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EPISODE 23: “Tighten Up, Buttercup — The Real Talk on Pelvic Floors & Postpartum Bodies” · It's Mom O'Clock

• 0:00
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• 1:14
  Speaker B: You guys, stop.
• 1:16
  Speaker C: Is it Mama Clock yet? I am going crazy.
• 1:19
  Speaker A: Heck, yeah. It's Mama Clark somewhere.
• 1:42
  Speaker C: We're here.
• 1:43
  Speaker A: We're here.
• 1:43
  Speaker B: We're back.
• 1:44
  Speaker A: I never know what episode this is. What episode?
• 1:46
  Speaker C: Are we on 23?
• 1:47
  Speaker A: Are you sure?
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  Speaker C: No, I can't.
• 1:50
  Speaker A: Well, honestly, today we are talking bodies, baby.
• 1:54
  Speaker C: All about the body.
• 1:54
  Speaker B: All about the body. Tight, tight body.
• 1:56
  Speaker A: I know nothing about my body. It's definitely not tight. No. I'm being so serious. I don't have the problem where when I sneeze, I pee because I had a C section.
• 2:05
  Speaker C: Yeah. But. Oh, I guess. Yeah. All right, so she's really fucking tight. Cool.
• 2:10
  Speaker A: But we have somebody here today with us who's going to answer all of our questions.
• 2:15
  Speaker C: All of them.
• 2:16
  Speaker A: All of them.
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  Speaker B: I love it.
• 2:17
  Speaker A: Say hello to Danielle, our second guest on the podcast. Hey, girl.
• 2:21
  Speaker B: Hey. Thanks so much for having me, guys. I'm excited to be here.
• 2:24
  Speaker A: So excited to have you.
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  Speaker B: Likewise.
• 2:27
  Speaker A: Are you kidding? Anyway, I really do have a serious question. I had a C section. She did not. She had three kids. So is that the reason why I don't pee when I. So I have.
• 2:38
  Speaker B: No, you definitely can, because you were pregnant for nine months. That puts so much stress and strain on your bladder and on your pelvic floor. It definitely could be a side effect. I think you just. You don't look, for whatever reason. Have it. You lucked out.
• 2:52
  Speaker A: Wait, how do I know.
• 2:53
  Speaker C: Or she just says it like she's. Or I'm pretending I had a C section. I'm still so tight.
• 2:59
  Speaker A: No, I definitely am, I swear. Ask my husband.
• 3:01
  Speaker C: But no, that's not true. You dilated till 9 cm.
• 3:04
  Speaker A: I did. But you didn't.
• 3:05
  Speaker C: No, I did.
• 3:06
  Speaker A: Oh, yeah, true. So, yeah, I did dilate to nine and a half centimeters. So I probably. So you still stretch, but how would I know? Anyway, we're gonna get into all the things. We're so excited to have Danielle here. Obviously you're going to talk all about, I mean, why she's here and who is she. Everyone's probably like, who the fuck's Danielle? Well, she's going to tell us who she is, she's going to tell us why she is, why she exists, who.
• 3:28
  Speaker C: She is, why she is. But we really, let's just. You introduce yourself, introduce yourself.
• 3:33
  Speaker A: Give us like who you are, why you're here, really. And we want to know what you created, what you created and the why behind it. Your background, all the things. Go ahead. All the things.
• 3:43
  Speaker B: All the things. I love it. Well, my name is Danielle. I'm the founder of Maya well, which is a. A first of its kind signature workout method that is dedicated to pelvic floor and deep core. And it's an in person group fitness class. Basically created this off of my need. I live in New Jersey, I'm a mama to two little boys. And especially after my second, I was just realizing all the things I was peeing when I sneeze and was just experiencing so many issues that kind of are brushed off as normal and quote, normalized because so many women experience it. But at the same time I was just like, there's gotta be another way. And so I was searching for a fitness class for pelvic floor, um, and I have a fitness background. I built another fitness company and literally could not find it anywhere. I couldn't find an in person group fitness class that was dedicated to pelvic floor and deep core where I wanted a full body workout, but I also wanted to strengthen and connect and reconnect to my pelvic floor and overcome all of those different issues that I was experiencing and so many other women do. So long story short, I was just talking same conversation to all my girlfriends. We're all experiencing the same things. And finally my one friend was just like, why don't you just create it?
• 4:54
  Speaker C: Right?
• 4:54
  Speaker B: And that just sparked a light bulb. And when I have an idea, I can go from E to Z tomorrow, same. And that's really how Maya well, was born. It turned into the Maya Method, which is the signature method. I got certified, and I've been certified in personal training, group fitness training, all the different modalities, Created my own fitness method and then basically use that method or background, Got certified in pelvic floor and core confidence, and created the Maya method, which is a signature method based off the things I learned through the certification, but really turned it into a total body workout that I was looking for.
• 5:29
  Speaker C: And you have the fitness background, like, to do that.
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  Speaker B: Right, right.
• 5:33
  Speaker A: School for that?
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  Speaker B: No, I went to school for marketing and entrepreneurship, which essentially is, you know.
• 5:37
  Speaker A: Falls into that, you know, and then.
• 5:39
  Speaker B: I got into fitness after college. I started my own just personal training and then my own other fitness brand, and then got certified, had all the backgrounds for fitness. And then I just wanted to add on and got the core confidence in pelvic floor certification, which is overall, just learning about the body and your pelvic floor and the different muscles. And then I created a method that incorporated the structure and the science of what I was learning into functional exercises.
• 6:03
  Speaker A: I mean, are you in a textbook? I feel like I'm like, no. Danielle created the Mind Method. They're like, oh, like, what book is that? And I'm like, I feel like it is in a book.
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  Speaker C: She's making it in a book.
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  Speaker B: No.
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  Speaker A: 100% a book.
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  Speaker B: Tomorrow.
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  Speaker A: No, literally, probably A to Z. No, but my first question for you is.
• 6:20
  Speaker C: I have a lot of questions.
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  Speaker A: No, I have so many questions, I don't even know where my train of thought is. But I'm saying, like, did you have to get stamp of approval to, like, create the Maya Method? Like, how? I know you've got all the certifications and the backgrounds, but, like, is there, like, is Maya Method yours?
• 6:33
  Speaker B: Yes. So Maya method is my signature method that I created.
• 6:37
  Speaker C: How'd you come up with the name?
• 6:38
  Speaker B: So Maya is rooted in the name itself is we just want something that was, like, powerful and not corny, like core confidence or power core or just something like we. Or pelvis, whatever. We wanted something that was strong. And so we're looking into it. And my friend who actually gave me the idea was, came up with the name Maya. And when you look into it, in Roman mythology and Latin, it means, like, fertility, empowerment, motherhood, confidence.
• 7:01
  Speaker A: I didn't know that.
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  Speaker B: Yeah, it kind of just. Yeah.
• 7:03
  Speaker A: Oh, that way.
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  Speaker B: Strong.
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  Speaker C: In Hebrew, I think it also means.
• 7:07
  Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of different meanings, and it all roots back to, like, fertility, motherhood, empowerment, confidence, and it kind of just embodied everything that we represent. And it's just you.
• 7:16
  Speaker C: Right.
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  Speaker B: Me. And then my other friend who gave me the idea, you know, she. She's behind the scenes for now, but as her kids get a little bit older and she has a little bit more time, she's gonna come. Yeah. Full force.
• 7:27
  Speaker C: But.
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  Speaker B: Right. I bounce ideas off of her, and I think just having somebody to talk to, everything. Yeah. And then I came up, you know, did the certifications and came up with the method and got the classes going and all of that.
• 7:37
  Speaker A: I mean, that's awesome. I mean, but for you to start this, were you like, oh, my God, I'm peeing my pants way too much, like, I need help?
• 7:44
  Speaker B: I just was frustrated, and I think.
• 7:46
  Speaker A: Did you go to pt?
