Latest / Authentic Living / Excuse my ADHD...and the Skills that Help with Jeanette Graham
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- 0:01Welcome to authentic living with Roxanne, a place where we conscious conversations about
- 0:08things that really matter in our lives.
- 0:12And now here's your host, Roxanne Derhodge.
- 0:33Hi, everyone.
- 0:36It's Roxanne Derhodge, and, thanks for tuning in again this week.
- 0:41I have a colleague, Jeanette.
- 0:43Jeanette, how are you today?
- 0:44I'm very well.
- 0:45How are you, Roxanne?
- 0:47So Jeanette and I, met, we're all but both podcasters and, you know, she's she covers a
- 0:54topic, which I think is something that we see so often.
- 0:57And I I thought, you know, why not have her in on so that maybe people that are interested in
- 1:04ADHD might be able to tune into her podcast and learn a lot more.
- 1:08I'll just tell you a little bit about Jeanette and her background.
- 1:12And she her life never made sense.
- 1:15She's also like she never fit in.
- 1:17It was just different.
- 1:18And in 2017, the spring, she was, diagnosed with ADHD.
- 1:25So also, and everything start to make sense.
- 1:28She learned about ADHD and and more start to learn more about herself.
- 1:32She was different and realized didn't fit in, but that's okay.
- 1:35We're all different.
- 1:37And there's aspects of ADHD and most people, wouldn't wish to on their best friend, but
- 1:43there are also those things that made them stand out in the best way.
- 1:47Despite her hardships, she's had by success in her career and family, and I'd love to talk a
- 1:51little bit more about that.
- 1:52And she shares a journey of acceptance from our diagnosis going to a treat end and just
- 1:57juggling the daily life, on her new podcast, which I want everybody to, tune into, and we'll
- 2:04we'll include a link in the show notes for excuse my ADHD.
- 2:09So welcome, welcome.
- 2:10Thank you.
- 2:12So
- 2:13I would say that a lot of people have a lot of misconceptions about what ADHD is and what it's
- 2:19not.
- 2:20So and because you've been on this journey, I obviously in my years, being in practice and
- 2:25coaching and consulting, I've come in contact with people or just people that I've had to
- 2:29work with.
- 2:30But tell tell everyone what you found out about what ADHD is.
- 2:34You've lived with it, but then you looked at it from the angle of actually getting diagnosed
- 2:39and kind of navigating treatment for it?
- 2:42Well, for me, like you said, in my bio, I never really fed in, and I was always a little bit
- 2:48different.
- 2:49So, like, my mom and I are very much alike.
- 2:52And, you know, we would do things that are considered impulsive that most people don't
- 2:59normally do.
- 3:00Like, we would stay up late, do a midnight run to Walmart because we wanted to make homemade
- 3:06Fettuccine alfredo at 1 o'clock in the morning.
- 3:10So it it's things like that.
- 3:11And little things like that all through my life.
- 3:15And in the spring of 2017, I had my 3rd car accident in 12 months.
- 3:25My husband, he had heard a testimonial of somebody who had ADHD and was listening to
- 3:32their story and had come home and told me that It was like he was listening to me.
- 3:39Like, that person up there was pretty much telling my life story.
- 3:45You know, most people think ADHD, you think of the kid in school who can't sit still
- 3:51constantly getting in trouble You don't think of the quiet introverted girl who sits in the
- 4:00back of the classroom that nobody sees.
- 4:03And that was me all through school.
- 4:07I got through school well enough that I didn't really have a whole lot of problems.
- 4:12I didn't all a's and then make all f's, I was right in the middle.
- 4:15I had a's, b, c's, d.
- 4:21So I never hit the radar at all.
- 4:23Nobody ever thought of that for me.
- 4:27Parents, teachers, doctors, no one.
- 4:30And so when I finally did go into the doctor and was diagnosed, it absolutely blew me away.
- 4:39Because everything I knew was wrong.
- 4:42I, you know, and even some physicians don't either believe in ADHD or they don't understand
- 4:51it.
- 4:52And so finding out that you don't have to just be that hyperactive kid was just kind of it was
- 5:01mind blowing to me how many different ways 88 can present itself.
- 5:07And then you also have, you know, outside of just women who are misdiagnosed because we when
- 5:14we go in, we are told we have depression.
- 5:17We have anxiety.
- 5:18But those are all comorbidities that 50% of the time occur with ADHD.
- 5:24And then you also have, I think they I read, like, 50% of people on the autism spectrum also
- 5:30have ADHD.
