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Life Beyond The Mic with Vic DiBitetto, Kaelynn Partlow & Matt Walst · Shawna and LaLa: Life Beyond The Mic

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  Speaker 1: From the heart of the city, where the beat meets
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  Speaker 1: the rhythm of your day.
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  Speaker 2: It's Shawna m.
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  Speaker 1: What's up. You're listening to Shauna and Lalla. Check us
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  Speaker 1: out at Shauna and Lala dot com on all social
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  Speaker 1: media platforms at Shauna and Lalla. You could follow me
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  Speaker 1: on Instagram at the Real Shawna May.
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  Speaker 3: And check me out at Bella Underscore Laala one to five.
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  Speaker 1: What a exciting weekend we had. Saturday, we went to
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  Speaker 1: see Vic Dibatato and he was hilarious.
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  Speaker 3: And probably the one of the nicest celebs or person
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  Speaker 3: in the Spotlight that I've ever met. He was so
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  Speaker 3: down to earth. We said that with his interview on
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  Speaker 3: the on Zoom that you could feel it through that,
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  Speaker 3: but in person he was even better.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: He was hugging us, he was treating us like we
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  Speaker 3: were family. Had us come backstage, we took pictures with him.
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  Speaker 3: He had his laughing and then he's like, hey, can
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  Speaker 3: you film some behind the scenes footage for me? And
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  Speaker 3: I was so excited, you know, so I got to
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  Speaker 3: film him. He was I was cracking up following him
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  Speaker 3: as he took us on a tour of backstage, behind
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  Speaker 3: the scenes, his bathroom, what else. It was really funny.
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  Speaker 1: The dressing room was gorgeous.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was very nice. It was like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he had all the mirrors all lit up. So he
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  Speaker 3: was just great. And the show is absolutely we were
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  Speaker 3: dying like so many jokes that it's just relatable, just
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  Speaker 3: relatable stuff. And some of it was more relatable to
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  Speaker 3: like our parents' age, because he's you know, he's sixty five. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but we it was relatable to us with a lot
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  Speaker 3: of the stuff. I was dying.
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  Speaker 1: He's others. I've seen him before and every time I
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  Speaker 1: see him, he's just funnier.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he gets fun They get funnier, right, get funnier
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  Speaker 3: with the age, to get better with they age. He's
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  Speaker 3: like fine wine.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was cool that he wanted to keep going,
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  Speaker 1: and security or whoever was back there was like.
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  Speaker 3: No, you're out of time, You're done, You're done.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: He kept saying like I want to keep going. But
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  Speaker 3: this guy here, he's given me like the cut it out,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the cut it off sign, and he's about
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  Speaker 3: to take me down. He's gonna kill me. I better
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  Speaker 3: get off stage. So everyone was laughing at that because
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  Speaker 3: I guarantee. There was a guy like doing the come on, cut, cut,
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  Speaker 3: let's go, let's go.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he probably just wanted to go home.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think everyone wanted to go home there, like
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  Speaker 3: the staff. Not because he was bored, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: you're tired, so they were like, hey, this is running overtime,
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  Speaker 3: I gotta go home. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It was great. It was a great night out. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: not even that bad of a drive.
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  Speaker 3: No, And the bergen Pack is absolutely it's it's beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: It's a really nice space to go to a show
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  Speaker 3: or a concert.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. We did get lost getting there, though,
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  Speaker 1: Oh god, yes, I don't understand GPS.
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  Speaker 3: We had GPS, and it was making us go in
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  Speaker 3: a loopy loop around shop right around and around and around,
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  Speaker 3: and we're like, oh, it's taken us somewhere new. Nope,
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  Speaker 3: we're back in Shop Rights parking lot. I have no
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  Speaker 3: idea what the heck was going on.
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  Speaker 1: And you didn't see it. But thank god we didn't
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  Speaker 1: park in Shop Rights parking lot, I know, because we
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  Speaker 1: would have been toad.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, because it said do not park if you're
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  Speaker 3: going to the bergen Pack, do not park in Shop
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  Speaker 3: Right parking lot. My husband wanted to park there because
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  Speaker 3: he knew there's probably no parking near the vent or
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  Speaker 3: close to the venue, so he's like, let's just grab
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  Speaker 3: a spot here. But yeah, we didn't. It all worked out.