• 7:47
  Speaker B: No. Well, so I actually went to PT after I created the method, because I wanted to just be like, well, I wanted to make sure. Yes. What's the difference? Wanted to make sure, like, what I created was effective. And to your point, before I have the certifications, I created the method, but I also built out a medical advisory board of doctors, chiropractors, other medical professionals were built. But bringing on an OB really, to take the class and validate that, yes, these exercises are safe. So while I created the method and pulled together the different exercises that progress, I wanted medical professionals to say, like, yes, this is safe, effective, validated.
• 8:20
  Speaker A: That was gonna be my next question.
• 8:21
  Speaker B: Yeah. And all the things. So that's goes back to what you were saying. Like, I created it kind of and put it together on my own, but have medical professionals to back it up.
• 8:29
  Speaker C: That's really awesome.
• 8:30
  Speaker B: And you asked one other question. What was that?
• 8:32
  Speaker A: Did you pee your pants? Oh.
• 8:33
  Speaker C: Oh. How many times have you peed your pants?
• 8:37
  Speaker B: So many.
• 8:38
  Speaker C: First of all, did you have a vaginal birth? C section? What'd you have?
• 8:40
  Speaker B: 2. Vaginal and actually pzotomy. The first time, which I was like, was a piece anatomy, when they, like, tears all the way through. And I was like, that was probably unnecessary. I kind of think that was a mean part of all of this. And just I. I just. It was brushed off way too many times, and just. I would run, I would pee. I would, you know, trip and then pee. I would sneeze, I would pee.
• 9:01
  Speaker A: Oh, my God. Did that happen to you too?
• 9:03
  Speaker C: No, but I. I didn't have the. Whatever. She just said snip.
• 9:07
  Speaker B: How many.
• 9:07
  Speaker C: How many stitches?
• 9:08
  Speaker B: And that's. That's not common anymore. I think it used to be. I don't know why my doctor did that anyway. But even without. Well, if you care.
• 9:16
  Speaker C: I feel like.
• 9:16
  Speaker B: Yeah, even without having the pz, I mean, even just having a C section, you. Because you have nine months of so much additional pressure and strain on your pelvic floor and on your. And pushing on the different muscles that it absolutely can. Can happen.
• 9:29
  Speaker C: And also, I just feel like you as a fitness person, you were used to feeling just like, tight, your core, everything. And then when everything' like, out of line.
• 9:36
  Speaker B: Yeah. And everyone would just be like, well, that's just part of having kids. And I just the final straw. I think I was rushing, bringing my kids to school. I tripped on a branch, fell on the floor.
• 9:46
  Speaker A: Tripping on a branch is insane.
• 9:48
  Speaker B: I got a hole in my pants and then I peed myself.
• 9:51
  Speaker A: And like, so I'm like, how much pee is it?
• 9:53
  Speaker B: Just, like, enough to be annoying. Like, it's just like.
• 9:56
  Speaker C: Feels like you feel wet down there or like sneezing.
• 10:00
  Speaker B: Right. Or I feel like you're wearing, like, gray pants. You can notice, like, I'm like, this is just.
• 10:05
  Speaker A: Oh, my God.
• 10:06
  Speaker B: Not necessary.
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  Speaker C: Ye.
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  Speaker B: And I was just so frustrated. And all I could find was either physical therapy, which I didn't think it was, quote, bad enough for physical therapy because everyone deals with it, and again, which is a whole nother issue, that it just becomes normalized, or there's online classes, and they're great and had its place, but I want it in person. Especially as moms, we want community. We want to connect. We're all going through it. We want to connect with others who we can vent to, cry to laugh, to just feel supported with. So that's what I created.
• 10:35
  Speaker A: Yeah. How many moms, like, when you were experience in all this and you obviously were doing your roundabouts and trying to collaborate on all this, were you finding that a lot of moms went through this?
• 10:45
  Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
• 10:45
  Speaker A: I don't think I've ever talked to anybody who, like, I feel like you don't have a lot of mom friends.
• 10:50
  Speaker C: She has no friends. No, but absolutely, it is a thing.
• 10:53
  Speaker B: Right. And even too, if it's not peeing, there's other issues where then there's prolapse or then there's painful sex or there's. Oh, yeah.
• 11:01
  Speaker C: Have we heard of.
• 11:04
  Speaker B: No.
• 11:04
  Speaker A: Yeah.
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  Speaker B: So there's so many different issues that stem under, like, pelvic floor dysfunction. For me, it was peeing my pants and I was sick of it. But there's so many others that people and women experience that, again, are just kind of brushed under this umbrella of Just normalized. Because that's, quote, just what happens after having kids.
• 11:21
  Speaker A: Yeah.
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  Speaker C: And I feel like a lot of people are just like. Someone's just like, oh, just start Kegeling. Like, okay, I'm Kegeling right now, but am I fucking getting any help?
• 11:28
  Speaker A: Right, right, right.
• 11:29
  Speaker B: What's that doing so right?
• 11:30
  Speaker A: Wait, can you, anatomy wise, tell me where the pelvic floor is? Like, are we talking, like, is it right here?
• 11:37
  Speaker B: So it's at the base of your pelvis and it's kind of like, this is my pelvis, like, a little lower. Lower. Like, right.
• 11:42
  Speaker A: So my pelvis is like right here.
• 11:43
  Speaker B: Down, down.
• 11:44
  Speaker A: It was my pelvic bone.
• 11:45
  Speaker B: Yeah.
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  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 11:45
  Speaker A: It's hard. It's my bone.
• 11:46
  Speaker C: I mean, it does everything it's involved in.
• 11:49
  Speaker B: Right, right. It's like a bowl almost, that sits on the base of your pelvis, and then it supports bladder, bowel movement, sexual function.
• 11:57
  Speaker A: I wonder. Not that I know you're not like a doctor or anything, but I have me asking her my personal question. I have interstitial societies.
• 12:06
  Speaker C: Excuse me.
• 12:06
  Speaker A: Do you know what that is? It's inflammation of the bladder.
• 12:09
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 12:10
  Speaker A: Do you think has anything to do with.
• 12:12
  Speaker B: Yes. Yeah.
• 12:13
  Speaker A: I have questions. We. I have. We'll talk after, but okay.
• 12:18
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 12:19
  Speaker A: I didn't know it was connected.
• 12:19
  Speaker B: Yeah, it's all connected. All connected. So.
• 12:21
  Speaker A: Because the bladder is connected to everything and all that.
• 12:23
  Speaker B: Right, right. And so that too, you know, with just where the bladder is positioned and the pressure that's put on the bladder when you're through pregnancy or pushing, or even when you're pooping, like you're pushing and putting pressure. And then even different exercises, if you're not managing the pressure, then you create different bulges in your stomach. And so. And just different dysfunctions happen. Or, you know, peeing too much, not peeing enough, where you have that urge of, like, I have to pee and you're crazy.
• 12:49
  Speaker A: So.
• 12:50
  Speaker B: Yeah. There are so many things I have.
• 12:51
  Speaker A: To ask, though, and I should wait till the end. But I need to know now. Does your Maya method work on you? Yes.
• 12:56
  Speaker B: Yes.
• 12:56
  Speaker A: You're cured.
• 12:58
  Speaker B: Yes. That's.
• 12:59
  Speaker C: She's never peed her pants again.
• 13:02
  Speaker A: I love it.
• 13:02
  Speaker C: So.
• 13:03
  Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, that's why I created it. I just. And again, every body is different, so there's not a one size fits all. But I just found physical therapy, again, is great and has its place and very much needed when you have, like, bigger things that you need to work on. But for the most part, a lot of us just don't start from the basics, where we're reconnecting our core back together, essentially. And we need to start with those foundational exercises to build the mind, and then that's where your core can become stronger than it ever was before because you're going deep, you're connecting, you're reconnecting all those muscles back together. You're closing the gaps, and you're focusing on your breath, which is one of the most important parts of core work, which, again, is something that's so not talked about and not incorporated, where it could be something as easy as maintaining your breath through the different exercises to help strengthen and connect to your pelvic floor.
• 13:51
  Speaker A: I mean, we took her class, what, a week and a half ago?
• 13:54
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 13:54
  Speaker A: I have to say, it was great. I mean, you're great, obviously, but I was, like, confused. It's hard to.