- 5:32So it's not just a one fits all.
- 5:38And I feel like that is what's really important is to destigmatize it and to get people to
- 5:46understand what really is going on because it truly can be debilitating at times.
- 5:53And very imperative, and I don't think there are that many people that understand that.
- 5:58So the goal my podcast is to chronicle My journey with it through treatment, through
- 6:05managing it daily, and then to also have others come on and share their stories.
- 6:12Because when you read a story, you feel an attachment to it.
- 6:20But when you actually hear it and you can hear a person's true emotion behind it, I think it
- 6:28strikes a deeper cord.
- 6:30Mhmm.
- 6:30And it sends a truer mess message.
- 6:32Sorry.
- 6:34Yeah.
- 6:34Sure.
- 6:35So what I'm interested in is we have the stereotypical kind of perception.
- 6:41So let's let's start there and you said there's different ways.
- 6:44Like you said, hey.
- 6:45Most of us have been somewhere in the middle going to school.
- 6:49We've got in trouble.
- 6:52We can be impulsive as teenagers you know No.
- 6:56I was a very impulsive teenager.
- 6:58Okay.
- 6:59But sometimes people say that's being a teen.
- 7:01Right?
- 7:01Mhmm.
- 7:02Exactly.
- 7:03Some qualities that you're describing that I think I don't know about the listeners, but I
- 7:07would think, oh, I could kinda see that sometimes I've kind of experienced those
- 7:10things.
- 7:11Yep.
- 7:12I had a conversation actually with someone.
- 7:14I'd gone to Ireland back in July, and I met somebody on a bus, and we were talking about
- 7:19that exact same thing.
- 7:21He was asking me about I don't even remember how we got on the subject, but he was asking me
- 7:26about the different symptoms.
- 7:27And as I telling him, he's like, oh, well, I'm this sometimes.
- 7:30And, yeah, I do that.
- 7:31I do that.
- 7:33And I had to keep explaining to him, yes.
- 7:36Everybody has some of these symptoms some of the time, but the key factors are, have you
- 7:43always had these symptoms?
- 7:46And do they affect every aspect of your life?
- 7:49So it's not just, okay, I can't remember appointments for doctors at home.
- 7:55It's I can't remember appointments at home.
- 7:57I can't remember appointments for in meetings at work.
- 8:01It it affects everything.
- 8:03It's, you know, and it it's kind of Attention deficit isn't really accurate, I think, because
- 8:11we can pay attention.
- 8:13The fact is we pay attention to everything.
- 8:15And that's the problem.
- 8:16It's more of a focus issue.
- 8:18It's more of a you know, and it's interesting.
- 8:20I had, a situation with a consulting, situation.
- 8:25And so I said to the person in the room, right, because I know with me, I I need if I'm
- 8:32writing, for instance, because I'm a writer, I need dead comm, but sometimes I need music or,
- 8:36you know, depending on what I'm creating.
- 8:39And he's just trying to explain to me, what it was like to have ADHD and he which he had.
- 8:45He said, your voice is competing, and he started to lit a nice, everything that he was
- 8:53hearing.
- 8:54There was little crackles that I didn't even hear there were, like, barely something outside
- 8:59of the room and, you know, the fan kinda maybe going two doors over.
- 9:05The I had to literally slow my senses down and focus just to be able to hear what he was
- 9:12hearing.
- 9:13Because, like, right now, I can hear the traffic going outside even with my headphones
- 9:17on, and I have to make sure that I focus
- 9:21Right.
- 9:21And what he what was telling for me, Jeanette, is that he said, and your voice is equally as
- 9:28as loud as those other sounds.
- 9:31Mhmm.
- 9:31And I said, when I said, wow.
- 9:34I said, so, you know, I know sometimes with me, if I'm, you know, had a long day or whatever,
- 9:38and I just need complete silence.
- 9:41He said, well, just think of it that sometimes you can never get silence.
- 9:45No.
- 9:45Because even when you're in a silent room, you can still hear the air conditioning.
- 9:49You can steer here all the noises outside.
- 9:52So you never really have that true complete silence.
- 9:55I was actually recording an episode about a week ago I had the door shuts.
- 10:01I had my headphones in and everything was fine, but I could still hear people talking outside
- 10:07of my house.
- 10:08And it was distracting me.
- 10:09And I would have to stop and get up and see what was going on because it was bothering me
- 10:16so bad.
- 10:17So So let let's talk about how that impacts your ability to connect.
- 10:23Right?