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  Speaker 3: It was funny. So we were starving. I worked an
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  Speaker 3: event that day for my canoli business, and I didn't
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  Speaker 3: so I didn't have lunch, I didn't have dinner. I
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  Speaker 3: think I had a small breakfast, like early early in
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  Speaker 3: the morning, and I went right from my event, me
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  Speaker 3: and my husband straight you know, we grabbed Shanna and
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  Speaker 3: then we went straight there and we were nauseous, that's
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  Speaker 3: how hungry we were. And my husband goes, we're not
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  Speaker 3: gonna be able to eat because this show is gonna
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  Speaker 3: run late, and we live over an hour away. We're
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  Speaker 3: not gonna be able to eat. By the time we
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  Speaker 3: get out of here, everything's gonna be closed. So when
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  Speaker 3: we finally we dropped show on off at the front
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  Speaker 3: and we went in part and as we were walking,
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  Speaker 3: we passed the Pizza Rhea and he's like, let's just
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  Speaker 3: grab a cold slice, and I was like, yeah, he's like,
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  Speaker 3: because we're gonna be so nauseous. So we run in
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  Speaker 3: and we get the slice and we're trying to scarf
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  Speaker 3: it down as we're walking to the venue and Janna
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  Speaker 3: calls me and she's like, where are you? You know,
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  Speaker 3: they want to take us back. So Mike still had
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  Speaker 3: half of his his pizza. I was shoving it in
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  Speaker 3: my throat, almost choking myself. And we get to the
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  Speaker 3: door and I'm like, I really was enjoying the crust,
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  Speaker 3: and I said, I don't want to throw it out,
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  Speaker 3: so this like half eaten pizza crust. I shoved it
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  Speaker 3: in my purse like in a napkin, but I didn't
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  Speaker 3: close the napkin, so it was just in the side
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  Speaker 3: of my purse. And I run in like disheveled.
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  Speaker 4: We're here.
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  Speaker 3: We're here, and the security guard is there and he's like,
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  Speaker 3: open your purse please with the flashlight to look in there.
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  Speaker 3: Did you forget I thought of it? I first, yes,
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  Speaker 3: I forgot. The second he said that because I was
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  Speaker 3: looking for you. I was just very frazzled, you know
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  Speaker 3: how I get. I was very frazzled thinking did we
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  Speaker 3: miss something? Do we hold them up? And Mike was pissed.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we had a nice fresh can of coke.
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  Speaker 3: It was really good too. It was ice cold, and
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  Speaker 3: he took a swig of it and had to throw
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  Speaker 3: it out. So I'm there and I'm thinking of showing
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  Speaker 3: I'm thinking of Mike probably being pissed about the coke can.
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  Speaker 3: And the guy goes. He looks in the person and
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  Speaker 3: I knew, I'm like, crap the pizza crust. And he
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  Speaker 3: looks in the person. He's like, is that a half
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  Speaker 3: eaten pizza crust? I said, oh, yeah, I was hungry.
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  Speaker 3: And he looked at me. He's like, uh, are you
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  Speaker 3: going to finish it? I said, yep, I'm gonna finish
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  Speaker 3: it right now. I said, I ate it on the
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  Speaker 3: way here. I didn't want to waste it. I was hungry.
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  Speaker 3: And he started laughing. So I like shoved it in
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  Speaker 3: my mouth, but I.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't even notice. I think I was so frustrated at
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  Speaker 1: the other security guy. Yeah, because he kept saying there
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  Speaker 1: is no green room. Now, of course there is a
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  Speaker 1: green room.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe he was dumb and honestly thought it was a
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  Speaker 3: green room, you know, right, Yeah, there's no green.
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  Speaker 1: Room with white exactly. Maybe I mean that happened one
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  Speaker 1: time I went to Binghamton and I went to I
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  Speaker 1: was looking for will call you know where you get
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  Speaker 1: your tickets? Yeah, and the guy goes, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: who will call is? I said, it's a place to
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  Speaker 1: pick up ticket and he's like, I don't know who
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  Speaker 1: that is.
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  Speaker 3: Jesus, You would think if people work in these fields
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  Speaker 3: and venues, they would know the lingo. Yeah, green room
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  Speaker 3: will call. What's the other one? Backstage? We don't have
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  Speaker 3: a backstage, we have a front stage. I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I was just so frustrated. And Vic's the manager. He
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  Speaker 1: was so he was cracking up at the whole situation.
