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J.R. Reveals CRASH Crucible Events · The Spin Podcast

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  Going on here Jason Hopper here a.
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  Big win for Jason Hopper. Hopper is the fittest band on.
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  Earth October 17th of the 19th Crash Cruise Ball is happening
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  here in Spartanburg, SC and it's not going to be something that
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  you're going to want to miss. There's a ton of grey athletes.
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  Coming in from all over. And they're going to put on a
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  show for you, so we would love to see you in person.
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  Can't make it. It's all going to be on YouTube
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  with live streams and there's going to be a lot of great
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  commentary and interviews going on around the weekend.
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  It's also the first competition that I have ever won, so it
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  means a lot to me and I would love to shake your hand and meet
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  you here. See you soon.
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  Welcome to the Spin Special Edition, where you're going to
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  be revealing the 2025 Crash Crucible workouts with Mr. Jr.
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  Howell himself. We should.
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  He didn't want to be big. Should be.
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  There he is. He's huge.
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  Yeah, Brooks got some big holes to fill on her video.
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  Jason's was really good, so she's better come correct.
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  Yeah, yeah. Is she going to be there?
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  The competition, yeah, we'll see that'd.
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  Be cool. That'd be very cool.
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  We teased the workouts. Crash Crucible like Colton
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  Mertens, Trista Smith, Mason Griffin, Erica Folo.
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  Who else? Late edition Chris Ibarra, which
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  is a good, good addition. Yeah, we'll yeah, we'll release
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  a like final roster because we've had a couple have to pull
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  out from injury. So we we try to keep all the
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  spots completely full, like to have 30 of both.
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  So when we get closer to the competition, we'll make sure
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  that's put out to the public. Very nice.
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  Yeah. So we, I don't know if you guys
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  were fast enough to see the teaser of event one on social
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  media today. It was out there.
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  I don't know if you guys were fast to see it, but we're going
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  to walk through it event by event.
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  And the first one, let me see, I got to find it here.
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  Last time I tried to be all fancy and put all the workouts
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  that was, you know, in in the studio and you guys couldn't
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  read it. You're too, too small.
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  So I had to do a little bit different.
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  But here we go. Event one open season.
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  There it is. It's a lot.
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  Can you make it bigger? So she said.
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  Open season Round one, Round two, Round three, Round four,
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  Round 5/25/20. Toes to bar on a 2 inch bar, 100
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  double unders and then a descending front squats starting
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  at 220-5165, ending at 305205. These are in order, correct?
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  Yep, they're in order. So this is the first workout
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  everyone will do on Friday morning for most people, early
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  afternoon for some of the later heats.
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  And I remember we did the online qualifier show.
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  I hinted of several times that this like proved that you can
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  lift the weight when you're tired with the double unders,
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  the road climbs and the squat cleans that I don't always use
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  the qualifier as screening, but I thought for this workout
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  specifically, especially the version Jason and Brooke did,
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  which was with squat cleans, Rogue Pro double unders and
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  regular toes to bar. I knew that the people that did
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  this workout on site needed to be able to separate on the front
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  squat. It's the most important
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  movement. They're all relevant, right?
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  125 or 100 toes to bar, 500 double unders, a lot of other
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  fitness involved. But at the end of the day, it's
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  who can hold on to the bar because every time you drop it,
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  that's a a clean penalty essentially to get it back to
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  the front rack. So I needed to know in that
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  squat clean workout that at least the people that were going
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  to come, we're able to handle that weight in that same
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  position. And now, if they can go
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  unbroken, they will. Dude this so the the 2 inch toes
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  to bar. That's easy to overlook.
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  How much what? What?
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  What are the dimensions of a regular toe to bar?
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  Yeah. A regular pull up bar is just an
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  inch, so this is not anywhere close to even a yoke upright.
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  It's it's it's it will make the workout a little more
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  interesting, but I don't think it's going to determine any of
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  the outcomes. It's just kind of slid in there
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  kind of like the trapeze bar was a couple years ago in the
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  hundreds shipper. I don't want something like that
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  to really take over the whole the whole event.
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  And this workout will come down to the 35 squats and how fast
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  you can get through them. There's a lot of strategy.
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  This is going to be like an open workout.
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  Obviously this is very 16.219 point 2S with the Rep scheme.
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  The double unders are doubled, Toastabar are the same.
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  And then instead of going, what was it, 15131197II decreased
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  that a little bit because I wanted all the squats to matter.
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  I really didn't want to start at like 135 or 185 where it was
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  just like, OK, cool, who's going to go on broken on the Toastabar
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  and the double unders for the first couple rounds and try to
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  get a little bit of a lead on some of the stronger athletes.
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  This needed to be the the the heavy barbell workout, the heavy
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  squat workout. So I didn't want to take too
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  much away from that. And this this will be the
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  Wednesday night workout for me and Tyler.
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  I thought you were doing them all at once.
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  There aren't, there are no gates like in 16-2 and 19 two.
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  Everyone's going to get the full 20 minute cap, but I think the
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  fastest people are going to be able to go sub three minute
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  average rounds. So you're looking at mid teens
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  for the fastest. OK, I was getting ready to say,
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  but so the 20 minute cap is like you're doing this, you're going
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  to have to stare at that three O 5.
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  How many guys are not? I don't, I don't think there's
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  going to be very many that don't, that aren't able to
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  handle it. The question is going to be, is
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  it 3 squat cleans or is it, is it 1 + 2?
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  You know what I mean? I just don't know for sure.
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  Yeah, it's the first work out of the weekend though.
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  I wanted people to be able to do this fresh because there's a lot
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  of other workouts that are going to beat them up.
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  And honestly, this is this is not one of them, I don't think.
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  Dude, you're, it's, it's a little rude to you to put this.
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  Well, I guess it's not that much volume of squats.
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  It's heavy. But there's there's more volume
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  squatting to come. This is the This is just the
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  heavy. It's only 35 squats, Tyler this.
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  Is wondering how sore you're going to get.
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  From so warm up not. Too bad this it's it's only
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  going to make you sore in the place where event 2 is going to
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  test you, I think. Good Segway.
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  Yeah, I would, I would think. Event 2 already, Tyler.
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  Jeez. I would think midline more than
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  anything as far as what you would, what you would feel.
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  Yeah, like, I mean, shoulders can't be overlooked here.
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  The front squat, the double unders and the toes a bar.
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  Like anything, yeah, it's not any shoulders, OK.
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  All right, all right, It's OK. Next workout.
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  All right. That's why I tried to give you
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  the segue when I did spin creeping in.
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  No territory there. Event #2.
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  This will be a Thursday morning workout for me and Tyler.
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  This one is the G unit. I'm making sure he doesn't back
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  out Jr. like he's he's, he tends to back out on these things.
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  I'm sure there'll be plenty of people hanging out that will
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  work out with you if you need it.
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  If anything I want to do the first one in the evening because
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  I doing that in the morning is a no go.
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  For me G unit right there, 4 rounds for time, 7/6 ring muscle
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  UPS, a 30 foot P bar traverse you're going down and back, 5 *
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  21 GHD sit ups and another 30 foot PO.
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  Reverse. Time cap 12 minutes.
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  This one looks a little shoulder heavy, is it just me?
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  No, it's not. It's it's midline, brother.
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  Yeah, So this is so this workout, it's similar to a
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  workout Jason and Brooke did for their training camp, but this,
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  it actually had bar muscle ups and ring muscle ups and the same
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  workout with P bar Traverse. So it was very, very redundant
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  in the movement patterns. It was an awesome race when they
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  did it if they were within like 20 seconds of each other.
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  Obviously doing bar muscle up and ring muscle ups pretty
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  difficult at Crash unless we use the trapeze bar, which we're not
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  going to for this workout. So if you can visualize the rig,
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  the P bars are mounted in the rig.
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  The rings will be on one side, the GHD machine will be on the
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  other. And a lot like the syndicate
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  workout with the handstand walk obstacle that went back and
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  forth and that was kind of your transition.
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  This is the same format and it's actually how they did the
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  original workout at the camp too.
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  So this is very, very midline limiting.
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  Friday does have some hanging. It does have squatting.
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  It does have some pressing. There is some interference here
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  with the with the P bar traverse and the muscle up.
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  But ultimately I do think, and this is from me doing it, from
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  testing athletes doing it, it it, it may come down to just
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  midline integrity for sure the P bar, especially if people don't
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  train it in metcons. And I don't think many people
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  are training this movement in workouts unless they're getting
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  close to the CrossFit Games. It is a very different stimulus.
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  I think the best ring muscle up athletes, especially on the
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  female side, are already at a huge advantage.
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  There is one less per round, so 28 and 24, but these are very,
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  very dense. So the first seven and six are
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  gimmies. They're just kind of a gift.
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  And then after that there's going to be a lot of
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  interference for the other three rounds.
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  Fastest times I think will be sub 8 but I think a lot of
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  people are going to end up in that 9 to 11 minute range.
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  Remember the workouts are exactly the same for the masters
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  division as the individuals. That's going to RIP some old
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  folks up, yeah. And one thing about the P bar
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  traverse, it is just five trips. So the P bars are 6 feet long.
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  So they'll GO-12345, get on the GHD 12345, get back to the ring.
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  So not a down and back is 1, it's just one trip is 1.
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  Do you think people will do a turn around?
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  They are. They are not allowed to
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  pirouette and they're not allowed to go backwards.
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  OK. And I don't think it would help
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  at all to to stay. It would actually make it a lot
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  harder if they did that. I love the P bar traverse.
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  I mean it's only been done what, in your games once?
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  Your competition twice. It was in the games twice,
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  right? It was in the games twice.
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  Yeah, they did. Elizabeth the elevated was the
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  first time we saw it, and then I want to say there was one other
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  time it. Was in 23.
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  Remember Roman was the double unders and the.
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  With the hand over hand pull and that year they did mandate the
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  the half pirouette. So yeah, I mean, it's a cool
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  implement. I know a lot of people were
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  wondering if if I would use it. We did it for a crescendo 2
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  years ago for the teams and it it worked out well.
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  They have them on Rogue. I don't know how how often they
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  sell them. Maybe they're about to sell a
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  few tonight. But yeah, it's a, it's a really,
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  it's a really unique workout and a unique stimulus.
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  If you're able to set it up and do it, I think it's a huge
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  advantage. But even doing it with boxes or
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  with barbells, I think you can still get a similar stimulus out
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  of it. Yeah, this is a cool workout.
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  I really like this. You're going to destroy me?
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  Yeah, very basic and and also to just good to take note G unit
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  obviously gymnastics, so it's GGG.
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  So there's no weight lifting in this?
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  I assume the the line will be on the GHD machines.
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  Oh yeah, tape line on the GHD and actually that's a good, good
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  segue into at about 8:30 tonight, all the athletes will
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  get an athlete packet. It will have all of the workouts
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  and then flow scoring and movement standards for every
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  single workout. So you'll have that tonight, and
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  you'll be responsible for knowing it.
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  Two weeks ahead, Tyler, do you have any other comments on this
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  one before we move on? No, OK.
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  All right, good. All right, Event 3 going into
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  Saturday Hindsight 3020. Let's see, There it is.
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  This one's another long 1/4. Time and then intervals.
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  Yeah, yeah. So four time the 1st 6 minutes
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  20/16 calorie row, 30 burpees over a block 12 inches. 20
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  overhead squats at 100 slash 70. Barbell.
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  Yep, that's is that a barbell? People are going to ask if it's
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  the pill or if it's a dumbbell. It is a barbell.
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  OK, 30/24 Cal Bikerg. Then we'll go into minutes 6
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  through 14. We're going to do the same 4
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  movements. We're going to add 20 box clears
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  at 30/24 and then at 14 to 24 minutes we're going to do all
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  previous five movements and add in 30 pill squats at 100 slash.
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  70 score is the total time in all three of those intervals.
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  Q7 What's box? What's?
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  Box clears just to just to, just to clarify Jr.
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  So if somebody finishes that first part in 4 minutes, they
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  have two minutes to rest and then they can and then they
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  start all over again and say they finish the next one at
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  minute 12. They have two minutes to rest
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  and then they start all over again for and then you just take
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  your three different scores for one total score.
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  Correct. So you start out with a 6 minute
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  interval and you get 1 movement and two minutes added to the
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  next intervals. So let's say your finishing
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  times were 4-6 and eight. Then your total time would be 18
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  minutes. And I know like this looks like
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  very doable, like if you just like words on paper, Oh, I can
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  do that. This workout is disgusting.
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  I think this will be the most pain in a workout.
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  They feel all weakened, man. Maybe I'm wrong.
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  By pushing this at the paces that you're going to have to
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  push it, and then you have to repeat it.
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  The second set of box clears. So.
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  And for Savon, that just means you have to jump over the whole
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  box. Yeah.
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  You're welcome, Steven Tackett. I won't stand for this
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  blasphemy, OK? I am more athletic than any
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  athlete you've ever trained, OK, So I don't care for this.
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  You said something like that again.
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  You're going to get wrenched up real quick.
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  Do it repeatedly. Real quick now listen, I might
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  be out of breath and I have to take a breather, but I actually
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  anyway, the second set of box clears I think are going to be
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  devastating. Yeah.
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  So just some history on this workout.
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  This is based on the 2011 finale which was a AMRAP and then
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  another AMRAP and then for time. Jason and Brooke did a workout
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  that was by far the most painful workout I saw them doing the
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  three-week training camp. It was 3 minute AMRAP rest a
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  minute, 5 minute AMRAP, rest a minute, and then do it for time.
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  Wadapalooza did something similar with the one that they
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  had to adjust because of the rain and they had to change a
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  lot about the workout, but it ended with 100 LB dumbbell
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  snatches. Taylor did it live at Charlotte.
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  It was pretty cool. I don't know if you guys
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  remember that, but this format is based on that 2011 games
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  finale. I think in a workout like this,
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  specifically, AMRAP could be OK just with a few extra calories
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  on the bike or a few extra box clears or whatever.
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  But from a scoring standpoint, me and Tyler talked and it's
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  going to be a lot cleaner and a lot easier, especially in the
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  event of a time cap, which could happen.
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  I don't think it's going to happen very much, but it could
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  happen. We're able to allocate seconds
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  per Rep from the first heat on and it makes it really easy to
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  adjust times for anyone that gets time cap.
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  So if someone were to get time cap, their workout is not over.
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  Their next interval just starts when it's supposed to start and
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  they stop. They let's, let's, let's, let's,
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  let's say that they're at 22 calories on the bike and they
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  have two more to go. They'll stop at 6 minutes,
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  they'll go back to the row and they'll restart again.
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  So they, they, you know, so the, the, the times here, I think are
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  really good as far as the intervals go, like you guys
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  mentioned, the pace that you're going to have to be willing to
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  work at from round one on is aggressive, but it's not at all
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  a Sprint. I think I'll, most of the
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  athletes will be able to go about 90 seconds on the burpee,
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  90 seconds on the bike. And then if you go a minute, a
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  minute on the row and the overhead squat, which is to me
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  very generous, then you have 5 minutes right there.
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  So I don't think this is, this is crazy aggressive.
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  I think some athletes will strategize it a little
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  differently and think, hey, I'm really going to try to make my
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  move on the last round. And there may be some that are
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  like, Hey, I'm going to RIP the first one and just try to get a
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  little bit of a cushion. That way if I slow down a little
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  on the next two, my total time is still really good.
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  So it it'll be cool. I think this layout too, is the
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  best of the weekend. These guys have seen the
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  drawings, but the layout on the floor is going to look awesome
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  and you'll be able to see the athletes race.
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  Everything will be pretty close together.
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  There'll be a little bit of a progression where they'll do 10
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  overhead squats, walk 2 feet, 10 more.
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  They'll do the same thing with the pill squats at the end of
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  the workout. So if they want to hold on to
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  all 30, they'll be able to do that.
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  And also Wilson is going to come down from well, now Ohio has
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  moved. He is the concept two guy.
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  We are going to connect all the bikers.
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  So if you're watching on the live stream or if you have a
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  link and you're watching on your phone there at the competition,
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  you'll be able to see all six athletes Cal per hour paces and
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  you'll get to you'll get to see them move through because they
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  do the bike three times and they end the first one on the bike.
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  I think it would be really good from a storytelling standpoint
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  not to just wait for a hand to go in the air for the for five
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  more cows to go. So.
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  That's awesome. Yeah.
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  Here's Jesus. Casta Casta Lejo.
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  Yeho. Casta Lejo, Dollar 99.
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  We did that today. Is that?
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  Yeah. It was a really like a similar,
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  we did like a partner version kind of of this workout today,
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  knowing that these were going to come out tonight and they did a,
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  they did a good job executing and I think everyone now knows
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  what it's going to feel like at the end of the day.
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  This is, this is the base capacity.
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  What's your engine like? And it's a leg stamina test.
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  It's not anything else. Anyone who thinks it's anything
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  else is incorrect. It's got 2 machines in it.
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  I think the bike is going to be pretty relevant for a lot of
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  athletes, but I think for most athletes, it may just be a
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  burpee workout. Those 90 burpees might be the
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  difference maker. Lots of squatting right?
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  There's there's still 90 squats total, so they do matter and the
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  legs will burn. For some athletes, those clears
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  may be it. Something worth noting, the box
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  clears are using the stackable rogue plyo boxes, so the depth.
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  The depth is a lot more than a regular wooden box.
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  They will not be on wooden boxes.
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  Each athlete will have two plyo boxes pushed together, so your
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  feet won't be able to go around the outside of it or anything
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  like that. It's a true jump all the way
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  over and coming off that bike, it's not going to be easy for a
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  lot of athletes. So what's the depth on the on
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  the on the jump? You can look up the you can look
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  up the specs, but I think it's I think it's 20.