- 10:23Like, when you're not stabilized, say with whatever you need to take to get stabilized
- 10:30conversations with your partner or your children or, you know, at work or what's what's
- 10:37that like if if that's happening?
- 10:40Okay.
- 10:41So I'm at home and I'm talking to my husband.
- 10:47If my kids are at upstairs in another room and starting an argument, automatically, my
- 10:52attention goes to that.
- 10:54Yeah.
- 10:54And a lot of times this causes trouble in our relationship, and we've had issues with it
- 10:59because he feels like I'm detached.
- 11:02And I don't care, which is actually opposite of what's going on.
- 11:08It's just that I'm hearing him, but I'm also hearing what's going on elsewhere.
- 11:13And my brain is bouncing back and forth.
- 11:16If I'm having a meeting in my office with coworkers, I'm discussing whatever we're
- 11:23talking about But then if I hear somebody across the hall in the kitchen, I start I'm in
- 11:30the middle of that conversation.
- 11:32In my head.
- 11:34And so it it's a lot of bouncing in and around.
- 11:38And Having ADHD, it also there's other things to interrupting people.
- 11:46It's like my brain is going so fast that I feel like I can anticipate what's gonna be said, and
- 11:52it just comes out.
- 11:54And that that would be viewed as, you're being rude or you know, you're you're talking over
- 12:00people because you know better.
- 12:02All those things I would think would you'd be kind of judged
- 12:05you know,
- 12:06to some degree.
- 12:07Yeah.
- 12:07And this has been a real problem again, you know, with my relationships at home, especially
- 12:12because my husband feels like You know, I do it on purpose.
- 12:17Right.
- 12:18Right.
- 12:19And he tries to be as understanding as possible, but You know, he's had to put up with
- 12:23me for 17 years.
- 12:26I'm sure it's probably getting pretty old, but, you know, I try.
- 12:31I I have to consciously focus on not doing it.
- 12:38Because otherwise, it just comes out.
- 12:40So is there some skills that you've learned that has helped to be able to try to, you know,
- 12:46be able to, I would say channel a bit more to be able to kind of, you know, if your husband
- 12:53wants to talk about you know, maybe some difference that you had the day before.
- 12:57The last thing he needs to know is that you're thinking about the kids who are about to, like,
- 13:00probably have a little bit of a toggle over there.
- 13:03He wants your your your your attention even if it's for 5 minutes.
- 13:07Mhmm.
- 13:08Yeah.
- 13:09One of the things I try to do Unconsciously, I I kind of I don't grind my teeth, but I clench
- 13:16them.
- 13:17And that helps focus me I fidget a lot with the piece of fabric or just whatever pencil
- 13:25anything I have.
- 13:26I fidget But it focusing on those things helps me to, I guess, stay in the moment And not
- 13:40because otherwise, I'm like, either I'm counting I have to count in my head sometimes
- 13:44too to make sure that I'm not over talking somebody when they take a breath.
- 13:49Because when you have ADHD, you're just you're you wanna get it out because whatever thoughts
- 13:54in your head You have to get it out because if you don't, our working memory, that executive
- 13:59function, that working memory is so bad.
- 14:02That you'll lose whatever train of thought you had.
- 14:05And hence why we're probably trying to interrupt because you're thinking if I don't if
- 14:09I don't if I don't give this up, I'm gonna lose that.
- 14:12Yeah.
- 14:12And that's part of it.
- 14:14And it's hard to explain that to people because you're really not being rude on purpose.
- 14:21It's not purposely done.
- 14:24It's not a case of you know, you should no matter why are you doing this.
- 14:28It's it takes practice to build on those skills, you have to literally focus on not
- 14:37interrupting people and focus on being direct in that moment with them, looking them in the
- 14:45face, and anytime you want to look at something else, you have to remind yourself consciously
- 14:51to stay in the moment.
- 14:55So it's work.
- 14:57It's hard work.
- 14:59Unlike most people who just it's kind of automatic.
- 15:03So, you know, for any of us to stay mindful, it's a hard it's a hard job.
- 15:10Right?
- 15:10Mhmm.
- 15:11Yep.
- 15:11And you don't have those other variables kind of coming at you.
- 15:15Right.
- 15:15But for you to have to do it, it's you you're talking about tactile.
- 15:20Like you said, you know, you know, the maybe the I don't know if the fidget spinners would
- 15:26help or something tactile, but I know with, sometimes when people are in the spectrum, they
- 15:32do a lot of tactile therapy with them.
- 15:35Does that make does that make sense?
