that's why I'm doing it. Because it feels I mean, I Trent: Yeah, for sure. Hattie 🤘: love competing and I love working out. So yeah. Trent: is great. All right. Let's get into it. Hattie Canyo, thank you so much for being here. I really appreciate you coming on. It's gonna be a really fun conversation today. so first thing we ask everybody when they come on, what does discomfort required mean to you? Hattie 🤘: Discomfort what, sorry? Trent: Discomfort required. Hattie 🤘: Discomfort required. Ooh. I feel like it means that we should have discomfort to grow and to I mean especially lately I have been thinking about you know I need to do more hard things put myself out there and stop being in my comfort zone so I feel like that discomfort that is what makes us grow that is what makes us stronger. you know I've had a lot of injuries lately and it is a mind Am allowed to swear on here? A mind mess. A mind fuck. Trent: yeah, fuck ya. Go for it. Hattie 🤘: It's a mind fuck for sure. And I keep on coming back to hey, you just need to remind yourself how grateful you are, and that this discomfort right now is only going to make you stronger in the long run. So whether that's, you know, discomfort can be anything. Discomfort can be a hard workout, but it can also be the stupid. s non sexy exercises that I have to do for my injury over here. You know what I mean? That's discomfort Trent: Mm. Hattie 🤘: because I'm like, this is boring. I don't wanna do this. You know what I mean? That's just a different kind of discomfort. So I mean, yeah, I don't know if I answered your question, but that's what it feels like to me. Trent: No, I nailed it. Yeah. Absolutely nailed it. Yeah. Cause I mean, some days it's difficult to just put on shoes and go out the door, right? So it's like Hattie 🤘: Yeah. Trent: getting past that milest or getting past that hump, like it's the way it goes. no, that was an awesome answer. And most everybody has a version of that. And it's true, like we can't grow without discomfort. so what do you think is keeping you in your comfort zone? Just the injuries or what else? Hattie 🤘: yeah, I don't know. I think change is keeping me in my comfort zone right now because I have so many things going on right now and I know that I need to make a big change to be able to make more money, to you know, get back to the CrossFit games. Like there's just a lot of work there's a lot of things. Like I told you at the beginning, I don't know if we're recording already, but I've got a lot going on. So I just Right now I'm trying to figure out how I can narrow it all down to like one or two things that I'm working on rather than a million. And yes, it's great being I love being busy, but not in this way where I am working on too many things and not one thing. So I feel like, yeah, I just it's hard. Change is hard because I don't know If I go down this path, what if I fail? If I go down this path, what if I fail? If I go down this path, and I I'm also like, which path is the right path? You know what I mean? So Trent: Mm-hmm. Hattie 🤘: I'm trying to journal a bit. I'm trying to kind of just let it settle in and but not I don't know. I I know that there needs to be change. So at least that awareness is there, if that makes sense. You know what mean? Part part of me is like, Trent: absolutely. Yeah, for sure. Hattie 🤘: you're not doing the thing and you're not put you're not taking the steps, but also I don't even know what those steps are yet. I have to I have to work on some stuff in the background first before I take the steps because I don't even know what the steps are yet. You know what I mean? So yeah. Trent: Yeah, for sure. And that that's all hard in itself too, because most people don't even take the time to address the fact they need change. They're just like, you know Hattie 🤘: For sure. Trent: what? I'm just gonna get up and I'm gonna go to work and I'm gonna do this and just be perfectly happy being mediocre at whatever they're doing, right? Hattie 🤘: Yeah. Trent: but it's always tough when you're so busy that you feel like unproductive, right? Because you're getting pulled in so many different directions. And those days Hattie 🤘: that's it right now. Trent: I I think those days are like the hardest, right? 