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  I want to say it's 26 inches. We can look it up on Rogue.
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  It's the stackable. If you just punch in foam,
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  they'll come up. I tested this workout for Jr.
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  It was he. It was unrequested, but.
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  I I remember asking Jr. hey, do you need me to test any of the
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  workouts? Because I did the year previous
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  and he goes, he goes well, I'm, you know, Jason tested him.
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  So you know, you're, I think he's, I think it's probably OK.
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  And I was like, OK, that sounds. Good anybody at home I would
• 20:44
  urge you to do this workout. It's it's really it's it's crazy
• 20:47
  interesting. It's really fun.
• 20:49
  Those box jump overs or the box clears are it's whole.
• 20:54
  It's a whole different game O28 so that.
• 20:58
  Yeah. So if you so if you think about
• 21:00
  a wooden plyo box, I'm pretty sure if you were jumping over
• 21:03
  the 30, that would be the 20 inch side that you were jumping
• 21:07
  over, right. So I mean, this is this is
• 21:10
  substantial. Yeah.
• 21:10
  I mean, it's a it's some people be taking running starts and
• 21:14
  that's OK like but it I do think again, it's all legs and lungs.
• 21:18
  The whole workout is legs and lungs and this will only add to
• 21:22
  it and maybe just make you wait a second before you pick up the
• 21:26
  pill at the end. John will just rebound it 20
• 21:29
  back and forth. I'm interested to see how fast.
• 21:32
  I bet go rebound like 10. I think people will.
• 21:37
  I think people will still will do this.
• 21:39
  Moving in about a minute. That's crazy.
• 21:41
  Yeah, that are that are maybe taller or just a little
• 21:44
  springier, you know, a lot of athletes like someone you could
• 21:47
  just think of like. Woundner, Panchick.
• 21:50
  Sure. Gee, like anyone that's just
• 21:52
  really, really switchy, really plyometric.
• 21:55
  Yeah, yeah. So, Yep.
• 21:59
  But this is, this is the long workout I think for even for the
• 22:02
  fastest people you know, it's probably, it's probably 19 to 20
• 22:09
  minutes total time. Would you say would you say that
• 22:13
  this is like for because people can't do this at home and like
• 22:16
  scale it in however way you need to scale it?
• 22:19
  I I would say that the fitter you are, the more painful this
• 22:22
  workout is. Well, yeah, for sure.
• 22:26
  I mean it, you have to be pretty fit to even get in under these
• 22:30
  intervals for sure. Yeah, it's I was close if not
• 22:36
  over a couple times. I just let it ride a few times
• 22:39
  or once. Close it.
• 22:42
  Not over. Yeah, so you know there's. 3
• 22:44
  intervals, a couple. Times much to much to Sevon's
• 22:48
  delight, this is the one and only workout where you'll see a
• 22:51
  machine in all six events. So.
• 22:53
  Oh. Hell yeah, yeah.
• 22:55
  Just threw threw two event, threw 2 machines in there one
• 22:57
  time and. I've gone back and forth talking
• 23:00
  with Jr. about like if people will cap.
• 23:03
  We just been talking about the scoring portion and the longer I
• 23:06
  think about it, I don't think like if you cap your like if you
• 23:10
  cap in the first round, you're going to get close the rest of
• 23:13
  the time. But I think most athletes will
• 23:16
  be fine. They'll get a minute ish.
• 23:19
  I wouldn't do the second round if you cap in the first round
• 23:22
  because your time can only be 8 minutes.
• 23:25
  So like straight up take it off and then do the last round as
• 23:28
  fast as you can. If you get captain, you're not
• 23:31
  gonna make the cap. You're not going to make the cap
• 23:34
  in the second round if you get captain the. 1st So you're just
• 23:36
  getting, you're just getting bonked.
• 23:38
  Well, you're already it doesn't matter.
• 23:39
  You're gonna get captain the second round.
• 23:41
  If you get captain the first round, no shot, you make it the
• 23:44
  second one, you know what I'm saying?
• 23:47
  So you might as well just take it off and then blitz the third
• 23:49
  one. Unless you're good at box
• 23:50
  clears, I could see you like really getting through those
• 23:53
  pretty switch. You're already roasted, there's
• 23:55
  no getting through a quick. You got capped in the first one.
• 23:59
  You know, the best case you had is since you can finish in 7
• 24:02
  minutes, if you could repeat your performance.
• 24:05
  Yeah. So yeah, that would.
• 24:07
  Be I don't think people will get capped.
• 24:09
  I don't think I think the people at this competition are are fit
• 24:11
  enough. Like it's not.
• 24:13
  I think you're, you're under overestimating the bottom of the
• 24:16
  field. I think you're going to see some
• 24:21
  people Day 2 in the morning. They get to that second one and
• 24:26
  they're like, Oh no. Tyler, you did it.
• 24:28
  What was your time in the first interval?
• 24:30
  Like 4 minutes. So if Tyler no.
• 24:33
  No, no, I'm sorry. 6 minutes. So if Tyler can make it in 6
• 24:38
  minutes, they are all devastatingly more fit than him,
• 24:41
  yeah. What was your second round?
• 24:43
  That doesn't matter. They're more fit than he is.
• 24:45
  I'm. Not saying they're going to get
• 24:47
  capped in the first one. I got to the box junk clears.
• 24:50
  Sorry, I'm trying to get that terminology right.
• 24:52
  Got to the box clears with two. Minutes left, so another 6
• 24:57
  minutes. Yeah, I basically just came out
• 24:59
  the same speed. Dude, they're chilling then,
• 25:01
  man, they're going to be fine. Yeah, they're.
• 25:04
  Going to be fine, sure. And if they're not fine, I'll
• 25:07
  tell you what, if you get capped and you're doing crash, you
• 25:12
  shouldn't do crash again because like you're not good enough for
• 25:15
  this competition. If you get capped in this
• 25:17
  workout, it's a disgrace and you shouldn't be there.
• 25:20
  And you're the next Kale Layman. Yeah, again, I think it's I, I,
• 25:23
  I think for most people it's, it's burpee speed deterioration.
• 25:27
  And you know, if you start out at a 1600 on the bike, I mean,
• 25:31
  chances are you're not holding that the rest of the time.
• 25:33
  So unless strategically you're just going to try to RIP the
• 25:36
  first round, you need to be, you know, somewhere between 12 and
• 25:39
  14 where you're getting off in about 90 seconds and you're able
• 25:43
  to go right into the bots clears.
• 25:45
  You're adding two minutes with one movement.
• 25:48
  The 30 pill squats in my estimation, are substantially
• 25:53
  easier across the board than the 20 bots clears.
• 25:55
  So I I really think if someone caps, it might be in the second
• 25:58
  interval but not in the last interval.
• 26:00
  But we'll see. Yeah, I I think come race day
• 26:04
  though. We'll see.
• 26:06
  Everything's going to be super, super like.
• 26:09
  Chills on. On Saturday.
• 26:10
  Well, they should. Then they're dumb.
• 26:13
  Then you shouldn't be there because you're not smart enough
• 26:15
  to work out. Go bang your head in the wall
• 26:18
  somewhere else. Sign up for JY Barbell if you
• 26:21
  want the best coaching next workout we.
• 26:27
  Got We got to do some housekeeping here.
• 26:29
  Lee Frazier 999 Feeling extremely inadequate right now,
• 26:34
  but this will be fun to watch. Try testing them.
• 26:37
  I think your donation is extremely adequate.
• 26:40
  Very, very. So thank you, Lee.
• 26:43
  All right, Event 4. Let's see.
• 26:49
  I'm not referring to me and Tyler, by the way.
• 26:51
  The people who are actually at the competition, me and Tyler,
• 26:53
  are allowed to get capped. We're not as fit.
• 26:57
  Event 4, the llama. It's coming right up.
• 27:02
  The Yammer. This I it's not my favorite
• 27:07
  event, but I love this event. 4 time 50 foot drag sled drag 410
• 27:13
  slash 320 + 200 slash 150 Are you are you carrying the kettle
• 27:20
  bells? Yeah, So I'll, I'll actually
• 27:22
  just kind of go through this one and make sense.
• 27:24
  If you guys can envision A turf that's about 20 yards long.
• 27:28
  On one end, do you have kettle bells, On the other end do you
• 27:30
  have sandbags with a sled? 321 go.
• 27:33
  You have a sled. It has straps on both sides.
• 27:38
  You have a 200A-150 and A-100 if you're a male.
• 27:44
  You take the 200. You put it on top of the sled
• 27:46
  with seven plates already. You put the straps behind you
• 27:51
  and you lean forward and you drag 50 feet.
• 27:54
  You put the straps down. You do 9 kettlebell deadlifts at
• 27:57
  1:50, you drag the sled back. You remove the 200.
• 28:02
  You put on the 1:50 so the sled gets lighter.
• 28:04
  You drag back to the kettle bells.
• 28:05
  You do 15, You drag back to the sandbags.
• 28:09
  You unload the 1:50, You put on the 100, You drag down to the
• 28:12
  kettle bells, You do 21 deadlifts, You drag back to the
• 28:16
  sandbags. Done.
• 28:18
  So it's definitely modelled after the alpaca.
• 28:22
  This workout originally and the workout Brooke and Jason did, it
• 28:26
  had sled push and then reverse drag.
• 28:29
  So that's a little different. And their workout they use the
• 28:32
  sandbags that did sandbag over the yoke.
• 28:36
  I really liked that because you were taking the sandbag down
• 28:38
  there to do work and then you were bringing it back.
• 28:41
  But as we'll see later in the competition, there is another
• 28:45
  clean and jerk type movement and with the heavy kettle bells,
• 28:49
  this really fit. Obviously the alpaca did also
• 28:52
  use kettle bells. It was kettlebell hang cleaning
• 28:54
  jerk. And when I tested this, I knew
• 28:57
  that this was the combination because the four drag is all
• 29:01
  hamstrings and glutes and the kettlebell deadlift is all
• 29:04
  hamstring and glute. And it's the ascending Rep
• 29:07
  scheme with the deadlift coupled with the descending loading on
• 29:11
  the sled is like, it's awesome. I think this is the most painful
• 29:15
  workout of the weekend. Yeah, this.
• 29:17
  And it's going to it's going to rock some people.
• 29:21
  That sounds fantastic, Jr. This was, But I was.
• 29:25
  This was the one I was most looking forward to until you
• 29:28
  said that. Hey, man, mass move, mass moves
• 29:30
  mass. I'm I'm 180 moving that and
• 29:32
  you're whatever you weigh, moving it like it's going to be
• 29:34
  a big difference. You might you, you might enjoy
• 29:37
  it a lot more than I did. But yeah, I mean, there's
• 29:40
  there's definitely some fitness here.
• 29:42
  But the end of the day, this this is a heavy workout.
• 29:44
  This is the second heavy workout for sure of the of the
• 29:48
  competition, first one being the front squat.
• 29:50
  I love this. It's it's just it's just a
• 29:52
  workhorse workout and it's simple in design.
• 29:58
  This is this is the kind of thing I would want to see at the
• 29:59
  games for. Sure.
• 30:00
  Yeah. And I mean, it's it's
• 30:02
  weightlifting, weightlifting, right.
• 30:04
  We already had a gymnastics only workout.
• 30:06
  Now we have a weightlifting workout.
• 30:07
  So it's it should balance that one out pretty well.
• 30:09
  This one's going to be cool to watch the the procession on the
• 30:12
  on the field back and forth. You think you, I think it's,
• 30:16
  it's just going to be fun to do, Tyler.
• 30:19
  Yeah, I I've never done a workout with seven plates on a
• 30:23
  on a sled drag before. I have no idea what like
• 30:26
  training for this is weird because it's like the the turf
• 30:29
  has its own sort of feel, but. You can't.
• 30:32
  You just kind of let it rock when you get there.
• 30:35
  Yeah, when I get there, it's just be like.
• 30:37
  OK, sleds. Sleds will be all brand new
• 30:40
  out-of-the-box. So no, no rust or anything on
• 30:43
  the bottom. Like, I know people are just
• 30:44
  Kiefer's probably right now being like, if he's using the
• 30:47
  same sleds that he's used in the last five years, some of those
• 30:50
  sleds are going to be different. So calm down.
• 30:52
  I got you. I've never had an issue pulling
• 30:55
  or pushing a sled like my feet slipping at at at J Rs gym.
• 31:00
  No, it's it's, that's not going to be an issue.
• 31:04
  I just think some people are going to get it moving and then
• 31:07
  they're going to fly and then other people are not, and that's
• 31:10
  just kind of how it is. Do you just have 150 LB kettle
• 31:14
  bells just laying around your? Just laying, just laying around.
• 31:16
  That's. Crazy the standard on so it's a
• 31:19
  one single 150 LB kettle bell or two.
• 31:24
  No, it's two, dude. Yeah.
• 31:25
  It's 222. One 50s.
• 31:28
  Yes, and that's why, that's why there's s s.
• 31:31
  You thought it was just. You thought it was just like a
• 31:32
  sumo single kettle bell. Yeah, I was like, how what's the
• 31:36
  standards going to be like on this?
• 31:38
  I totally deleted the S in my brain.
• 31:40
  I just saw 150 and stopped there.
• 31:43
  But yeah, so I was like, what the Hell's the standard going to
• 31:45
  be on that? Yeah, that's the kettlebell
• 31:47
  deadlifts in that sort of that position's weird.
• 31:52
  So yeah, I think the girls will be interesting.
• 31:55
  Like do they just get some of them just get stopped?
• 32:00
  No, I mean. The way it's relative.
• 32:03
  It's it's relative. 2 less plates is is relative.
• 32:06
  And I mean, the classes do so much heavy sled work, pushing,
• 32:10
  pulling, dragging, reverse dragging that like gin pop
• 32:13
  people. I know that like if it's eight
• 32:15
  at six, if it's six, it's four, If it's seven, it's 5.
• 32:18
  And that's kind of just how it should be.
• 32:20
  Yeah. The the sandbag that you put on
• 32:23
  there, do you take the 200 off and put the 1:50 on?
• 32:28
  For round two, yeah, OK. I didn't know if you just, I,
• 32:33
  I'm sorry if you specified that earlier, but like if you put the
• 32:36
  150 on it and like you ended up with three sandbags.
• 32:40
  No, just think of the, just think of the plates like a
• 32:42
  platform and they're just loading it on top.
• 32:45
  Yeah, they're not going to fall off or anything.
• 32:47
  It's yeah, it'll be, it'll be really clean and it'll look good
• 32:51
  and it'll be really easy to tell who's winning.
• 32:53
  And what I think the race is going to be though, is on that
• 32:55
  last round when the sled is the lightest, but they've already
• 32:59
  done 21. I'm sorry, they've already done
• 33:02
  24 of the deadlifts. The round of 21, all the people
• 33:05
  I had test other than me because I, I honestly was just testing
• 33:08
  it for the time cap for the, for the masters, the really, really
• 33:12
  strong dead lifters, like guys with £600 dead lifters at the
• 33:14
  gym. We're breaking up the, the round
• 33:17
  of 21 two and three times. Like I was shocked at how how
• 33:20
  much just nasty leg fatigue there was so.
• 33:25
  And not a loud straps, correct wraps.
• 33:30
  They're not allowed to use grips on the.
• 33:32
  Grips. Yeah, that's what I'm.
• 33:33
  Yeah, that's what I'm asking. Yes, you do have to hold the
• 33:36
  strap behind you. They're short straps.
• 33:41
  Yeah, so they you won't even be able to drape them over your
• 33:43
  shoulder, but that's not allowed anyway.
• 33:45
  So you have to. Your arms have to be trailing
• 33:47
  the body, the sled has to be behind you.
• 33:51
  That's different. Very different, yeah.
• 33:53
  And I've actually, I've actually never done that sled variation
• 33:55
  before. I've done hand over hand, I've
• 33:57
  done reverse drag with the straps, I've done pushing a lot.
• 34:00
  But again, this one is like all posterior chain for sure.
• 34:05
  What? What do you think the fastest
• 34:07
  times will be on this? 7:00-ish maybe, maybe, maybe
• 34:11
  under, maybe under 7 for the really big boys.
• 34:15
  That makes OK. I don't know how the
• 34:19
  distribution will be. It's a, it's a while.
• 34:24
  We had very generous caps up to this point.
• 34:27
  In my opinion, they're starting to get more aggressive.
• 34:30
  So like, this is one of the more aggressive time caps for sure,
• 34:33
  John. Are you going to be able to
• 34:35
  manage those last 21 Kellerbell deadlifts I'm.
• 34:38
  Going to RIP this one apart 'cause I, I, I know, I know
• 34:40
  what's coming. I know what's coming and I'm
• 34:43
  going to straight Bronerslaw Blinkovicz, what's coming.
• 34:46
  So, and we're about to we're about to get to it.
• 34:49
  But this one I'm going to say Tyler, I want to know my peace
• 34:52
  score of against everybody else doing it.
• 34:54
  So on this one in particular. That's the way we're going to
• 34:57
  score it is the field is going to have their distributions.
• 35:01
  You'll be you'll be able to watch John and I do it.
• 35:04
  So we'll we'll serve as the Bill Murray lane, so to speak, and
• 35:07
  then you'll know our score. You'll watch the the actual
• 35:11
  athletes go and then our scores will will work off an equation
• 35:15
  of those athletes and we'll. See, you'll just see us like
• 35:17
  tick down, tick down, tick down. How far negative will go?
• 35:21
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how that's how that's
• 35:23
  gonna. Will you be?
• 35:24
  Will any of you be gorgeous Caravis from last year's Rogue?