• 14:02
  Speaker B: The breathing is hard.
• 14:03
  Speaker A: The breathing is hard, and it's when you're trying to focus on what you're telling us to do and trying to breathe at the same time. Like, how long does it take to adapt?
• 14:09
  Speaker B: Yes. Yes. I love that you said that because it's true. The breathing is hard because we've never.
• 14:14
  Speaker C: Had that ball thing you had.
• 14:15
  Speaker A: We haven't, Remember? I was like, wait, did I bring this in the car for my son? Because I had it in my car. No joke.
• 14:20
  Speaker B: Right? I love it because the breath is so important. But again, unfortunately, we're not taught to breathe properly. And the way we are taught is a little opposite of typically what we think. But for a pelvic floor, essentially, you want to inhale to expand and open and create space and, like, heaviness and open. And then exhaling is when you're engaging and contracting. So you want to exhale, and you're on the hardest part.
• 14:44
  Speaker A: You're tightening when you're exhaling, but you don't want to because you're supposed to be.
• 14:47
  Speaker B: And you still have to. Expanding breathing. But the hardest part is to focus on the breath itself while doing the movement. And it takes a while to connect the mind, body connection.
• 14:57
  Speaker A: I mean, that's where.
• 14:58
  Speaker B: But the goal. The goal. After a couple classes, you start to build that connection, and then the goal is to automatically not do it and not to think about it.
• 15:05
  Speaker C: Do you do that, like, throughout any workout you're in?
• 15:07
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 15:07
  Speaker C: Oh, you do?
• 15:08
  Speaker A: Even when you're, like, running.
• 15:09
  Speaker B: So now I can, like, think of, like, if I'm doing just with weights or something like that, or I'm doing, like, a bicep curl or a Chest press. Like, you act. You exhale on the activation, which is the harder part. So the push or the curl up is when you're exhaling so you can engage your pelvic floor as you're doing another maxo.
• 15:25
  Speaker A: I see I'm. I'm tightening when I'm breathing in. And, like, I can't. It's very difficult.
• 15:29
  Speaker B: It's. You just have to relearn.
• 15:31
  Speaker A: And the mind. Yeah, it's like muscle memory.
• 15:32
  Speaker B: You learn to breathe and it's.
• 15:35
  Speaker C: I need to learn how to breathe and I also need to learn how to work out.
• 15:37
  Speaker B: But it's just like connecting your mind to the movement, which again, I always say in the classes, like, the pelvic floor is very. These workout classes are different because you're connecting to your body. Where other classes and fitness classes, you kind of just go there to disconnect, to de. Stress, to, like, let go.
• 15:52
  Speaker A: You're used to just right where this.
• 15:54
  Speaker B: You're, like, actually having to think. But the goal is to automatically your body just does it. And then that's the concept with, like, when you're sneezing, your body automatically just strengthens or like, you know, activates, tightens to when you sneeze, so then you don't faint. But it takes a while.
• 16:09
  Speaker A: It takes a while.
• 16:10
  Speaker B: I mean, I was like, always, like, you're exhausted mentally, Mentally, just like I.
• 16:14
  Speaker A: Think I did that whole class.
• 16:15
  Speaker C: I was overthinking everything.
• 16:16
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 16:17
  Speaker A: I wish I had a body cam on you.
• 16:18
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 16:20
  Speaker A: First workout she's ever done, and she's learning to breathe at the same time.
• 16:23
  Speaker C: Don't know how to breathe. Don't know how to work out.
• 16:25
  Speaker A: You're doing great.
• 16:26
  Speaker B: Yes.
• 16:27
  Speaker A: I mean, that's awesome. I mean, anybody who starts something from scratch, I give so much credit to because it's not easy and you're trying to teach others what to do. You know what I mean? So it's like, a lot of work.
• 16:37
  Speaker C: And I feel like with the mom community, like, people don't talk about this often about what happens to your body right after babies.
• 16:45
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, definitely.
• 16:47
  Speaker A: Totally.
• 16:47
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 16:48
  Speaker A: So again, back to, like, anatomy. What. What is the pelvic floor? Like, what is. What is the pelvic floor used for? Besides, like, I don't need. If someone asked me, like, what do you use your pelvic floor for? I don't know.
• 16:59
  Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, it definitely. It helps with stability and muscle control.
• 17:04
  Speaker A: And what are the things besides, like, peeing your pants? Like, does it control? Like, if I had loss of my.
• 17:08
  Speaker B: Pelvic floor, literally, like, everything, like, stability, body control, posture, strengthening.
• 17:14
  Speaker A: Yeah, like your pelvic is attached to your.
• 17:16
  Speaker B: Yeah, you need it.
• 17:17
  Speaker A: Looking at a dead body, I would see the pelvic floor bones. If, you know, pelvic floor, they can't sit up.
• 17:22
  Speaker C: Orgasms. Oh, really?
• 17:23
  Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah, that or you look that up.
• 17:27
  Speaker C: No, I knew that.
• 17:28
  Speaker A: Wait, so the pelvic floor controls you having an orgasm or not?
• 17:31
  Speaker B: Well, it just helps with the sensation, essentially. I mean, if you have a healthy pelvic floor where it's. Think of your pelvic floor kind of like a trampoline, like, you want it to. To do a dance almost. Where like, if you're breathing and expanding, it's coming, lowering down. And then as you're exhaling and engaging, it's coming up.
• 17:47
  Speaker A: And so your.
• 17:48
  Speaker B: Your pelvic floor is moving. It's not stuck in one position. And even, for example, like, your bicep, it's a muscle. Your pelvic floor is a muscle. You don't want to contract it the whole time. You don't want to just walk around with your arms curled up and like, your pelvic floor constantly being contracted. So you need. And then for, like, orgasms, you know, you need a healthy pelvic floor that can be flexible and then tight at the same time. Or you know how bad people have.
• 18:10
  Speaker A: Trouble having an orgasm. That could be the reason.
• 18:12
  Speaker B: It could. It just can help. And then two, like, painful sex can be, you know, then prevent, prohibit.
• 18:18
  Speaker A: Then you're not having an orgasm.
• 18:19
  Speaker B: Right. Because you're so worried about the pain, you can't even think about anything else.
• 18:22
  Speaker C: So healthy.
• 18:24
  Speaker A: How much school did you have to go to?
• 18:26
  Speaker B: I mean, I just was so. I was like a sponge and I.
• 18:29
  Speaker A: Did you take online classes? Like, did you go back to school?
• 18:31
  Speaker B: I did a certification just last year because, I mean, I've had all the fitness certifications because I've been in the fitness industry for years. And then I just really got into this pelvic floor thing. Just extra. Yeah. So then I just did an online certification at home literally last year. And I just. I. Then I absorbed. I was so interested. And then I was baffled where I was like, wait, this is me, this is me. Why wasn't I told this?
• 18:54
  Speaker A: When it relates to you, it's so.
• 18:56
  Speaker B: Much easier to study. And I was just absorbed in, like, took. It was a sponge, everything. And then now I'm just. And even too, like, with the medical advisors, I'll ask them all the questions, and I'm just so interested. That's awesome because I never knew about it.
• 19:07
  Speaker A: I think people would love to hear that you advise medical like personnel because. Not that I don't believe you, because I do, but it's, it's easier to be validated when you have someone else.
• 19:19
  Speaker B: And for myself, I have the fitness background, but I just wanted that extra yourself. Personally, I'm not a medical professional. I'm not going to say that I am where I want a medical professional civility and say like, yes, this is safe. And my biggest thing is too, I don't want to hurt anybody. You know, I don't want.
• 19:34
  Speaker A: You were doing this the right way.
• 19:35
  Speaker C: Right.
• 19:35
  Speaker B: We're dealing with sensitive areas. I want to make sure that what I'm doing is effective and safe and correct.
• 19:41
  Speaker C: Yeah, totally.
• 19:42
  Speaker A: I love it. Have you had any moms, like, come up to me and be like, you helped me a lot?
