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- 0:01Today's podcast is for you if you have struggled with decluttering from a standpoint
- 0:08of feeling like you can justify a reason to keep every item,
- 0:13and you really struggle letting go or you feel defensive when you are trying
- 0:22to follow some organizer's sort of logic as to,
- 0:28everything has to have an active use in your life and or you need to let it go and
- 0:35and you just struggle with that process if if that sounds like you then get
- 0:41a pencil and paper ready because this is a very tactical episode on,
- 0:46a new way to think through sorting,
- 0:50in which you don't have to worry about defending and you don't have to worry about purging.
- 0:56The answers will reveal themselves in a way that you will be comfortable with.
- 1:01So we'll dig into that right after this.
- 1:04A wise person once said, everybody is a genius, but if you judge a fish by its
- 1:09ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it's stupid.
- 1:14Well, fish, quit trying to climb trees while getting advice from well-intentioned monkeys.
- 1:20It's time to jump in the water and learn how to swim with the current of your life.
- 1:24I'm Joy, a professional organizer, mom of four, and fellow fish brain.
- 1:29If you're looking for a place to get understanding, encouragement,
- 1:33and ideas for your home that actually fit how your brain thinks,
- 1:38then I'm glad you're here.
- 1:39Let's ditch the type A advice and embrace what makes our brains and our homes unique.
- 1:45Together, we could have a joy-loving home.
- 1:50Welcome, or welcome back to the Joy Living Home Podcast. Today,
- 1:53I am excited to dig into a different way to sort.
- 1:57And because I love a good alliteration, you are going to remember this because
- 2:04the categories have four Ps,
- 2:08and that is even before, after all of the sorting is over, we get to choose
- 2:14whether we really want to find it a place or find it a purge.
- 2:18So we are going to dig into this but I need you to be ready to sort of think out of the box to not,
- 2:28resort to that old you know sort like things together and then decide,
- 2:35you know whether they you're actively using them you haven't used it in a year
- 2:40when I really wear this again the whole nine yards.
- 2:43This is going to be totally different categories.
- 2:46I had the opportunity yesterday in the membership group, we have our Tackle
- 2:51It Tuesday Zoom sessions, where we get some accountability. And I tested the
- 2:55whole process out on a cabinet in my kitchen that had gotten out of control.
- 3:02And I am happy to report that the process worked quite well. So I'm,
- 3:06having my exact one sample size to fall back on, I'm ready to dig into it with
- 3:13you. And if you do give this a shout, please consider reaching back out to me.
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- 4:27It's a way to force yourself into action, and we all get a lot done on those
- 4:32Tackle It Tuesdays, so consider joining us.
- 4:35All right, digging into the four Ps of sorting.
- 4:39So what I did yesterday is I was in a Tackle It Tuesday session,
- 4:44and I spent the first hour just overhauling.
- 4:49The countertops and the dishes and got my appearance of my kitchen back to ground zero.
- 4:57So everything was cleaned and put away and washed up and I had a nice,
- 5:02I have a very long island area so I was able to clear it all off.
- 5:06And I put these sticky notes across the island so that I could pull things out
- 5:12of this cabinet and sort them as I was pulling them out.
- 5:15So the first one, and the one that's probably quite logical for you, is purpose.
- 5:21The things that I would sort into the purpose category were things that have
- 5:27an active, clear, current, usable purpose in my life.
- 5:34And that purpose could be a job that it does or a joy that it brings.
- 5:39Those are the only J's you're going to hear about.
- 5:42But it is important to categorize that in my head because there are things that
- 5:48serve a purpose even if they just make you smile.
- 5:52There's nothing wrong. It doesn't have to be utilitarian. So it does have an
- 5:58active, current purpose.
- 6:01So for me, I was sorting out a cabinet where I store a whole lot of things and
- 6:04it's under my coffee maker and
- 6:06it's right next to my table, kitchen table where we eat 98% of our meals.
- 6:13So under this cabinet, there's, you know, the napkins and the plasticware and the paper plates are.
- 6:22For those days when we are not wanting to use the dishes, because for whatever
- 6:29reason, don't have to explain that, you know what that means.