• 35:28
  Hopefully to God. Well, he's got a 51,000.
• 35:34
  It's like the -1 -, 2 - 3 thing that he does whenever.
• 35:37
  Yeah, he does. We're going wrong.
• 35:39
  You're going on on the field too.
• 35:42
  No, no, no, not on the field, just on us.
• 35:44
  You can't, dude. That's no.
• 35:46
  I want to see how far I how far we are from them.
• 35:49
  We're just going to be -1 and -2 the.
• 35:51
  Whole no, we'll be like negative.
• 35:52
  We're going to be the last one. So most of these, this is the
• 35:55
  one though, that I want to like, I'm going to put everything into
• 35:58
  this. And then the next one, I don't
• 36:00
  care. I'm going to let you just, I'm
• 36:02
  going to let you put everything into the next one and I'm just
• 36:04
  going to be happy to be there. Well, so far, like, I mean, just
• 36:09
  as a broad generalization, this is by far the, this is the
• 36:11
  heaviest Crucible I've ever programmed for sure.
• 36:14
  You know, we're not even the last.
• 36:15
  One, yeah, Brooke and Jason are both really strong.
• 36:18
  So you know that maybe that that happened that way or I realized
• 36:22
  my shortcomings as a programmer as being extremely biased toward
• 36:26
  high skill movements most of the time and just having heavy
• 36:29
  elements kind of sprinkled in, not having one Rep maxes, all
• 36:33
  that kind of stuff. But up until this point, you
• 36:36
  know, we had the ring muscle up workout.
• 36:38
  So gymnastics obviously decides that everyone's legs are going
• 36:42
  to be trashed. I mean, Saturday's all legs and
• 36:46
  now we're going to now we're going to see who can push and
• 36:49
  pull. So that's that's kind of the the
• 36:52
  way it was laid out was specifically for that reason.
• 36:55
  I knew everyone would be pretty messed up after Saturday.
• 36:57
  So Sunday gets a little cuter do.
• 37:01
  You want to get. Go ahead, Tyler.
• 37:02
  I should note for the scoring Jr. and I wanted to adjust it a
• 37:08
  little bit this year. There will be no negatives in
• 37:10
  crash this year. So last place will be 0 and then
• 37:14
  one and then two and then 3 instead of zero -1. -2 it'll be.
• 37:19
  I don't want to go through the calculation, but it's
• 37:20
  essentially the same type of calculation but it it just
• 37:23
  limits down to 0. OK.
• 37:25
  So we'll just be chilling at 0. That's fine, yeah.
• 37:32
  All right, let's see, going on to Sunday.
• 37:37
  And, and, and here we here we go.
• 37:39
  I'm on Tyler, talk about this one because I don't have much to
• 37:42
  say. Here we go.
• 37:45
  Do it. Pull it up.
• 37:46
  This is purgatory. This worked out so much.
• 37:51
  Run 400 meters. Pull one, Run 400.
• 37:54
  Pull two. Run 400 meters.
• 37:56
  Pull three. Run 400 meters.
• 38:01
  But what are you doing? Doing some some climbing.
• 38:06
  So it's 5 rope climbs, 4 rope climbs for the girls with a cut
• 38:10
  rope, and it's 2 feet cut Jr. Yeah, I think let's let's let's
• 38:15
  read what's above it first. The order of completion for the
• 38:17
  pulled variations is at the athletes discretion.
• 38:20
  And yeah, the cut rope is to a true 15 foot like it always is a
• 38:24
  crash. But these ropes will be cut 6
• 38:27
  feet off the ground, not 5 feet off the ground.
• 38:31
  And then pegboard descent and then regular rope climbs.
• 38:35
  And what that means, what the above thing means is they can
• 38:38
  pick what order they want to do. So if they want to do the
• 38:41
  pegboards first, they can do the pegboards first.
• 38:43
  They want to do the rope climbs first, they can do that.
• 38:45
  You can pick which order you want to do.
• 38:47
  I can't imagine anybody not saving the rope climbs for last
• 38:51
  just because it's the easiest version, but it'll be
• 38:55
  interesting to see who chooses what for the cut.
• 38:57
  The cut ropes of the pegboards. Yeah, well, because, you know, a
• 39:01
  lot of people, I mean, it shouldn't.
• 39:02
  It's been 10 years since it's been in competition, but
• 39:05
  pegboard still isn't trained a lot for for athletes unless it's
• 39:09
  like in a skill setting. This is an extremely aerobic
• 39:12
  setting with a lot of interference.
• 39:14
  So let's just say most people are like, hey, well, I need to
• 39:18
  do the pegboard fresh. It's the slowest 1 and it's the
• 39:21
  most time under tension. And if I do it second, I'm going
• 39:24
  to be blown up. OK, cool.
• 39:27
  Well, you get to use your legs on a pegboard.
• 39:29
  You, you, you're doing a lot of pulls on that cut rope before
• 39:33
  you can even start to use your legs.
• 39:34
  So in my opinion, the cut rope climb will be the hardest
• 39:43
  movement based on athlete feedback after they do the
• 39:46
  workout because most of them will do it second now.
• 39:49
  If you do it first now you've just made the pegboards a lot
• 39:52
  harder. So it's just pick your poison.
• 39:54
  And you're right, I think anyone that's looking at this workout
• 39:57
  that knows that they can finish it and the time cap is extremely
• 40:00
  generous. Extremely fastest times will be
• 40:03
  like 11 to 13 ish minutes. It's for people that maybe have
• 40:10
  to do 1 pegboard at a time or one cut rope climb every 30 to
• 40:13
  45 seconds which might be the case.
• 40:17
  You can make this workout hurt a lot.
• 40:19
  When I tested this workout, I was hurting the whole time if
• 40:24
  you. Can do the first two pulls fast
• 40:27
  and you're not going to just chill on the run.
• 40:29
  All you have standing between you and finishing is 800 meters
• 40:32
  of running and five or four rope climbs as fast as you can do
• 40:35
  them. And that is awful.
• 40:37
  So once you get past pull 2, it is like I have to race whoever
• 40:42
  I'm going against. So there's a lot of levels here,
• 40:45
  just like event one kind of was like that, right?
• 40:47
  Some people can push the pace, some people can't with a heavy
• 40:49
  barbell. There are there are levels in
• 40:51
  this workout. And if you're specifically a
• 40:53
  female that's a good upper body puller, you already know.
• 40:57
  You're probably, you know, you already know you're a top ten
• 41:00
  'cause there's such a discrepancy with some guys too.
• 41:04
  If you know you're already one of those people, it's like how
• 41:07
  fast can you make yourself run and just not be so out of breath
• 41:12
  on the pulling. You know you're most people's
• 41:14
  heart rate is going to come down, especially on the rope
• 41:16
  climb because there's not all that time under tension on the
• 41:19
  pegboard. If you're doing more than one at
• 41:21
  a time, your heart rate can creep up because you're just
• 41:23
  hanging there and you're still holding all that tension.
• 41:26
  When, when I did the workout and when two other guys at the gym
• 41:29
  tested the workout, they went cut rope, then pegboard and then
• 41:36
  regular. And one of the guys when I'm
• 41:38
  broken on the pegboard, the other guy did I think 32.
• 41:41
  When I did it, I went pegboard first, then cut rope, then
• 41:45
  regular. And our times were really
• 41:47
  similar. So I again, I think it's like
• 41:49
  for the best people, it's going to be a really cool race.
• 41:52
  And if you see anyone run to the regular rope before the last
• 41:57
  poll, it's because that they know they cannot do the work
• 42:02
  required on one of the other polls and they know they're
• 42:04
  going to get capped. So they just want to get as much
• 42:06
  done as possible, which I don't really see happening even with
• 42:09
  the masters honestly. Is that why you did you get to
• 42:13
  pick the order? Yeah, I did.
• 42:15
  I, I, I went back and forth on that a lot.
• 42:18
  Remember, these are based on Jason and Brooke's workouts.
• 42:21
  And this is based on the one, if you watch Will's YouTube video
• 42:24
  at the track where they did a 400 meter run and they had to
• 42:27
  get a searcher carry a power pin and farmers carry down the field
• 42:33
  and they got to pick the order that they did it in.
• 42:35
  So I knew that people had probably watched that video.
• 42:38
  I like the choose your own adventures.
• 42:41
  Like, I mean, strongman's fear was choose your own adventure
• 42:43
  and that's one of the coolest workouts ever at the crossword
• 42:45
  games. So I, I really wanted a way to
• 42:48
  try to incorporate that. And I think that monostructural
• 42:52
  gymnastics couplet isn't done very often.
• 42:56
  And I just think like, you know, muscle up biathlon, that's one
• 42:59
  of the more memorable workouts and that's what that is.
• 43:01
  So I'm really excited to do this one.
• 43:03
  It's only a mile of running. Typically I do a lot more
• 43:06
  running volume. So I thought it was probably
• 43:08
  time to bottle that back a little bit.
• 43:10
  It's. Going to be fast run though.
• 43:15
  Do. And it is out.
• 43:16
  It is outdoor run. Sorry, John.
• 43:18
  Yeah. Do you think this will be the
• 43:20
  most variation in P score this workout?
• 43:27
  I think it might be the finale, but because the time cap is more
• 43:32
  spread out here, that's a question for Tyler.
• 43:36
  I don't I don't know how the math works.
• 43:38
  I think it all is still relative.
• 43:39
  Like in a 6 minute workout, if you have a three minute finisher
• 43:42
  and someone who finishes 2 rounds, you're still going to
• 43:44
  see that same spread 18 minute cap if someone finishes in in
• 43:48
  12. But I do think most of the the
• 43:50
  females will be mid teens here because I went back and forth a
• 43:55
  lot. Should it be threes for the
• 43:57
  females or should it be fours? And while I think time wise,
• 44:01
  because the runs will be a little slower too, I do think if
• 44:05
  I wanted the times to be the exact same, threes would have
• 44:08
  been the way to go. But I just didn't like the
• 44:09
  separation value. And I think a lot of these women
• 44:12
  are, I mean, we saw Reset Syndicate, we saw Kyra
• 44:15
  Syndicate, They're really, really good upper body pullers
• 44:19
  coming. And so I want to let them
• 44:21
  separate, you know? And that's what that's that's
• 44:24
  what it all comes down to a separation value.
• 44:26
  And in each piece there's a huge separation value.
• 44:29
  Now in the top, it's going to be close, I think, but you'll I
• 44:32
  think you'll see a big drop off whenever they're not able to do
• 44:36
  the cut rope climbs very well, whenever they're not able to do
• 44:38
  the pegboard descents very well. And then like another drop off
• 44:42
  for if you're just not a good runner.
• 44:45
  But let's get to the last workout and then I'll.
• 44:48
  Is John going to? Is John going to beat the time
• 44:49
  cap on this one? No.
• 44:51
  John, you should be able to beat the time cap.
• 44:54
  On this no shot dude. I'm no y'all dude.
• 44:58
  If you're running a 12 minute mile, this gives you 6 minutes.
• 45:00
  Not about the running pieces. It's not about the running.
• 45:06
  There's no shot. OK.
• 45:09
  I'm, I'm, I'm doing the cut rope 1st and I'm doing the regular
• 45:12
  rope climb 2nd and then we're just going to do as many.
• 45:15
  We're just going to, we're just going to have fun with the peg
• 45:18
  boards when we're there. And J Rs theory of what what
• 45:21
  order to do is coming true. No, I just don't think I'm going
• 45:25
  to. I think I'm going to blow up and
• 45:27
  then I'm just going to be sitting there looking at
• 45:29
  something and at least I'll only have, you know, 5 reps left
• 45:33
  while Tyler like, you know, just beats me.
• 45:35
  Like that's fine. Can you bring the boxes back out
• 45:39
  So so John has a seat on Sunday? Yeah, that's, that's no, I just
• 45:49
  like no, yeah, I just don't think.
• 45:53
  I just think, I just don't think I have the upper body pulling
• 45:56
  for to to be OK. I think I'll blow up.
• 46:00
  I don't know. We'll feel it out.
• 46:01
  The same confidence John had when he saw that sled workout.
• 46:04
  This is just the inverse of that, which is cool. 100% Hey,
• 46:10
  hey, we, we'll get there. We get there and I'm not do it.
• 46:12
  If I feel like I'm I'm great. John's going to be feeling,
• 46:15
  John's going to be just looking forward to the finale anyway,
• 46:17
  so. John has one of these workouts
• 46:20
  like in the in the so in the gymnastics piece in in workout
• 46:25
  two, you're going to be fine. You don't love it, but you'll be
• 46:28
  fine. But I have two workouts where
• 46:32
  I'm like cool, so this is over. Listen, this last workout I'm
• 46:39
  going to make a personal challenge to Colton Mertens.
• 46:44
  Yeah, and that is? Make it first, make it first and
• 46:48
  then show the workout. What's the challenge?
• 46:51
  Just that. Just that you want to beat him.
• 46:52
  One-on-one. John plus one minute or or
• 46:56
  Colton plus one minute. John takes it.
• 46:58
  Oh, you know, we can heat one at the the this next one if you
• 47:03
  want to. Yeah.
• 47:04
  All right. How much does Colton beat me?
• 47:06
  I'm going to be filthy this this last workout, but I don't have a
• 47:11
  sled, so that could be a problem.
• 47:13
  But. Yeah, last one prestents, 6
• 47:19
  rounds for time 4 strict parallel handstand push ups with
• 47:22
  A5 and three inch deficit, 2 finisher flips at 600 slash, 458
• 47:28
  minutes to complete that work. Yeah, that, that, that is a flip
• 47:32
  sled. I just am sour that I haven't
• 47:34
  been able to get a sponsorship out of them.
• 47:35
  So that that that is the model finisher is the model that we
• 47:42
  use here at Crash. So yeah, I mean, this workout
• 47:44
  super simple. It's going to be awesome to
• 47:46
  watch as a finale. If you're someone that can do
• 47:50
  the strict handstand push ups unbroken, I mean, you're already
• 47:53
  probably finishing top three or four.
• 47:55
  If you're someone that can also handle the load on the flip
• 47:58
  slid, which is really heavy. I mean, you're trying to win the
• 48:02
  workout. I think this is a really cool
• 48:05
  workout because based on anthropometrics, taller athletes
• 48:11
  are just better at the pig. They're just better at the flip
• 48:13
  sled. And it's just because of
• 48:15
  leverage, right, and physics. And usually those people are not
• 48:20
  the best at pressing strict upside down.
• 48:22
  So you have the juxtaposition between the body types and the
• 48:26
  two movements. And I mean, the workout is
• 48:30
  called precedence and it's extremely dense pressing.
• 48:34
  If you're able to handle the flip sled, I mean it's 1520
• 48:37
  seconds and you're right back on the wall.
• 48:39
  I watched I mean I did the workout, but the the guys I
• 48:42
  watched to try to get fast times on all agreed.
• 48:47
  You know what I shouldn't have been so aggressive on the 1st 3
• 48:49
  rounds because five and three is the deepest deficit I've ever
• 48:53
  seen on this movement. I I've only seen deficit strict
• 48:57
  at rogue twice and I think it was four and two and the volume
• 49:00
  was a little more. I think it was 27 reps like 3
• 49:02
  rounds of 21 and 9 on the 100 LB dumbbell snatch.
• 49:06
  But these, the turnover here is so much faster for 24 reps, so
• 49:11
  much faster than 21 dumbbell snatches.
• 49:13
  So it's going to be really cool. Like I said, a lot of pulling in
• 49:18
  the workout before pressing here.
• 49:21
  But also, I know for a fact that there are men and women who can
• 49:25
  hammer that gymnastics movement that will get destroyed on the
• 49:29
  flip sled because it is heavy. It's the heaviest flip sled I
• 49:34
  think we've ever seen, right? I don't think we've seen a flip
• 49:36
  set that's 600. And 4:50, no, I mean, I think, I
• 49:39
  think, I think the year Wadapalooza did it where Taylor
• 49:43
  finished second on the interval workout, I think was like 545 or
• 49:46
  565. Like with an actual flip sled.
• 49:50
  The heaviest I've ever done I think is like 500 lbs.
• 49:54
  So the teams a couple years ago at Crescendo, I think it was
• 49:59
  close. I think it was like 565, but the
• 50:02
  individuals have never done more than I want to say 500 low fives
• 50:07
  so. What are?
• 50:09
  What do you think fastest times will be for this one?
• 50:11
  3:00-ish. Right, right, my time don't make
• 50:16
  right. And and I think there's going to
• 50:19
  be people that are for sure know they're capping on the strict
• 50:24
  parallel. This is all included in the
• 50:26
  athlete packet, but we'll be using the ballistic blocks for
• 50:29
  the men, which is exactly 5 inches, so they'll just go down
• 50:32
  to that and then the women will have a pad on top of the
• 50:34
  ballistic blocks. This one I am I There's a
• 50:40
  question if I'm even going to be able to pick the sled up at all.
• 50:43
  I think you can. I think you can.
• 50:45
  It's a it's just one of those, you know, people that have
• 50:48
  access to one of these is huge because it really just isn't the
• 50:51
  same as a heavy sandbag or doing like a heavy hang clean, which
• 50:57
  is essentially what you're doing with the flip sled if you're not
• 50:59
  doing it in one motion. But there are guys that are tall
• 51:01
  with really, really explosive hips.
• 51:03
  I mean, Quentin at the gym when he tested this was just ripping
• 51:07
  the flip sled and it was like, yeah.
• 51:10
  But he's a really, really, really good deadlifter and just
• 51:13
  a really explosive guy. So.
• 51:15
  Yeah. And he's tall.
• 51:17
  He's like 6 foot. He's like 6 foot 2.