'Cause it's like I'm doing so much. But getting nowhere and just spinning wheels, Hattie 🤘: Yeah. Trent: I I I get to be the same way, right? I mean, I so I do online coaching as well. So I know what it's like having online clients and then coaching in person and then trying to do other stuff and this, that, and the other thing. And my wife the other day was like, You have like four businesses, can you just chill? And I'm like, I probably should, you know, because like it's like getting pulled in too many different directions. Hattie 🤘: Well, we're hustlers. We like to hustle and but at the same time I'm realizing maybe I need to hustle in the one in one thing and really make that one thing awesome, you know what I mean? Rather than kind of mediocre at all of them, you know? Trent: Yeah, definitely. I just did a coaching mentorship with Elle back in January or February. Yeah, it was Hattie 🤘: nice. Yeah. Trent: one of the best things I've ever done. And he was like, Hey, calm down, focus on one thing, get your ADHD under control, homie. and it helps Hattie 🤘: Yeah. Trent: it helped the business so much. just the online coaching business, exponentially. so what are you grinding so hard on right now? On like the one thing that you think that you should chase down? Hattie 🤘: I mean, obviously the games is the thing that I really need to just buckle down and focus on that. I just don't have a lot of motivation because of all these other things taking over. I think I'm getting burnt out a little burnt out a little bit, but it's kind of hard because it's like, well, I still need to pay my bills, so I need to work, and that's why I'm holding on to all these things. But I'm also realizing, okay, do I just make the sacrifice and I have a bit of savings. I have a bit of leeway where I could play around with that and just take the plunge. But it's hard when you're things are so expensive these days, you know what I mean? And we're trying to pay bills and we're trying to, you know, and you don't get very many sponsors these days unless you're frickin' at the top. And that's a whole nother thing in itself. Like, I don't know. It's just so I'm kind of you know, I I do want to put my all in for the games, especially because I only have a few more years probably of competing individual. but it's just it's it's tough to make that sacrifice and that plunge when I need to pay my bills over here. Yeah. Trent: For sure. No, that's terrifying too, right? Especially when you you you're not a hundred percent sure that it's gonna be the thing that's gonna, you know, write that paycheck at the end of the day. Hattie 🤘: For sure. Trent: so when did you when did you decide or like when did that switch flip where you're like, I'm actually really fucking good at this and this is the thing that I wanna chase? Hattie 🤘: so I started CrossFit in 2017 and I drank the Kool-Aid. I fell in love right away. I started doing two a days right away. And my biggest thing was confidence. I did not I mean, I watched all the documentaries and everything and was like, that would be really cool to be able to go there, but I'm not good enough. So I'm just gonna focus on these smaller comps or local comps or whatever. And I still, whatever. I wasn't really didn't even know what I was training for. I just trained so hard. It was I I was actually just thinking about this today at the gym. I almost traded I kind of just traded one addiction for the other, but I would honestly weigh rather the CrossFit addiction than like all the drugs and alcohol and everything that I was doing back then, obviously. Right. So I just kinda went full in and I was training lots and was like, I'll compete at different competitions. but it was after It was during COVID where I let myself go. gained a bunch of weight. I was drinking. I feel like a lot of people were just drinking and eating like shit and whatever. And I remember taking a video of my boyfriend and I doing a workout in this attic. We were staying at my uncle's cabin in the mountains and I was taking a video of it. And watching that video, I just thought, what? I am fat now. Like I just gained all this weight. Trent: Yeah. Hattie 🤘: What just happened? And I was like, I need to do something about this. So Started working out a little bit more. Then we went, we went and lived in Bali. And that's where I just put my head down and I was like, you know what? I'm pretty good at this. And I am just gonna make a run for the games. I have nothing to lose. COVID happened. I lost my job at the gym. I was trying to do the online life. So I was like, you know what? We're in paradise. I'm just gonna work hard. And we lived there for 10 months. So I was like, I'm working hard. I'm putting my head down and we're gonna get back into the shape that we were at when we started CrossFit. And sure enough, I did. And I was making I think I made Can West Games maybe or something. as it when it was a semifinals but then it got cancelled, whatever. I I made individual semifinals and that's kind of where it was like, Okay, we can do this. And I I did pretty good at my first individual semifinals. So I kind of just thought, Okay, we're just gonna keep on doing this and