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The Soundtrack of Our Teen Years Featuring Mya · Shawna and LaLa: Life Beyond The Mic

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  Speaker 2: And check me out at Bella Underscore La La one
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  Speaker 1: It has been a crazy, wild week with this weather.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the mother nature is always bipolar. We always say it.
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  Speaker 2: From sunny to chili to We had tornado warnings yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Did you speel the ring or hear the rain? Last night?
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  Speaker 2: It was crazy?
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  Speaker 1: I did. I. I've been sick, so I was laying
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  Speaker 1: on the couch. I ran too the bathroom. I came
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  Speaker 1: back and it literally two minutes later, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: what is going on? It was like a monthsoon out there.
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  Speaker 2: We needed it, though, we were definitely. I always laugh
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  Speaker 2: at myself because when it especially, we've had this dry spell.
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  Speaker 2: My grass is dead, my trees are dead. When it rained,
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  Speaker 2: I sit on my front porch and I do like
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  Speaker 2: the old lady. We needed this, We needed this. I'm
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  Speaker 2: saying to my husband, do you have a rocking chair?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: I have my rock and chair. I sit out there.
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  Speaker 2: The dogs lay on my feet the cat lays on
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  Speaker 2: my lap and I just feel like a little old
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  Speaker 2: lady and my piece. I love front porches. They're the best,
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  Speaker 2: you know, They're just that I love.
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  Speaker 1: You just need pajamas, slippers, a cup of tea. I
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  Speaker 1: was just gonna say a cup of tea.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And you know, it's funny talking about that in
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  Speaker 2: the front porch thing. I realize that no one, no
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  Speaker 2: one sits on their front porches anymore. That was like
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  Speaker 2: a huge thing when I was a kid. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if it was for you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we always had the enclosed porch. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but whenever it would rain or especially thunderstorms, my grandma
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  Speaker 1: would take me out on the front porch until it lightened. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: is it lightened or lightning?
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  Speaker 2: Lightning to light the lightning started.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe, yes, until it started lightning, and then she would
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  Speaker 1: make me go inside. But it was like the best.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I grew up. That's when we would come visit.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you didn't have a porch, you didn't
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  Speaker 2: have a porch. But when we would come up here
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  Speaker 2: to visit my grandma and parents in the country, everything
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  Speaker 2: was on the front porch. You'd have your coffee you'd
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  Speaker 2: sit there in the rocking chairs, talking or staring at nothing,
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  Speaker 2: you know, And as a kid, it was just it
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  Speaker 2: was relaxing. And then my parents did it with us.
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  Speaker 2: And then when I met my husband, he never had it,
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  Speaker 2: or he had a French front porch, but they never
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  Speaker 2: sat on it. And when I would I was living
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  Speaker 2: with him for a little bit at his parents house.
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  Speaker 2: I was always on the front porch and they're like,
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  Speaker 2: what are you What are you looking at out here?
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  Speaker 2: Aren't your bored? I'm like, no, it's peaceful. So me
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  Speaker 2: and my hus now he loves it. We sit on
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  Speaker 2: our front porch together all the time and uh, just
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  Speaker 2: watch the rain, watch the sun, watch the deer.
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  Speaker 1: He's calming, yeah, you know, And we do that now.
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  Speaker 1: On the back porch. We have dinner and we watched
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  Speaker 1: the deer and the fish and whatever other animals come
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  Speaker 1: into our yard that my mom is always feeding.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, even like on Sunday mornings or
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  Speaker 1: Saturday mornings, you know, I'll just sit outside.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's what's wrong with the world. I think
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  Speaker 2: we all stopped sitting on our front porches and our
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  Speaker 2: back porches, just not for a barbecue, not to be
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  Speaker 2: with friends, but just to be in that moment in
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  Speaker 2: nature and outside in the fresh air and not talking
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  Speaker 2: to anyone, but just rocking away to the breeze, to
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  Speaker 2: the sun, to whatever. And I think we need more
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  Speaker 2: of that, you know. I think our grandparents and our
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  Speaker 2: elders that they had it right, like that's what we
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  Speaker 2: should be doing and speaking of nature. So, Jelina got
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  Speaker 2: accepted to that school that I applied at and the.
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  Speaker 1: One that asked you a million questions.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they had this long application and it's a really
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  Speaker 2: cool school. I wish they had it when I was
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  Speaker 2: a kid. It's more of nature based. It's a homeschool
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  Speaker 2: co op thing, but it's all outside in the nature,
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  Speaker 2: in the woods, in the creek. And I love that
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  Speaker 2: because as a kid, that's all I did. I pretended
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  Speaker 2: I was a Native American in the woods and I
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  Speaker 2: was the creeks and making mud pottery. And I've tried
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  Speaker 2: to put that into my kids, and my son was
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  Speaker 2: big with it. My daughter loved going into the woods
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  Speaker 2: until the bear attack. Now she's afraid. But anyway, so
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited about the school they accepted her. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god, yes, she's gonna be out in the
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  Speaker 2: woods every day. So I start showing her, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I tell her and she's like, oh, yeah, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to school because she's four going on five. And I
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  Speaker 2: show her videos of what she's going to be doing,
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  Speaker 2: and they incorporate a lot of outdoor play in the woods.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm showing her and the kids are all in
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  Speaker 2: the creek. You have to put them in bathing suits
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  Speaker 2: or rain boots, and they go in the creek and
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  Speaker 2: she's like, there's bugs in there. I was like, all right, Lena,
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  Speaker 2: let's think positive here. It's gonna be fine. Look at
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  Speaker 2: all the kids are having fun. I'm like, oh, look
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  Speaker 2: they have mud Kitchen day where they have this fake
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  Speaker 2: kitchen outside and the kids play with mud. Yeah, exactly, No,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to get dirty. I'm like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: what did I raise raise a Look it's fun. All
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  Speaker 2: the kids are dirty. You get you can wear a smock. No,
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  Speaker 2: my hands will get dirty. Look at their hands, mommy
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  Speaker 2: and everything I showed her. Now I'm having a panic
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  Speaker 2: attack because I'm like, I just paid money for this.
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  Speaker 2: What if she they're gonna think my daughter is this
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  Speaker 2: like you know, like stuck up little girl. It's just
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  Speaker 2: that she doesn't like to get dirty. I didn't create
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  Speaker 2: her that way because I was a kid who was
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  Speaker 2: rolling in the mud.
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  Speaker 1: But your husband, my.
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  Speaker 2: Husband, yes, it's probably from him. He's OCD. His parents
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  Speaker 2: never let him get dirty as a kid, and but
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  Speaker 2: I've tried to not let that affect them.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, don't let them wear run barefoot outside. I'm like, no,
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  Speaker 2: they're running barefoot outside, you know, because he grew up
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  Speaker 2: that way. They were from the Bronx and they wore shoes,
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  Speaker 2: and I, even though I was from Long Island, we
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  Speaker 2: played in the backyard with no shoes on. And then
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  Speaker 2: we come up state and we play with no shoes on.