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  Speaker 3: Thank God, he was nice. He helped us. And we
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  Speaker 3: always run into this issue. It's just that no one talk.
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  Speaker 3: Not the managers, but the venues. They don't talk to
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  Speaker 3: each other. They don't know what's going on a lot
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  Speaker 3: of times, and.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't relate the message to each other.
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  Speaker 3: So it's oh, we've come to expect it. And I
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  Speaker 3: think that's why my husband was mad about throwing out
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  Speaker 3: his soda, because he's come to these types of things
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  Speaker 3: with us before and it never goes right. So he's like,
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  Speaker 3: before I throw this out, everything's good, right, We're going
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  Speaker 3: back there, And I'm like, yeah, yeah, she said, they're
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  Speaker 3: well ready to take us back. Well we were, and
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  Speaker 3: he threw it out and then he looked at me
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  Speaker 3: when you said, I don't know what's going on, he
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  Speaker 3: shot I didn't even want to make eye contact with him.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh crap. He shot me the look of
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  Speaker 3: death and he's like, I was really enjoying that cannon coke.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even get to finish it.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm sorry, Well, we were such to
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  Speaker 1: go back and then I don't know what happened, Like
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  Speaker 1: the guy disappeared. Yeah, yeah, And Vic's manager was like,
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  Speaker 1: well what is he saying. I'm like, he disappeared. He
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  Speaker 1: didn't come back here. He was like, go find somebody else.
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  Speaker 1: So we did.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it all works out.
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  Speaker 1: They were actually looking for me and I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It was a whole big thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but everyone was great. Those the women we dealt with,
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  Speaker 3: they were amazing. It was Lauren and Connie and they
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  Speaker 3: were just top notch. They were on top of everything,
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  Speaker 3: and I mean everything, and they did everything super friendly.
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  Speaker 3: They even though the one lady Connie like she was
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  Speaker 3: a jack of all trade. She did everything right. She
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  Speaker 3: did yes, she we had to use the bathroom. There
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  Speaker 3: was a long line and she was like our personal bodyguard. Everything.
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  Speaker 3: She's like, let's go, I'm getting it, you know. She
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  Speaker 3: got us in the head. It was she was just great.
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  Speaker 1: I showed us to our seats.
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  Speaker 3: Our seats.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: She was laughing with us, she was taking pictures for us.
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  Speaker 2: It was.
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  Speaker 3: They both were amazing. But Connie was just like and
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  Speaker 3: you said she was she was an EMT too, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she was like, I'm the only one certified that
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  Speaker 1: Kira was a She's like, so I do that too.
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  Speaker 3: She needs a raise if you're listening Bergen package, she
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  Speaker 3: needs a raise because you're gonna be lost without her.
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  Speaker 3: She was amazing. So those two ladies, Lauren and Connie,
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  Speaker 3: they're lucky to have them. And Vic, yeah, he I
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  Speaker 3: hope that we can go see him again because he
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  Speaker 3: was just so entertaining, is so sweet and we can't wait.
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  Speaker 1: To see him again. And he is definitely our uncle Vic.
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  Speaker 1: And on today's show, we have Kaylin Parlow, who was
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  Speaker 1: on Love on This Spectrum. She wrote a book called
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  Speaker 1: Life on the Bridge, and we loved talking with her
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  Speaker 1: and we're looking forward to seeing her when she's in town.
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  Speaker 1: And then we also have an interview. I interviewed Matt
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  Speaker 1: Walst from Three Days Grace, and I'm actually going to
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  Speaker 1: see his show this Saturday at Mohegan's Sun.
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  Speaker 3: Who I'm jealous.
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so jealous. You better have fun and eat some
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  Speaker 3: good food there.
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  Speaker 1: You can come.
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  Speaker 3: I know I have a baby shower on Long Island,
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  Speaker 3: so it wouldn't work out, but I would love to.
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  Speaker 3: I love Three Days Grace and I love Mohican Son,
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  Speaker 3: so that's just like the best of both worlds right there.
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  Speaker 1: I've never been to mohegan Son. I did see Matt
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  Speaker 1: perform when he was in his original band, first band,
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  Speaker 1: My Darkest Days, and we talk about it in the interview.