see how many years it takes and try to get to the games. Trent: I love it. That's awesome. Was was your first one the West Coast classic? Hattie 🤘: It was Atlas Games in Montreal. Yeah. Trent: Atlas Games. Gotcha. Right on. how did you like how the that that comp was ran and everything? Hattie 🤘: Yeah, it was actually really good. I loved the workouts. They were hard. it was a good competition. We we had gone there a few years before, actually pretty much the day before the pandemic happened. We were there as a team to go to semifinals and they were they were like they brought us into the the building and said, Nope, we're not doing it. There's a pandemic now. And so we all just partied in Montreal. But yeah. I really liked the venue and I liked the competition. It's sad that they're I mean, I don't think that they're a thing anymore, but Yeah. Trent: Yeah. Yeah, it it's a bummer. I've heard nothing but good things about and they just kinda disappeared, right? Which is a bummer. I think me and me and my wife competed on a team at the last Canton West Games and it was Hattie 🤘: Okay. Trent: fun and then it was just over. And I was like, Well, okay, that sucks. you know. Hattie 🤘: Yeah, they still owe me ten thousand dollars. Trent: Yeah, I'd I'd go knock on somebody's door, that's for damn sure. That's ridiculous. Hattie 🤘: I I did everything that I could, honestly, but it was just not happening. He Yeah. I even said, hey, send Trent: Such a bummer. So what Hattie 🤘: me a C2 bike and that will be good for me. I don't care. Send me one. And then he just ghosted me after that. Because we got on a call and everything with the owner of Can West. And I just, you know, laid it into him a little bit and Then I s email back and forth and I just said, Send me a C two. That's all I don't even care. Just send me something and nothing. So Trent: What a dick. That's just bad Hattie 🤘: Yeah. Trent: for business. And that's why he's not in business anymore. Hattie 🤘: Yeah, exactly. Trent: Exactly. that's what he gets for being a dick though. Hattie 🤘: But that was a really fun event. my first time at Canwest, I loved that event and the the venue and everything. It was so fun. I just wish it could still be a thing. And I wish that I Trent: yeah. Hattie 🤘: mean that year was fun too, because it was Matt Frazier doing the programming and it was really good programming. I I loved it. but it was like a fire festival situation. Trent: I love the workouts. Yeah, I like I don't think I've rode Yeah, right. I don't think I've ever rode as hard as I did in one of the workouts there. Like my biceps like felt like they were going to explode and I legit like I've never had cramps like that from rowing in my entire life. Hattie 🤘: What was that rowing and double unders and something else Trent: And Chestabar. Hattie 🤘: I feel like? there were I yeah, yeah. Wasn't it like thirty testabar Trent: Yeah. Excellent workout. Hattie 🤘: or something? Yeah. Trent: So for the for the teams, it was fifteen synchro chestabar, some double unders, fifteen synchro chestabar, and the other teammate did double unders and it was back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. And then it was just max calories in whatever time you had remaining. And I remember we Hattie 🤘: yeah. Trent: we got done with the double unders and I jumped on the rower and I looked all because like I think we were in like lane two, and I looked all the way down and there was nobody on the rower, and I'm like, well, here we go. And I was just started ripping Hattie 🤘: Like, we gotta go. Trent: on it. Yeah. I'm gonna break this machine. And I swear after I was done, I was like, okay, I'm good. I picked up all my shit, walked off of past the rowers, got onto the grass. And I was like, my God, my arms. And then I like sat down and I'm like, fuck, my arms. And I like, I could not straighten them. They were stuck like this. It was just, it was terrible. Yeah. Dump. Exactly. Hattie 🤘: The adrenaline was just like bye, you're fucked up now. Trent: what do you think the biggest misconception people have about what it takes to get to the games? Hattie 🤘: I don't know. I mean, I feel I hear all the time, you know, people want to get to the games and they say to, you know, I have coach friends and they're like, Yeah, this person said that they want to get to the games, but they only do class a couple times a week and maybe can do a couple extra hours throughout the week. It's like you need to work a lot more than that. I'm sorry, but especially just starting, I feel like you need a lot more volume than you think because you have so many things to work on. And then later on, I do I do I don't think you need as much volume. You know, now that