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- 0:00Foreign.
- 0:08Joining
- 0:08us
- 0:08for
- 0:08today's
- 0:09five
- 0:09insightful
- 0:10minute
- 0:10segment
- 0:10is
- 0:10Rita
- 0:11Karbage.
- 0:11Rita
- 0:12is
- 0:12the
- 0:12Chief
- 0:13Strategy
- 0:13Officer
- 0:14at
- 0:14the
- 0:14Rolla
- 0:15Group,
- 0:15as
- 0:15I
- 0:15know
- 0:15many
- 0:16omnitalk
- 0:17fans
- 0:17and
- 0:17listeners
- 0:17are
- 0:18already
- 0:18aware.
- 0:18And
- 0:19she
- 0:19is
- 0:19here
- 0:19to
- 0:19talk
- 0:19with
- 0:20us
- 0:20about
- 0:20the
- 0:20current
- 0:20state
- 0:21and
- 0:21the
- 0:21evolving
- 0:22economics
- 0:22of
- 0:22online
- 0:23grocery
- 0:23and
- 0:24what
- 0:24it
- 0:24really
- 0:24takes
- 0:24to
- 0:25make
- 0:25the
- 0:25model
- 0:25work
- 0:26the
- 0:26long
- 0:26term.
- 0:26Rita,
- 0:27let's
- 0:27get
- 0:27you
- 0:28started
- 0:28off
- 0:28with
- 0:28this
- 0:29question.
- 0:29Online
- 0:29grocery,
- 0:30I
- 0:30mean
- 0:31I've
- 0:31heard
- 0:31it
- 0:31a
- 0:31lot.
- 0:31It's
- 0:32been
- 0:32called
- 0:32structurally
- 0:32unprofitable
- 0:33for
- 0:33years
- 0:34now.
- 0:35But
- 0:35what
- 0:35has
- 0:35actually
- 0:35changed
- 0:36of
- 0:36late
- 0:36and
- 0:37what
- 0:37still
- 0:37does
- 0:38need
- 0:38to
- 0:38change
- 0:38for
- 0:39the
- 0:39math
- 0:39to
- 0:39actually
- 0:40work?
- 0:40Yeah,
- 0:40that
- 0:40label
- 0:41was
- 0:41real
- 0:41painful,
- 0:42but
- 0:42real.
- 0:43We're
- 0:43talking
- 0:44about
- 0:44small
- 0:44baskets,
- 0:45manual
- 0:45store
- 0:45picking,
- 0:46inefficient
- 0:46last
- 0:47mile.
- 0:47And
- 0:47that
- 0:47meant
- 0:48grocers
- 0:48were
- 0:48losing
- 0:48somewhere
- 0:49between
- 0:49five
- 0:49and
- 0:49ten
- 0:50dollars
- 0:50on
- 0:50every
- 0:50order.
- 0:51Nobody
- 0:51wants
- 0:51a
- 0:51business
- 0:51like
- 0:52that.
- 0:53The
- 0:53operators
- 0:53really
- 0:53making
- 0:54it
- 0:54work
- 0:54today
- 0:55are
- 0:55the
- 0:55ones
- 0:55who
- 0:55have
- 0:55shifted
- 0:56to
- 0:56a
- 0:56full
- 0:57basket,
- 0:58really
- 0:58delivering
- 0:58a
- 0:59weekly
- 0:59shop
- 0:59at
- 0:59over
- 1:00$100
- 1:00as
- 1:01an
- 1:01average
- 1:01basket.
- 1:02And
- 1:02they've
- 1:02rebuilt
- 1:02their
- 1:02whole
- 1:03infrastructure
- 1:04around
- 1:04online.
- 1:05So
- 1:05they've
- 1:05rebuilt
- 1:05compact,
- 1:06high
- 1:06throughput
- 1:07fulfillment
- 1:08centers
- 1:08with
- 1:08the
- 1:08right
- 1:08level
- 1:09of
- 1:09automation.