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  Speaker 1: The performance that this guy puts on is fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: That's always the best. When you get you feel like
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  Speaker 3: the show is worth it. They sounds like how they
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  Speaker 3: when they're on their seat, I can't talk. Oh my god.
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  Speaker 3: When they sound just as good as their recordings, you know,
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  Speaker 3: that's always the best.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I looked up their set lists because I'm
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  Speaker 1: a crazy not like that, and they have three sets.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a long concert and I'm very excited. However,
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  Speaker 1: when I come back Sunday, I have to do a
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  Speaker 1: prep for a colonoscopy again, so that is not gonna
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  Speaker 1: be fun. But I'm going to eat my little heart
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  Speaker 1: out on Saturday if I could find a good restaurant.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, then you better, you better
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  Speaker 3: take advantage of Saturday and just eat everything because Sunday
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  Speaker 3: is gonna suck.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, We're gonna hop into an interview with Caitlin
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  Speaker 1: Parlow on the show today. We have author and she
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  Speaker 1: was also on Love on the Spectrum, which is one
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  Speaker 1: of my favorite I knows and uh, we have Kaitlin
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  Speaker 1: Partlow on the show today.
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  Speaker 2: Hi.
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  Speaker 1: Hi, So tell us a little bit about what inspired
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  Speaker 1: you to write Life on the Bridge.
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  Speaker 4: Gotta think about that one for a second. I think
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  Speaker 4: it was It was a lot of things. It sounds
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  Speaker 4: kind of silly to say, but not everyone has social media,
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  Speaker 4: and not everyone uses it as much as I do. Additionally,
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  Speaker 4: even the people who do use social media maybe aren't
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  Speaker 4: able to save all the pieces of information that they
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  Speaker 4: want to. So the book just kind of puts it
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  Speaker 4: all in one big, tangible place that you can take
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  Speaker 4: with you and not lose. I get a lot of
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  Speaker 4: messages from people saying, oh, you did a video on
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  Speaker 4: conflict or resolution, or you did a video on the
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  Speaker 4: autistic sense of justice? Where can I find that? And
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  Speaker 4: it's like, if they don't have it bookmarked, it's hard
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  Speaker 4: to locate. Whereas with the book, everything's all kind of
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  Speaker 4: clean and nice and laid out, so if you lose something,
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  Speaker 4: you just go to the index, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So what kind of message do you want readers
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  Speaker 1: to take away from the book?
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  Speaker 4: With the autism spectrum being so wide, it's hard for
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  Speaker 4: me to narrow down and say this is the specific
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  Speaker 4: part I want you to take away. I want everyone
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  Speaker 4: to take away something, whether that's plain language or how
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  Speaker 4: to best communicate with autistic people, or how to understand
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  Speaker 4: meltdowns or sensory differences. It really doesn't matter to me
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  Speaker 4: what it is that they take away. I want them
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  Speaker 4: to take away what it is that's relevant in their worlds.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and autism is so wide of a spectrum. I
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  Speaker 1: have autistic cousins and they're all totally so different, right,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Like it's just it's crazy to me.
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  Speaker 3: You can't fit it all in one box. Everyone is just.
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  Speaker 1: They're all unique, and they all have their own stems and.
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  Speaker 3: Their strengths, and yeah, what is nonverbal?
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  Speaker 1: But he could take a part a computer and put
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  Speaker 1: it back together like it's it's insane. Right, you are
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  Speaker 1: also a therapist, And how has being autistic and being
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  Speaker 1: a therapist shaped the way you understand the communication and connection.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's it's one way, like it's one thing
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  Speaker 4: to read it and it's another thing to live it.
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  Speaker 4: And I've kind of sat on both sides of the table,
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  Speaker 4: and so it gives me a little bit more empathy
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  Speaker 4: than someone who has just read about it, or has
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  Speaker 4: been told about it in their training, or has learned
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  Speaker 4: about it in grad school. Which is not to say
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  Speaker 4: that therapists who aren't autistic can't be empathetic, because they
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  Speaker 4: absolutely can be, but it's a different type of empathy.
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  Speaker 4: When you have really personally lived on both sides of it.