I have pretty much everything, yeah, I still have to work on stuff, but I feel like as you get older, you don't need as much volume and you can stay pretty fit. People think you need volume, volume, volume, volume. I do think you do at the start for sure. Just 'cause there's so many things to work on. yeah. Trent: Yeah, and it's not twenty ten anymore, right? Everybody's so fit now that it's Hattie 🤘: Yeah. Trent: like it it's it it just is what it is. You can't just go to class and be like, hey, I'm gonna go to the games. but you're the second person that I've talked to. when I was talking to Elle about this when he was, you know, talking about I think it was like he was talking about Jason or somebody, and he's like, You get to a point where it's like you don't need to just go pound it for like eight hours, right? You can go get what you need to get done in four hours. You know, as long as you're consistent with it, you're gonna be doing just fine, right? 'Cause like You're already at the top level. Now just Hattie 🤘: An intentional. Yeah. Trent: maintain it, when you have a brutal training day and everything feels like shit and you just want to quit, what keeps you from mentally checking out? Hattie 🤘: I was just thinking about this today because I didn't want to do my second piece. And I mean, that's been the story of my life for the past few weeks, maybe even months, where I just get to the gym and I just don't even want to work out. I don't know where that motivation has gone. Again, I think it's just because I have so many things going on right now, but I don't know. I I I again I was thinking about it today and I was like, I think it's just my new addiction. It's just the the other addiction that I have and obviously determination, I want to get back to the games and you know, I have it written up here, get back to the CrossFit games because I missed this year, right? So it's like I have that determination, but I do think it's like my kind of my addiction a little bit. So I just put my head down and I do it. And half the time it's hey, if you just have to move, then just move, you know. Just see what you have. And sometimes those are my best sessions. the workout today, it ended up going really well, but I did not want to do it and I was not feeling it. But as soon as I got going, you get that little bit of adrenaline, and then all of a sudden, Bob's your uncle and you're good. You had your the workout's done, and you're like, wow, got it done. Trent: so on days where it feels extra shitty, just like I'm in here and I'm kinda just checking a box. Does it make it even more difficult because you have all that pressure of the things that you have goals for and everything like that? Hattie 🤘: Yeah, sometimes it does for sure. Because s days that I especially with injuries, days that I am like, that's flaring up and I can't do the thing and then we just scrap the piece, you feel like you almost feel like a piece of shit because you're not doing one of your pieces. You know what I mean? So it can really get to your head, thinking, am I doing enough? But Again, if we circle back to the intentional training, as long as you are intentional, you know, and I mean I've been coaching long enough too that if something like that happens, I could go do some zone two work or I can go do, you know, I kind of know where where I need to stop or where I need to if I need to like change something. but yeah, it is it is tough because you're you have this goal that you're pushing for and you're literally even I have a competition next weekend. And in my head, I keep thinking, holy, am I even fit enough to be going to this or whatever? But I'm also pulling myself back and, you know, giving myself grace because of the injuries. And it's like, hey, no, let's just go have no expectation. Just have fun. I've always wanted to do this competition. So let's just go have fun and see where we're at coming back from having injuries. So I'm just trying not to have expectation and just chill out with the brain because the brain can be so mean. Why are you being so mean to me? Trent: You're not wrong. you're stuck with me for the rest of your life. Quit being so mean. I just had this talk with one of my athletes. she went to a comp. She did one of the comps in in New Jersey, and she absolutely crushed it. one of the workouts wasn't completely Up her alley and she knew that she was gonna do not as great, but she beat herself up over it. And I'm like, hey, it's only one workout. You just took three firsts. You're gonna be fine. Hattie 🤘: Yeah. Trent: Don't even worry about it. Then she gets second in the whole competition, which is a fucking monumental feat. you know what where we have to put some