• 19:45
  Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I just, we just started the classes, literally. Yeah. The summer. But even so, like the women who have been coming for the pop up classes and then coming now that we have the weekly classes just opened up in. Yeah, but they, they've just definitely been noticing a differ. And then they even notice, like the classes are easier and harder at the same time where somebody said, who's been coming for a while? Like, why does today feel so much harder? And it's because now her. She can go deeper with the exercises because she's not constantly thinking about. Yeah, the. The breath and the connection. Her body's working even harder because now she has better form. She's going deeper and feeling it more.
• 20:18
  Speaker A: Right, right, right.
• 20:19
  Speaker B: So. Yeah.
• 20:19
  Speaker A: So were you like peeing your pants at all?
• 20:22
  Speaker C: No, I didn't really have the peeing the pants.
• 20:23
  Speaker B: Just me.
• 20:25
  Speaker A: It's just sitting there. But what, what did you have, Honestly?
• 20:28
  Speaker C: Queefing, like during. I have never queefed a lot during.
• 20:32
  Speaker A: Is that from the pelvis floor?
• 20:34
  Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Maybe. Or I just say like, why are you filling me up with air?
• 20:42
  Speaker A: No, literally though, I had no idea. Maybe it's all connected. Yeah.
• 20:45
  Speaker C: I mean, but that's something. Before kids, after kids. It's just like.
• 20:49
  Speaker A: Yeah, you're like, what's happening down there? I can't. No, I can't with you.
• 20:54
  Speaker C: Wait, I smell a game. I got a game.
• 20:56
  Speaker A: Okay. Is usually a game. Okay, let's. Let's play game. I feel like it'll like break the ice a little.
• 21:00
  Speaker C: All right. This game is called orgasm or exercise.
• 21:03
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 21:03
  Speaker A: Wait, am I involved in this? Or you're gonna. Like, you're orchestrating it.
• 21:08
  Speaker C: No, you're involved, I think. No, you're not. You're not involved.
• 21:12
  Speaker A: I'm involved. Okay.
• 21:13
  Speaker C: No, I'm good. All right, all right.
• 21:16
  Speaker A: Starting with a game.
• 21:17
  Speaker C: All right. I smell a game.
• 21:18
  Speaker A: You're sniffing out a game.
• 21:19
  Speaker C: Sniffing out a game. Okay, Danielle, since you're basically the queen of cores and floors, we're going to play a little game called orgasm or exercise. We'll name an activity, and you tell us which one actually engages the pelvic floor more. Or getting busy is just for fun.
• 21:35
  Speaker B: Okay, got it. Let's do it.
• 21:36
  Speaker C: Okay. Jumping jacks versus missionary.
• 21:40
  Speaker B: I would say jumping jacks because it's more. Yeah. Active. Engaging.
• 21:44
  Speaker C: Okay.
• 21:45
  Speaker A: Then sex.
• 21:47
  Speaker C: All right. What about doing an actual squat or having an orgasm?
• 21:54
  Speaker B: I'd say having an orgasm.
• 21:56
  Speaker A: Wait, explain why.
• 21:57
  Speaker C: Because your pelvic floor is being in use more than.
• 22:00
  Speaker A: Than no squat.
• 22:02
  Speaker B: I would think so. I mean, I feel like it's all pelvic floors.
• 22:05
  Speaker A: We're gonna be having sex, but breathing the wrong ways.
• 22:11
  Speaker B: I'm gonna start getting, like, testimonials outside. Of course.
• 22:15
  Speaker A: So I'm having sex with my husband or.
• 22:18
  Speaker B: Questions?
• 22:18
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 22:19
  Speaker C: All right. Deep breathing. Versed. Kegels.
• 22:23
  Speaker B: I have both. They're both activating different areas where deep breathing is, like, building that connection. But Kegels is strengthening the pelvic floor.
• 22:30
  Speaker C: Okay, good answer. All right. Planks versus reverse cowgirl.
• 22:35
  Speaker A: Planks versus. I don't even know how you would activate your pelvic floor. The plank.
• 22:40
  Speaker C: I don't know.
• 22:42
  Speaker B: Pelvic floor, you definitely do activate in the plank. Not everyone. It's not suitable for everyone because. Especially if you have, like, bulging or diastasis reci, where you have, like, a bowl in your stomach, you put more pressure on your belly area when you're in that plank position. So I guess depending who you are.
• 22:59
  Speaker C: Maybe reverse cow gone training. I like it. All right. Laughing till you pee or sneezing?
• 23:09
  Speaker B: Sneezing. Because you have to. I think both. Both. They both activate the same muscles. Sneezing's just quicker. Like it's an instant.
• 23:15
  Speaker A: Sneezing is quicker.
• 23:16
  Speaker C: Don't they say sneezing is, like eighth of an orgasm?
• 23:18
  Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 23:19
  Speaker C: Hold on, Let me see. All right, Good game. Good game.
• 23:24
  Speaker A: That was good. I like that one.
• 23:26
  Speaker C: All right.
• 23:27
  Speaker A: I don't know why it was so hard for me to grasp thunders.
• 23:29
  Speaker B: No, I got.
• 23:29
  Speaker C: Sometimes I don't explain things. Good. I have more games, but let's keep talking.
• 23:33
  Speaker A: Okay, let's Keep talking. What do you want to talk about? What should we talk about? Honestly.
• 23:44
  Speaker C: I want to talk about, like, so before you were a mom, your core, I'm sure you were ripped like you were a cheerleader.
• 23:53
  Speaker A: Like, what was your body? Not, not that your body's amazing, but I'm saying, like, what were you? Your pre kid body.
• 23:58
  Speaker B: Yeah. Well, I feel like it went through different phases because especially with like cheering, I was so restrictive with what I was eating and like over exercising to now, when I look back at pictures, I was like, not in the healthiest form by any means because I was like, so restricted.
• 24:14
  Speaker C: Isn't it funny when you look back.
• 24:15
  Speaker A: At pictures, you're like, I'm so fat.
• 24:17
  Speaker C: Or like, I thought I was that.
• 24:18
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I. The mind plays so many games on you. So I feel like I went through so many evolutions of like, health or fitness. And I always. I used to work out to kind of out of guilt or like, oh, I have to work out today. Or like, especially during cheering, I had to look a certain way in my uniform. And that just really took a toll on me for a while. Actually, it was not until having kids because I was always pretty restrictive. I wasn't good anymore. But having kids, when you're pregnant, your body's changing. You're. You can't control it.
• 24:48
  Speaker A: And so that was really basically eating for two.
• 24:50
  Speaker B: Yeah. And yeah, I was like craving things I was never used to eating. I would eat more salads and fruits. And then when I was pregnant, I was like, I want nothing to do with this.
• 24:57
  Speaker A: Yeah, I know.
• 24:58
  Speaker B: And then my body was changing and it was the first time I literally couldn't like, restrict food and then change it. And, you know, it's just getting bigger. That took a lot out of me.
• 25:07
  Speaker A: I was like.
• 25:07
  Speaker B: So that took a lot out of me.
• 25:09
  Speaker C: People with bad eating disorders, it's really.
• 25:11
  Speaker B: Hard to be pregnant. It was really hard. But that also helped me. And now looking back, you know, evolution and exercise, it's changed a lot from pre kids to now after kids, which actually is a lot better now. But it was always a piece of who I was.
• 25:27
  Speaker C: And I feel like now you're probably really in tune with your body so you just understand it more.
• 25:32
  Speaker B: Right. And then even now too, like, I was just doing. It's called like surface level exercises or, you know, wanting to like, do crunches to get a six pack. But actually if you go deeper, you have a stronger core. And then that stronger core leaves the foundation so that you see results Faster in other areas, right? Yeah.
• 25:47
  Speaker A: I never had a six pack.
• 25:49
  Speaker C: Me neither. But I would starve myself until I saw those sex bones.
• 25:54
  Speaker A: Honestly, like, I never. It's so funny. Like, I feel like as I got older, I shedded more weight. And I know it doesn't make any sense. I danced growing up, but I was always bulkier and big. Eating less, though. Well, now I eat more and I'm skinnier than I was when I was, like, very active.
• 26:12
  Speaker B: But your body goes into starvation mode, so if you eat just a little bit, it's going to hold on to everything. I don't know.