- 15:36So, but if you think about our senses, sites don't taste that smell.
- 15:41A lot of times, if we're, you know, connected from the present, touching something helps.
- 15:47Yeah.
- 15:48Absolutely.
- 15:48And I think that's where a lot of that comes from.
- 15:50I'll start picking at my pants or a shirt or something, and that helps me.
- 15:57Okay.
- 15:58So what is it like with your kids because kids will be kids.
- 16:06Yeah.
- 16:08And how how old are your children?
- 16:10So I have twins that just turned 6 and they're girls and I have a ten year old boy.
- 16:16Wow.
- 16:17So they're all pretty active and they keep me going But, you know, with the ADHD, it's,
- 16:25again, it's work to sit and be engaged with them all the time, like, just sitting and
- 16:31trying to play with them.
- 16:32I find myself constantly doing wanting to do something else.
- 16:37Not that I don't love being there with them and playing with them.
- 16:40It's just it's this physical need to get up and do something else.
- 16:46Wow.
- 16:46So you have to, again, the same strategies that you're talking about, obviously, with your
- 16:50partner, you're you're and kids aren't gonna get it.
- 16:53Right?
- 16:53Right.
- 16:54No.
- 16:54They don't under and why mommy look at why isn't mommy looking at me?
- 16:58Why isn't mommy
- 16:58paying attention?
- 16:59Why is mommy doing something else while she's, you know, supposed to be playing with me?
- 17:03So it's a hard it's a hard balance.
- 17:06And I guess it's you can maybe tell the ten year old that maybe mummy gets distracted
- 17:10sometimes, but the six year old ones are gonna go, they have no clue what you're trying to
- 17:14say.
- 17:14It's really Right.
- 17:15Mom mommy, I need you.
- 17:16You're you're not paying attention.
- 17:18What's wrong with you?
- 17:19Mhmm.
- 17:20So it's so you've learned strategies that you continue to use all the time.
- 17:25Yeah.
- 17:26What what kind of things affect it?
- 17:26Like, you know, does diet affected?
- 17:30Does exercise affected?
- 17:32What kind of things have you learned?
- 17:33Like, so maybe talking about how you maneuver the system, and maybe what kind of things or
- 17:38strategies that you've found that has been most helpful for you or just from others that you've
- 17:43interviewed.
- 17:43And and and I know you would probably continue to be a lot of people and have used a lot of
- 17:48different things.
- 17:50So what I have found that works for me, probably one of the best things is exercise.
- 17:57Because it helps you with that dopamine and need that dopamine fix in order to focus.
- 18:00That's one of the issues.
- 18:01It's because ADHD is a neurological deficiency of hormones.
- 18:10It's the serotonin and the dopamine that you need and you're not getting.
- 18:14So exercising helps release more of the dopamine.
- 18:19I do jogging and yoga.
- 18:22Yoga helps relax and
- 18:23calm me a lot.
- 18:23Just focusing on the
- 18:23breathing and the movement I am probably more focused when I'm
- 18:33doing yoga than just about
- 18:33any other time during the day.
- 18:34Running is good because it helps me release some of the energy that I have at the end of
- 18:47the day.
- 18:48I don't have a whole lot of hyperactivity, but I do have some and the running helps get some
- 18:55of that out.
- 18:57And it helps me think.
- 18:59So when I come home, I can focus on doing the things that I need to do.
- 19:03I can get the laundry done and do the laundry and not get caught doing, you know, oh, I threw
- 19:09the laundry in and started it.
- 19:10I moved on to dishes.
- 19:12I moved on to something the dishes are half done, and then I moved on upstairs.
- 19:15And whatever I was doing up there's half done, and I'm coming back.
- 19:18And it's been, like, 5 hours, and I've still got laundry in
- 19:21So there's a pool of things of could be pools of things of unfinished tasks because you kinda
- 19:27you you
- 19:27You saw something and you thought, oh, that has to get done and you kind of
- 19:30That's probably one of the easiest descriptions of what ADHD does to you is trying to clean a
- 19:39house because
- 19:39it it is so hard.
- 19:39Most people can get it done in flowers.
- 19:45They go room to room to room.
- 19:46Boom.
- 19:46They're done.
- 19:47They vacuum the dust.
- 19:48They clean the bathroom.
- 19:49They're done.
- 19:51For me, let's say I start I said, with laundry.
- 19:54I'm throwing the laundry in, oh, there's a ball on the floor.
- 19:58I need to take that up to the kids room.
- 19:59That's where it goes.
- 20:00So I get to the kids room.