work in. Just be stoked, right? I think that's one thing that it just gets really tough, especially when. Competition is your job and competition is like what you do and you spend so much time on it. say you eat shit in a workout and in in a comp? How do you bounce back from that? Hattie 🤘: Ooh, that's a tough one. I think having people in your corner to help you is a big one. because I am very hard on myself. And I know in the past I've had bad first events and it's been really hard to crawl myself out mentally. but again, when I have my people there, you know, reassuring me, hey, this is yeah, just like you did with your your with your client. It's like, hey, that's one workout. That does not mean that you're out. You know what I mean? And it's so crazy where we go because it's one workout and we're instantly like, I'm fucked. Like this whole weekend is not going well. You know what I mean? so I don't know. It it is hard to crawl yourself out of it, but if you have a good support system, that's a that's a big piece of it. I know text my my mindset coach a lot of the times and he'll pretty much give me a slap across the face over text Trent: Yeah, it I it helps a bunch, like having people in your corner you're you're a coach, Hattie 🤘: yeah Trent: you have people that compete, and I'm sure there's you couldn't even count how many times you're like, get off the ledge, you're gonna be fine, suck it up, it's just Hattie 🤘: Yeah. Trent: one workout or or whatever. when you have an injury and you're rehabbing an injury, how do you deal with having to work around it so much without getting super frustrated at the time it takes to rehab it? Hattie 🤘: I mean, taking it day by day. That's a big one, is just one day at a time, man, because you know, one day will be really great and then another day it'll flare up and you'll be feeling like you're back to square one, but that's not necessarily true. It just might mean that you used it a little bit more than you should have, and then you have the tools to, you know, make it feel good again. And that's another thing with rehab. It's It's crazy because you can try so many exercises and them not work. And then I asked just recently for my back, I asked someone at the gym who has been going through some back stuff. She gave me, I think, three or four exercises that she does. I tried it and the next day my back felt a hundred percent. So sometimes you know, Trent: that's awesome. Hattie 🤘: you'll go and get these expert rehab advice and it might feel like it's taking forever. And You get one freaking exercise from a friend, and you're like, Wow, this is better than I've been doing for two months. You know what I mean? So I don't know. I I think the day by day, you just have to take it day by day. And just my community has been so amazing, and they've been, there for me emotionally. I yeah, I just I can't even thank them enough because. They'll know if I'm having a bad day. I wear my heart on my sleeve and when I'm coaching, they're like, Why aren't you dancing today? What is wrong with you? And I'm like, I'm just having one of those days and they're like, we know. Trent: It it happens and it like that's really awesome that you have so many people that give enough of a shit to like, Hey, I'm paying attention and I know that you're not having a great day, Hattie 🤘: For sure. Trent: so what would Hattie 🤘: Yeah. Trent: you say your superpower is when it comes to CrossFit? Hattie 🤘: Ooh. what is my superpower? Trent: so like can you grind harder than anybody or is it something like you'll go to a a darker place than the person next to you or what do you what do you think is like what sets Hattie apart from the rest of the field? Hattie 🤘: I mean, yeah, I can go pretty dark. I I turn the lights off, for sure. Trent: Ha ha ha. Hattie 🤘: I can grind. It is a place yeah. Trent: That is a hard place to get to. I like it I take my hat off to you because shit hurts. Hattie 🤘: For sure. But yeah, I like the pain cave to be honest. And just giving a little yell here and there. I used to, my thing used to be Trent: There you go. Hattie 🤘: falling on the ground. And just rolling back and forth. But ever since I saw Colton Merton say he never lays down, I was like, okay, maybe we should not lay down every time. we can sometimes. Yeah, rip sure. Trent: And be dramatic. Me however Yeah, dying complaining the entire time. You know. who's somebody that you look up to that like really inspires you in the space? Hattie 🤘: I really look up to Emma Lawson's a big one. just like the stuff that she's had to go through being so young and it's really cool to see her actually work on her mindset and come back. I mean, it seems like she's so much stronger and