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  Speaker 2: So I've tried to fight it, but I guess it's
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  Speaker 2: just genetic. It must be genetic. So I am like
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  Speaker 2: embarrassed that she's gonna go there and be this pretty,
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  Speaker 2: pretty princess and they're just gonna call me one day
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  Speaker 2: be like, yeah, this is not working out. You need
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  Speaker 2: to she needs to go. She doesn't want to get dirty,
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  Speaker 2: she doesn't want to touch this. She doesn't want to
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  Speaker 2: touch a leaf, you know. So I'm praying that it
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  Speaker 2: goes the other opposite way, and she sees the kids
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  Speaker 2: doing it, and she gets into nature and gets her
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  Speaker 2: hands dirty, and it kind of it helps her, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm hoping that it can help her.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have a creek behind your house. Yes, And
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  Speaker 1: I know the whole bear situation is obviously still on
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  Speaker 1: everyone's mind, but can you maybe slowly introduce that to her.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna try. Like, she's petrified to go in the
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  Speaker 2: woods now, but she was and before the bear attack,
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  Speaker 2: every day she'd hold my hand, say mommy, can we
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  Speaker 2: play in the woods. And I had a little fairy
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  Speaker 2: house out there. She'd play with it. We put our
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  Speaker 2: feet in the creek. But now she won't even go
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  Speaker 2: in the yard. She's petrified the bear's going to come
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  Speaker 2: out and attack again. So I understand that she's traumatized.
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  Speaker 2: I could try and bring her out there. I wrote
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  Speaker 2: that in this in my concerns to the school, I said,
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  Speaker 2: she's petrified right now the woods. She's petrified of bears
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  Speaker 2: because they molled my dog in front of her. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm hoping that you guys can help heal her, and
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  Speaker 2: nature can help heal her again and help her trust
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  Speaker 2: to go into nature, you know. So I'm hoping I'll
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  Speaker 2: try my best on my end, but maybe the school
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  Speaker 2: with all the kids doing and saying, hey, come on,
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  Speaker 2: you know, let's go, let's play that, maybe she'll do it.
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  Speaker 2: But I think she's also some kids are just bred
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  Speaker 2: or made to be in the spotlight type thing, you know.
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  Speaker 2: She I think she's going to be in entertainment one day.
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  Speaker 2: I truly do, without a doubt. It's just crazy that
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  Speaker 2: some kids haven't something. My son was not like that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's saying in dance, but Jelena has something
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  Speaker 2: about her three years old, four years old, she's learning
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  Speaker 2: dance moves from music videos, and she's singing, and she
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  Speaker 2: has a good voice for a four year old. It's
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  Speaker 2: like a Shakurra type voice. She has a deeper voice.
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  Speaker 2: And hey, I mean, maybe that's her. Maybe the woods
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  Speaker 2: aren't for her like it was for me. Maybe she's
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  Speaker 2: meant to be in the spotlight dressed up like a
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  Speaker 2: pretty pretty princess, singing, dancing, acting, who knows, you know,
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  Speaker 2: but it's just funny. I'm just hoping they don't judge
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  Speaker 2: me or think she's some stuck up little girl because
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  Speaker 2: I've not raised you know that, I've not raised her
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  Speaker 2: that whole. She's not stuck up, no, I know, but
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  Speaker 2: she's more I'm not touching that, that's a bug on it.
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  Speaker 1: See, that would be like me. But she is more
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  Speaker 1: of the entertainer. I was watching her the other day
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  Speaker 1: and she wanted Shakira on yes, and she was just
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  Speaker 1: belting out Shakira, singing Shakira until I put my phone
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  Speaker 1: on record, and then she stopped and was quiet, and
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  Speaker 1: I said, I can't hear you, and she got a
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  Speaker 1: little louder. But then as soon as I stopped recording,
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  Speaker 1: she was just belting out Shakira and telling me all
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  Speaker 1: these different songs that she sings, she.
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  Speaker 2: Knows them all, all of them, and she tries to
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  Speaker 2: sing in Spanish. Yeah, no, we don't know Spanish, and
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  Speaker 2: it's so cute.
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  Speaker 3: It's so cute.
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  Speaker 2: She at the Shakira concert because we took her to it,
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  Speaker 2: and she loves her so much like her mama. There
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  Speaker 2: was everyone around us with Spanish or Columbian you know
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  Speaker 2: they were, and they thought we were Spanish because Julina
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  Speaker 2: was singing the lyrics, trying to sing in Spanish, like,
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  Speaker 2: oh you guys speak Spanish or she speaks Spanish. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, no, like do you speak Spanish? I said no, Like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, we don't even understand Spanish, but we love
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  Speaker 2: Shakira and they were laughing. But yeah, it's really cute
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  Speaker 2: and I love her experiencing different cultures like that and
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  Speaker 2: trying to learn because I think if I got her
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  Speaker 2: into Spanish lesson, she would pick up on it fast
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  Speaker 2: because she's hearing it all the time and.
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  Speaker 1: Little kids are like sponges.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy, and it's funny that she didn't want
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  Speaker 2: to do it when you record it, because for me,
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  Speaker 2: all day you should see my phone. It's every single day,
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  Speaker 2: Mommy record me, Mommy record me, Mommy record me. And
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  Speaker 2: then she pulls out her dance moves and singing and
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  Speaker 2: I have to record her. Sometimes I just put the
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  Speaker 2: phone on the counter because I'm busy because I can't
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  Speaker 2: stand there, and she's like, are you watching. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: i'll watch it later. It's recording. Mommy's trying to cook.
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  Speaker 2: Last night she made me take out the microphone and
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  Speaker 2: the speaker and put on songs on the TV like karaoke,
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  Speaker 2: and she just shaken her little booty and then and
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  Speaker 2: then it's sometimes it's like is this appropriate or inappropriate?
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  Speaker 2: She's four, but she can dance. She dances like Shakira.
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  Speaker 2: She shakes her hips and when people like my sister
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  Speaker 2: gets on me, she's like, that's not appropriate, Lauren, she shouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: She just has it in her since she was little.
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  Speaker 2: When she would hear music, she could move her body,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and it's not from watching anything. So again,
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  Speaker 2: I think that some kids just have it in them,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: She's definitely got it in her, you know. And the
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  Speaker 1: whole Spanish speaking thing. If you got her into Spanish lessons,
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  Speaker 1: she would.
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  Speaker 2: Just be fluent.
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  Speaker 1: Probably yeah, in like a few weeks, I know. But
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  Speaker 1: a Spanish song that Shakira did came on my Apple
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  Speaker 1: Music and she was like, oh, how do you have
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  Speaker 1: this song? And do you know Shakira? It's magic because
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  Speaker 1: I know Shakira. No, she says, I knowed her.
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  Speaker 2: I knowed her.
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  Speaker 1: I knowed her and did you know that I talked
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  Speaker 1: to Shakira and I'm like, oh boy, yeah you did,
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  Speaker 1: yeah you did. And it was just so cute and
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  Speaker 1: she was just singing in Spanish, and I said, do
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  Speaker 1: you know what they're saying? And she's like, she said, no,
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  Speaker 1: it's not my language.
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  Speaker 2: She said, so funny.
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  Speaker 1: But Shakira has songs in my language. I said, you
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  Speaker 1: mean English, yes, my language.
