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[9/25] The Flight of the Garuda — Session 7 (Dec 2020) · Lama Lena Teachings

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  SPEAKER_01: We'll see in a minute.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's about what I remember that we spent a couple of weeks on that one
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  SPEAKER_00: because it's rather involved and maybe unfamiliar to some of us.
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  SPEAKER_00: Before all dharma,
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  SPEAKER_00: take refuge and arise bodhisitta.
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  SPEAKER_00: With whatever monlam you are accustomed to working with, or none, just do it in your heart.
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  SPEAKER_00: But that is the beginning and the end of everything.
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  SPEAKER_00: Shere singe bardu shin lep dee, dee damab zan ta ta tu sum chi.
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  SPEAKER_00: Zogchen jupe lama la sol wadib.
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  SPEAKER_00: Urgin pema juni la sol wadib.
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  SPEAKER_00: Durjichang chitalo narudang.
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  SPEAKER_00: Marpa Milagompo Tsatsapa,
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  SPEAKER_00: Na Pupadang Pal Dendrupasuk,
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  SPEAKER_00: Kargyu Lama Namla Soluwadeb,
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  SPEAKER_00: Ochen Lama Namla Soluwadeb,
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  SPEAKER_00: Dhrudchen Lama Namla Soluadeb.
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  SPEAKER_00: Dhrudchen Lama Namla Soluadeb.
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  SPEAKER_00: Dhrudchen Lama Namla Soluadeb.
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  SPEAKER_00: Dhrudchen Lama Namla Soul
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  SPEAKER_00: Odeb,
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  SPEAKER_00: Pal kondujong dang yer me pa,
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  SPEAKER_00: Gan garag door jizintrag pa,
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  SPEAKER_00: Jeti dang nisu me pae, The three jewels in all their aspects.
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  SPEAKER_00: Feel it.
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  SPEAKER_00: All beings arise, as all Buddhas of the four times, in the dance of spontaneous liveliness.
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  SPEAKER_00: The efforts of Bodhisitta shine forth effortlessly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Be it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: Did we get a confirmation for our Chapter 8?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, some people are saying they worked with Jiani Buddhas before,
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  SPEAKER_01: which would have been the previous one.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, good.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because that was a long one.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't necessarily want to do it over.
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  SPEAKER_00: Go listen to the tape if you feel uncertain of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's important.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you don't exactly remember it, tape's out there.
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  SPEAKER_00: Tape, video, you can tell I'm old.
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  SPEAKER_00: Are there even tape recorders anymore?
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  SPEAKER_00: Does that even exist?
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  SPEAKER_00: Probably not.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's all computer-based now.
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  SPEAKER_00: Wonder what it'll be in another 50 years.
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  SPEAKER_00: I remember my first Commodore 64.
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  SPEAKER_00: It played some kind of little game where things ate each other.
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  SPEAKER_00: Emma Ho, once again, beloved sons and daughters, listen with devotion.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your devotion is not to a God bigger than you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your devotion is to the very life
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  SPEAKER_00: force of the universe in all its vast Open awareness,
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  SPEAKER_00: lucidity, and in the sparkling dance of manifestation.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is not other than you.
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  SPEAKER_00: The dichotomy between subject and object is not real.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's something you made up not long, long ago and far, far away.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's something you make up Oops that occurs naturally to you by habit in each and every moment.
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  SPEAKER_00: The moment you cease doing that, full enlightenment is obvious.
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  SPEAKER_00: So cut it out.
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  SPEAKER_00: Stop separating, stop disassociating yourself from the phenomena around you.
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  SPEAKER_00: You are made of that.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is made of you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Interconnected intrinsically.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not that you have to do something to see this.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a matter of stopping doing something.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mind in its insubstantiality is like the sky.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is it?
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't take my word for this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Look for yourself.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is that a true or a false statement?
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  SPEAKER_00: Check it out by relaxing completely and looking directly at the mind with your mind
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  SPEAKER_00: as your mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: Gazing with your entire mind free of all tension.
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  SPEAKER_00: Relax.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't point.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't go bird dog on this.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not like a pointer pointing at a squirrel.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like sliding backwards into a warm bath.
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  SPEAKER_00: Relax and relax again.
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  SPEAKER_00: Relax, especially your eyeballs, which are always busy focusing on this and that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Stop it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't do that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Relax them.
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  SPEAKER_00: Allow your attention to expand fully into your peripheral vision.
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  SPEAKER_00: And beyond that.
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  SPEAKER_00: The words I'm saying,
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  SPEAKER_00: which you are thinking about,
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  SPEAKER_00: thinking to yourself,
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  SPEAKER_00: those very thoughts that you're thinking right now, where they be happening?
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm specifically using be rather than are.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not where are they happening.
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  SPEAKER_00: When you use be in this way grammatically,
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  SPEAKER_00: it refers to a state of being that is normal for that.
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  SPEAKER_00: If I say John be down at the corner store,
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  SPEAKER_00: I am implying not only is John at the corner store right now,
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  SPEAKER_00: but that is where you can usually find him.
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  SPEAKER_00: If I say John has gone or is at the corner store, I mean that that's where he is right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: He might have gone to pick something up for me or for him.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not that he tends to hang there.
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  SPEAKER_00: So notice I'm using this particular English tense on purpose.
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  SPEAKER_00: Where your thoughts be happenin'.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is mind as mind looking at mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is not a view like looking out the window at the trees and the traffic.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is no separation here between subject and object, for you are your mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your thoughts, your feelings, and your perceptions
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  SPEAKER_00: Arise in mind and dissolve in mind, do they?
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  SPEAKER_00: You all go look and see if this is true.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is not a place to take my word for anything.
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  SPEAKER_00: Have a look.
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  SPEAKER_00: Find out by your own experience.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the only way you're ever going to be really sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: Might be talking through my hat.
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  SPEAKER_00: You don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Look and see.
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  SPEAKER_00: Follow your thoughts home
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  SPEAKER_00: into a vast indescribable expansiveness which is not
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  SPEAKER_00: a big dead old nothing but vibrant and alive with the lucidity of its ability
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  SPEAKER_00: to think.
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  SPEAKER_00: We call symbolically this lucidity clear light.
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  SPEAKER_00: Transparent light,
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  SPEAKER_00: like between my hands,
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  SPEAKER_00: illuminates whatever is placed in that place, but is not visible as itself.
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  SPEAKER_00: Clear, transparent light is the symbol
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  SPEAKER_00: Of the innate and vibrant lucidity,
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  SPEAKER_00: ability to think,
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  SPEAKER_00: ability to feel,
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  SPEAKER_00: and ability to perceive
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  SPEAKER_00: of the infinite open awareness of mind itself.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Please look and notice this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Having noticed, relax.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't grab it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't try to stabilize it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Keep it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Focus on it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hang on to it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Talk to yourself about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Juggle it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just relax with it.
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  SPEAKER_00: As it.
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  SPEAKER_00: The emptiness of the mind is not just a blank nothingness,
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  SPEAKER_00: not a void,
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  SPEAKER_00: not black or white,
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  SPEAKER_00: for without doubt it is the primal awareness of intrinsic awareness,
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  SPEAKER_00: that very lucidity which naturally
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  SPEAKER_00: Thinks, feels,
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  SPEAKER_00: and perceives, radiant from the first, bright, awake, aware, alive, vital, lively.
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  SPEAKER_00: Self-existent natural radiance is like sunlight.
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  SPEAKER_00: You cannot cup it in your hand and see it there, but it illuminates everything else.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is this indeed true?
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  SPEAKER_00: Check it out.
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  SPEAKER_00: Relax completely.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're looking directly at the nature of your mind with your mind as your mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not an eyeball exercise.
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  SPEAKER_00: Looking is the word used to mean look, feel, proceed.
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  SPEAKER_00: Being a visually oriented species, we see people coming.
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  SPEAKER_00: My dog, being very nearsighted, used to smell people coming.
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  SPEAKER_00: Completely different.
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  SPEAKER_00: If I were teaching to a dog, I would say, smell it.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I'm teaching to a Homo sapien.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I say, see it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Momentary sadness, my coffee is empty.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mind, mind looking.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your mind is your own mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your mind is both that which you are looking at and looking as
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  SPEAKER_00: and looking with.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is euphemistically called gazing into your own eyes.