- 6:32Because the coffee maker is on this countertop and the mugs are all above,
- 6:36below is where all the extra coffees and the,
- 6:40powdered creamers and the sweeteners and the to-go coffee cups go and all of that is underneath.
- 6:48And then also underneath is all of the,
- 6:53I have always made my kids birthday cakes and no I am not a talented baker I
- 7:00just can do a rudimentary drawing and I have always let them pick out whatever
- 7:05they want on the top of their cake and so my.
- 7:09Icing tips and and food coloring and,
- 7:14there's also sprinkles and the muffin liners and like all the cupcakes to all
- 7:19that's also all crammed under this same cabinet and it's gotten to where it's
- 7:23gotten a little out of control.
- 7:24So I needed to just evaluate what was under there. So I started lining up all
- 7:30those things that are actually actively purposeful in this does it have a job
- 7:36or does it bring me joy kind of category. All right.
- 7:39The second one is, does it have a plan?
- 7:44And the way I like to have this category and this new way to sort is we have
- 7:54things that we hold on to that,
- 7:57if you were doing the usual sort and purge,
- 8:01you would have to defend at this point.
- 8:04And this is the easiest of the defending because, you know, step A is,
- 8:10yes, I use it, obviously, I keep it.
- 8:12Step two is, well, I know what I want this to be for.
- 8:17I'm just not using it yet.
- 8:21But it has a plan. I have the plan for this thing.
- 8:24And so for me, that was some various sort of coffee supplies that I don't use regularly.
- 8:35And I have them as an emergency power outage stash because my particular coffee
- 8:41maker requires that the beans get ground as the cup of coffee is being made.
- 8:46So I always have to buy the whole beans, which was great and quite frankly, super bougie.
- 8:52I don't get coffee out. But I can defend the fact that I have a nice expensive
- 8:58coffee maker because I really enjoy my coffee, but it definitely makes me eat
- 9:02in or drink in, in this case.
- 9:05But when the power goes out and you can't ground the beans, you can't improvise.
- 9:11So I discovered that having some already ground beans on hand and some filters,
- 9:17even that my actual coffee maker doesn't use the filters,
- 9:21I can get my gas stove to light manually, and I can boil some water,
- 9:27and I can do a lovely pour over, and I can still have my coffee,
- 9:30which is non-negotiable on my days. So.
- 9:34I do have this stash of, it all fits in one sealed container,
- 9:40that contains all of these items that I need for my lovely pour-overs.
- 9:44It has plan. It's not actively used, but I will defend its space because when I need it, it's handy.
- 9:52Do I need to store it in this particular spot?
- 9:55One could have an argument for that, but we're not talking about place yet.
- 9:58Right now, I'm just sorting its existence. So in my sorting of its existence,
- 10:04it doesn't have an active purpose, but it does have a plan. So we've got to go in that category.
- 10:08All right, category four is does it have a possibility?
- 10:13Is there something I have thought would be really cool to use with this item,
- 10:17but the occasion has not arisen yet?
- 10:21And while I am telling you my very concrete kitchen story, this is a really
- 10:25good one for you crafters out there.
- 10:28This will be 90% of your pile if you're being super honest with yourself,
- 10:33if you're a hobbyist and you're sorting your hobby because it might not be something
- 10:37you're actively using and you might not have a definitive project in or a plan
- 10:42in which you're going to use that item but,
- 10:44man you can think of the possibilities it gets you excited that you have this
- 10:49item and you've saved it for a reason because that time will come up when you
- 10:54are ready and that is when you want to use this thing.
- 10:57And again, this is a no defense sort. So you don't have to worry about it.
- 11:02You don't have to get anxious. You don't have to get squirrely.
- 11:05You don't have to start defending anything.
- 11:07You just go, oh yes, this one has possibility. And you stick it in that category.
- 11:13Then my final category is a category that I am calling pointless,
- 11:18but we're going to be really careful about how we understand pointless.
- 11:22This is not pointless as in it has no value.
- 11:26This is not pointless as in this is an easy purge. Why would I even stop it
- 11:31at this category before I just go ahead and purge it?
- 11:34The pointless is it has lost its point as in it is no longer relevant to how I see my living my life.