- 20:02The laundry started, so that's fine, but I get to the kids' room and I put the ball up and I'm
- 20:07like, ugh, this needs to be organized.
- 20:09So I start organizing it.
- 20:11And then I find something that doesn't belong in there, and I take it to say their bedroom.
- 20:17And I'm in the bedroom.
- 20:18I'm putting it up, and the next thing you know, I'm reorganizing their closet.
- 20:23I'm getting stuff out for goodwill, and I haven't vacuumed anything.
- 20:26I haven't dusted anything.
- 20:27I haven't really straightened up the playroom like I was going to, and I still have laundry
- 20:31downstairs.
- 20:32And it's probably been 3 hours.
- 20:34Wow.
- 20:34I've done nothing.
- 20:36And then the next thing you know, okay, I'm like, alright, I'm gonna do this.
- 20:39And I start cleaning the room.
- 20:41I get their bed made.
- 20:42I go to get the vacuum, but on the way to get the vacuum, I forget something I need in my
- 20:47bedroom.
- 20:47And I'm in my bedroom.
- 20:48I'm like, I gotta go to goodwill.
- 20:50So then I'm pulling things out of the closet and I'm making a goodwill bag.
- 20:53Laundry's been done for 3 hours.
- 20:55It needs to be switched over to the dryer.
- 20:57Still sitting there.
- 20:58I could have a dish.
- 20:59You know, the sink could be full of dish water and dishes that's now cold because I've let it
- 21:05sit for so long.
- 21:06And still nothing else is done.
- 21:09And so my husband used to came home, he'd asked me what I've been doing all day.
- 21:16And, like, I've been cleaning the house.
- 21:18He's like, no.
- 21:19Nothing.
- 21:20So I'm like, oh, well, I'm deep cleaning.
- 21:21That was always my excuse.
- 21:22I was deep cleaning.
- 21:24But it was ADHD.
- 21:26Mhmm.
- 21:27Because you and that's one of the things I read on the boards a lot is that people will ask the
- 21:35question, what is the best way to clean this room?
- 21:36One room.
- 21:41One room.
- 21:42A normal person can get done in 20 minutes.
- 21:46Right.
- 21:46We have to have a system to do it.
- 21:50But when I've been running and I'm on my medication, then I can do it like a normal
- 21:56person does.
- 21:57Because what the medication and the running due for me is it helps even that playing field.
- 22:03It doesn't give us an advantage.
- 22:06It helps us be closer to, I guess, neurotypical.
- 22:11Neurotext.
- 22:12That's the word.
- 22:13Like, the rest of, like, the rest of us neuro whatever whatever that is.
- 22:17I mean
- 22:17Whatever that is.
- 22:18I have no idea.
- 22:19I don't know about neurotypical because it seems like all of us are we've all got our
- 22:23thing.
- 22:24Right?
- 22:24Right.
- 22:25Then, you know, with ADHD, you've got comorbidities.
- 22:27So I've also got, you know, I'm OCD.
- 22:30I am, interpersonally sensitive And then you have rejections sensitive Dysphoria, which
- 22:38comes with ADHD.
- 22:40And, you know, my emotions are all over the place.
- 22:43I pick up on other emotions when I'm cleaning a room and I'm organizing the closet, not only in
- 22:48my organized, I'm finger spacing, I'm color coding with hangers, shorts sleeve, a long slit
- 22:54It is a mess.
- 22:55My head is a mess.
- 22:58There's a lot there's a lot of going on up there, basically.
- 23:01Yes.
- 23:01So, you know, so That said, obviously, now, like you said, you have you've learned
- 23:06strategies to be able to do it.
- 23:08Let's talk about work because you you do we just got on the line and she says that she
- 23:13works in at a university medical school.
- 23:16And, I would think that that is microscopic and methodical, and I'm gonna use the word
- 23:25monotonous on in a bad way.
- 23:27So how do you get through a day?
- 23:29How did you learn?
- 23:30What skills did you have to develop to be able to be doing this position for as long as you
- 23:35have?
- 23:36Okay.
- 23:36So I What started it for me was I began working as an administrative assistant in the College
- 23:44of Public Health.
- 23:46And my boss who would drive me crazy sometimes to the point where I just wanna strangle him.
- 23:52But he was the one that actually started steering me into the trajectory and then I'm
- 23:57in.
- 23:58Submitting I started with submitting grant proposals.
- 24:03And through grants, you see all of the science that goes through in the grants.
- 24:10And you see how important it is and what kind of an impact it can make on other people's
- 24:15lives.