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  SPEAKER_00: That doesn't mean go get a mirror.
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  SPEAKER_00: Relax.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't grab it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't make anything fancy out of it by using big words to
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  SPEAKER_01: describe it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Words you have read, you have told, been told are the right words.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here, there are no right words.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're all approximations.
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  Relax.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is a natural state.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is the natural state which underlies, overlies,
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  SPEAKER_00: all states.
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  SPEAKER_00: Which does not come and go.
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  SPEAKER_00: You might not be looking at it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right now I'm indoors inside my house.
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  SPEAKER_00: The sun is outside in the sky.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I am not looking at the sun right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it's still there.
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  SPEAKER_00: It didn't go away.
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  SPEAKER_00: This
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  SPEAKER_00: Vast open awareness in all its brilliant lucidity and the sparkle of phenomenon
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  SPEAKER_00: which is inherent to it.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is always there.
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  SPEAKER_00: Never goes away.
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  SPEAKER_00: You cannot lose it and you cannot gain it.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can only Notice it,
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  SPEAKER_00: frequently to create a habit of noticing it,
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  SPEAKER_00: which develops the necessary sureness of the real refuge.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is no doubt that it is impossible to objectify or grasp thought or the movement of memory.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's nothing substantial there to get your hands on.
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  SPEAKER_00: If there were, you could grab a thought and hold it out.
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  SPEAKER_00: But you can't, can you?
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  SPEAKER_00: You see, thoughts, they are without substance.
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  SPEAKER_00: They lack atomic structure.
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  SPEAKER_00: They are not made of molecules or matter.
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  SPEAKER_00: They also have no duration in time,
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  SPEAKER_00: being momentary apparitions
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  SPEAKER_00: which follow so closely one upon each other,
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  SPEAKER_00: creating nam talk thought chains stuck together Bits without duration of thought
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  SPEAKER_00: that appear to have consistence and duration.
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  SPEAKER_00: They appear to make sense,
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  SPEAKER_00: but when you take acid,
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  SPEAKER_00: drop psilocybin, peyote,
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  SPEAKER_00: whatever your psychedelic of choice is or has been,
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  SPEAKER_00: you think different thoughts in different ways, which makes sense at that time.
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  SPEAKER_00: But not so much later on.
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  SPEAKER_00: For those of you who do not have an interest in psychedelics, dreaming, dreamtime.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your dreams make sense to themselves and to you while you're dreaming.
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  SPEAKER_00: But when you wake up and remember them,
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  SPEAKER_00: the inherent logic is not always apparent.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just thoughts.
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  SPEAKER_00: Dancing is no thing in nowhere.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thoughts are considered the sparkle of the luminosity, its shimmer.
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  SPEAKER_00: For thoughts are moving, so are feelings, so are perceptions always changing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Where they be happening,
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  SPEAKER_00: the infinite openness And the ability to think, feel, and perceive are not changing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or are they?
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  SPEAKER_00: Go have a look.
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  SPEAKER_00: See for yourself what moves
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  SPEAKER_00: and what does not.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is important,
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  SPEAKER_00: otherwise you will begin to confuse the subtle idea
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  SPEAKER_00: open awareness,
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  SPEAKER_00: with open awareness.
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  SPEAKER_00: The idea comes and goes.
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  SPEAKER_00: The open awareness is always there for it is that which is doing the thinking,
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  SPEAKER_00: feeling and perceiving.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or you will come to Believe that your subtle feeling of relaxation and openness is
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  SPEAKER_00: the openness itself rather than a feeling about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oops, you have confused the moving with the stillness.
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  SPEAKER_00: You may even find that you are able to directly perceive the open awareness
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  SPEAKER_00: And you think that your perception of open awareness is the open awareness.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oops.
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  SPEAKER_00: Perceptions move.
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  SPEAKER_00: They come and go.
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  SPEAKER_00: You cannot stabilize a thought, a feeling, or a perception.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you place
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  SPEAKER_00: A blue object in front of you and perceive it being blue.
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  SPEAKER_00: You cannot spend the rest of your life going around with your hands holding the blue object.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nor can you spend the rest of your life thinking blue,
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  SPEAKER_00: blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, and holding the thought of blue.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nor can you maintain the feeling that that particular shade of blue arises for you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because these are moving.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can never stabilize the moving.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when we talk about stabilizing Zogchen,
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  SPEAKER_00: which is one of those places where the words are sufficiently inexact
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  SPEAKER_00: that everybody trips over them,
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  SPEAKER_00: People think that there is something that they get that they're supposed
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  SPEAKER_00: to make hold still.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you got it, it moved.
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  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't there and then you got it.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's moving.
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  SPEAKER_00: It ain't gonna hold still.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it might for a day or a week, but not forever.
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  SPEAKER_00: Remember basic long rim for turning minds?
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  SPEAKER_00: Anything that comes is gonna go.
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  SPEAKER_00: Anything that is put together or created is gonna come apart.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is basic impermanence.
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  SPEAKER_00: Stabilizing Zogchen refers to finding,
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  SPEAKER_00: noticing that which does not move And developing a level of absolute certainty
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  SPEAKER_00: of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Stand up.
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  SPEAKER_00: Take a walk around the room.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just walk a few steps.
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  SPEAKER_00: Walk around your table or get up and take a little walk.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then come back and sit down.
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  SPEAKER_00: When you walked, how did you make those movements of taking a step?
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  SPEAKER_00: Stand up and do it again.
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  SPEAKER_00: Feel it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Feel how you put a foot out in front of you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Lean towards that foot by leaning forwards and it goes to the floor with your weight.
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  SPEAKER_00: And once your weight is on that foot,
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  SPEAKER_00: you pick up the other foot, extend it forward and lean a bit towards it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Feel that?
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  SPEAKER_00: You are absolutely 100% counting on gravity to walk.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you were in a space station without gravity, you could not have walked like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: You are so sure of gravity.
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  SPEAKER_00: You weren't thinking about gravity to take a step.
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  SPEAKER_00: Didn't even enter your mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: You were thinking, I'm going to walk around the room like the Lama said.
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  SPEAKER_00: I wonder why she has me doing this, except for the few of you I've had do this before.
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  SPEAKER_00: How'd you get so sure of gravity?
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  SPEAKER_00: Do you remember?
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  SPEAKER_00: You sat in your high chair,
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  SPEAKER_00: and you extended your arm holding peas,
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  SPEAKER_00: spoon, toy, bottle, anything to hand, and you let go.
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  SPEAKER_00: And every damn time it went down, And you yourself attempted to go somewhere.
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  SPEAKER_00: You went down too.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that damn gravity was there all the time.
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  SPEAKER_00: You may even have attempted to fly by jumping off of something.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because you didn't know you couldn't.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we all did that as little ones.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your little ones are doing it if you have them.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're discovering and becoming certain of gravity.
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  SPEAKER_01: How long did it take before you automatically walked without thinking about gravity?
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  SPEAKER_00: A couple of years of habitually, continuously noticing that everything goes down.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, do it again.
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  SPEAKER_00: Habitually,
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  SPEAKER_00: continuously notice
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  SPEAKER_00: infinite open awareness that's always there until you're as sure
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  SPEAKER_00: of that as you are of gravity.
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  SPEAKER_00: This capricious changeable movement, the moving in Mahamudra that I'm pointing at.
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  SPEAKER_00: Phenomena.
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  SPEAKER_00: Moving.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thoughts, feelings, and perceptions are what we call inner and outer phenomena.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thoughts and feelings we call inner phenomena Because they feel like they're inside of you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Perceptions,
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  SPEAKER_00: object,
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  SPEAKER_00: we call outer phenomena because it feels like they are outside of you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Actually, perceptions.
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  SPEAKER_00: And thoughts and feelings are not as separate as you think you are, as you think they are.
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  SPEAKER_00: How do you perceive an object?
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  SPEAKER_00: Here's an object.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was made by a beautiful artist friend of mine, Flying Lizard.
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  SPEAKER_00: Can you see the object?
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  SPEAKER_00: Look at the object.