• 26:18
  Speaker A: It was always a thing. I never believed it.
• 26:19
  Speaker B: But, yeah, I don't know. The next time I'm getting food. So then your metabolism slows down. And then now I feel like I.
• 26:24
  Speaker A: Have such a quick metabolism.
• 26:25
  Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, your body's crazy. It does so many things.
• 26:28
  Speaker A: You should just eat. We know.
• 26:31
  Speaker C: Food sucks.
• 26:32
  Speaker A: Yeah, it literally sucks. Sin. No, that's awesome. And I feel like, I don't know, everybody struggles, but you look, as you get older, you just learn more about your body. I feel like I'm so in tune with my body now. And I mean, even for you, I feel like you read so much on.
• 26:47
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 26:48
  Speaker A: I feel like you're looking through me. Like, you could see, like, the inside of my body floor.
• 26:51
  Speaker B: She's.
• 26:51
  Speaker A: She's like, you can see my pelvic floor moving right now.
• 26:54
  Speaker C: Honestly, during her class, all I was thinking about is, like, this girl has a really tight vagina.
• 26:58
  Speaker A: She was like, what were you saying? You're like, pick up a blueberry vagina.
• 27:02
  Speaker C: Can you give us that?
• 27:05
  Speaker B: So essentially, one of the best cues is a visual cue where you're inhaling to expand and then you feel the expansion in. Like, if you put one hand on your rib and one hand and you feel the inhale and you feel the expansion. The activation is when again, you're. You're doing the harder part of the exercise. You want to activate to engage your core first. And the. The cue itself is visualize that you're picking up a blueberry with. With your vagina muscles. And you're. You're bringing it up, like, inside of my vagina. Yeah. So you're like, using your vagina, like, around the blueberry and picking it up and drawing it in and up. So it's not just like sucking your belly in, it's activating your pelvic floor to, like, pick up the blueberries.
• 27:41
  Speaker A: Did you make that up or you saw?
• 27:42
  Speaker B: No, that's That's a cue.
• 27:43
  Speaker A: That's like a thing.
• 27:44
  Speaker B: That's a thing.
• 27:44
  Speaker C: I wish you made that up actually in Thailand, you know Thailand?
• 27:48
  Speaker B: No.
• 27:48
  Speaker C: They pick up ping pong balls and it's like a show. And they spit out ping pong balls out of their vajra.
• 27:53
  Speaker A: Are their pelvic floors insanely active?
• 27:55
  Speaker B: That's a whole nother kind of workout.
• 27:58
  Speaker A: I can imagine, like getting that low to the ground and having my vagina like able to pick up something.
• 28:05
  Speaker C: No, that's crazy.
• 28:05
  Speaker B: Interesting.
• 28:06
  Speaker A: Pelvic floor activated.
• 28:07
  Speaker B: Activated.
• 28:09
  Speaker A: No, that's like so great. No, would you. And when you were saying that though, I was really trying really hard to do that. It's a good visual. Blueberry would get lost in. No.
• 28:18
  Speaker C: When you're so tight. What do you mean?
• 28:21
  Speaker A: No? I'm so serious. It's like so crazy. Think about what a good. So that was like in the textbooks you were reading?
• 28:26
  Speaker B: Yeah, that one was another good one that I personally like. The visual is like a carnival claw. So like kind of picture your like carnival claws, like coming down as the inhale, you're. And then it's opening the carnival claw. And that's like where you inhale and expand and then it's closing, grabbing around the stuffed animal. And that's your pelvic floor tightening. And then the activated.
• 28:43
  Speaker A: I like that better, that visual.
• 28:45
  Speaker B: And that's what they always say. Like give a hundred different types of cues because everybody picks up one that's different. Like you're like, oh, the blueberry.
• 28:51
  Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
• 28:51
  Speaker B: You know, you never forget that though. Works for everybody.
• 28:54
  Speaker A: I'm so curious to see, like after this episode drops, how many moms deal with this because I feel like somebody will reach out and they're like, oh, my God, I have been dealing with this forever.
• 29:03
  Speaker C: Yeah. No, and if there are moms that reach out, that you have a. You have a studio that you're in.
• 29:07
  Speaker B: Yeah. So I teach weekly classes in Westfield, N.J. monday and Thursdays that we're doing now. And then we'll expand it out. But yeah, it's for exactly that. And then again, so many people just don't talk about it because they just normalize it where it's just like, oh, it's common. My friend has it. My sister has this.
• 29:22
  Speaker A: It just happens after birth.
• 29:23
  Speaker B: Yeah, it's just a thing. And then it's not like, do people.
• 29:26
  Speaker A: Have a pre birth. Sorry, not to interrupt.
• 29:27
  Speaker B: Some people do, but it's definitely more common after birth just because again, pregnancy, labor even, you know, you put so much pressure on your pelvic floor during that life stage that it. It changes it.
• 29:38
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 29:39
  Speaker C: Do you. Is like your vision, your goal, like, to be like my method in like, California? Yeah. Like, what's your, like, soul cycle? Like, it's like a, like a thing.
• 29:48
  Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. So I built another fitness business called Cheer Fit, and that was a cheer inspired group fitness class. And so I feel like I've like, seen. Yeah. So that grew really quickly. And that model was. I would certify other instructors through, like licensing and then would teach the classes wherever they were. So I had instructors literally around the world who came to me. They got certified, and now they had the license to teach the method. You do.
• 30:12
  Speaker C: She's cool.
• 30:12
  Speaker A: You do a lot. Wait, how do you get a certified to certify somebody? Well, it's like a certification. Yes.
• 30:18
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you. That. And this is what I'll do with my method. I'll create a certification so I could.
• 30:24
  Speaker A: Come to you and so I could teach the. My method.
• 30:26
  Speaker B: So either I'll teach other instructors to teach the method and then they take that method.
• 30:30
  Speaker A: What a good way to grow your business.
• 30:32
  Speaker B: Yeah. So then either I'll franchise it and have studios that teach and own or do it the licensing model where then they just pay me to get certified and then they could teach it that method wherever they are.
• 30:42
  Speaker A: Wow.
• 30:43
  Speaker C: So this is how things happen.
• 30:44
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 30:44
  Speaker C: Chicks like her.
• 30:45
  Speaker A: Yeah. Seriously, this is why the world is growing. I love it though.
• 30:49
  Speaker B: And I, I just. Yeah. If I have an idea again, like I said in the beginning, I can go from A to Z, which is a good and a bad thing at the same time. Like, I'm just full force ahead. But for this I just. It feels so different because there truly is such a need that it's, It's.
• 31:03
  Speaker A: You seem like you love it though.
• 31:04
  Speaker B: Yeah, I truly love it. And then when I'm passionate about something and it fills a need, then it's just escalates me that much more.
• 31:12
  Speaker A: Yeah, totally. I mean, so interesting.
• 31:15
  Speaker B: And I love, I love, like, I went to school for entrepreneurship. I just, I love building businesses and creating strategy and like, this all kind of falls in love.
• 31:22
  Speaker A: Does your husband help with all this or is he like, what is going on with my wife?
• 31:26
  Speaker B: She's like, opposite, where I'm like, entrepreneurial and like, like creative and bigger picture and all the things. And he's like accounting, which is like logistics, black and white. So he gets it. He likes the idea, but he's just like, I don't Understand, like, yeah.
• 31:42
  Speaker C: Where?
• 31:42
  Speaker B: He's just so logical.
• 31:43
  Speaker A: Yeah. It's like, this doesn't make sense for a Monday after a movie.
• 31:47
  Speaker C: Exactly.
• 31:48
  Speaker B: And he's like, well, how much did you get paid? Good relationship.
• 31:52
  Speaker A: We're making zero dollars.
• 31:53
  Speaker B: Right, Right. But, like, it. The bigger picture, like, in two years it'll be huge. And he's like, I don't get it. Where's the money?
• 31:58
  Speaker A: Yeah, show me the money. It's so true, though. You're like, they might not understand till the money comes. And then they start to click.
• 32:05
  Speaker B: I get it.
• 32:05
  Speaker C: I get it.