- 11:43It doesn't devalue the item. So in the pointless.
- 11:49Category, for instance, I have gobs of gobs and gobs of cookie cutters.
- 11:59And there was a point in my life when that was used at least annually for Christmas cookies and,
- 12:10rolling out sugar cookies and doing ice cookies with the kids when they were little.
- 12:15All of my kids are college age and above now.
- 12:18Or there is a point in my life in which I would love to do that with grandkids
- 12:24one day, but I am a far cry from grandkids at this point in my life.
- 12:29At least it seems so. I know life can change on a dime.
- 12:33But at this point, Thank you.
- 12:36It has lost its point. It is pointless. So I will put items that inherently
- 12:44are valuable, that have a lovely memory or an intended future of a one day,
- 12:51but they don't have a point for my life right now. Those get to go in the pointless category.
- 12:56So now that you know we have a purpose, a plan, a possibility, or they're pointless.
- 13:04That you could literally sort everything from anywhere and not have to get anxious
- 13:12about defending its value.
- 13:15Picture this in your closet with things that you're actively wearing,
- 13:20things that you were, you know, you already purchased this for the family Christmas card picture.
- 13:26This has a possibility you loved the item, but you haven't figured out how to
- 13:29match it with an outfit yet. But like when you find that other item that's going
- 13:33to turn this into an outfit, it has a possibility of being worn one day.
- 13:37Or you have that entire wardrobe from when you used to work in the corporate
- 13:42world and now everybody stays home and on the days you have to go back,
- 13:46nobody dresses like they used to.
- 13:48And so these really lovely workwear items have lost their point.
- 13:54That's a closet example of this sorting by the piece.
- 14:00So can you sort of take a breath and go, okay, okay, I can maybe get behind
- 14:08this type of a sort because it's not going to make me have to defend the value of keeping it yet.
- 14:15The value is just what category does it fit in?
- 14:19Is it a purpose? Is it a plan? Is it a possibility? Or is it pointless?
- 14:25Now, once you have it sorted, you look back at the space, and at this point,
- 14:32I, you know, wiped everything down,
- 14:34evaluated, you know, what is the point of the space that I'm about to fill back up?
- 14:42Is it suited for the way I want to use this real estate?
- 14:47Is it suited for how I'm living my life now?
- 14:52It doesn't mean I can't find things a different place, but every spot in your
- 14:57home when you're thinking about place is to think about its function.
- 15:02Is this going to add function to my real existence? Is this going to make my
- 15:09life easier that I am storing this item here?
- 15:14Or is it making my life more complicated because I'm digging through too many
- 15:18things to get to the stuff that's actually useful?
- 15:21To the way I function in my life.
- 15:24So once you define what needs to go into that place, then you can start taking
- 15:30the items they've already categorized themselves as valuable to you,
- 15:36in order based on where you put them in this lineup of a purpose,
- 15:40a plan, a possibility, and a pointless.
- 15:43And then you can start utilizing the space, It's filling it to a level that
- 15:50is actually workable for your real life.
- 15:54And that's when you're deciding, does this thing earn its place here or has it earned a purge?
- 16:03And by a purge, it doesn't mean that it's no longer valuable.
- 16:07It just means its value is going to be in somebody else's home.
- 16:13So you can now, I mean, we're not talking the easy trash.
- 16:18We're not talking the easy, you know, I have a zero energy or interest in this
- 16:24item anymore. Those are the easy purges.
- 16:27We're talking, these were the things that now that I have them out here and
- 16:32now that I see the role they're currently functioning as in my life,
- 16:37I can decide whether I'm willing to defend the real estate I'm about to give it.
- 16:41So for me in this particular storyline of the cabinet,
- 16:46because it lives next to the table all the paper goods all make sense to me
- 16:51to still live here because I'm the type of person where you could say well you
- 16:56know save your paper goods for like an emergency,
- 17:00box them up and stick them down in the storage bin and then when you know the
- 17:04power's out or you've got a really exhausting day And you got too many kids
- 17:09showed up and you don't, you know, there's dishes dirty and you need to pull out extra,
- 17:14plasticware or plates or the party's about to happen or whatever, the impromptu party.