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  Speaker 4: You come away with this feeling of deeper understanding that
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  Speaker 4: it's really hard to pick up in a book or
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  Speaker 4: elsewhere outside of just living it yourself.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and how long did it take you to write
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  Speaker 1: the book?
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  Speaker 4: Two years?
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  Speaker 2: Ish? Wow?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Lala and I are writing a book.
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  Speaker 3: As you probably know, it's a wild ride. It's yes,
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  Speaker 3: absolutely difficult. It's hard. You're going back and forth, you're
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  Speaker 3: erasing things, you're adding things, and you read it again
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: You cry a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's the crier.
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  Speaker 3: I always cry.
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  Speaker 4: If you didn't cry, you weren't doing it right, right,
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  Speaker 4: exactly exactly.
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  Speaker 1: What is one of the biggest misconceptions people have about
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  Speaker 1: autism and that you hope that your book really kind
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  Speaker 1: of corrects it.
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  Speaker 4: I think one of the biggest misconceptions is that everybody
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  Speaker 4: who has AUTO is just like the people you see
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  Speaker 4: on social media, and that's just simply not the case.
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  Speaker 4: There's an imbalance in representation. The people who can represent
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  Speaker 4: themselves are you know, the dominant group that you're going
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  Speaker 4: to see online. And I want people to understand that
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  Speaker 4: autism kind of like we were just saying, it's so
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  Speaker 4: much broader than just what you can see online. People
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  Speaker 4: like me, who are very language abled and having a
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  Speaker 4: lot of abilities in different areas, we are able to
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  Speaker 4: put ourselves on social media. But there's a whole other
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  Speaker 4: section of people who are not participating in social media
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  Speaker 4: for a variety of reasons, and it kind of skews
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  Speaker 4: the public perception that autism looks this one way, when
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  Speaker 4: in reality that's not the case, and so I really
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  Speaker 4: hope that my book kind of corrects that to talk
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  Speaker 4: more about the depth of the autism spectrum.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I truly feel that. I think that people don't
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  Speaker 3: realize how many people that they come in contact daily
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  Speaker 3: that are somewhere on the spectrum, and maybe it would
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: help them to get have a little grace, you know,
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: and say, Okay, not it doesn't autism doesn't look this
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: one way, And I think that would would definitely help
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: give people more grace and patience. And so I believe that.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: So after your appearance on Love on the Spectrum, how
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: did your life change personally and professionally?
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: Personally, I don't go out in public anymore alone. There's
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: just you never know who's going to recognize you, whether
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: from social media or from Netflix. And so if you're
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: having a bad hair day, or you're a little bit
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: grumpy and maybe not in the mood to take a
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: selfie while you're getting some milk, maybe don't leave the house,
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: which is sometimes frustrating, but I think it's all just
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: kind of part of it.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, the lack of privacy is a big one
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: because all of my medical history, all of anything you
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: could ever want to know about me is just a
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: Google search away, So there is no privacy. And I've
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: had people send fan mail to my house. I've had
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: people follow me around in stores, wait for me outside
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: of public bathroom so they can talk to me or
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: set me up with their son. So I'm very careful
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: about where I go and what time I go and
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: who's with me.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: That's good.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: That is really really scary.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: It is scary. That's it's like the cost of when
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: you get into the spotlight, that your whole life is
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: just uprooted and it's a new way you have to
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: learn to live. And that's hard. That's hard. I can't
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: even imagine, like a daily trip to a target could
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: be a nightmare.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: You know, yeah, you just you never know. That's that
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: And I think that's the part that gets to me
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: the most is it's not that people are unkind, because
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: they're not.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: People have been.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: My experiences have been very pleasant, they're very lovely individuals.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: But it's the not knowing. You don't get to know
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: when it's going to happen to you. Maybe you'll get recognized,
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: maybe you won't. Maybe they'll want a picture, maybe they won't.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: Maybe they'll come up to you crying, and maybe they won't.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: You just don't know, and that's the part that makes
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: me a little on edge.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: I would say, yeah, naiety, And how would you say
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: it changed your life professionally? Has it changed anything professionally
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: for you? Yeah?
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: It really put me on the map in terms of
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: autism advocacy, specifically online. I've always kind of been engaged
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: in just the online discourse relating to autism, but this
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: really kind of boosted my presence in a way that
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: I never expected but has been really really positive.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: And how did you get on the show? Like? Did
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: you have to apply or did they yeah, find you?