• 51:18
  So height matters a lot. Yeah.
• 51:21
  This is one that. Jason, I think would destroy.
• 51:25
  And this is this is kind of a combination between two of the
• 51:28
  workouts that they did. It's more based on the 2021, I
• 51:34
  think it was 5 rounds of 6 and 6405 deadlifts and freestanding
• 51:39
  handstand push ups. Brooke and Jason did 6 rounds of
• 51:42
  five and five deadlift and freestanding handstand push ups.
• 51:46
  And I just wasn't ready to do freestanding yet at the at the
• 51:49
  at a competition. And but I really like that Diane
• 51:53
  pull from the floor and I like the flip sled.
• 51:57
  I didn't use it last year. So yeah, I think this is, I
• 52:03
  think it'd be a good finale to they'll flip 3 rounds in One
• 52:06
  Direction and then flip 3 rounds to the finish.
• 52:09
  And I think any guys that are racing, doing the flip sled at
• 52:12
  the end is pretty fun. Fun way to finish, really easy
• 52:14
  to tell he's winning and all that.
• 52:15
  So. Do you go ahead, Tyler?
• 52:18
  I just wish the flip sled got programmed at more more events.
• 52:21
  Like I'd love to see it at at semifinals.
• 52:23
  It feels like a games level implement, but it's so like it's
• 52:28
  mimicking the tire flip. It is the tire flip and it's
• 52:31
  like that. It's so fundamental.
• 52:35
  Old, I think it's, it's really close to a heavy cleaning jerk.
• 52:38
  And you know, we have, we don't have power cleans, but we have
• 52:44
  squat cleans. It's a similar movement pattern.
• 52:47
  It is a front squat, but ultimately they're still going
• 52:49
  to have to clean it. We have pulling from the floor
• 52:52
  with the kettlebell deadlift, but this movement is like would
• 52:55
  be like doing a 275 clean and jerk.
• 52:58
  Probably yeah, probably would be like that.
• 53:00
  So strict deficit handstand push up with clean and jerk.
• 53:03
  I mean, that's that's pretty it's pretty nasty on the
• 53:05
  shoulders. So see.
• 53:07
  I get the benefits, Ben, 'cause you can put it on the knee and
• 53:09
  then, yeah. Good luck.
• 53:13
  I think you'll be fine, Tyler, because you're very good at
• 53:16
  handstand push ups so that you can kind of just gear up every
• 53:19
  time. And I mean, dude, there there
• 53:20
  there are people that are going to come out and do singles and
• 53:23
  be and still finish should be fine if as long as they're
• 53:25
  disciplined, they'll and get a no Rep on the strict deficit is
• 53:30
  already really detrimental. And last year, you know, we did
• 53:34
  the ballistic blocks with the strict and I made sure to amend
• 53:38
  some of the standards in there, which everyone will see on what
• 53:42
  denote strict and what doesn't. But the I mean, how often do
• 53:46
  people practice strict deficit parallel handstand push ups?
• 53:49
  Not, not often. So for some people it might be
• 53:52
  easier. It's a really, really tricep
• 53:55
  demanding and some people are just really bet a lot better
• 53:59
  with a flat, with a flat hand on the ground.
• 54:01
  So it'll be, it'll be interesting to see who's really
• 54:03
  good at them and who is. It says 24 is a real number.
• 54:06
  I want to specify colt not. Sorry, you're not allowed to
• 54:12
  rest at the bottom, correct? Because Colton did that last.
• 54:16
  Year you, you are not allowed to rest at the bottom.
• 54:18
  No, you have to. You have to change directions
• 54:20
  With no, with with no. Pause.
• 54:24
  So looking through these, obviously you programmed these
• 54:27
  last in 2024. Ish Yeah.
• 54:31
  Yeah, you see. And you see these, just looking
• 54:35
  back at the games of last year, you kind of had to be bombed.
• 54:39
  Like all these things that you program like kind of different,
• 54:41
  unique. We're not part of the 24 games.
• 54:46
  Yeah, I mean, I think that Syndicate really kind of opened
• 54:51
  my eyes to when when you have the responsibility to send
• 54:55
  people to the CrossFit Games, it gets a lot more serious.
• 54:57
  And anything that, like, would bring me direct satisfaction of
• 55:05
  knowing, yeah, I tried that and it just didn't work.
• 55:07
  Or I tried that and ended up being really cool.
• 55:10
  It has to go out the window and it has to be all about the test.
• 55:13
  And I think what's really cool now is that I really appreciate
• 55:17
  the freedom and the creativity that I get to have when I do
• 55:20
  Crucible because it is, in a lot of ways, like, like just an
• 55:25
  expression of like, what is art for me, It's just my creative
• 55:28
  outlet. It's an expensive creative
• 55:31
  outlet because if you want to use stuff, you got to buy it.
• 55:35
  But you know, I mean, I bought those flip sleds over a year and
• 55:39
  now I have them and the classes use them and they're fun.
• 55:41
  So I'll be it was it was worth it for sure to be able to have
• 55:44
  that option yeah. So I agree.
• 55:49
  I would have liked to seen a lot of these workouts at the games,
• 55:52
  but for instance, I thought the 30 full deficit or close to full
• 55:56
  deficit parallel handstand push ups was awesome at the games.
• 55:59
  It hadn't been at the games in a long time.
• 56:02
  And that's what I had originally for this workout, full deficit
• 56:08
  kipping. And I was like, you know what,
• 56:10
  Dave just did that at the games. Why don't I just make it strict?
• 56:13
  Like, why not? We're already doing some strict
• 56:15
  upper body pulling. Why not like so in a way, I
• 56:17
  think it it it probably was good that there wasn't a lot of
• 56:21
  things at the games, but then there also was some things that
• 56:24
  made me kind of pivot a little bit, you know, away and there's
• 56:27
  a fine line. Like a lot of people are going
• 56:29
  to see this programming and be like it's too much like like
• 56:32
  he's trying too hard, like it's not basic enough.
• 56:36
  That's probably true. But like how many of these
• 56:39
  athletes are ever going to get to use P bars in a competition?
• 56:42
  Maybe none. How many are going to get to do
• 56:43
  a heavy sled workout? How many are you going to get to
• 56:45
  use those heavy kettle bells? Probably not unless they make a
• 56:48
  semi final like you know, so I just, that means a lot to me to
• 56:53
  be able to put pegboards in because you never know who's
• 56:57
  awesome at stuff like that because they usually don't get
• 56:59
  to do a competition to show it. You know, I mean, the, the
• 57:03
  coolest thing for me was seeing how many people got good at the
• 57:06
  handstand walk obstacle only to have no handstand walk at
• 57:09
  Crucible. And that's never happened
• 57:11
  before. And nobody thought that we would
• 57:13
  have no handstand walking. And then watching people get
• 57:16
  really good at the trapeze bar muscle UPS online, like people
• 57:19
  make those look really good now 'cause they all just assumed
• 57:21
  that they were going to be in the programming.
• 57:23
  So that that's cool too, just to 'cause now that I know all that
• 57:26
  stuff's on the table, like I've seen enough people do trapeze
• 57:29
  bar muscle up that if I want to program it next year, I will.
• 57:32
  So which is? Which is?
• 57:34
  Pretty cool. This is not to blow smoke up J
• 57:37
  Rs skirt, but. Please don't.
• 57:39
  During during the the games leading up to games and then
• 57:43
  after you heard a lot of bitching from me just saying
• 57:45
  this is all gym shit. Like this is all basic gym shit.
• 57:48
  And it's like this is all in the gym stuff, but there's a unique
• 57:52
  twist on it and it's still testing the same fitness that
• 57:56
  that this is the type of stuff that I wanted to see at the
• 57:59
  games. It's like you can do all of
• 58:00
  these things inside besides the run, but you can just do it on a
• 58:05
  runner. But this is like this.
• 58:07
  These are the type of events I wanted to see at the games.
• 58:10
  I couldn't agree more with Steven.
• 58:12
  Way to way to bring it back. OK, first comment was really
• 58:15
  bad. This one was great.
• 58:16
  OK. People say it's too much, they
• 58:18
  just aren't fit enough to do it. I couldn't, couldn't, couldn't
• 58:21
  agree more. Do you mean too much as in like
• 58:23
  you you made it too gaudy or do you mean like it's too much?
• 58:27
  I think too heavy. Jr.
• 58:33
  I'm sorry, I thought you're talking to John.
• 58:34
  Say it again. No.
• 58:34
  Sorry when when you say people say it's too much, do you mean
• 58:38
  as in a gaudy sense or is like it's too heavy or it's over
• 58:41
  programmed? Like gaudy, like they're too,
• 58:45
  too many, too many, too not tricks, too many, too many.
• 58:50
  Like sexy things. Like why can you just do regular
• 58:53
  toast bar? Why do you got to use the thick
• 58:54
  one? Why couldn't you?
• 58:57
  Why can you do regular deadlifts?
• 58:58
  Why do you got to use kettle bells?
• 58:59
  Why couldn't you do heavy power cleans?
• 59:02
  Why are you doing flip slip like just stuff like that that's.
• 59:05
  Stuff that I and I couldn't agree with Tyler Moore, that
• 59:07
  should be at the games. It should always be just a
• 59:10
  little bit like you're not going to see it in other places.
• 59:15
  That's why I'm, that's why I, that's why I think Rogue is so
• 59:18
  cool, because with everything literally at your fingertips,
• 59:22
  you can always plan on something that either they only make or
• 59:28
  that they have the capability to make.
• 59:30
  And, and I just think that's that's a really cool thing that
• 59:34
  I look forward to about Rogue. Anybody that if anybody bitches
• 59:38
  about the 2 inch toes bar, I'm going to lose my mind.
• 59:40
  I did. So remember for all grips,
• 59:42
  everyone's going to get the Elite HD grips at check in and I
• 59:46
  got those for the athletes for that specifically because it's a
• 59:50
  powder coated bar. It's not a bare steel bar.
• 59:53
  And those grips are perfect for it.
• 59:55
  You don't need chalk. And it's yeah, I mean, if I were
• 59:59
  an athlete, I would 100% use them, especially if you got
• 1:00:03
  really little hands. I really think it can it can
• 1:00:05
  help you out on that workout. So.
• 1:00:07
  Gotcha. John and I are like if.
• 1:00:09
  You want buddy, I'm listening. If you want to practice, if you
• 1:00:13
  want to practice ahead time, you can use the the QR code there.
• 1:00:17
  Go to froggrips.com and code spin saves you 15%.
• 1:00:22
  They're game changers, man. Those were the grips I used this
• 1:00:25
  week when I was training. Dude, I'm excited.
• 1:00:28
  I'm excited Jr. They're like the workouts just
• 1:00:31
  seem really, really fun and I'm excited to do them and I'm then
• 1:00:34
  I'm excited to talk about better people doing them.
• 1:00:40
  I'm excited to watch everyone do them and then really, and then
• 1:00:43
  say I hate Peace Corps afterwards, you know?
• 1:00:46
  I can't wait to have a Peace Corps.
• 1:00:47
  Breakdown. They won't.
• 1:00:48
  Freak out this year, there's not going to be any negatives.
• 1:00:50
  They're not going to lose it. And if they.
• 1:00:52
  Is Alexis Johnson coming? No.
• 1:00:54
  The Mathlete the. Can't do another one of those.
• 1:01:00
  1st place walks away with $10,000.
• 1:01:02
  Second place 2000. Third place 1000.
• 1:01:06
  But you get more than $10,000 if you win.
• 1:01:12
  What you paying in Bitcoin? Yeah, 250 for event wins, Yeah.
• 1:01:16
  250 even for but the winners. And the ticket.
• 1:01:20
  Oh, Snatch. Of Crash Camp will get a ticket
• 1:01:24
  to the Norcal Classic this summer next.
• 1:01:27
  Question. John.
• 1:01:31
  If if they don't now, I'm not saying you know anything because
• 1:01:36
  I don't know anything, but if it happens to be a semi final event
• 1:01:40
  and then you don't make the the cut off and we'll talk about
• 1:01:44
  that later on in the show. Do they still get to go or how
• 1:01:48
  does that work? Yeah, that'll be a question for
• 1:01:50
  Blair, who will be there on Friday.
• 1:01:52
  We're going to have him on the stream.
• 1:01:53
  He's coming. He's flying in for a day just to
• 1:01:56
  hang out. That'd be a good question to ask
• 1:01:58
  him. I imagine like last year, hey,
• 1:02:01
  you have to complete all three workouts of the Open and then
• 1:02:04
  this year would be and you have to finish in the top 2000 and
• 1:02:07
  quarterfinals. You can't qualify for the games.
• 1:02:11
  I'm sure you could still go to Norcal and compete.
• 1:02:14
  So you can still get an invitation you.
• 1:02:15
  Just I, I, I don't know that. I just know that whoever wins
• 1:02:19
  this competition, Blair and Ben want to have them out so.
• 1:02:23
  I I mean, I know we're talking about feeling that whoever.
• 1:02:25
  Wins is going to have no problem finishing in the top 2000 and.
• 1:02:29
  Quarter. That's that's that's my exact
• 1:02:31
  sentiment, yeah. Well, I'm just, you know.
• 1:02:34
  Are you doubting Colton? Yeah, I'm not doubting.
• 1:02:37
  I would never doubt Colton, but you know, you never know.
• 1:02:42
  Like on the women's side, you never know who wins and just you
• 1:02:45
  know, something happens. Emily Rolfe could have won.
• 1:02:48
  She wouldn't have made it. I'm just as things happen.
• 1:02:51
  That's all I'm saying. That's true.
• 1:02:54
  October 17th, the 19th Spartanburg SC cross.
• 1:02:59
  Be there. Yeah, athletes, you should.
• 1:03:01
  If you're watching any of you are watching by 9:00 PM Eastern
• 1:03:04
  Time, you should have your athlete packet.
• 1:03:07
  If you do not kindly text me. Not like no packet, you know,
• 1:03:14
  just like you know, just be cool about it.
• 1:03:17
  It's coming. It's it's coming over 2 weeks
• 1:03:20
  ahead of time. So.
• 1:03:21
  He has to hand type all of them. Guys, it's going to take a
• 1:03:24
  minute. Exactly.
• 1:03:25
  He's he's typed out hundreds of of these things.
• 1:03:29
  Jr. Thank you.
• 1:03:31
  Thanks guys. Great.
• 1:03:32
  Yeah. Thanks Jr.
• 1:03:33
  Thank you Jr. I'm excited all.
• 1:03:35
  Right, I'll be watching them. See you all right.
• 1:03:37
  Have a good one, Mr. Jr. Howell, Crash Crucible.
• 1:03:43
  We're going to have so much fun, Tyler.
• 1:03:45
  I mean, I will I'll I'll have to work out for like 24 minutes at
• 1:03:48
  one of them and never finish the workout but.
• 1:03:52
  It'll be great, but you'll do fine fine.
• 1:03:56
  Why? Why did it take you 6 minutes?
• 1:04:00
  I miss paste it. You just went too slow.
• 1:04:03
  I didn't warm up and I just went into it and shouldn't have done
• 1:04:05
  that. OK, I I was just curious if it
• 1:04:08
  was like a fitness thing and then I was like, man, then you
• 1:04:10
  know, I'm going to be in trouble if you can't make it, you know
• 1:04:13
  the. Burpees are a thing like that
• 1:04:15
  was a lot of the whole time I was just thinking, man, if these
• 1:04:19
  burpees weren't in here I'd free freaking smoking this and the
• 1:04:25
  the block. Man, if only this fitness was it
• 1:04:27
  like here to get in my way We. Took out this huge element.
• 1:04:31
  In my defense I hadn't done burpees in like 6 months and I
• 1:04:34
  was like OK but the block jumping over a 12 inch?
• 1:04:37
  Block. It's different.
• 1:04:38
  It's. Weird you the whole time you're
• 1:04:39
  like my burpees wrong. Like my feet are off, just stuff
• 1:04:44
  like that. Yeah, no, it's it's for sure
• 1:04:46
  different. Yeah, OK, well, that'll I mean,
• 1:04:48
  I'm just, I'm just fitnessy. I'm just going to go hard and
• 1:04:52
  we'll see what happens. Like you'll probably destroy me
• 1:04:55
  on the second part, but just because I'll be smoked, I'll be
• 1:04:58
  done. But I'm going to game the fire
• 1:05:01
  out of that one. I'm going to be honest with you,
• 1:05:02
  I. Don't think there's any game in
• 1:05:04
  it dude. It's just like.
• 1:05:05
  Just going to take my 8 minutes. You got to go hotter than you.
• 1:05:08
  I'm not going to do anything in the second round.
• 1:05:10
  You and I'll be competing for reps That's 100.
• 1:05:13
  Percent. I'm going to take no, no, we're
• 1:05:15
  like everybody else. I'm going to take my 8 minute
• 1:05:17
  clock in that second round and then we're going to go hard in
• 1:05:20
  the last round. You're welcome to do the same
• 1:05:23
  thing. But if you get 755 and I got 8
• 1:05:27
  and I didn't do anything and you did all of it, good luck.
• 1:05:32
  That'd be fun. There should be a penalty for.
• 1:05:34
  That that's just being smart. Saying Baggerty.
• 1:05:36
  That's just being smart. All right, viewer comments.
• 1:05:40
  We'll be right after this. Time for some viewer comments,
• 1:06:17
  that's true. Get your frog grips now that's.
• 1:06:21
  Right misses spin uses them. Might as well use them.
• 1:06:24
  All right, Eric Mackey. I hope it works out.
• 1:06:30
  But for fun, what's the over under on DB making it through
• 1:06:36
  the games next season with Adam Neifer?