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  SPEAKER_00: How do you see the object?
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  SPEAKER_00: Never mind what the computers are doing and the internet and the signal transmission.
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  SPEAKER_00: Pick up an object that's lying around in front of you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Pick up your mouse or your iPad, something you've got, your device.
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  SPEAKER_01: Look at that object.
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  SPEAKER_00: In your retina there are rods and cones.
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  SPEAKER_00: The light,
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  SPEAKER_00: whether it be wavelengths or particles in a given moment
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  SPEAKER_00: or something else altogether, bounces off the object.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the rods in your eyes see light and dark Creating a shape.
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  SPEAKER_00: The cones see color creating the color.
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  SPEAKER_00: This sends little puffs of chi through the channels from your eyes
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  SPEAKER_00: that go around back here
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  SPEAKER_00: where they resolve back here Into an image.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is where little puffs of chi turns into a picture.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_00: It then is transmitted down to here,
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_00: where assessment,
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_00: feelings, and all the rest going on with the picture occurs.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_00: That's going on inside of you.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_00: The feelings get involved down here about the object.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_00: The puffs of chi of light and dark and color resolve into a image,
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_00: an object, but don't get named quite yet here.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_00: It takes on its shape,
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_00: perceived as shape,
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_00: But it's only as it comes down here through the chi into here
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_00: that it gets its name,
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_00: glass.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_00: And then you make assumptions with your thoughts.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_00: What's in the glass?
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_00: What's Lama Lena drinking?
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_00: Isopate glass, you can't tell.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_00: What's it got in its glass?
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_00: You all have some idea.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_00: Everything from vodka through whiskey to wine to soda water to juice.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_00: And depending on what you think's in the glass depends on how you feel about it.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_00: Think, this glass contains a really nice single malt.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_00: No ice.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_00: Pure single malt.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_00: Good stuff.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_00: Gives you one feeling.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_00: Now think.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_00: This gas contains plain water because Lama Lena gets thirsty when she's talking.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_00: Different set of feelings.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's all mixed in together.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_00: Your perception is named in the first instance,
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_00: actually called the ignorance that accompanies each perception,
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_00: where you perceive an object
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_00: And you name it.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_00: You think what it is.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe you're right, maybe you're not.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_00: Actually,
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_00: this is a salt cellar with a particularly interesting black lava salt
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_00: that I quite like on my supper.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_00: Being a bit of a cook as a hobby, I have an interesting collection of salts.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_00: And this has magic in it.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_00: How do you feel about it?
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_00: How do you see it?
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_00: What do you think it is?
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_00: Homegrown digestive anise seeds to have a pinch after beans so you don't fart so much.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_00: Good.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_00: Non-farting magic.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_00: Now, look at how you perceived all this,
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_00: how much thought and feeling was interwoven with that perception.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_00: Object.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_00: Perception.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_00: See how much?
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_00: This is why there is no ability to objectify or grasp thought or the movements
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_00: of memory with their attendant feelings and memories of perceptions.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_00: It never happened the way you remember it.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_00: Go watch a movie with five friends that nobody's seen before.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you can do this online.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_00: Discuss what happened in the movie.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_00: You're all going to remember it different.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_00: Some similarities, but not exactly the same.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_00: What really happened?
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_00: And then you get into other people's feelings.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_00: How does so-and-so feel about such and such?
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, doggies, you're never going to know.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_00: This movement.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like the cosmic wind.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like the buzz of Rika.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, go look out the window or go stick your head out the door.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_00: I'll wait.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_00: Go look up into the sky.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_00: You will see.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_00: Little bitty,
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_00: teeny tiny,
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_00: fast moving specks of brightness that almost seem to have
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_00: a little dark shadow attached to them.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_00: They're really fast, they're really tiny, and there's billions of them.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_00: They're called rica.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_00: Not the slow drifting bubbles that are called tigglies.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not talking about those.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_00: I'm talking about the rica.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_00: Go look.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_00: We're going to take a break.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_00: In the amount of time it'll take me to walk out there and look, I figure it'll take you.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_00: Go just stand relaxed.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_00: Open your gaze at the sky.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_00: That is not a point focus.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_00: You can't see them in point focus.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_00: Open it up.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_00: See the rica.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_00: They're important.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_00: Very important in song chats.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_00: Five minutes to get yourself to a piece of sky.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_00: Ah, three minutes.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's not going to take that long.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_00: Windows will do, probably, if it's not too dirty a window.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_00: If your window's really dirty, open it.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_00: Mine are really dirty.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, it's fine.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_00: You can come or not.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_00: It feels like
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_01: it's strong.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_00: Did you all see the Rika?
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_00: There's no word in English for them.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta do.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_00: Rika is actually Sanskrit.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_00: Have you any questions about Rika?
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_01: There is one that just came up.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_01: Is it possible to see the Rika at night at times when it's dark?
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_01: Looking at the sky.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_00: In fact, at dusk,
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_00: just as it's getting dark when it's hard to see but there's still enough light
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_00: to see a bit,
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_00: You can see the Rika inside.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_00: Don't turn on your electric lights at dusk or turn them off for a minute
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_00: and just sort of gaze around the room.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_00: Gaze at something blank.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_00: Don't gaze at the decorations.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_00: Gaze at, oh, the ceiling.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_00: Once you're used to seeing them,
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I can just barely see them with the lights on here.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's easier in the dark.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_00: If there's clouds, they're easier to see.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_00: If there's stars, the stars will interfere with your seeing them, looking at the sky.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_00: You generally find it easiest to see the Rika against a blank background,
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_00: like the sky or a wall.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_00: Or the ceiling if you don't have one of those interesting sparkly textured ceilings.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_00: Anything else on Rika there?
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_01: No, surprisingly, not yet.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_01: There's a couple of other questions that are more general.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_00: Let me do the general questions for a few minutes.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_01: Earlier you were talking about making an oops.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_01: While doing the mind looking at mind?
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_01: During that experience.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_01: And the question is, how can I be sure I'm not making an oops?
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_01: How can I detect when I'm making an oops?
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_00: Oops goes away again.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_00: Oops is moving.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_00: If it comes and goes, it's not the real one.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_00: Keep looking.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_00: That doesn't mean that you're not doing Treksha.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_00: Treksha has to mature.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_00: We all start out focusing our treachery subtly on our perception or our feeling
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_00: or our thoughts about open awareness.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_00: And you just keep going.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_00: You keep doing it.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_00: It deepens.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_00: It opens until after a time
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_00: you begin to notice that whenever you look, in quotes,
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's always the same.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's not changing.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's inherent and intrinsically there at all times.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_00: That's the certainty we're talking about in this chapter.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_00: That certainty which is both intellectual, emotional, and almost perceptible like gravity.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_00: Merges with the reality of it and your treacher stabilizes.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_00: You don't stabilize treacher.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_00: When your treacher is stable,
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_00: the separation between perceiver,
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_00: the one who looks and that which is looked at,
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_00: perceiver and perceived, It fades away.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_00: That's Rochique, one taste.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_00: Perceiver and Perceived taste the same.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_00: That's when it's real.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_00: And not overlaying by a subtle thought, feeling, or perception.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_01: So just keep going, keep practicing.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's an oops only if you think
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_00: that the subtle idea is the real thing and try to hold it still.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_00: If you relax into the subtle idea more and more
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_00: and either hit it with pet or pray
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_00: to your teacher's heart Mind to enter and bless yours and become one with
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_00: the lineage at which point it expands into its natural state.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_00: Mahamudra does it with manlam, with repetition of words.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_00: Dzogchen Maha'ati does it with the seed syllable pe.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_00: You can find more in-depth teachings In the three words of Garab Dorji,
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_00: which is all over the website.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_00: Several different ones,
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_00: including a beautiful one by my own teacher,
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_00: given in Guru Rinpoche's cave to Tibetans,
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_00: with me sort of on the background translating to a dozen Westerners who turned up.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_00: That is well worth watching.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_00: What else have we got for a question?
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_01: So going back to the Rika, what are Rika?
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_01: Why are they significant?
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_01: What's the explanation for them?
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_00: They are a symbol of the innate vitality which pervades and is not differentiated
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_00: between perceiver and perceive ed.
