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Why Hiding Away Won't Always Fix Your Low Battery · Reframe

• 0:12
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Reframe, where honest conversations create new possibilities.
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  SPEAKER_00: With Sarah and Danny, and each week we sit down together to explore life, growth, and everything in between.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_00: Hello, Danny.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_00: Hi, how are you?
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_00: Hi Sarah!
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_01: Lovely to be here again.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm just gonna repeat what I've just said to you because we're bringing it live.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_01: I have had a busy week, a great week, feeling very full, but feeling also a little low energetically this morning.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_01: You can even hear it in my voice.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I knew what was gonna happen was a 20-minute conversation with you, and I feel like my battery is literally charging.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm seeing it go to green, and it's just so lovely to be here with you again.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_00: So thank you for boosting my energy today.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness, thank you so much, and um, for saying that and just also affirming that kind of like that's the power of being in aligned conversations that we kind of we build, we can build our energy and boost our energy, and very we both have this sacral energy which we can enliven within each other, within our human design, and so that kind of like really makes a lot of sense to me that you know, like also I know that you have some splits in your chart, so that when we come together, that means that you get some more definition and that your energy flow in a different way, which is energizing for you.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, I know there's a lot of things I just said in that one sentence, isn't there?
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_00: So let's just unpack a little bit.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, please explain a little bit more for me.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so human design-wise, so if you are a sacral being, which means you have your sacral center defined, so you'll be a manifestor or a manifesting generator.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: This is like life force energy.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when it gets a little, when you're when your energy is low, it feels a bit flat, you'll feel a little bit frustrated with yourself, and when that energy is when that center is revved, when the energy gets going in that center, then that kind of like feels like it's you're coming alive, and that's you that's that reboot of your battery almost, like kind of we come together, we talk, and that's kind of sparked new ideas in your centre, which has got your creative juices going within that within your sacral, and that's that energy coming alive again.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_00: So I think that that's a little bit of it, that kind of what happens when we kind of we can feel a little bit flat, and so it's that thing where we can feel a little bit flat, actually, and sometimes we think that that's a reason to hide and to not see people, but actually, that's just the evidence there that that's not always true, that actually we can kind of bring ourselves back a little bit in in communication, in relationship with other people, and then I know that you have um a I think you have a triple split in your chart, and I'm not certain about this, but I think I'm pretty certain that you've got a split anyway, and what that sometimes means is that um, so you have parts of you that are joined through a channel, and like two centres will be joined together with a channel, and then another two centres will be joined together with a channel, but they're not joined to each other.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_00: But then when you come into contact with somebody else's chart, that does bring that energy into contact with each other.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm not sure how whether I'm describing this well, but basically, it helps your energy flow more through your chart, and so that kind of connection that you get kind of from being in around other people just lights your system up in a different way and helps your energy flow in a different way again, um, which can feel a little bit more easeful for you, and you know that's like overcoming kind of feelings of stuckness, so that's just that.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so yeah, so that's just that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the interesting thing for me is that also I have just come out of before this, I've had a human design reading that I've done for somebody this morning, and um that person, you know, I could visibly sense and feel the shift in her energy through the session that we had because I really do sense and feel energy, and that's really nice to sense and feel that, and I I've really attuned that as part of what I do is to sense and feel energy and to be able to kind of like to support people to move energy through them and also to elevate their energy.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_00: So I've just been in a session where that's happened, and so what I actually feel is that oh, I've brought that energy into this session, is what I'm saying.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_00: It's like I've had that experience of being in something that's so me, me doing what I love doing, and then I've brought that into here, and then your energy has connected to that in me, and so it's elevated your energy as well.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_00: So there's lots of different ways that you can work with your energy or that your energy gets shifted in relationship with other people, is what I'm saying.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_00: So I suppose that's a nice thing for us to be talking about is how actually we kind of actually grow and open up around other people, as opposed to that kind of thinking that sometimes we need to hide and be alone when we're not feeling great.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, and how beautifully explained, first of all, it makes so much sense to me, and I think this is something that came up yesterday, actually, and I wish I could remember the phrase that they use, but the idea of like the people that that energize you or or drain you, and I don't think it's necessarily for me as specific as that because I do feel energized when I'm around other people, and the fact that you've said that actually it flows through me.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_01: I can I can really resonate with that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't think I necessarily know exactly what it means logically, but I sense ah, that makes a lot of sense for what you've just said.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_01: But sometimes I can have like yesterday being in a room of people, the energy, the conversation's fantastic, but then it does take it out of me the next day.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_01: But what a beautiful reminder for me that actually I can have this conversation with you and and rebuild it.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_01: And what I love is it's not always as simplistic, I think, as what we see on the online world, or just in general, of like people energize you, people drain you, introverted, extroverted, bit of a mixture of both.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_01: Where I see for you and your incredible knowledge of energy and moving with it is that reminder of it, it's not necessarily straightforward, but it's knowing, and this is the conversation that we were having with whether in alignment or energy definitely flows in a different way, and I'm sure you can speak a lot more to what I've just said than I can.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I just want to say before we go is I want to say um to bring into context, I'd like you to just say what you were doing yesterday because that's all part just to um to share with the sort of things that you do.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, would you do that?