so much happier. and that's just not a lot of what the some of the younger people had to take years off, you know what I mean? And some people are still taking it off. So it's really cool how s strong she is in that sense. who else? It's a tough one. there's lots of people that I look up to, but she comes to mind right away and she's so much younger than me, but it's really cool. I mean, we had a really cool moment my first year at the games, and ever since then I was like, Okay, you're an awesome person. So I mean she's Canadian too, so Yeah, for sure. Trent: For sure. So you guys have that blond anyway. I love hearing that. She's she's a rock star and Hattie 🤘: Yeah. Trent: these kids, like I'm forty four, right? I'm no spring chicken. And it's seeing these kids grind as hard as they're grinding, I'm surprised more of them don't quit, honestly. yeah, it's fun and it's a sport, but that this is a lot of psychological shit. this is a lot of to do with, your growth as a human and your brain coming together it normally should, right? So Hattie 🤘: Yeah. Trent: I understand them take th good on them for taking a break and not just grinding through it and being like, I I'll rub some dirt in it and be okay. Hattie 🤘: For sure. Yeah. Make sure your mental health is good 'cause this is a mental sport for sure. Trent: it's so mental, it's not even funny. That's why I'm like, I don't even feel like competing anymore. I just wanna go work out and have fun. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Hattie 🤘: Right? all the feelings you have at a competition. It's like, why am I doing this? But it's still fun to exercise grace. Trent: It was it was super funny. Yeah. It was super funny. We went to Desert City Classic and that was the last comp that I did last year. And I got through the first workout, which was a swim and bike and ski erg, and it was awful. And I was like, told my wife, I'm like, I don't want to compete solo anymore. this is this is not Hattie 🤘: Ha ha ha. Trent: fun for me. And that was workout one. Like I only want to do teams and I don't even know how much I want to do that. Yeah. Hattie 🤘: Yeah, you're like, now I have the whole weekend. Yeah. Team is really fun too. I mean, I wouldn't mind doing a little team after this, maybe. Trent: what does training look like now prepping for the games? Hattie 🤘: Okay, so training for the games. it's a lot of rehab Trent: Yeah, what is it? Hattie 🤘: stuff. right now we're just getting ready for a competition next week. And then I think that will be kind of our tester of where I'm at and how we can start ramping things up. I've been just doing a lot of, you know, accessories and trying to build back some strength the best that we can, but I wasn't able to. pull off the floor for a long time, not even really squats for a long time. so I think right now it's just incrementally adding things to see where I'm at, to be honest. Trent: So a normal game's schedule, what would you be normally doing right now? Would it just like accumulation Hattie 🤘: one other genes. Trent: at this point, or would it be like a lot of metcons or just a lot of strength building, or wha which way would it kinda land? Hattie 🤘: it kinda it's hard to say because I just I have a new coach and we this is the first time that we're prepping for the games, I guess. but yeah, I think I mean with my last coach, I feel like around this time, yeah, it was a lot of accumulation, for sure some strength. because that's something that I do need to build on, like certain strength pieces. a lot of capacity, in the morning say and then Metcon in the night. So not really double Metcon days, but more of just building that aerobic capacity, capacity and skills and strength, I would say. if you could go back and Trent: if you could go back and tell the younger version of you that started CrossFit, what would be the one thing that you would say focus the most on if you're gonna be going for the games? Hattie 🤘: Mindset. I mean I seriously getting a mindset coach or something early on. Because for me it was it was a confidence thing for a long time. I mean, even after making Trent: So what changed? Hattie 🤘: the games, my my co my s mindset coach was still like, bro, you've been elite And semifinals for how many years? Like now it's not a confidence thing. You've already proven to yourself how many times. So why are you still questioning yourself? You know what I mean? You still question, should I be here? That's so crazy. Yes, you should be here because you literally made it there. How many times? You know what I mean? So I mean, what changed was my mindset, coach. So that's why having it earlier would have been nice. To just build that confidence because I can