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  Speaker 2: She is so funny. She is so funny. Yeah, she's
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  Speaker 2: going to be something someday. And I don't know how
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  Speaker 2: to hone in on that or like, you know, what
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  Speaker 2: to do with it. It's just I go back and forth
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  Speaker 2: with it. You know, I want her to be a kid.
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  Speaker 2: But then I'm like, wow, you're really good at this,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: And she's very good at acting.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god. We call her Michelle Tanner. The faces,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the faces she does she does like from
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  Speaker 2: a full house. Yeah that she does those faces like
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  Speaker 2: on her own. We've never shown her the show. Like
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  Speaker 2: you say something to her and we're cracking up, like
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  Speaker 2: your faces, you should be an actress.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, and she's so serious about it too.
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  Speaker 2: I know, she's great.
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  Speaker 1: Clean up your toys.
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  Speaker 4: I'm two times, I'm tired dramatic. The dramatics, yes, And
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  Speaker 4: she falls on the floor and she starts her she
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  Speaker 4: starts to like fake wine.
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  Speaker 2: I can't I'm gonna put her in drama. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's why we're all starts. Put her in drama. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: she'll do some like the musical shows at the schools
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  Speaker 2: when she gets to that point, and see if she
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  Speaker 2: loves it, you know, I don't know. I think that
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  Speaker 2: she will. She loves being in the spotlight and it's
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  Speaker 2: just it's really cute. I just hope that this school
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  Speaker 2: is a good fit for her, because it doesn't seem
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  Speaker 2: like it right now, and I don't want to get
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  Speaker 2: a phone call. But maybe they can bring that nature
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  Speaker 2: part of her that I feel like I brit into her.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully they can pull it out and then she's going
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  Speaker 2: to be comfortable and enjoy that while also being a
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  Speaker 2: pretty pretty princess.
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  Speaker 1: At the same time, she's gonna be in her Cinderella gowns.
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  Speaker 1: That's where she's gonna want to wear.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, mommy, can you put lip gloss on me and
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  Speaker 2: do my hair and let me go my Cinderella gown.
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  Speaker 2: She'll be in the creek in a Cinderella gown while
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  Speaker 2: all the other kids are in rain boots in a
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  Speaker 2: bathing suit or something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh god, you might have to buy a few
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  Speaker 1: Cinderella gowns. Yeah, Yeah, today we have an awesome interview.
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  Speaker 1: I was so excited. We both grew up listening to
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  Speaker 1: Maya and she is on the show this week. She's
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  Speaker 1: performing at Mohegan's Sun on August second in Connecticut, and
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  Speaker 1: it's such a great venue. I've been there before, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm really excited to see her and to meet her.
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  Speaker 1: I just I can't wait. She's been a staple in
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  Speaker 1: our life since we were young.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny like her songs, they came out at a
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  Speaker 2: time when I needed to hear them, or there was
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  Speaker 2: something I was going through in my life, Like I
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  Speaker 2: was joking and laughing about I was dating someone and
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  Speaker 2: X was always bothering us, always bothering him, I should say,
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  Speaker 2: in case of the X came out and I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: and I would put that in my way message on
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  Speaker 2: AOL instant messenger for all the young uns like that
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  Speaker 2: was our that was our cool tool to communicate with
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  Speaker 2: each other. And you know that song was right in
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  Speaker 2: my story right or right in my way message I
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  Speaker 2: should say. And then it was my love is like whoa?
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  Speaker 2: Then we had take me there? Right? That was She
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  Speaker 2: had so many good hits and the dance I love
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  Speaker 2: the music videos. The music videos and her dancing were
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  Speaker 2: some of my favorite parts of watching her and growing
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  Speaker 2: up with her was her dance moves and her songs.
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  Speaker 2: But she was great, a great part of our the
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  Speaker 2: two thousands, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think she came out in maybe ninety nine, two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and one.
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  Speaker 2: It was I just remember it was like, yeah when
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  Speaker 2: we were younger, like in yeah, the late nineties and
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  Speaker 2: then into the early two thousands and huge staple and
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  Speaker 2: the best thing to dance to and listen to and
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  Speaker 2: watch on MTV or I loved watching her crl TRL. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I wish we could go back to those that time
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  Speaker 2: period because it was just they I don't know. I
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  Speaker 2: know maybe every generation says their time period was good,
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  Speaker 2: but I really think that us eighties to nineties babies,
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  Speaker 2: we had such a great time in the in the
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: world and in the music and in everything that was
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: going on. And the Internet had just started, so people
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: weren't obsessed with it. The phones. Cell phones weren't a
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: huge thing, so people weren't they didn't have their nose
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: in it, you know. So it was a great time
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: period to be a teenager and a kid.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: It was the perfect time to grow up because we
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: had you know, you go outside and play and then
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: you had like the little bit of technology mm hmmm
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: that we had.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: It was a good balance.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and no bones. Now it's just iPads, TVs, cell phones,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: cell phones, and video games. Yeah, so there's no like
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: going outside in the woods and.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Create riding your bikes in the neighborhood right playing street hockey.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: It's I feel bad for these kids. So I am
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: excited to when we see Maya, just to be transported
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: back to that time period of music and just that feeling.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Whenever I listen to that that time period of music,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: you get that nostalgia, that comfort feeling. You know, I
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: could picture right where I was or blasting it. And
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: once I was driving blasting Case of the X in
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: my car with my I had my loud system in
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: there and the basically going put no, no, no, bumple, and
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: it just takes you back. So I'm really excited for that.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: On the show today, we have singer and songwriter Maya,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: who we both grew up listening to the Case of
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: the X. I have the album. I used to bring
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: it with me to the hospital and for like all
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: the surgeries, I mean I bought as well, but Mayo's
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: was one, and I would always be listening to your
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: music in the hospital, and that's pretty much what I
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: was known for, was what are you listening to now?
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: When the nurses would come in so and la lah.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Same thing with you.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was for me like I'm a I'm a
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: gen I'm born in nineteen eighty five, so I'm in
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: like the millennial but gen X kind of state, and
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: You're huge for me. So case of the X was
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: it was funny because it was like, when that song
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: came out, I was dating someone, so it was very
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: fitting for what I was going through with his ex,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, we broke up. And then the
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: next song was My Love is like Whoa, and I
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: was telling her, It's funny, you know, aol instant messenger
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: when you could put.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Them away, Oh, my love is like whoa.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: All those lyrics and I had to be in different
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: colors and I'm like, oh, yeah, these guys are gonna
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: read it and think like, oh who she her loves
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: like this her touch Like I'm like this is so cringey.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: I loved you. You're a huge part of my my teen.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Years and we love you. That's so amazing to hear.
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: I don't get to hear those types of stories so often,
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: and definitely not back then because we weren't so connected.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: But it's it's been a jacking right from.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: Our teens to twenties to grow women. Now.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: I think that the two thousands was like the best
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: time to really grow up, and I had the best music. Yes,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: you know, like now, I don't know. Everything just seems
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: it's real, obviously, but it just seems different, very honest.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: In some ways, but also less vulnerable maybe, but you know,
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: who knows.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: I guess there's a.