- 24:16Right.
- 24:17And all of a sudden, It's important.
- 24:21And what you're doing is important.
- 24:23And having that, I think, is what I do easier for me because I'm passionate about parts of
- 24:28it.
- 24:30So once I got through all of that doing, you know, grant proposal submissions, I started
- 24:36doing the post award part of it, which is the accounting and finance.
- 24:41And what's even funnier about that is I also have, I believe I have dyscalculia.
- 24:47Which is kind of a it's similar to dyslexia, but with numbers and patterns.
- 24:53But I deal with numbers every day.
- 24:56So you so you get distracted by patterns or you see?
- 25:00No.
- 25:00So I will interchange numbers.
- 25:06Okay.
- 25:07Decimal's in the wrong place, plus or minus signs in the wrong place.
- 25:13I am horrible with dates.
- 25:16If I'm going fifty five miles an hour, I feel like I'm going 30.
- 25:22If I'm going 80, I feel like I'm going 50.
- 25:25So I have a distorted sense of how, like, speed I have a distorted sense of time, but that's
- 25:32also an ADHD symptom, but a lot of it has to do with abilities to do math.
- 25:39So algebra equations order, you know, what order do you put these numbers in to answer the
- 25:48equation, where do they go?
- 25:49All of that.
- 25:50So, like, going through school, math was never a de I barely scrape through math, but I deal
- 25:58with numbers and spreadsheets all day long.
- 26:01So I have to have checks and balances in place because I am so bad at numbers.
- 26:05I transpose numbers a lot.
- 26:08But what I'm good at And what I think keeps me interested is that a lot of times with this
- 26:15post award part of it, it's keeping It's making sure faculty are spending their money properly.
- 26:22But what I have found is that I get thrown into situations where I'm the new person, and I have
- 26:28to clean up something somebody has done for the past several years.
- 26:32I'm really good at finding mistakes and issues and fixing them.
- 26:38And it's like a puzzle for me.
- 26:41So that challenge is what keeps me interested in it.
- 26:45So that's the that's a pause.
- 26:47It's what an amazing thing.
- 26:49Right?
- 26:49Because and I I really wanna talk a little bit about that because I think there are positive
- 26:54things, that comes out of this.
- 26:57Like you said
- 26:58Oh, absolutely.
- 26:59You know, because your brain is working at such a at a accelerated rate, you're able to
- 27:04probably calibrate things a lot quicker than say somebody else's brain that's not I'm not
- 27:09able to synthesize information as quickly.
- 27:12I think one of the things that people with ADHD have is just a really special ability to think
- 27:20about things outside the box, to problem solve and to be creative.
- 27:26Because like you said, we do.
- 27:27We think of so many things all at the same time, but we also think of things a little bit
- 27:33differently and maybe kind of I think there's a little bit more sense of wonder there for us.
- 27:38That we haven't totally lost yet, but it absolutely helps me in what I do because I find
- 27:45things that other people don't see.
- 27:48Oh, wow.
- 27:49I'll find issues with the accounting.
- 27:53And it's like, it's not just, oh, this number's entered in wrong.
- 27:56It's The students pay, the students tuition, the students health insurance were all put in
- 28:02wrong, but why?
- 28:04What should it really be What should the missing piece be?
- 28:08And it's taking, you know, a notice of award from a grant that tells you how to spend it,
- 28:13the budget that was submitted, and the actual what was input into the system and having a
- 28:20piece through all of that to find out what it should really be.
- 28:23Okay.
- 28:24And so I do that a lot.
- 28:26It's the problem solving that I'm gonna and the job that I'm in now, I am the senior business
- 28:33administrator.
- 28:33So I have accountants that do the smaller work, and they bring all their problems to me.
- 28:38And I help them problem solve their departments.
- 28:41Wow.
- 28:42That's a that's a that's amazing.
- 28:43Just a thought of numbers scare me.
- 28:45So and I'm not microscopic.
- 28:47So the thought of what you do, it's that that's absolutely amazing.
- 28:51That, you know, we oftentimes look at the negatives associated with certain things and
- 28:57sometimes like I have a girlfriend and her son is autistic.
- 29:01And I I've seen him I mean, he we've been friends for 30 years and I've seen this child
- 29:08obviously the diagnosis and all of those things, but the amazing, he can create these
- 29:16massive puzzles within the things that would take the average child probably days.
- 29:24She will she would buy something and it would be done within an hour.
- 29:28Oh, wow.