- 1:10We're
- 1:10talking
- 1:10about
- 1:10500
- 1:11to
- 1:11100,000
- 1:12square
- 1:13feet
- 1:14that
- 1:14are
- 1:15close
- 1:15to
- 1:15where
- 1:15the
- 1:15customers
- 1:16are
- 1:16with
- 1:16concentrated
- 1:17demand
- 1:17and
- 1:18not
- 1:18these
- 1:18oversized
- 1:19monuments
- 1:19that
- 1:19we
- 1:19saw
- 1:20in
- 1:20the
- 1:20early
- 1:20days.
- 1:21These
- 1:21are
- 1:21really
- 1:21the
- 1:22winners
- 1:22who
- 1:23have
- 1:23changed
- 1:23this
- 1:23discipline
- 1:24and
- 1:24stopped
- 1:25promising
- 1:25everything
- 1:26everywhere
- 1:26for
- 1:26free
- 1:27to
- 1:27their
- 1:27customers
- 1:28and
- 1:28started
- 1:28to
- 1:28rebuild
- 1:29their
- 1:30networks
- 1:30around
- 1:31something
- 1:31that
- 1:32really
- 1:32works
- 1:32both
- 1:32for
- 1:33the
- 1:33customer
- 1:33promise
- 1:34and
- 1:34the
- 1:34unit
- 1:35economics.
- 1:35So
- 1:35Rita,
- 1:36I'm
- 1:36curious
- 1:36because
- 1:37we've
- 1:37been
- 1:37seeing
- 1:37same
- 1:37day
- 1:38grocery
- 1:38delivery,
- 1:38particularly
- 1:39over
- 1:39here
- 1:39in
- 1:39the
- 1:39States.
- 1:39I
- 1:39think
- 1:39it's
- 1:40even
- 1:40more
- 1:40so
- 1:40in
- 1:40Europe.
- 1:41It's
- 1:41quickly
- 1:42becoming
- 1:42the
- 1:43default
- 1:43grocery
- 1:43expectation.
- 1:44And
- 1:44I
- 1:44can
- 1:44think
- 1:45back
- 1:45to
- 1:45just
- 1:46in
- 1:46the
- 1:46past
- 1:46month
- 1:46alone
- 1:47we've
- 1:47seen
- 1:47big
- 1:48announcements
- 1:48from
- 1:49Walmart
- 1:49and
- 1:49Amazon
- 1:50to
- 1:50that
- 1:51end
- 1:51and
- 1:51they're
- 1:51doing
- 1:51it
- 1:52by
- 1:52way
- 1:52of
- 1:52quote
- 1:52unquote,
- 1:53the
- 1:53dark
- 1:53store
- 1:53concept,
- 1:54which
- 1:54is
- 1:54the
- 1:54fulfillment
- 1:55center
- 1:55that
- 1:56is,
- 1:56you
- 1:56know,
- 1:57close
- 1:57to
- 1:57the
- 1:57consumer
- 1:58locally
- 1:58where
- 1:58the,
- 1:59where
- 1:59they
- 1:59know
- 1:59the
- 1:59demand
- 2:00is
- 2:00going
- 2:00to
- 2:00be.
- 2:01And
- 2:01to
- 2:01me,
- 2:02you
- 2:02all
- 2:02at
- 2:03Veloc
- 2:03and
- 2:03Roelic
- 2:04are
- 2:04the
- 2:04proof
- 2:04point
- 2:05that
- 2:05that
- 2:05model
- 2:05actually
- 2:06works.
- 2:06So,
- 2:07so
- 2:07how
- 2:07do
- 2:07you,
- 2:08how
- 2:08do
- 2:08you
- 2:09think
- 2:09about
- 2:09that?
- 2:09Is
- 2:09that
- 2:09a
- 2:10requirement,
- 2:10the
- 2:10dark
- 2:10store
- 2:11approach?
- 2:11Is
- 2:11that
- 2:11a
- 2:11requirement
- 2:12to
- 2:12making
- 2:12this
- 2:12model
- 2:13work
- 2:13in
- 2:13the
- 2:13long
- 2:13term
- 2:13to
- 2:14get
- 2:14to
- 2:14same
- 2:14day?
- 2:15I'm
- 2:15a
- 2:15firm
- 2:16believer
- 2:16in
- 2:16same
- 2:16day.