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: Lot more of the rebel music happening today.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: We definitely had it in our day, but just probably
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: not so much.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So your new album, Retrospect reflects on your journey
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: as an artist, and like I said before, just Call
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: My Name is my favorite song off your album. But
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: what are you most proud of with that album?
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: For the album, I'm just so proud of digging into
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: a space that made me fall in love with music
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: growing up as a seventies baby in my living room,
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: I fell in love with music there first. My father
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: was my first example with his musicians that were always
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: over and those were the songs that brought instant joy
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: to my life of course, stapled memories forever, and also
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: got me through the pandemic because that's literally what my
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: playlists on Spotify sounded like. So I'm really proud of
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: just tapping into my truth and my joy. My previous
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: albums were TKO and Smooth Jones, and they were more
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: rooted in the slow jams for my R and B
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: lovers and my crowd that grew up with me making
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: babies now and falling in real mature, So those two
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: albums were different. So retrospect of course brings the joy,
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: the elements of my living room, the fun, the dance,
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: the party, the personality and in a special time and
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: era that I so know because I was there late
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: seventies into the early mid eighties, like was my childhood.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: So I'm so proud of that. And personally, just perseverance
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: and resilience.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And you've been in the industry since you were
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: a teenager, and what has been the biggest lesson that
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: you've learned in staying true to yourself?
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: Hmm, Well, I think staying true to yourself is a
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: challenge when you're getting to learn yourself right in front
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: of the world is a whole different dynamic added on
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: top of that, And I say giving grace to my
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: younger self as I figure first of all the territory,
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: this new territory and landscape of what this whole thing
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: is of the industry, speaking up for myself in a
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: way that hopefully doesn't offend some. But the egos are
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: still there, but holding on to you and sometimes that
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: means pulling back and pacing yourself and saying no to
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: a lot of things. But I'm really proud of that
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: young girl who just figured it out, and I think
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: time has been on my side. Obviously, not everything was perfect.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: I think the lesson is also to just go for
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: it even when things are not perfect and everything is
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: not known. I think because stifling yourself is because or
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: caused by not taking the risk. So that's always the
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: lesson that I hold on to, even as an adult,
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: even if it's not perfect, Just go for it.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: I love that's true.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: It is true, and it's hard. It's hard to be
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: okay with that or to trust that.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: Sometimes and you're like yeah, and sometimes there's a mess
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: and a disaster that comes from it, but also a
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: lesson right, Yes, yes, sometimes.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: And I think that's what people are afraid of, Yes,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: is the mess, you know, and screwing up.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: And the judgment and criticism that comes from that.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I got in the public.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: Eye, yeah, all of us seeing gurlies did you know,
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: guys too, But the world is a lot more harsh
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: to women and perfectionism, especially during that time. Nowadays, you know,
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: mess is embraced. Your personal life can be on Front
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: Street and people love it. But back then, you know,
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: we're just coming off of the Whitneys, the Mariahs and
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: the Tony Braxton's and the big ballads, the Leine Dion's
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: of the world, and profecttionism was a big thing. So
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: I was in the transitional stage where, you know, that's
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: still an expectation, but probably not as much with my
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: genre and age.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: And I think I feel for you guys because it's
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: just even with media being so out there and people
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: filming everything. And I just a little side story, but
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Shakira just had a big show that I went to.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: She did amazing, amazing, and someone took a picture or
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: zoomed in on her feet and it's all over the
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: internet that she didn't get a pedicure, and I'm just
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: sitting there. I'm like, this poor woman, you know, she
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: just threw it, put a big show. And I feel
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: for you guys, because like you're doing your best out there,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: you're out singing and dancing, and then someone is going
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: to notice the silliest thing and.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Blow it up, to blow it up on anal.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: So I think it's back then it was different, and
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: now there's different things that got to worry about, where
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: they're like, oh you know, oh my gosh, like now
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: they're looking at this or that. And I really feel
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: for everyone in the spotlight that you know, you get nitpicked.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: On even when everything is perfect. They are awful comments.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: So you can't avoid it. And that's also what the
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: New World has taught me, so you take it with
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: a grain of salt and that you're not the only
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: one going through these minute things, because of course there's
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: so much more in the world happening. It's very serious
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: to worry about and be concerned with, so very interesting.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's crazy what people will harp on, I.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: Know, miserable people, you know, and it probably makes us
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: all feel better to laugh at something. I love comedy
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: for those reasons, not when it comes to tearing someone
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: else down for any reason. But you know, I think
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of projection, and that highlights a lot
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: of what that person that's very critical or judgmental keyboard
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: warrior is going through, or how they see themselves or
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: some of their dramas undealt with. So that's the world
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: we live in now, magnified and multiplied.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: So when people look at your career, they see the awards,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: that hit songs and the performances. But what's a chapter
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: of your journey that you wish people knew more about.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: That's a great question. I would say, you know, on
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: a surface level, that's what your supporters or spectators get
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: to see. I really love the process behind the scenes.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: That's where most of the work, if not ninety percent, happens.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: Twenty four cents even in sleep. You know, sleep is
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: huge for recovery, but it's not just a full time business.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: It's an overtime business.
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: And in previous you know interviews, I've mentioned that it's
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: ninety percent of business and logistics and contracts, negotiations, paperwork,
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: all the moving parts, getting travel and documents and all
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: kinds of things, rehearsals together, fittings.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: What does a fitting look like Taillory.
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: Getting to the spot, meeting a day and a half
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: of travel, and setting up shop and living at the
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: venue the day of show and not leaving. There are
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: meet and greets, there are interviews, you know, going from
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: media to media outlet, all kinds of things behind the scenes.
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: Is really something interesting for me to see, actually what
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: goes on in all the mechanics and then all of
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: the roles, because it's not just about the artists, it's
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: about the team.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: It's a unit. What are the other roles that an artist.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: May have to play or other team members may have
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: to play, just to make the simplest thing happen and
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: making it look easy after you're exhausted seventy two hours
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: of no sleep. Those are the really interesting things for me,
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: and I think watching that process is something that I've
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: always wanted to see myself as a spectator, but share.
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: I think that would be really interesting and there's a
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: lot more put on your name when you actually see
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: the real work.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: That goes into it.
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: The performance part is like the cherry on top and
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: the real reward for artists that love to perform, like myself,
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: that's my treat at the end of the day, after
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: doing all the other legwork, which is kind of boring.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, I mean, you're performing at mohegan
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Son and I was told you have a seventy five
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: minute performance. And it's not just And this is what
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: our show is about, is about life beyond the mic,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: the stage, the lights, and a lot of people think
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: that artists just show up like two hours early. They
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: get their hair and makeup done, they get free dinner,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: they go on stage, perform and leave. Well, yes, some do,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: many rappers, yes, but you most artists are not like that. Yeah.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: Many you know that care or that require warm ups,
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: body warm ups so that you don't pull attendon if
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: you're a dancer or wearing high heels or moving vocal
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: warm ups so that you sound great if you're singing live,
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: a prayer, meditation, getting into your zone and your intention
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: of what you're here to do, which to serve the
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: people and leave them better off than when they showed up.