work hard. Give me a whole training session and I'm there. I'm working. I'm doing all the things. You know what I mean? I'm the type of person that needs to check off all the things. If I don't check off one of the things for that day, it's like, no, I'm failed. Trent: So when did I'm the worst. Yeah, like I get it. I have a whiteboard that's right above my mixer and it's like all the things that I need to do for the day and it's like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Like people have it in a spreadsheet. I have to like Hattie 🤘: Yeah. Trent: I have to take a pen and I have to make an X because it's the only way I feel like I get shit done. Hattie 🤘: yeah, look at this. I'm old school too. I love doing the check marks. And the the Trent: Hell yeah. Love it. I love it. So It's so good. I love that. when did you get your mindset coach? Hattie 🤘: when I was living in Bali. So I believe it was right before I think it was yeah. I think it was about four months before I made it to the games. I believe. Or there was a competition. It was four months before a competition. I think it was semi-finals, but it might have been a different competition. but it was still that year, that same year that I made it. So 2024 was my first year making it to the games. And I was living in Bali Trent: Awesome. Hattie 🤘: and I was trying out all these different modalities for like, you know, he like self-healing or whatever. and then I ended up asking Emily Rolf who her mindset coach was, and she told me, and so I started talking to him, and right away I just I was like, yep, I want to work with you. So we started working together. And yeah, it changed a lot of things for sure. Trent: That's great. What was the what was the first thing you guys started working on? Hattie 🤘: just being present with my thoughts. So he just had me catching thoughts and it didn't matter what thought, like even the most surface level thoughts, you know, whatever. I'm walking down the street and I think of a random thing. I'm like, I caught my thought, I'm gonna write it down. next thing, caught it down. Even simplest things of I'm thirsty, I caught it down. Like you're catching what you're thinking and writing it down, you know, and then Eventually it gets deeper. It gets deeper. And you're able to actually catch, deeper, deeper, deeper thoughts. And eventually the thoughts that I was catching was insane. The stuff that I was telling myself, I just I couldn't even believe it. I was so I was being so mean to myself. It was like I'm telling myself these things. No wonder I got some issues, man. Trent: That's tough. Hattie 🤘: That's Trent: that's like one of the things that I think most people should work on. It is either get a mindset coach or if they haven't gone to therapy, go to therapy just to like dig into some things like that. Cause it's super, super helpful and it just helps you grow and move forward. How much do you think Hattie 🤘: For sure. Trent: that helped with that rookie season at the games? Hattie 🤘: so much. That was the best feeling I've ever felt in my life. Not just because I made it, but you know, I was I almost won that whole competition and I felt so I just felt so relaxed. And I just want to recreate that so much. I'm just like, what are all the pieces that just came together that weekend? It was just so amazing and everything felt so good. I mean, it helps to have a really good first event, obviously, but then It just snowballed from there and things just felt so good. we stayed in Compton, we survived Compton. there was just so many crazy Trent: Yeah. Hattie 🤘: things about that weekend, but it all came together in such a perfect puzzle. And yeah, I think it was a lot having to do with my mindset of just, you know, being so relaxed and being so I mean, I felt pretty confident going into it for sure. Trent: Do you think you ha that was the some of the most fun you've had when it comes to competing? Hattie 🤘: For sure. Yeah. I mean, it feels good to be doing good for sure. But again, all the little things. I just I felt really good and just chill and relaxed, even though we were staying in Compton. And people were like, What? Why are you staying there? It's like because I accidentally booked it on Airbnb and I didn't realize we were actually in Compton, but it was the funniest story and it and Whatever, we had a really good time and it was a part of the experience. And I had my tunnel of love and I had my all these people there for me, you know what I mean? And it was just one thing after the next. And even as simple as the first day that we went there, it was the athlete briefing or whatever. And some of ev everyone could join because it was outside. So my friends were with