- 2:17For
- 2:17a
- 2:17long
- 2:17time
- 2:17people
- 2:18said
- 2:18customers
- 2:19don't
- 2:19necessarily
- 2:20care
- 2:20about
- 2:20same
- 2:20day,
- 2:20but
- 2:21they
- 2:21actually
- 2:21do
- 2:21and
- 2:22they
- 2:22want
- 2:23it
- 2:24as
- 2:24short
- 2:24as
- 2:24three
- 2:24hours
- 2:25or
- 2:25even
- 2:2530
- 2:25minutes
- 2:26these
- 2:26days
- 2:26in
- 2:26the
- 2:26U.S.
- 2:28it
- 2:28can
- 2:28be
- 2:29profitable.
- 2:29As
- 2:29you
- 2:30said,
- 2:30you're
- 2:30thinking
- 2:30about
- 2:31density
- 2:32and
- 2:32demand.
- 2:33So
- 2:33really
- 2:34building
- 2:34those
- 2:34sites
- 2:35very,
- 2:35very
- 2:36efficiently
- 2:37around
- 2:37where
- 2:37the
- 2:38customers
- 2:38are
- 2:39and
- 2:39automating
- 2:40everything
- 2:40from
- 2:41picking
- 2:41to,
- 2:42to
- 2:42labor
- 2:42management
- 2:43to
- 2:43how
- 2:44the
- 2:44route
- 2:45is
- 2:45distributed
- 2:46for
- 2:46the
- 2:46last
- 2:46mile.
- 2:47And
- 2:47it
- 2:47can
- 2:48really
- 2:48work.
- 2:48The
- 2:48promise
- 2:49itself
- 2:49isn't
- 2:49the
- 2:49problem,
- 2:50it's
- 2:50how
- 2:50you
- 2:50execute
- 2:51it.
- 2:51Yeah.
- 2:52And
- 2:52to
- 2:52get,
- 2:52to
- 2:52get
- 2:52the
- 2:52efficiency
- 2:53of
- 2:53same
- 2:53day
- 2:53right.
- 2:53They
- 2:54don't
- 2:54need
- 2:54to
- 2:54be
- 2:54necessarily
- 2:55located
- 2:55in
- 2:56the
- 2:56store,
- 2:56which
- 2:56is
- 2:56where
- 2:57the
- 2:57industry
- 2:57at
- 2:58least
- 2:58over
- 2:58here
- 2:58was
- 2:58trying
- 2:59to
- 2:59go
- 2:59initially.
- 3:00Because
- 3:00you
- 3:00guys
- 3:00don't
- 3:01have
- 3:01stores,
- 3:01you
- 3:02know,
- 3:02at
- 3:02the
- 3:02roll
- 3:02it
- 3:02group
- 3:02and
- 3:03you're
- 3:03doing
- 3:03it
- 3:03successfully.
- 3:04Absolutely.
- 3:05We
- 3:05have
- 3:0612
- 3:06different
- 3:06fulfillment
- 3:07centers.
- 3:07We
- 3:08don't
- 3:08have
- 3:08any
- 3:08physical
- 3:09stores.
- 3:10We've
- 3:10really
- 3:11built
- 3:11the
- 3:11model
- 3:12around
- 3:12online
- 3:13and
- 3:13this
- 3:13is
- 3:13where
- 3:13the
- 3:14grocers
- 3:14who
- 3:14win
- 3:15will
- 3:15do
- 3:15it.
- 3:15It's
- 3:16about
- 3:16really
- 3:16building
- 3:17the
- 3:17model
- 3:17around
- 3:18delivery
- 3:19and
- 3:19not
- 3:19trying
- 3:19to
- 3:20repurpose
- 3:20your
- 3:20infrastructure
- 3:21from
- 3:21the
- 3:21store
- 3:22to
- 3:23deliver
- 3:23online.
- 3:24So
- 3:24let's
- 3:24roll
- 3:24it
- 3:24back
- 3:25a
- 3:25little
- 3:25bit.
- 3:25Let's
- 3:26talk
- 3:26about
- 3:26store
- 3:26based
- 3:27picking.