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: You know, you have a duty and get their money's worth,
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: but also exceed expectation. And what's the message I know
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: we're going to do the hits and all of the things,
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: but how are you changing someone's composition and enlightening their
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: day or their thoughts and frequency. So a lot more
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: goes into it, along with weeks of rehearsals sometimes and
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: getting your lighting together, getting the tech aspect right, the sound,
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: all of it plays a part into creating an experience
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: and delivering that. So my favorite types of shows are
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: when all of the bells and whistles are there, or
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: something really bare bones and intimate where you can literally
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: reach out, touch, feel, communicate and invite people on stage.
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm very moved by music as a musician's daughter,
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: and I'll just never forget my first concert ever, which
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: was Sesame Street but all of the things, and I'm
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: a Broadway theater girl too, So I love theater for
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: those reasons because there's a story and you feel amazing
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: electric when there's a production and people are giving and
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: pouring out their gifts. But also you can tell that
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: there's a bit of care and preciseness to convey what
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: the experience is for people to receive in those environments.
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: So there's so much more than showing up.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: But one day. I want to get to the point.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: Where I can just show up in a T shirt, jeans,
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: bare feet, a couple babies on stage that join me,
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: you know, at a stool.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: It's amazing powerful music.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: I hope that for you. I mean, and you're so
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: right with all the little things that people don't see
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: that make it what it is, because I have been
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: to concerts where where when the sound wasn't right, or
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: the mice or the lighting or something, it kind of
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: just loses that and it's not as powerful as it
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: should have been, you know. So it's a lot of.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Absolutely and I'm sure those sound guys and the tech
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: guys are fired.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: It just sometimes and sometimes it's the venue. I went
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: It's play in Albany and the venue just didn't do it. It
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: wasn't the sound wasn't nicetis, and it really ruined the show.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I saw him in the Prudential Center and it was,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: oh my god, the same show but amazing.
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: So acoustics are are a big challenge in huge arenas
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: and stadiums because you're literally singing over top of your
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: last note because of the delay, and it's been a challenge,
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: especially for national anthems concerts that have live bands, there's
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: so much going on, so of course the pros have
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: to be there, and even when they're there, there are
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: so many challenges on the tech side because of the
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: delay or because of a specific configuration of the room
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: that day where the stage actually actually resides. How many
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: people are filling in the seats to absorb the sound,
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: The mechanics and the science behind everything, my goodness, yeah, chemistry,
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: yeah so much.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Have you performed at Mohegan's Sun before?
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: I have not, and I'm so excited that I get
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: to for the first time.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a beautiful venue. I've been there and I've
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: seen a band perform, and the sound in that venue
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: was just amazing. They got it on point. Yeah. I
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: mean I couldn't see anything because I'm only four feet tall,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: but it was The song was good. It was great,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: and we cannot wait to see you at Mohegan's Sun.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I hope tickets are still available, and we'd love to
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: meet you.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, We're gonna definitely do a meet and greet.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be great.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: But my other favorite parts, yes.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: And so success often comes with sacrifices and looking back,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: what has been the biggest challenge. Would you say that
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: people never saw behind the scenes.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: Hmmm, you know I always start my day, but also
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: life and complaint or assessments with gratitude. I am so
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: privileged and blessed to be doing something that I number
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: one love.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Too.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: I have full control of now after weathering many storms.
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: I think the challenges are it's not there's not just
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: one hoping that everything works like clockwork, you know, from
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: flights to bags, making it no weather delays or mechanical issues,
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: and just waking up to see another day, especially in
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: the world that we live in currently. Two regarding business,
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: you know, there's a lot of holdups. It can take
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: months to years for something to be clear or someone
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: to sign off. There are a lot of legal challenges
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: in the business. Obviously, budget is everything, especially when you're
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: an independent artist or not, because there's a lot of
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: funding and it all adds up. So budgeting is a
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: big thing. Financial literacy and understanding that early on as
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: much as possible so that you protect your art but
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: also your livelihood as simple as it may be. Those
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: are some of the behind the scenes challenges, but also
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: you know, getting everyone on the same page to execute
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: your vision. What is your vision, it's not everyone else's.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: And so leading with lovely, leading with joy and passion
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: and showing others your work ethic allows them to also
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: level up when they see the art is working harder
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: then everyone else around and showing it for yourself so
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: that others may want to hop on your ship. The
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: ship still has to move and you have to make
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: it go before others even want to be involved, especially
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: when you know budgets are not conducive.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: All the time, because they're.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: Not all the time. That's just the reality of business
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: and just making it happen with whatever it takes. So
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: I think showing up and being the example is always
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: a challenge because that requires you to be the first
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: to wake up, the last to go to bed, if you.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Even sleep, and that begins to.
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: Have a domino effect on everyone that's around you, and
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: then there becomes no excuses and then we start to
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: rise and then the opportunities come. But as the leader
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: of your group, you must lead properly bike and it challenge.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: And what is the difference between being on a label
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: versus being independent? I never understood that, Like, how does
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: that work?
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: So as a label, there are many different aspects of
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: having a label, operating a label, owning a label, of
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: financing a label, and what a label is basically on
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: a boutique level for me, is just an imprint of
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: where everything happens. The creation of the music, the scouting
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: of the musicians or producers, the negotiations, the contracts, the legal,
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: the publishing, the admin all of the things, the mixing,
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: the mastering, the artwork, the photo shoots, the video shoots,
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: the promotion, the marketing, the pr publicity, and investing in
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: all of that by hustling. Hustling means getting your butt
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: on the road or doing certain types of deals that
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: offer an advance. I haven't accepted any advances, so I'm
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: literally generating one one hundred percent of my funds by
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: staying diusy. The sacrifice from the outside looking in would
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: be there's no time for a personal love life. There's
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: no time for holidays and families sometimes or birthdays or.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: Even even my own.
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: I'm usually working on my birthday, but I'm not complaining
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: about it because I'm doing what I love and investing
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: in my vision and funding these amazing albums and songs
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: that mean something like just call my name, that impact
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: in a different way than when I.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Was a teenager.
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: With the marketability and the pop life and coming of age,
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: and those are very service level hits, and they were great,
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: But there's something else calling me, and there's an assignment.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: So I'm very passionate about first of all, leading the
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: way and a roadless travel, figuring it out because I
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: really love music and power of music and all the
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: other things that come with offer an opportunity, internships and
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: bringing local folks on the road that have never been
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: out of the country or to another state, and really
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: empowering your community the artists of your area, and offering
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: opportunities to the next and being well equipped with knowledge
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: from the legal aspect to whatever it is copyrighting clearances
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: to own as an entrepreneur, which is empowerment, but also
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: be in control of your legacy and what it is
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: that truly represents thece and spirit of you versus just
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: marketability and auduct you know, which is great for the
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: corporate world, and they can both merge and exist.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: But sometimes when you are in the system.
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: With a major label, there's a big budget, but you
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: are just a product.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: You're not a human being.
