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Pilot Episode - The Messy [Manifesting Generator] Middle. · Reframe

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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Reframe, where honest conversations create new possibilities.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're Sarah and Danny, and each week we sit down together to explore life, growth, and everything in between.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, here we are.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here we are.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here we are.
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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's go.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're welcoming each other and anybody who's listening into a first ever episode of Rewired Rewired.
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  SPEAKER_00: Reframed.
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  SPEAKER_00: Reframed with um Danny and Sarah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome Danny.
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  SPEAKER_00: How are you?
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for that, Sarah.
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  SPEAKER_01: How fabulous.
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  SPEAKER_01: And also I think shows we're going with the messy, the messy middle, aren't we, as we do this?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Going along with whatever whatever comes.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think that that's what I always love about our conversations and kind of why we've why we've decided to do this is because we just let the conversations unfold and take us wherever they need to go, don't we?
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's like that kind of like we start talking and then we're still talking and talking and talking and talking.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but in that time we've always covered so much and considered so much and reflected on so much and maybe kind of altered our perception on things a little bit in the meantime.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's such a beautiful thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a beautiful reason why I love, love, love hanging out with you and speaking to you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was thinking about this a little bit earlier, actually, and just thinking how you are one person that I knew I was meant to meet.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're just we there's some people that you meet, and I've found this a lot more recently over the last few years.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's a few people that I think you know you're meant to meet, but then there's also people that you just know that you instantly click with, and I think you are definitely that person.
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  SPEAKER_01: If I think of when we went to that co-working and we sat next to each other and we did zero work, yeah, or I think you did a few emails.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I might have done.
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  SPEAKER_01: I didn't do anything, and I think what I love meeting people like you more recently is meeting each other where we are, as the people that we are, and just being comfortable and grounded in that allows for such a fantastic connection, and I think that's why we have the conversations that we do, like we've skipped the surface level straight away.
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  SPEAKER_00: Straight away, absolutely on that day.
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  SPEAKER_01: There was no, we didn't even no, I think five minutes in you were reading my human design.
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  SPEAKER_00: I really was five minutes in reading your human design, and then we were just energy talk.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it was just all about alignment and energy and how we find that you know, that sense of what's right for us in life and what isn't, and just coming round to that because obviously it's this is the way that our conversations tend to go, you know, for you having those realizations that people then that people that you click with and that make you feel like this is a right space for me, this is the right thing for me, that's in your design because you are a four, you have a four in your profile, and you know, the people that you meet, the connections that you make are the places that you learn, are the places that you that your success grows from.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that feels amazing for me that I can be one of those people for you, without a doubt.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is why we click so well, as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: The way that you read human design is so special and so incredible, like you've just done then.
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  SPEAKER_01: You say the four, I know absolutely nothing about what the four or the number means, but you explain it in such a way that is so relatable, and that's one of the first things that really stood out for me and what you do.
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  SPEAKER_01: I've never met anyone that reads in the way that you do.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, thank you.
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  SPEAKER_00: That that means a lot for me, and I I, you know, I knew instantly with human design that it was something that I was going to be passionate about, and then also instantly knew and recognized myself in the my energy type, which is a manifesting generator, which is also what you are as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's the incredible thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Two manifesting generators jumping around into all sorts of different things and exploring lots of different things all at the same time, but that was the point, is that I knew instantly that as a manifesting generator, I do have the potential to love something and then go off it very quickly, and not because I've lost interest in it, but because I get the interest, I have the interest in it, and then I get what I need from it, and then I move on.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I was also really it was really important to me in those early stages of of learning about human design that I just focused on it for myself and knew that it was something that was going to be with me for the long term.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's been about five years now for me since I first discovered it, which is not long compared to some people, but I mean I really do have a passion and it kind of it does it does in enter my mind all the time, like when I'm doing things, when I'm working with people, when I'm talking to new people, I'm like, oh I wonder what's oh they are, I wonder if this is in their chart, or I wonder if that, and then no, so it just it does, it is something that thank you because it means a lot to me to have that seen by you.
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  SPEAKER_01: I feel like if I said you embody human design, it doesn't even do you justice.
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  SPEAKER_01: I like you say then you have the passion for it, but it literally I see it as like live and breathe for you.
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  SPEAKER_01: But for anyone that doesn't know, then is it useful to touch on what human design is or at least what manifesting generators are like to understand us?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, that's cool.
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  SPEAKER_00: So human design is a tool which helps us to understand our energetic blueprint, so the energy that we are born with, the frequency that we are all born with, a very unique frequency, um, and that's unique to us.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's as unique to us as our fingerprint.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then we come into life, and lots of different things in our lives can distort that frequency within us, as in the way that we are brought up, the things that we believe in, the things that we get programmed by, um, culture, society, you know, lots of different ways can draw us away from being that natural energy within us, and even have us believe that parts of that natural energy, there's something wrong with it, or it's broken, or it's not right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when we understand what our unique energy is, it gives us a path back to living in that authentic truth and in our real natural state of being.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when we're in our natural state of being, then really, you know, that's a kind of a way of living that feels good because we're living as we're supposed to, and that's you know, my intention is to help people to find that for themselves, something that feels easeful and in flow, and that will be unique to you, and so yeah, that's that's a big part of what that is.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so manifesting generators within that are one of the energy types, and if you are a manifesting generator, then you're somebody who's multi-dimensional, like multi-passionate, multi-dimensional.