- 3:27Does
- 3:27that
- 3:27model
- 3:28still
- 3:28make
- 3:28sense
- 3:29in
- 3:29certain
- 3:29instances
- 3:30and
- 3:30how
- 3:31do
- 3:31you
- 3:31decide
- 3:32when
- 3:32you
- 3:32need
- 3:32to
- 3:33go
- 3:33away
- 3:33from
- 3:33it
- 3:33and
- 3:34create
- 3:34a
- 3:34dedicated
- 3:34fulfillment
- 3:35center
- 3:35like
- 3:35we
- 3:35were
- 3:35just
- 3:36discussing?
- 3:36I
- 3:37think
- 3:37there's
- 3:37still
- 3:37a
- 3:37case
- 3:37for
- 3:37store
- 3:38based
- 3:38picking
- 3:38when
- 3:39you're
- 3:39talking
- 3:39about
- 3:40an
- 3:40online
- 3:41penetration
- 3:41that's
- 3:42still
- 3:42slow.
- 3:43When
- 3:43you
- 3:43have
- 3:43good
- 3:44store
- 3:44coverage,
- 3:44you
- 3:45have
- 3:45spare
- 3:45capacity
- 3:46in
- 3:46that
- 3:46store
- 3:46and
- 3:47you're
- 3:47promising
- 3:47next
- 3:48day
- 3:48delivery
- 3:49or
- 3:49delivery
- 3:49in
- 3:508,
- 3:5010
- 3:50hours.
- 3:51Reusing
- 3:51that
- 3:51store
- 3:52space
- 3:52and
- 3:53your
- 3:54staff
- 3:54and
- 3:54your
- 3:54stock
- 3:55can
- 3:55be
- 3:56really
- 3:56a
- 3:56low
- 3:56entry
- 3:57point
- 3:57to
- 3:57online.
- 3:59You
- 3:59start
- 3:59to
- 3:59need
- 3:59more
- 4:00capacity
- 4:00when
- 4:02you're
- 4:02exceeding
- 4:03about
- 4:03300
- 4:04orders
- 4:04per
- 4:04day.
- 4:05When
- 4:05you're
- 4:05hitting
- 4:06about
- 4:06500,
- 4:06you
- 4:07have
- 4:07to
- 4:07start
- 4:07thinking
- 4:07about
- 4:08MFCs
- 4:08because
- 4:08what
- 4:09happens
- 4:09is
- 4:09your
- 4:10physical
- 4:10shoppers
- 4:11start
- 4:11to
- 4:11compete
- 4:12with
- 4:12your
- 4:12pickers.
- 4:12And
- 4:13that's
- 4:13about
- 4:13experience
- 4:13for
- 4:13everyone.
- 4:14The
- 4:14numbers
- 4:15start
- 4:15to
- 4:15really
- 4:15make
- 4:16sense
- 4:16when
- 4:16you
- 4:17go
- 4:17over
- 4:17500
- 4:18and
- 4:18that's
- 4:18when
- 4:19you
- 4:19can
- 4:19really
- 4:20improve
- 4:20your
- 4:20UPH.
- 4:21You
- 4:21can
- 4:21really,
- 4:22really
- 4:23reduce
- 4:23your
- 4:24picking
- 4:24labor
- 4:24hours.
- 4:24You
- 4:25can
- 4:26significantly
- 4:26improve
- 4:27your
- 4:27cost
- 4:27per
- 4:27order
- 4:27as
- 4:28well.
- 4:29Rita,
- 4:29is
- 4:29it
- 4:30all
- 4:30about
- 4:30order
- 4:30volume
- 4:30too?
- 4:31Or
- 4:31does
- 4:31the
- 4:31control
- 4:31of
- 4:32the
- 4:32customer
- 4:32journey
- 4:33also
- 4:33factor
- 4:33into
- 4:34when
- 4:34you
- 4:34think
- 4:34you
- 4:34need
- 4:35to
- 4:35kind
- 4:35of
- 4:35unplug
- 4:36from
- 4:36the
- 4:37third
- 4:37party
- 4:37platforms
- 4:38too?