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: So I think it's a bit important now for me
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: to maintain my humanity but also understand the business and
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: be able to navigate in it on my timeline versus
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: a deadline and a schedule. When it's ripe, when it's
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: ready to be served, probably so that people can receive
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: it at the highest capacity and be affected by it
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: in a positive manner too.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: And I think you also have the ability to be
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: in control of every little aspect of your career and
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: your music and everything that goes behind the scenes to
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: making an album. You don't have to listen to anyone
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: that too.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: But also when you have freedom, you're living on a
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: playground and you can literally reverse your age just by
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: living in alignment. And I can tell you when I
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: was a teenager in my early twenties, like I was
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: stressed out, I wasn't as happy, I wasn't as joyous.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: And yes there are days.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: Of consecutive no sleep in the independent journey. It's not
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: fully about just maintaining control because I also don't know everything.
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: It's I think being empowered to bring on people and
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: cast or build a team in relationships and lean on
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: others globally that have more expertise, call producers that you
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: may have chemistry with versus what a label may already
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: have a deal with or politics with, and have to
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: wait in line for a budget to open just to
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: record something. You're literally in full control of your schedule
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: of your life, how you live, what the budget is doing,
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: where you're going to actually spend important things for the investment,
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: and where you can cut back. You can make those
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: critical decisions so that you always are in the know.
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: It's very important just for your own sanity, knowledge, awareness,
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: and then empowerment. But it's fun. After you've mastered a
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: lot of different skill sets and you're in a safe zone,
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: you can begin to truly live differently in your art
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: and in your personal life and then be that bright
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: light for others. You know, it's a great place to land.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: And so going with that, you launched your career during
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: MTV VH one. The CDs radio is huge now, you
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: know that drogue of the music industry. Now it's not like that,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: right There's people aren't really buying CDs anymore. They're streaming.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Do they even make CDs anymore? I don't even know.
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: I do as merch you know, I come from an
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: era where we have cassette CDs and vinyl. Yeah, you know,
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: I'm always going to do a CD, always going to
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: do vinyl from this point on because now they're more
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: in demand. Yes, yeah, from our core group at memorabilia
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: is something that you can touch and feel. Because we
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: are in the streaming digital age right.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: A huge adjustment. Has that made things harder or easier?
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Do you think for anyone in the music industry right
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: now to get their out?
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: I think both. I think both.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: I think when you're smart with your money, with your investment,
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: you see your return or have other means of income
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: and it's just not reliant on record seals because hey,
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: you're only as great as what you put in. You're
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: only going to get back what you put in, and
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: sometimes it doesn't work like that in business. But I
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: think when you're a touring artist and you're conducting meet
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: and greets, people want something to walk away with, whether
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: it's a T shirt, CD, vinyl, all of these things,
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: and over time you know you can sell out. There's
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: also Amazon stores and Shopify, all the things digitally that
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: people have, you know, print on demand acts too as well.
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: I think all of the things are great to empower
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: artists and keep something going, but also serve your supporters.
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: I think the adjustment is always at play in a
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: very very well, ever changing business, not just for artists
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: but for labels too. The record stores are no longer,
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: so there are no more signings at a record store,
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: but oh there are certain pop up shops or boutiques
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: and different brand partners that you can pop up in
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: like a Sophara or Alta Beauty and do a signing.
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: And there are different ways that people or corporations and
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: artists are figuring out how to serve and how to
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: empower themselves or stay afloat.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: Streaming is still being figured out.
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: Literally, I just read the other day that you have
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: to produce a million streams before you can make four
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: thousand dollars. And a song purchase is well over four
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: thousand dollars right per producer. So I mean whether you
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: recoup or not, it's dependent upon how much you spend,
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: what your lifestyle is.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, even with us, it's very hard to keep us afloat.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: It's hard, I thought, yeah, because I missed the days
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: where my favorite artists would have a new album coming
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: out and I'd run f Ye or their store.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Media apply, do you remember media ply, Oh my god,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: and then.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: You're looking through like the little pamphlet with the you
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: know I miss that now. Everything is just so.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Separating. Yeah, but the anticipation is not there.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And a lot of artists don't do meet and
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: greets or anything. They won't even do interviews in person.
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: Well, if it's on a show day, I'm sure that
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: can be challenging because of all the rehearsals and the
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: travel and if they get.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: There on time, yes, that can be tough.
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: So if the venue doesn't have a curfew where everyone
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: has to leave so quickly, i'man conducting all of my
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: interviews and meet and greets after the performance unless we
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: get there a day before, you know, if that's you know,
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: covered in our contract and the budget allows. So there's
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: so many things that don't allow us, unfortunately, to do
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: interviews the day of show, especially for traveling that day.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: It's so much.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: It's it is it's crazy.
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: I go to Bethel Woods a lot in Woodstock, and
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: that's another place you have to go to and perform.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: And you know, some days we're pulling in when the
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: buses are pulling in with the singer and the artists
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: and they got to be on stage and you know,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: two hours, but you know they were stuck in traffic and.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Another city if they're on a tour bus.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, and you know it's it's crazy and they
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: have to delay the performance or the weather and so
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: much goes into it and you can't just run out
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: on stage and perform.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: I mean you can, but and I.
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: Have flat fires with cancel flights and weather conditions, mechanical
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: issues with planes and literally just making it to the
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: vine five minutes late after my set time and running
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: to the stage from the sprint divan doing my hair
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: and makeup on the sprint of Van Sewing in my pack,
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: power my shirts.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Like oh the things, straight to the stage.
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: It gets wild, hey, but yeah, you feel like a
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: rock star afterward, right, It's like.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: An adrenaline, so it probably makes it more.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: It is like I just did it, yes, you know,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: and the fans have no idea.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: No, you gotta make it look pretty and easy.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So what advice would you give to young artists
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: trying to build a lasting career in music and the
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: entertainment industry instead of chasing overnight success, because so many
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, when I was younger, I used to be like,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be famous overnight, and it's like twenty years
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: later and we're well known, but we're not famous. We're
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: still trying to make its advice would you give to.
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: Them, honestly, to each his own. I think everyone is
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: an individual someonet overnight success and fame and they've dreamt
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: of it since they were a girl or a little boy,
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: and that is okay. Some people don't want longevity to
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: be doing this at fifty sixty, seventy eighty years old,
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: and some do. For those that do want longevity, I
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: would say, identify your why, what is driving you. Fame
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: is a very dangerous thing. It's also an illusion and
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: it's not real. It's crafted by ego, right, And I
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: think one constant thing that will keep you in demand
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: is making sure that people are the center of your creations,
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: and that means removing your ego and being becoming a
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: servant honestly. As you evolve, obviously, have fun and enjoy
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: the journey along the way, especially if you're starting in
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: this game very young. For young artists, sometimes it does
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: have to be all about you when you're first starting
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: and enjoy the moment. But as you begin to mature
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: and learn life lessons. The question must be what are
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: you offering people? Is it your vulnerability? Is it message,
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: whether it's social, political stance, etc. How are you making
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: the world a better place through raw, real rebel, music
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: or honesty, whatever it is that's for you and we
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: all deserve and have space to coexist altogether. There's not
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: one right way, and I don't even think there's one
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: wrong way except for drugs and alcohol, which can take
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: your life prematurely. So staying healthy and staying aligned with
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: good things, but also you know, not beating yourself up
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: when the mistakes are made. Asking for help. Building a
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: team to.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: Do this solo.