me. We You know how out on the floor they have the gumdrops and it has people's names on it. So they were getting ready to show us all the events. And there was only one gumdrop out there and it had a name on it, and it was my name. And I my Trent: Amazing. Hattie 🤘: and I just look at each other and we're like, This is the year. This is the year. And it just it started off with that, just tiny little things, but it was just, yeah, such an amazing weekend. Trent: I love that for you. That's such a such an awesome memory And like f chasing Hattie 🤘: Yeah, it was cool. Trent: that feeling has to be really, really dope. when did you decide that you only have a couple more years as a solo athlete athlete left before you start going to teams or whatever? Hattie 🤘: this year I've been thinking about it a lot. I just with the injuries and stuff, it is really hard. I'm hoping I can push for a few more years for sure, but we'll see, we'll see what the next you know, we'll see this year obviously and and then maybe a couple more after that. But I'm also a master this year, so I mean if I don't make individual I can always try for masters. So there's always that. Trent: Hell yeah. I love that. So if you're gonna give advice, yeah, if you get if you were gonna give advice Hattie 🤘: Yeah, yeah. Trent: to somebody that is a rookie and they're coming in as a young buck and they're gonna qualify for even semis, what is some advice you'd give to them? Hattie 🤘: it's sounds cliche. It sounds like this is what everyone says, but you do need to enjoy it because it is it goes by so fast. And yeah, I think enjoy it and learn from it and grow from it. it's really hard because my rookie year was the year Lazar died, and I'm just such an empathetic person that I couldn't really shut that off. I mean, I never even met the guy, but I was just I was pretty fucked up too, where I was like, holy this, I just it was a lot of emotion. So it was kind of hard to enjoy the moment when there were so many things going on. And I do wish that I tried to a little bit more, but I mean, it was just tough. So it is, it is hard. But I do hear that of a lot of people, even veterans, you know, From a long time, they're like, My first year, I wish that I soaked it in a little bit more, Trent: me and my wife went to the games that year and that was very, very heavy. That is for sure. and it's like a no win situation, you know? so what is one thing that you're chasing that is absolutely scaring the shit out of you right this second? Hattie 🤘: Getting to the games again. Yeah. Trent: so next year, are you thinking about doing anything like side quest wise? Like are you gonna try for WFP? Are you gonna do anything like that? Hattie 🤘: I have thought about WFP. again, I'm just kind of taking it competition by competition and just seeing how my body holds up. So if by next year I'm feeling pretty good, then I was thinking about WFP. It's I mean, if I can make some money that way, then I mean it it's the cold hard truth. And yes, it seems everyone says that it's a great competition, but for me it would just I I need a paycheck at this point. Trent: Yeah, Hattie 🤘: Yeah. Trent: for sure. No, and and I get that and that and that's completely respectable, for sure. ha it if they built a thing so athletes could get paid to do the thing that they do, why not go to it? I I would do that in a heartbeat. I'm just not fit enough, so it doesn't really matter. Hattie 🤘: For sure. Yeah. Trent: Hattie, where can everybody find you or get a hold of you if they need to? Hattie 🤘: Instagram is Hattie at Hattie Canyo. And yeah. Trent: Awesome. and if they if so say if somebody wanted to get some coaching from you, where would they find you? Hattie 🤘: yeah, you could just co message me on Instagram. I also work for Ascend Athlete, so you could apply on Ascend, I think it's ascendathlete.com. Just look it up on Google Ascend Ascend Athlete. I'm like, I don't know. Ascend Trent: Nice. The yeah. Hattie 🤘: athlete training, I think. Just look it up on the Google machine for sure. We'll tell you. But Instagram's probably the best. Trent: Yeah, the Google machine has the answers. Exactly. Awesome. Hattie, thank you so much for being on. I really, really appreciate it. you taking the time and just Hattie 🤘: Thank you for having me. Trent: of course for sure. anything that we missed that you want to add? Hattie 🤘: No, I think I've talked enough already. Every question I just it Trent: Ha ha ha. Hattie 🤘: goes on forever, but I like to talk. Trent: And I I love it. I wish you nothing but the best. I hope these injuries take care of themselves super fast and I will be rooting for you and I hope you kick ass this season. Hattie 🤘: Thank you so much.