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  SPEAKER_00: They are a symbol
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_00: of the sparkle of awareness.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_00: The moving in which no thing moves.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_00: There's no actual little dot buzzing around up there.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_00: And yet they are very perceivable.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_00: They are neither exactly inside Nor exactly outside.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_00: And we have one more.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_01: And a number of questions about people who saw things, but were they seeing the right things?
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_01: What about a purple spot that turns... Nope.
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_01: Nope.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_01: That's a no.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_01: And other questions where they saw the dots but didn't see a lot of them.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_00: If those dots are big and move slowly, they are not Rika.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_00: They are Tiggly.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_00: And that's a whole different set of symbolic practices.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_00: Not this one.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_00: Don't confuse them.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think if you're not seeing them
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_00: as a whole lot of them continuously moving
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_00: so you can't focus on a single one, I don't think that's Rika you're seeing.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what you're seeing.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_00: Anything else on Rika?
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_01: How to spell it?
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_01: R-I-K-A.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's spelled in Sanskrit.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_00: I would spell it R-I-K-A.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_00: But that's a guess in English.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_00: And since I don't spell in Sanskrit, I can't tell you how to spell it in Sanskrit either.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_00: So
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_01: on a different topic, does that mean that Treksha is stable when one taste is continuous?
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 53:41
  SPEAKER_00: Treacher goes through levels of maturity as you practice.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_00: In the beginning, it's a very transitory glimpse and then you're distracted.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_00: As you learn to relax more and more into it,
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_00: not to focus into it, but to relax more and more into it,
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_00: With ease.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_00: Naturally.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_00: Simply by doing it again and again.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_00: It matures from Shinne without an object.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_00: Shinne is resting in stillness without any object at all since there is no object
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_00: which is still.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_00: That matures into direct seeing, Laktong.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'm using Mahamudra terms here.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_00: I'll switch to Dzogchen terms in a minute.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_00: The way you mature without an object
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_00: is become very clear what is moving and what is not moving.
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_00: And then
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_00: Having been absolutely clear that thoughts,
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_00: feelings,
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_00: and perceptions, or inner and outer phenomena, all phenomena, don't hold still.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_00: And yet that the stillness underlies all phenomena and that all phenomena arises in
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_00: the stillness as stillness and that there is no actual thing which moves.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_00: And so, Stillness and moving become one.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_00: Then it's lactant.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_00: First you separate it to become certain which is which and then you notice
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_00: that they're the same thing.
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_00: In that order in Mahamudra.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_00: Having noticed that they are the same thing and not before this,
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_00: you then Look at the notice-er.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_00: That matures lactong into one taste,
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_00: where you see that the notice-ed and the notice-er are also a single thing, entity,
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_00: not a thingy,
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_00: a single undifferentiated,
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_00: no, single interconnected, interwoven through time and space awareness.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_00: In Dzogchen,
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_00: we start directly with Lakdong.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_00: We don't go through the stage of Xine without an object.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_00: Your teacher points out to you in such a way that you see it.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_00: Your mind, thinker of your thoughts, feeler of your feelings, perceiver of your perceptions.
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_00: Just as it is,
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_00: the transmission of the four wongs are given.
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_00: This is done by the pointing out, which is what we are doing today, now.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_00: We are doing the pointing out instructions.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_00: We are working our way through the four wongs.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_01: The fourth wong is telepathic.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_00: It does not fit in words.
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_00: It is thought but not confirmed that it will transmit across the internet in
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_00: a single time such as when we're both on and working together.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_00: It is theoretically possible for it to transmit through a recorded video.
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_00: But not everyone is able to catch it that way.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_00: For some people that has worked.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_00: Whoever
• 58:43
  SPEAKER_00: successfully shows you your own mind in such a way that you glimpse it,
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_00: as it is, that person is your root guru.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_00: You're only a virgin once.
• 59:05
  SPEAKER_00: Same thing for glimpsing for the first time nature of mind.
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_00: You may have many other teachers.
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_00: You may have many heart gurus.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_00: Heart gurus are the ones who encourage you and hold your hand along the path
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_00: and give you teachings and for whom you have deep loving respect.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_00: You may have many lovers in your life, but somebody was first.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_00: Hi Douglas, if you're out there.
• 59:49
  SPEAKER_00: Memories.
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_00: There is no doubt that it is impossible To objectify or grasp thought or
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_00: the movements of memory.
• 1:00:06
  SPEAKER_00: Remember your first lover right now.
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_00: Remember their face.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_00: Their parts.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_00: Think that's accurate?
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_00: They've aged 50 years by now.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_00: I bet you they don't look like that anymore.
• 1:00:46
  Bet you they didn't look like that then.
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_00: Some of us see the past through rose-colored glasses.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_00: Optimistically rewriting it inside ourselves the way it should have been,
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_00: might have been, would have been.
• 1:01:07
  SPEAKER_00: Some of us see the past through brown or dark colored glasses,
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_00: complaining to ourselves about all that was done wrong by us and others.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_00: It didn't happen either one of those ways.
• 1:01:29
  SPEAKER_00: You can't catch it.
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_00: You can't grab a bit of it.
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's not a thing you can grasp in your hand.
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_00: As Lama Rabjur Dorji always said, you can't even sit on it.
• 1:01:47
  SPEAKER_00: These capriciable,
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_00: changeable movements,
• 1:01:51
  SPEAKER_00: like the cosmic wind, like Rika, Always moving, not going anywhere.
• 1:01:59
  SPEAKER_00: Not made of anything.
• 1:02:00
  SPEAKER_00: That's why Rika are such a good symbol.
• 1:02:04
  SPEAKER_00: Phenomena is the sparkle of clear light.
• 1:02:09
  SPEAKER_00: Clear light is inherent to open awareness.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_00: This is Dharmakaya, Sambhogakaya, Nirmanakaya.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_00: This is your mind.
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_00: No thing.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_00: Dancing forever and nowhere.
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_00: But is this true?
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_00: Don't take my word for it.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_00: Check it out.
• 1:02:43
  SPEAKER_00: To confirm or disprove this to yourself,
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_00: relax completely looking directly at the nature of your mind.
• 1:02:58
  SPEAKER_00: Don't try to stop thinking while you do this.
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_00: Don't follow your thoughts either.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_00: Look right through them at mind itself.
• 1:04:10
  SPEAKER_00: Without a doubt, all appearance whatsoever
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_00: are our own manifestations.
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_00: All phenomena,
• 1:04:22
  SPEAKER_00: both inner and outer,
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_00: whatever manifests in the way of thoughts,
• 1:04:28
  SPEAKER_00: feelings, and perceptions, seeing,
• 1:04:36
  SPEAKER_00: hearing,
• 1:04:41
  SPEAKER_00: Feeling.
• 1:04:47
  SPEAKER_00: All of the sixth sense organ stimulations.
• 1:05:00
  SPEAKER_00: Whatever manifests like reflections in a mirror.
• 1:05:06
  SPEAKER_00: Your mandala, your outards,
• 1:05:14
  SPEAKER_00: How you perceive them,
• 1:05:16
  SPEAKER_00: what you perceive them as,
• 1:05:17
  SPEAKER_00: what you notice, how you feel about it, what you think about it.
• 1:05:26
  SPEAKER_01: Mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like the reflection in a mirror.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your mandala is you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or is it?
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  SPEAKER_00: Check it out.
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  SPEAKER_00: To find out if this is true or not,
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  SPEAKER_00: relax completely looking directly at the nature of mind without deleting
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  SPEAKER_00: the arising phenomena.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't point.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't focus.
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  SPEAKER_00: Relax into open awareness,
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  SPEAKER_00: which is in no way separate
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  SPEAKER_00: from the vitality inherent to it,
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  SPEAKER_00: which sparkles.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the dance of phenomena is but the sparkle.
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  SPEAKER_00: Of that clear light of vitality which pervades the infinite openness,
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  SPEAKER_00: the vast expanse of mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: As far as your imagination extends, your mind extends.
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  SPEAKER_00: As far as your mind extends, Dharmakaya extends.
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  SPEAKER_00: Pervaded by the clear,
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  SPEAKER_00: transparent light of vitality,
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  SPEAKER_00: which manifests as the sparkle of phenomena, arising and vanishing as new things.