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: Maybe a requirement sometimes, but I think stepping outside of
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: fear but also asking for help in those fears and
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: doubts is very important. To to build a team that
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: will believe in your vision but also assist you along
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: the way. And those team players may help may change
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: over time, but it does take a squad, you know,
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: to stay in this thing an evolution. Taking some time
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: off and not chasing the illusion of fame is very
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: important so that you do have an offering to give
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: from some life experience or you know, deep dives in
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: personal self and then allowing yourself to creatively play to
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: figure it out, you know, with your crafts, and you
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: get better over time. I look at every performance as
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: a rehearsal after the rehearsals, and there's something to learn
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: from every stage and phase of your life. Yeah, and
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: give yourself the grace to do so. Yeah.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: And I was interviewing a lot of celebs and musicians.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: I've also learned that staying true to like your moral
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: the morals, and your gut feelings too, because a lot
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: of slugs that we have interviewed said that they've gotten
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: with the wrong crowd. They were chasing that like overnight
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: success with someone who maybe promised too much, but also
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: it went against their their morals or their gut feeling
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: and then they made some bad decisions that hurt their
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: career or even if it hurt them, I mean, or
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: if it helped their career, it hurt them personally, you know,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: and it changed them. So I think that that also helps,
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: is that your stay true to your to your morals.
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: You know, absolutely, and for protection getting aligned with a
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: legal firm or team or lawyer. You can start looking
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: at colleges if you can't necessarily afford, you know, a
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: very expensive entertainment lawyer. There are young people practicing entertainment
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: law right now or studying it and in internships at
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: firms that you can lean on at lesser and lower
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: rates to really protect your art and all the things
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: and the creation, the copyrights, the publishing, someone to guide
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: you and hold your hand along the way, to protect
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: you as well from the many different aspects of what
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: can happen to your art if it's not sealed with paperwork.
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: In the business of music.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: So what can our fans expect from your performance at
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Mohegan Sun. What do you hope that they take away
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: from the show?
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: Well, I am a performer and I love music, you know,
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: every aspect of music.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: Of course, the expectation for the hit from the catalog.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Is a given.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: That's Noraighter.
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna be doing the hits from nineteen ninety eight
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: all the way until. And I also have an extensive
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: independent catalog, so you'll get many different aspects of the
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: grown maya, the theatrical maya, the dancer maya, the vocalist maya,
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: the spiritual maya. So that we have a ball, we
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: have a fun We raise our vibration, but we also
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: receive message and I want everyone to feel like they
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: came out to of course enjoy themselves with entertainment, but
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: leave feeling hi naturally and like they receive something and
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: take that with them. So all the bells and whistles,
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: my live band will be there, my dances will be there.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: I love a production now.
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: Well theater, you know, so I can't give away too much,
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: but I am dedicating my August to doing this show
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: and I'm so excited to see you all.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: For those bonds.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Are you doing?
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: Just call my name if that's a request, let me
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: see my band can learn it. I've taken a lot
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: of requests request, are you scared to be on stage?
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Me? Yeah, no, I get used to it. I mean
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: I've been on stage before, I've spoken in front of people.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: But just don't ask me to sing. We'll see.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: We play a game. Those that have offered special requests
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: come join me and sing it with me on stage.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: That'll be Laala Amazing. Lala actually is a singer.
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: We love it.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: I had kids, but yeah, when I was younger, I
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: went with a little band around local town.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it was fun.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: I love I love being on the stage, and it
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: was funny. I could sing on stage two people crowd,
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: but if someone in a room like me and two
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: people were like, oh, sing for me, I would freak out.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know why. But in front of me.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's usually the opposite.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: It's so weird. No one understood it, maybe because judging me, or.
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: Was it on the spot in front of people on
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: the stage or on the spot like.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: In front of two people.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: On the spot in front of two people. But yeah,
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: I mean I was always nervous before going on.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: Stage, but I was fine.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: But if in the room you have someone was like,
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, I.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: Just yeah, I need more people.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, five hundred more people, right.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's awesome. I mean, I'm we're so excited
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: to see the show, and I am. I'm so happy
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: that you said you're going to do some of your
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: older hits.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: You, Oh, yeah, all of them.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, we need to feel younger again.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Hey, I can't believe it, Like you haven't aged.
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: No, I have, and I promote aging because it means
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: another day on this earth.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: So I'm proudly aging.
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: And I don't claim not to be aging because many
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: things have changed.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: I love that. I love artists that come out for women,
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: for our little girls and say, hey, just it's beautiful
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: to age. It's age naturally age, you're you know. I
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: love that and it's a good message for you.
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: I do not like to fit in my twenty one
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: year old body, nor do I want to.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Honestly, Lauren has a four year old daughter and she
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: used to say she needed makeup to be beautiful.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Just from watching on TV. And so it's been hard
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: to four years old. It makes me upset. So I
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: love hearing artists say like, no, you know, be yourself agent.
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, embrace all of the things and the changes. Yes, yeah,
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: it's another day on Earth.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: I am so grateful just for that.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, Yes, thank you on the show,
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: and we lived hearing about the behind the scenes with you,
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: and that's what we all of our listeners to know.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: They get to learn a little bit about what ticks
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: and what goes on and yeah.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: It doesn't just happen in the snap of a finger, oh.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: No, and sometimes it has to.
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, but that means that you've rehearsed over and
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: over and over again so that you're ready to just
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: go at the drop of a dime, and that can
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: also happen too.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: That's called being seasoned.
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, years and decades of rehearsals and performances.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Now are you currently doing rehearsals for the August second performance?
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: The dancers have started rehearsals and the band starts rehearsals today.
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: I've been doing all the behind the scenes logistics, but
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: also editing the show myself, typing up all of the
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: lyrics for the background vocals to learn, and learning new
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: choreography virtually myself, and recording my backgrounds as well, so
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: that we also have stacked backgrounds for the arena flavor
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: that you'll hear underneath my live background vocalists. So I've
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: been doing a lot of that in the studio where
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: I am currently right now.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you look like you're in your studio.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: The next component is getting the wardrobe together so everyone's
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: in sync, you know, and custom changes and the things.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Who comes up with your costumes? Do you like design
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: them and say like this is what I want to
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: wear or.
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: It works differently, So sometimes I have a stylist. Sometimes
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: I'll pre order performance attire, you know. Sometimes I'll have
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: a seamstress or a designer that makes things custom especially
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: for tours where you're wearing things over and over and
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: over again, and it has to be tour durable for sweat,
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: but also durable so there are no tears and rips
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: and all the things that can happen if you're dancing
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: on stage. But it works differently depending on the type
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: of show, the length of the show, and the order
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: of your sets and the acts within the show.
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: What does that look like? What are you conveying?