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  SPEAKER_00: You might be into lots of different things, have lots of different interests, kind of go towards one thing and then another thing, and then another thing, and then another thing, and then loop back around to that original thing, and that's all okay, it's exactly how you're meant to be.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's just a small little snippet of what it means um to be a manifesting generator and you know, to be in, you know, to learn about yourself through human design.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's just it the depth of of it is is huge, but obviously, yeah, that's what um I underpin a lot of my work in.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, and I love that, and I love how you read for me even before this talk, and you were telling me different parts in my chart.
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  SPEAKER_01: But I think why we uh really connect in the work that we do is uh I definitely know in the in the work I do as a psychotherapist, uh unpicking uh the societal expectations and conditioning not just society but in the family and the way that we've grown up and our experiences, and really just uh removing them and coming back to yourself, and something I massively believe in is we have the ability to self-actualise and come back to ourselves and find ourselves at our core.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think authenticity is uh magical to watch someone come back to themselves and be so comfortable in themselves is incredible and an honour to watch, and I think we both have that, and we're both so passionate and love that part of the job, even though we do it in different ways.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think that's something that we massively connected on straight away.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I love that because I think also it I because I know your chart as well, because I've looked at it many times now, many times, many times with you sometimes, not with you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Unsurprisingly, sometimes when you're there, sometimes when you're not, and she's going, why she responded to me in this way?
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  SPEAKER_01: It's because of this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but you know, you have this, and I've been in spaces with you that you've held as well, so I know this about you is that you have this beautiful quality within you that is true to you, it's authentic within you, which is a way of drawing people into a closeness and intimacy with what it is that they need in conversation to learn about and to in that authenticity to allow themselves to be authentic because you are that person, and therefore it allows people around you to be that person as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I see that in you, and I experience that in you, and that's why I know when I come into conversation with you that you draw that out in me, and that together we get down and kind of a little bit intimate with whatever it is that we're discussing, and in that space we create this kind of like way of reframing and looking at things in lots of different ways, and that's what I love about our conversations is we get drawn in almost to then go out with a more expansive view on something, and that's what you bring, in my view, to our conversations is that ability to take us into it so that we can go out again, and um, I love that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I absolutely love that um in the work that you do, and you intensify that in me as well, and encouraging me to be myself and my authentic self and lean into my design.
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  SPEAKER_01: And there's some parts that I'll question, and you give me that you know validation through human design of well, you're meant to do this, and this is you and natural, especially when sometimes I think I feel like I have to prove or give or kind of overwork.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's been a few times where you've said, No, no, it's meant to be this way, it's in your chart, so it's lovely to have a space and someone who brings that out in me as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now, reframe, like you said, the purpose of doing this.
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  SPEAKER_01: What can people expect?
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  SPEAKER_01: I guess to hear from us.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, well, I think it's very much what we've almost almost already been doing, which is kind of like a dive in without much warning sometimes, to a subject that may or may not be on the cards.
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  unknown: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that we will each bring a perspective.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mine will sometimes be, often maybe be human design, but you know, I'm also very interested in energetic alignment in general, but studying a master's in consciousness, spirituality, and transpersonal psychology, I know it's a mouthful.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have, you know, I hope that I bring a depth of kind of knowledge and understanding across the board on consciousness, really, and awareness of why we behave the way we do, and what we can, what we different perspectives of how we might look at something that's going on in the world, or that we're kind of we've experienced in ourselves and that may be helpful for other people to hear us just unpick and discuss.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the way I see this going, and I think that's purely based on the fact that that's the way our conversations go.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think as well what you've just said and having experienced our conversations, you have so much lived experience.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I mean that from a way of you've had experiences, but you have given them the awareness, and I know that you take from them as well to be the person that you are, and so in our conversations, all of the knowledge and education that you're doing comes into it, but also uh just your experience, I think, have been so beneficial for me.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I know that there's topics that we've talked about, or even personal topics that I've come to you with, and what I love is you can always give me that different perspective, and it's such a warm and welcomed way.
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  SPEAKER_01: We've never uh, you know, butted heads or come up or um had conflict of different opinions because we've never needed to, because we uh acknowledge that we have different opinions and a perspective sometimes, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: But we're really respectful in how we do that, and I think that's so useful.
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  SPEAKER_01: We need that safety to change our perspective sometimes, as opposed to someone coming at us in a you know, a very different way.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, and I think in the current, you know, in the world currently, that's really important that to learn to be able to go to look at somebody else's perspective and go, well, it's not necessarily the way I see it, but I can honour the fact that that person may have that perspective, even if it's not the same as mine, even if it's not something I truly believe.