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  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, yesterday I was at an event in London as part of someone's um VIP day.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_01: Meg Hudson, thank you for inviting me.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was an incredible day, incredible people.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_01: She was doing a marketing VIP day, and I was essentially a guest expert speaking about confidence and showing up online.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_01: And where this conversation started from, wasn't it, was interestingly to sit there and talk about confidence.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't say I'm a confident speaker, especially in person, because I'm not used to doing it, and I can definitely get flashbacks of when I was a child and speaking in front of the class and not a fine memory of mine, but it's something I'm pushing myself to do, and what it said was it took me a little bit longer to get into than I perhaps imagined, but when I did an activity, that's when I really felt relaxed and confident, and the rest of the session went so well from there.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_01: And you were explaining, as you beautifully do, with human design and being in alignment, that actually that probably works better for me, the conversation and the um the activity part of it than the teaching part of it, which is so true for me.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_01: If I think of the start of the session being in here's the education, here's the teaching part of it, to let's all talk about it and share.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_01: I definitely noticed how comfortable and relaxed and my energy changed.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_00: And what would what I was saying to you was is that is because that's more an aligned way for you to be in involved with people and to be sharing and and to be kind of like so.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_00: The first part of that would be that you know, as a as a manifesting generator, your your strategy is to respond.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_00: So in any situation like that, where you give yourself something to respond to, so you get the audience to feed, feed you with something, to give you some information about what's going on for them, then you will automatically find what's you need to respond to them with.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_00: You'll find the things that like within your knowledge that will kind of bring that, can bring that up for you.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_00: So you just look your system's looking for something for it to resonate, to resonate with, to give you that kind of like opportunity.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_00: And then also, um, I know that you have this gate six in your chart as your key, like your sun gate, which is all about intimacy and bringing people close.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I think we've talked about this before on the podcast, but it's this ability to give people make people feel relaxed in in their their in in your space, so that they can be them true their true selves and allow themselves to kind of share on a more intimate level, which is this beautiful quality that you have that you can why you are so good in conversation, because you draw people into this kind of ease and kind of um safety almost with being open.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and that because you so naturally radiate that yourself, it's like a reflective, like we kind of like feel like we want to match that within you, um, which is why that's such a beautiful thing.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_00: So, we what we were saying, what I was saying to you was is that when you do those things, really allow yourself the opportunity to let other people speak because they that's what they will feel like they want to do in your energy, and that's aligned.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: And we can get into our heads that if you're gonna be a guest expert on something, that what you are supposed to do is show up and have all this information and have all the details, and what if somebody questions whether I know what I'm talking about?
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_00: Whereas actually your energy is just saying that your expertise is in getting people to open up, and so that's all you have to do.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I'd also shared with you that in the past I'd felt like I had to have everything prepared, have all the notes prepared, a speech, like you know, the way it's gonna flow and all of this perfected before, whereas actually I'm leaning in to put something on a slide and know what I'm I'm gonna speak about.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_01: And I think the pressure for that for me is is wildly different.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_01: The pressure to remember and and deliver is very different to oh, okay, I know this subject and what's gonna come out is gonna come out.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_01: And I know that you've said that for me, and that works in the way that I'm aligned as well, and that feels a lot uh more natural to me.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_01: But what was going through my head as you said that then was it took a lot of time to get there and to trust in myself that I do know what is needed or can uh handle the conversation, I guess.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_01: And in those moments where we have the activity in the open conversation, I know I can respond and I know exactly what needs what I need to say, and that's where all my knowledge, I guess, comes in.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_01: It's a very different model.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_01: But what you were saying was you're perhaps a different way, you are more meant to give the information and not present, but teach and let people integrate, you said.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I in my energy, like it's a different way of like I am supposed to have more of a kind of slightly detached way of being in connection.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_00: That sounds like a little that sounds like a controversial contradiction in terms, but it's like I'm not supposed to be really right in it with everybody.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_00: I have sort of like a slightly detached kind of energy that means that I'm here to deliver and talk about the things that are my wisdom and the things that I've embodied because a lot of my energy is about the embodied wisdom, deep wisdom, and it's supposed to be delivered and then it's supposed to be felt and experienced, but it's not necessarily for everybody to start talking about or kind of um for me to get into the in-depths of it all with people.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's almost about I'm delivering, I'm shifting your energy, I'm making the making the the transformation or the change in our system by my presence, but the actual kind of unpicking the why and let's what's happened here and who's what's happened to this person, what's that's literally not what I'm designed to do.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_00: And whenever I try and do that within what I do, it never feels good.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_00: And yet you will be told by people that you need to get, you know, that that that's an important part of how you run a community or how you do this or how you do that.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_00: And so I've really had to learn that that's not my way of doing it, and to be okay with it because it just doesn't work for me, um, and so yeah, so it's it's kind of the this whole thing of we're all designed to do things so differently, and we have to really watch the advice that we're given and make sure that we are always coming back to our own authority and our own understanding of ourself as the last point of reference.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_00: Last point of reference in anything should always be an internal point of reference, not an external point of reference.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but that just means you need to get to know yourself because we're always going to rely on things outside of ourselves when we don't trust or know what's inside of us.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_01: And I feel like this is a conversation we've had probably quite often since we've met of being in different uh containers, coaching containers, whatever programs we've been in.