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: And I'm a sketch artist too. My mom is a
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: pincha draw She draws. My grandmother was a professional artist,
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: so I know how to draw and I've been doing
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: it since I was a teenager. All of the outfits
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: that I want to see come to life. I designed
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: my very first music video outfit and stitched it out.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: So I really love you know, all of the aspects
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: of production and seeing thanks kind of live.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: It's fun to me.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: Right, we know who to call when we become famous
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: and have to go on stage.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: I can design you a cute little outfit. Now everyone's famous.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: That's true, yeah, right, and everyone's the ip period.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: Yes, very true.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: But thank you again.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: It's been amazing and we cannot wait to see you.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: And that is on in Mohegan.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: Sun yes, August second, I think seven at night.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: And yet I think it's still available that people can
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: go on like Ticketmaster and order tickets right.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, tickets are available and Ticketmaster or you can go
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: directly to the website that will direct you.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: Awesome, Thank you, thank you so much, looking forward to it.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: So, speaking of growing up in the late eighties early nineties,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: the other thing we didn't have was social media, obviously.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: And I was watching Cops the other day and this
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: they got a call to go to a house for
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: an eight year old girl who they at the time
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: didn't know what was going on. They thought she was
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: being abused because of how loud she was screaming, and
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: come to find out, the mom took the girl's cell
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: phone away because of her mouth or whatever the reason was.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: And she said, I took away her cell phone, which
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: gave her access to Snapchat and Facebook, she said, And
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: I'm realizing now that she is too young for Facebook
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: and Snapchat and I shouldn't have given in to her.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: And I'm thinking to myself, she's eight years old. Oh
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: my gosh, why is she on Facebook Snapchat?
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: Especially? Oh my god?
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: I mean I have Snapchat. You have Snapchat, but I
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: don't even really use it. I don't know how to
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: use it. And every time somebody sends me a picture,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: it goes away, so I can't even like save it.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you miss it, it's gone. Eight year old.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: There's no need for her to have Snapchat other than
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: I know, like my daughter, she's four, she likes me
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: to open my Snapchat and do the filters on her face.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like the funny faces.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: So little kids. I know they like that, but that
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be. Oh you like doing filters, let me give
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: you your own Snapchat. No, it's like, hey, you want
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: to use mommies and put a funny filter on your face.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: That's okay, you know, yeah, but it's it's gotten so bad, Shauna.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, these kids have everything. My son is twelve
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: going on thirteen. He does not have Snapchat, He does
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: not have Instagram, he does not have Facebook. Does he
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: go on the tablet to talk to his friends. I
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: allow that, I allow him to do. They do like
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: FaceTime and talk to each other, but he doesn't have
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: any of that, and I would not let him have
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: any of that. That's crazy.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and your son has a cell phone, but it's.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: A parental a parental cell phone.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: So you can only he can only call certain phone numbers.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I put the phone numbers in there that
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: he can call or text. He has no internet access
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: on it. I GPS track it, so it's like a
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: very safe phone. It's for me to basically make sure
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: he's okay when he's at after school activities, if he
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: needs me at school, some sort of emergency comes up
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: because sometimes they don't let him call home. So it's that.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: But he has no internet access, and he was upset.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: He's like, all my friends have iPhones. Why do I
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: have to get this phone because it's like an off
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: brand phone. I said, because that's what you're getting, and
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: if you complain, I'm going to take that away from
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: you and you won't even have that. And then he
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: gets quiet, you know. So it all comes down to parents,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: because whatever you give your you can't blame the kids.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: Social Media is addicting. Phone are addicting. I know because
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: I'm addicted, right, We're all addicted in our own ways. Yeah,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: so now you give that to a little kid who is, like,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: you said, a sponge, what do you expect. It's not
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: their fault, it's a parent's fault. Don't ever let them
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: have it in the first place, and then you don't
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: have to deal with what you're saying. I'm guessing she
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: probably had a full blown tantrum shutdown.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: She was screaming, and when the cops walked into the
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: apartment complex, you heard them screaming at each other. And
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: one thing I commend the cop for doing is telling
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: the girl. She said, She's like, let's have a talk.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: She said, do you think how you're acting is appropriate?
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: And do you think going on Facebook and snapchat is appropriate?
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: She said, if you were my child, I would take
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: it away from you and you wouldn't have it. And
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: so she was like, do you want it to be
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: taken away from you? And the girl was like no.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: She's like, so sorry to your mother and give her
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: a hug. And I just I commend her for doing
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: that because obviously the mother isn't strong enough to take
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: it away from her.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because she tried, right, and that's why she had Yeah,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: she tried.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: But you got to be a parent, you know, and
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: not allow your child to have everything that every other
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: kid has.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and be able to say no and hold out.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: You remember me and my son. Whenever I felt like
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: he was getting too addicted to a tablet, I would
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: take it away for a month, two months, sometimes the
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: whole summer, and parents are like, how do you do that?
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, because they couldn't deal with their kids.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: That's what tablets became babysitters for children, and I gret
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: I get it. I am guilty of it. I've done
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: it with my daughter because she she was a lot,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: and if I had to go to a doctor appointment
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: or I had to do something important, here sit on
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: the tablet and watch one of your shows. And it works.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: It keep theirs their zombies. But as a parent, you've
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: got to say, oh, no, you know this is not good.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: This is not good. When they have it all the time, Oh,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: they're you know, my friends would be like, oh, they
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: leave me alone for hours. That's why I can't take
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: the tablet away from them. Then they're gonna be up
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: my butt. Well that's the point of having kids. Why
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: have kids If you're not willing to deal with them,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: you know why you want to put them on a
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: tablet and create zombies. So again I blame them. I
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: blame the parents and you. It's gonna be tough, Like
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: with anything that anyone's addicted to, there's gonna be a
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: withdrawal period. It's going to be rough for those first
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks, and then they get over it and
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: they learn to play again, and they learn to not
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: be bored all the time, and they learn to use
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: their imagination. You just got to suffer through those first
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: few weeks and take it away.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: Now, have you ever taken it away from Juliina?
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, on vacations. You know, she didn't have it at all.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: I think only on the car ride home. We gave
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: it to her a little bit because it was we
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: had the road trip from Florida to New York.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: A lot. We've taken it away and she does good.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: It's my son now that he is older, he is
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: on it more because he talks to his friends a
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: lot and he misses like he gets upset because he
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: wants to talk to his friends. And I try and
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: understand because I remember when we were on AOL and semessenger. Yeah,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: my mom was very strict, like we only had an
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: hour because we had had two other siblings, sliblings. We
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: had an hour each to talk to our friends and
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: it wasn't enough, and I wanted more and i'd cry
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: and Mommy, I wanted my friends. They are allowed to
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: be on it all night and talk to each other,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: and she's like, Nope, not happening. I remember how I
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: felt as a tween, but I don't think I was twelve.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember what age it was. Maybe close
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: to that, because I think I was in eighth grade
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: when I was on that a lot. So I get it,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: so I try. I try to be a little bit
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: more lenient with it, but then they take advantage. Kids
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: will take advantage if you're not on top of them.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: They're like, oh, she said two hours, Well you know
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: she's not coming up here, so I'm gonna stay on
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: for three hours and four hours.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's just nature.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: It's normal. That's why you have to be a parent.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: You can't blame the kid. You have to be a parent.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: And that's our show. Thank you so much for tuning in.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: Be sure to check out maya August second at mohegan
• 1:08:15
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• 1:08:20
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• 1:08:27
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• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: And check me out at Bella Underscore Lalla one two five.
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  Speaker 1: We will see you next week