- 4:38The
- 4:39way
- 4:39that
- 4:39we've
- 4:39thought
- 4:39about
- 4:39it
- 4:40at
- 4:40Rolik
- 4:40Group
- 4:41is
- 4:41we've
- 4:42built
- 4:42everything
- 4:42around
- 4:43the
- 4:43customer
- 4:44proposition
- 4:44and
- 4:45this
- 4:45is
- 4:45what
- 4:45drives
- 4:46the
- 4:46service
- 4:46that
- 4:46we're
- 4:47creating
- 4:47at
- 4:47Veloc.
- 4:48Right.
- 4:48If
- 4:48we're
- 4:48promising
- 4:49the
- 4:49customer
- 4:50same
- 4:50day.
- 4:51We
- 4:51need
- 4:51to
- 4:51build
- 4:51an
- 4:51infrastructure
- 4:52that
- 4:52delivers
- 4:53on
- 4:53same
- 4:53day.
- 4:54If
- 4:54you're
- 4:55a
- 4:55physical
- 4:56grocery
- 4:56store,
- 4:57you
- 4:57need
- 4:57to
- 4:57be
- 4:57thinking
- 4:58about
- 4:58the
- 4:58in
- 4:58store
- 4:59experience
- 4:59for
- 4:59your
- 4:59customer
- 5:00just
- 5:00as
- 5:00well
- 5:00as
- 5:01the
- 5:01online
- 5:01experience
- 5:01for
- 5:02those
- 5:02customers.
- 5:03If
- 5:03you
- 5:03want
- 5:04to
- 5:04win
- 5:04in
- 5:04the
- 5:04future,
- 5:05those
- 5:05channels
- 5:05have
- 5:06to
- 5:06work
- 5:06side
- 5:06by
- 5:06side
- 5:06and
- 5:07not
- 5:07in
- 5:07silos.
- 5:08You
- 5:08have
- 5:08to
- 5:08think
- 5:08about
- 5:09the
- 5:09entire
- 5:09customer
- 5:10journey
- 5:11because
- 5:12your
- 5:12omnichannel
- 5:13has
- 5:13to
- 5:13be
- 5:14one
- 5:14operating
- 5:14system
- 5:15and
- 5:15they
- 5:15can't
- 5:16compete.
- 5:16The
- 5:16minute
- 5:17they
- 5:17start
- 5:17competing,
- 5:17you're
- 5:18losing
- 5:18the
- 5:18customer
- 5:18both
- 5:18in
- 5:19store
- 5:19and
- 5:19online.
- 5:20All
- 5:20right,
- 5:20well,
- 5:20let's
- 5:20get
- 5:20you
- 5:21out
- 5:21here
- 5:21on
- 5:21this
- 5:21then.
- 5:21I'm
- 5:22curious,
- 5:22what
- 5:22do
- 5:22you
- 5:22think
- 5:23is
- 5:23going
- 5:23to
- 5:23define
- 5:24the
- 5:24winners
- 5:24in
- 5:25online
- 5:25grocery
- 5:26over
- 5:26the
- 5:26next
- 5:26decade?
- 5:27Chris,
- 5:27Online
- 5:28grocery
- 5:28is
- 5:28not
- 5:28going
- 5:29away.
- 5:29You
- 5:29know,
- 5:30by
- 5:302030,
- 5:31it's
- 5:31going
- 5:31to
- 5:31make
- 5:31up
- 5:3230%
- 5:33of
- 5:33all
- 5:33grocery,
- 5:33and
- 5:34that's
- 5:34not
- 5:34a
- 5:34small
- 5:34number.
- 5:34So
- 5:35we
- 5:35need
- 5:35to
- 5:35really
- 5:35start
- 5:36thinking
- 5:36as
- 5:36omnichannel
- 5:37as
- 5:37one
- 5:37operating
- 5:38system
- 5:38and
- 5:38not
- 5:39three
- 5:39silos.
- 5:40You
- 5:40know,
- 5:40shoppers
- 5:41are
- 5:41already
- 5:41mixing
- 5:42online
- 5:42within
- 5:42store.
- 5:43So
- 5:44winners
- 5:44really
- 5:44have
- 5:45to
- 5:45think
- 5:45about
- 5:45that
- 5:45entire
- 5:46customer
- 5:46experience
- 5:47and
- 5:47start
- 5:48optimizing
- 5:48for
- 5:49both.