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  SPEAKER_00: There might even be a little part of it that helps me to understand myself or that person a little bit more, and I think that's what's important now, and that's what's needed in the world more, isn't it?
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  SPEAKER_00: Of us all being able to go to listen and to to consider somebody else's kind of way of seeing things without just jumping to a conclusion that they don't agree with me and therefore they're wrong and I'm right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's that I think is really needed.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I you know, I I I value so much of what you bring as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I really see the qualities that you have of being able to, and this is an energetics thing, of just bring the best out in people, or to bring out something in people that they maybe just don't feel comfortable to do in any in other in other places, and you say, you know, that that that's that's just something I see in in you, and that's part of your absolute genius and part of who you're you're you've come here to be, without a doubt.
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  SPEAKER_01: And thank you, and that's because I have a two genius, is that the right number?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so we were just talking about this before, isn't it?
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  SPEAKER_00: So you two the two in you in your profile means that you are you have this real kind of um ability to make things look easy.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like a very easy, breezy kind of like energy.
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  SPEAKER_00: People will see your genius as something that is just so natural.
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  SPEAKER_00: So there's that naturalness, and I think that comes through in lots of elements in your chart, just this naturalness, authenticity, naturalness.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then just to call on that a little bit as well, when you talk about my I'm like, thank you for not saying that I'm old, but like my lived experience.
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  SPEAKER_00: My lived experience, my lived experience, but that is the six in my um in my profile, which is that I'm I'm in the six, as a six, I'm a role model, but I'm in the let last phase of that because sixes live in three stages.
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  SPEAKER_00: So as a three, and as a six, you start your life in the experimental stage, which is more like a three.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then you go into the middle stage of your life where you're trying to work out which bits are right and which bits aren't, and then as you hit a certain point around 50, you come into this role of wisdom that you've created all this wisdom through your life, and then people see you as a role model in that way.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's that energy that I think that you sense in me that I hope that I bring as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so yeah, so as a combination, we're just a magic package, I think.
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  SPEAKER_01: We are magic, and you confirm that when you look at our charts and you put them together.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you said the words last time we spoke.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, I can't remember what it was, something along the lines we don't complete each other, but we oh yeah, so our charts in overlap, we kind of we do become a completely defined, um, but but that's kind of like not in connection, but we are we have all the centres when we're together, but also but the thing that really um I love is is that we have the 1648 channel connected, like I have the 48, you have the 16, I think this is right, um, and that is the channel of depth, and that kind of like allows that the 48 is the channel of depth, and then the 16 is that kind of expression and the knowledge of that, and so you open up the channel for us to talk about the deep, or we together open up a channel which is about talking about the deep things, which is mad that that's why then that because that's exactly what we do when we're together is we talk about the deep things, so that in itself, I think, is you know, is what people can expect from us, isn't it?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we fit together very nicely.
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  SPEAKER_01: We we bring different things, but it it's always felt for me that it fits and it connects in the right way, and it's so nice to hear that.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: I agree, I agree, and I suppose that as an intro, that's you know what we want people to know about.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's where we're going with this.
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  SPEAKER_00: We want to go into the depths, we want to discuss the energetic discourse.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's uh sounds very northern then.
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  SPEAKER_00: We want to we want to discuss the energetics, the the you know, the the the deep wisdom of things.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, and that's what to expect, really.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_01: Fresh perspectives, difference of uh experiences, knowledge, education.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think that could be uh so useful.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think for a lot of people that I come across uh there's a big desire for depth, and it they don't often get it in their friendships and their connections with people.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so what I really hope is that people can just listen and know that uh there are people that you can meet in different ways, unexpected ways that fit as nicely as we do, or if not, just plug in and listen to a deep conversation of different perspectives to get uh you know their own mind going and their own perspective on some of the topics that we will talk about.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think that that's a really nice way to maybe kind of come round to uh completing on this first little snippet.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I just wonder if there's anything else that you think that you would like people to know about what it is that we're here to share before we finish.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think you just did a beautiful job there.
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  SPEAKER_01: But if there's anything else, um no, I think uh we've just got good intentions of conversation and and depth, and uh like I maybe joked before, we're just humans, we're also figuring it out ourselves, aren't we?
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  SPEAKER_01: And our perspectives on certain things might change from day to day, the way that we're feeling, what we learn, what we know.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so I think really just to honour the uh the humanity and the messy part of it, and figuring it out because uh I think the way things are going, we need to see that and we want to see that again.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's authentic, isn't it?
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  SPEAKER_01: It's natural, it's it's just us.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I'm very looking forward to it.
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  SPEAKER_01: How about yourself?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think on that I can just take that what we're gonna do is be humanly messy in a very natural and authentic way.
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  SPEAKER_01: Fantastic.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is this in the chart, which means that you can fabulously conclude what I'm not sure I'm saying?
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, only when you're around, because that's not normal for me.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_01: You've done that a few times, you've beautifully kind of concluded what I feel like I wasn't making sense to say.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, again, just a beautiful way to close how we work so well together.
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  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: Well, on that note, let's look forward to um seeing or speaking next time.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, see you then.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_00: Bye.