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  SPEAKER_00: In nowhere.
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  SPEAKER_00: No experience is possible anywhere but in the mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: So there is nothing to see other than at the moment of vision.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now.
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  SPEAKER_00: This now.
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  SPEAKER_00: This very exact now.
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  SPEAKER_00: This moment.
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  SPEAKER_00: In its entirety.
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  SPEAKER_00: Of infinite open awareness.
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  SPEAKER_00: Lucid and alive with phenomena, sparkling and dancing, arising and changing.
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  SPEAKER_00: There are no things which move.
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  SPEAKER_00: No experience is possible anywhere but in the mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: So there is nothing to meditate upon other than the mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mind, mind looking.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not this mind looking at that mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't disassociate from your own mind here.
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  SPEAKER_00: You are the looker.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the looked at.
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  SPEAKER_00: No separation.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're not sitting here as Joe looking at Dharmakaya.
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  SPEAKER_00: You are the vitality of the universe.
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  SPEAKER_00: Perceiving both Dharmakaya and its manifestation as Joe.
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  SPEAKER_00: The same.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: No experience is possible anywhere but in the mind,
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  SPEAKER_00: so there is nothing to do other than what is done in the mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: Relax.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let go.
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  SPEAKER_00: Allow each moment to arise in its entirety of open awareness,
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  SPEAKER_00: shimmering and sparkling with phenomena.
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  SPEAKER_00: You are the awareness that perceives the infinitude of the sparkle.
• 1:11:43
  SPEAKER_00: No experience is possible anywhere but in mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: So there is no Samya relationship to be sustained outside of the mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: In Tantra, there are many vows, root and branch.
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  SPEAKER_00: In Dzogchen, as part of the Four Wongs, there is one Samaya,
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  SPEAKER_00: never to separate from mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: Since you are your mind, you can't break that Samaya.
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  SPEAKER_00: Can you?
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  SPEAKER_00: No experience is possible anywhere but in the mind,
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  SPEAKER_00: so there is no goal to be reached other than
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  SPEAKER_00: this very
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  SPEAKER_00: mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: Look, look, and look again.
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  SPEAKER_00: Look at your own mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: You are that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not look at.
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  SPEAKER_00: Look at the looker.
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  SPEAKER_00: Stopping for questions.
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  SPEAKER_01: Are there any?
• 1:14:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 1:14:04
  SPEAKER_01: Does the inherent stability automatically carry over into dreams and sleep,
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  SPEAKER_01: or is it only daytime?
• 1:14:13
  SPEAKER_00: It will automatically carry over into dreams and sleep.
• 1:14:20
  SPEAKER_00: However, no pushing the river or getting all upset because you're not there yet.
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  SPEAKER_00: Give it time.
• 1:14:32
  SPEAKER_00: No pushing the river.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let it be natural.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now there are things you can do to encourage that,
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  SPEAKER_00: such as working with the seed symbols in the chakras of dream yoga.
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  SPEAKER_00: Next.
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  SPEAKER_01: If I understand correctly,
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  SPEAKER_01: I try to relax in an open awareness and pop it with peh after it gives some sort
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  SPEAKER_01: of trance.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you get stuck
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  SPEAKER_00: in an experience
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  SPEAKER_00: and the traditional ones are four categories
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  SPEAKER_00: of experience, bliss states,
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  SPEAKER_00: Devanyam.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not thinking at all, a sort of a zoned out, dull, blankness.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mictopanyam.
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  SPEAKER_00: Selvanyam.
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  SPEAKER_00: Which is a perception of great clarity and wisdom.
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  SPEAKER_00: And grouchnyam.
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  SPEAKER_00: Which is a sort of a
• 1:16:05
  SPEAKER_00: and it's delicious and you don't want to stop thinking
• 1:16:08
  SPEAKER_00: about all the and then he left the toothpaste tube top off and and
• 1:16:13
  SPEAKER_00: the bit never got named and there's this crap over here
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  SPEAKER_00: and it's delicious
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  SPEAKER_00: and satisfying and almost addictive.
• 1:16:25
  SPEAKER_00: So these are the four categories of nyams that people get into,
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  SPEAKER_00: plus a whole bunch of other weird ones,
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  SPEAKER_00: like a blue dot that hangs there and never goes away while you're practicing,
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  SPEAKER_00: or a light that comes in from here and then it does this seven things and
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  SPEAKER_00: then it goes over there.
• 1:16:49
  SPEAKER_00: I get a lot of descriptions of these occasional nyams,
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  SPEAKER_00: which are Eminently creative, like artwork, but it's a nyam, it's an experience.
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  SPEAKER_00: You treat them all the same.
• 1:17:04
  SPEAKER_00: First, don't grab it and try to further it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Recognize it for an experience that comes and goes.
• 1:17:14
  SPEAKER_00: How can you recognize this?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because sometimes it's there and sometimes it's not.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's moving.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can, if one of those begins to get stuck or habituate, break it with the seed syllable pe.
• 1:17:40
  SPEAKER_00: However,
• 1:17:41
  SPEAKER_00: for this seed syllable to work in this practice,
• 1:17:46
  SPEAKER_00: it needs certain very specific characteristics.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sudden, Short, Sharp, and Fierce.
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  SPEAKER_00: These four characteristics are necessary.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's done like this.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you have to do it out loud.
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  SPEAKER_00: Silently doesn't work.
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  SPEAKER_00: Pet!
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  SPEAKER_00: You strike the experience while looking directly at it.
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  SPEAKER_00: It pops the experience,
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  SPEAKER_00: and so for a moment,
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  SPEAKER_00: until you stick something else there among the movings,
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  SPEAKER_00: behind the experience, no thing at all is notable.
• 1:18:52
  SPEAKER_00: Now, this is a secret practice.
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  SPEAKER_00: So don't be out doing it in public.
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  SPEAKER_00: This you do on your cushion when you are stuck in a nyam.
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  SPEAKER_00: If your nyam is just coming and going, like it arises, there's a blue dot, it fades away.
• 1:19:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't bother with it.
• 1:19:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's the stuck ones that you like.
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  SPEAKER_00: That you sometimes end up furthering that you break with pay.
• 1:19:37
  SPEAKER_00: You have to sort of sneak up on yourself also.
• 1:19:43
  SPEAKER_00: Sitting there thinking while I do a pay, yeah, maybe I'm going to do a pay.
• 1:19:46
  SPEAKER_00: No, the impulse to do the pay and the pay have to come together.
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  SPEAKER_00: You see,
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  SPEAKER_00: if you are not directly focused on the experience that you are breaking,
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  SPEAKER_00: if you're not looking there when you do that,
• 1:20:04
  SPEAKER_00: all it's going to do is startle your fleas, which is not the point.
• 1:20:12
  SPEAKER_00: Other questions?
• 1:20:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, a couple more about Rika.
• 1:20:18
  SPEAKER_01: One is the question, is Rika the same as Prana?
• 1:20:25
  SPEAKER_01: Life force, I guess is the Sanskrit.
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  SPEAKER_00: They are not the same thing, but they are certainly very related.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is the Prana that creates the Rika.
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  SPEAKER_00: That gives birth to the Rika.
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  SPEAKER_01: Next.
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  SPEAKER_01: Also about Rika,
• 1:20:58
  SPEAKER_01: one person mentioned that they can only see them when they remove their glasses.
• 1:21:03
  SPEAKER_00: This is true for many people.
• 1:21:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, if you can talk more about, I guess, physical limitations behind some of the practices.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, most people...
• 1:21:14
  SPEAKER_00: We'll find it easier to unfocus their eyes,
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  SPEAKER_00: which is necessary both to see Rika and to enter into Treksha,
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  SPEAKER_00: at least in the beginning, to take your glasses off.
• 1:21:35
  SPEAKER_00: Come here, glasses.
• 1:21:39
  SPEAKER_00: We use our glasses to give us the ability...
• 1:21:44
  SPEAKER_00: To point focus.
• 1:21:47
  SPEAKER_00: For instance, my text is just a little bit blurry but still readable like this.
• 1:21:56
  SPEAKER_00: But when I put these on, it's extremely clear and precise.