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  SPEAKER_01: It could be so easy to not do that.
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  SPEAKER_01: We've invested in someone, we're working with experts, we're working with people who you know really have their own knowledge of things.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so I and I'm speaking for myself here, I've definitely then felt like there's a one way to do it, or this is the formula that I need to follow.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_01: I've definitely felt the frustration with it, I've definitely felt that stuckness of why is this not working for me?
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: And then I have conversations with you, and I'm reminded exactly why because I'm not meant to do it that way.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_01: And you said as well, everything you've said there is yes, internally, check in with yourself.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_01: But what you said before was uh about the conversation and the getting in and the nitty-gritty for you.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_01: You said that's not in your your chart or your energy or your alignment.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and I can't remember the words that you said, but essentially people also feel that when it's not genuine and in alignment for you, it's other people feel it, but it's not always obvious, is it?
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so it doesn't so my system doesn't invite the conversation.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: So if I try and if I try and force the conversation, then it really doesn't it, it doesn't people are like, oh, I don't know what to say, or I they've got nothing to say.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: Because really what their system is taking in is the wisdom and that it's allowing it's integrating and it's allowing the space.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like if I do movement practices with people and we do like a a what I call an energy awakening practice, I don't I don't sit around afterwards and get people necessarily unless they want to, if there's a there's an invitation there, but I will not insist that people tell me what's been going on and what the experience they had and what went on there, because it just doesn't it's not aligned for me to do that.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel also this is another thing that I think is really important as soon as we start to put all our experiences into language, we almost reduce them because our language cannot fully express or cannot always fully express, we can't always find the words to describe an experience, and if we're not ready to describe it or explain it or talk about it, then we the words we find kind of almost minimize the experience, if that makes sense.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_00: So there's this kind of like forcing all the time, some like of explain what's going on, tell me your experience, tell me what your insights are, tell me this, like let's all talk when actually sometimes it's not the right time to talk.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I agree, and as a talking therapist, I agree because sometimes I see clients try to explain, and you've just again perfectly um explained perhaps what I didn't know was happening, but I definitely see it with clients.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_01: This is I need to speak or I need to explain it to you, I need to give you the story, I need to give you the context, and sometimes I don't need to know any of that.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_01: I actually don't really need to know the situation that's happened in whatever scenario.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: But the stillness, the sitting with the uh the sensations that we feel, sometimes just allowing that space, and you can do that with someone, and I can do that with clients.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_01: We can have stillness and just sit with what is going on, and just having the that space to allow it, I think is so powerful.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_01: And even I did it before.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_01: Logically, my brain hasn't caught up to what you said, but it made sense to me, and that was from my body, not my not my mind.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's allowing that um experience of being more than your mind to know that actually where something really lands in you is not in your mind, but it's in your body, it's in the sense, it's the in the integration of that kind of going into your system, and that is on a different level to just being able to think it.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: But it's like an an experience within you, yeah.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_01: And I would really love to ask you something that you said before of me responding to the energy of your human design session.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_01: Is that the energy uh is that me still connecting to your energy?
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_01: Or in a way, is it effectively I'm picking up on the energy that you shared with someone else energetically?