- 5:50Everyone's
- 5:50talking
- 5:50about
- 5:50AI
- 5:51these
- 5:51days,
- 5:51right?
- 5:52We've
- 5:53talked
- 5:53about
- 5:53fulfillment
- 5:54centers
- 5:54and
- 5:55automation
- 5:55for
- 5:55years.
- 5:56But
- 5:56what
- 5:57we
- 5:57need
- 5:57to
- 5:57think
- 5:57about
- 5:58right
- 5:58now
- 5:58is
- 5:59how
- 5:59all
- 5:59of
- 6:00those
- 6:00systems
- 6:00interact
- 6:01together.
- 6:01So
- 6:02from
- 6:02demand
- 6:03planning
- 6:03to
- 6:04replenishment
- 6:04to
- 6:05labor
- 6:05planning
- 6:06to
- 6:06routing,
- 6:07to
- 6:07robotic
- 6:08picking,
- 6:08to
- 6:09price
- 6:09and
- 6:10promo
- 6:10optimization,
- 6:12to
- 6:12the
- 6:13last
- 6:13mile
- 6:13and
- 6:13the
- 6:13routing,
- 6:14all
- 6:14of
- 6:14those
- 6:15have
- 6:15to
- 6:15play
- 6:15together
- 6:16so
- 6:16that
- 6:16you're
- 6:16delivering
- 6:17on
- 6:17your
- 6:17promise.
- 6:18And
- 6:18if
- 6:18that
- 6:18promise
- 6:19is
- 6:19same
- 6:19day,
- 6:20then
- 6:20that's
- 6:20what
- 6:20you're
- 6:21optimizing
- 6:21for.
- 6:22I
- 6:23think
- 6:23that
- 6:23the
- 6:23winners
- 6:24really
- 6:24will
- 6:24have
- 6:24made
- 6:25clear
- 6:25choices
- 6:26on
- 6:27how
- 6:27they
- 6:27use
- 6:27their
- 6:28stores,
- 6:28where
- 6:29they
- 6:29add
- 6:29dark
- 6:29stores,
- 6:30where
- 6:30they
- 6:30build
- 6:30an
- 6:30FC
- 6:31and
- 6:31what
- 6:31that
- 6:31looks
- 6:32like.
- 6:32I
- 6:32think
- 6:33that's
- 6:33a
- 6:33great
- 6:33nugget
- 6:33to
- 6:33end
- 6:34on
- 6:34because
- 6:34you're
- 6:34saying
- 6:34there's
- 6:34the
- 6:35infrastructural
- 6:35question
- 6:35and
- 6:36then
- 6:36there's
- 6:36also
- 6:36the
- 6:37software
- 6:37side
- 6:37of
- 6:38this
- 6:38that
- 6:38is
- 6:38going
- 6:38to
- 6:38become
- 6:39even
- 6:39more
- 6:39important
- 6:40to
- 6:40make
- 6:40the
- 6:40model
- 6:41work.
- 6:41And
- 6:41it
- 6:41all
- 6:41comes
- 6:42back
- 6:42to
- 6:42what
- 6:42you
- 6:42said
- 6:43at
- 6:43the
- 6:43throughout
- 6:44this
- 6:44discussion,
- 6:44which
- 6:45is
- 6:45you
- 6:45have
- 6:46to
- 6:46build
- 6:46the
- 6:46model
- 6:47that
- 6:47meets
- 6:48the
- 6:48demand,
- 6:48not
- 6:48of
- 6:49just
- 6:49of
- 6:49your
- 6:49customer
- 6:49today,
- 6:50but
- 6:50of
- 6:50where
- 6:50your
- 6:50customer
- 6:51is
- 6:51going
- 6:51in
- 6:51the
- 6:51future.
- 6:52So
- 6:53thank
- 6:53you
- 6:53so
- 6:53much,
- 6:53Rita.
- 6:54That
- 6:54was
- 6:54excellent.
- 6:54Thank
- 6:55you
- 6:55so
- 6:55much
- 6:55for
- 6:55having
- 6:55me,
- 6:56Chris.