• 1:22:03
  SPEAKER_00: It is harder for me to relax my eyeballs with these on.
• 1:22:13
  SPEAKER_00: So I would not wear them to sit and practice,
• 1:22:17
  SPEAKER_00: which is why when I am using them to see the text,
• 1:22:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'm always taking them off to transmit.
• 1:22:24
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm like this all the time, which is a little distracting.
• 1:22:27
  SPEAKER_00: So since I can actually read this, I decided not to put them on today.
• 1:22:38
  SPEAKER_00: Other people may have difficulty sitting up straight, aligning their channels.
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  SPEAKER_00: Always,
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  SPEAKER_00: in the first few years of your practice of Treksha,
• 1:22:55
  SPEAKER_00: and even after that,
• 1:22:57
  SPEAKER_00: but especially in the first few years,
• 1:23:01
  SPEAKER_00: align your channels,
• 1:23:02
  SPEAKER_00: get your central channel, which runs from here, Down to through your uterus.
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  SPEAKER_00: It runs in front of the spine.
• 1:23:16
  SPEAKER_00: It's further to the back, like where your cervix is.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's gotta be straight.
• 1:23:30
  SPEAKER_00: If you have scoliosis,
• 1:23:34
  SPEAKER_00: Do your PT before you sit down to meditate so that you've done
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  SPEAKER_00: the stretching exercises
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  SPEAKER_00: that straighten the cricks and the crooks in your backs out
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  SPEAKER_00: as much as possible.
• 1:23:50
  SPEAKER_00: If it's severe and that doesn't straighten it out temporarily, then use props.
• 1:23:58
  SPEAKER_00: We had a very powerful meditator, a young monk, Who had had polio as a child.
• 1:24:06
  SPEAKER_00: So he had one leg shorter.
• 1:24:08
  SPEAKER_00: And he was studying the psalm practices in the Nyingma line,
• 1:24:14
  SPEAKER_00: the equivalent of six yogas of Naropa with our amazing psalm teacher out in Sulpema.
• 1:24:23
  SPEAKER_00: So they called me over to help design a seat for him that would hold his very unique body.
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  SPEAKER_00: As straight as possible.
• 1:24:34
  SPEAKER_00: Because yes,
• 1:24:34
  SPEAKER_00: as a result of polio and the limp,
• 1:24:37
  SPEAKER_00: he certainly had a lot of scoliosis in one hip one way.
• 1:24:41
  SPEAKER_00: So we had to put pads under the less muscular butt side.
• 1:24:48
  SPEAKER_00: And we had to do a side thing in here that held one of his sides in.
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  SPEAKER_00: And another one out here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Getting him as straight as we could.
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  SPEAKER_00: So please, if you have any physical problems, work on your seat.
• 1:25:06
  SPEAKER_00: Build yourself stuff.
• 1:25:11
  SPEAKER_00: Mipongompo was 84 years old when he got these pointing out instructions.
• 1:25:17
  SPEAKER_00: He couldn't sit up straight.
• 1:25:19
  SPEAKER_00: In order to actualize them,
• 1:25:22
  SPEAKER_00: in order even for them to go in,
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  SPEAKER_00: his teacher built him a chin prop That he could rest on like this.
• 1:25:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's a thing that goes like this and with one leg that goes down between the legs
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  SPEAKER_00: when you're cross-legged.
• 1:25:38
  SPEAKER_00: That held him up because as old as he was, he couldn't hold himself up from more than this.
• 1:25:47
  SPEAKER_00: They straightened him, gave the transmission of the four wongs.
• 1:25:53
  SPEAKER_00: He got it.
• 1:25:55
  SPEAKER_00: Not only did he go rainbow body, but 13 of his own students did as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's important.
• 1:26:08
  SPEAKER_00: Build yourself a chin prop if you need it.
• 1:26:15
  SPEAKER_01: Next question.
• 1:26:18
  SPEAKER_01: Why is it that if I abide in one taste and it feels so clean and so pure,
• 1:26:24
  SPEAKER_01: why is it that I look to run away from that habit?
• 1:26:31
  SPEAKER_00: It is still unfamiliar for you.
• 1:26:36
  SPEAKER_00: The more you repeat it,
• 1:26:40
  SPEAKER_00: allowing yourself to run away when you need to,
• 1:26:44
  SPEAKER_00: don't try to Put yourself in that state like putting on a girdle.
• 1:26:51
  SPEAKER_00: It'll develop an aversion, which is counterproductive.
• 1:26:56
  SPEAKER_00: When you need to run away and read a stupid book, go ahead.
• 1:27:00
  SPEAKER_00: Just come back again and again.
• 1:27:04
  SPEAKER_00: Frequency is more important than length of time.
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  SPEAKER_00: Eventually.
• 1:27:13
  SPEAKER_00: The hindrance karmic formation in your energy channels,
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  SPEAKER_00: bit of gunk caught in the chakra that is precluding you
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  SPEAKER_00: from being completely comfortable with this will work its way out.
• 1:27:31
  SPEAKER_00: Should you wish to speed up that process, I recommend the inner body rushen.
• 1:27:41
  SPEAKER_00: Which would speed up getting that bit of gunk out.
• 1:27:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's just a bit of gunk in your chakra.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not even sure which one here.
• 1:27:50
  SPEAKER_00: Would depend on the kind of discomfort and what you tend to run to.
• 1:27:59
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I get that too.
• 1:28:02
  SPEAKER_00: Have had it.
• 1:28:03
  SPEAKER_00: I'm intimately familiar with that phenomena.
• 1:28:08
  SPEAKER_00: Don't worry about it.
• 1:28:10
  SPEAKER_00: But be gentle with yourself.
• 1:28:13
  SPEAKER_00: Repetition rather than duration.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't force yourself to try to remain in it when the discomfort becomes
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  SPEAKER_00: notably distracting.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let go.
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  SPEAKER_00: Go do the other thing.
• 1:28:28
  SPEAKER_00: Whatever it is that you go to,
• 1:28:30
  SPEAKER_00: video game or stupid sci-fi book, that's mine, stupid sci-fi book.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just come back.
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  SPEAKER_00: Soon, briefly,
• 1:28:47
  SPEAKER_00: eventually without your having to thwap at it,
• 1:28:52
  SPEAKER_00: this will resolve itself and you will become more and more comfortable.
• 1:29:00
  SPEAKER_00: I speak from experience here because boy did I have that one.
• 1:29:08
  SPEAKER_00: If there is any single reason that I am a good teacher, it's because I'm an absolute idiot.
• 1:29:17
  SPEAKER_00: I have had almost every meditative accident you could have.
• 1:29:22
  SPEAKER_00: I've done almost every stupid thing to avoid getting enlightened that sentient beings do.
• 1:29:31
  SPEAKER_00: I know where the holes are because I fell in them and I'm old now.
• 1:29:41
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes I wonder those teachers who've had such an easy path,
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  SPEAKER_00: always loving the Dharma,
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  SPEAKER_00: never fighting the Dharma,
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  SPEAKER_00: never having a hard time,
• 1:29:50
  SPEAKER_00: never getting into weird tangles,
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  SPEAKER_00: how they can fish their students out of those very same tangles
• 1:30:03
  SPEAKER_00: if they've never experienced them.
• 1:30:09
  SPEAKER_00: Tulkus.
• 1:30:10
  SPEAKER_00: Raised in monasteries have a different set of problems, not the same set.
• 1:30:20
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, I was getting digressing.
• 1:30:21
  SPEAKER_00: Give me another question.
• 1:30:24
  SPEAKER_01: I've been seeing Tiglis and Rika since I was a child, not knowing what they were.
• 1:30:30
  SPEAKER_01: These teachings pointed my attention to them once more,
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  SPEAKER_01: but now I feel like I'm theorizing things that were once natural to me.
• 1:30:39
  SPEAKER_01: How to stop doing this and be childlike again?
• 1:30:45
  SPEAKER_00: Theorize all you want.
• 1:30:47
  SPEAKER_00: You don't have to listen.
• 1:30:54
  SPEAKER_00: Theorizing is just thoughts.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're not made of anything.
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  SPEAKER_00: They can't hurt you.