• 1:06:40
  Oh Dang. I think it's better.
• 1:06:45
  Oh man. I think I'm, I'm, I think she'll
• 1:06:48
  make it. I think after.
• 1:06:50
  Listening to. Adam's show.
• 1:06:54
  He'll make it. Well, he's not he's, he's head
• 1:06:59
  coaching her, I guess. But I guess Jesse's the one
• 1:07:01
  coaching her, Coaching her. It's like a team, I think, yeah,
• 1:07:04
  Jesse does. Doesn't he do like the the
• 1:07:07
  powerlifting strength stuff and then?
• 1:07:09
  Is it Bufano for Justin? Yeah, he's, he's just lifting.
• 1:07:15
  It being a team of people, I think it's a little, it's
• 1:07:18
  probably a little better. And so I I I go over her leaving
• 1:07:26
  Nifer. Oh, she leaves OK.
• 1:07:29
  No, I'm saying like games. Makes it past the games.
• 1:07:33
  Makes it past the games so I'm going over.
• 1:07:34
  I I agree, but I think it's more because of Nifer and less
• 1:07:38
  because of her. He seems like a patient dude for
• 1:07:42
  sure. I just think he just kind of
• 1:07:45
  well, OK, you know, you feel the way you want to feel.
• 1:07:48
  I'll be here when you need me, you know, like he just seems not
• 1:07:51
  a it's a bad thing. I just think that's how he'll
• 1:07:54
  be. I don't I don't know him.
• 1:07:56
  Like he could not be like that at all.
• 1:07:57
  But. He's a grounder for all the all
• 1:08:00
  the electricity. He's just like, Nope, shutting
• 1:08:02
  it. Down.
• 1:08:02
  Yeah. I just think it just rolls off
• 1:08:04
  of him. He just seems.
• 1:08:05
  Like a very. I think the remote helps and not
• 1:08:09
  being romantically involved at some point with your coach
• 1:08:12
  that's. True.
• 1:08:13
  Yeah, probably helps keep that going.
• 1:08:16
  No, I agree. It's it's it's not.
• 1:08:18
  Yeah, I agree. Yeah at Brody edge just listen
• 1:08:25
  to coffee pods and wads WFP update show.
• 1:08:30
  I understand it's not your show, but it seemed relevant and I
• 1:08:33
  can't say how much I am in camp JY.
• 1:08:38
  So sick of the WFP versus CrossFit chat.
• 1:08:42
  This is criticism. This is just slagging off
• 1:08:45
  whatever. Sick of comparisons.
• 1:08:47
  Just want to watch people work out.
• 1:08:49
  Thanks, guys. I look forward to listening each
• 1:08:52
  week. Less WFP versus CrossFit, more
• 1:08:55
  mountains. All right, well, hold on.
• 1:08:59
  I guess I got to change this. All right, let's do semis.
• 1:09:04
  All right, change the segment there.
• 1:09:06
  We're not going to do. We're all fitness project versus
• 1:09:08
  cross and we'll talk about semifinals.
• 1:09:11
  So I wasn't ready for that. You're welcome, Brody.
• 1:09:14
  If you knew how much prep that took to do, it'd be a lot
• 1:09:17
  funnier. Yeah, I, I, you know that I knew
• 1:09:20
  we talked about what we were talking about, but I was like,
• 1:09:23
  oh, I OK, whatever. Guess we're doing that.
• 1:09:27
  And then that took me for a loop.
• 1:09:29
  We were talking about mountain or semifinals, not mountains
• 1:09:32
  this week at Richie Rich. Thanks a lot.
• 1:09:36
  Taylor Tyler. Same person.
• 1:09:39
  I went to local Quaker State oil change place and asked for an
• 1:09:42
  oil change in a side of mozzarella sticks.
• 1:09:44
  They looked at me funny and told me to leave.
• 1:09:47
  Made me look like an ass hat but it got my JY barbell and spin
• 1:09:50
  shirts. But no way I'm investing in a
• 1:09:52
  heat one shirt after this. Not fair enough.
• 1:09:57
  Yeah, that it's bad move on you. It's it's the wing place, but
• 1:10:00
  OK. Yeah, care Carrie and debutlier
• 1:10:07
  3000. Something like their friends for
• 1:10:09
  sure. Yeah, maybe it would work better
• 1:10:12
  if the games were biannual. I'm thinking that's every other
• 1:10:16
  year, not twice a year. Then other comms could grow the
• 1:10:20
  sport. We're talking dirty to Tyler.
• 1:10:26
  This is like, right, It's like not following the methodology.
• 1:10:30
  We get to the same place, but it's not the methodology I want.
• 1:10:33
  It's not the reasoning behind it.
• 1:10:35
  I do think the game should be every other year just because I
• 1:10:37
  think like it's it's a lot to ask over and over again.
• 1:10:43
  And I don't like you would really need a big bunch of
• 1:10:47
  infrastructure to be able to make sure that that works.
• 1:10:50
  But I mean it could work it. Would be a big risk I think if
• 1:10:53
  you did something like that, just given how sorry Brody World
• 1:10:59
  Fitness Project and CrossFit Games are at odds right now.
• 1:11:02
  Yeah, you need to kill the WFP 1st and then you could do it.
• 1:11:06
  But it's it's not about the diverses or anything.
• 1:11:08
  You just. No, it's just.
• 1:11:10
  Tyler, tell me if I'm wrong, but I think your whole thing was you
• 1:11:14
  wanted individual one year and then teams the next year.
• 1:11:17
  And that way people could like we would, you know, we would do
• 1:11:20
  rankings of teams like this in teams, you know what I mean?
• 1:11:24
  And where people would pay way more attention to teams and they
• 1:11:26
  would get more and maybe you would have the individual people
• 1:11:30
  be on teams that year, right? It would be like just a little
• 1:11:34
  back and forth, but like your hoppers, like Hopper and down
• 1:11:38
  would be on the same team with fee and not Danielle.
• 1:11:43
  You know what? So that that be your team and
• 1:11:47
  then it would be teams one year and then individuals one year
• 1:11:50
  and that's that was your whole. Yeah, I don't want to.
• 1:11:53
  I don't want to see, I don't want to see the same stuff we've
• 1:11:56
  been doing. I think that you'd need to
• 1:11:58
  change the team competition would need to change.
• 1:12:00
  It would probably be like pretty similar to the way water Palooza
• 1:12:04
  does it so Cal the yeah cups sort of thing.
• 1:12:08
  I think you would need like more kind of structured teams the way
• 1:12:11
  like grid has. But I mean, these are all just
• 1:12:16
  fucking off the wall ideas. Yeah, I think we're I I would.
• 1:12:21
  Have to be out of the picture though at this point.
• 1:12:23
  I, oh, I agree with that. I I'm not against that.
• 1:12:26
  I I'm way for individual every year.
• 1:12:29
  It's CrossFit Games. It's what I revolve my year
• 1:12:33
  round like I I love that right, So, but if they ended up if it
• 1:12:37
  that it happened in the future, I wouldn't be against it.
• 1:12:40
  Like I don't think. I do think it would give way
• 1:12:42
  more attention to teams and then the the elites would form their
• 1:12:46
  own teams and like it would be fun.
• 1:12:48
  You might even get like proven teams versus brute teams.
• 1:12:51
  You know what I mean? And then maybe some irrelevant
• 1:12:54
  camps have scrambled up a team, you know.
• 1:12:57
  But like I I could 100% see that future if it was.
• 1:13:04
  But I'm still in the camp of individual every year.
• 1:13:07
  And I understand that it is the system that we're in.
• 1:13:11
  It would be like, you'd have two years of talk to be like, is
• 1:13:14
  Jason better than Dallin? Like last year he looked really
• 1:13:17
  good. Something happened, like stuff
• 1:13:19
  like that. It'd just be a lot more more
• 1:13:22
  interesting with the time lapse, but also.
• 1:13:24
  Something bad? It would make it even more
• 1:13:28
  important, just like the Olympics every four years,
• 1:13:30
  'cause you only get a couple shots at it.
• 1:13:32
  Yeah, like you'd have to put everything into it that year.
• 1:13:36
  I think it, but it might not be as profitable for the athletes
• 1:13:39
  though, because if something happens on your games, if
• 1:13:41
  something happens like for instance, Ricky fell off a bike,
• 1:13:46
  right, and then he couldn't do the games right.
• 1:13:48
  So now that's four years until you get to see him again.
• 1:13:54
  That's like, that's like. Competing.
• 1:13:55
  Failing a drug test. That's crazy.
• 1:13:57
  Four years is insane because something just happened to you
• 1:14:01
  that year. I think that I think the money
• 1:14:04
  would shift a lot and like a team, if we went with the whole
• 1:14:06
  team idea, John, Like I think all that cumulative power, like
• 1:14:11
  you get all the best people on one team, like that's going to
• 1:14:13
  create a lot of attention. So I I don't think they would
• 1:14:18
  lose out on money but you would have to build it like this is
• 1:14:20
  something you would have to build 2 years out to make sure
• 1:14:23
  that you didn't fall on your face in year.
• 1:14:25
  One and be like we are changing this in 20-30 in 20-30 we are
• 1:14:29
  going to this model and then yeah 100 yeah I.
• 1:14:33
  Think I think it would extend the life of an athlete because
• 1:14:37
  you would train. Differently, you would train
• 1:14:40
  less. You would train less, you would,
• 1:14:42
  I think less burnout overall. Yeah, I agree.
• 1:14:47
  I also think we would see huge changes in performance overall
• 1:14:51
  to the athletes 'cause you could have like a two year cycle
• 1:14:53
  essentially. You have to give some way to
• 1:14:57
  keep people engaged though. Yes, the teams like his.
• 1:15:01
  His thing is that all the elites would be on a team and though
• 1:15:04
  they would mean more I. Guess maybe?
• 1:15:07
  Well, like what you're saying, it'd be more important.
• 1:15:10
  The games would be more important for every for how much
• 1:15:13
  more important the games would be on your biannual.
• 1:15:17
  Like you take the same step down and then that would be the
• 1:15:20
  importance of teams, which is still way more important than
• 1:15:25
  what teams are now. Right.
• 1:15:28
  You're you're saying this Mason, with the idea that they would
• 1:15:32
  the team competitions would be as they are now.
• 1:15:34
  And I, they don't mean anything. I, I 100% see the see the
• 1:15:37
  vision, Tyler, I'm not, I'm not. If you told me to vote, I
• 1:15:40
  wouldn't vote for it. But I can.
• 1:15:42
  I I can. See the vision around?
• 1:15:44
  I'm not going to. Do it like that's like I would.
• 1:15:47
  I could get behind it once it happened, right?
• 1:15:52
  Does that make sense? You're classically we'll we'll
• 1:15:54
  see guy. Yeah, but you know, I'm still
• 1:15:57
  going to do my job. You know I'm going to make
• 1:16:00
  predictions on teams for the first time ever, but.
• 1:16:04
  At Pricerk. Honestly I am not a huge fan of
• 1:16:07
  Sprague but I really enjoyed his interview.
• 1:16:14
  Damn, just say I really enjoyed the interview.
• 1:16:18
  And Jared Greyville, agent to Austin Hatfield and Ariel Lowen
• 1:16:23
  and other people you guys talking to loud live as it's
• 1:16:28
  actually Dylan was the best part of the show lol.
• 1:16:33
  Dylan. Obviously was Dylan because he
• 1:16:35
  just freaking bought Watapalooza with other people.
• 1:16:39
  Yeah. It is no longer loud live.
• 1:16:43
  I had one more comment. Well, yeah, another comment.
• 1:16:46
  Shout out to two of the biggest fans of the Barbell spin, Ally
• 1:16:49
  and Chase Pittman, who got married last weekend.
• 1:16:51
  Somehow they're still watching this show even though Tyler and
• 1:16:54
  John are way too political. I'm political.
• 1:16:57
  How am I political? How am I political?
• 1:17:02
  I think, I don't think we have to even tell you, John.
• 1:17:04
  Yeah, you know. I'm like the least political guy
• 1:17:07
  in our. Thread not on this show.
• 1:17:14
  I hate I hate you for that spin. I that's terrible.
• 1:17:17
  All right, well, if y'all we knew what kind of efforts put in
• 1:17:22
  like I'm zero political in that threat.
• 1:17:25
  I get just, I just let it let them talk what they want to talk
• 1:17:28
  then. Just keep it in the locker room,
• 1:17:29
  then, all right? Yeah, I.
• 1:17:33
  Ruined your, I ruined your. Good segue there.
• 1:17:35
  You're good, you're good, your teammate.
• 1:17:40
  He does. Mighty Mouse, you're the most
• 1:17:42
  polarizing political person ever.
• 1:17:44
  JY. By far.
• 1:17:46
  OK. Well, yeah.
• 1:17:52
  So lots of changes over there at Wadapalooza, Dylan Dylan is
• 1:17:59
  running a consortium, a group, a small ownership group, bought it
• 1:18:04
  out from Loud and live said We're taking this thing over,
• 1:18:07
  get away, big corporation. We're going to do this
• 1:18:09
  ourselves. Tears were not shed.
• 1:18:12
  They were, they were not shed at that point.
• 1:18:15
  And then I guess now it's it's, I guess it's pretty much
• 1:18:19
  official. I mean without being official
• 1:18:21
  that Jim Reapers is going to be the next title sponsor.
• 1:18:26
  Dude, Tear just got Jim reaped. Yeah, so tear they, they were
• 1:18:34
  the sponsor from 2324 and then their contract ended at the end
• 1:18:38
  of 25. Obviously we're approaching
• 1:18:41
  that, and it looks like Jim Reapers is stepping up big.
• 1:18:47
  There's a lot, there's a lot of moving parts here.
• 1:18:50
  First I thought about Dylan from Dylan's perspective, how cool
• 1:18:55
  it's got to feel to like you've been like he was, like he was
• 1:19:00
  just helping. Ditto in the early days.
• 1:19:02
  I don't know when he started helping Guido.
• 1:19:07
  I'm not sure. Guido may be part of an owner in
• 1:19:09
  that group, I'm not sure. Guido Trinidad games athlete.
• 1:19:13
  He he was the one that started Wadapalooza back in the day
• 1:19:17
  2012. I think something like that,
• 1:19:19
  yeah. Fun fact, Elena Fortunato beat
• 1:19:23
  Noah Olson that year and a whole bunch of guys.
• 1:19:27
  But yeah, Dylan basically started out as a volunteer
• 1:19:30
  helping out when he was going to the University of Miami and
• 1:19:35
  worked his way up to being the main guy for the VP of Sport, I
• 1:19:39
  think it was. It's a real Michael Scott paper
• 1:19:42
  company sort of situation we have going here, like where I
• 1:19:45
  hope. I hope it turns out better than
• 1:19:46
  that, but. That worked out for everybody.
• 1:19:50
  It's Dwight owning the office at the end of The Office.
• 1:19:53
  Yes, it's, it's really cool. I I I am.
• 1:19:55
  Happy Dylan is Dwight, that's what you're saying?
• 1:19:58
  That's what I'm saying. Who was Michael Scott?
• 1:20:01
  Also, Dylan, it's, it's just cool.
• 1:20:06
  Like that's got to feel really good.
• 1:20:09
  Like to have worked basically being a janitor all the way up
• 1:20:12
  to owning the company is is a big deal.
• 1:20:15
  I don't. I never understood loud live
• 1:20:18
  entering the space. I guess it's because they're
• 1:20:21
  from Miami and they thought we run events.
• 1:20:23
  We could run this event, but they're doing so much bigger
• 1:20:27
  stuff than what Wadapalooza was. I feel like it was probably just
• 1:20:35
  more of a, at the end of the day, a headache for them as a
• 1:20:38
  company versus, you know, what they're trying to do elsewise.
• 1:20:45
  So I mean, it makes sense now. What's interesting is if you
• 1:20:49
  start listening to Wilmore ad on interviews, they approached
• 1:20:54
  Wadapalooza and they were turned down.
• 1:21:00
  So I mean Dylan is sticking with the CrossFit.
• 1:21:05
  They partner with CrossFit on doing 26.3.
• 1:21:09
  If it stays in March I can imagine like I have a hard time
• 1:21:13
  believing that it doesn't stay. I think it would stay.
• 1:21:17
  That's a, that's a future program, like a future
• 1:21:19
  partnership throughout the years.
• 1:21:21
  I mean, we talked about this last week.
• 1:21:23
  I think it was like, it's a really cool thing to have the
• 1:21:27
  open, the competition do the open.
• 1:21:31
  I mean, you've got, what is it, 3000 people, 2003 thousand
• 1:21:34
  athletes that'll be doing it, plus every spectator will have
• 1:21:37
  the opportunity to do it. I mean, that's awesome.
• 1:21:40
  It's amazing. It's going to be so cool.
• 1:21:43
  I mean, it really is like the culmination of what you want out
• 1:21:47
  of the opening in the community. Like, hey guys, let's all every
• 1:21:51
  it it they say they did it for the next 10 years.
• 1:21:53
  Like every every open, we end in Miami.
• 1:21:56
  And we have this party. Yeah, like that's cool.
• 1:22:00
  And it really, it seems so obvious now.
• 1:22:02
  We should have been doing this for forever.
• 1:22:05
  Well, I mean, it's hard to do that when it wasn't in March,
• 1:22:07
  and that sounded like a crazy idea to.
• 1:22:09
  Put and what? Yeah, it was in January.
• 1:22:11
  Yeah, that's true. But it's it, it's super cool.
• 1:22:15
  And yeah, it is. People were giving a shit for
• 1:22:19
  how much shit we give WFP, but it's like we give Waterpalooza a
• 1:22:24
  ton of shit. I think it's because we care
• 1:22:26
  about Waterpalooza a lot. But it's like Dylan's.