- 17:22I don't like the extra steps of heading into a storage room somewhere and pulling
- 17:26out the bin of paper goods.
- 17:28I like that in a pinch, they're right there by the table.
- 17:31Now, if you're like, I am all about the environment right now.
- 17:36I don't want to use one-use items. To me, these truly are emergency stashes.
- 17:41Then yes, box them up and get them out of there. Create the friction you need
- 17:45to use your everyday dishes every single day.
- 17:49Don't give yourself the easy out by organizing them right by the table if your
- 17:55value is not to ever use them.
- 17:59My value is, I know they're down there. When I need them, I'm disciplined enough
- 18:05to go, yeah, this is a time I'm willing to use a paper plate.
- 18:0990% of the time, I actually reach up to the cabinet right above,
- 18:14and that's where all the dishes sit.
- 18:16So it is just, it's actually easier for me to reach up and grab.
- 18:22The reusable dishes than it is for me to bend down and dig into the cabinet
- 18:27to get the one-time-use dishes.
- 18:31So you know your space, you know your value around that type of usage,
- 18:37so you can defend whether that real estate is worth it to you or not.
- 18:40I also have the luxury of I do have the space. Now, if I didn't have the space
- 18:46in my kitchen and every single inch needs to defend itself against all the kitchen
- 18:51things I use every day, then yeah, maybe then I do box them up.
- 18:56All depends on our very unique living situations. And that's where you get to use your brain.
- 19:05You don't have to defend it to anybody but yourself, but you want the item to be worth your trouble.
- 19:12Okay. So once you have placed all of the things that have an actual purpose,
- 19:17and you're like, this is, this is, it's got elbow room.
- 19:20It's, it's getting used, used well, I've defended all the space then you can
- 19:25look at the things that have a plan and you can say okay these things have a
- 19:29plan do they get stored in this area
- 19:32where it's like everyday use or does it get stored somewhere in a higher cabinet
- 19:38that I have to grab the stepladder for does it get to be stored in the basement does it get to be stored
- 19:43you know in that cabinet over the fridge it's really hard to get to but I like
- 19:47knowing that the stuff is there.
- 19:49You can defend its location and honor it with a place based on your actual function,
- 19:57not on whether it would look nice on Instagram or TikTok.
- 20:00So my little coffee container of In Case the Power Goes Out actually fits right there.
- 20:09I don't have to remember or fumble around in the dark with my,
- 20:14you know, camera, sorry, my phone flashlight because I probably am not having
- 20:21current batteries in my real flashlight.
- 20:23I don't want to go digging for 10 minutes to find a way to make a coffee and
- 20:27I have the space so I can defend keeping my item I plan for a use in that space.
- 20:34Again, already discussed how you make a decision on your placing of things,
- 20:38but for me that worked in that space, and it had room, and so I fit it back in.
- 20:43Now, the things with the possibilities and the possibility items,
- 20:49those to me get the harshest glance, because I.
- 20:55Don't have a good excuse for what ifs.
- 20:59But what if this random thing should happen?
- 21:03And when I'm trying to defend my space, I have to really, really,
- 21:09really be excited about an item in this possibilities category for me to defend the usage of it.
- 21:16And interestingly, I only had some sort of very special use mugs in here.
- 21:24So I had the little fancy little cute little espresso cups and I had these really
- 21:30beautiful pottery thrown mugs, if you will, but they were mugs with no handles.
- 21:36And so they had to have these special silicone sleeves so that you could even
- 21:40handle the pottery because it gets hot when you pour hot coffee in it because
- 21:44I tested it after I thought it was beautiful.
- 21:46And sometimes beautiful things that are meant to be utilitarian just don't really
- 21:49function that well. And so it.
- 21:52It had possibility, but I'm having really trouble because when I do have an
- 21:57espresso, I just reach for the nearest mug and I throw it in.
- 22:01And while I can say I love a pretty mug, I actually use my mugs as memories.
- 22:06That is the thing we do as a souvenir.
- 22:09And I love every day when I reach in my cabinet smiling because,
- 22:14oh, there's the one from the trip to Banff I just got back from.
- 22:17And there's the one from the trip to Yosemite that we took when the kids were
- 22:21younger. And there's the one from Yellowstone with the bison on it because we saw so many bison.