• 32:06
  Speaker A: That's where we're at right now.
• 32:08
  Speaker C: So Joey's like, so how much money you make this month?
• 32:10
  Speaker A: $6.
• 32:11
  Speaker C: Don't fucking ask.
• 32:12
  Speaker A: Yeah, $6 to my. I mean, listen, it's all worth it. This is going to be good for both parties.
• 32:17
  Speaker B: Yes. I love it.
• 32:19
  Speaker A: Want to play another game?
• 32:20
  Speaker C: Yeah, sure.
• 32:21
  Speaker A: All right, which one? We love games.
• 32:24
  Speaker C: Workout move or Sex position?
• 32:26
  Speaker B: All right, Danielle, so you name something and I have to say what it is.
• 32:29
  Speaker C: I will tell you.
• 32:30
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 32:33
  Speaker C: All right. You spend your days tightening cores, but we need to know how loose your mind is.
• 32:38
  Speaker A: Okay, it's time for a little game. We call it the Workout move or the Sex position.
• 32:42
  Speaker C: We're going to say a name.
• 32:45
  Speaker A: Don't be nervous.
• 32:47
  Speaker C: We're going to say a name. You tell us. Is that something you'd cue in a Maya Method class or you'd whisper on vacation with your.
• 32:55
  Speaker A: This is gonna. You're gonna understand when we give you it. Okay, let's do a little warm up one.
• 32:58
  Speaker C: Okay, go ahead.
• 32:59
  Speaker A: Name them then.
• 33:00
  Speaker B: Happy Baby Workout.
• 33:03
  Speaker A: Yeah, we did. We did that. You know, a lot of workout classes. Do the Happy Baby when I do Pilates. Happy babies.
• 33:08
  Speaker B: I know because it stretches the hip flexors, which I didn't do that when.
• 33:12
  Speaker A: I gave birth, though. I did.
• 33:16
  Speaker C: Yeah, you did.
• 33:16
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 33:17
  Speaker C: You had your. Your things on the stirrup.
• 33:18
  Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
• 33:19
  Speaker B: That is my happy baby.
• 33:23
  Speaker C: I hate those things. I hate when you go into the gyno. You're like, here I go.
• 33:27
  Speaker A: When I was in the Guy. I hate. I'm going on Friday to the guy now.
• 33:29
  Speaker C: I read Years since my kids.
• 33:33
  Speaker B: I was just talking about this. If you go for, like, an annual appointment, you have to book a year out. I mean.
• 33:37
  Speaker A: Yeah, I booked a year ago.
• 33:39
  Speaker B: Crazy.
• 33:40
  Speaker C: And isn't it so crazy how, like, you go so much when you're pregnant and then, like, it just stops? Like, I don't care about you anymore.
• 33:46
  Speaker B: But.
• 33:46
  Speaker C: But, like, what about me?
• 33:47
  Speaker A: You have to Go to the diner to get checked. Checked.
• 33:49
  Speaker C: All right, I'll go get checked.
• 33:50
  Speaker A: It's not about your vagina. There could be like. You know what? Just go get checked.
• 33:55
  Speaker C: All right.
• 33:56
  Speaker A: Okay. The bridge. What's the bridge?
• 33:58
  Speaker B: Bridge is an exercise.
• 33:59
  Speaker A: Oh, well, we were doing the right.
• 34:00
  Speaker B: The, like, hip bridges.
• 34:02
  Speaker A: I was sore after, by the way.
• 34:03
  Speaker B: I went to ask, how were you guys?
• 34:05
  Speaker A: I was definitely sure I was more sore. Oh, you were sore? Yeah, my arms were sore.
• 34:09
  Speaker C: I didn't tell you I was sore because I didn't want you to make fun of me.
• 34:13
  Speaker A: Wait, the cat cow. If you're doing cat cow correctly. It's kind of both now.
• 34:18
  Speaker B: Oh, I guess so. Yeah. I mean, cat cow is definitely exercise. Is that.
• 34:21
  Speaker A: Wait, show me cow. Cat. What's cat cow again?
• 34:23
  Speaker B: Like when you're, like, on all fours and then you round your back and then you arch your back.
• 34:27
  Speaker A: Oh, yeah. When you're actually doing the movement. But yeah, I kind of.
• 34:31
  Speaker C: I mean, I could do.
• 34:31
  Speaker B: This could be. Boy from behind.
• 34:34
  Speaker A: Okay. Fire hydrant.
• 34:37
  Speaker B: That's exercise.
• 34:38
  Speaker A: Oh, yeah, we were doing that.
• 34:40
  Speaker B: That right. On all four.
• 34:41
  Speaker A: So that exercise is hard for me.
• 34:44
  Speaker B: Yes. And then it works like. And then you bring your legs out to the side and then back in.
• 34:47
  Speaker A: That one's hard for me.
• 34:48
  Speaker C: Me.
• 34:49
  Speaker A: Wait, that's literally foreplay for you. Like, potty training, for sure. Or potty training your toddlers. Yes, that's.
• 34:57
  Speaker C: All right.
• 34:58
  Speaker A: Round two.
• 34:59
  Speaker C: The corkscrew.
• 35:00
  Speaker B: That's exercise.
• 35:02
  Speaker C: Know that one?
• 35:03
  Speaker A: No.
• 35:03
  Speaker C: Me neither, I guess.
• 35:05
  Speaker B: What's the Corkscrew in Pilates? If you, like, are. Are on your back, and then you bring your legs up and then you, like, twist side to side.
• 35:12
  Speaker C: That sounds more like Kama Sutra to me.
• 35:14
  Speaker A: It could be both.
• 35:15
  Speaker B: I think all these could probably be both.
• 35:17
  Speaker A: Okay. The pretzel. Honestly, it describes my. Every morning I'm getting out of bed, I feel like that's exercise.
• 35:23
  Speaker B: Yeah. I mean.
• 35:23
  Speaker A: Or not really, because, like, stretch them.
• 35:25
  Speaker B: Like this pretzel, I think, is when we have a stretch. Yeah, like the pretzels.
• 35:30
  Speaker A: Not me twisting my body in half, not knowing what I'm talking about. Okay. Butterfly, stretch. Lotus.
• 35:37
  Speaker C: Lotus.
• 35:37
  Speaker A: It's a lotus.
• 35:38
  Speaker B: I don't know.
• 35:39
  Speaker C: The lotus.
• 35:40
  Speaker A: The plow.
• 35:41
  Speaker B: That sounds like a sex position.
• 35:44
  Speaker C: There are sex positions in.
• 35:46
  Speaker A: So lotus is definitely sex position.
• 35:47
  Speaker C: The Asian helicopter.
• 35:49
  Speaker A: We have got one.
• 35:52
  Speaker C: No, just one that I made up.
• 35:53
  Speaker A: Oh, God, I can't. Okay, final, final one. Final one.
• 35:56
  Speaker C: All right. The pelvic tornado.
• 36:00
  Speaker A: What's that? Is that a real one?
• 36:02
  Speaker B: I don't Know that doesn't put like.
• 36:03
  Speaker A: The answers to this on here.
• 36:04
  Speaker C: I don't know. It's open.
• 36:06
  Speaker A: I don't know if I'm talking exercise or sex.
• 36:08
  Speaker B: I think that's gonna be a sex move. I don't know.
• 36:10
  Speaker C: Part of the game.
• 36:10
  Speaker B: Opens in September. Team.
• 36:12
  Speaker A: Okay, okay, okay. Fair. Reverse cowgirl we talked about. Obviously. Sex position. The happy spot.
• 36:18
  Speaker B: I'd be spine.
• 36:20
  Speaker C: What's that? Oh, no. Sounds like you should try it. Yo, go chat GBT that one right now.
• 36:28
  Speaker A: Forbidden stretch.
• 36:30
  Speaker C: Forbidden.
• 36:31
  Speaker B: That sounds.
• 36:32
  Speaker A: Cheetah came up with this game. She has no idea what any of these are. For all we know, they're all sex positions.
• 36:38
  Speaker C: To say if it's sex position or. So you're saying sex position.