• 1:22:28
  Dylan's a hardcore CrossFit guy. Like he knows where he started
• 1:22:33
  and where he comes from. And for him to probably
• 1:22:38
  cordially say no to WFP like solid pro move.
• 1:22:45
  Yeah. I'm curious, does does having
• 1:22:49
  that like if you're if you're going to water palooza Jim
• 1:22:52
  reapers water palooza tear? Jim Reapers.
• 1:22:59
  Water Palooza tear next year, I have to imagine that more people
• 1:23:05
  will sign up for the open because they're going to watch a
• 1:23:08
  friend or a family member and they they do it.
• 1:23:10
  They just haven't signed up in the past, right?
• 1:23:13
  And now it's like if you can promote that, like make it
• 1:23:16
  really big before the open and all those people are going there
• 1:23:20
  like, Oh yeah, I guess I'll sign up.
• 1:23:21
  I'll do that the first two weeks at my affiliate and then do it
• 1:23:23
  at Miami. That'll be cool.
• 1:23:25
  Yeah, so cool. October 8th, that's.
• 1:23:30
  Right. What happened to the 7th?
• 1:23:32
  What? What happened to the 7th?
• 1:23:34
  Well, that's not a Wednesday. It's not a Wednesday.
• 1:23:37
  I actually spoke to them and I said, hey, I know we agreed on
• 1:23:42
  October 7th over a year ago, but our show is not then.
• 1:23:48
  So if you could be so kind as to move it to October 8th, I would
• 1:23:52
  appreciate it. My bad, I would have called it
• 1:23:55
  the 8th I forgot. I know we agreed over a year ago
• 1:23:58
  that that was going to happen, but October 8th, you know?
• 1:24:04
  Yeah, that's why. I tried to get a move Max shirt,
• 1:24:09
  shipping was $46. I'm not getting a move Max
• 1:24:13
  shirt. How much?
• 1:24:14
  Was this shirt? 35 This would be like $85 for AT
• 1:24:18
  shirt. Better be the best damn T-shirt
• 1:24:20
  you ever bought in. Your I don't know, I won't get
• 1:24:22
  one. This T-shirt is $1000 right
• 1:24:24
  here, so I don't want to hear it.
• 1:24:25
  Yeah, You know, I was talking to Dylan.
• 1:24:30
  I think he was a little nervous about what the reaction with the
• 1:24:33
  community would be of him buying or, you know, him being part of
• 1:24:38
  an ownership group and ownership group and coming out.
• 1:24:41
  I was like, dude, I think everybody's going to like it.
• 1:24:43
  Yeah. And read in the comments like
• 1:24:45
  everybody I think is pumped about this.
• 1:24:47
  Yeah, it's cool man. It's all, it's all the home
• 1:24:51
  grown stuff. Like why would you be upset
• 1:24:54
  about it? I mean, they're like some
• 1:24:56
  strategic things that I think about like loud and live is able
• 1:25:01
  to handle more burden of overhead.
• 1:25:05
  They they probably have more a deeper pocketbook for big
• 1:25:10
  catastrophic issues. Yes right, like having to do the
• 1:25:14
  barge or what what that was what was that 24 two years ago, 2
• 1:25:20
  water Blueses ago having to do that at the last minute like
• 1:25:22
  they they could handle big expenses that pop up out of
• 1:25:26
  nowhere. So there might be a little bit
• 1:25:29
  less room for error, but I feel like a group that's been part of
• 1:25:33
  the community that's, I mean, that has competed at Water
• 1:25:36
  Blues, that's that, you know, really wants this less
• 1:25:41
  bureaucracy, more ability to do things that are really fun and
• 1:25:45
  cool, like different things. I think they'd be more open to
• 1:25:49
  than a company that's like, hey, bottom line, we've got.
• 1:25:53
  This is what we're doing. We got to break even.
• 1:25:55
  We can't do anything outside the box, can't take a risk.
• 1:25:57
  You have to say tier. You have to say tier, Yeah.
• 1:26:01
  I said I know, I, I think we should be very, I'm not very
• 1:26:06
  optimistic and like, as a a very unwise woman once said, let us
• 1:26:11
  not be unburdened by what has been, OK.
• 1:26:15
  Let let us be unburdened by what has been.
• 1:26:18
  Yes, that one. You're you're not optimistic?
• 1:26:23
  No, I am optimistic I'm going to be unburdened by what has been
• 1:26:27
  and look to the future of what is to come.
• 1:26:32
  Man, you're getting very political on us, John.
• 1:26:34
  I don't know who said that. It was just an unwise woman.
• 1:26:37
  That's the it's honest fortune cookie.
• 1:26:39
  It said unwise. Woman.
• 1:26:41
  No, that's why it said unwise woman.
• 1:26:45
  It didn't say woman, it said unwise woman.
• 1:26:49
  Yeah, there's other sayings that were wise women, woman that I
• 1:26:53
  have not said yet. Dear Jim, Reapers, if I have one
• 1:26:58
  bit of AII actually have gone both ways on this.
• 1:27:01
  The reapes, as we like to call you.
• 1:27:02
  The reapes part of me says don't compel us to say Jim Reapers
• 1:27:09
  water Palooza. The other half of me says I
• 1:27:14
  don't ever want to not say to your water palooza.
• 1:27:17
  Now I feel compelled to continue to say it's never like it's
• 1:27:23
  going to take three years to wash out of my brain that it's
• 1:27:25
  not to your water. Palooza.
• 1:27:27
  It's not. It's Watapalooza.
• 1:27:30
  Every. Time Watapalooza.
• 1:27:32
  Sponsored by Jim. Reapers and then my friend goes
• 1:27:35
  tear. Well, it just give it a year.
• 1:27:40
  Give it a year. Tear got a lot out of that
• 1:27:44
  partnership, to say the least. Like requiring Tear to be said
• 1:27:48
  every single time. Like it turned into a running
• 1:27:53
  joke. But guess what everybody knows.
• 1:27:56
  Tear, tear, tear. Tear tear forever.
• 1:28:03
  They pulled out too early, like 3 years.
• 1:28:05
  It finally took after three years.
• 1:28:07
  We were like, fine, we'll just say it.
• 1:28:08
  And you know, you know what they say a very wise woman is you
• 1:28:13
  can't produce if you pull out too early.
• 1:28:15
  That's true. Who said that?
• 1:28:19
  A wise woman. OK.
• 1:28:23
  Yeah, Water Palooza. Presented by Jim Reapers.
• 1:28:28
  Man should be that's got a ring to it like I've never heard
• 1:28:31
  before in my life. Man, I just felt right when I
• 1:28:34
  when. That's when you're not going to
• 1:28:36
  be compelled to say that. Presented by Jim Reapers,
• 1:28:38
  though. You're just going to see Water
• 1:28:39
  Palooza for 10. Years to be a lot to hear.
• 1:28:43
  Hey, we're going to be going to Wadapalooza Miami, brought to
• 1:28:47
  you by Jim Reapers every single time is going to be be.
• 1:28:51
  Rough. No, dude, we're going to.
• 1:28:52
  We don't. They're not going to make us
• 1:28:53
  say. Brought to you by Jim Reapers.
• 1:28:56
  They shouldn't have to considering Tear was plastered
• 1:28:59
  on every damn thing that was there.
• 1:29:03
  Yeah, keeping it real $5. Thanks, Grant.
• 1:29:07
  He's a new dad, Papa. New.
• 1:29:10
  Gawini. Oh my gosh, that's gross.
• 1:29:16
  It's a Papa New Guinea. It's a port, and I don't know
• 1:29:20
  what it's called. Hold on, hold on, hold on, Hold
• 1:29:23
  on. Hold on hold.
• 1:29:26
  On OK. Got it.
• 1:29:29
  It's port with an M and I don't know.
• 1:29:33
  I don't know what it is. It's port M and I don't know.
• 1:29:36
  I don't, I don't know what. It is.
• 1:29:38
  I don't know what it is. It's port.
• 1:29:40
  It starts with an M and I and I that's that's all I have.
• 1:29:44
  I'm I'm. That's crazy.
• 1:29:46
  Still though, I'm I'm devastated.
• 1:29:48
  Oh. Moresby.
• 1:29:50
  I'm, I'm sorry, I it just didn't come to me.
• 1:29:55
  Now I'm like really depressed. That's such a weird country to
• 1:30:00
  like think about. The fact that you knew it was
• 1:30:03
  port and it started with an M is.
• 1:30:06
  Yeah, probably. Better than 99?
• 1:30:08
  Percent everybody else. Like I was waiting for the word
• 1:30:11
  to form in my head and I didn't. Just didn't.
• 1:30:13
  My guess is that of the 384 people watching, nobody got that
• 1:30:17
  far. I don't care about those people.
• 1:30:19
  I'm going to go take some Tylenol, man.
• 1:30:22
  I need, I need, I need to be better.
• 1:30:23
  That's what got you here in the first place.
• 1:30:25
  I need to be better. I think if you take it now it'll
• 1:30:27
  just counteract the effects. Just it just starts leaving me
• 1:30:32
  like. Like, yeah.
• 1:30:34
  So stay tuned. They did change their YouTube
• 1:30:37
  channel so it's no longer loud in live sports.
• 1:30:39
  It is now WZA Sports. So you're still it's the same
• 1:30:44
  whole channel just renamed. But if you have never subscribed
• 1:30:47
  or never wanted to, never, you know, gone to that Channel.
• 1:30:51
  Now it's at Watapalooza or what WZA Sports.
• 1:30:54
  Waz waza. Waza Sports.
• 1:30:57
  So good stuff. You want to do some blind
• 1:31:01
  rankings. Let's do it.
• 1:31:02
  I'm ready to rank blindly. We're.
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  So you're welcome, Taylor. All right, blind rankings.
• 1:31:58
  We're sticking with the theme of non CrossFit stuff.
• 1:32:03
  We'll see if this one's a better one than last week.
• 1:32:07
  Appetizers didn't go over so well.
• 1:32:09
  I think John will like this one. Tyler, I don't know if you'll
• 1:32:12
  have any opinions on it. I got opinions on everything.
• 1:32:16
  We'll find out. All right, here we go.
• 1:32:20
  Today's blind rankings dogs. Not the best with breeds.
• 1:32:32
  Like what they look like? I I think you'll know.
• 1:32:35
  I don't know names. I didn't pick the random like
• 1:32:40
  unknown Papua New Guinea dog breeds.
• 1:32:43
  Yeah, I think you'll. Understand.
• 1:32:45
  I think you'll know what these are.
• 1:32:47
  So the goat. Hold on, just let him.
• 1:32:50
  Just let him do it. Then we'll just.
• 1:32:52
  OK, it's. Going to all.
• 1:32:54
  Right I I think Pitbull is the best dog.
• 1:32:58
  You're wrong. I'm biased towards corgis
• 1:33:04
  because we have two corgis. So I hate, but I am biased, I
• 1:33:09
  know that. Actually, I do have I do so.
• 1:33:11
  You like pit bulls the best, but you have two corgis that.
• 1:33:14
  Feels dude. Well, I didn't get to say
• 1:33:16
  anything. I I wanted an English mastiff
• 1:33:18
  and Leslie wanted a corgi and then we ended up with two corgis
• 1:33:21
  and that's how marriage works. So.
• 1:33:24
  But I think. Compromised.
• 1:33:26
  Dogs. I think pit bulls are the best
• 1:33:27
  dogs. I grew up on a farm.
• 1:33:28
  The number one qualifier for a dog is big.
• 1:33:33
  I like big dogs. English mastiff I'm all about.
• 1:33:36
  I won an English mastiff so badly and Leslie will not let me
• 1:33:40
  have one. Like we made a deal that if she
• 1:33:44
  was allowed to get a corgi, the first one that I get an English
• 1:33:49
  mastiff the next dog we got. And then three years later we
• 1:33:53
  got another corgi and and now she's, she's refrained from her
• 1:34:00
  like what we agreed upon. And I'm talking like in our vows
• 1:34:03
  agreed upon and, and now I'm never going to get an English
• 1:34:07
  mastiff. It's never going to happen until
• 1:34:09
  she dies. So you know, if she dies before
• 1:34:13
  like 50, like I probably just really wanted an English
• 1:34:16
  mastiff. I'll be honest with y'all so.
• 1:34:21
  English Mastiff is not on this list, so keep that in mind,
• 1:34:24
  John. All right, but the first one, A
• 1:34:28
  Labrador. 1. So this is this is the most
• 1:34:32
  popular dog breed, Tyler. This is what like everybody has
• 1:34:37
  'cause. They're not a Labradoodle dog.
• 1:34:40
  Not the Labradoodle though. I I know dude.
• 1:34:43
  They are big enough, they're smart as shit, they're
• 1:34:46
  personable. They're beautiful.
• 1:34:48
  I think the golden retriever is better than Labradors.
• 1:34:51
  They love everything. Golden retrievers love you so
• 1:34:55
  much and and they're just goofy. Like I think a golden retriever
• 1:35:01
  is better than Labrador. Doesn't make you laugh.
• 1:35:03
  A Labrador. A Labrador.
• 1:35:04
  Is basically a Labrador. A Labrador is a good dog like
• 1:35:08
  he's like he should he he would do what you need him to do as a
• 1:35:11
  dog. But a golden retriever?
• 1:35:14
  This category is dogs. You can't.
• 1:35:16
  You can't look at a golden retriever.
• 1:35:18
  Cool. Entire lab.
• 1:35:20
  Let's go. Through the ball to the dog.
• 1:35:23
  Like over and over and over again.
• 1:35:24
  We're I'm talking it during my L1.
• 1:35:27
  But a golden retriever, you can't not smile.
• 1:35:30
  Oh, that dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:35:32
  Sorry. I thought you were talking about
• 1:35:33
  Gilligan. I think Gilligan's gone.
• 1:35:35
  A corgi. You can't not smile.
• 1:35:39
  So where you put in the laboratory?
• 1:35:40
  I say 2. I will not budget.
• 1:35:45
  I also don't want to budget because like we're.
• 1:35:48
  Going to have to pull the crowd for this one crowd.
• 1:35:50
  All right, We got to pull it, pull it up one or two.
• 1:35:55
  We'll do an official, yeah. I think we do an official poll,
• 1:35:59
  I think. All right, what do we do?
• 1:36:00
  We just hold. First one to first one to 20.
• 1:36:03
  No, you can't do that, because that would be cheating.
• 1:36:06
  Let's see, give me a second here.
• 1:36:08
  What the Hell's? Going on 2/3 Jesus.
• 1:36:11
  Christ, there we go. I mean, the crowd is spoken
• 1:36:13
  spin. I think we just put it at 2:00.
• 1:36:15
  No, let them both. There are a bunch of.
• 1:36:20
  Let's see. You only get 1-2 choices, one or
• 1:36:23
  two. Yeah, if you say if you think
• 1:36:25
  it's below 2, then just say 2. All right, it's up there.
• 1:36:32
  Go to the chat and vote. We're at 22 votes already.
• 1:36:36
  I just don't want to be there. Screaming in 25 votes.
• 1:36:40
  It is basic, John, but it's one of those basic things that's
• 1:36:44
  just right. I don't feel as I don't feel as
• 1:36:47
  loved as I want to feel the Labrador.
• 1:36:49
  Then you then you're doing it wrong because Labrador.
• 1:36:52
  I'm not doing it. Maybe that's the problem, Tyler.
• 1:36:55
  We were at 3839 votes. We need to get the 50 we need to
• 1:36:58
  50 votes. That would be a a majority.
• 1:37:03
  Like, I don't want my dog to work for me.
• 1:37:05
  I want my dog just to be a homeward bound, a loving dog.
• 1:37:09
  Yeah. Homeward bound.
• 1:37:10
  There we go. Homeward bound was.
• 1:37:11
  Yeah, Yeah. And then and then and then.
• 1:37:17
  What's his? What's the ace?
• 1:37:18
  It's not ace. Charlie.
• 1:37:21
  No, it's not Charlie. The the won't the the the pit
• 1:37:24
  bull. He was a pit bull.
• 1:37:25
  The other one was Chance. Chance was a pit bull.
• 1:37:27
  Chance was a pit bull. We got the answer.
• 1:37:30
  Shadow was a gold retriever and Chance was a pit bull. 54 votes,
• 1:37:34
  63% have picked #2. All right, there we go.
• 1:37:40
  There we go. And then the cat.
• 1:37:41
  Sassy was a cat. Sassy, yeah.
• 1:37:44
  I'm not about to do cat breeds. I don't.
• 1:37:46
  Know that Cat stresses me out. Dude Homertown is is crazy man.
• 1:37:50
  I can't do it. I can't watch it.
• 1:37:52
  It's hard to watch. It's like air.
• 1:37:54
  Bud dude, Air Bud is the saddest movie of all time.
• 1:37:58
  I'm sorry I have not and my parents, if they're like they
• 1:38:02
  will, they will attest to this. I have not shed more tears in
• 1:38:08
  any movie than Air Bud. I will cry every single time I
• 1:38:14
  watch this movie. I like have to very
• 1:38:17
  strategically choose when I get to watch this movie.
• 1:38:19
  Marley and me. I, I, I watch it once and then
• 1:38:22
  I'm done with it. I'm not, I don't.
• 1:38:24
  I can't do dog movies because I just know it's going.
• 1:38:27
  To get me. I'll watch a million people get
• 1:38:30
  slaughtered and filled all. Dogs go to heaven.
• 1:38:32
  The second they tell a dog to go away because they don't want
• 1:38:36
  them and that dog goes like I can't, I can't do it, I'm done,
• 1:38:42
  I am, I'm in shambles. #2 #2 here we go, the English bulldog
• 1:38:50
  all. Right, I got to look it up.