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: Well, everybody thinks it's just like this wonderful, magical story,
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: and it's really not. I was scrolling on Facebook and
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: I saw that they were taking applications and it's one
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: of those things when you're like, oh, you know, I'll
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: try it, see what happens. You don't expect anything of it.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: But I interview really well. So it was a couple
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: of zoom interviews and the next thing you know, Netflix
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: is on your door Steparty of Film, So it wasn't
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: like a grand like exciting adventure. It was just a
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: lot of zoom interviews and emails.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: You do interview well, like, yeah, you're amazing.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: You should have your own podcast.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Yo.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Someone's reading your book and is trying to better understand
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: or support an autistic love one or friend. Where should
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: they begin chapter one? One? Yeah?
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: I mean I would say read the whole book obviously,
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: And in terms of what I want them to take away,
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: Like I said, it's hard to say I want you
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: to take this piece or that piece. I want everyone
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: to take away something, And I believe personally that there
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: is something to be taken away from for everybody who
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: is loved or love someone on the spectrum. But yeah,
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know that there is any one right place
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: to start outside of that.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: And where can our listeners get your book? And are
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: you doing any local signings in your area or around
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: the country. Yeah?
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the Spartanburg County Library is doing a book signing.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Oh gosh, not the seventeenth, like three days later, I
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: don't know the Yeah, something like that, one of those days.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: It's on a Wednesday. So yeah, the Spartanburg County County
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: Library is doing a book signing. I will have books
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: at all my speaking events and then you can purchase
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: my book anywhere, but that books are sold.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Awesome. So, speaking of your speaking events, are you coming
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: to New York anytime soon?
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Yes, I'll be there at some point this month.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, awesome, Well let us know. We would love to
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: meet you and get a picture. We're very nice people,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: not creepy.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: No, that would be great though. I'm so proud of
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: you and I can't wait to read the book. I
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: can't wait and share it on our podcast. Thank you,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: You're welcome.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. And what is your website for
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: all of our listeners and followers.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: I don't have a website, but you can find me
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: wherever you find your favorite online videos. I'm on TikTok, Facebook, Instagram,
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: and YouTube.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Awesome. All right, well, thank you so much.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: Kaylin, Yeah, thank you.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: On the show today, we have Matt Walst from Three
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Days Grace. The band is currently on tour and they
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: are still celebrating their latest album, Alien Nation. And Matt,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: we actually met many years ago when you were in
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: the band for My Darkest Days and I interviewed you
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: at the garden and I lost my glasses on the
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: way to the Garden on the train and I cannot
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: see anything, and you guys were great with like leading
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: me into the questions and everything.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: So oh good good.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: It's always an experience.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, back then it is such a blur to me,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: like it's, uh, it was so crazy and uh yeah,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: times were different definitely for me back then. So it's, uh,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: it was pretty cool to be at the Garden. I'm
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: sure I was pretty damn nervous.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't remember. I know I would be No,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I still remember. It was one of my I've seen
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of concerts and I still talk about it,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: like with you were on tour with Nickelback.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, it was us Seelar Bush and Nickelback.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, and it was one of the top concerts I've
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: ever been to.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: So yeah, they go back with pulling off some crazy stuff.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Back then it was it was insane.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but uh so what was the inspiration behind alienation?
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Just like a common thread that's been out throughout like
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: a lot of the Three Days Grace albums. You know,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: we write about things we go through in our lives
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: or what's going on around us, and I feel like,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: you know, people can relate to that, and that's why
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: they keep coming back to, you know, the songs and
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: can can relate to the songs, you know. Yeah, and
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: that's that's the main goal of our songwriting, is to
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: to make people feel something.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Right so that they can't relate to it.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: So what's your favorite song off of Alienation?
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Uh? Probably don't want to go home tonight.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: It just it puts me back to when you know,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I was a teenager and just growing up in a
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: small town in Ontario and just you know, not having
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: any worries and just uh living living to the moment
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: and driving around and just having fun.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now with Adam back in the band, so now
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: you have two lead singers and how did that come about?