• 36:41
  Speaker B: Sex position.
• 36:41
  Speaker A: I'm saying sex position.
• 36:42
  Speaker B: For that.
• 36:43
  Speaker C: You guys should get a sex position book.
• 36:46
  Speaker A: You should too. You should too. Okay. That was fun.
• 36:53
  Speaker C: All right, I got another one.
• 36:55
  Speaker A: Another game?
• 36:55
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 36:56
  Speaker A: Oh, I like games.
• 36:57
  Speaker C: Rapid fire. The core truth.
• 36:58
  Speaker A: You love rapid fire.
• 37:00
  Speaker C: I love rapid fire.
• 37:02
  Speaker B: Stress me out too.
• 37:03
  Speaker C: Short and spicy.
• 37:04
  Speaker A: Okay, go.
• 37:04
  Speaker C: Okay. What's one move every mom should stop doing immediately that would harm the pelvic floor? Yeah.
• 37:10
  Speaker A: Okay, go. I like this question.
• 37:11
  Speaker B: Running too soon?
• 37:13
  Speaker C: Oh.
• 37:13
  Speaker B: Oh, you can definitely run, but you have to. You can't just go from, you know, running right after that. You're. Yeah, that's the thing that's most annoying. You go to your six week appointment where they check you and it's the follow up, clear. And they give you the clearing. They're like, you're good to go. And then you think you are. And then you go do all the things that you used to do. And you're like, something's off. Either you don't. Something hurts. You feel heaviness, you're peeing. You feel like a strain.
• 37:35
  Speaker A: And it becomes worse.
• 37:36
  Speaker B: And then it becomes worse.
• 37:37
  Speaker C: Because how many people do you think lie to their husband that say that they're ready for sex?
• 37:41
  Speaker A: Right. Not ready.
• 37:42
  Speaker C: The doctor said they are not clear.
• 37:44
  Speaker A: After a lot, probably.
• 37:46
  Speaker B: Well, I feel like, yeah. Six weeks, it's. It's a pattern.
• 37:48
  Speaker A: It's nothing.
• 37:49
  Speaker B: I don't know.
• 37:50
  Speaker C: I feel like it's pretty quick.
• 37:51
  Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
• 37:52
  Speaker C: I also feel like with maybe my third. I did it, like way sooner than six weeks.
• 37:56
  Speaker A: You definitely did.
• 37:57
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 37:57
  Speaker A: I mean, I was gonna say definitely.
• 37:59
  Speaker C: I mean, raffle flew out of me. Like, it was like I sneezed.
• 38:02
  Speaker B: I sneezed.
• 38:05
  Speaker A: Literally. Pelvic floor was wide open. Okay, keep going. Rapid fire.
• 38:10
  Speaker C: All right. One myth about post baby bodies that you want to kill forever.
• 38:14
  Speaker B: That people have just the bounce back that you know. And I think it's become a thing now that you can. People know enough to know that you can't quite bounce back, but it's still a thing. You still just want to get back to where you used to be. And it literally takes, I think it's almost like three to five years for your body to, like, recover.
• 38:32
  Speaker A: I have an unpopular opinion.
• 38:34
  Speaker C: What?
• 38:34
  Speaker A: My body's way better after kids.
• 38:36
  Speaker C: Okay.
• 38:37
  Speaker A: You should die. Unpopular opinion.
• 38:48
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 38:49
  Speaker B: I mean, I feel like.
• 38:49
  Speaker A: I feel that way.
• 38:50
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 38:51
  Speaker B: And I think a lot of women, though, get, like, more confident after having kids. I just had kids. I can do anything. Yeah. Yeah.
• 38:58
  Speaker A: Maybe that's it.
• 38:59
  Speaker C: I have said that I've had better sex in my life after kids. I don't know if that has anything to do with my pelvic floor, but.
• 39:06
  Speaker A: But it's a life thing.
• 39:07
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 39:07
  Speaker B: Okay. Yeah.
• 39:08
  Speaker A: All right, Keep going.
• 39:08
  Speaker C: All right. Can sex actually help your pelvic floor?
• 39:12
  Speaker A: Oh, good question.
• 39:13
  Speaker B: I think yes. If it's. It depends. I think so many of these are dependent on yourself. Everyone's so different.
• 39:20
  Speaker C: Where.
• 39:21
  Speaker B: If you're experiencing pain, obviously it's not going to until you fix the dysfunctions that would be better.
• 39:25
  Speaker A: When your pelvic floor.
• 39:27
  Speaker B: If you have a better pelvic floor, you'll have better sex.
• 39:29
  Speaker C: Okay, nice.
• 39:30
  Speaker A: I like that.
• 39:31
  Speaker C: If you could rename the pelvic floor, what would you call it?
• 39:34
  Speaker A: Oh, I like that.
• 39:36
  Speaker B: Oh, I don't know. It's rapid fire, but, yeah.
• 39:44
  Speaker C: I like that.
• 39:45
  Speaker A: The Maya.
• 39:46
  Speaker B: You're not never gonna look at your daughter in the scene.
• 39:47
  Speaker A: No, I know. Carla's in the Big Faggot.
• 39:50
  Speaker C: No, not my daughter. Oh, my daughter.
• 39:51
  Speaker A: Carly's daughter. That's so.
• 39:53
  Speaker C: It is a beautiful name.
• 39:54
  Speaker A: It is a beautiful name. Okay. Love that. Wow. There's so many things you just don't know because we don't think about this.
• 40:01
  Speaker B: I know. It's crazy.
• 40:02
  Speaker A: Is there, like, one. One thing that you would, like, want everybody to know that you feel, like, is misunderstood?
• 40:10
  Speaker B: Yes. I mean, I think the whole concept or conversation with women's health is so misunderstood. And there's so much that's a black hole. And, like, this just gets me so frustrated because there's so many.
• 40:21
  Speaker A: Because people are just like, ah, right.
• 40:23
  Speaker B: It's just, like, fine.
• 40:24
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 40:24
  Speaker B: And so many women just deal with things and they don't realize how severe these different issues are. Even having a kid, like, you push a baby out or you have a C section, but and you don't get anything that was barbaric like I was.
• 40:35
  Speaker A: You don't get any barbarian getting my organs.
• 40:38
  Speaker B: But then like you get. Sprain your ankle, you tear your acl, you're in physical therapy for a year, you're doing all these things. I just, I find it so wild where the conversation is happening more, but it needs to happen so much more where women's health needs to be at the forefront and people just, you know, even. Yeah. I think the rehab process after having a kid needs to be a process and an actual thing instead of just like, hey, you're gonna be one day.
• 41:02
  Speaker A: Gonna be a requirement. Like, can't leave the hospital until we do the Maya method. I love that.
• 41:06
  Speaker B: Yes. Mike Jo. I want to like partner with OVS and say like, here's your six week plan for after the six weeks.
• 41:12
  Speaker A: And you're awesome.
• 41:13
  Speaker B: You're beyond six weeks.
• 41:14
  Speaker C: Actually, that's a really smart idea because I mean, I mean I personally, I did absolutely nothing to prepare going after your post and now here I am, just a flopper.
• 41:27
  Speaker A: Now you flopping around. I'm so disturbed.
• 41:28
  Speaker C: No, but I actually saw this really funny thing that you like, we went through labor and I saw this meme. It was like a mom sitting back and the husband at the playground. She's like, I did labor, he could do the playground. Yeah, we did so much.
• 41:42
  Speaker A: I don't think anything of it. Do you think anything of it? I had my full intestines taken out in a barbaric manner.
• 41:47
  Speaker B: It's crazy. And even guys who get a vasectomy, they're given all the pain meds and all the things we have. What?
• 41:53
  Speaker A: Nothing.
• 41:53
  Speaker B: Nothing. It drives me crazy. It's wild. So, yeah, that I feel like I love that. A bigger thing. And then.
• 41:59
  Speaker A: Yeah, you heard it here first. Mom o'.
• 42:03
  Speaker B: Clock.
• 42:04
  Speaker A: Yeah, we didn't even say that. That it's Mama Clark. It's Dom and Emily, your favorite girlies.