• 1:38:51
  All right, this is the. What do you mean you have to
• 1:38:53
  look up? You don't know what an English
• 1:38:54
  bulldog. It's the fat, ugly one.
• 1:38:56
  It's the sporty method, dogs that's mean.
• 1:39:00
  Please. Don't like that.
• 1:39:01
  I didn't mean that. I didn't mean for that to be as
• 1:39:03
  mean as it was. No, no, no, no, I don't.
• 1:39:06
  Please, please don't clip, clip. That's too late.
• 1:39:09
  I didn't mean to. It just came out of me.
• 1:39:12
  I feel. I feel bad about it.
• 1:39:14
  We we had an English bulldog and her name was Doozy and she
• 1:39:18
  sounded like this all the time. Yes.
• 1:39:22
  I loved Doozy. I would never buy another
• 1:39:25
  English Bulldog ever again. They just die.
• 1:39:28
  They're they have the most health problems.
• 1:39:30
  The test for me is zombie or nuclear apocalypse.
• 1:39:34
  Zombie. Choose your apocalypse.
• 1:39:36
  Will the dog live? English Bulldogs die within a
• 1:39:38
  week? Yeah.
• 1:39:39
  Dude, I had there was. It's 85° outside and the
• 1:39:43
  bulldog. Doesn't survive, right?
• 1:39:46
  What were you saying, John? I say 5.
• 1:39:49
  It's 5. They're great dogs, they're just
• 1:39:50
  not. I've had some sad times with
• 1:39:53
  English Bulldogs, man. They just die.
• 1:39:55
  Like they're just not, they're not great.
• 1:39:58
  They're just OK. Well, like if they didn't die
• 1:40:00
  they'd be cool, but like as soon as you get them, they're like,
• 1:40:03
  yeah, they could die. They can't breathe, they can't
• 1:40:08
  breathe. They made a dog that can't
• 1:40:10
  breathe. And I'm not talking like me
• 1:40:13
  can't breathe. I'm talking like £600.
• 1:40:16
  Life can't breathe. Right.
• 1:40:19
  It is crazy that we did that to a wolf.
• 1:40:23
  How do you do that? Yeah, yeah, we, we, we have the
• 1:40:27
  dogs up with English bulldog. That was like that was like a a
• 1:40:31
  Hitler twin experiment, what we did with the dogs with Bull I.
• 1:40:34
  Highly disagree with this one. I love.
• 1:40:36
  Frenchies basically because they look like a real life version of
• 1:40:39
  Stitch, but. Owning one.
• 1:40:42
  See, I hate. That they're so loud, that
• 1:40:45
  cackling noise they make. But I love, I think they're
• 1:40:48
  cool. All right, next one, the Basset
• 1:40:52
  Hound. Top tier dog.
• 1:40:55
  For. What?
• 1:41:00
  I don't. I don't want to look at that.
• 1:41:01
  I don't want to look at that droopy droopy eyed, long eared
• 1:41:05
  thing dude. Dude, they're sleepers.
• 1:41:08
  Four. Yeah, that's all they do is
• 1:41:09
  sleepers. But #2 like the moment you get
• 1:41:12
  them hunting, they, they're alive, dude.
• 1:41:14
  You take it you're. About like these hunting.
• 1:41:16
  That's not what I'm doing with my dogs, man.
• 1:41:20
  The fuck you doing with your dogs?
• 1:41:21
  Yeah, you got corgis in I'm. Cuddling them, I'm throwing the
• 1:41:25
  ball I'm trying to get. The dogs to live some life.
• 1:41:28
  John Dude, dude, we're we're eating food.
• 1:41:31
  I'm giving them a burger. They're the happiest they could
• 1:41:34
  ever be about it, about getting that burger and then Oreo.
• 1:41:37
  Dude, I like not hunting with my dogs, man.
• 1:41:42
  Bassy hound just drool all over you.
• 1:41:45
  I'm a I'm a, I'm a like a cuddly dog cuddle guy.
• 1:41:49
  Like, I'm not, I'm not, I don't care to like go do physical
• 1:41:54
  things with my dogs like that's. That's why I don't have dogs
• 1:41:59
  because I can't do physical things with my dog.
• 1:42:01
  I'll I'll see de 4 Bass sounds a great dog though.
• 1:42:04
  I don't. I don't agree with this ranking,
• 1:42:05
  but. All right, Tyler's giving in.
• 1:42:08
  All right #4 Next up, the mini weenie shit.
• 1:42:15
  God damn it. So I would say 3.
• 1:42:23
  There's no other choice. It would be a -7 for.
• 1:42:28
  Me. No, dude, they're not.
• 1:42:31
  They're. Fine, they're good dog.
• 1:42:33
  Like there's no bad dog, but. I want a bigger dog.
• 1:42:38
  I'm wait, I'm with you. It's too small I I want a bigger
• 1:42:41
  dog. I agree.
• 1:42:41
  I'm AI, would love a bigger dog I.
• 1:42:44
  Agree. I'm a clumsy person and you
• 1:42:46
  can't be a clumsy person. You feel like you're going to
• 1:42:48
  step on him. It's no offense to Colton.
• 1:42:50
  And I mean like he's he's, he's closer to them than we are, you
• 1:42:54
  know, so like maybe he won't step on them, but like, you
• 1:42:57
  know, I will all. Right.
• 1:43:00
  Three, huh? Great dog, not for me.
• 1:43:03
  All right, I what? About a giant Wiener.
• 1:43:09
  OK, next. They're real.
• 1:43:11
  They're real. Dude, if this is Chihuahua,
• 1:43:13
  we've asked we've. I told you that's why we should
• 1:43:16
  have went. With LabCorp #1 All right, last
• 1:43:19
  one, yeah. That's right, I.
• 1:43:28
  Can't with the noises they make all the time.
• 1:43:33
  Hold on, you think? Should I go get them?
• 1:43:35
  No should. I go get them, give them some,
• 1:43:37
  they're in the garage right now because they won't stop barking,
• 1:43:40
  but. I hear them.
• 1:43:42
  Yeah. They're good dogs.
• 1:43:44
  They are very lovable dogs, but. Look, Colton.
• 1:43:48
  'S going. To morning.
• 1:43:50
  No, come on, you know what? If you have to go to morning
• 1:43:53
  chalk up from that, then you're not.
• 1:43:55
  Where? Where are you going exactly?
• 1:43:58
  Yeah, yeah. Oh man.
• 1:44:01
  Where's there to go? Yeah, they you just had a new
• 1:44:05
  litter. I saw on Colton's stories.
• 1:44:07
  I don't think it's still up there. 4 weeks old mini weenies.
• 1:44:10
  I don't know if there's any left.
• 1:44:12
  Is there any? Is there any Weiner dogs left
• 1:44:14
  Colton? But like he and where do we go
• 1:44:17
  to find them? Are they on his Instagram?
• 1:44:19
  He's got a teeny weeny Instagram, yeah.
• 1:44:24
  They're not. He doesn't have any posts on
• 1:44:28
  that Instagram right now. But I don't know how you guys
• 1:44:33
  voted number #3 for that. It's terrible.
• 1:44:37
  Oh, I mean, I'm I'm happy, but obviously I'm biased.
• 1:44:41
  Labrador #1 bass down #2 Minnie Wiener actually stays #3 Corgi
• 1:44:47
  goes to 4. English Bulldog 5.
• 1:44:49
  What'd you what'd you say? 5 or one was Labrador.
• 1:44:53
  Lab. Yeah.
• 1:44:55
  You know, honestly, I would, I would put Labrador one.
• 1:44:59
  I, I would, I would put, I would put Labrador one and then Corgi
• 1:45:03
  2. I love my corgis, but again, I
• 1:45:06
  want a bit, I want a bigger dog and I'm just probably never
• 1:45:08
  going to have one. So I'm, I'm sad about it just.
• 1:45:10
  Bring one home. And then then Minnie Weiner, I'm
• 1:45:13
  cool. Like, yeah, I put I'm cool with
• 1:45:16
  that. Yeah.
• 1:45:16
  We just, we disagree on corgi and Basset Hound.
• 1:45:18
  That's it. I had a dog one time.
• 1:45:21
  He was a Great Pyrenees mixed with a lab.
• 1:45:24
  He was humongous and his name was Paul.
• 1:45:30
  Dude, I wouldn't yeah, I wouldn't.
• 1:45:32
  English massive so bad. And I'm going to name Leonidas
• 1:45:34
  and just call him Leo and we're gonna have the grandest of
• 1:45:38
  times. But again, like, you know, it'll
• 1:45:40
  be when I'm. 50 and Leslie's dead, so yeah, we had.
• 1:45:44
  That's when I'm two labs when I'm planning on it.
• 1:45:46
  We had two labs and now we have a one of Colton mini Weiner mini
• 1:45:50
  weenies, A Basset Hound and an English bulldog.
• 1:45:53
  So all of all of the previous dogs of mine and then John's two
• 1:45:58
  corgis are represented here. So how'd you guys rank them?
• 1:46:02
  I'd actually put a lot. I'd actually put our labs down
• 1:46:05
  at 5:00. But just yours.
• 1:46:10
  Yeah, yeah. So I would put a golden
• 1:46:12
  retriever first on this list though if it was there.
• 1:46:16
  I know you wouldn't, Tyler, but. A what?
• 1:46:19
  A A golden retriever as one. Yeah, I'd put a pit bull above
• 1:46:23
  all of them. I think pit bulls have the most
• 1:46:25
  heart out of any dogs. Yeah.
• 1:46:27
  Until they eat your face off. No dude, you just got a love on
• 1:46:31
  them man. If you're good at training dogs,
• 1:46:33
  the problem with pit bulls is like, you got to be good with
• 1:46:36
  dogs. If you're not good with dogs,
• 1:46:37
  pit bulls suck. Yeah, I've only had pit bulls in
• 1:46:41
  my whole family until I was like 15 and we had like 6 different
• 1:46:47
  pit bulls and loved them all. You want to hear about a a story
• 1:46:52
  where I. Almost Cane Corso.
• 1:46:52
  You know who has a Cane? Corso.
• 1:46:55
  A Cane Corso. It's a big old dog, dude.
• 1:46:58
  And and can be mean will warhead has has a Cane Corso.
• 1:47:03
  Cane Corso, Italian. Yeah, those are big dogs.
• 1:47:06
  They are. So one Christmas I went home and
• 1:47:12
  my my dad's, we, they live out in the middle of nowhere, but
• 1:47:16
  it's like, you know, a half mile from the house, our neighbor had
• 1:47:21
  passed away and their grandkids moved in and they weren't the
• 1:47:29
  best of people kind of druggies. And I was like, they just left
• 1:47:33
  this house all locked up. And I saw one day that they took
• 1:47:36
  a dog in there and they left it. And I watched that house the
• 1:47:38
  whole day and it was a pit bull. And I watched that house for
• 1:47:44
  like 2 days and no one went back.
• 1:47:47
  And I broke into that house and that fucking dog was in there
• 1:47:50
  and it hadn't eaten. I fucking stole that dog.
• 1:47:55
  I called Hiller. I was, I asked the guys, I, I
• 1:47:59
  put it in the text thread and I was like, Hey, does anybody want
• 1:48:01
  this dog? Because like, I'm going to have
• 1:48:03
  to do something with it, but it's not going back to the
• 1:48:06
  house. And Hiller called me, He's like,
• 1:48:07
  tell me what you're going to do with this dog.
• 1:48:08
  We ended up getting, we ended up finding a home for it, but
• 1:48:10
  Hiller was about to drive down from Chicago, like on Christmas
• 1:48:13
  Day and. She called Kiefer, well actually
• 1:48:15
  probably need to call Kyra and she would have.
• 1:48:17
  Come. Yeah.
• 1:48:18
  Kyra would have took him. Yeah, yeah, I yeah, yeah.
• 1:48:21
  Don't call Kiefer. You got to do that without
• 1:48:23
  telling Kiefer. I was at the barn near their
• 1:48:26
  house, and the guy whose dog that was comes over and he's
• 1:48:30
  like, hey, have you seen a dog around here?
• 1:48:33
  I was like, I haven't seen anybody at this house for three
• 1:48:37
  days. Was there a dog in that house?
• 1:48:39
  He's like, well, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:48:41
  I was like, no, I ain't seen a fucking dog.
• 1:48:43
  I come this close to beating the living shit out of that dude.
• 1:48:47
  That's crazy. I was so mad.
• 1:48:49
  That just makes me sad. I want to address this.
• 1:48:52
  I had white friends. I don't know where this is
• 1:48:54
  coming from. I just didn't talk.
• 1:48:59
  Well, I also had black friends, but I didn't not have white
• 1:49:05
  friends. So I just, I just wanted to just
• 1:49:08
  wanted to address that. I just, I just, I just didn't
• 1:49:13
  talk very good when I moved to Florida and they made me aware
• 1:49:20
  of it and I wasn't aware of it until then.
• 1:49:22
  There you go. All right.
• 1:49:25
  Last thing, semifinals. I was hoping we're going to get
• 1:49:30
  some information today, but it sounds like we got a little bit
• 1:49:32
  later to go. Maybe October 8th semifinals we
• 1:49:39
  have. You invert this man, go ahead.
• 1:49:41
  You never know. So Copa Sewer.
• 1:49:47
  So what I found out is the top three from Copa Sewer last year
• 1:49:52
  have gotten invites to this year's Copa Sewer and 1st place
• 1:49:57
  at TCB. Some other Brazilian competition
• 1:50:00
  not sanctioned with CrossFit. Winners of that this past
• 1:50:04
  weekend are also getting automatic invites.
• 1:50:07
  We saw just tonight Crash Crucible top men and man and
• 1:50:12
  woman will get an invite to Norcal.
• 1:50:18
  How should semifinals field their competitions this year
• 1:50:27
  like we saw last year? Like Mayhem had the invite, you
• 1:50:31
  had East and West regions between Syndicate and TFX.
• 1:50:36
  Last year you had some other Geo fencing.
• 1:50:40
  French throw Down had their own qualifier.
• 1:50:42
  Torian added an extra week to the open for their qualifier.
• 1:50:49
  Far East had their own qualifier like it's all over the board.
• 1:50:53
  Should there be any consistency? Should they be allowed to do
• 1:50:56
  whatever they want? Is it invite only?
• 1:51:00
  Like what should they do? Before John, because I'm sure
• 1:51:04
  John has big opinions on this. I liked, I sort of like the
• 1:51:08
  chaos for us. I like that Mayhem had their own
• 1:51:13
  Invitational. I like that East and West
• 1:51:17
  basically only invited East and West.
• 1:51:19
  I then like that Norcal sort of served as this last chance
• 1:51:23
  qualifier before we knew about the last chance qualifier.
• 1:51:27
  But it doesn't make for easy storytelling when it comes to
• 1:51:31
  telling the the fans what the hell is going on.
• 1:51:36
  Jonathan. I that's my name for.
• 1:51:41
  Johnny. On the I can't help it.
• 1:51:43
  On the birth certificate, it's John.
• 1:51:45
  It's not like it's I I like I like giving people their own
• 1:51:55
  their own flavor. I'm big time in favor of that.
• 1:51:58
  I don't I don't think I think that's a part of making the
• 1:52:01
  games. I like that there are man, it's
• 1:52:05
  kind of the wild, Wild West on how to make the games.
• 1:52:07
  But if you made it, you did it. You did something to get there,
• 1:52:11
  right. And I think it's being uniform
• 1:52:14
  to get to semi finals I think is important.
• 1:52:18
  And I think like that should be very simple, right?
• 1:52:21
  You have the open and then it gets harder with quarterfinals.
• 1:52:25
  And then if you're a certain like elite group, then you get
• 1:52:28
  to go to in person events and they are in person events.
• 1:52:34
  And then it's kind of region, regional esque, you know, you
• 1:52:38
  just kind of go to where you are.
• 1:52:39
  There's about 8 of them and then the top 2 or top three depending
• 1:52:43
  on where you live, go to the games.
• 1:52:45
  And I don't think that's that complicated it.
• 1:52:47
  Has to be region based then. No, but like if you're
• 1:52:50
  explaining it to somebody, it's like there's a certain amount
• 1:52:54
  within your region and then you can kind of just pick where you
• 1:52:57
  want to go and then the top two or three at each competition
• 1:53:00
  goes to the games. Like if you're elevator pitch
• 1:53:03
  explaining how to get to the games, I don't think that's all
• 1:53:05
  that complicated. And then if you're, you know, a
• 1:53:09
  semi finalist and you're trying to figure out how do I get to
• 1:53:12
  the games, you it's not that hard to I don't think it's that
• 1:53:17
  hard to follow. Like you just you're in 2000.
• 1:53:21
  Some have in person qualifiers. You still have to make the 2000.
• 1:53:25
  Anybody can do the online semi final at the end.
• 1:53:29
  This one's invite only like like they all say it and like I like
• 1:53:33
  that they all have their own flavor.
• 1:53:35
  I like that, you know this one usually FS stuff up.
• 1:53:39
  This one never programs good. It's always power output galore.
• 1:53:43
  This one, all the good people are going to that one.
• 1:53:47
  So whatever comes out of that one's probably going to be all
• 1:53:49
  right. And then like, I like that some
• 1:53:51
  of them mean less than others. And we, we don't have a trouble
• 1:53:56
  talking about it. You know, people are trying to
• 1:53:58
  be informed. Just listen to our we explain
• 1:54:01
  most of it. You know what I mean?