- 29:28And I'm like, how did that happen?
- 29:31Right?
- 29:32Yeah.
- 29:32You can't, you know, connect and and do the social kind of engagement, but there's a part
- 29:38of his brain that's so high level functioning that it's absolutely amazing to watch.
- 29:43So I think it's a nice perspective to look at and say, okay, this is happening, but what is
- 29:48the positive that actually, the brain is demonstrating that it can achieve?
- 29:53Yeah.
- 29:54And there are there are some.
- 29:55And a lot of people in the ADHD community, we refer to them as our superpowers.
- 30:01So that ability to problem solve and think outside of the box, the creativity, and then
- 30:08you have a hyper focus.
- 30:11So for those who don't know, hyperfocus, so, for example, I remember living at my parents'
- 30:17house, and I would get into a book that I loved.
- 30:21And I would be from, on a Saturday morning, from the time I woke up till the time I went to
- 30:27bed doing nothing but reading that book and being completely oblivious to anything else
- 30:33going on.
- 30:34I wouldn't eat.
- 30:35I wouldn't drink.
- 30:37The only time I would get up would be to go to the bathroom.
- 30:40There's a the slight downside is is somebody interrupts you.
- 30:43You get really agitated.
- 30:45But you if you can use that hyper focus when you can use it.
- 30:51Then, I mean, incredible.
- 30:54You can get through and do incredible things with it.
- 30:59But when you can't, it can be really disruptive.
- 31:03Like, if you get into something and you get into that hyper focus, tell somebody, okay,
- 31:07I'll be done with this in an hour 6 hours later.
- 31:09You're still into it.
- 31:11You
- 31:11know?
- 31:12Yeah.
- 31:12Still sitting here at work, and I supposed to be home and had dinner.
- 31:15And my husband's like, where are you at, and what are you doing?
- 31:18Yeah.
- 31:19Of course.
- 31:19But there have been times where it come in really handy, especially if you've
- 31:24procrastinated on something to the last minute, that hyper focus that you get in because you're
- 31:32it's like, I think we perform better under pressure.
- 31:37I guess there's a way to look at because you just get so focused that you can just, boom,
- 31:42done with whatever you're doing because nothing else bothers you.
- 31:46So for the for the leaders or the employers that are listening, what kind of guidance would
- 31:53they would you give them or things for them to consider when, when dealing with people that
- 31:57might have, ADHD at work?
- 32:00I think You need to find out what challenges them, what excites them, and help them find
- 32:08ways in their job to do those things that challenge them.
- 32:12Because when we're challenged and we enjoy doing something, we excel at it.
- 32:19But it's those mundane boring tasks that we have trouble with.
- 32:25And sometimes may need a little your time to get through them.
- 32:30I think deadlines are really important and having if you're gonna give somebody a project
- 32:37that has ADHD.
- 32:39I think something that's really important is being available to help them break it down to
- 32:45pieces.
- 32:46Because when you you look at a big project and then all of a sudden you're like, oh my god,
- 32:50how am I even gonna where do I start?
- 32:52How do I get through?
- 32:53How do I get to from point a to point b.
- 32:56But then when you break it out into smaller tasks, it makes it a lot easier because then
- 33:03you can do the one small thing.
- 33:05And then you can do the next small thing and the next and the next.
- 33:08And then before you know it, you've done something you didn't think you could do.
- 33:14And I think having those small tasks are important.
- 33:17So having creating the structure like if we use the analogy of the room, if you know today, I'm
- 33:23gonna strip the beds and vacuum and put away the close.
- 33:28It's the same analogy as at work where you have the direction.
- 33:32This is what I'm going to achieve in the time period that I have.
- 33:34So really, really important to have deadlines, have guidance, be be able to have, someone to
- 33:42that you can go to if there is not that, chunked them parts to a project and
- 33:48productivity would increase, obviously, when you're interfacing with someone like that if
- 33:53they were to have that structure.
- 33:55Yeah.
- 33:55And I found, kind of a revised version of the Pomodoro method.
- 34:02Is helpful for me too when I'm trying to transition because transitions at work can be
- 34:08really hard.
- 34:08So tell me what the Pomodaro method is because I don't know and for anybody listening that
- 34:13don't know, what is it?
- 34:14So the Pomodoro method is you take you have a timer, and it breaks down your time into 20
- 34:23minute chunks.
- 34:24We get 20 minutes then a 5 minute break.
- 34:2620 minutes 5 minute break.
- 34:2720 minutes and a 5.