- 22:25So every time I grab a mug, it is a flood of a lovely vacation memory.
- 22:31And these fancy little pottery ones or these little tiny espresso ones don't
- 22:36have a memory associated to them because they're just generic pretty.
- 22:39They're not memory pretty.
- 22:41And so they don't have, there's a possibility, but I can't defend the use of space.
- 22:47So those are, I'm going to be honest, I haven't put them away yet anywhere because
- 22:54I need to dig deeply into the full mug.
- 22:58Aisle, mug cabinet, and dig it all out and make sure all the mugs are earning
- 23:03their space because there are a lot of them.
- 23:05So that is another time's problem.
- 23:09But I did move them because I didn't like them in this place and I wasn't ready
- 23:14to get rid of them yet, but I did move them to where all the other overflow
- 23:19mugs go to defend their space later.
- 23:22They can defend it when I get to that cabinet, but they didn't win the defense
- 23:27of their space in this particular cabinet. So they are gone from that restocking of that space.
- 23:35And then in the pointless category, one could argue that, well,
- 23:42at this point in your life, If you're not using it, purge it. Be done. Be done.
- 23:46But that doesn't mean I'm never using a cookie cutter again.
- 23:49And so it seems very frugally irresponsible of me to toss all of my cookie cutters
- 23:56and then suddenly start over one day when I want to have a project with a grandkid.
- 24:01But what I do know is that I do not need cookies.
- 24:07No exaggeration, probably upwards of 75 cookie cutters.
- 24:12I just don't. That's overwhelming for anybody and who wants to wash all those,
- 24:16even if we got them all out and the kid played with all of them.
- 24:19And yes, I know they work well for Play-Doh too, which is what we use them for
- 24:21probably more than cookie making.
- 24:24So I literally dumped them all out, sorted them by season, discovered I have
- 24:30like five different ones that are Christmas tree shapes and four that are snowflakes
- 24:35and three that are candy canes. You get the point.
- 24:38So I was very easily able to bring it all down to about 10 cookie cutters,
- 24:45which is still plenty of fun for Play-Doh or cookies.
- 24:48And I donated the rest. And the giant container that used to take up a huge
- 24:55portion of that cabinet got narrowed down to something very small and useful.
- 25:01And I was able to purge through all the cake decorator tips to,
- 25:05I have two sets of all the little tips. I donated all the rest.
- 25:09I, that is when it is very easy to start saying, you know, there's a point where too much is too much.
- 25:16I've forgotten what was down here. I lost something and bought too many extra sets.
- 25:20Like all of that, when you get it together, makes sense when you start to organize,
- 25:26but it allowed me to defend the amount of space.
- 25:31In where I wanted to place them because it was smart, it was reasonable,
- 25:37and it was easily defensible for the time when this point of this shows back up in my life.
- 25:44So there was purging that happened, but all of the purging was made so much
- 25:49easier once I could see the value of the function of the item within my life.
- 25:57And I hope that that helps you when you go through whatever it is you're going
- 26:03through and you're feeling that little panic that you're going to have to defend
- 26:08every single item you pick up.
- 26:10If you do this purpose plan possibility point sort first,
- 26:16it will allow you to feel a lot calmer by the time you do want to defend the
- 26:22item against whether it's earned a place or whether it needs to just purge its
- 26:28way off to somebody else's value.
- 26:31So when you're looking at those workwear items that you spent a lot of money
- 26:35on, and they're nice, you could defend those by saying,
- 26:43if the world goes back to where every day I need to dress up for work again.
- 26:49Are there items in here that I never really loved in the first place.
- 26:53And it might be worth narrowing it down to literally just five days worth of
- 26:59workwear stuff that I actually love and would gravitate towards.
- 27:03And then if the time comes, I might be ready to buy some more updated stuff
- 27:09that's better suited to maybe your new size at that point.
- 27:14So there are ways to honor why you're getting rid of things without saying that
- 27:21the item just doesn't have value.
- 27:24All right, I will stop there because, man, this one got long.
- 27:27If you give this a try, though, please let me know how it goes.
- 27:31All right, until next time, continue to choose joy.