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: And has that changed the energy on the stage.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's made it more like more fun.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Like it definitely crowds go crazy. It's it's been a
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: lot of fun for me to to do some like
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: harmonies and play guitar and yeah, we get to take
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: a breath and you know, put put our best foot forward.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: And for the fans, I'm sure this is like the
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: the you know, best thing that could possibly happen. So
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: it's been a lot of fun.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like you could experiment different things musically
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: with having two singers.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: For sure, Like, you know, we can fill out parts more,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: you know, take different parts. And yeah, it's just been
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: been a lot more fun having having at him up
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: there helping out.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: So how do you decipher, like for the old songs
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: that you perform, I'm assuming you still perform the old
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: original songs, but how do you decipher who's gonna sing
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: what part?
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Well, it kind of just came together naturally, you know,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: like I take a second verse on a few older songs,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: and then Adam will take like a second verse on
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: some newer songs that I sang with the band, and
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: you know, we just mixed it up a lot and
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: it came together pretty easily.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Oh nice. Yeah, so you were already successful with My
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Darkest Days? What happened and what when the opportunity came
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: about to join Three Days Grace? What was going through
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: your mine? Like, I don't know, I've always wanted to
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: ask you this, you know, because I know how great
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: you were with the band, I know how close you
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: were with Style and Reid and all the guys, But
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: like what made you decide? Like, Hey, I'm gonna leave
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: the band and go to Three Days Grace.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Originally it was just for a tour with Three Days Grace,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: and it became more permanent as time went on. We planned,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: we planned with My Darkest Days on doing a third album,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: but in my schedule just became too overwhelmed with Three
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Days Grace and it just, you know, it was just
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: too much to juggle at the time, you know, it
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: was it was a lot going on all around, and
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: you know, it was a pretty stressful time for me
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: in my life to be stepping into a new band.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: I knew the songs, of course, growing up with my
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: brother and watching the band and being on tour with
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Three Days Grace in My Darkest Days, so it was
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: pretty natural that way. I knew the songs and stuff.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: But yeah, definitely a lot of noise going on and
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: a pretty stressful time.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you still stay in touch with the guys?
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I talked to Dougie and Reed and Brendan quite often.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I don't talk to Sal too often, but I talked
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: to the other guys quite often.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Yeaheah, Sal, I believe is in Florida now. Actually, yeah,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: from what I understand, so did you feel it was
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: like intimidating to step into that role of being the
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: lead singer of such an internationally known band already.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like it was a little scary at first, you know,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: but after a while it just became a natural.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well I would think that it would, but you know,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I mean I would be nervous, like what are the
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: fans gonna think?
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Like will they like me?
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Or yeah? Yeah? But after a while, you got to
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: stop caring what other people think, or you just drive
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: yourself crazy, you know, like if you're online looking at
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: comments and that kind of stuff, and you know, I
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: was for a bit, but it wasn't good for my
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: mental health, so I just kind of stopped and stopped
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: giving a shit what people thought.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: That is very good advice. I should take it, because
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I am always like critiquing myself and looking online and
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I've been in radio for god twenty
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: years now, fifteen, and I'm always like looking at what
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: people are writing and posting and commenting, and I'm like, oh,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: some days I just want to quit because I'm like,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: all right, well they don't like it, you know, or
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: they don't like this or that. Or whatever the case is.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Well, you at one point you just got to realize
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: you can't please everybody exactly, right, especially nowadays.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, that is true, and everyone is opinionated these days.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: It's exactly you know, I hold myself back sometimes it's like,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: you know, you want to comment on something or other
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: and you're just like, you know what, just it's not
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: even worth it.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, yeah, that happened to me the other day.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I had this whole post like right now,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: and then I'm like delete.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah I've done that many times.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So what can fans experience at your show
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: on March fourteenth. You're going to be in You're gonna
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: be near me actually in Connecticut at Mohigan's Sun.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Just a high energy energy show, lots of songs you
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: can sing along too, and yeah we bring it awesome.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm looking forward to seeing you. Hopefully I can
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: get tickets to come out and watch you perform. I'm
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: going to medical I have your concert and then a
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: medical procedure Monday morning, so it'll be a nice little getaway.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah good, and we'll have to meet up.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah definitely, Yeah, let us know I will.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. So much for taking the time out.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Thank you, and that's our show.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening. Follow us on Shauna
• 29:23
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• 29:27
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• 29:31
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• 29:33
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• 29:37
  Speaker 1: We will see you next week.