- 34:28And then after 4 chunks, you take a longer 15 to 30 minute break.
- 34:33And you just do this throughout the day until whatever you've been working on, you get done,
- 34:39or you need to transition to something else.
- 34:42Right.
- 34:43So I have an app.
- 34:45It's called BRAIN Focus because at what I found is that the 20 minutes doesn't work for me.
- 34:50Right.
- 34:5020 minutes for me isn't long enough to get into something and then transition out of it.
- 34:57So I do 40 minutes.
- 34:59I do 40 minutes and then a 10 minute break or a 5 minute break.
- 35:04And I can get more I've found that I get more tasks done on my checklist, then if I don't do
- 35:10it.
- 35:12Amazing.
- 35:12Amazing.
- 35:15I mean, kind of another thing, I guess, is I bullet journal.
- 35:19I live and die by my bullet journal and Google.
- 35:23For my meetings.
- 35:25Mhmm.
- 35:26And, you know, tasks that I have to have done at work for projects.
- 35:30I put them all in my Google calendar with reminders And then I write them down because
- 35:35what I have found is at least for me and some other people with ADHD.
- 35:40Is it writing that physical action of writing it down helps your working memory.
- 35:46It helps you remember better.
- 35:48So I do both of those things.
- 35:50And, I guess something else employers has so many jobs are now broken into cubicles.
- 36:00That is a really hard environment for somebody with ADHD to work in.
- 36:04I would think so.
- 36:05That is extremely difficult.
- 36:09So any way they could not have a cubicle or at least have a place that they could go when
- 36:14they're working on something time sensitive would be helpful too.
- 36:20Well, this is this has been amazing information.
- 36:22So tell everybody about your podcast and when where, you know, where they could catch it, I
- 36:28will put a link in the show notes.
- 36:29Like I said, I am I have not listened.
- 36:33I'm going to listen because I think I can learn a lot more.
- 36:35It sounds like there's a lot of fascinating things that you'll be covering.
- 36:39So share with everyone what, what the podcast is about and where they can, tune in.
- 36:44Sure.
- 36:45The podcast is more of a diary right now.
- 36:48It is a diary of what I've gone through from being diagnosed to treatment, using medication,
- 36:57and the journey is to continue with trying different things.
- 37:03So trying one of the things I wanna try is, mindfulness and meditation.
- 37:09And so what I'll the plan is to do an episode on that.
- 37:14Mhmm.
- 37:14And then to actually go into practice with it and get back to everybody with what the results
- 37:21were and what I noticed the effects were on my ADHD if it helped, if it didn't help, things
- 37:26like that and just to keep going.
- 37:28And then eventually, I want other people to come on and tell their stories.
- 37:34I think that's the most important part is for people to share their stories and to get the
- 37:40stigma broken out.
- 37:42I can be found at www.excusemyadhd.com.
- 37:47And pretty much anywhere that you listen to podcast, iTunes, Google, Stitcher, Casbox,
- 37:56Alexa, iTunes.
- 37:57It's everywhere.
- 38:00Awesome.
- 38:00Awesome.
- 38:01Thank you for sharing.
- 38:02It's, I've learned so much more, you know, about like I said, I have some knowledge, but
- 38:08not a lot.
- 38:08It really helps me to understand, you know, potentially if I do come into con contact with
- 38:13someone you know, what kind of things they might need for me, to be able to, you know,
- 38:18make the interaction more effective.
- 38:20So So this is great information.
- 38:23I hope everybody tunes in or reaches out.
- 38:25Maybe there's somebody out there that's got a story that might want to potentially be on your
- 38:29podcast.
- 38:31So for everyone listening, we all have differences.
- 38:35Just recognize that we're all we're all dealing with something.
- 38:37And, so that's, you know, whatever you can do to learn what's necessary to assist someone
- 38:44that's potentially coming forward be it at home, be it your children, or or your partner,
- 38:49or, out there in the community or as an employer to recognize that there's ways that
- 38:54you can assist people.
- 38:56And oftentimes it's not it's not it doesn't have to take big things, but just understanding
- 39:01what the person may be may be struggling with So genetic, and thanks so much for your time.
- 39:06I will be tuning tuning in.
- 39:09And, for anyone, needing more information from me, I'm a Roxanne Hodge.
- 39:14You can be reached me at roxanderhodge.com.
- 39:16I'm a mental health and wellness specialist, keynote speaker, and a trainer.
- 39:20Take care, everyone, and thanks again.
- 39:22Thanks for tuning in to authentic living with Roxanne, creating the space for positive,
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