• 42:08
  Speaker C: Do you want to start over?
• 42:10
  Speaker A: Please Wait. I did have one more question though. What is like the biggest Different. Different. Differentiator. Okay, from maybe we talked about it and touched it in the beginning, but from like Maya Method, what makes it so different? What makes it so different?
• 42:25
  Speaker C: Yes.
• 42:25
  Speaker B: Ooh, good question. So it's basically bridging the gap between physical therapy and online fitness with an in person workout class where it's a total body workout. So you still get a total body workout. You work upper, lower, all the things. But then at the same time, it's the first of its kind that's truly connecting because of the breath, which again is really hard at the same time, but you're connecting to your pelvic floor. So most things are either physical therapy, which is more of the rehab stage and again is needed for so many women, but that's more of a rehab process. This is a, A group fitness class. Yeah.
• 42:58
  Speaker C: Which I love that you said that because like it is so hard to carve out out 45 minutes of your time as a mom.
• 43:03
  Speaker B: Right. And that's.
• 43:04
  Speaker C: And like you still like, if I were, I. I'm not a workout person, but like, if I were, I want to feel something connect.
• 43:11
  Speaker B: And that's why, you know, as moms, we are so busy. So we only have 45 minutes, essentially 60 minutes max to ourselves. Where I didn't want to just be breathing the whole time. I wanted to work out and I like working out.
• 43:23
  Speaker A: I was incorporating.
• 43:25
  Speaker B: So that's. I wanted both. And I could not find for the life of me a workout that did both. And it was either physical therapy and even now I work with physical therap because they're like, I need somewhere to give my clients after they're done with physical therapy because they're not in physical therapy forever. It's that, you know, next step and then it's. It's still a workout where I wanted, I wanted to move, I wanted to work out. I only had an hour to do something I didn't want to. Just rehab. Which again, we all need. But realistically we are.
• 43:52
  Speaker A: It's like after a while, like how many times have you stopped PT mid.
• 43:56
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 43:57
  Speaker B: I have no even. I did physical therapy because I wanted to see what it was like after, you know, doing.
• 44:01
  Speaker A: Oh, you did my method.
• 44:02
  Speaker B: But then I didn't do the at home exercises and I'm in fitness and it just goes to show me like nobody really does the things at home. You need an in person group.
• 44:10
  Speaker A: Totally. I absolutely agree.
• 44:12
  Speaker C: It is true. Like I have the mirror, that workout thing. I have it in my basement sitting there collecting dust. Like just being in the community and like that. No, I use it sometimes.
• 44:22
  Speaker A: So annoying.
• 44:24
  Speaker C: My kids, My kids will Windex it sometimes. But yeah, no, it's nice to like feel the community and also just being with other moms because that's. That's what.
• 44:32
  Speaker B: Right. And it's. Yeah. Just building that community based. And then even now for the members, we have like a WhatsApp group just to ask the questions and ask the things and connect to the other medical advisors and just feel Supported and connected, which I think that's also half of it. Where workout. You feel that connection. Or like in a group fitness class.
• 44:48
  Speaker A: You feel like to somebody.
• 44:50
  Speaker B: Yeah. And especially moms who, like, we're all going through it. You can relate and.
• 44:54
  Speaker A: Hey, did you pee your pants today?
• 44:55
  Speaker B: Right, right, right.
• 44:56
  Speaker C: Or like a mom queefs in your class. What are you going to do?
• 44:59
  Speaker B: Yeah. Nothing. No, I love it.
• 45:04
  Speaker A: Yeah. So I just feel like. Because you're laughing it up. Do we have any other games?
• 45:09
  Speaker C: I know. That's all I got.
• 45:10
  Speaker A: Okay, perfect. Well, I do. Like, just to wrap it up, like, if you had to say one thing to the listeners out there, like, what.
• 45:18
  Speaker C: Was like, our listeners.
• 45:19
  Speaker A: All our listeners listening to the. My math, they're like, what is just one thing you want them to take from this whole conversation? Honestly.
• 45:26
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 45:27
  Speaker A: I think there's so many things which is like. But, like, just want them to take from this, really.
• 45:30
  Speaker B: Just to not brush off the things that are normalized and really be an advocate for yourself where if you're experiencing something and it doesn't feel like it used to, then there's something that you can do about it. And when you hear like, oh, that's just what it is, don't accept that because you deserve better. I think that's. Honestly. Yeah, you. We deserve better.
• 45:50
  Speaker A: Better. Woman on three. Wait. I love that. That's actually awesome. I mean, it was an absolute, absolute pleasure, not only taking your class, but having you here on our podcast, just learning all things.
• 46:00
  Speaker C: Learn all the things.
• 46:01
  Speaker A: I actually learned a lot today, I swear. And I'll be asking you a lot of questions, but not right now. But seriously, it was a pleasure having you. And I think this is. What you're doing is absolutely awesome. No matter where it goes or where you are now, you should be proud of what you're accomplishing in the moment because it's absolutely freaking awesome. Like, women supporting women. I. Women supporting women. I appreciate what you're doing. And although I didn't go through do that with my pelvic floor, like, it opened up so many doors for me, I feel like. Yeah, and I feel like for you, too.
• 46:29
  Speaker B: Well, the thing is, as this evolves, like so many women, then as you go through perimenopause and menopause, this is all the same thing. And obviously you come rushing back. So, like, now you might. Down the road, I have to prepare for this.
• 46:42
  Speaker A: No, I love it.
• 46:42
  Speaker B: So this helps with all of that?
• 46:43
  Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. Well, I mean, this was absolutely freaking awesome. It's obviously Mama clock right now. Two favorite girlies, Dom and Emily, coming to your last live. I do have two things to say.
• 46:53
  Speaker C: Bam.
• 46:54
  Speaker A: Don't forget about our merch.
• 46:56
  Speaker C: Yes. Please buy armor.
• 46:57
  Speaker A: We're always so desperate to tell people to buy our merch. We are creating sweatshirts, the taglines, as we speak.
• 47:04
  Speaker C: Should I go grab. Grab one?
• 47:05
  Speaker A: Yeah, go grab one.
• 47:06
  Speaker C: Okay.
• 47:07
  Speaker B: I.
• 47:07
  Speaker A: Guys, everybody knows who's creating merch out there. It's so hard to come up with the things you like. And I'm very picky, so I'm just like, there's a sticker on that one. But.
• 47:16
  Speaker C: But look, it says I'm freaking out. Like, Dom always says.
• 47:19
  Speaker A: Yeah, you know, if you know, you know. And we're just coming up with things. And honestly, sweatshirts are a big thing for me right now.
• 47:25
  Speaker C: More taglines.
• 47:26
  Speaker A: More taglines, more merch.
• 47:28
  Speaker C: But, like, I'm queefing.
• 47:31
  Speaker A: I just wear that.
• 47:32
  Speaker C: I just queefed.
• 47:32
  Speaker A: Yeah. So I love it. But seriously, merch. More merch dropping soon. But merch is always available.
• 47:40
  Speaker C: Always.
• 47:42
  Speaker A: Was there one more thing I had to say?
• 47:43
  Speaker C: We're getting a lot of sponsors.
• 47:45
  Speaker A: Oh, a lot of sponsors and a lot of gifts. Guests. So as you say, we're really excited about all that. But anyway, this is Danielle. She created the Maya method. What's your follow her? What's your handle on Instagram?
• 47:58
  Speaker B: So it's Danielle Donovan co on Instagram. Love it.
• 48:02
  Speaker A: And do any other socials.
• 48:03
  Speaker B: And then May is the website. And if you sign up for a class, use code. We'll do mom 20 for 20%.
• 48:09
  Speaker A: Yes. She knows better than us. Mom 20. We'll do 20%, you said. Love that. That's awesome.
• 48:13
  Speaker C: Amazing.
• 48:13
  Speaker A: You heard it here first. Anyway, thanks so much for joining. We love you.
• 48:19
  Speaker B: Bye, guys.
• 48:20
  Speaker C: Bye.
• 48:20
  Speaker B: Bye.
• 48:20
  Speaker A: Thank you.