• 1:31:03
  SPEAKER_00: You don't have to pay any particular attention to them.
• 1:31:06
  SPEAKER_00: Leave them be.
• 1:31:07
  SPEAKER_00: They weren't going to stay around anyway.
• 1:31:09
  SPEAKER_00: It'll pass.
• 1:31:18
  SPEAKER_00: I was a particularly troubled and troublesome child.
• 1:31:26
  SPEAKER_00: The stories I made up were not innocent.
• 1:31:35
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't see childlikeness As somewhere I would want to go back to.
• 1:31:43
  SPEAKER_00: Perhaps you had an innocent childhood.
• 1:31:49
  SPEAKER_00: Not all childhoods are like that.
• 1:32:01
  SPEAKER_00: Your way is not to get rid of the thoughts,
• 1:32:04
  SPEAKER_00: it's to see through their thoughts, through those thoughts.
• 1:32:09
  SPEAKER_00: They are transparent, as was shown to you in the third Wong.
• 1:32:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we've already had four Wongs today.
• 1:32:20
  SPEAKER_00: They're different from Tantric Wongs.
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  SPEAKER_00: The first one talks to your intellect.
• 1:32:30
  SPEAKER_00: It explains how things work intellectually.
• 1:32:37
  SPEAKER_00: The second one talks to your feelings.
• 1:32:44
  SPEAKER_00: Using the poetry of word draws your attention
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  SPEAKER_00: emotionally to nature of mind.
• 1:32:58
  SPEAKER_00: The third one is perceptual.
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  SPEAKER_00: Symbolically,
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  SPEAKER_00: I show you an object that is transparent and symbolizes and informs you
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  SPEAKER_00: if you're able to catch it that all phenomena is transparent.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thoughts, feelings.
• 1:33:26
  SPEAKER_00: That whole set of thoughts and feelings that ride the sensory organs.
• 1:33:37
  SPEAKER_00: What is going on?
• 1:33:38
  SPEAKER_00: This accessory may not be supported, is continuously blinking on my screen.
• 1:33:46
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, well, let's... Let's find out if I'm still online.
• 1:33:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're still playing back.
• 1:33:53
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:33:54
  SPEAKER_01: So just ignore it as it goes by because right now playback is still continuing.
• 1:34:01
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to try to poke it because it's annoying me.
• 1:34:04
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:34:07
  SPEAKER_01: There we go.
• 1:34:10
  SPEAKER_00: That didn't help.
• 1:34:11
  SPEAKER_00: It came back.
• 1:34:12
  SPEAKER_00: I will try.
• 1:34:13
  SPEAKER_00: I will ignore it.
• 1:34:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's transparent.
• 1:34:19
  SPEAKER_00: Another question, please.
• 1:34:21
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, yes, back to the questions.
• 1:34:23
  SPEAKER_01: There was a good one I had just seen here.
• 1:34:28
  SPEAKER_01: How do you know that the nyam of clarity is a nyam?
• 1:34:34
  SPEAKER_00: It comes and goes.
• 1:34:39
  SPEAKER_00: It's moving.
• 1:34:47
  SPEAKER_00: You get that one a lot when you're in retreat for a couple of months and
• 1:34:50
  SPEAKER_00: then you completely understand everything.
• 1:34:52
  SPEAKER_00: You're wise,
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  SPEAKER_00: you're clear,
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  SPEAKER_00: you can help sentient beings,
• 1:34:56
  SPEAKER_00: you come out of retreat, and then you have a fight with your wife.
• 1:35:03
  SPEAKER_00: There went that.
• 1:35:08
  SPEAKER_00: Or with the grocery store or something.
• 1:35:11
  SPEAKER_00: It wears off.
• 1:35:13
  SPEAKER_00: If it's moving, it's a nyam, it's an experience.
• 1:35:18
  SPEAKER_01: Next question.
• 1:35:22
  SPEAKER_01: Is mind looking at mind yet another phenomena?
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  SPEAKER_01: Is the experience of mind looking at mind just an instantaneous after effect of the real thing?
• 1:35:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yes on the latter question.
• 1:35:37
  SPEAKER_00: No on the first question.
• 1:35:44
  SPEAKER_00: Mind seeing mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mind looking at mind as an idea.
• 1:35:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's a bunch of words.
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  SPEAKER_00: Never was more than that.
• 1:35:57
  SPEAKER_00: But in the seeing of mind by mind as mind.
• 1:36:09
  SPEAKER_00: The experience of that comes and goes.
• 1:36:14
  SPEAKER_00: That itself is always present.
• 1:36:18
  SPEAKER_00: And slowly the moving of which your personality is made changes by
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  SPEAKER_00: the repeated experience of the seeing of that
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  SPEAKER_00: until they are the same.
• 1:36:34
  SPEAKER_00: And it's no difference between moving and stillness.
• 1:36:44
  SPEAKER_00: How did you become who you are?
• 1:36:46
  SPEAKER_00: You're different from when you were 14.
• 1:36:49
  SPEAKER_00: You had experiences, right?
• 1:36:52
  SPEAKER_00: Experiences change you.
• 1:36:55
  SPEAKER_00: You grow from them.
• 1:36:59
  SPEAKER_00: So meditative experiences aren't bad things.
• 1:37:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's only when you cling to them and try to perpetuate them instead of going past them.
• 1:37:19
  SPEAKER_00: To what is inherently stable that they can become a problem for you.
• 1:37:30
  SPEAKER_01: Next question.
• 1:37:32
  SPEAKER_01: What is Rainbow Body?
• 1:37:34
  SPEAKER_01: Is Rainbow Body automatic when Treksha is getting stable?
• 1:37:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 1:37:48
  SPEAKER_00: Rainbow body is your energy channel body.
• 1:37:52
  SPEAKER_00: It exists right now.
• 1:37:54
  SPEAKER_00: But because your point of attention is material on matter, you don't directly perceive that.
• 1:38:07
  SPEAKER_00: When your point of attention,
• 1:38:09
  SPEAKER_00: which is currently matter and movement focused,
• 1:38:13
  SPEAKER_00: completely opens up and relaxes,
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  SPEAKER_00: Into its natural state, your energy body becomes apparent.
• 1:38:29
  SPEAKER_00: This is your rainbow body.
• 1:38:30
  SPEAKER_00: Look, if rainbow body were something you were going to get or accomplish,
• 1:38:35
  SPEAKER_00: it wouldn't be permanent.
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  SPEAKER_00: It would go away again.
• 1:38:39
  SPEAKER_00: Impermanence.
• 1:38:45
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously it's already there if it can be permanent.
• 1:38:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's just your channel body, your filamental body.
• 1:39:07
  SPEAKER_00: When we paint Tonkas, Ah, you can't see that, Tonka.
• 1:39:15
  SPEAKER_00: What have I got to hand here that I can pick up?
• 1:39:18
  SPEAKER_01: Here's a picture.
• 1:39:19
  SPEAKER_01: Some pictures.
• 1:39:21
  SPEAKER_01: That's a lot of pictures.
• 1:39:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, that's why they get stuck on the shelf.
• 1:39:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 1:39:26
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, here's a nice Tara.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can see her and her rainbow body.
• 1:39:34
  SPEAKER_00: You can see her form body, shape, and her rainbow body, those lines coming off it.
• 1:39:47
  SPEAKER_00: When you shift your vision to auracite,
• 1:39:54
  SPEAKER_00: if you get good at that, you can see other people's rainbow bodies.
• 1:40:01
  SPEAKER_00: Most people keep their filamental body wrapped around themself.
• 1:40:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's a habit.
• 1:40:15
  SPEAKER_00: When that relaxes and the tightness that holds inwardly the body of filaments,
• 1:40:25
  SPEAKER_00: of rainbow lights, of energy channels, it doesn't end at your skin.
• 1:40:30
  SPEAKER_00: It ends about, well, you keep it wrapped around like this.
• 1:40:34
  SPEAKER_00: Because all of your attention is focused on yourself,
• 1:40:38
  SPEAKER_00: where you are,
• 1:40:40
  SPEAKER_00: what you're doing,
• 1:40:40
  SPEAKER_00: your house, your stuff, the next thing you're going to do, yada, yada, yada.