• 1:54:02
  You explain, you explain all of the details for the stuff we
• 1:54:06
  even I don't care about. And then the stuff that matters,
• 1:54:10
  me and Tyler go to town on it. Like like I just, I don't think
• 1:54:14
  it's that hard to understand if the stuff before semi finals is
• 1:54:21
  very uniform every time. Does that, does that make sense?
• 1:54:24
  And I, I like the, I like choosing your own path to an
• 1:54:28
  extent. And then everybody has their own
• 1:54:32
  flavor in semi finals. Nobody had a problem with the
• 1:54:35
  bowl. The bowls, like everybody would
• 1:54:37
  get sorted into their own bowl game every year and no one
• 1:54:41
  really had an issue with that other than like, oh, this team
• 1:54:44
  should have gone to the you know, and gone to the Rose Bowl
• 1:54:47
  or or not, but. Yeah.
• 1:54:49
  But it's that's like complete invite I think.
• 1:54:53
  He's talking. Yeah, Go ahead.
• 1:54:55
  I see the issue is like how? Like how is this going to work
• 1:55:04
  if it is, if it's not regional based this year, like if, if
• 1:55:08
  Syndicate's not North America East and I don't know if it is
• 1:55:11
  going to stay that way or not. How do you, if you're an
• 1:55:17
  organizer, how do you freaking manage it?
• 1:55:18
  If let's say Wilson and syndicate crowns like all right,
• 1:55:22
  Top 40 from the quarterfinals in the entire world can come to
• 1:55:27
  syndicate and somebody in Australia is like, no, I'm just
• 1:55:30
  going to go to Torian and they're like decline.
• 1:55:33
  And then like how far back does Wilson up to backfill if it's
• 1:55:39
  worldwide based, right? Why?
• 1:55:45
  I have to imagine that the Mayhem crew was losing their
• 1:55:48
  mind with everybody that backed out.
• 1:55:51
  What's? That why do you think they
• 1:55:53
  didn't Geo log it? Because the as you talk through
• 1:55:55
  that, I'm like, Oh no, I'm definitely in a Geo, a Geo
• 1:55:58
  fenced camp. I think it's to give people as
• 1:56:03
  many opportunities as they want and I think it's I like that to
• 1:56:06
  some degree. Really.
• 1:56:11
  It's it's really tough though, because like if you don't have
• 1:56:14
  to designate that before the season, like I liked it in 20.
• 1:56:18
  So 2017 where you can go, you can basically like sign up for
• 1:56:23
  any like you just go live somewhere.
• 1:56:25
  And I think was it, was it Invictus Guy went out there card
• 1:56:32
  card, not card, Eric. Eric Carmodi.
• 1:56:38
  Eric Carmodi went out there and tried to qualify through Asia.
• 1:56:43
  I like that. If you had to like designate
• 1:56:45
  like hey, I want to try to go through the Asia track or this
• 1:56:48
  or the Far East throw down track ahead of time.
• 1:56:51
  I just don't know how if it's open up to everybody.
• 1:56:54
  I know you have a field of 2000, but do all of these semifinals
• 1:56:59
  just start throwing invites out to everybody?
• 1:57:01
  And if I'm dally Pepper who who wins the quarterfinals?
• 1:57:06
  Do I get 7 invites to seven different semifinals and then
• 1:57:10
  it's like. No, I think you have your own
• 1:57:13
  qualifier. Well, well, so, so yeah.
• 1:57:16
  And I get, I get yes, I understand for the event
• 1:57:20
  organizers, that's that's that's tough.
• 1:57:23
  I I get that. But I also, I think there should
• 1:57:26
  be, you have one, you can go to 1.
• 1:57:30
  I don't think you should have multiple shots.
• 1:57:32
  It's like you pick whichever 1 you want to go to, you go to
• 1:57:36
  that one. If you don't make it, there's
• 1:57:38
  the online semi final. That's how I think it should be
• 1:57:43
  and then like it's really risky if it's only three.
• 1:57:46
  No, it is risky. I know that's how that's how it
• 1:57:50
  should be and because. About syndicate crown like.
• 1:57:53
  Well. So many people are around the
• 1:57:55
  East that would want to that. That's how you get people to go
• 1:57:58
  to every single one, you know, you're going to get good people
• 1:58:01
  in Asia, you're going to get good people in Africa, you're
• 1:58:03
  going to get good people at Syndicate.
• 1:58:05
  There's going to be good people at every single one, it sounds.
• 1:58:10
  It sounds like like the sorority matching where you have to like
• 1:58:13
  put your first, second, third picks of where you want to go
• 1:58:16
  and then they match up with where.
• 1:58:18
  And I think if you win quarterfinals, yeah.
• 1:58:19
  And I think if you win quarterfinals, you get the first
• 1:58:21
  pick. What's up about that, John?
• 1:58:23
  Is it it only benefits all the other regions except for our
• 1:58:27
  own? Fuck that, did I disagree?
• 1:58:29
  I hardcore disagree. Look at Mayhem, look at what
• 1:58:32
  happened at Mayhem, and look at Syndicate.
• 1:58:34
  How are those fields different? There would be better people at
• 1:58:38
  Syndicate if you had that law in place.
• 1:58:41
  Because the the home athletes would pick first or that all
• 1:58:45
  North America athletes would pick syndicate.
• 1:58:48
  No more of them. Not everybody that's good would
• 1:58:51
  pick Mayhem. They all went to May like Mayhem
• 1:58:54
  was basically a mini games as far as what the field was and
• 1:58:57
  for the men they all wouldn't do that.
• 1:59:01
  Yeah. But then Syndicate would have
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  been different too, because it would have been, it was after
• 1:59:05
  everybody had already qualified. So we have no idea.
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  But like. But that was because online semi
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  finals were before. That was because online semi
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  finals were before. Hopper and Dallin would have
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  been at syndicate. Roman would have been at
• 1:59:16
  Syndicate or Mayhem. Roman probably would go to
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  Mayhem, right? But what I'm saying is it
• 1:59:21
  disperses all of the good people into every single competition.
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  And like, look, Hopper and James, they're not going to
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  Africa. They're picking whichever one
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  they want to go to. It's probably the closest to
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  them. Like it's not.
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  You don't understand what I'm saying.
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  But why not just Geo lock it? Because I don't then.
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  Then you don't get them to get. No, because then the people in
• 1:59:50
  the West get screwed because they're going to TFX and their
• 1:59:53
  programming is going to be a certain way.
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  So. I think you pick which one you
• 1:59:58
  want to go to. I think if you win
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  quarterfinals, you get first pick.
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  If you're 2nd and quarterfinals, you get second pick then and
• 2:00:05
  that makes it worth so much more.
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  And then it's, and then it's like, Oh my gosh, Dallin and
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  Jeff are going to be at Syndicate, but you, I don't want
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  to go to Syndicate. Yeah.
• 2:00:15
  You wouldn't know, though. You wouldn't know unless you do
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  like a live draft. You do, yes.
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  That would be crazy. That would be it.
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  You do, you announce. Or the semifinals get to draft
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  each player. After quarterfinals.
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  No, not two days, not semifinals.
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  Draft. The players get the pick in
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  order. Right, but you don't know the
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  programming. Right.
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  You're not going to know the programming unless you do know
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  the programming. No, I'm saying after, after
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  quarterfinals, after quarterfinals you 2 days later
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  then you like guys at 7:00 PM we're going live and you're
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  going to make your pick. You got you got 60 seconds to
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  make your pick where you want to.
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  Go. You get drafted.
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  Hear me out. You get drafted.
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  The semifinals release their programming, but they draft the
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  athletes. No, the semi finals aren't.
• 2:01:00
  No, that's and then the athletes get the top. 20 athletes.
• 2:01:04
  It wouldn't. It would be.
• 2:01:04
  And then you can enter yourself in the transfer portal, but you
• 2:01:07
  can only get transferred if somebody from the region you
• 2:01:10
  want to go to can transfer out. Nobody would want to.
• 2:01:14
  Yeah, exactly. It's.
• 2:01:16
  Trash. It doesn't work that way.
• 2:01:17
  It doesn't work. The transfer portals ruins
• 2:01:19
  college sports. What about this?
• 2:01:21
  What if we had like, I want to say government sanctioned, HQ
• 2:01:26
  sanctioned events, so east and West, but then Norcal also gets
• 2:01:30
  1. Like you can put a bin in to run
• 2:01:32
  your own semifinal and HQ can accept or veto those.
• 2:01:36
  So it's like the, the, it works similar to this year where it's
• 2:01:39
  like you get dibs to go to the Geo lock location east or West.
• 2:01:46
  And then if you don't want to go to those, you can drop out, but
• 2:01:51
  you only get one drop out or something like that, right?
• 2:01:54
  I'm just thinking like you should be able.
• 2:01:57
  I want to keep the Geo lock but then I also want to give other
• 2:02:01
  people the ability to run a semi final if it's.
• 2:02:04
  Yeah, you also have to think about like you also have to
• 2:02:07
  think about Europe, which they have two, right.
• 2:02:09
  They're going to have, I assume if they have they keep two, one
• 2:02:13
  in France and if it was like last year in Spain, sure, right.
• 2:02:18
  Like splitting that up. I don't even know how they think
• 2:02:21
  of that from a a Geo fencing area.
• 2:02:25
  I don't even care if they Geo fence it.
• 2:02:27
  I don't. I don't think they need to but
• 2:02:30
  if if they do that's fine. I just don't like athletes that
• 2:02:34
  do four different semi finals to make it to the game.
• 2:02:36
  Well, and or or. I don't want that.
• 2:02:38
  Or you sign up for four of them and then you just drop them as
• 2:02:40
  you decide you don't want to do it, and then it just gets a
• 2:02:43
  headache. Like the online semi finals
• 2:02:46
  should just serve as like this is your second chance to get in.
• 2:02:48
  If you didn't make it through that, it's the last one now
• 2:02:51
  you're everybody's going to be gone through everything.
• 2:02:53
  And then that should pick up anybody that didn't have a good
• 2:02:57
  semi final, right? Or like there were if a semi
• 2:03:00
  certain semi final was stacked more than the other.
• 2:03:03
  I just wonder if there's a way to last work out of the
• 2:03:09
  quarterfinals you pick and like that's you enter into whatever 1
• 2:03:16
  you want to go into as your semi final or your quarterfinal.
• 2:03:22
  You don't like first place gets to have first pick and then
• 2:03:24
  everybody gets to. See it, I don't think it work.
• 2:03:26
  I don't think that works logistically.
• 2:03:27
  It's separate 2000 zone leaderboard, yeah.
• 2:03:33
  Oh, that's kind of interesting. It's it's it gets tough like
• 2:03:38
  seem as like this combo makes the games mountain look logical.
• 2:03:41
  It's like. Yeah, we just don't.
• 2:03:43
  Know there's no. How does it work with you have a
• 2:03:47
  field of 2000 people? Legitimately you probably have
• 2:03:50
  40-50 people that could make the games, but how do you give them
• 2:03:56
  an opportunity to qualify? You can't throw all 50 into 1
• 2:03:59
  semi final and say that's all you got.
• 2:04:02
  Right. You know, so if you have Adler,
• 2:04:06
  Dallin, Jason Roman Austin and they have to go to syndicate and
• 2:04:15
  they can only go to syndicate or they have to go to the online
• 2:04:18
  piece after that, only two or three qualify out of syndicate.
• 2:04:23
  And then you look over at, you know, one of the other European
• 2:04:28
  ones that doesn't have as much or Norcal and you're like, what
• 2:04:32
  the hell, There's like nobody there, right?
• 2:04:35
  Like, I don't know how you, you manage as if it's not, it's,
• 2:04:44
  it's going to be crazy trying to manage all of that from a
• 2:04:48
  worldwide perspective. Because if I'm, if I'm Wilson, I
• 2:04:51
  go all right, top 30, you're all invited.
• 2:04:55
  Yeah. Or Top 40 or whatever you want
• 2:04:58
  to invite. How do you even manage that?
• 2:05:05
  I know it was frustrating. I think about how many times
• 2:05:08
  people would say yes, no. And then pull out, Yeah.
• 2:05:11
  Right, so you go through and say all right, well I, I got 10 of
• 2:05:14
  the 30 that I got invited are going to come here, right So now
• 2:05:17
  next invites to try to find them next I got 10 more.
• 2:05:21
  So now another set of invites on.
• 2:05:23
  You're getting that from if and you're the top 35th athlete in
• 2:05:27
  the world. You're getting that from
• 2:05:29
  everybody then. How many weeks does semifinal
• 2:05:33
  span? We don't know it's in April
• 2:05:37
  through June, April through June.
• 2:05:39
  OK, so a a fair amount. So going back to what I like, I
• 2:05:43
  like the regionals thing was where it was like you were going
• 2:05:46
  here. That's it.
• 2:05:47
  And like it created this whole mystique of like the East.
• 2:05:50
  I'm going to Asia. Do it man.
• 2:05:52
  And then if somebody else goes to Asia, they do.
• 2:05:55
  It created this whole mystique of like, well, the the East, the
• 2:05:59
  central E was like the best region, but that there was an
• 2:06:01
  issue where it's like some people from the East probably
• 2:06:04
  should have gone to the games, but they didn't because they
• 2:06:06
  only qualified a certain amount of events.
• 2:06:08
  So you put the the Geo locked regions early, right?
• 2:06:13
  You run EW pretty pretty early week 1 or Week 2.
• 2:06:16
  Same thing in Europe. And then after that that's was
• 2:06:20
  Africa. The independent events can be
• 2:06:23
  like you can backfill to this. Now that's going to create a
• 2:06:26
  headache for them, but it's like for the people who are like, OK,
• 2:06:29
  I'm not going to make it against Dallin in the East, so I'm just
• 2:06:33
  going to pull out and go to this immediately.
• 2:06:35
  OK, cool, we'll let other people from the East file up.
• 2:06:39
  Does that make sense? Yeah.
• 2:06:42
  I just, I'm just trying to think through how difficult that would
• 2:06:45
  be to manage. If you put if you put them
• 2:06:48
  early, I think that alleviates some of it because people will
• 2:06:51
  decide pretty quick. It's like I don't have a chance
• 2:06:53
  in the East, so I'm just going to go.
• 2:06:55
  And then the people who want to go in the East will go anyway
• 2:06:57
  because they just want to go to semifinals, right?
• 2:07:00
  So that solves it for them. Now the I think you'll have
• 2:07:05
  limited turnover on the independent events because
• 2:07:09
  they're going to be later. I agree.
• 2:07:17
  Theoretically. Probably.
• 2:07:19
  Yeah, exactly. We don't know how to actually
• 2:07:20
  play out. Yeah, I just, I'm really curious
• 2:07:26
  to see how this all plays out. If it's, you know, I think
• 2:07:30
  Crossword will probably give them free rein again, because
• 2:07:33
  obviously if Cobra's inviting who they want, Norcal's able to
• 2:07:36
  invite somebody from Crash. It sounds like it's going to be
• 2:07:42
  up to the discretion of the competition, which I think I'm
• 2:07:46
  in agreement with with John. Like it's probably OK that way.
• 2:07:50
  I just don't know how they manage it if you don't Geo lock
• 2:07:55
  it and how it's going to be in in these regions that are super
• 2:08:00
  strong. Right.
• 2:08:02
  Right. So I'm hoping we get some
• 2:08:05
  information. I heard that all the
• 2:08:09
  applications were due yesterday at least that's the rumor out
• 2:08:12
  there to host a semi final. So I don't know what that what
• 2:08:18
  that all entails from approving it and the timing of that.
• 2:08:22
  But yeah, it's going to be they need how that plays out.
• 2:08:30
  They need to come up with a solution because like this one,
• 2:08:36
  like having to pivot, which events are actually doing it
• 2:08:39
  this year. Like that one gets really
• 2:08:41
  frustrating because it's like you kind of have to reassess
• 2:08:44
  everything every single year versus like, we know Mayhem's
• 2:08:46
  going to be here. We know Norcal's going to be
• 2:08:48
  here, We know Torian's going to be here, right?
• 2:08:50
  If you know you're going to you're going to have sorry,
• 2:08:53
  going back to my conference idea, CrossFit actually said it
• 2:08:56
  really good. Basically, when your conference
• 2:08:57
  or go at large, if you know that you have those few that are like
• 2:09:03
  these are locked and then you can go to these other ones like
• 2:09:06
  that. That settles it a little bit.
• 2:09:08
  And it's like, maybe you do have some turnover in the private
• 2:09:11
  events, but this fucking every like mayhem being first, like it
• 2:09:20
  was just, it was all over the place this year to me.
• 2:09:24
  Yeah, and you saw that I think some athletes were injured to
• 2:09:32
  not have to do mayhem, right, Because it was a just murderer's
• 2:09:37
  row of top athletes that if all of them show up, right, like you
• 2:09:42
  start inviting the top 20, it's basically rogue at that point
• 2:09:45
  for two spots. Like, why if I'm not ready for
• 2:09:48
  it, why even waste my time competing?
• 2:09:52
  I think people probably realize that.
• 2:09:53
  Like, if I'm not ready, like Haley admitted she wasn't ready
• 2:09:58
  at that point, there's probably no reason for her to try to
• 2:10:01
  compete multiple time over again, right?
• 2:10:04
  Gamer time is the only. Reason.
• 2:10:05
  I guess so. Or you could ask Luke Parker and
• 2:10:09
  just go to six of them and. Not do anything.
• 2:10:14
  Exactly. Exactly.
• 2:10:15
  Or Hannah Black. So that's it.
• 2:10:21
  That's it next week now, next week, October 8th.
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  Big news coming. Find out.
• 2:10:28
  Find out next week. We'll see you guys then.
• 2:10:31
  I apologize to absolutely nobody.