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_00: So here's the thing.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_00: So I would say that a little bit of what goes on there is this that I've just been doing something that I absolutely love doing, and it makes me feel so alive.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, and the the client has just given me some incredible feedback at the end of the session about how she experienced that.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_00: So there's a part of me, and my one center that is defined that isn't this isn't defined with you, which is myself.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_00: So it's to do with my identity, and it's also to do with our egos, actually.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: But my identity's had a real kind of like a boost and a bolster in that sense.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_00: So where you're open in your chart, and I think this is right, um, is that you will feel that in me.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: So I've come into a space with a kind of a really elevated and expanded sense of who I am, and because you're open in your in that center, you've totally picked up on that energy within me, which has given your energy a boost.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_00: Does that make sense?
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it it absolutely does.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I feel like we're gonna have lots of conversations of energy because I have so many different questions, but maybe I should keep that for another podcast recording.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_00: I'm literally just wanting to um to see um just having a look quickly at your chart if I can.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, yes, I just want that.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_00: I'm pretty certain that that's the way it is.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: But that's what we do through our open centers in human design is we sense other people's energy.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: And sometimes that's an amazing thing because it depends on the the quality of the energy of the other person, and sometimes that cannot be the greatest experience, but everything we've got to remember that everything is information for us, so it just gives you a sense of what's going on in the field around you, what's going on.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: You don't have to uh identify with it, you don't have to become attached to it, doesn't have to define who you are, but it's just a sense of that's what you're experiencing in the field right now.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so I do have a final question for you.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: How do you remember everyone's charts?
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness, that's a good, really good question.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_00: And I really don't know because it's not something again.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: If you look at my human design, I um I don't remember a lot, I don't have a great like I can be quite forgiven.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Forgetful, but where it's important, I remember, and it's almost like that is an indicator to me of why human design is part of my mission, of part of why I'm here, because to be able to remember what I do remember about human design means there's something very aligned for me within human design, if that makes sense.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_00: So that's just it.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I I'm just really fascinated by people's energy, and then and really what I'm fascinated by is the way people behave and they hold themselves and who they are and their identity, and so it's it really kind of sparks an interest in me that just stays, and so that's how I kind of rem that's how I remember.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_01: It is an incredible gift because everything that you've just said there is from your memory in my chart, and you you do that every time we speak, you'll pick up this.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm so specific.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_01: This gate and this center and this, whatever the the words are, you remember it so incredibly.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_01: So maybe I said I would finish on that last question.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna ask you one more question, and maybe we finish up there.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_01: Is there anything kind of universally that you would advise or recommend for shifting energy?
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um big question, I know.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I have this corner I have this, I have this practice which which is at the cornerstone of everything that I do.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_00: And if you do a session with me, then this is a thing that I will always do.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: And it's it's the three words are ground, soften, breathe.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: And it's the grounding part of it, the first bit where you actually allow yourself to notice the ground beneath you, let your whole body rest into the support of the ground beneath you.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_00: So if you're sitting at the moment, you might be able to feel the chair behind you, underneath you, or your feet are down into the ground, then you can sense the support of the earth holding you.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_00: And just in the moment that we all do that, just in the moment that we remember that we are supported, that we're being literally held into the earth by her like pull.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're not floating off somewhere, we're held, we're anchored to the ground.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's like everybody knows that.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_00: But when you under when you allow yourself to feel that, just in that moment where you give yourself that like sense of oh yeah, I'm I'm being supported, there is an instant softening that can come in you.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_00: And that's the point where I think we can all remember from there that everything that's going on around us, whatever we're feeling, whatever we're sensing is something that will move through and is not, you know, isn't is not who we are.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_00: This sense of we can find this sense of groundedness within ourselves that's more true to who we are.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: And that to me is if we can all remember that, you know, so to use the ground as that support and then to to soften the body, to let go of any tension, give your shoulders a little wiggle, allow your body to relax as much as you can, and then find a nice big in-breath and a long ex outbreath and exhale.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_00: If you can reset yourself like that, you've just given yourself a moment of presence, and from that point you can choose differently about how you're experiencing anything in life.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_01: How beautiful! I really love what you've just said there.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, I know that we're we're we're pulled down, but really the way that you said it landed very differently for me today.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_01: And what a beautiful way for connectedness, for groundedness, to think that we are literally so connected and pulled down to the earth has just really landed so beautifully for me.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_01: So I've gone from quite low battery to high battery to now lovely, calm, easeful, soft, and what a gorgeous way to take into my Friday afternoon.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_01: So thank you, thank you, thank you, Sarah, as always.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's not a problem.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I've got a free resource called Ground Soften and Breed.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: So I'll put the link below in the show notes and then everybody can access it for themselves as well.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_00: Including myself.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_00: So thank you.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, then.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, thank you, Danielle, for all your wonderful questions today.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_00: See, that's just it.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: You in your absolute zone, me in my absolute zone.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_00: I hope that that has been useful to people.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_00: Take care.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_00: I will see you again soon.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, speak to you soon.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, bye.