• 1:40:47
  SPEAKER_00: When that fully relaxes and expands to infinity,
• 1:40:56
  SPEAKER_00: it returns to its natural state.
• 1:41:12
  SPEAKER_00: Then its expansive rainbow nature pervading all time and space is notable.
• 1:41:24
  SPEAKER_00: And I have no idea if that transmitted on the video.
• 1:41:29
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe?
• 1:41:33
  SPEAKER_00: We're getting close to the end here.
• 1:41:35
  SPEAKER_00: Let me have one more or two more questions.
• 1:41:39
  SPEAKER_01: Is it possible to do the inner body russian practice after seeing the video?
• 1:41:51
  SPEAKER_00: I don't advise it.
• 1:41:55
  SPEAKER_00: I advise you to get that one taught directly.
• 1:41:59
  SPEAKER_00: There's too many accidents that you can have.
• 1:42:03
  SPEAKER_00: As you unravel those in the chakras, they squeak.
• 1:42:07
  SPEAKER_00: One of the criteria,
• 1:42:12
  SPEAKER_00: and I don't know if that's up there as an open teaching or not,
• 1:42:15
  SPEAKER_00: I think I usually teach that in retreats, those Zoom retreats that I put people in.
• 1:42:23
  SPEAKER_00: One of the criteria is you have to have done working with emotions,
• 1:42:26
  SPEAKER_00: and you have to have practiced the Chenrezig sadhana,
• 1:42:30
  SPEAKER_00: because those are two things you will need in order to do that practice safely.
• 1:42:37
  SPEAKER_00: Working with emotions is accident-prone enough that I teach it as a retreat.
• 1:42:43
  SPEAKER_00: But the Chenrezig sadhana you're welcome to find.
• 1:42:46
  SPEAKER_00: In fact, we have a group practice on weekend mornings early.
• 1:42:52
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's on Sundays.
• 1:42:54
  SPEAKER_01: Do you remember if it's Chenrezig
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  SPEAKER_00: on Sunday or Dzogchen on Sunday?
• 1:42:58
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's...
• 1:43:01
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's Chenrezig.
• 1:43:02
  SPEAKER_01: I'll just double-check the schedule itself.
• 1:43:05
  SPEAKER_01: What we have is Treksha is Saturday and Chenrezig is Sunday.
• 1:43:11
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so that's tomorrow morning.
• 1:43:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's scheduled online.
• 1:43:15
  SPEAKER_00: There's a group that does the Chenrezig practice together.
• 1:43:18
  SPEAKER_00: So if you are considering doing the inner body Ruchen,
• 1:43:24
  SPEAKER_00: do the Chenrezig practice until you get it working.
• 1:43:27
  SPEAKER_00: You don't have to do it with a group if you don't like group practices.
• 1:43:31
  SPEAKER_00: Just get the tape and do it from there.
• 1:43:35
  SPEAKER_00: Tape.
• 1:43:36
  SPEAKER_00: The video.
• 1:43:40
  SPEAKER_00: But I think you should probably sign up for the Working with Emotions retreat and do
• 1:43:45
  SPEAKER_00: that in a retreat setting.
• 1:43:49
  SPEAKER_00: Another question.
• 1:43:51
  SPEAKER_01: Will trying to see everything like a dream enhance Trekship?
• 1:43:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, as well as your dream yoga.
• 1:44:01
  SPEAKER_00: That's good for you.
• 1:44:07
  SPEAKER_00: However,
• 1:44:08
  SPEAKER_00: if you begin doing that practice of seeing everything like a dream,
• 1:44:14
  SPEAKER_00: you must respect the integrity of the dream.
• 1:44:20
  SPEAKER_00: That means
• 1:44:23
  SPEAKER_00: do not step in front of moving trucks or off of cliffs because you can fly in dreams.
• 1:44:37
  SPEAKER_00: Okay?
• 1:44:38
  SPEAKER_00: That's important.
• 1:44:41
  SPEAKER_00: That is exactly what I mean by respecting the integrity of the dream.
• 1:44:47
  SPEAKER_00: If you get yourself killed in a dream, you will wake up.
• 1:44:54
  SPEAKER_00: Don't break the dream.
• 1:44:57
  SPEAKER_00: Don't break the life.
• 1:44:58
  SPEAKER_00: As you see everything as a dream, that is not an excuse.
• 1:45:04
  SPEAKER_00: To do stupid things and act without common sense and get yourself squished by traffic.
• 1:45:12
  SPEAKER_00: In Nepal, there was a guy who was doing a lot of practice and he was doing that practice.
• 1:45:19
  SPEAKER_00: And there was a truck coming down the street and he didn't get out of the street out
• 1:45:23
  SPEAKER_00: of the way of the truck because he thought it was a dream.
• 1:45:28
  SPEAKER_00: Oops.
• 1:45:39
  SPEAKER_00: Don't do that.
• 1:45:42
  SPEAKER_00: Next question.
• 1:45:44
  SPEAKER_01: Are psychic structures like the ego able to be rendered transparent by this practice?
• 1:45:52
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 1:45:53
  SPEAKER_00: They're ideas, aren't they?
• 1:45:56
  SPEAKER_00: Ego is a word.
• 1:46:00
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not even quite sure what it refers to, but whatever it refers to is a scientific theory.
• 1:46:08
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe by Freud.
• 1:46:10
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe he's the one who made it up.
• 1:46:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's a thought pattern.
• 1:46:17
  SPEAKER_00: Transparent like all the others.
• 1:46:21
  SPEAKER_01: Next.
• 1:46:22
  SPEAKER_01: And this will be last, I think.
• 1:46:24
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:46:26
  SPEAKER_01: Coffee in, coffee out.
• 1:46:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, exactly.
• 1:46:29
  SPEAKER_01: Do all beings and Buddhas have their own mandala?
• 1:46:34
  SPEAKER_01: And are these mandalas separate or interpenetrating?
• 1:46:39
  SPEAKER_01: If they interpenetrate, how does that happen?
• 1:46:47
  SPEAKER_00: All beings have a mandala of their perceptions.
• 1:46:52
  SPEAKER_00: I am sitting here at the table with my Khandro, my partner Nyando.
• 1:46:59
  SPEAKER_00: And we are both looking across the room.
• 1:47:03
  SPEAKER_00: Look across the room, Nyando.
• 1:47:04
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 1:47:05
  SPEAKER_00: And seeing the Christmas decorations that I put up yesterday because I felt like it.
• 1:47:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's playful.
• 1:47:13
  SPEAKER_00: So that perception is part of both of our mandalas.
• 1:47:18
  SPEAKER_00: They are interpenetrating.
• 1:47:26
  SPEAKER_00: The archetypes...
• 1:47:30
  SPEAKER_00: Such as Tara and Vajrasattva and Demchog and Vajrayogini all have their own mandalas.
• 1:47:40
  SPEAKER_00: But they are in some way the same mandala because the archetypes are all archetypes
• 1:47:48
  SPEAKER_00: of the same thing.
• 1:47:52
  SPEAKER_00: The three jewels.
• 1:48:01
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't break down quite as concretely as your question leads me to believe you see it.
• 1:48:09
  SPEAKER_00: The wording of your question.
• 1:48:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, each has its own mandala.
• 1:48:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, all those mandalas are completely interpenetrating.
• 1:48:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, in some way, all those mandalas are aspects of the same mandala
• 1:48:32
  SPEAKER_00: Which is the mandala of primordial Buddhahood, Kuntuzangpo Kuntuzangmo.
• 1:48:42
  SPEAKER_00: And that's, I think, the best I'm going to do with that question.
• 1:48:46
  SPEAKER_00: Anything urgent in there?
• 1:48:49
  SPEAKER_01: No, not at this point.
• 1:48:52
  SPEAKER_00: Then I am going to end for now because you have practices to do.
• 1:48:57
  SPEAKER_00: We are at the bottom of the first page of Song 8.
• 1:49:01
  SPEAKER_00: And song eight is well worth taking its time with because it's the pointing out instructions.
• 1:49:09
  SPEAKER_00: Should any of you have questions that are still bothering you tomorrow,
• 1:49:16
  SPEAKER_00: it's open question and answer.